These Are The Voyages Season 2 released

So many books on this, do we need another one? I’ve read the Roddenbery book, the Shatner book, even the one about the casting (can’t remember by who, Joe D’Acosta?).

I wonder on how this will compare to “Star Trek: The Real Story” by Herb Solow and Bob Justman. That seemed to me to be most accurate one on the story.

Where is the kindle version?

kindle version is right in the store both seasons..i just bought the first e book for 9.99 downloading now cool thanks trekmovie.com

I gotta get these fast!

The autograph seems like a big deal, too.

Happy April 19th!

1. Eric;
I have read all the previous books, also, but this series goes into much further details than any before it, and includes the REAL ratings for each episode, of which we were lead to believe for so long was the reason for cancellation. Now the truth comes out.

10, charlie, “bundle”? Please telll us what a “bundle” is, and where it’s available, thanks.

I can’t say it much better than Vger23, bjdcharlie, and JB did. If you’re a fan of TOS, this book series is a must-have. It’s easily the best non-fiction Trek book since Justman and Solow’s “Inside Star Trek”. I highly recommend rewatching the series as you go – it gives you a fresh perspective on shows most of us have been watching for decades.

I know that these books are expensive, but I can’t recommend them enough. The most remarkable thing about them is that it took this long for someone to write them.

When he’s done with TOS, I hope he tackles the post-TOS era all the way through TMP. That era is a saga all it’s own.

DJT – the Kindle version isn’t out yet. I’m guessing it’ll surface within a month.

This book goes into greater detail than anything you have ever read before. Cushman talks about the initial version of the story for each episode, how that story changes and develops over time, and which staff writers added which bits to the script. He talks about which parts of the episode were filmed on which days and mentions bobbles or problems in the filming. He quotes extensively from memos to show the input of Bob Justman, Dorothy Fontana, Gene Coon, and Gene Roddenberry into the developing script and has conducted interviews with writers, guest stars, directors, and lots of people who’ve never been heard from before.

It’s clear that an ENORMOUS amount of love and work and research went into producing this volume, and it’s truly a wonderful resource for the TOS fan. Yet it also has some very obvious errors, and — strangely, for a book that wants to be a reference work — no index. And while much of the book is painstakingly well documented, there are places where Cushman asserts some important and potentially controversial things without giving any documentation at all.

The book is clearly a labor of love, and yet Cushman has omitted some obvious steps, making the book a strange mixture of the astonishingly well done and the slapdash. One wonders why Cushman didn’t get the book proofread by someone at even my level of Star Trek knowledge — I’d have proofread the book for free and would have caught several errors — and he really should have gotten the book proofread by someone at the level of our most knowledgeable fans.

I’m thrilled that the book exists, and I enjoyed it immensely, but with better proofreading and more careful documentation and citation, the book could have been truly authoritative, rather than the strange mixture of things that it is now.

Even with the occasional error and the lack of index, this book is a must for any TOS fan — far and away more comprehensive and more detailed than any other Star Trek book EVER.

The first edition of this series is absolutely a must-have for any TOS enthusiast. When I purchased it I thought that I knew all there was to know about TOS, but after reading it I realized I hardly knew anything. The depth of information is amazing.

I can’t wait for this to be available on Kindle!

“Learn why Leonard Nimoy almost didn’t return for Season Two.”

Because he liked being the centre of publicity and controversy? To find out just how much he and his character were revered?

#19. Keachick (Rose) – April 19, 2014

If you recall any of my postings with regards to Mr. Nimoy you know that I am very fond of him as an actor, director, and artist in general. And I am very glad he was a part of Trek too, but I can’t help snickering, leading into a guffaw, when people try to rehabilitate him into a shining standard bearer for Trek. He simply wasn’t. He waffled and was as unsure of it as any NBC or Paramount Phase II exec. While he truthfully points out he never demanded Spock’s death, what he did do was heavily lobby for it believing, at times, that Trek was too heavy a burden that was sinking his career. I give him credit for being wise enough to realize that it could be something more and reverse course. But neither do I believe that it was best for Trek to resurrect his character to accomplish that even though as a fan I was very glad to have Spock back. What he did was what was best for HIS career and as a Nimoy fan I am glad he did, but as a Trek fan not so much. In my opinion, he derailed a much better story approach to accomplish this and movie Trek storytelling has been paying the price ever since.

You guys have convinced me! I’m getting these!

In addition to the other comments about the treasure that this volume contains, I would add that the photos are unique and amazing additions. Clips from outtakes and other non-screen pictures add to the tantalizing feeling that one gets when they read and imagine what it was really like back then.

Having both the printed edition and the Kindle eBook puts Trek trivia accessible when needed!

I was only slightly exaggerating about the frequency of the Shat’s projects and/or publicity rounds: Here’s a very recent news story about his most up-to-date public involvement — and on an Easter weekend, no less!

http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/william-shatner-enjoys-livetweeting-tv-shows–here-is-why-20140418-zqw5d.html

Volume 1 was was amazing….after being a fan for most of my 52 years, ANYTHING new, regarding TOS was rare, but a treat to discover. The first volume delivered something new with every turn of the page! I’ve thoroughly enjoyed reading the behind the scenes info on an episode, then watching it. NOT ordering this book isn’t even an option.

21 Disinvited, I think they were talking about TOS, after Season 1 they were considering Lawrence Montaigne [Stonn] to replace Nimoy because Nimoy was making noises about leaving. I imagine that was because he may not have been getting the salary the putative star of the show, Shatner, was getting. While Nimoy was getting quite a bit more fan mail.

I do remember the kill-Spock! no-no-don’t-leave-Spock-dead! thing: Yeah, Nimoy was feeling pretty weighted down and unmarketable so was lobbying to end his life as Spock. Rumors began to circulate: “They’re killing Spock in the next movie!” AND BY GOD, THEY DID!

Well, let’s see, in 1983, Nimoy did a TV special about remembering Star Trek, &c., and in effect, lobbied for a return of Spock.

I attended a convention around that time [it was summer and hot as hell in St. Louis], and Nimoy and many of the cast were there. When Nimoy appeared, he said, “How many of you want Spock to come back from the dead?” Universal cheers.

So … we got the hash that was STIII. But he got to direct! And we got Robin Wood. Or whatever her name was, as Saavik. Shame.

15 – Corylea — I’m curious as to whether you’re talking about the Season One book or the Season Two book.

I posted an early positive review of Volume One on Amazon, expressing dismay at the number of typos in the first edition. To my surprise, I was invited by author Marc Cushman to help proofread Volume Two. I’m the Scott R. Brooks mentioned on pages iv and viii of Volume Two. I’m a big ol’ Trek fan from the ’70s and have a pretty good eye for catching grammar and spelling stuff. It is a curse that makes life on the internet a living hell. I’m kidding. But it did get me this swell proofreading gig on what I consider one of the most important works ever regarding ST-TOS. These books are similar to reading Stephen Whitfield’s “The Making of Star Trek,” only it covers Every Single Episode of TOS, plus Every Major Player in the show. It’s exhaustive.

I haven’t had a chance to read my comp copy of Volume Two yet (full disclosure: I was given a free copy of both Volume Two and the “expanded, revised” edition of Volume One for my proofreading efforts; that is the sum total of my compensation; I hope that doesn’t make me a sell-out :-) ), but I checked out a couple of chapters and compared them to my notes to Marc. All my suggested corrections/revisions were made. The only thing I noticed that wasn’t changed is that the photo of Kirk, Tyree, Nona and McCoy in the cave in “A Private Little War” (page 382) is still flopped (reversed).

All that to say that while I’m sure you’ll find a few niggling errors that escaped the eyes of the dedicated proofreaders and editors who worked on this latest volume, they shouldn’t be as persistent as they were in that original Season One volume. Marc is a good guy, and wants the books to be the best they can be. You can send any errors you find to him on his Facebook page, and he will do what he can to correct future editions. Don’t let a few spelling errors turn you off of the treasure trove contained there.

To me, these books (Season Three should be out later this year) mark a seminal moment in Trek history, up there with the announcement of ST-TMP, the announcement of ST-TNG, Star Trek Remastered, and the release of the LaLa Land Original Soundtrack boxed set (and any other major moments in Trek history you would add to that list). They’re essential and indispensable resources for fans of the original series. Marc has devoted a major chunk of his life to assembling these; they’re a real love letter to Trek and a great gift to those of us for whom Star Trek is more than just a cool TV show. You can read my review of Volume Two here:

http://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/0989238148/ref=acr_offerlistingpage_text?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

If that link presents a problem, it’s easy enough to go to Amazon, find “These Are the Voyages Season Two” and look at the reviews there.

Enjoy!

Scott B. out.

Seems like there is an overwhelmingly positive response to these books. Was on the fence about getting these but it it sounds like everyone is learning something new about TOS from these books.

To Hat Rick’s point on Shatner’s many projects, I really hope the creative team have him and Nimoy involved in some way in the new movie.
I recently saw an article where Whoopi Goldberg was asking JJ for part in the new movie. Of course we don’t know if he would take her up on that but I would think he should look to include Shatner for the 50th anniversary before her. That being said I would not be opposed to Guinan in the movie.

Someone earlier mentioned about having these books about the production of all the films as well. Sounds like a great idea.

#31. Marja – April 20, 2014

Oh, I’m talking about that too. I recently recalled his speech and Q & A at Equicon ’76 on the heels of his book “I AM NOT SPOCK”. He retcons some surprise about the reaction now, but he made it clear with his provisos, restrictions and his speech that he was there to shore up his SHERLOCK HOLMES’ box office – service to Trek was incidental. I also recall he wasn’t a big fan of cameras back then, either. Besides, I don’t think ever accurately attributed the problem fans had with the book. He assumed it was because people wrongly thought he didn’t want to play the role. It was because in his manner and demeanor it was clear he regarded the topic as an “irritation” not worthy of his time.

My point is he was just there at Trek. He never embraced the phenomenon as much as its creator or even his costar Shatner. He was darn fine at his job which was the character, Spock, but statements attributed to him such as “I think I know what makes a STAR TREK.” in trying to dismiss first fans concerns are silly at best and hubris in the worst.

This article from a German site that amass Nimoy articles catches the Nimoy timbre of the from the decade after cancellation which echoes his dance with it:

http://www.leonardnimoy.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=554:the-questions-i-am-tired-of-answering-

” Leonard Nimoy lifts his head as if he has just crunched down on a fishbone. His eyes flash and a controlled calm levels his voice. He has been asked one question too many about his image as Mr. Spock of Star Trek.

“I am not,” he says. “a man trapped behind the pointed ears! I lead a very creative life, am offered and accept a wide variety of jobs. I feel constantly stimulated and challenged; and I feel proud of what I’ve done … “
He does a Vulcan pinch to a piece of cracked crab, and a kind of uneasy truce settles over the lunch table.
Ask Leonard Nimoy anything, but move at your own risk on questions about his role as Mr. Spock, the green skinned, bat-eared Klingon-slugger from the planet Vulcan, and star of the phenomenally successful Star Trek series, now being turned into a major motion picture.
So touchy is he about the role that has won him three Emmy nominations, and dominated his acting career, that he pounded out a whole book titled, “I Am Not Spock.”
Admits Nimoy now: “Maybe I made a mistake, with the title. Most people interpret it as meaning I don’t want to be Spock, which is not what I had in mind.” – “The Questions I Am Tired of Answering” by By Colin Dangaard, 1978

It also hints that part of this fire may have to do with his choice to keep his original name as an actor.

Just give me a quality weekly f***ing series!!

@31. Yeah, I’d of left Spock dead, myself. But then, they didn’t ask me.

It’s been a long, long time since I’ve read any ‘behind the scenes’ book. Need to go get a copy of these…..

IDW Publishing just announced an upcoming 6 part story in their ongoing Star Trek series. Kirk and crew will encounter… Q.

Correction, I should have written: I’d love to know what Mr. Cushman thinks of all the work that’s gone into these episodes since the original DVDs were released.

Someone was asking earlier about the “bundled” book package. Not sure if I can post links on here but you can find the bundle that includes both books autographed for $50 here:
http://www.thesearethevoyagesbooks.com/bundles.html

This looks very interesting. I don’t have volume 1 either, so Amazon gets to make some money off me for both volumes. I read a lot on Kindle, but that’s for novels, not books I want to delve into, so it’s the hardcopies for me. I’ve just informed my older son what he’s getting me for my 60th birthday ;-)