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1. Red Dead Ryan - December 5, 2014

Oh, wow, so quiet in here…….

(tumbleweed rolls by, a few crickets chirp)

2. Matt Wright - December 5, 2014

Sorry for the total reset, I was trying to find a way to bring over the last 20 or so comments from the old one, but the plugin that everyone recommends doesn’t work with the newer versions of WordPress :-(

3. Phil - December 5, 2014

Oh, well…..

4. Harry Ballz - December 5, 2014

First Orci gets dumped and now all of our comments on Chat.

I smell conspiracy. :>)

5. marja - December 5, 2014

Are they on some thread somewhere in the archive, Matt? If not, oh well.

My God Harry! You mean … surely not …!

YOU are IANHerbert??!

NOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

6. AJ - December 5, 2014

Who cares?

“Star Trek” is in limbo again!

Happy 50th, everyone!

7. Harry Ballz - December 5, 2014

@5

marja, marja, marja………………I don’t like it when you call me names.

“Tickle your ass with a feather?”

WHAT DID YOU SAY??!!

“Um, I said, ‘it looks like we’re in for nasty weather.'”

8. CmdrR - December 6, 2014

“I smell conspiracy. :>)”

You’re just in time, Harry. I’m baking a fresh batch of conspiracy.

Wow, nice to see the place tidied up a bit, but you’ll never get all the stains out.

Back in the USSA, btw.

9. Aurore - December 6, 2014

…..So, what’s new???

:)

And, now, something “old”.

A gentleman obviously having fun while sharing what he knows about my beloved franchise…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CNddEz9dak

10. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 6, 2014

Wow. Double cool. Nice reset.

Now for some big Star Trek Continues news.
Dr.Who’s Colin Baker will be the guest star on Star Trek continues.
Geek o Meter is on overload.

11. CmdrR - December 6, 2014

https://www.facebook.com/chris.riker.58

For those who would like to look…

12. Marja - December 6, 2014

Mr. Ballz, I smell conspiracy. :>)

OH! You sell tumbleweeds!?

BTW y’all should see the cr*p IANHerbert is selling today on the Orci’s Out post.

When I read his posts, sometimes I think

“On the internet no one knows you’re a dog”

13. Phil - December 6, 2014

@12. I am. And considering he was on a very short leash for flaming/trolling, that’s he’s not holding back is a good indicator the site is on autopilot again.

14. Marja - December 6, 2014

I mean really, “The biggest star [Saldana] is a ‘Pregnoid'”? Yes, IANHerbert is just beggin’ for a dope slap. [Sigh] Perhaps a note to the moderator[s] is in order ….

15. Matt Wright - December 6, 2014

Crud, he’s still at it? I haven’t seen him post since this morning.
If he keeps it up I’ll likely just ban him since he was warned before. None of us have time to police stuff. Tony’s the only person who has the time, and as you all have seen he’s AWOL again…

16. Harry Ballz - December 6, 2014

Matt, we certainly appreciate your efforts in protecting the integrity of this site. Kudos!

17. Marja - December 7, 2014

Yes, where DOES Tony go, one wonders….

Thanks for steppin’ in, Matt. You guys rock.

18. CmdrR - December 7, 2014

15 — Matt — Which button do I hit to enter a fake rumor that Anthony is directing “ST3: The Farts Awaken, Hit the Snooze Button, Roll Over Until 2017″?

OK, other stuff. I guess more and more people have seen “Star Trek New Voyages: Phase II: Mind-Sifter.” Some thoughts (sifted, of course.):

That is a long title. Phew!

There is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay tooooooooooo muchchchchch echoooooo in the opening monolgue. Brian Gross is a little soft-spoken throughout, and his “Space, the final frontier…” gets lost in the reverb.

I liked that they kept the Big E’s skidding through space. On that point, the cgi modeling is excellent. Some of the ship movement is a little curvy for space. You don’t have air or water to bank off of, so to achieve the movement we saw would require constant attitude jets or something.

Mic-ing early on seems a little off.

Make-up is a real mess in places: Spock’s ears, Kor’s neck (like he man-tanned, but forgot to use a mirror.)

The musical cues, while faithful, feel a little stale at times.

And my last negative kvetch: the whole “Jim’s dead, let’s chew over how we feel and have a memorial” sequence is way too long. At 1:04 plus credits, there were places to cut this episode, and I would nominate that section, because it’s so similar to “The Tholian Web.”

Nuff bitchin’. There’s lots to like here. As I say, I wish Brian Gross would modulate his delivery, but in general his acting is equal to the task at hand. He looks good with his shirt off and blood dripping from every orifice. (Hmm, that didn’t quite come out right.) Gross can also deliver a snarky line. “I hate that guy!” — took me a second to connect the dots, but it’s a funny line. I look forward to seeing more of his interaction with Spock & McCoy.

Brandon Stacy is one of the best Spocks to date in fan fic. And there have been tons of Spocks. Jeff Bond’s McCoy is a real tribute to DeForest without getting lost in mimicry. Rivkah Raven Wood’s Doctor Hamlin adds a tremendous emotional gravity to the drama. My only nit (sorry, I’m cheating) is that I wish she had denied the final bit of business and just taken the hit. (That’s the best I can phrase it without being too spoiler-y).

It sounds like Drama 101, but I’ll point out that this production manages to… finally… nail blocking and shot direction. It’s a problem that has plagued virtually all fan fics. There’s nothing more distracting than watching actors try to figure out how to sit or stand on a tiny set or sometimes just to figure out what to do with their hips or hands while walking. Acting is a full-body action, and both actors and directors seem to have smoothed out that aspect of this production.

Also worth noting are the familiar names attached, including D.C. Fontana and David Gerrold. Oh, and of course there’s the William Shatner cameo. He finally does one!

I give “Mind-Sifter” a B+, only because some of the story elements feel revisited. Notwithstanding that, it is watchable and leaves a pleasant emotional aftertaste. I look forward to more!

19. Cygnus-X1 - December 7, 2014

Remember, when you tattle on someone, you’re really tattling on yourself for being a tattle-tale.

=(

20. CmdrR - December 7, 2014

19 – Cygnus, thank you. It’s been a long time since I felt as though I was in 5th Grade.
As I grew older… say 12 or so… I began to see the reality that police cannot be everywhere while selfish a-holes can. Therefore, we all have to work together to stop the jerks or we’ll all fall under their abuse.

21. Phil - December 7, 2014

Tattle, my ass. Lets turn this into some good old fashion on line gambling, and start gaming who the new sock puppets are. 3:1 on Franco….

22. Marja - December 7, 2014

Phil, I was wondering who you were referring to. Seems to me I saw Franco on the boards a couple of months ago and his spelling was that of an English-as-a-Second-Language speaker/writer. Suddenly, it seems to have improved vastly ….

And Spock’s Bangs has been popping [pupping?] in, but I can’t remember if this is one of the Infamous One’s identities or not. I thought it might be b/c one post ended,

FACT!!
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CmdrR, I saw Mind-Sifter too. As a longtime fanfic reader and writer, I was put strongly in mind of a hurt/comfort story, although from what I saw of Ms Maiweski’s comments, it may well have been out-and-out K/S. Don’t know for sure, and that’s pretty irrelevant to the production [thank goodness]. The abusive orderly goons may have been typical of the 1950s. I thought that went a little over the top though.

Things I loved: Cawley’s self-deprecating inclusion of a certain delusional figure [performed by Cawley?] and Kirk’s line, “I hate that guy!”

Rivkah Raven Wood’s Doctor Hamlin adds a tremendous emotional gravity to the drama. My only nit (sorry, I’m cheating) is that I wish she had denied the final bit of business and just taken the hit. Agreed, fully, especially re: her last scene. Did you notice the soft key-lighting on her face, just as was done in TOS? What a lovely lady, too, not a typical female actress stick figure.

Brandon Stacy! Holy shee, what a great Spock. His IMdb page shows quite some resemblance to a certain actor in NuTrek, whom I adore, so it was delightful to see Mr Stacy. I wish they had fitted his uniforms — and his ears! — properly. Spock deserves better! The pace of his speech is a little too deliberate, but I’m sure he’ll get that down. I really do hope he returns. He has the gravitas needed for Spock.

My main issue with the story is that Kirk’s character seems a bit pitiful throughout, lost in time. Very typical/appropriate in angsty fanfic stories, but not so much in filmed Trek — fanfilm or no — because Kirk is a man of action. He is TOO out of it, too passive — so unlike the Kirk I expect. His reaction to a certain signal was good, but there should have been more action on his part. It seems to me Kirk’s basic personality is not one of passivity, but urgency. This seemed to be mostly missing, except in the office scene.

There were also elements of Edith Keeler and a near-rehash of a fan favorite Third Season episode, also typical elements of written fanfic, right down to McCoy grabbing Spock’s command chair.

Again I agree with you, on Kor. His makeup could have been MUCH better. The actor even sounded like Colicos once or twice; too bad he didn’t manage it consistently.

Jeff Bond — did he play Christopher Pike in “In Harm’s Way”? — kept tryin’ to sound Southern, but it didn’t work any better than when President Obama tries droppin’ his “g’s”. His intensity served McCoy’s character well, though.

I thought Brian Gross did a great job — although I have finally grown to appreciate Cawley as Kirk, despite his black black hair! — and I agree on the reverb. I wonder if that was an unintentional effect of “surround sound”?

I will watch the episode again to see what I think, but I’ll tell ya — I’ll be looking forward to more of Mr Stacy as Spock, whooo-ee.

I think DC Fontana and David Gerrold add so much to the productions though … Phase II is standing out to me much better than it did when I first saw ST Continues. Now I think Phase II or New Voyages or whatev they’re gonna call it is ahead by a nose, or more.

I really enjoyed “World Enough and Time” — Takei and the actress playing Sulu’s otherworld daughter were just wonderful.
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OK I have to ask this. Does anyone else think the Spock in “Blood and Fire” looks like Kevin Nealon, late of SNL and “Weeds”? The story was great, but “Kevin Nealon” was a bit distracting. I thought satire might pop up at any moment …. Will give this one a re-watch though, because of the science fiction story. Finally we see how disgusting and scary those bloodworms are!

23. Cygnus-X1 - December 7, 2014

Here’s a neat bit of Trek-related news:

English tenor, Russell Watson, who performed the vocals on Diane Warren’s “Faith of the Heart,” for use as the theme song to Star Trek: Enterprise, here reprises his performance as a wake-up song for NASA’s New Horizons mission.

The probe, which has been traveling in hibernation toward Pluto since 2006, has just awakened for the final leg of its journey. It’s interesting to note that, here, Watson performs the song not in the raspy voice that he used for the Enterprise theme—wherein he was trying to mimic the voice of Rod Stewart, who originally performed the song for the soundtrack to the movie, Patch Adams—but, rather, in a clean tenor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_fKYA1Kyd50

24. Cygnus-X1 - December 7, 2014

And I think that Watson sounds better singing it clean. His raspy voice on Enterprise always bugged me a bit, and I’d never have guessed that the singer actually had a clear, powerful voice.

25. Marja - December 7, 2014

Cygnus, Agreed. The fakey Rod Stewart sound always discomfited me as well. Maybe they thought a clear voice didn’t sound macho enough for teen fanboys? Whatever.

I never knew the song was written for Patch Adams! — I’d always thought it was written for Enterprise.

I don’t exactly get the logic of singing to a space probe [or is he singing to the scientists monitoring the space probe?], but it still gave me some goosebumps. Now I may go back and watch some Enterprise eps.

26. Phil - December 8, 2014

There’d be outrage, outrage on the main threads…but if you still think Shatner and Nimoy, in ‘integral’ roles is such a hot idea, be prepared for the inevitable……

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/12/07/snl-vs-star-wars-the-force-awakens/

Funny stuff!

27. CmdrR - December 8, 2014

Marja– agree with you that Mind-Sifter is not a good intro to Kirk or to a new actor playing him. I pasted my review onto P2’s Facebook page. someone — I assume she is connected to the production — got super defensive when I said Brandon Gross is soft-spoken throughout. She said it was just this script. But Kirk should BOOM in the monologue as well as when he’s going man to man with Kor. It doesn’t happen. I’d say it’s an area to work on in a very good production. I also agree that I want Brandon Stacey as Spock until he lands a big 3-picture deal in Hollywood. But, please, make the points sit on top of his ears… and get the color to match. I read that they used LN-1 make-up, the exact same formulation as TOS. But cameras and digital transfers have changed, and Stacey looks like he dunked his face in a bowl of plomeek soup.
Again, don’t anyone mistake my snarks for hate. P2 is really cookin, and totally worth watching.

28. CmdrR - December 8, 2014

Brian Gross

My bad

29. CmdrR - December 8, 2014

Enjoy.

Or stuff it. (said lovingly)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrG4JnrN5GA

http://www.avclub.com/article/george-lucas-cant-be-bothered-watch-star-wars-forc-212721

30. Phil - December 8, 2014

^^ Funny that Lucas is pulling a Shatner here….

31. Cygnus-X1 - December 8, 2014

Marja, he’s singing to the whole mission team, not just the robot probe. :-)

32. Marja - December 8, 2014

Cmdr R, I read that they used LN-1 make-up, the exact same formulation as TOS. But cameras and digital transfers have changed, and Stacey looks like he dunked his face in a bowl of plomeek soup.

It isn’t too bad when he’s wearing the blue tunic, but when he switched to the gold one MY GOD HE LOOKED PEA-GREEN. And you are so right about the ears. Almost ruined those great Spock scenes for me.

Cygnus, Well thank god for that ;-)

33. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 8, 2014

Ok. Star Trek Continues next Episode will be titled.
Star Trek Nit Pickey. Staring . All of us. Lol.

34. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 8, 2014

All in all Star Trek Phase 2 Mind Sifter was a good show. Great story, secent cast. Let’s not get to Nit Pcky. Lol.

35. CmdrR - December 9, 2014

Emperor Mike…

Not to get too nit-picky here, but in Star Trek: New Voyages/Phase 2 Mind-Sifter, when Spock takes a mentally beaten Kirk in his arms, caresses him, then rips off both their clothes and reveals a tattoo on Kirk’s right buttock that reads “K/S forever” inside a heart… I was taken totally out of the drama because the heart encircling the slogan was red and not green, as is canon.

36. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 9, 2014

CmdrR That did not bother me so much as when the female lusted after Spock and she was trying to help Kirk.

37. CmdrR - December 9, 2014

Doctor Hamlin is a woman of great passion.

I agree with Marja that she’s good because she’s not the typical “Kirk Girl,” aka a decade too young for him and built like a brick nacelle. I also see from IMDb that Rivkah Raven Wood trained at the Juilliard School of Drama in NYC and has done a bunch of Trek fan-fic. I’d like to see her do more… maybe with a better hair style, make-up, and wardrobe… but keep the glamour lens.

38. CmdrR - December 9, 2014

http://uproxx.com/gammasquad/2014/12/avengers-carolling/

So much time on their hands…

39. Harry Ballz - December 9, 2014

Somebody remind me…..who is THX-1138?

He’s been posting here for a long time, but I forget his particulars…anybody know his background?

40. Phil - December 9, 2014

Strange. Just got back from a memorial service for a client, and friend. A bit younger then me, too….and suddenly, all that bickering on the Orci thread looks really, really petty. More so that I willingly participated in it.

It’s a f**king TV show. Go have a drink someplace interesting. Walk on the beach. Naked, preferably. Tell someone you love them…listen to some Springsteen…and Beethoven.

Cheers….

41. Harry Ballz - December 9, 2014

Yes, Phil, you are right about that. Relish each moment. Life is short.

42. CmdrR - December 10, 2014

Sorry to hear about your friend, Phil.
I fully endorse random nudity in this chat. It’s a moral imperative in this short life!

43. 'Beach - December 10, 2014

Nudity?

Again, Harry?

44. Silvereyes - December 10, 2014

Somebody mentions nudity and here comes ‘Beach, back after months of lurkdom… Welcome back mon ami!

… And yes Phil, sympathies for your friend. Puts things in perspective…

Harry, THX-1138 is the alter-ego of Mongo… Remember him/her/it?

I believe he owns an art gallery… Or could be a musician. Or is that CmdrR? Sorry..

45. 'Beach - December 10, 2014

S. E.

Damned skippy. I am all about some nekkidity!!

46. 'Beach - December 10, 2014

THX-1138 owns an art gallery of sorts in the Pacific Northwest. I also think he is into music. Yes Mongo is his alter-whatever.

47. CmdrR - December 10, 2014

If I owned an art gallery, it would all be about nuditity. You would have to be naked to come in.

48. CmdrR - December 10, 2014

In your face, Shatner!!
Christopher Lee’s other career:

http://www.ajc.com/news/entertainment/92-year-old-hobbit-actor-releases-heavy-metal-chri/njPtz/

49. Harry Ballz - December 10, 2014

@43+44

Yo, once more into the ‘Beach!

Hey, I’m going down to the gas station to pump Ethyl, I’m going down to the beach to feel Sandy, I’m going to celebrate Christmas so I can feel Mary.

Silvereyes and ‘Beach, thanks for the refresher!

50. Silvereyes - December 10, 2014

Speaking of… I have this Apple TV gizmo, which enables you to watch trillions of shows from billions of different chanels and therefore neglect your life and reality in general… and there’s a show on there called bying naked, where you have these nudists wanting to buy houses in a nudist community (no, not colony! very politically incorrect!)… And they just show up naked…

Then there’s the show naked and afraid… They’ll do anything for ratings… Hey, I watched!

51. crazydaystrom - December 10, 2014

49. Harry Ballz

“Hey, I’m going down to the gas station to pump Ethyl, I’m going down to the beach to feel Sandy, I’m going to celebrate Christmas so I can feel Mary.”

My friend was feeling Mary then he jumped for Joy! Later an ample lass caught his eye then he proceeded to Sally fourth.

ouch

52. 'Beach - December 10, 2014

Thoughts on the Terminator:Genisys trailer?

I thought it looked intriguing…

53. 'Beach - December 10, 2014

Damn. Forgot how to close the stooped italics thingy…

54. 'Beach - December 10, 2014

Test test test

55. Harry Ballz - December 10, 2014

@51

Ouch and then some!!!

56. Marja - December 10, 2014

35, CmdrR, eeeuuuw, you just reminded me why I never got into that h/c K/S thing … I think my favorite line ever was something about Kirk searching Spock’s eyes: “hazel pools looked into brown depths” … LOL about the heart canon :->

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40 Dear Phil, My sympathies on the loss of your friend. You are so right to focus on what’s important and forget some of the nonsense in life. I think we’d all do well to take your advice. Peace.

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Welcome back, ‘Beach. Didn’t you used to have another name appended to ‘Beach?

And speaking of other names, didn’t “Spock’s Bangs” used to have another name consisting of two initials …? Hmmmmm

Guys I’ll check ya later.

Here is some seen-before Trek holiday music to lighten our spirits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-zdMkOZTKs

57. CmdrR - December 10, 2014

Harry starred on Naked and Afraid.
He was naked. The audience was afraid.

buh-dump-dum!!

58. Harry Ballz - December 10, 2014

@57

Yes, and when I did that episode they billed me as Rock Hard.

59. 'Beach of the shortened online handle - December 10, 2014

56 @ Marja

Way back when we did this with stone knives and bear skins (or given the current topic, is that bare skins?) I started out as ‘Crazybeach’ (bonus points if you get that reference). Over time mostly from laziness it got shortened to just plain old ‘Beach.

60. AJ - December 10, 2014

Hey, ‘Beach! Welcome Back!

Silvereyes, once again, I am off to Aylmer, Quebec for a few days after the new year. No bagels this time, as I will be heading up from upstate NY.

However…

Everyone tells me I should stock up on good old NY State maple syrup and bring it to Canada because what they have up there is not pancake-worthy, and is generally packed in hard metal tins and looks/tastes like/may be used as – motor oil.

I will try some when I am there. I know the souvenir hawkers sell it in Ottawa, but I have never ventured to see if it is available in actual food-based retail (I don’t generally use the product).

Also, though I am not a cop, my local hosts are threatening me with a trip to Tim Hortons for something called “Timbits.” Any advice? TH is American-owned now, but that in no way makes me feel any better about it.

Harry?

61. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 10, 2014

Did someone say. Beach and Nudity. Ok. I’ll go.

62. Harry Ballz - December 10, 2014

AJ, when you go to Tim Hortons, you may want to order the Dark Roast coffee they just came out with. It’s a little stronger than their usual coffee.

Funny, I always thought Aylmer was in Ontario, not Quebec. Silvereyes?

63. Harry Ballz - December 10, 2014

@61

That’s brave of you, Emperor Mike, no fear in exposing your short-comings.

64. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 10, 2014

Well Harry. My Short-comings are bigger then most. Lol.

65. Silvereyes - December 11, 2014

AJ, why are you putting sand in my underwear man?

First of all, if you got your taste of our bagels from Aylmer, QC, no wonder you still think your NYC bagels are better. Need to come to Montreal (St-Viateur St. or Fairmount St.) for true Montreal bagels.

Now, as far as maple syrup. I believe the province of Quebec is responsible for 80% of the world’s production. So, I don’t know who “Everyone” is that are telling you you should stock up on NY maple syrup… Maybe the same that are stocking up on Finnish vodka.

Also, if you go to a restaurant, like a diner type, and order some crêpes or pankakes or some other maple syrup compatible dish, it’s likely they’ll bring some syrup on the table in a non-descript glass container. This is not true maple syryp. This is corn syrup. In Quebec we call this “sirop de poteau” which means syrup made from telephone poles… You need to ask for real maple syrup.

… of course, even that corn syrup sh*t is better than NY syrup…

As far as Timbits. Please stay away from this. Ontarians like Harry will swear by them, but here in Quebec we have more sophistication, call it European-like flair, and know real food. Tim Horton’s coffee, even the new dark roast, is touch and go as far as taste. With all the adverts they are doing telling us it’s nice and bold, half the time it just tastes like pond water. Anyway, nothing beats a good cup of Starbucks.

Have fun in Aylmer!

66. Silvereyes - December 11, 2014

Harry, Aylmer used to be in Ontario, until the Quebec militia took it over in the 1984 Québec-Ontario war. Don’t you remember those thousands of naked Quebec soldiers, painted in blue with white fleur de lys on their privates? We got Aylmer, you got Toronto. I think we won.

67. Randall Williams - December 11, 2014

Regarding the departure of Bob Orci from the Director’s chair and with
ST fans wanting Frakes to direct (who has since contacted Abrams as well as Paramount that he would love to do it), here is another long shot:

Perhaps Shatner or Nimoy want to direct the film? Now that is a long shot!

68. Harry Ballz - December 11, 2014

@66

Silvereyes, the “Quebec militia”??

What, four toothless drunks who got tired of chasing after their step-daughters?

69. Silvereyes - December 11, 2014

68 Harry

“What, four toothless drunks who got tired of chasing after their step-daughters?”

You forgot wife-beater-wearing, pot-bellied and five-o’clock-shadow adorned… And I believe the ladies in question were in fact their daughters, not step-daughters…

We Quebecquers come from prized stock.

70. Harry Ballz - December 11, 2014

Q: what has eight legs and a collective IQ of 83?

A: the Quebec Militia Parade!

Q: what’s long and hard on a Quebecker?

A. grade 3

71. Silvereyes - December 11, 2014

Yay, now I know how to spell Quebecker. Thank you Harry!

72. Silvereyes - December 11, 2014

By the way, where’s Aurore? Harry I think you scared her away…

73. AJ - December 11, 2014

Silveryes:

I am only having fun with you Canadians, but I see you and Harry are now at war, so, divide and conquer. Quebec and Ontario at war…I feel like the Great Eye of Sauron setting all the players in motion….

As a matter of fact, most Americans eat fake maple syrup as well; the stuff in the tins on both sides of the border is quite good, but, I am not a regular user. Promised someone here I’d bring back a bit of both (not fake stuff, but NYS and Quebecois versions).

As for Aylmer, when I look up the weather, two distinct Aylmers come up- one in Quebec (just outside Ottawa), and one in Southern Ontario (halfway between Detroit and Buffalo north of Lake Erie). You now know this, Silvereyes and Harry, so don’t forget. I will also remember to make a feint for the dark roast when they offer me those Timbits next month.

74. LizardGirl - December 11, 2014

Ugghh! Why, why bother on the main threads?! Yeah, Phil, you got it! Star Trek is a freaking show! And now I need a freaking drink.

~~~~~
I don’t really know what to make of Bob leaving. I’m saddened, I guess. The guy can be loco sometimes, but who’s normal anyways? I was really looking forward to seeing what he can do.

And then we have this flashy (and really awesome) Star Wars teaser, followed closely by the info that Bob will not be the director for Star Trek. :(

Seeing as STiD was in theaters last year and we still have nearly two years to go. I’m not sweating bullets just yet. Next summer is when I think we should start to panic if things seem to be falling apart.

I hope they market it like Disney markets Marvel the Avengers. If that does well then I will be a happy girl.

75. Silvereyes - December 11, 2014

73 AJ

If you mean the syrup tins I think you mean, then that’s actual, real maple syrup. And it’s quite good.

But no, not in a million years would I be at war with Harry! I have the greatest respect and admiration for that crazy Canuck (and for you too!). I just love to tease him… And I know he knows it’s just in fun.

Good luck with your Tim Horton’s experience. Cheers!

76. Harry Ballz - December 11, 2014

Sivereyes, I agree, we’re great buddies! I especially appreciate how we connected on LinkedIn. I’ll always have your back!

77. CmdrR - December 12, 2014

http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/full-episodes/0ilx73/december-11–2014—smaug

Hope the movie is as good…

78. Marja - December 12, 2014

74 LizardGirl, I left the director’s thread b/c TUP is being such a patronizing bully. Feck him. I thought every one of Phil’s responses were justified, as far as I read, that is. I stopped partway down b/c I like to be diplomatic for the most part and re: TUP, as Khan said, “he tasks me … he TASKS me.” Just want to take him down, patronizing mofo. GRRRrrr.

As to Frakes, ehhh, I’m not so sure, especially if the director has input on the script. Cygnus recently attached a Mr Plinkett review of ‘First Contact,’ which was [as with all Plinkett reviews] hilarious yet thoughtful. Check it out for some laffs.

See yinz later. Though not too MUCH of you, guys, unless you have the Hardbodies I yearn to look at ;-) …

Whew, it’s lucky we can’t post pics on here, I’d be a bit embarrassed to do so. No bikini lady, I. Now in my 20s …. THAT would’ve been do-able.

79. Silvereyes - December 12, 2014

Interesting!

http://www.cnet.com/news/rosetta-finds-comets-carry-more-star-trek-fuel-than-expected/

80. CmdrR - December 13, 2014

79 – Now we just need a perpetual source of velour.

81. Aurore - December 13, 2014

@ 58. Mr. Ballz – December 10, 2014

“…Yes, and when I did that episode they billed me as Rock Hard.”

________

“Rock Hard ” a.k.a. Scary Ballz.

The man. The legend.

“Scaring ” people away wearing nothing but a smile…since ( at least ) October 18, 2011.

…And, THIS is no conspiracy theory…

:)

:

(Post 1104) :

http://trekmovie.com/2011/10/07/orci-kurtzman-sell-political-conspiracy-western-pilots-abrams-adds-another-movie-project/

82. Grip_2_go - December 13, 2014

Interesting ideas for ST4.

Since it appears that ST3 has been and is already a script of some sort. How about some ideas for the further adventures of the re-invented crew of the enterprise?.
Idea 1:
How about a three feature arc about a civil war within the federation with the Enterprise as the rebels?.
Idea 2:
Someone figures out how to bypass the organian peace treaty with technology and potentially starts a Federation/Klingon war?.
Idea 3:
Captain Pike reaches out from Talos 4 on his death bed to let the federation know that the future of humanity is about to be altered by militant Talosian youth. He leaves a cryptic message, but it all must be dealt with in real time. As the penalty for entering Talosian space is the last known crime sufferable by the “Death” penalty officially within the federation, it falls on Kirk and the Enterprise to figure out how to stop the crimes of the young Talosians without breaking Federation law.
Idea 4:
Your turn.

I just wanted to show that there are plenty of good reasons to follow up original story lines, or even create brand new ones. Yes I’m a nerd, OK?.
So, for those of you who “Loved” the newest features and still have no idea what I’m referring to, I rest my case.

83. Grip_2_go - December 13, 2014

From Wikipedia:
James Tiberius Kirk was born on March 22, 2233, in Riverside, Iowa.[1] He was raised there by his parents, George and Winona Kirk.[2] Although born on Earth, Kirk for a time lived on Tarsus IV, where he was one of nine surviving witnesses to the massacre of 4,000 colonists by Kodos the Executioner. James Kirk’s brother George Samuel Kirk is first mentioned in “What Are Little Girls Made Of?” and introduced and killed in “Operation: Annihilate!”, leaving behind three children.[3]

At Starfleet Academy, Kirk became the only student to defeat the Kobayashi Maru test, garnering a commendation for original thinking by reprogramming the computer to make the “no-win scenario” winnable. Kirk was granted a field commission as an ensign and posted to advanced training aboard the USS Republic. He then was promoted to lieutenant junior grade and returned to Starfleet Academy as a student instructor.[3] Students could either “think or sink” in his class, and Kirk himself was “a stack of books with legs”.[4] Upon graduating in the top five percent, Kirk was promoted to lieutenant and served aboard the USS Farragut.[3] While assigned to the Farragut, Kirk commanded his first planetary survey and survived a deadly attack that killed a large portion of the Farragut ’​s crew,[3] including his commanding officer, Captain Garrovick. He received his first command, a spaceship roughly equivalent to a destroyer, while still quite …………etc. etc. etc.

My whole point is, what if JJ decided to just make crap up about Darth Vader using an altered time line as an excuse?.
How would that fly?.

Anakin stole a floating bike and joined the Empire and assumed control of the entire army in less than a day, deciding that he needed a helmet and a calculator on his chest so he could rule properly.
Those that opposed him got the Vulcan “Live Long and Prosper” sign and choked to death.
This is tantamount to the amount of research that went in to making the last two Treks. Honestly, I just don’t get the disjointed take of the first two films. I get why people (Non Trekkies) like them, they just disappoint me beyond all get out.

84. Grip_2_go - December 13, 2014

None of my posts here qualify as CHAT-worthy?

85. Grip_2_go - December 13, 2014

I guess they were. Thanks.

86. Grip_2_go - December 13, 2014

Now I guess they weren’t. But thanks anyways.

87. Harry Ballz - December 13, 2014

Hey, get a grip, Grip!

It’s late on a Saturday night, and some people are busy “shoving in their regards”!

88. Spockchick - December 14, 2014

@23. Cygnus-X1
Russel Watson is a lovely guy. He survived 2 brain tumours and as a result is pretty chilled.

Hey – someone cleaned up here!

89. CmdrR - December 14, 2014

Spockchick,
Yeah, the maid says she found three Hello Kitty pasties and a 5 gallon can of Crisco. Not really sure whose they are. I found my light sabre condoms, so I’m good.

90. Phil - December 15, 2014

N. Korea keeps on releasing more info from the Sony Studios hack. Considering that STID was shot in part on Sony property, it’ll be interesting to see what opinions get offered up about their POV of the Trek franchise…

91. CmdrR - December 15, 2014

Kim Jong Un says he should play Khan in ST3; wants Beyonce to take over as Uhura; engineering scenes now shot in a cheese factory.

92. Phil - December 15, 2014

The glorious and unified people of the Grand Peoples Starship Un-E-Prise are furious and inflamed that the imperialist pigs of the morally corrupt Klingon empire have insulted the impeccable integrity of the united earth North Korean peoples. We will rain fire on your planet with unending fury and show you no mercy and we will reduce your home world to a burned out cinder….

Hey, as long as it has a solid theme, it’s Oscar gold….

93. CmdrR - December 15, 2014

Oh, by the way…

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/zoe-saldana-becomes-mum-twins-145934845.html#z8lK2vv

Congrats, Lt. Mommy.

94. Spectre-7 - December 15, 2014

Star Trek computer gaming news:

The full version Star Trek Armada 3: A Call To Arms, has just been released. It’s a modification for the game Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/star-trek-armada-3

It’s fan-made but as a longtime pc gamer, I can tell you the devs provided an experience that is more Trek-like accurate than many actual Trek games of the past.

They aimed to recreate the Dominion War and if you’re a DS9 fan, you’ll see that your fleet looks almost exactly as they do is seasons 6-7

Have a look!

95. Spockchick - December 15, 2014

@CmdrR

DO the light-sabre condoms glow in the dark?

96. CmdrR - December 15, 2014

95 – Spockchick — Depends who I’m with. Care to test ‘em out?

“Another Force. And Tatoo’ne.
Same old Falcon… Hey, that’s no moon!
Another sequel, that’s just no equal
To makin’ Wookie”

97. Spockchick - December 16, 2014

@CmdrR

Are you sayin’ your lightsabre can be seen all the way over the pond?

Man, I’m impressed!

98. CmdrR - December 16, 2014

97 — Spockchick, I like to think of it as “hands” across the water… an elegant “weapon” for a more civilized age.

And mine is purple.

99. Red Dead Ryan - December 16, 2014

#98.

I’m surprised something so small could be seen from so far away! :-)

*runs and hides*

100. CmdrR - December 16, 2014

[Best Woody Allen voice] Like a French Bread! Small.”

101. CmdrR - December 17, 2014

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2014/12/17/stephen-collins-admits-sexual-abuse-terribly-wrong-katie-couric/20524835/

102. Marja - December 17, 2014

CmdrR, perhaps it is purple and small but its brilliance is considerable ….
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Ruh-roh, North Korea is threatening theatres showing Sony’s “The Interview” … the Dept of Homeland Security actually had to evaluate the threat [at taxpayer expense, not at Sony’s], for Spocksake, it’s JUST A MOVIE. I guess the Dear Leader can’t tell the diff between satire and documentary … although in his case the two are awfully close ….

103. Phil - December 17, 2014

Theaters are canceling showings of ‘The Interview’. Looks like the terrorists won, after all.

104. CmdrR - December 17, 2014

103 – As an only occassional Seth Rogan fan [40-Year-Old Virgin, This Is The End], and judging by the trailers for The Interview, I’d say the fans won.

105. CmdrR - December 17, 2014

I will say that the cancellation of The Interview’s release can only serve to encourage loose screws everywhere. Look for copycats. That’s extremely bad news.

106. Harry Ballz - December 17, 2014

When it comes to people bragging about how big their light-sabres are, some here seem pretty COCKSURE of themselves.

Just sayin’, not trying to be a dick about it.

107. Red Dead Ryan - December 17, 2014

Yeah, there was some lady on CNN defending the the choice to cancel the showings. Her rationale was that studios shouldn’t be making movies that make fun of assassinating dictators.

You know what the U.S government should do? They should hack into the North Korean computer systems and power grids and force the “Dear Leader” into watching clips of Erica Durance attempts at acting.

Oh, and then send them some sort of e-bomb that shuts off his electricity for a year or two.

108. Red Dead Ryan - December 17, 2014

#105.

It takes BALLZ to say something like that. Bravo! :-)

109. CmdrR - December 17, 2014

Well, Harry, at least some of us don’t burn ourselves on our lightsabres while going Han Solo.

110. Red Dead Ryan - December 17, 2014

Never rub another Jedi’s lightsabre!

111. Phil - December 17, 2014

I’ve got a bad feeling about this…

112. Red Dead Ryan - December 17, 2014

Most of us here have a pretty good handle on the proper use of lightsabres.

I think.

Those who need more hands on training, I refer you to the Jedi Master Bator.

113. CmdrR - December 17, 2014

Anyhoo…
There’s a nifty pic of vintage Shat on a hog on the daily pic for 12/17.

http://www.treksinscifi.com/trekdaily/

114. Harry Ballz - December 17, 2014

@108-112

If you guys have an appendage that resembles a light sabre, I would have to conclude that, growing up, you gentlemen, for pleasure, instead of tugging said appendage, must have rubbed your palms back and forth (with it between them), like a boy scout with a stick trying to light the kindling for a fire.

mmmmm, yes, that would explain a lot!

115. Red Dead Ryan - December 17, 2014

#114.

“If you guys have an appendage that resembles a light sabre, I would have to conclude that, growing up, you gentlemen, for pleasure, instead of tugging said appendage, must have rubbed your palms back and forth (with it between them), like a boy scout with a stick trying to light the kindling for a fire.”

I’ve never tried that myself, but rumors are that it when some guy did it decades ago, his testicles went aflame and inspired the song “Great Balls of Fire”!

116. Cygnus-X1 - December 17, 2014

Marja, I finally watched Star Trek New Voyages Mind Sifter.

I’m a little confused: What’s the relationship between Phase II and New Voyages? Thought that Phase II was simply the re-named New Voyages, but Mind Sifter having been just put out as a New Voyages episode suggests something else. They’re both produced by James Cawley, but obviously New Voyages has a different cast than Phase II. What’s the deal?

Anyway, Mind Sifter very slick and well put together. The scenes with Kirk and the Klingons are by far my favorite. The performances overall are all totally respectable. There are not moments where I was pulled out of the story by bad acting, though I didn’t particularly like Spock’s perpetual look of consternation. The actor playing him seemed to be playing him as very emotional—significantly different than how Nimoy played him.

The woman who played the nurse was very good. The guy who played Korr was very good. All the Klingons actually were very good.

Apart from Spock, my main complaint about this episode is the same complaint that I have about every Phase II episode: I think it’d make a better episode if it had been edited down to about 50 min, like a TOS episode. At 1 hour and 5 minutes, there was superfluous film that was a drag on the pacing and didn’t really convey any new information, particularly in all of the lamentations about Kirk being gone. There was nothing in those scenes that was so great that we needed it dragged out and reiterated as it was.

But, that aside, I would say the episode is a definite improvement over the last Phase II episode, Kitumba. Mind Sifter was tight, thoughtful, had good dialogue and I appreciated it addressing the issue of whatever happened with the Guardian of Forever.

Oh, one thing that confused me. When the Klingons first go to Gateway planet and see the Guardian, they remark that there are no controls to operate it. But, at the end of the episode, when they’re being attacked by Federation ships and have to flee, we see a large control panel in front of the Guardian. Can anybody explain this?

Matt, you guys should do an article about this episode whenever you get a chance.

117. Cygnus-X1 - December 17, 2014

Oh, and McCoy was also very good. Very believable.

118. CmdrR - December 18, 2014

Cygnus-X1 – There were a few plot holes in Mind-Sifter, although as I’ve said, it is a fine production and well worth the viewing by any Trekkie. I kinda wondered what they were doing for so long before the Federation fleet showed up? On Klingon says “This will require some study” or some such, and I assume that the big bulk device is a library computer that won’t burn out like Spock’s tricorder as it records Earth history. However, I wondered why they didn’t just start lobbying disruptor charges through the Guardian and try to blow up Earth’s great leaders. Maybe the Guardian has anti-douche technology. Anyway, they left it behind when they beamed out, so Kor is screwed… again!! HAHA!

119. CmdrR - December 18, 2014

One
bulky
lobbing
greatest

#$%ing Typonians! I thought we had vanquished them, but no….

120. CmdrR - December 18, 2014

Not sure why one post got s-canned

121. Harry Ballz - December 18, 2014

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL WHO CELEBRATE IT!

HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYBODY ELSE!

122. Red Dead Ryan - December 18, 2014

(SINGS)

“Deck the hallz with Harry Ballz…..Fa-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la!”

123. CmdrR - December 18, 2014

Cygnus X-1 — “Oh, one thing that confused me. When the Klingons first go to Gateway planet and see the Guardian, they remark that there are no controls to operate it. But, at the end of the episode, when they’re being attacked by Federation ships and have to flee, we see a large control panel in front of the Guardian. Can anybody explain this?”

I think it was a big tricorder that wouldn’t burn out the way Spock’s tricorder did. They were trying to map all of Earth history in detail to look for opportunities to put a big hurt on the Federation. Good that it got left behind.

Posted this answer earlier, but it got s-canned. Guess there’s a limit to how many typos I can make…

124. Phil - December 18, 2014

@121. What, pitching a script to another holiday themed slasher flick?

Santa Claws II – Slay Ballz
It’ll be one hellva a Christmas!

125. Disinvited - December 18, 2014

#120. Harry Ballz – December 18, 2014

“Slay Ballz” has a certain ring; are you listening?
In the lane, Snow is glistening.
She’s a beautiful site. We’re happy tonight.
Walken’s in a win-ta-wonderland.

126. AJ - December 18, 2014

Harry/120,

Christmas is NEXT Thursday, FYI.

Or, are you just in the spirit(s) early this year?

127. CmdrR - December 18, 2014

AJ, maybe Harry has had some kvas. I hope it’s not the other thing. Wouldn’t want to Putin the Ballz-man.

http://mashable.com/2014/12/18/putin-stroke-survivor-gaffe/

128. CmdrR - December 19, 2014

OK, a tear is in my eye at the departure of Stephen Colbert (for now). If you blinked, you missed the cameos from Patrick Stewart, JJ, Eggs Cumberbun, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, and more.

129. CmdrR - December 19, 2014

The real technology behind the Carol Marcus underoos scene:

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/weird-news/bionic-bra-automatically-adjust-breast-movement-de/njW9b/

130. Phil - December 19, 2014

Is there anything that technology can’t make better? Oh, wait, how do these bras keep North Korea from hacking in….

131. Phil - December 19, 2014

I think cheese 0rgy is on the banned list….

132. Emperor Mike of the Terren Empire - December 19, 2014

Hello every one. Big parties and celebrations abound in the Empire for the
Emperors birthday.

133. Emperor Mike of the Terren Empire - December 19, 2014

Hey everyone. Sorry I have not been able to be on much. A lot going on. Got moved into my new house and the Empress is now happy. Got going in my new job and my birthday is today and Christmas is next week and then. New Years. Lol. I kind of feel like our friend Harry when he sees his dream girl. I just hope that it’s not in the form of an Erica.lol.

134. 'Beach - December 19, 2014

Deck the Hallz with Ballz of Harry
Blah-blah-blah-blah, blah-blah-blah-blah

Ladies now should all be wary
Blah-blah-blah-blah, blah-blah-blah-blah

He’s offering up Bloody Mary’s
Blah-blah-blah-blah, blah-blah-blah-blah

That he’s spiked with Old Dominion
Blah-blah-blah-blah-blah, blah blah-blah-blah

Kinda strange in my opinion
Blah-blah-blah-blah blah-blah-blah-blah

Yeah. It’s stoopid. but it rhymes!

Apologies, Harry, Old Man!

135. Harry Ballz - December 19, 2014

@126

AJ, I’m just in a festive mood, early as it is.

@127

CmdrR, somebody should do a parody video of “Putin On The Blitz”!

@131

Nice, ‘Beach. Thankfully, I’ve never had to pull a “Cosby” on the ladies!

136. CmdrR - December 19, 2014

And in Trek non-news…

http://www.inentertainment.co.uk/20141219/star-trek-3-potential-director-flattered-but-declines/

137. CmdrR - December 19, 2014

More/the same speculation on the Orci beam-out:

http://badassdigest.com/2014/12/15/whats-going-on-with-star-trek-3/

138. CmdrR - December 19, 2014

OK, I’m call spoiler alert expiration for Interstellar.

I wanted to know whether Murph saved mankind or just got them to go live in orbitals. What happened to the plant phage? I may have mentally missed a line or two. Wiki says Murph/Cooper’s work allowed for a mass evacuation, but again — what happened to the plant-killer? Gotta eat something, even on a space station. And if they’re all hanging out near Saturn (close enough that they found Cooper on a routine patrol of 43509409843509840345983509283 cubic miles of space), why didn’t anyone go and get Anne Hathaway earlier? Was her acting THAT bad??

139. CmdrR - December 19, 2014

If this is # 134 then TPTB zapped 2 posts.

140. CmdrR - December 19, 2014

Nevermind

141. CmdrR - December 19, 2014

**sigh**

There
Gone
There
Gone

What Pyongyang Pinhead did I piss off?

142. CmdrR - December 19, 2014

And they are back.
I am so confuzzled.

143. CmdrR - December 19, 2014

If this is 138, my posts are gone again.

144. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 19, 2014

Hello everyone A lot has been going on with me. Well Today is my 46th Birthday. Lol This past week My Wife and I just moved into our new House and we pretty much got it all settled. Next week is Christmas and then new Years. A Busy Busy Month. Lol.

145. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 19, 2014

Erica wants to be slaped with Harry’s Ballz Fala la la la.
Ok. I guess that won’t work. He HE HE

146. Harry Ballz - December 19, 2014

Erica thinks I’m deep, CmdrR. I heard her say, “Ballz deep? Yes, I would agree with that position.”

147. AJ - December 19, 2014

Here, The Daily Telegraph tears “nerdism” a new one, using the latest Hobbit film to maul those of us who err on the side of actually liking to have consistent universes and canon behind our beloved fantasy worlds.

I haven’t seen Hobbit 3 yet, and it’s supposedly pretty awful, but this guy is just being a dick:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/11289765/The-Hobbit-How-the-clomping-foot-of-nerdism-destroyed-Tolkiens-dream-and-the-fantasy-genre.html

148. CmdrR - December 20, 2014

144 – Happy birthday, Emp!
46? I vaguely remember that age…

146 – ‘Erica thinks I’m deep, CmdrR. I heard her say, “Ballz deep? Yes, I would agree with that position.”’ — Sounds like you like the attention Erica is showing you, Harry. Should we be buying wedding gifts?

147 – Could get beyond the vitriol of the first few graphs. LOTR was the problem and Hobbit 1-35 is pure gold? Um… no.

149. CmdrR - December 20, 2014

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/12/20/how-star-wars-ruined-star-trek

OK, this is the second group that’s saying Orci’s arse-kicking was due to his inability to morph his script into GotG redux. That would totally not surprise me. Suit: ‘Hey, that thing over there made money. You make that money that that thing made over there over here, NOW!’

150. Harry Ballz - December 20, 2014

@148 CmdrR “Should we be buying wedding gifts?”

Here’s a thought, CmdrR………………%*$@#%$&*!!!!!!

151. CmdrR - December 20, 2014

Harry, will she be changing her name to Durrance-Ballz, or will you become known in Hollywood as Mr. Durrance?

152. Harry Ballz - December 20, 2014

What I should have said, CmdrR, is go &%$@ yourself and the DURANCE you rode in on!

(with all due love and affection, of course) :>)

153. Red Dead Ryan - December 20, 2014

Don’t worry Harry, this is all merely an EN-DURANCE test!

It’s kind of like when Worf celebrated the anniversary of his Age of Ascension in the holodeck by being repeatedly jolted with pain sticks!

154. CmdrR - December 20, 2014

Of course. In the spirit of the holidays and all.

155. CmdrR - December 20, 2014

Pain sticks or ugly sticks? I thought I saw John Tesh make a face at Ms. Durance’s ceremony.

156. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 20, 2014

I hear Harry Mudd Ballz has had a Hard time with the Durance Test. Lol.

157. Harry Ballz - December 20, 2014

@156 Emperor Mike

Yes, until I figured out the answer, Emperor Mike.

I got Durance to put a MUD pack on her face. It improved her looks for a few days………and then the mud fell off!

158. AJ - December 20, 2014

Is Durance even still working?

159. h - December 21, 2014

AJ, yes, she is, on a piece of dogshit program called Raising Hope.

If there is a God in heaven, it may have been cancelled by now.

160. PaulB - December 21, 2014

158/159 – Durance is not on Raising Hope, which was a fun sitcom about people actively trying to become better people.

Durance is on Saving Hope, which sounds like a dogturd.

161. CmdrR - December 21, 2014

“The Hobbit 3.” Went in with fairly low expectations, and came away pleasantly surprised.
It is not the bloated mess that 1 was or the misfired cgi nightmare of 2. I was never bored during this one, which is an odd compliment, but there it is. The tacked-on bits felt much more organic to the story than in the previous installments. Yes, the last 50-minutes is overblown gamer p@rn. AdmR kept asking who the crappy director was who kept bringing the bad guy back to die over and over again. Ha!
Still, I would eagerly send Tolkien fans to this one, where I would offer warnings about the other two. Together, The Hobbit is NOT a trilogy, it’s a trudge and it is NOT equal to LOTR by a long shot. But, Battle of Five Armies almost redeems the squishy first parts of this unexpected, unnecessarily trilogized saga.
Stray observations:
-Pretty sure Azok and South Park’s Satan shop at the same boutique for codpieces.
-Trolls is big, mean, ugly, and wicked stupid.
-Quick, unsay that before the nerds hear: in yet another effort to prove that this is a prequel, we hear tell of “Strider”… which would make him anywhere from 80-100 at the start of Fellowship of the Ring. Spry fellow.
-For a bowman, Bard rides a mean Foley filly (the full 4 coconut shells, I believe); and swings a mean axe.
-Battle Elk know how to “rack up” the head count. (Silly use of cgi in that one mass dispatch.)
-How to Succeed in Hollywood Without Really Trying Awards: Cumberbatch gets about 4 lines then folds like an origami swan. His voice is back as the necromancer for about a minute of film.
Not sure where Mikael Persbrandt was; did notice Bear Beorn, but Persbrandt gets a full pencil-drawn credit.
Andy Serkis does NOT get a credit, and Gollum is not in this film, but Serkis is listed as second unit director.
Benicio Del Toro gets a credit as a creative consultant.
…and finally…
-Don’t tell Neil DeGrasse Tyson: physics takes a major beating in this movie. But, you knew that already.
Again, not a movie that stands tall without LOTR, but well worth the time out from your holiday craziness.

162. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 21, 2014

I hear Durance is going to be on a new show.
It’s called. Losing Hope. It’s about a would be actress who wonders why she can’t Act. Lol.

163. Red Dead Ryan - December 21, 2014

No guys, it’s a medical drama called “No Hope”. Erica Durance stars as a patient (who preteneds to be a doctor) who’s acting abilities are brain dead but everyone insists on keeping her career on life support anyway.

:-D

164. CmdrR - December 21, 2014

Harry Ballz stars in “Hopeless,” the story of a Trekkie stuck in an emotional feedback loop involving a D-Lister 99.999999999% of TV viewers could not identify if you put her in front of them naked (Durance).

165. Harry Ballz - December 21, 2014

@160 PaulB

Thanks for the correction, Paul! I knew the word HOPE was in there somewhere, like I HOPE she’s off the air!

Hey, thanks for all the HOPE gags, guys! LMAO! Keep ‘em coming!

166. Red Dead Ryan - December 21, 2014

Harry is caught in a temporal causality loop where he turns on the tv and is forced to watch Erica Durance. He decides to shoot the tv and himself to end it all, but it starts over again. The horrible events repeat themselves no matter what Harry does to break the loop. An eternity of being forced to watch Erica Durance. LOL.

167. CmdrR - December 21, 2014

166 –
What of Ballzurus?
What of Ballzurus?

168. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 21, 2014

New T.V Show. Hopelss Erica. About a Woman who is hopelessly in love with a Man who has to bring her to Justice at any and all cost.
Harry Ballz. Agent of Shield.

169. AJ - December 21, 2014

Just to think, Harry got all pissed off when Durance upended his fantasy of the perfect Lois Lane back in season 38 of “Smallville.” That IS what this is about, isn’t it?

Oh…and this:

http://edforwonderwoman.tumblr.com/

170. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 21, 2014

Harry really wanted her as Wonder Woman.

171. Red Dead Ryan - December 21, 2014

Superman has Lex Luthor, Batman has the Joker, Kirk has Khan, Picard has the Borg, and the Yankees have the Red Sox.

Oh, and Harry Ballz has Erica Durance. :-)

172. Harry Ballz - December 21, 2014

When you mention Erica Durance with Wonder Woman in the same sentence, you’re missing a few words. The full sentence reads…….

“Hey, anybody ever wonder if Erica Durance is a real woman?”

173. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 21, 2014

Erica Durance is Harry’s Kryptonite.

174. Harry Ballz - December 21, 2014

Emperor Mike, as I’ve stated many times before, I just HATE seeing people with NO talent land roles they clearly don’t deserve.

I guess, sometimes, it’s an unjust universe.

175. Cygnus-X1 - December 22, 2014

123. CmdrR – December 18, 2014

I think it was a big tricorder that wouldn’t burn out the way Spock’s tricorder did. They were trying to map all of Earth history in detail to look for opportunities to put a big hurt on the Federation.

Ah, thanks. That would make sense.

What plot holes did you see in Mind Sifter?

Good point about Interstellar. I guess the implication is that since it’s “the future,” and they’ve got the high tech to be living on a space station, then they must also have the high tech to deal with their basic needs like food.

176. Silvereyes - December 22, 2014

174 Harry

Then you must despise 98% of Hollywood… Durance is just one amongst hundreds of untalented idiots who are going on their looks to compensate for their lack of talent.

177. Harry Ballz - December 22, 2014

176

Silvereyes, that’s a fair point, but it’s also where this really gets silly.

When it comes to looks, Durance didn’t deserve to be cast in Smallville. Go to any beach in California, throw a stick, and you’d hit any number of women who are FAR better looking than her.

178. 'Beach - December 22, 2014

Casting agents don’t give two steaming piles for talent. Screw talent. If the script calls for five-nine, red hair, boobs out to here, then that’s what they cast. Ability to act is a distant secondary.

In the end, it’s all about the money anyway. It’s all about box office. Roles get cast because of the audience that particular actor can bring in.

For sake of argument, some no-talent celebrity (say The Beibs) is cast as a vilain (Yes, i know how cosmically ludicrous that is. Stop laughing). He sure as haell ain’t cast for his acting ability. He’s cast because (aside from staggering stupidity on teh part of the producers) because he can bring hordes of screaming fan-girls and put their pretty little bottoms in theater seats.

Is this an example of monumental miscasting? Of course it is.

But it’s all about the money.

179. CmdrR - December 22, 2014

Out to where exactly? And what movie is that??

180. CmdrR - December 22, 2014

Yea, I know… this is a huge stretch in order to connect him to Trek, but what the heck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa9Odwb9Rdw

RIP Joe Cocker.

181. Phil - December 22, 2014

Well, if Kim shuts off the internet tomorrow…the Post Office will save the day!

Merry Christmas.

182. Phil - December 22, 2014

Looks like we have a winner in the directors derby….

183. Harry Ballz - December 22, 2014

Winner? Justin Lin??

WHAT A TOTAL F&CK UP!

I’M SO FED UP WITH THIS FRANCHISE I CAN’T EVEN SEE STRAIGHT!

Leave it to Paramount and Bad Robot, they f*ck it up every single time!

184. Red Dead Ryan - December 22, 2014

Justin Lin is a pretty good action movie director. The past few “Fast & Furious” movies have been pretty fun and exciting. Great characters, mind-blowing action and heart-stopping chase scenes.

Basically, he’ll maintain the pace, the style, and the excitement of the first two Bad Robot movies.

And it’s perfectly fine by me!

185. Cygnus-X1 - December 22, 2014

For you, Harry.

To final straws: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFHZoYxqtPg

186. Cygnus-X1 - December 22, 2014

And this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-_I_KOSEJs

187. Harry Ballz - December 22, 2014

Thanks, Cygnus-X1!

The Stern cartoon truly depicts how I feel right about now.

188. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 23, 2014

Well. When it comes to Star Trek Fast and Furous. Lol.
I will have low Expectation’s for the new Trek Movie.

189. 'Beach - December 23, 2014

Well, all that being said about Lin, i can honestly say i can go into his Trek movie with an open mind, becasue i have never seen any of the FF Franchise. It point blank does not interest me in the slightest.

I do think it’s unfair to judge what he may do with Star Trek against what he has done with fast & Furious is unfair to him, and to the franchise.

My two quatloos. Take from it what you will.

Everyone have a very merry and a very happy, and a hopefully prosperous…

190. Harry Ballz - December 23, 2014

Are we close enough now to the big day? Good!

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

191. Craiger - December 23, 2014

Emperor Mike, Jordana Brewster ST: 3 as Yeoman Rand. Or maybe Durance as Yeoman Rand? :)

192. Phil - December 23, 2014

Close enough, Harry. Merry Christmas!

193. Harry Ballz - December 23, 2014

@191 “Durance as Yeoman Rand?”

How about Durance as a Horta? You wouldn’t have to spend a dime on make-up!

194. CmdrR - December 23, 2014

**best Brooklyn accent** “Ballz, burned to a crisp!”

Yes, I would love to see some lovely actress don the pineapple wig. Not really sure who, but Emily Blunt can do no wrong.

As for Admr Lin, I was quite impressed by “Better Luck Tomorrow,” because of its concentration on complex characters and relationships. I have not seen a single Fast or Furious frame. However… we knew damned well that Paramount would only pony up big bucks for an actioner, so let’s just hope it’s an actioner with an ounce of brains attached.

195. AJ - December 23, 2014

Ugh. I’m in Russia over Xmas, which is known here this year as “Thursday.”

As you obviously all know, Russians celebrate Christmas using the Orthodox Christian calendar, so the day is actually January 7th. I’ll be stateside in one week for 13 days.

Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to everyone!

196. CmdrR - December 23, 2014

AJ, you will have to celebrate with Saints Smyrnoff and Stoli.

197. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 23, 2014

From the Empire.
I want to wish everyone a nice Christmas and may you all get Agonised. Er Get an Agoniser.

198. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 23, 2014

I want to wish all my friends here a very Warm and a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy and safe New Year.

199. Harry Ballz - December 23, 2014

I just watched Mind Sifter.

For an amateur production, it was pretty darn good. Hearing the Alexander Courage music, and the way they lit some of the shots, made me realize how lucky we were to catch “lightning in a bottle” with TOS back in the 1960’s.

200. Cygnus-X1 - December 24, 2014

199. Harry Ballz – December 23, 2014

I thought it was pretty darn good, too.

My usual complaint about the pacing and superfluous film in the Phase II episodes. But, that aside, it was a tight, well executed episode with some nice writing and performances.

Someone said that they saw plot holes, but I didn’t notice any.

I’m still confused about the relationship between New Voyages and Phase II, though they appear to be produced by the same people. Is it just two different casts, but everything else is the same?

201. CmdrR - December 24, 2014

Lock phasers on the hearth and set to “Yule.” Fire!

Have a wonderful Christmas Eve, a Trekkie Christmas, and a snarky New Year!

Roddenberry Trek Us, Everyone!

202. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 24, 2014

#200. It is the same people. They just wanted to get to the Orignal Phase 2 before they went on the TMP time frame.

Harry. I saw Mindsifter 3 times and I just love the Story. The Acting was pretty good. Especially the new Kirk. James Cawley has done a remarkable job.

203. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 24, 2014

May everyone have an Agonising. Er Merry Christmas.

204. Aurore - December 24, 2014

@ Everyone.

Happy Holidays!

(Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it!)

205. Matt Wright - December 24, 2014

Just saw this and wanted to jump in on it:

138. CmdrR – December 19, 2014
OK, I’m call spoiler alert expiration for Interstellar.

I wanted to know whether Murph saved mankind or just got them to go live in orbitals. What happened to the plant phage? I may have mentally missed a line or two. Wiki says Murph/Cooper’s work allowed for a mass evacuation, but again — what happened to the plant-killer? Gotta eat something, even on a space station.

Remember that’s an effect of the Earth’s environmental collapse. It’s not something that would necessarily follow you to a totally artificial world, as I recall they had good biological samples preserved in the NASA bunker.

And if they’re all hanging out near Saturn (close enough that they found Cooper on a routine patrol of 43509409843509840345983509283 cubic miles of space), why didn’t anyone go and get Anne Hathaway earlier? Was her acting THAT bad??

They’re in O’ Neil cylinders, positioned near Saturn. It wasn’t a routine patrol. You could call it a routine orbit…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Neill_cylinder

Anyway more importantly, you’re forgetting the time dilation. For Hathaway’s character she had just gotten there. They were just starting to plan a rescue for her in what appears to be the future relative to our heroes, but objectively these two events are fairly close together.

206. CmdrR - December 24, 2014

Matt —

Thanks for responding. I know a lot of people have questions about Interstellar. I’m not blasting it, it’s just that it’s the kind of movie that doesn’t spoon feed me.

I can follow you (not the film) on the positioning of the O’Neill cylinders and the time dialation. So, I guess they like Anne Hathaway’s acting better than I do. I got that Murph’s dotting of the i’s on the anti-grav/heavy lifting project would create cheap/large space habitats. Of course, there are manifold logistical problems beyond building great big centrifuges.

I’m not 100% sure about the health of the plants, since the film doesn’t really talk about the source of the plague. It does imply that it’s a result of overpopulation. I don’t know that humans couldn’t bring the pathogen with them, since it looked as though they still use soil to grow crops, as opposed to employing hydroponics. I would have liked a little more in that area; maybe a montage. Ridley Scott is so good at throwing out tantalizing bits. I would also have liked to see more about how science triumphs over human stupidity (i.e. Moon Landing deniers teaching public schools.)

That said, I absolutely love that we got a thinking sci-fi film with enough action/movie stars/kissy romance in it to put butts in seats. Now, that wasn’t so hard, was it… Paramount??

207. Stephen Walker - December 24, 2014

Just in:
The Navy’s USS Ranger aircraft carrier, which stood in for the Enterprise in ST IV, is set to be scrapped and dismantled after preservation groups failed to raise funding. Ranger was one of the first four Super Carriers, decommed in 1993.

208. Silvereyes - December 24, 2014

NOW it’s not too early Harry…

Merry Xmas to all, or Happy Holidays…

I’m sitting in front of a fire, eating Xmas pudding with custard and tea, with my beautiful wife… In merry old London UK… Who needs a white Xmas!

209. Disinvited - December 24, 2014

#208. Silvereyes – December 24, 2014

Indeed, a Wife Christmas trumps it every time.

Merry Christmas to all. Happy Holidays if you are having them. If not, find something to smile about no matter how insignificant it may seem. Peace on earth. Goodwill to all.

210. VERG - December 24, 2014

So Mind sifter came out December 1st. And there hasn’t been one peep about it on trekmovie. This makes me sad. It’s the BEST episode to come out of Star Trek Phase II (Now back to New Voyages) yet. If you haven’t seen it yet you should. Please post something about Mind Sifter on trekmovie. Make sad emote :( Happy again.

http://youtu.be/zFjikVnvypg?list=FL-ohEJF6iiTIH6HVfXIA1Uw

211. Red Dead Ryan - December 25, 2014

Been watching the old Star Trek movies. Most of them sure don’t hold up too well.

Right now, I’m trying to watch the piece of crap movie that is “The Final Frontier”. Shatner should not have been allowed to direct that movie.

And earlier I watched “The Voyage Home”. Cheesy and dated as heck. The music was awful. The only soundtrack out of all the movies that I could say that. Even “Nemesis”, “Insurrection” and “The Final Frontier” had great scores, even though they aren’t good movies.

The best of the “Original Six” are “The Wrath Of Khan”, and “The Search For Spock”.

“The Motion Picture” has great visuals and beautiful music, but moves at a snail’s pace.

212. CmdrR - December 25, 2014

Well, somehow Horta Claus has done it again — circling the Earth in an AMT model of a shuttle on Christmas Eve, delivering gifts to all the good little girls and boys. Too bad he had to jettison the sack with Harry’s gifts and ignite them. But, wow did that Saurian Brandy burn well! Even R’doff the Red Nosed Klingon was impressed. Here’s to hoping everyone got a special gift this Christmas! As for me, Helen is waiting under the mistletoe. Noel, Noel!!

213. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 25, 2014

Merry Chriastmas to all.
I hope everyone enjoys their Personal Agoniser’s.

214. CmdrR - December 25, 2014

A merry face palm?
Make it so!!!

http://uproxx.com/videos/2014/12/sunny-ozell-made-her-husband-patrick-stewart-wear-this-wonderful-christmas-hat/

215. Red Dead Ryan - December 25, 2014

Can’t wait for this….based on the documentary “Man On Wire”. “The Walk”. Starring Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Philippe Pettite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFXsDEB9iS0

216. Disinvited - December 25, 2014

#211. Red Dead Ryan – December 25, 2014

It isn’t so bad as it is just misplaced alongside the likes of Goldsmith. I think the bells and tubas were supposed to somehow lend it a nautical air but it always sounds like Christmas to me – which reminds me:I usually give it a spin this time of year as it serves as my “unofficial” Trek Christmas album.

217. Disinvited - December 25, 2014

# 213. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire – December 25, 2014

” I hope everyone enjoys their Personal Agoniser’s.” — Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire

That sounds like you’ve given them the Lee Merriweather upgrade? In which case I’m switching my box’s name tag with D’Amoto’s as I’m sure he’ll appreciate the lack of complete cellular disruption on the morrow’s morn.

218. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 25, 2014

Watching Star Trek First Contact. Troi is Drunk and passes out. Now who here has never passed out with Troi. Lol.

219. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 25, 2014

#217. LOl.

I am watching The Cage. Thought I wouldd go back to the beginning of Trek

220. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 25, 2014

Flash to Bridge!. Durance was reported to be lurking around.

221. Harry Ballz - December 25, 2014

@219

“lurking”? To lurk implies the person has stealth or guile. Someone limber of limb, who can slide past you and hide in the shadows.

The lumbering bloated shape of the Durance has none of these traits.

Now if you had said, “Durance was reported LUMBERING around”, you might have something.

222. Spockchick - December 26, 2014

@Harry

I never thought I would wade in re Durance, BUT. There are only two Lois Lanes; the very beautiful Margot Kidder, who had a peaceful, serene look to her, and Teri Hatcher, who was feisty and funny and also beautiful. Both of them have amazing eyes, expressive, deep and dark. When I saw Lois on ‘Smallville’, I was all;

What. The. Actual. Fck.

Tragically miscast.

Anyhoo, happy holidays to all the lovely chatters.

Lots of love

Peggy x

223. Cygnus-X1 - December 26, 2014

205. Matt Wright – December 24, 2014

Makes sense.

224. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 26, 2014

Harry. LMAO. That was funny.

225. Craiger - December 26, 2014

Harry and Mike,

http://s366.photobucket.com/user/KristinKat/media/Funnies/Celebration%20pics/Erica-Durance-12.jpg.html?t=1230133032

226. Red Dead Ryan - December 26, 2014

I had this weird dream once where the Enterprise was approaching Space Dock. The big doors on Space Dock were open, and underneath it was labelled “Enterprise”. As in this is where the ship was supposed to dock. The Enterprise was supposed to go in, but didn’t, as the ship somehow didn’t slow down, missed the entrance, and slammed into the side of the space station and exploded.

Turns out Erica Durance was at the helm. :-D

227. CmdrR - December 26, 2014

226 — That’s a malicious lie, RDR!
Everyone knows Erica Durance flies starships as well as she acts… which conclusively proves she could NOT hit the broad side of a space barn!

228. Matt Wright - December 26, 2014

@ 206 CmdrR —

Yeah the movie is far from perfect when it comes to science (obviously). Even with it being heavily influenced by physicist Kip Thorne, there is quite a bit of dramatic license taken. The film is definitely criticized for the questionable biological science used in the film (i.e. the crops).

P.S. You said Ridley Scott in your post, but I assume you mean Christopher Nolan (the director/co-writer the movie)?

229. CmdrR - December 26, 2014

228 – Brain fart. Yes, Nolan of course. (Was thinking of the shortcomings of the somewhat-brilliant Prometheus.) It does seem as though the studios and/or directors want to hit emotional points and are willing to bend science to get there. (e.g. Red Matter + Star = Nova/Time Portal… Father/Daughter bond = 5th Dimension People taking Cooper Up, Up, and Away… Daddy issues = going to space to confront one’s Creator –Prometeus & Contact.)

230. Harry Ballz - December 26, 2014

@222

Thanks, Spockchick! I appreciate your opinion.

@224

Thanks, Emperor Mike!

@225

My eyes!! The pain! Craiger, you’ll be getting a letter from my lawyer!

p.s. they obviously had to use a wide-angle lens for that photo!

@226

Good one, RDR! (Beavis&Butthead chuckle) HEH, HEH, HEH!

@227 True, CmdrR!

231. Red Dead Ryan - December 26, 2014

There is also an alternate version of “Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope” in which Luke Skywalker doesn’t exist, and Erica Durance is the Jedi-in-training.

During the Death Star/X-Wing battle scene, Erica Durance has the chance to fire a torpedo down the Death Star vent to end the battle. Obi Wan Kenobi’s ghost is giving her the instructions, but, due to her blatant hubris and egotism, his words fall on deaf ears as she steers her X-Wing wildly into the Death Star canyon, doing barrel rolls and other hot dog manuevers. Han Solo clears the way for her as the Millenium Falcon sweeps in and destroys two of the three TIE fighters. Durance’s showboating antics distracts Han Solo, and ultimately allows Darth Vader to destroy the Millenium Falcon.

Durance has the chance to fire the torpedo into the vent, but is once again distracted from doing so because she spilled hot coffee all over the console. It short-circuits the targetting systems. Kenobi tells her to “trust her feelings” and she subsequently pops open the cockpit window and tries to lob a homemade grenade into the vent, but she accidentally bounces the grenade off the rear of her spacecraft and into space, where it hits another X-Wing fighter, seriously damaging it.

The Death Star laser is eventually activated, completely obliterating the Rebel fleet, and dealing a fatal blow to the Alliance.

Erica Durance is the sole survivor. She’s living her life in shame on Mustafar, where Obi Wan Kenobi is giving her hell for f@cking it all up big time.

And in that universe, a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, the flame of the Rebel Alliance was snuffed out in a brief moment of epic incompetence and idiocy.

232. Harry Ballz - December 26, 2014

RDR, nice story, but you went too far……as soon as you got to the part about the Durance popping open the cockpit window, she gets sucked out into space and drifts into the Death Star vent, her bloated corpse effectively blocking the opening, thus preventing any torpedo from entering the vent.

The Rebel Alliance is defeated, chalking up their failure to what will be soon called The Elephant Debacle, or, in layman’s terms, ….The Fatso F*ck-up!

233. Cygnus-X1 - December 26, 2014

228. Matt Wright – December 26, 2014

I think the most interesting license taken with the science is regarding time as tantamount to a spatial dimension. Einstein introduced that idea with General Relativity as a convenience, but there’s no consensus on whether it’s actually that way in reality. Some say time is an illusion. Some say that it’s a different kind of dimension than the spatial dimensions. Nolan obviously takes Einstein literally and posits that temporal dimensions are no different than spatial dimensions. But, if you try to work through that concept in your mind, it’s pretty hard to conceptualize in practical, functional details.

It’s easier to do the reverse, and conceptualize spatial dimensions as being tantamount to temporal dimensions for lower-dimensional realms. For example, if you imagine the 2-D space of the surface of a table with a hole in it (an extra-dimensional portal), and then imagine a 3-D apple falling downward through the hole in the table, from the point of view of a 2-D person on the surface of the table, the apple passing through it would be constantly changing shape, with the 2-D person only seeing the apple’s cross-section at any point in time. This would make it seem like the apple was more of an “event.” If you asked the 2-D person, “What does the apple look like?” He’d respond that it looks like something that oscillates between different sized circles (assuming Mr. 2-D could see all the way around the apple), rather than like an object with fixed spatial dimensions. So, the third dimension of the apple now resembles a temporal dimension. Is the reverse just as true? In Interstellar, it is. Is it so in reality? That’s a good question, and one example of the movie giving us something to think about. That’s good sci-fi.

234. Red Dead Ryan - December 26, 2014

#232.

Harry, she had a lot of “dumb luck” go her way. She not only wore a seatbelt, but the force gave her the ability to briefly withstand the loss of oxygen. Kind of like how Anakin (before he had his remaining limbs chopped off) and Obi Wan were able to survive the conditions on Mustafar due their Force abilities.

She was a Jedi-in-training, and turned out to be a big curse on the remaining Jedi Knights, who would end up ceasing to exist not long after.

Erica Durance was the curse put upon the Jedi by the Force. Yoda had failed to anticipate the bad karma that resulted from encouraging Obi Wan Kenobi to train her.

And a few years after, Durance accidentally falls into a volcano on Mustafar, destabilizing the planet to the point where it explodes.

235. Red Dead Ryan - December 26, 2014

Anyway, back in the real universe, Erica Durance should have played a piece of kryptonite on “Smallville”. She managed to kill Tom Welling’s career.

236. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 26, 2014

Ericka Durance was the Role model for The Shadows on Babylon 5. When you look at her she is so Hidios that your eyes roll through her. When she Speaks it is like hearing a scream. She is very powerful though. As she destroys other’s with ease. Worse yet. Just one Durance is like a Fleet of Shadow Vesels. Only one person could stop her. Captian Harry Ballz.

That my friends is how J Michael Starzinski created Babylon 5. the Shadows is based on Durance and Captian John Sheridyn is based on Harry Ballz.

237. AJ - December 26, 2014

Heads Up: The 50th Anniversary Star Trek film is being directed by a “Fast and Furious” director with Bob Orci off the masthead as a writer.

Does this mean we get Vin Diesel? Is some sort of “Groot” just an inevitable outcome now for ST3? Will it be a plot-hole & maguffin-free lusciously complex exploration storyline with humor, sentimentality, nods to the fans and lovable merchandisable aliens? Does Justin Lin have any real chance of making a decent film, or is he just running on the “good ensemble cast director” reputation? (JJ also has it).

And, is it destined to suck?

238. Harry Ballz - December 26, 2014

Oh, it’s destined to suck all right. I’ve only seen clips from the last F&F movies and they’re GAWDAWFUL!!!

It’ll be all action, no story and countless explosions.

RIP Star Trek.

239. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 26, 2014

Well Guys. Looks like we will just have to keep watching Star Trek Continues and Phase 2.

240. Matt Wright - December 26, 2014

@233. Cygnus-X1

Yep I found it all fascinating. When I got home from the theater I immediately looked up tesseract, because I remember it being a sci-fi device more than anything else (as in the “A Wrinkle in Time” book series). It is of course also a “real” (if anything that exists purely as a mathematical exercise is real) 4D shape. Which as 3D beings we perceive as different cubes. Akin to your excellent 3D apple falling into a hole in a table as seen from a 2D being’s perspective example.

Neil deGrasse Tyson has a nice little video about the time as a dimension idea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1cexcjdyIE

241. D - December 27, 2014

I agree, Star Trek like many current re-makes are about getting explosions on screen and selling the same characters we knew and their toys with poor writing and medicore films.

After the main cast from TOS left, the generation movies were really hit and miss, I liked first contact though i think done these days more action would’ve suited it better, and i don’t think nemesis did well despite looking beautiful.

Khan and Search were always the best two.. to me at least there was that strong connection, even four was good, five was.. on par with a episode, and Six was strong but could’ve used more time to expand on plot.

But these new movies.. ugh.. taking the same characters from an earlier point in the time line and throwing them together doesn’t mean they’ll just work.. in fact kirk has changed spock can’t know he’d be best choice to be the captain and they could’ve run with that.

Kirk was the best captain but he doesn’t need to be in the new universe.. but they are copying the stereo types and limited plot ignoring character growth, i’ve seen paint have more character building over the time it takes to dry.

No Trek has been perfect, but the mission was interesting and you always watched it was a great idea there is a limitless universe in voyager and deep space nine i feel they capped the size, and TNG kept coming back into the federation.. but they still explored.

I know why they didn’t give franks the directing job, because he’d take it in the way fans want.. and the people making these movies think we don’t know what we want.

Lord of the rings, the Hobbit, Captain America – most the marvel movies, Giving fans what they want.. seems like a failure of an idea doesn’t it?
Making strong female leads comic book story lines, not “Serious” enough for the public..

They’re fucking morons, Startrek 9/10 are ‘nice explosion films’ but should have been another film with another name but those fuck wits don’t want to risk making a new series which will not bring in old fans to see it opening day.

Robocop, Transformers and on and on.
Same shit different day, Poor choices fucking morons.

The fan project seems like it’ll blow away the movies and is where everyone should put their money so we get more of it.
Axanar ; something to watch!

242. Spockchick - December 27, 2014

@Matt

I loved those books so much. was thinking of them again watching Avengers Assemble yesterday. May see if I can read them again.

243. CmdrR - December 27, 2014

That’s why NDT gets all the chicks.

“Tyson argues that in a hypothetical fifth dimension time could function in an non-linear manner which would essentially make questions of time paradoxes irrelevant (because all of time is happening at once).”

The above is a deep cut from the same interview, I think. It’s from: http://www.avclub.com/article/neil-degrasse-tyson-okay-ending-interstellar-212143

So, the “aliens” from the 5th Dimension sent Coop back because the moon was in the seventh house and Jupiter aligned with Mars.

Yes, and I’ll KEEP making 5th Dimension jokes until someone laughs!!!!

244. CmdrR - December 27, 2014

238 – Oh, it’s destined to suck all right. I’ve only seen clips from the last F&F movies and they’re GAWDAWFUL!!!

It’ll be all action, no story and countless explosions.

RIP Star Trek.

Harry, if Lin upholds his reputation for using an ensemble cast well in an action setting, that will be a great start. I would love some brain chow mixed in with the action, of course. But, mostly, I want an original story with characters I know and love on a ship I dream about. Lin seems qualified. Let’s all watch the first 2 eps of True Detective Season 2 — which Lin is directing — and check back here. (I think that’s coming up next month!!)

245. Craiger - December 27, 2014

CmdrR what if they did a scene like this with Zoe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3agMlOQObI

246. Craiger - December 27, 2014

Sorry my last post was for Harry.

247. CmdrR - December 27, 2014

Craiger — before or after Zoe had her twins?

248. Craiger - December 27, 2014

CmdrR how does she look after she had her twins?

249. Craiger - December 27, 2014

They could have a Kirk fight scene like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZG3MAlXt94

250. Harry Ballz - December 27, 2014

@246

Craiger, I appreciate you posting that clip, but ironically, you kind of made my point for me.

Is that scene well edited? Sure. Is there an exciting pace? Check. But, here’s the thing….

Is the action depicted in the scene even possible by human standards? No, not by along shot.

Two men could not fight flat out like that for that long. Can’t be done. Even in STID, for all it’s faults, had a scene where Kirk keeps punching at Khan, who allows it. After seven or eight blows Kirk is exhausted and merely stops because he can’t continue. Oh, but not in the F&F clip. The two men just keep going at it like automated cyborgs.Inexhaustable. Patently absurd.

251. Craiger - December 27, 2014

Harry did you see the F&F bikini clip? Post #242.

252. Harry Ballz - December 27, 2014

Yes, Craiger. That part I LIKED. Thank you. :>)

253. Craiger - December 27, 2014

Is she better than Durance?

254. CmdrR - December 27, 2014

Craiger – read my post #93. Zoe just had her twins. I know Hollywood does wonderful/horrible things in order to help a woman get her figure back, but I wouldn’t expect to see Zoe in anything revealing for a little while.

255. Red Dead Ryan - December 27, 2014

A couple of days ago I watched “The Interview”. It sucked a$$.

James Franco is a decent actor, but he’s no good at comedy.

256. Red Dead Ryan - December 27, 2014

“LEGO Star Trek: The Troubles With Tribbles”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWH5ROnI9Ac

Unfortunately, no barfight.

257. CmdrR - December 27, 2014

Every incremental detail paints an uglier picture. Still hoping for the best.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1706745/star-trek-3-writer-changes-roberto-orci-only-producing-film-still-set-for-july-2016-release/

258. Harry Ballz - December 27, 2014

@253 Craiger “Is she better than Durance?”

Craiger, Ernest Borgnine in a thong is better than Durance!

259. Silvereyes - December 27, 2014

Something must be wrong with me, but come on guys, Durance is a gorgeous babe and that skinny stick in that video at post 245 has a scrawny a$$… Sorry Harry!

260. Craiger - December 27, 2014

Harry don’t ruin one of my favorite shows Airwolf with that mental image. LOL.

I also saw Fast Five is on again tonight on Bravo at 8 PM Eastern, 7 Central.

261. Red Dead Ryan - December 27, 2014

The fight scene between Dwayne Johnson and Vin Diesel in “Fast 5″ was a lot of fun to watch. One of the best scenes in the movie.

These movies aren’t meant to be “realistic”, they’re supposed to be fun. Which they most definitely are.

262. Marja - December 27, 2014

Damn, I’m away from the board for a week during Christmas rush and I missed a BUNCH of crude, rude, hilarious posts

…. missed youse guys!

Hope all y’all are having a super holiday season!

263. CmdrR - December 27, 2014

262 – **belch, fart, groin scratch**

Oh, Hi Marja. We missed ya!

264. Harry Ballz - December 27, 2014

RDR, I respect your opinion, so I will just have to take a “wait and see” attitude”.

265. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 27, 2014

Hi Marja You just missed Harry and Durance. They secretly love each other lol

266. Red Dead Ryan - December 27, 2014

Another southeast Asian airliner disappears without a trace:

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/tv-station-airasia-plane-162-aboard-missing-indonesia-034125833.html

267. Harry Ballz - December 28, 2014

I’d say, “DURANCE SUCKS”, but that would be redundant, as that’s how she carved out a career.

268. PaulB - December 28, 2014

I’ve just figured it out. Harry Ballz IS Erica Durance. (Like John Harrison was Khan!)

It all makes sense now. She is trolling the Internet as an anti-Erica crusader just to assuage her guilt over an unearned career. She uses the guise of Harry Ballz to flagellate herself. (She heard the name in a list of things audiences would rather see than her face.)

Of all the roles she has played, I like Erica’s Harry Ballz the best! :)

269. Craiger - December 28, 2014

Harry, here is Durance’s bio and trivia about her:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1570568/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm

270. CmdrR - December 28, 2014

What’s sad is that when you add it all up, there is more attention spent on Erica Durance in this one chat room than in all of Hollywood combined.

I think they call that obsessive-repulsive behavior.

271. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 28, 2014

No question. Harry is obsessive-repulsive of one Erica Durance. Lol

272. Harry Ballz - December 28, 2014

You guys keep bringing up Durance. Here’s an idea…….quit poking the bear.

273. Red Dead Ryan - December 28, 2014

I agree….let the sleeping dog lie.

There are other actors and actresses to pick on. Variety is the spice of life, remember?

Anyway, I just watched “X-Men: Days Of Future Past”. What a terrific movie.

274. Silvereyes - December 28, 2014

Yes, enough of this Durance BS. The joke was getting old 2 years ago…

275. Harry Ballz - December 28, 2014

@272 “let the sleeping dog lie”

Ha, good one!

@273 “The joke was getting old 2 years ago”

Her career was getting old 2 years ago.

See, it’s like potato chips. I just can’t stop myself!

276. Phil - December 28, 2014

Maybe it’s time to avoid the message boards for a bit. The bulls**t is flying fast and furious again…

Okay, I’m not sure how we an turn FF references into a drinking game, but it might be worth a shot…glass…

277. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 28, 2014

Yes. It is getting Old. Just like Durance. Oops.

Yes. X Men days of Future’s past is an Awesome Movie. I loved it.

278. CdmrR - December 29, 2014

Saw “Unbroken.”
Um, sorry Angie… but I would recommend that people read the book instead.

279. CmdrR - December 29, 2014

It’s about time someone did a comparison…

http://www.gizmodo.in/news/Who-Would-Win-in-an-All-Out-Battle-Star-Wars-or-Star-Trek/articleshow/45682125.cms

280. Marja - December 29, 2014

274 and 275 Mr Ballz and Emperor Mike, ba-DUM-bah! All I can say is, I’ve never seen an actress suck the air out of a scene the way she did in one sample clip that was put up here a while back — some fantasy movie with a dragon. Wow. It was an “amazing” performance all right.

ANYWAYS
If y’all like musicals, and in particular Stephen Sondheim musicals, see “Into the Woods.” It is over two hours, so young’uns and the impatient may be stirring in their seats a bit, but the song “Agony!” is hilarious, and other songs with their thoughtful, deep lyrics, brought tears to my eyes.

281. Harry Ballz - December 29, 2014

@277 Marja “suck the air out of a scene”

Well, Marja, if someone was needed who had experience at “sucking”, it would be her!

ba-DUM-bah!

282. AJ - December 29, 2014

Off to the good old USA in an hour.

See y’all on the other side!

283. Marja - December 29, 2014

278 I love being your straight man [woman]!

284. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 29, 2014

Ok. Harry and Marja. You should take it on the road. Lol.

285. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 29, 2014

Hey CmdrR. That is a great Article. The Writer os so correct in saying the Tech of Trek will out do the Star Wars. Not even close. They may have the Force. But we have a Q

286. CmdrR - December 29, 2014

Marja,
I might like Sondheim.
I do like Chris Pine and I lurvs Emily Blunt, but the thought of Johnny Depp in yet another “zany” role makes my heart sink. the trailer for “Mortdechai” should explain why it’s coming out in January.

Tell me “Woods” goes light on the Depp.

Btw, I highly recommend seeing “Unbroken” in… print. Angie made an emotionally monotone flick out of a very good book.

287. spockchick - December 30, 2014

@282 AJ
you will be closer to all but further from me! Have a goodd trip!

288. Marja - December 30, 2014

285 CmdrR, Fear not. I think he’s on screen for a total of mayyyybe 7 minutes, if that. They say he modeled his costume on a Tex Avery cartoon — I can’t imagine what. Did Tex Avery ever draw a wolf in a Zoot Suit?

Yeah, not gonna see “Unbroken.” Plenty of other movies this time of year to look forward to before the early Spring Seasonal Dearth of good pictures.

282 AJ, Welcome home, Comrade :)

289. CmdrR - December 30, 2014

Marja — Mortdechai appears modeled on Terry Thomas, a gap-toothed Brit character actor from the 60’s whose movies included It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World. Capt. Jack Sparrow is famously modeled on Keith Richards; that one works. Willie Wonka is Michael Jackson, though Depp denies that. Whoever he modeled Barnabas on, the result was a gay clown.
Here’s the Tex Avery wolf:
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tex+avery+wolf&FORM=HDRSC2#view=detail&id=A6725B44BFF981879722CE89298BE8625A76D923&selectedIndex=16

My point is that Depp has flat out done enough of these “broad” characters. Either he needs to act or quit. “Transcendence” can’t really qualify as acting; more like sleep-walking.

290. Red Dead Ryan - December 30, 2014

Johnny Depp’s acting, I find, tends to lack “Depp-th”!

291. CmdrR - December 30, 2014

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpeculativeFictionTropes

Hey, you’ll never believe what I found on the interweb… a time-waster! I know, right?!

I’ve got it set for “speculative fiction,” aka sci-fi, but there are other genres.

As of now, I’m adding “bridge bunnies” to my personal lexicon.

Hey, you could drink tomorrow night… but THIS is just as pointless and won’t give you a headache!!

292. Phil - December 30, 2014

Depp seems very typecast into ‘caricature of’ roles these days, and like Jim Carrey from a few years back, the public seem to have grown tired of it. Lets face if, if you mentioned Depp playing a character in Trek now, Harry Mudd comes to mind immediately. Go back prior to POTC, and he could have been considered for just about any male role he would have wanted….

293. CmdrR - December 30, 2014

292 – Maybe drunken Riley. If Riley wears white-face and gives bedroom eyes to Spock.

Harry — your gal is back!
http://www.treksinscifi.com/trekdaily/ (Dec. 30)

294. Phil - December 30, 2014

@293 – Maybe Captain Koloth…with a feather boa.

295. CmdrR - December 30, 2014

292 — All of the flower children Headin’ Out to Eden… Ya, Brother!

296. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - December 30, 2014

Oh Good. More Red Shirt Diary.

297. AJ - December 31, 2014

Greetings from New York.

Here is a funny ‘fake’ trailer trying to make sense of the mess of the new “Terminator: Genisys” timeline mess which will obviously exist when that film is released:

http://io9.com/terminator-genisys-should-just-admit-how-screwed-up-it-1676159348?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

298. Aurore - December 31, 2014

@ 297. AJ – December 31, 2014

“Greetings from New York…”

__________

Greetings from…here.

:)

Thank you for the link!

299. CmdrR - December 31, 2014

Happy New Stardate, everyone!

300. Phil - December 31, 2014

More Trek vs. Wars chatter. I will say hey were a bit hard on Treks grasp of science….though Trek still wins

http://gizmodo.com/who-would-win-in-an-all-out-battle-star-wars-or-star-t-1676075613

Happy new year!

301. Harry Ballz - December 31, 2014

Is it time? Good………

HAPPY NEW YEARS, TO ALL MY FRIENDS AT CHAT!

302. Aurore - January 1, 2015

Best wishes for 2015, everyone.

HAPPY NEW YEAR !

303. spockchick - January 1, 2015

happy new year to all xxxxx

P x

304. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 1, 2015

Happt new year everyone.
Festival! Festival!!! Festival!!!!!

305. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 1, 2015

Sorry for my typo. Still in Festival Mode. Ha Ha

306. AJ - January 1, 2015

Happy Happy!!!!

307. Spockchick - January 1, 2015

happy happy joy joy!

love Stimpy

308. Red Dead Ryan - January 1, 2015

Happy NEW YEAR, YO!

And just for a little bit of Play-(dil)-doh fun:

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-buzz/play-doh-cake-frosting-guns-phallic-shape-causes-162520158.html

309. Harry Ballz - January 1, 2015

Hmmm, how many PLAY-DOH NECKLACES will be tried over the weekend?

310. Red Dead Ryan - January 1, 2015

#309.

Probably 69.

311. CmdrR Space-Time is Curved - January 1, 2015

Happy 2012!

312. CmdrR - January 1, 2015

308 – Mr. Bill!! Oh no!!!!!

Barbie: “Mr. Bill, oh YES!!!!”

313. Harry Ballz - January 1, 2015

I’ve just watched my first few episodes of Game of Thrones. What a great show!

314. CmdrR - January 2, 2015

Drogon burns Lake Town while playing with matches… Daenerys is from the future… Tyrion sells Herbalife…

Oh, did I say spoilers?

It’s quite a ride, Harry. Enjoy.

315. CmdrR - January 2, 2015

One more:

Olenna Tyrell used to be a spy… and a damned sexy one back in the day…

316. B Kramer - January 2, 2015

“Spectre of the Gun” TATV S3 excerpt:

http://www.thesearethevoyagesbooks.com/spectre-of-the-gun.html

LLAP

317. Harry Ballz - January 2, 2015

Aw, Donna Douglas, who played Elly May on The Beverley Hillbillies, has died at the age of 81.

318. Red Dead Ryan - January 2, 2015

Harry,

Glad to see you’ve started watching “Game Of Thrones”!

319. TrekMadeMeWonder - January 2, 2015

I tried to watch that but could never get into it.

Just like when I try to watch Walking Dead. Every time I tune in, it’s a character drama, and with NO zombies ever to be seen!

I just can’t hang out all day waiting to be entertained without a good sci-fi backstory.

320. Red Dead Ryan - January 2, 2015

“The Walking Dead” was great for the first three seasons, but the quality has dropped off considerably. For the fourth season, and the first half of season five, it’s become a soap opera based on melodrama. There’s fewer zombies. Too many boring “filler” episodes. There’s going to be a spin-off, which probably won’t work. It’ll be more of the same.

“Game Of Thrones”, on the other hand, has somehow managed to stay fresh and interesting after four seasons. Characters get killed off and replaced, new places are visited, and new conflicts erupt.

321. spockchick - January 2, 2015

@317 Harry
Aw, bless Donna. Poor Elly-May. I always imagine her as the model for Daisy Duke. Also each time I see ‘Helga’ from class Christmas film ‘Trading Places’, I think of Elly May. I hope she is floating on an air bed in the sun, on the cee-ment pond!

322. CmdrR - January 2, 2015

http://trekcore.com/blog/2014/12/smithsonian-enterprise-update/

kewl stuv

TrekMadeMeWonder — not enough zombies? They’re sliced, they’re diced, they’re set on fire. My problem with TWD is that there is no discernible plot. They have no goal post. (Washington DC was a McGuffin, of course.) It just feels like YEARS of my life wasted watching pointless gore… especially since they killed Shane & Lori, who provided the most interesting plot lines, also Merle. (imho The Governor was a snore-fest of a villain, plus the d*ck killed Andrea.)

323. Phil - January 2, 2015

Smithsonian is hard at work on the Enterprise model..

http://gizmodo.com/how-the-smithsonian-is-restoring-the-original-uss-enter-1676892739

324. CmdrR - January 2, 2015

And some handy information for Harry…

http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/highlight/robot-handjobs-are-the-future-and-the-future-is-coming/5283e961fe34444eb70002bd?cps=gravity_2844_134747029640972618

By your command!

325. Red Dead Ryan - January 2, 2015

Yeah, I hated how the old doctor was killed off. The Governor blew big time.

326. TrekMadeMeWonder - January 2, 2015

321. CmdrR

Dumb luck. I never see Zombies on that show. I ussually only habg for a couple minutes. But I always check, but only every so often.

BTW. Thanks for that link above.

My mouth droped when I saw this linked from your post above.

http://www.robot1138.com/BigE/BigE.html

Totally AWESOME! That model IS pure Trek magic.
How JJ could not bring that back is very telling of how these past couple movies have been put together.

Hey, I have an idea. With this new restoration and the ship being somewhat available, why can’t we get the original Enterprise, Trek’s BIGGEST star, into the third BR movie?

327. Red Dead Ryan - January 2, 2015

Is this just artwork, or is Neill Blomkamp going to take the reigns of the “Alien” franchise? Either way, very intriguing:

http://blogs.canoe.ca/projectionist/movies/district-9-director-posts-pretty-rad-alien-concept-art/

328. CmdrR - January 2, 2015

327 – Some folks openly question whether Ridley Scott can keep going with Alien, because of commitments and, frankly, his age.
We could do a LOT worse than Blomkamp.

It would be so sweet to see a real TOS Enterprise find its way into ST3… even if it’s only like the hanging model that didn’t make the cut in STID.

329. Red Dead Ryan - January 2, 2015

Blomkamp said he’s a big Trek fan, but was once asked if he wanted to direct a movie, but he said the current direction of the franchise wouldn’t be compatible with his ideas.

In other words, he doesn’t want to work with a studio — in this case, Paramount — that dictates how he should make his movies.

330. CmdrR - January 2, 2015

RDR – “he said the current direction of the franchise wouldn’t be compatible with his ideas.”

Blomkamp has “ideas.” Paramount wants a movie about two explosions getting into a two-hour fistfight over a scantily clad chick.

331. Spockchick - January 3, 2015

I loved district 9 zo much and never tire if it. Blokamp’s films are a perfect example of what happens when it is one person with a vision, not this ‘film by committee’ that hollywood seems to be going in for. And ‘Chappie’ looks wonderful, I can’t wait for it to be released

332. Bud Weiser - January 3, 2015

It is beyond strange that while Trekmovie.com covered the original making of the movie “Mind Sifter” from the folks at Phase II, New Voyages. It was just released to zero information on this site. Did you folks use a “MindSifter” on yourselves?

333. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 3, 2015

Well. James Cawley is not happy with trekmovie. Trekmivie did not say anything about Mindsifter. So I emailed Anthony and tips to get them to do one.

334. CmdrR - January 3, 2015

332 – It’s a GOOD flick. TM should do a piece on Mind-Sifter.

335. Disinvited - January 3, 2015

#269. Craiger – December 28, 2014

How does a bird phobic survive growing up on a turkey farm?!!!

I’m guessing Harry would say, “They recognized her as one of their own.”?

336. Harry Ballz - January 3, 2015

@334 Disinvited

Well, I guess growing up on a turkey farm is where she learned how to gobble.

337. Red Dead Ryan - January 3, 2015

@334, 335.

The turkey farm is also where she perfected the art of “laying an egg”, performance-wise.

338. Matt Wright - January 3, 2015

@ 332 — I think we’ve lost our fan films editor, when Tony goes AWOL all the contributors tend to wander off, so we need someone to keep up with that kind of news :-/

339. AJ - January 4, 2015

I made it half way through Mind Sifter, cut it off to go do something, and never had the inclination to go back. I had been looking forward to it as well.

The effort and love that go into those productions are admirable, and the FX are a treat, but even the best ones, Mind Sifter included, are just a step away from unwatchable adult fanboy-squee action-figure playtime.

I suppose it takes the aforementioned love, plus guts and lots of free time to put something like that out, but these little shows so consistently under-perform in so many ways, that it’s become tiresome to endure the long build-up and ultimate disappointment + on-line backlash each episode generates.

If we had real Trek in production that wasn’t so embarrassing in its consistent mismanagement and low quality bar, perhaps it wouldn’t make a difference. It actually doesn’t.

340. CmdrR - January 4, 2015

338 –
TM Fans: That’s mutiny, mister!

Tony: Yes, sir.

341. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 4, 2015

Well. Maybe we here in the Live Chat need to take over the Ship. I think we can figure it out.

342. CmdrR - January 4, 2015

339 – “even the best ones, Mind Sifter included, are just a step away from unwatchable adult fanboy-squee action-figure playtime.”

AJ, in many cases I would agree with your assessment. Certainly, there is a slew (or whatever the plural of slew is) of plus-sized fans in ill-fitting costumes standing in front of crappy green screened stills doing their version of Trek. I think with other productions, notably ‘Mind-Sifter’ and ‘World Enough and Time’ and possibly ‘To Serve All of My Days’… the story stands on its own enough to deserve a viewing. Yes, some of the P2 and STC have missed the mark. Again, fans got incredibly lucky with the talent and staff that went into TOS. But, I’ll give credit where it’s due and say that sometimes these productions get it right. If you don’t want to watch after 10 minutes, fair enough. For me, until we get a really well-planned Trek back on TV in some form (13 eps per year on cable with Rand in a sonic shower, Puh-LEASE!!!) then I am happy someone out their is sharing the love.

343. CmdrR - January 4, 2015

to folo on 333 – as seen on Anthony’s Facebook page:

James Cawley
Thank You Trekmovie.com for completely ignoring the release of “Mind-Sifter”.

344. Cygnus-X1 - January 4, 2015

I can understand the lack of patience with the fan films. You have to make certain allowances and manage your expectations most of the time. But, still, it’s interesting to see where they succeed and where they fail. And, overall, I think that Mind Sifter is a strong production and also a progression from the last Phase 2 episode.

My main problem with the Phase 2 episodes is the pacing. In every episode, there is invariably 5-10 minutes of superfluous film that could have been cut to make a tighter, more compelling episode that also (perhaps not surprisingly) happens to conform with the approximate running time of the TOS episodes. Being that this issue is so consistent, I have to assume that the Phase 2 folks simply like it that way and it’s their style of choice.

But, the performances in Mind Sifter were all pretty solid. Some of the other productions (like Farragut) have performances that I do find hard to watch and that take me out of the moment frequently. But, the performances in Mind Sifter—while not as compelling as Shatner, Nimoy and Kelley—aren’t bad. My one complaint there would be that I didn’t particularly care for the way that Spock was played as constantly stressed out and dismayed.

But, there have been some fan episodes that I’ve enjoyed so much that I’ve watched them more than once. STC’s Lolani and Exeter’s Tressaurian Intersection come to mind.

You have to appreciate fan productions in the same way that you might appreciate a less than top-notch recording of less than polished musicians playing original music that is actually very good. Sometimes the performances are problematic enough that you just don’t want to sit through it. But, many times, if you can overlook the less than top-notch performances and production values, you can really get into a fan production. And even the production values have come a long way. I didn’t have any problems with the production value in Mind Sifter, as a TOS-style production. And everyone seems impressed with the production value in Axanar, myself included.

Anyway, some people enjoy off-off-Broadway plays and some people have no interest. If you don’t enjoy these fan productions, then you just don’t enjoy them. But, if you can look past the amateur actors, there are some very rich and enjoyable stories to be found.

345. Harry Ballz - January 4, 2015

I just “binge-watched” the first 3 seasons of Game Of Thrones!

What a great f*cking series!!!!

Probably one of the very best things ever produced for television!

Why can’t Trek be this good? Oh, that’s right, for the very reasons AJ cited @339.

UN-F*CKING-BELIEVABLE!!!

346. CmdrR - January 5, 2015

So Harry, how’d you like the Red Wedding?
In fact, if I’m ever invited to a wedding in Westeros, I think I’ll hide.

347. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 5, 2015

Well. Sorry Harry. I just can’t help my self.
If you want to really Torture somneone. Make them watch a Bige Viewing of Durance. It will Drive them really Crazy.

348. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 5, 2015

I enjoy most fan production’s. I see them and treat them for what they are. My 2 faves are STC and Phase 2. STC Fairest of them all was one of the best I have seen and Phase 2s Mind sifter is the best ever. It was as close to TOS as it could possible be. What I love about STC is they have a real Doohan playing Scotty and every now and then I think he is the orignal Scotty. Chris Doohan has done a superb job in his Dad’s footsteps. Vic has done a good job in playing Kirk.
I just watehed Exeter’s Tressaurian Intersection Ep. I thought that was a well done Ep. A Couple of the actors were not all that good. But the one who played the Andoren did a great job along with a couple of other’s. But all in all was a great Story worthy of a Tos Ep.

349. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 5, 2015

I will say this about James Cawey. He is one of us. He is always lookng for props of Tos and always trying to make as Authintic of a Production of Tos as possible. He has some actual Tos Writter;s helping him. The best move he made was to take himself out of Kirk’s chair and get a really good actor to come in and make Kirke his own. Brian Gross has done that and made me belive he is Kirk. I just wish they would get Chris Doohan over to Phase 2 as Scotty.

350. CmdrR - January 5, 2015

Best TOS credits in nearly 50 years!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpgsFAGrV9A

(link totally stolen from TM’s Twitter feed)

351. Red Dead Ryan - January 5, 2015

I hope the next Trek series gets the ten-episode-a-season treatment like “Game Of Thrones” does. In the case of GoT, the writers manage to make each episode epic, without any boring storylines as filler. They give you a full meal, and yet, leave you wanting more. Not easy to do in this day and age.

Not to mention GoT, being on HBO, isn’t interrupted by gazillions of dumb advertisements.

But, alas, neither Paramount nor CBS has any clue (or possibly desire) to break Star Trek out of its box and make it truly special.

352. Red Dead Ryan - January 5, 2015

A potentially new TIE Fighter from “The Force Awakens”:

http://www.blastr.com/2015-1-4/leaked-concept-art-could-reveal-new-uber-tie-fighter-star-wars-force-awakens

353. Red Dead Ryan - January 5, 2015

He’s either a genius, or some guy in a garage with too much time and money on his hands:

http://www.blastr.com/2015-1-2/make-it-so-guy-who-trying-invent-warp-drive-his-garage

354. Harry Ballz - January 5, 2015

@346

Yes, CmdrR, the Red wedding was cool! Bloodbath on line one!

#347

Emperor Mike, I give anyone about 7 minutes on a Durance binge-watch. At the 7 minute mark, they all claw their own eyes out.

355. Cygnus-X1 - January 5, 2015

349. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire – January 5, 2015

I agree. Gross makes a better Kirk, I have to say.

Mignogna has shown steady improvement in that role, from the first STC vignette to the recent Fairest…. Haberkorn is my favorite of the fan Spocks. He’s really made that character his own, and that’s not easy to do within the bounds of that character. Doohan is obviously very good in his role.

I like how Phase 2 and STC have different styles and feels; I just wish that Phase 2 would strive to make their episodes tighter like STC does. Mind Sifter showed definite progress, though, in all other respects. The scenes with the Klingons were great.

356. Phil - January 6, 2015

@353. Hey, he thinks he’s about six months away from a proof of concept test. Who knows….

357. CmdrR - January 6, 2015

Lightning is FTL?
Who knew?

358. Red Dead Ryan - January 6, 2015

Earlier today, I watched “Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes”. What a terrific movie.

“Rise” is great as well. A great example of how to properly reboot a franchise.

359. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 6, 2015

Ok. Here is a Link to Real Road sign’s LOL.

http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Galleries/Funniest-road-signs.aspx?p=4#H6IAAOufV9cg6bkX.01

360. CmdrR - January 6, 2015

359 – Dammit! Now I can’t take my broccoli on vacation in Somalia.

361. LizardGirl - January 6, 2015

@RDR

OMG! Did you cry? I totally cried on both Rise and Dawn. I watched Rise at home because I was like “this looks like crappola, I’ll just rent it from the library when it comes to DVD”. Then I watched it and was literally crying. Then I brought it over to a friends house for movie night. They were like “what the heck is this?”. Then by the end of it, they were all crying.

So I saw Dawn in the theaters. and was awed. You’re tense during most of the movie, just waiting for the other shoe to drop. You know what’s going to happen but still have to watch it play out. Well, I’m glad you got to see those movies.

Favorite scene from Dawn of the Planet of the Apes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLF9wJrBX1g

As well as a quick IGN review of that movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBKr86f-OVs

362. Harry Ballz - January 6, 2015

I’m ripping Orci a new one over on the July 8, 2016 thread. IT FEELS GOOD!

363. AJ - January 7, 2015

Greetings from freezing Canada (just outside Ottawa).

It is NOT cold in the US (20F with wind in NYC). It IS cold in Canada. (+4 F with wind and blowing snow, going down to -18).

364. Lurker - January 7, 2015

Hey Paramount – you better take a look at this before you really green light the next movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Fh5E-w9Wo&list=PLrEnWoR732-BHrPp_Pm8_VleD68f9s14-&index=15

365. CmdrR - January 7, 2015

364 – Great. Another vote for science = boring.
That’s kinda what we’re fighting AGAINST!

366. CmdrR - January 7, 2015

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/science/space/as-ranks-of-goldilocks-planets-grow-astronomers-consider-whats-next.html?_r=0

I know, this is boring. It doesn’t have the Millennium Falcon banking and making noise — both impossible in a vaccuum — but, it’s the best we can do!

367. AJ - January 7, 2015

Some Benedict Cumberbatch humor from the New Yorker:

http://www.newyorker.com/cartoons/daily-cartoon/daily-cartoon-monday-january-5th-benedict-cumberbatch?mbid=social_facebook

368. Cygnus-X1 - January 7, 2015

363. AJ – January 7, 2015

It is NOT cold in the US (20F with wind in NYC).

8F tonight in NYC. Colder with the wind.

Don’t sell us short.

369. CmdrR - January 7, 2015

OK, surely THIS will get Harry excited!

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/08/science/in-a-far-off-galaxy-2-black-holes-dance-toward-an-explosive-union.html

An explosion equal to 100 million supernovae. Hell, Jerry Bruckheimer’s erection is now visible from space!

Anything?

No??

Jeez, you people…

370. CmdrR - January 7, 2015

http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/01/benedict-cumberbatch-to-father-a-tiny-cumberbaby.html

Congratulations on the couple’s Khan or daughter.

371. Phil - January 7, 2015

It is not cold in the US…or at least my corner of it – 80 in sunny SoCal today.

And after The Lone Ranger I wasn’t counting on a Bruckheimer erection for quite a while…..

372. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 7, 2015

Ok. It’s 16 here in Dallas. For us. That is just flat out COLD!!!! We like it HOT here. Like 100 to 105 or so. Not this 16 CRAP!!!!!

373. Phil - January 7, 2015

61 here now….

374. Harry Ballz - January 7, 2015

@369 CmdrR “surely THIS will get Harry excited!”

Geez, CmdrR, two black holes move closer to each other, with the anticipation of an explosive union?

Sounds like two lesbians having sex.

Q: What do you call a lesbian dinosaur?

A: A Lick-A-Lotta-Puss!

375. crazydaystrom - January 8, 2015

374. Harry Ballz –

“Q: What do you call a lesbian dinosaur?

A: A Lick-A-Lotta-Puss!”

We always called it an Etta-Lotta-Puss. But I know that’s just the common term for that creature. I’ve always wondered what the Latin name for it was. Now I know. Haha!

Thanks Harry. You’re ever and always a real education. :-)

376. Lurker - January 8, 2015

Back to the slopes for JB:

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/007-recaptures-retro-vibe-as-spectre-shoot-heads-107440893542.html

377. CmdrR - January 8, 2015

https://tv.yahoo.com/news/neil-degrasse-tyson-host-nat-geo-first-ever-230318738.html

I hear that Neil will be skiing downhill while explaining string theory.

378. CmdrR - January 8, 2015

2 flying prehistoric lesbians?

Pairodykels.

**runs to his cave, eaten by T-Lez**

379. Silvereyes - January 8, 2015

371, 372, 373

What a bunch of wusses… its 40 below here! Stop complaining.

380. Phil - January 8, 2015

@379. Wait just a dog gone minute…I wasn’t complaining, I was bragging!

381. Phil - January 8, 2015

Well, I guess we now know why A-pat-a-sore-ass went extinct. Spanking dinosaurs just never got past the foreplay…

382. Phil - January 8, 2015

Lets see. Foreplay.

383. B Kramer - January 8, 2015

Elvis – ST connection on his 80th:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSGfDm9lOSU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nJ5KLXpmcg

LLAP

384. Harry Ballz - January 8, 2015

Q: What do you call a lesbian with fat fingers?

A: Well hung!

385. Disinvited - January 8, 2015

# 366. CmdrR – January 7, 2015

Give me the right array of retro rockets and I’ll duplicate any maneuver in zero G . As anyone who’s felt the need for speed knows, you might waste a lot of fuel, but fuel economy is not what being cool is all about!

#379. Silvereyes – January 8, 2015

What’s -40C compared to Chicago’s -21F?

386. Phil - January 8, 2015

Frozen solid, as opposed to hard. Very, very hard.

387. CmdrR - January 8, 2015

384 – That’s not the same as banking. It’s cheating — kinda like rockets suddenly appearing all over the underside of the Enterprise.

388. CmdrR - January 8, 2015

OK,
Why is a lesbian like a member of congress?

Neither does d^ck.

………..

18 tonight in Hotlanta.

389. Disinvited - January 8, 2015

From the “BREAKING: Next Star Trek Film Set for July 8, 2016″ per Kayla Iacovino’s suggestion

# 945. SkiesSeven – January 8, 2015

” It’s [Recent Paris Shootings] a typical case of mass killing.” — SkiesSeven

Typical? The only thing I find typical is that automatic weapons were used. Most of the individuals killed were named out loud and dispatched with a single bullet to the head. That’s not a “typical” mass killing; more like a typical mass execution.

390. Disinvited - January 8, 2015

# 387. CmdrR – January 8, 2015

“That’s not the same as banking. It’s cheating…” — CmdrR

Says the guy who lost his pink to the guy in the supped up ’54 that in now way should have been able to beat him except for its NOX boost.

Hey, if you want me to concede there’s no way military issue ships would have such a fuel wasting contraption you might convince me except all I can think about are those cool contemporary hovering Harriers and all the fuel being wasted when they impossibly hover.

Besides even so, Han had the Millennium Falcon supped up to do unexpected things for its class of ship. When it came to it having banks of retros to do “impossible” maneuvers he’d be “All about the banks… about the banks…no trouble.” to borrow a popular diddy.

And another thing, just because the ship and its contents are in a 0G area of space doesn’t mean the contents of said ship can take unmolested an instantaneously change in course at high velocities. In the absence of Treknology, you’d have to resort to some sort of maneuvers to safely decelerate the contents and acelerate them in the new course. When I mentally project that, I see curves which could be mistaken for “banking”.

But then when I think of some of those other maneuvers Han pulled in EMPIRE maybe they do have Treknology?

391. Silvereyes - January 8, 2015

385 Disinvited

I was actually meaning -40F, not Celsius for the sake of my American friends who are still in the Stone Age of the imperial measuring system. So yeah, much colder than the balmy -21F in Chicago (although with the wind blowing in from the lake, even 75F is chilly in the Windy City).

I must point out though that -40 is where the Fahrenheit and Celsius scales meet. So -40F = -40C

392. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 8, 2015

Hey Silver Eyes. Did you have any Stone Knives and Skins We Simple Americans can use. LOl

393. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 8, 2015

Now Playing in Texas. Frozen. A Live Action Movie.

394. Phil - January 9, 2015

Design flaws? No!!

http://io9.com/top-10-biggest-design-flaws-in-the-u-s-s-enterprise-1678274241

395. CmdrR - January 9, 2015

RIP Rod Taylor

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/09/showbiz/rod-taylor-dead/

396. CmdrR - January 9, 2015

Phil — Not really worried. Plenty of letters left in the alphabet.
Meanwhile, let’s nitpick Altman’s grammar, shall we???

“In “That Which Survives,” we discover you can make the Enterprise explode by screwing around with the bypass valve in the matter-antimatter integrator room, “adjacent to main engineering — which is easy to get in and out of, especially for beautiful women without midriffs,” says Altman.”

Beautiful women without midriffs? Eeeeeoooww. But, a midriff is like, my fourth or fifth favorite part of a beautiful woman. I think he means… Lord, I hope he means “beautiful women with exposed midriffs.”

397. Disinvited - January 9, 2015

# 387. CmdrR – January 8, 2015

“That’s not the same as banking. It’s cheating…” — CmdrR

Says the guy who lost his pink to the guy in the suped up ’54 that in no way should have been able to beat him except for its NOX boost.

Hey, if you want me to concede there’s no way military issue ships would have such a fuel wasting contraption you might convince me except all I can think about are those cool contemporary hovering Harriers and all the fuel being wasted when they impossibly hover.

Besides even so, Han had the Millennium Falcon suped up to do unexpected things for its class of ship. When it came to it having banks of retros to do “impossible” maneuvers he’d be “All about the banks… about the banks…no trouble.” to borrow a popular ditty.

And another thing, just because the ship and its contents are in a 0G area of space doesn’t mean the contents of said ship can sustain intact an instantaneous change in course at high velocities. In the absence of Treknology, you’d have to resort to some sort of maneuvers to safely decelerate the contents and accelerate them on the new course. When I mentally project that, I see curves which could be mistaken for “banking”.

But then when I think of some of those other maneuvers Han pulled in EMPIRE maybe they do have Treknology?

398. Disinvited - January 9, 2015

# 396. CmdrR – January 9, 2015

” Beautiful women without midriffs? ” — CmdrR

Good catch near the dangling preposition.

But we should note this was the 1960s with its “no belly button” rule which made televised midriffs appear odd, unnatural and indeed, absent.

399. AJ - January 9, 2015

Hey, Silvereyes! I am sitting in the Montreal bus station with a hot ticket down to NY City in an hour. Experienced that -40 thing this week…Fahrenheit still seems warmer…Back in Russia Monday!

400. Red Dead Ryan - January 9, 2015

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401. Red Dead Ryan - January 9, 2015

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402. Marja - January 9, 2015

A belated Happy New Year to all!

Been absent cos I lost access to $20/mo internet f neighbor’s. They are moving. I am on my cellphone so you’ll be seeing a lot more typos :-p

Movies by committee: more like movies by budgetary teams. They are the ones who decide how much bang for the buck they need. That usually means morning CGI banngs cos they invest so much money in hopes of huge returns from Asian audiences who are impatient with plot or character development … the more spectacle the “better” … sad state of affairs predicted a decade ago. ‘Tis a shame and a pity that it came true.

Harry that July 18 thread is still going? Oh you mean the one about the release date …

I think Erica Durance should change her first name to “En” … then we could say the surprising En Durance … [ wince ]

403. Silvereyes - January 9, 2015

399 AJ, hope you had the opportunity to visit a little bit of our fair city. Too bad you had to be here in this cold! Safe trip back to NYC and Russia!

404. Marja - January 9, 2015

AJ Sorry the weather’s been so much like Russia’s this week :-/ Hope you enjoy NYC. Have a good trip back from the cold US to cold Russia …

405. Phil - January 9, 2015

Yeah, Marja. I may have mentioned this already, but saw the trailer for the Mad Max reboot. It seems to have been turned into a CGI particular as well. Finally caught Lone Ranger on cable – all CGI did was hurt that effort. Knock off all the graphics, and it might have been a decent movie.

Happy new year to you as well….

406. Harry Ballz - January 9, 2015

Anybody know why Orci is viciously attacking me on the July 2016 thread?

407. Mike Barnett - January 10, 2015

I’m guessing that this post from the other thread paid some role. So your bait was successful. Pat yourself on your back, which you seem to have no problem doing.

173. Harry Ballz – December 25, 2014
A story? Bob Orci says he has a story??

Hell, if a few of us here sat around over beers, spitballing ideas, WE could come up with a story!

To paraphrase Scotty, “coming up with a story is easy, writing a great script is hard!”

Oh, and I do mean GREAT, not that paint-by-numbers garbage we’ve had to endure, like STID.

(oops, was that my outside voice?)

408. CmdrR - January 10, 2015

406 – aaaaah-aah-ah-aaaaaaah, bitter dregs.

Harry, it sounds like Boborci is nipping into the Tranya and lashing out at those he can lash out at without getting knocked even further down the Hollywood pecking order. I wouldn’t take it too seriously.

As for your script… seriously, everyone’s got a reject pile. Why don’t you nurse along another entirely new story. Here’s a thought: ST universe, but not the E, or maybe the E crew is just in the background a little.

409. Phil - January 10, 2015

Well, in the big picture, no. Just an observation, plenty of people pile on Orci/BR in open media, the terrific trio has been at it non stop here pretty much since BR came on board the Trek franchise. (My son, the Dr. Who fan, tells me it’s pretty bad on DW message boards as well). So, maybe Bob’s dog died, the cute girl he thought he was picking up at the bar turned out to be a guy, he just found out his FA has pissed away his retirement accounts, who knows why he’s having a bad day. If any of us knew each other in real life, we’d be barking at each other from time to time. Not to sure I’d take it personally. While we’d like to think we ‘know’ the guy, none of us are his friends, so him snapping at Harry (or the terrific trio) shouldn’t be taken personally.

410. Spockchick - January 10, 2015

@409 Phil

Wise Phil, I am sure you are right. stuff that happens in life can make reactions escalate, especially online.

Everyone here is a real person, Harry, Bob, Marja, CmrdR, Silvereyes, RedDeadRyan, Disinvited, AJ, Commander Mike, sorry if I forget chat chums. I have already kicked the metaphorical dog this week (hubby) due to work stress. Not sure of my point here, but I like being here. Love, Peg xxx

411. crazydaystrom - January 10, 2015

408. CmdrR –

“…it sounds like Boborci is nipping into the Tranya…”

It really does. My guess as well.

412. Harry Ballz - January 10, 2015

@407 Mike Barnett “Pat yourself on your back, which you seem to have no problem doing”

Over the last couple of years I’ve read a few comments like this one. I honestly don’t think I’m egocentric, but some people here think I am.

Personally, I think I’m a real pussycat about most things.

Also, as Dizzy Dean once said, “hey, it ain’t bragging if you can do it!”

413. CmdrR - January 10, 2015

So basically what you’re singing Harry is…

Oh, Lord, it’s hard to be humble
When you’re perfect in every way
I can’t wait to look in the mirror
‘Cause I get better lookin’ each day

(Shatner recorded the definitive version of this song — it’s on the flip side of Rocket Man.)

414. Harry Ballz - January 10, 2015

Hey, I’ve got plenty of flaws, just like everyone else here!

I simply try to focus on the positive.

415. Harry Ballz - January 10, 2015

my posts keep disappearing.

416. Harry Ballz - January 10, 2015

oh, great! that’s the one that stays up!

417. Harry Ballz - January 10, 2015

My posts keep disappearing from the July 2016 thread.

And I’m not even saying anything bad!

418. AJ - January 11, 2015

The whole thing with Harry’s script is kind of depressing. It poorly reflects on the corporate ownership of Star Trek when its head writer starts bashing fans with profanity and lies. It also reflects the sorry state of Trek at the moment. Utterly rudderless. Happy 50th.

419. CmdrR - January 11, 2015

I kinda feel bad for Orci in that since his profanity-laced post is getting so much attention here, it’s likely to go mainstream. Harry, you could be famous afterall. I suspect what we’re seeing is a rant prompted by his losing the director’s gig. Well… THIS ain’t gonna help. Hollywood isn’t likely to fork over $200M (or whatever) to the control of someone (not counting actors) who behaves like that in public.

420. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 11, 2015

Harry. Your Post keep diapering because of a certen woman who shall not be named.
Riuns and Hides.

421. CmdrR - January 11, 2015

Wow, it’s true. ED can suck the words off a page!

422. Harry Ballz - January 11, 2015

ED

Erica Durance

Erectile Dysfunction

Coincidence? I think not.

:>)

423. Harry Ballz - January 11, 2015

AJ, Orci just came back on the thread and replied to your post by saying he has never lied.

424. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 11, 2015

Well. I just put my 2 cents on on the Orci thred. LOl. I let Orci and them have it a bit.

425. Marja - January 11, 2015

HOLY SHEE IT’S JANUARY 11 ALREADY????

Well Harry I am gonna have to check out that thread again! Now you will be as famous as Ahmed!

I suspect old Bob is feeling pretty er ballz kicked just now, in general, not just by our Harry. Do y’all think he might have a really stinking temperament … ? So much so that Pmount doesn’t want him in charge of much of anything? And as y’all are saying maybe he’s having a “kick the critical Trekfans” meltdown moment because of the professional kick in the ‘nads or something entirely unrelated. About 5 minutes of “debate” with TUP or the other Sons of the Neverwrong does it for me. Why not Bob as well. Though he should not ( nor any other ) be using bad language TO another person here. He may know how to write scripts that sell but aren’t interpersonal skills equally necessary? Whew

426. Harry Ballz - January 11, 2015

Marja, if Orci has been kicked around by Paramount, then it’s exactly at that moment we see if he’s got any class. It’s easy to be nice when you’re flying high, quite another when you’re feeling pressured and really low.

Jusging by Orci’s explosions of anger, I’m willing to bet he’s either bipolar or diabetic. That’s me trying to let him off the hook, because if he’s neither of those things, then he’s just an asshole!

427. LizardGirl - January 12, 2015

Or he could be human.

428. CmdrR - January 12, 2015

boborci is still monitoring the July 8 thread. He’s very circumspect right now — so… lowercase b boborci, sted of Bob-screamin-orci.

429. Silvereyes - January 12, 2015

426 Harry

Well said, as usual my friend. Or he could have been drunk. In either case, there’s no excuse. If you can’t handle the pressures of your job, find something else to do. And yah, you’re going to get flak from Trekkies after dishing out that load of crap that is STID. Deal with it!

With the kind of writing he’s been doing, he’s in no position to judge your work and certainly not your potential as a screenwriter.

So, I opt for the a$$hole option…

430. Harry Ballz - January 12, 2015

429

Thanks, Silvereyes. I saw your recent post on the 2016 thread. Nice.

Oh, and AJ, you wrote a great post as well.

431. Silvereyes - January 12, 2015

430 Harry

As you once told me, I have your back.

And as a plaque says on my wall in my office, “Don’t let the bastards wear you down!”

432. CmdrR - January 12, 2015

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
look for:
2015 January 12

Always looking out for you to find new time-wasters. This one lets you score points or destroy all life in a solar system. Fun.

433. Phil - January 12, 2015

I’ll take destroy all life in the solar system for a hundred, Alex….

434. CmdrR - January 12, 2015

Dig it!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/birdofthegalaxy/

435. Lurker - January 13, 2015

434.
CmdrR – January 12, 2015

Dig it!

———————————————————-
Awesome collection – thank you for posting that link.

436. Red Dead Ryan - January 13, 2015

New “Avengers: Age of Ultron” trailer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZoO8QVMxkk

437. Red Dead Ryan - January 13, 2015

“Superman Vs Batman: Dawn of Justice” trailer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWcimiuIGxM

438. Red Dead Ryan - January 13, 2015

The “Dawn of Justice” trailer is fake, btw. :-)

“Age of Ultron”, that’s the real deal, my friends!

439. Red Dead Ryan - January 13, 2015

“Ant-Man”!

http://www.movies.com/movie-news/ant-man-poster/17573

440. CmdrR - January 13, 2015

There’s only one super-hero franchise worth my $13.50 ($17.50 for 3-D):

http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/12/7532001/japanese-spiderman-series-streaming-marvel

441. Red Dead Ryan - January 13, 2015

#440.

That looks like a live-action version of a “Simpsons” parody.

Aye carumba!

442. Harry Ballz - January 14, 2015

Take a look at post 1231 on the 2016 thread. Orci is still harping about our feud.

I feel like telling him, “Let it go, Bob. I have.”

443. Disinvited - January 14, 2015

#442. Harry Ballz – January 14, 2015

I’m still mulling over the big reveal that he regards his life’s blood professional output as “trivial.”

If, fundamentally, Bob Orci doesn’t respect what results from his efforts, how the hell does he expect to convince anyone else of its significance?

As for that which Bob won’t let go, it still shocks me knowing what he said in the past about Gerrold and that he has your email address, that he didn’t just blast you in email instead of what he said that he would not do to a fellow writer?

And now he’s working on a carefully worded apology? What’s he doing? Running it by legal? I wonder what his blast would have looked like if he had the forethought to do that then?

Maybe he’s just letting his better half level his head. At least, I hope it is that.

444. CmdrR - January 14, 2015

Harry is white on the right side.
Roberto is black on the right side and chortles like The Riddler.

This may not end well.

445. Phil - January 14, 2015

Sir Patrick may annoy me any time he choses…

https://www.yahoo.com/travel/jimmy-kimmel-has-a-way-of-saying-what-were-all-108088041822.html

Actually, I have a story. This was a while back, my boss (previous employer) calls me into his office – and says, you won’t believe this: I got bumped to first class (the guy did travel a lot), and I thought I recognized the voice of the guy next to me….sure enough, Patrick Stewart. Was even nice enough to sign an autograph. It was interesting that he chose to share that little adventure with me, considering that he really wasn’t that pleasant of a human being to work for….

446. AJ - January 14, 2015

442:

Harry:

I suggest you tell him, on that thread, if you “feel like” it. And then don’t ever mention it again.

Of course, now we’re all waiting for the “apology” coming soon, whatever that means.

447. Disinvited - January 14, 2015

# 445. Phil – January 14, 2015

“It was interesting that he chose to share that little adventure with me, considering that he really wasn’t that pleasant of a human being to work for….” — Phi

What I find telling is he knew enough about you to know that you’d be interested in the story but didn’t think enough of this employee to get you an autograph too or give you the one he got.

448. Red Dead Ryan - January 14, 2015

I’ve only read about half the comments on the “2016” thread. The conversation sure went off the rails in a really ugly fashion.

Bob has been pretty calm on the boards for the most part ever since he first posted, but I guess some of the rude and crude posters have finally managed get to him. Either that, or he’s just revealed his true self.

I don’t know.

449. Harry Ballz - January 14, 2015

RDR

here’s the thing….I was one of many who strongly criticized STID. Some other people, in the many months gone by, went into mind-numbing specifics about how bad it was as a movie. I truly believe some people posting on this site were a lot harsher than me with their comments regarding STID.

So, with that in mind, why did Bob single me out for the shitstorm? I obviously touched a nerve.

450. Red Dead Ryan - January 14, 2015

Harry,

He also slammed your script. I was thinking for a bit that it might have been an imposter, but I scrolled down and read Matt Wright’s post stating that it was indeed Bob.

It’s a good bet that not all is well in paradise.

451. Harry Ballz - January 14, 2015

I’m beginning to suspect that Bob is bipolar.

452. PaulB - January 15, 2015

#443 Disinvited: “And now he’s working on a carefully worded apology? What’s he doing? Running it by legal?”

Orci’s either trying to find a real writer to do his apology for him, or he’s looking at other people’s apologies to find parts to cut & paste into his own.

One thing is certain: Orci is showing zero class. He is representing the Star Trek brand, and he is being an a-hole about it.

I don’t care what his personal problems are, he should be able to behave like a professional.

453. Cmdrr - January 15, 2015

AJ – am I the only one who reads “Hold your breath” as a mean-spirited version of “don’t hold your breath”?
Sounded to me like Orci was telling Harry to drop dead.

454. Disinvited - January 15, 2015

# 452. Cmdrr – January 15, 2015

“Just hold your breath. Apology coming soon.” – Bob Orci

Seems clear to me he means the opposite of your “don’t hold your breath”.

Does it come across as a rude introduction to announce that he is planning to apologize? Perhaps, but I think he was sincerely trying to deflate his ego balloon with a little humor.

455. CmdrR - January 15, 2015

Disinvited — and I’m really not arguing with you, just trying to understand the mind of Orci — this was an earlier post in the same thread which was echoed many times before Boborci’s comment:

463. Dennis – December 29, 2014
@442. Ahmed

Go ahead, hold your breath waiting for that Captain Worf TV series. The so-called Prime Universe is poised to return. LOL

Para’s covered by Sam Irwin’s “even a blind pig finds an acorn now and again” principle. Quite a little cult, though.

To me, I see: “Hold your breath and die, you idiot. How do you keep an idiot in suspense? I’ll tell you later. So, yeah, I will apologize soon so keep waiting because it should take me really much time at all to type “I’m sorry” but I just don’t have the time right now but keep watching this thread!!”

456. Mike Barnett - January 15, 2015

451. Harry Ballz
“I’m beginning to suspect that Bob is bipolar”

Dr. Ballz, I have a sore throat with a minor fever. Do I have to flu? Thanks in advance for your diagnosis.

457. Mike Barnett - January 15, 2015

*the*
My illness must be getting to me.

458. Disinvited - January 15, 2015

#455. CmdrR – January 15, 2015

Ok, I now understand your reasoning. But Bob told Mike Hall to hold his breath and not Harry. So it could be, under your interpretation, he was telling Mike to drop dead. Now I’ve got to reread Mike’s posts wrote to see what Orci’s beef might be with him

459. Silvereyes - January 15, 2015

458 Disinvited, you’re over-analysing. I’m with CmdrR, Orci’s comment is sarcastic, in an a$$hole kind of way.

456 Mike Barnett, you don’t have to be a doctor to make a comment like Harry did. We all get what he means, and that he’s not making an official medical diagnosis.

Orci is representing the franchise, and needs to watch what he says and how he says it. It’s called being professional and diplomatic. He’s behaving like a vindictive 13 year old mean girl. Now I really want to see a movie written by this idiot (more sarcasm).

See? this is not helping Star Trek. My guess is he’s already fired and has nothing to lose.

460. CmdrR - January 15, 2015

As to diagnosing Boborci’s condition… I’m certainly not going to throw away my imaginary medical degree and call him bipolar. I might be willing to go with sphincteramus giganticus, but would equally be willing to bet on him being part drankalottascotchelopod or suffering from what Freud dubbed Wunderkind-go-boom Syndrome.

I admire Bob’s ability with the tools of Hollywood. I do not see a “vision” in his work, however, and that is sorely needed for Star Trek. I have openly challenged him to go for a vision in this 3rd movie. Maybe he did. Maybe the suits said “Hello no, Bob!” We don’t know.

I do know that dickishness is not a helpful trait no matter where one is in life.

461. Harry Ballz - January 15, 2015

Hmmm, my post got censored. It had a word in it that rhymed with “dick”.

462. Harry Ballz - January 15, 2015

Whoops, spoke too soon! There it is!

463. Red Dead Ryan - January 15, 2015

Reminded of that hip-hop song from the early nineties:

(sings)

“WHOOPS….THERE IT IS!……

WHOOPS…..THERE IT IS!…..”

464. Disinvited - January 15, 2015

#460. CmdrR – January 15, 2015

You know Harry, when he says bipolar he’s not referring to his mental state.

465. Harry Ballz - January 15, 2015

And now it’s gone again.

I was referring to a certain person as an arrogant little pr**k.

Three guesses who!

466. CmdrR - January 15, 2015

464 – Disinvited. Hmmmm, so THAT explains why Harry got caught trying to break IN to a penal colony.

467. AJ - January 15, 2015

Is Bob the new Erica Durance?

468. Harry Ballz - January 15, 2015

AJ, if neither had made it in Hollywood, Durance would be a hostess at Denny’s and Bob would be the guy selling you a bag of oranges by the on ramp to the highway.

469. Ahmed - January 15, 2015

@458. Disinvited

Hall said that Orci “owes “Mr. Ballz” an apology.” & Orci replied rather sarcastically with his “Just hold your breath. Apology coming soon.”

470. Ahmed - January 15, 2015

And that was my first comment here!

471. Harry Ballz - January 15, 2015

Welcome aboard, Ahmed! Good to have you here.

472. Ahmed - January 15, 2015

Thanks, Harry :)

473. Spockchick - January 16, 2015

hey Ahmed! Greetings from Scotty-land :-)

474. Disinvited - January 16, 2015

#469. Ahmed – January 15, 2015

Yeah, I see this angle now.

I keep trying to find an another one for his redemption like maybe he took a peek here on The Moderators open suggestion and didn’t like what he saw Harry saying. But Bob doesn’t strike me as the sort of guy who’d waste time moving his retribution over to another thread. I’d fully expect he couldn’t contain it and would blast him here if that were the case.

Maybe Cyg is right and Orci’s 15 minutes of fame is spent in Hollywood movies? Rejected for Spider-man. Rejected for Trek. I wonder if subconsciously he’s gearing up to burn his movie bridges?

I’d like to see his rejected script published a la Ellison.so as to resolve what Paramount’s bug-a-boo about it was. I know this is a new Paramount but I don’t think most studios care one wit about plagiarism suits believing they can wear the average writer’s economic power down in legal expenses long before it can threaten their bottom line. As revealed by Paramount in their Art Buchwald $150,000 settlement:

“This decision is a victory for Paramount and clearly a loss for Buchwald and Bernheim [He got $750,000]. Their lawyers spent more than $2.5 million and three years for this award.” — John Scanlon, Paramount spokesman

475. Aurore - January 16, 2015

“Is Bob the new Erica Durance?”

____________

:))

Aaaaaaaaaaanyway….

@ 468. Mr. Ballz.

What you said was just….so mean…so…”DISRESPECTFUL”…

YOU owe Mr. Orci an apology.

Apologise to him. Do it . Soon.

:)

476. CmdrR - January 16, 2015

Aurore, as a wise man once said:

444. CmdrR – January 14, 2015
Harry is white on the right side.
Roberto is black on the right side and chortles like The Riddler.

This may not end well.

I am not holding MY breath.

477. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 16, 2015

Ahmed. A Personal Welcome from the Emperor of the Terran Empire

478. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 16, 2015

Careful Harry on Holding your Breath to long. You might have visions of Erica.

479. Phil - January 16, 2015

Science Friday – NASA’s MRO has discovered what was thought to be Britain’s long lost Beagle 2 lander. Turns out it actually landed successfully, but did not completely deploy.

Am I the only one who misses the science Saturday feature?

480. Red Dead Ryan - January 16, 2015

Yeah, I miss the Science Saturday article too. It’s also regrettable that we’ve stopped getting the Sci-Fi news articles a few years ago.

Ah, well. At least we can continue to b#tch about the lack of anything new in Star Trek.

481. Phil - January 16, 2015

Apparently it’s the 10th anniversary of the airing of the first episode of BSG. The articles showing up are making the inevitable comparisons to Trek, and what RM was able to do on BSG that he wasn’t able to do with Trek. I’d guess there is probably a study in contrasts there, between RM’s BSG and JJ’s Trek, as both attempted to create something a bit different then the original.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2015/01/14/battlestar-galactica-anniversary-decade-33-pilot/

482. CmdrR - January 17, 2015

It’s about frickin’ time!
I tracked down the details on the third movie:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/ian-ziering-and-tara-reid-set-for-%E2%80%98sharknado-3%E2%80%B2/ar-AA8cPxz?ocid=ansDeadline11

483. crazydaystrom - January 17, 2015

482. CmdrR

That was just a bit of sadistic cruelty!!!

484. Spockchick - January 18, 2015

@481 Phil

Thanks for that link, it was really interesting. I can’t believe it’s 10 years! Possibly my favourite piece of modern Tv ever. It is pitch perfect in many ways and as real sci-fi should be: using science fiction to explore the contemporary mores and politics. And the low budget spawned incredible creativity, as constraint always does. Too much budget often results in too little brains.

485. CmdrR - January 18, 2015

483 – In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny, “Ain’t I a stinker?”

I notice there’s no histrionics on the set of THAT sequel… and they’re working with frickin’ sharks!

486. CmdrR - January 18, 2015

Giant frozen balls beyond Uranus!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/hidden-planets-beyond-pluto-possible-says-new-study/ar-AA8hsM8

487. CmdrR - January 18, 2015

Sir Patrick has been X’d-out.

http://uproxx.com/gammasquad/2015/01/patrick-stewart-ian-mckellen-not-in-x-men-apocalypse/

488. Red Dead Ryan - January 18, 2015

#487.

We’ll see.

489. Phil - January 19, 2015

@487. At some point, there may be some wisdom is dialing down the cast and focusing on the story, as opposed to creating a film where the attempt is made to shove in as many characters as possible. I can’t shake the feeling that DC/WB trying to do this with their upcoming Batman/Superman movies is going to backfire, coming across as nothing more then a desperate attempt to play catch up to Disney/Marvel. The last X-Men movie I saw in theaters was The Last Stand. Marvel’s Avengers was the last trip to the theater I made for that franchise…..and I think I attribute that to CGI fatigue. I’d be the last person to suggest that I represent the average movie-goer, but when all that’s being offered is spectacle, after a while the response is going to be indifference. I enjoyed Mad Max, but the reboot seems to be a CGI driven spectacular…and I have no desire to partake.

490. CmdrR - January 19, 2015

489 –
I agree with your points, Phil. I would only add that, to me, spectacle has to have real world roots. I absolutely have seen all the fake cg flames, explosions, planets going boom, guys bouncing amongst buildings, etc. that I care to. If I don’t believe a single frame of the action, it’s just visual noise. I really prefer practical effects or a clever mix.

491. Phil - January 19, 2015

@490. Finally caught The Lone Ranger on cable, remembering that I had asked here just how in the hell do you spend 250MM on a western? Well, load the flick up with CGI nonsense, that’s how. Horses in trees, locomotives doing things no locomotive ever did, carnivorous bunnies, well, as you said, visual noise. The funny thing is, take all that crap out and you had a passable movie.

492. Red Dead Ryan - January 19, 2015

“The Lone Ranger” looked good visually, but the story and acting stunk, apart from Tom Wilkinson.

I really like the Hans Zimmer score, though.

493. Marja - January 19, 2015

470 Ahmed, A belated “WELCOME to the nut house* “, friend!

*with all due respect to Mr Ballz

494. AJ - January 19, 2015

489:

Phil, as fan of Superman 1978, I can say that not having any new Superman films in the offing is terrible, but what’s worse is what’s coming. I don’t care much for Batman, but the other DC Superheroes (Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Green Lantern, Flash) are just silly and dated. Flash and Green Arrow seem to work for fans on TV, but as you say, DC\Warner is just shoving in as many as possible now to make up lost ground on Marvel/Disney. It’ll be like Kirk and Spock in the older films, plus all the others vying for screentime.

Also, sorry, but Aquaman has been so destroyed for me as a serious film property due to Family Guy parodies and Entourage, and seeing Jason Momoa from Game of Thrones play him is just going to be so “WTF” for me, that I will have no reason to care.

495. CmdrR - January 19, 2015

AJ — I had to look up Jason Momoa — I’m just not as good a fanboy as I should be. OK, he played Khal Drogo in GoT. Gotcha. Also see he was Ronon on Stargate: Atlantis, which is what I’m guessing landed him as The Man from Atlantis — oops, wrong show/wrong decade. Anyway — I was also not a fan of Aquaman, but I will say the Justice League animated features have gone a long way to reforming that character and WonderWoman into something general audiences might take seriously. Well, as seriously as they can take a guy who talks to lobsters. (I squid you not! That’s in the new animated flick.) What I find difficult to take in any version is that Superman at any point EVER needs back-up. Especially since the movies have basically turned Supes into Space Jesus.

496. Phil - January 19, 2015

Yeah, Man of Steel really did load up on the Messiah references. I suppose calling them Easter eggs would be a tad sacrilegious …..

497. Harry Ballz - January 19, 2015

@ 494-496

(best Beavis&Butthead imitation)

HEH! HEH HEH! HEH!

498. AJ - January 20, 2015

Hah! Harry got a Superman boner again!

499. Marja - January 20, 2015

I will probably go see “Wonder Woman,” even though I think the casting is all wrong [typical anorexic actress] — she should be built like an Amazon, not a ballet dancer.

As for the rest, I couldn’t care less, especially after the overextended, endless “Man of Steel.” And, as pointed out above, why would Supes need any assistance from anyone …?

Some of these extensions of comic book franchises make no sense. At least Marvel makes it fun/funny. But even that is getting wearying with all the CGI. Endlessly booooooring.

500. Marja - January 20, 2015

The aptly named Kevin Malarkey has just withdrawn his book about his son [who was in an auto accident, and according to his dad’s account, saw angels and had a visit with Jesus] from Tyndale House publication: “The Boy Who Came Back from Heaven.”

501. CmdrR - January 20, 2015

Happy Birthday, DeForest “Bones” Kelley.
Hypos of happy juice all ’round!

502. Phil - January 20, 2015

In recent years, the comics/movies have made Supes pretty vulnerable. Despite Krypton being a long way away, there seems to be plenty of Kryptonite on mother Earth…and apparently it can be manufactured now, as well. There seems to be some question about how quickly he powers down after sunset, and apparently he’s pretty normal in a Kryptonian atmosphere.

I don’t recall ever having a Mint Julep, Dr. McCoy. Not even sure where I’d find one in southern California….

503. Red Dead Ryan - January 20, 2015

FOX is considering bringing back “The X-Files” on tv, with Gillian Anderson and David Duchnovy reprising Scully and Mulder.

Not sure I’d wager anything at this point, though.

504. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 20, 2015

Found this Really weel done Fan Edit of the Classic Battlestar Galactia. If you loved the old series. You will love this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O194x48XaT8

505. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 20, 2015

This is the Fan Edit I have ever seen.
Battlestar Galactia 1980 as it should have been and as Galactica Series should have ended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O194x48XaT8

506. AJ - January 21, 2015

Benedict Cumberbatch continues to get more famous by being funny…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYKdmjq5lyg

507. CmdrR - January 21, 2015

Emperor Mike —
Fake beard, bowl-cut child genius, no Apollo, no Starbuck (except for one ep with a painful ending) and scaled-back sfx.

Yikes. Galactica 1980 had ALMOST receded from my memory.

Check Richard Hatch’s pitch for a new series (which predates RM’s by about 5 years):

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=galactica+the+second+coming&FORM=VIRE2#view=detail&mid=55C04232D5C8C34F771C55C04232D5C8C34F771C

508. Phil - January 21, 2015

Galactica 1980…..oh, boy. There is an interesting tidbit on Wikipedia, though. Donald Bellisario’s original pitch for the show was for Starbuck and Apollo to be time traveling around earth’s history. The studio said no, and Bellisario re-tooled the concept to make Quantum Leap. No idea how much truth there is to that, but it is interesting.

509. Disinvited - January 21, 2015

# 508. Phil – January 21, 2015

” Galactica 1980…..oh, boy. There is an interesting tidbit on Wikipedia, though. Donald Bellisario’s original pitch for the show was for Starbuck and Apollo to be time traveling around earth’s history. The studio said no, and Bellisario re-tooled the concept to make Quantum Leap. No idea how much truth there is to that, but it is interesting.” — Phil

More than you know as the 1980 series actually had the grown-up stepson of Apollo and his best bud do just that in chasing the bad guy, Xavier, through Earth’s history. It was clear that it was the setup for this a series arc and only got cut short when it was clear renewal wasn’t in the cards.

510. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 21, 2015

Hey guys. If you watch the fan edit and what he did you will be amazed. I hated the 1980 verson. But this one is also complete with some extra cgi and the way he edited it. You don’t see the crap. What you will see is the cyclone attacking earth. Not just the bit in la. But New York London and even jets takeing them on. Even the cylon base ship attacks earth. I’m telling you. This is how galactica should have ended. It also has the ship of lights in it. Also some clever editing of footage of other movies and some decent cgi.

511. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 21, 2015

Beam me up Scotty!!!

512. AJ - January 21, 2015

Star Trek: Two Hours in Engineering

513. AJ - January 21, 2015

Thoughts making the rounds on Trek’s 50th:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-bradley/star-treks-troubling-50th-anniversary_b_6493002.html

514. CmdrR - January 21, 2015

Totally welcome news.
This may mean a delay but even so….

Nick Frost as Harry Mudd, speaking to the Klingons: “Hullo, ya c¥n+s!”

515. CmdrR - January 22, 2015

Sheesh, Harry, did you or Silvereyes design this???

http://uproxx.com/sports/2015/01/miss-canadas-national-costume-from-the-miss-universe-pageant-was-a-hockey-themed-wonder/

516. Phil - January 22, 2015

Hi, Miss Canada, we’d like you to wear this….
You. Have. To be. Kidding.

Apologies to William Shatner

517. Silvereyes - January 22, 2015

#515

20 – 14 on the scoreboard… for a hockey game? So it makes sense now. This was designed by an American!

Doesn’t fit our understated and humble disposition though…

518. CmdrR - January 22, 2015

517 – If the scoring were actually that high, maybe Atlantans would actually watch hockey instead of sending all of our hockey teams to Canada. “Ooh, Mommy, I got 3 all in the same game !!!” Sheesh.

519. AJ - January 23, 2015

As Star Trek is now reborn as a comedy, here is Shaun Cassidy mauling Ilea’s theme from TMP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txv_1m6oA6U

It’s funny, right?

520. Phil - January 23, 2015

While I do enjoy working with the general agency I’m contracted to, they do sponsor a…..curling team. I have to admit to mixed feelings here – shoving a rock across ice isn’t a sport. Except when it is.

http://www.researchwfg.com/Canada/wp-content/uploads/sponsorships.jpg

Yeah, yeah, it’s a slow morning….

521. CmdrR - January 23, 2015

519 —

Uhura, motioning with twin phasers: “In case of Shuan Cassidy singing, Da Doo Run Run to the exits on either side of the starship.”

No really, that is some kind of awful!

522. CmdrR - January 23, 2015

Some old lady is making news again…

http://www.space.com/28343-star-trek-enterprise-smithsonian-restoration.html

523. Phil - January 23, 2015

Shaun Cassidy is still alive?

524. crazydaystrom - January 23, 2015

522. CmdrR – January 23, 2015

“Some old lady is making news again…”

A beloved old lady for sure. I pray they do right by her.

Thanks CmdrR.

525. Cygnus-X1 - January 24, 2015

Why do the Gorn rarely leave their homes?

526. CmdrR - January 24, 2015

525 — O Lord…

Why?

527. Phil - January 24, 2015

Why, I don’t know. Why do the Gorn rarely leave their homes?

Sorry, couldn’t think of a witty ‘knock knock’ joke reply…

528. Cygnus-X1 - January 24, 2015

Because they tend to be agornaphobic.

529. Harry Ballz - January 24, 2015

I thought they don’t go out because they’re afraid of catching GORN-ARREA!

530. Ahmed - January 24, 2015

@528. Cygnus-X1

Ha!

Reminds of the Spacers in “The Naked Sun” with their acute agoraphobia.

There is also a Spanish science fiction movie that came out last year “Los Últimos Días” aka “The Last Days” where most of the human race came down with agoraphobia! The breakdown of society due to that was done very well. You guys should check it out, it is available on Netflix.

531. Cygnus-X1 - January 24, 2015

Harry, that’s why they’re so strict about wearing condoms.

Even when making their Gorno movies.

Ahmed, I’ve added it to my queue.

532. CmdrR - January 25, 2015

I admit, I watched a Gorno back in college. The actors moved so slowly! Then they smoked a meal worm afterwards. No thanks!

533. PaulB - January 25, 2015

Gorno actors never get rich. They get paid scale.

534. AJ - January 25, 2015

Haven’t seen too many gornos: I caught “Gorn with the Wind” and “Gorn in 60 Seconds.”

535. Harry Ballz - January 25, 2015

Well, I just called Orci “a spoiled arrogant child” over on the Pegg thread.

536. Ahmed - January 25, 2015

Harry,

Prepare yourself for an onslaught from Keachick, the self-appointed defender of Orci :)

537. CmdrR - January 25, 2015

I’d be very surprised to see boborci or his Mirror Universe twin, Boborci (with the goatee and uppercase B) show up again in these threads. Harry, nothing you say/do can hurt Orci worse than having his directorial debut yanked out from under him. I would be surprised indeed if Orci is a presence on Trek at all from now on. Oh, he’s not to be pitied. He can still put together projects for decades to come just by name-dropping Transformers and ST09 among others. But, he’s been publicly humiliated. And unless “The Mummy” is a crapload better than it has a right to be… or “Van Helsing”… or “Now You See Me: The Second Act” (don’t get me started on what a piece of shite the first one was)… then, at 42, Orci has got to be wondering whether he’s still the “wunderkind” he was five years ago.

538. CmdrR - January 25, 2015

And now for something completely different, a man pulling on his shirt.

http://uproxx.com/gammasquad/2015/01/video-supercut-demonstrates-picard-maneuver-from-star-trek-the-next-generation/

539. AJ - January 25, 2015

Some “Aliens” humor from The Oatmeal:

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/aliens_b_word

540. Harry Ballz - January 25, 2015

@537

CmdrR, to be blunt, Orci started in TV and probably should have stayed there.

He got way above his pay grade and has now gotten burnt.

With his kind of arrogance, I’d like to see him relegated to doing TV commercials!

541. CmdrR - January 26, 2015

Harry — Please wish that on me, as well. I could use the millions!

542. AJ - January 26, 2015

This weekend, I watched a marathon of back-to-back Russian TV shows detailing endlessly how the US was the enemy of Russia: US Navy end-runs around the Black Sea fleet, an arms race in the air, US financing of dictators in Latin America as a precursor to our obedient ‘puppet regime’ in Kiev, which has co-opted that country’s fascists to oppose the brave pro-Russian freedom fighters in the East. I frankly haven’t seen propaganda of this type in Russia since the 1980s.

Meanwhile, those same separatists declare they will “take no prisoners” as they open a new front in Mariupol, and then, once they’ve killed 30 people, including children, blame the Ukrainian side for mistakenly opening fire first during an attack they openly declared before the shooting started.

The whole country is crumbling financially. It’s just amazing to me how docile and gullible the population is here. Their leaders tell them to “eat less” and prepare for a long time of troubles while their leadership displays brazen incompetence, running Russia into the ground and modernizing its military while its population dies out due to lack of births.

Then, the Russians get officially offended when Obama (Public Enemy No.1) lumps them in with Ebola on his list of priorities, when the Russians portray him and the USA as supremely focused on Ukraine and the undermining of Russia as top priority. Russians ask me what the Americans think about the whole thing, and I answer “most of us don’t even care, because we don’t really know much about it. Not a national priority. And our gas prices are low.”

Truly a ‘twilight zone’ over here.

543. CmdrR - January 26, 2015

AJ — I wish I could say U.S. politicians were more capable or that U.S. voters were less gullible, but it ain’t so. I seriously wonder whether there isn’t a mechanism in our brains that when we get too much food and breed to heavily, we get stupider so large numbers can die out. I seriously hope that doesn’t involve war and nukes and a dozen other man-made nightmares.

544. AJ - January 26, 2015

CmdrR: I’ve spent so much time here, and Russia at this time, despite its long and varied history, is today simply like the drunk who doesn’t think he has a problem, and who is surrounded by friends and loved ones who overwhelmingly do.

It’s annoying to see such a large group of intelligent people get convinced by poorly produced TV that the world works a certain way, and back a leader (85% approval) who would be hanging (theoretically) from a gibbet with all his cronies at this point in any other free society. I guess we have our FOX News crowd, and as you say, we may live simply to breed cannon fodder for whatever wars the leaders can dream up to steal natural resources.

545. CmdrR - January 26, 2015

AJ, you mention the media. In Russia, it seems as though Putin has his gov’t mouthpiece putting out “poorly produced” tv propaganda. Here, tv has become a pandering tool desperately trying to compete with the internet; ignoring info dense investigations in favor of celeb-driven dreck and crime-intense, easy-to-get distractions.

On the political front, the GOP is seriously reassembling the cast of Loserama 2012 for a sequel next year. Trump, Romney, and Palin included!! On the Dems, it’s all Hillary all the time. The prospect of facing off with any of these must give Putin a hard-on that’s visible from space.

546. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 26, 2015

Good Morning Campers.
To the ones in the Northeast U.S
Good Morning my Frozen Firends.
For any Aussies. Happy Austrailia Day.
For the Empire. Happy Agony Booth Day.

547. Ahmed - January 26, 2015

@ 540. Harry Ballz – January 25, 2015

“CmdrR, to be blunt, Orci started in TV and probably should have stayed there.”

Even on the TV front, he is having some problems.

His new series “Matador” on El Rey was renewed for a second season & then weeks later, the network canceled it!

On Fox, “Sleepy Hollow” is having serious ratings problems & the executives weren’t happy & made it clear this last week. The show now is on the bubble.

The only good news that CBS renewed his other new show “Scorpion”

548. Emperor Mike of the Terren Empire - January 26, 2015

Well Hawaii Five O is doing well. But thats about it for Orci.

549. Ahmed - January 26, 2015

@548. Emperor Mike of the Terren Empire,

I was following the other series that I mentioned & totally forgot about Hawaii Five-0 which I stopped watching after the 2nd season.

550. Disinvited - January 26, 2015

# 547. Ahmed – January 26, 2015

” The only good news that CBS renewed his other new show “Scorpion.” — Ahmed

Hmmm… I know he had no say over scheduling but you DO know that SCORPION is on the same time as SLEEPY HOLLOW? Seems fate has allowed him to shoot himself in the foot with that one.

551. Ahmed - January 26, 2015

@550. Disinvited,

Hilarious!

I rarely watch shows on live TV, usually catch them On Demand.

552. Cygnus-X1 - January 26, 2015

Regarding Russia and Putin, the brain-drain and capital flight out of Russia since the invasion of Ukrain (and the consequent trade sanctions by the US and Europe) indicates that, at least, the professionals and people with money aren’t buying the State propaganda.

And with oil now bringing in only half of what the Russian economy needs it to bring in, the Ruble is losing value quickly. Putin has raised interest rates and told companies not to trade Rubles in a desperate measure to keep inflation under control, but the Russian economy is sliding fast into a long-term depression. Let’s see what happens to Putin’s poll numbers after a year of economic depression in Russia with no end in sight.

553. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 26, 2015

Anyone want to spend $40 to $60k for a Hand Phaser used on the Orignal Series. Here is the link

http://www.cnet.com/news/crazy-rare-classic-star-trek-phaser-goes-up-for-auction/#ftag=YHF65cbda0

554. CmdrR - January 27, 2015

553 — The control buttons are missing! That phaser is stuck on “kill.”
Actually, what I think is hilarious is down below, they offer us the chance to buy Wesley’s early seasons sweater. BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!!!!

555. Silvereyes - January 27, 2015

#552 Cygnus

As a beloved hero once said:

“I’m glad you’re here to tell us these things… Take the professor in the back and plug him into the hyperdrive!”

556. Marja - January 27, 2015

545 CmdrR i would laugh but it’s scary tragic and sad. I was watching a Frontline about Putin’s Russia and laughed sadly at the parallels to the near future I see for the US. MONEY buying govt influence and corruption everywhere.

547 Ahmed Remember how we were saying Orci was too overtasked? Maybe not for very much longer. Sad for Bob but a good object lesson I suppose.

Sorry I’ve been scarce. Need to get myself and computer to WiFi hotspot when my health improves :-p

Personally I am optimistic about Pegg cowriting Trek3.

557. CmdrR - January 27, 2015

Marja — Wishing you a speedy recovery. I hope it’s nothing you caught in this chat… although they have shots for that.

TPTB want a world gov’t… not for brotherhood and freedom, but because the 1% of the 1% want to own the whole frakkin’ thing even as they poison it.

558. AJ - January 28, 2015

Well, those who listen to the Russian propaganda and believe are NOT the ones parking their dollars overseas.

Keeping the masses occupied with “bread and circuses” is an age-old way of jerking off the masses while those in control do their thing. What sucks here is that people I know who would generally be onto it have fallen hook line and sinker for the party line; they pull State-sponsored false “facts” and events out of their backsides which make them sound suddenly insane during a normal conversation.

Russia could so easily reverse course, but as Madeleine Albright once taught us as a substitute professor while I was at Georgetown, all foreign policy has domestic roots: distract them with Crimea now because you know they’re all in for a long-term oil-price crisis. Manage your rich allies (highlight the ones bringing their dollars back; have the State pay back the oligarchs for money seized overseas) and screw your rich enemies.

Also, our bad is NATO getting too close for comfort, though it’s an alliance which seems to have lost its relevance now seeming relevant again. Go figure.

559. CmdrR - January 28, 2015

At least Starfleet is honest.
Hey, what’s that beer bottle opener on Admiral Robocop’s desk that looks like a starship… and what happened to the funding for exploration??

560. Disinvited - January 28, 2015

#556. Marja – January 27, 2015

Get well soon. What’s hi name is coming through town to tellyou all how the VA can actually help with that, now.

Enterntainment news from television says Sony has hired Kristen Wiig to write, direct and star in their next sequel in the GHOSTBUSTERS franchise.

Hope she doesn’t squander the opportunity to turn some of the standard stereotypes about female scientists on their ears.

561. Harry Ballz - January 28, 2015

@560

I’m so sick of Melissa McCarthy! A little of her goes a LONG way!

She is maybe funny as a supporting character, but NOT as a lead.

I’m SO sorry she is cast in the next Ghostbusters. Jesus!

562. Cygnus-X1 - January 28, 2015

Get well soon, Marja!!

While you’re convalescing, maybe you can figure out where this weird sound comes from: when Kirk does his WALL OF DESTRUCTION drop-kick, as the Andorian is knocked to the floor, there’s a sudden sort of *thump* that sounds like hitting an empty plastic container with a metal spoon. If I’m not mistaken, that sound effect has been eliminated from the re-mastered version. Here is, I believe, the original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSHCNTELFI8

563. Red Dead Ryan - January 28, 2015

The original “Ghostbusters” movies are way overrated, so I have no problem with an all-female reboot. They really aren’t that good, even though I used to like them when I was a kid twenty five years ago. The fanboys have gone bonkers on the interwebs.

The director deserves a lot of credit for going against the Hollywood norms of male-only leads in blockbuster movies.

564. AJ - January 28, 2015

563/RDR:

There are no “Ghostbusters movies.” There is only “Ghostbusters.”

And re-booting a profitable ’80s franchise with a gaggle of SNL castmembers is hardly “going against Hollywood norms.”

Kristen Wiig is ridiculously funny, and as soon as I get over my current conniption over the reboot NOT having original cast members (you are right about that), I will begin looking forward to the film. At least it’s based in New York; the original is considered one of the “great” NYC films.

565. Phil - January 28, 2015

@563. No issues with the first one, the problem being the story really didn’t lend itself to sequels – Ghostbusters II Now, With Even Bigger, Badder Ghosts! Hate to say it, the all girl Ghostbusters is going to have a similar problem that STID had – if all they are doing is dropping women into the same (or similar) story, it’s going to have a ‘been there, done that’ feel….

566. Cygnus-X1 - January 28, 2015

If there’s a steady paycheck in it, I’ll believe anything you say.

567. Marja - January 28, 2015

562 Cygnus … or a wooden spoon … Thanks … laughter is the best medicine!
————–

Thanks all for your good wishes. I have a weird fever that has been coming and going over the last few weeks. Pon farr?

568. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - January 28, 2015

Ghostbusters with all females.

Actually. Ghostbustets. Lol.

569. Red Dead Ryan - January 28, 2015

Yeah, I definitely agree that “Ghostbusters” should have been a one-off.

But, they aren’t rebooting it for us, they’re doing it for the new generation of moviegoers.

Bill Murray, as great an actor as he is, wouldn’t draw too many into the theatres.

If I’m not mistaken, “Back To The Future” is also getting a reboot. Not sure why, though. Those movies hold up pretty well, despite some mis-prognostications.

570. Disinvited - January 29, 2015

# 568. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire – January 28, 2015

” Actually. Ghostbustets. Lol.” — Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire

I’ve been debating with myself as to whether Kristen will or won’t do a “Ghostdusters” [sic] gag.

571. AJ - January 29, 2015

“Ted 2″ Trailer.

Guaranteed Seth McFarlane will say he ripped off (“was inspired by”) the premise from TNG “The Measure of a Man.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3AVcCggRnU

Looks terrible.

572. Cygnus-X1 - January 29, 2015

567. Marja – January 28, 2015

I have a weird fever that has been coming and going over the last few weeks. Pon farr?

And that brings us to this YouTube clip, which has been around for several years now, but holds up rather well, I think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uxTpyCdriY

573. Cygnus-X1 - January 29, 2015

571. AJ – January 29, 2015

That Ted sequel does look stereotypically less good than the original.

Though, that courtroom scene is kinda funny. And Samuel L. Jackson is the black guy in every movie is a line in a movie where Morgan Freeman is the black guy. This one might be OK to see under the influence a bit after 4 o’clock and a few drinks, but I definitely won’t see it sober.

574. Cygnus-X1 - January 29, 2015

P.S.

He’s definitely ripping off Measure of a Man. Also, that sperm bank scene where Marky Mark knocks all of the specimen containers onto himself was a bit in a Family Guy episode.

575. CmdrR - January 29, 2015

571 – AJ,

What happened to Sir Patrick? Who the hell is the generic Brit narrator?? Also, did I miss Mila or is she missing this film??

Also, the poster. Ted is — urm — making bear gravy. In the first movie Norah Jones specifically points out that he has no junk, to which Ted replies that he’s written Mattel many angry letters about that. So… what is he knocking the stuffin’ out of??

Actually, the movie could be cute. It all depends on whether they caught McFarlane on a day when he gave a poo.

I will give Gonadbusters — urm — Bustergirls — urm — Ghostbusts — urm — that movie that’s a reboot of something that made money 30 years ago — a chance. I lurve Kristen Wiig and am hoping Melissa McCarthy stops shy of poaching Sarah Silverman’s territory of grossness, as she has in too many of her appearances.

576. CmdrR - January 29, 2015

OK, listened again. That may be Sir Patrick’s voice… but it’s almost as if it’s played at the wrong speed or he phoned it in (possible) at 3 a.m.. Also checked and Mila is in the sequel, albeit way down in the credits. So, thinking Elizabeth Hurley in Austin Powers II.

577. Phil - January 29, 2015

Mila apparently had the good sense, or a prior commitment, to take a pass on Ted 2. Michael Dorn has a role, apparently the Captain Worf pitch didn’t go quite as well as he thought it would.

It seems like the Hollywood Reboot Mill is grinding on overdrive right now. Ghostbustiers, Really Mad Max, Fantastic Foursome, etc….yeah, I know the entertainment industry is a wasteland, but you’d think they’d at least try to do something interesting.

Speaking of interesting, there is apparently an Ebola case in Northern California, so at least we’ll have a few weeks of hysteria on the national news channels…..

578. CmdrR - January 29, 2015

Phil — You’re right (and some of the ent reporters are wrong) that Mila is NOT in the film. Along with Picard and Worf, you do get Major Kira and a boatload of ComicCon attendees.

579. Red Dead Ryan - January 29, 2015

I saw that “Ted 2″ clip earlier today. Doesn’t look as good as the first, but will see it anyway.

Stephen Collins had been fired from the film during production when news broke that he’s a pedophile.

580. TrekMadeMeWonder - January 29, 2015

Am I the only one that thinks the new Age of Ultron just seems just…. a little bit hollow.

I know. I know. How could I say that?

But, I mean, I am just not getting the vibe that this is going to be an amazing movie.
Which is weird. How could it miss. It just looks a bit too “formula” for me so far.

One of the small things that bother me is when Ultron appears in the trailer it looks like his robot allies explode through the wall behind him, yet it looks so cgi and pasted together and a bit uneventful. Hefully the unconnected followup shots will eliminate this feeling I have about that scene.

Although the freak-fest that will be the iron man Huik battle does look interesting and I am sure I will not miss it,

581. AJ - January 29, 2015

The latest trailer that makes me feel “hollow” is for JJ’s “Star Wars” film. I remember feeling excited when the “Phantom Menace” trailer debuted as well. And, considering how JJ scraped the bottom with STID, there is really no reason to think his version of SW won’t do the same, even with Hamill, Ford and Fisher along for the ride.

The film is “too big to fail” but as with “Episode 1,” expectations are soaring based on a one-minute trailer reel and an overload of corporate hype.

582. Ahmed - January 29, 2015

@ 581. AJ – January 29, 2015

“I remember feeling excited when the “Phantom Menace” trailer debuted as well.”

I still remember going to an Internet cafe late 1998 to watch Episode I teaser trailer. Back then we were using dial-up & with the constant buffering it took literally 45 minutes to downland the two minutes trailer! But I left that cafe very excited.

Flashforward to October 1999 when the movie was finally released in Egypt & it was such a letdown!

583. Red Dead Ryan - January 29, 2015

The new main dinosaur of “Jurassic World”, the Indominus Rex:

http://screenrant.com/jurassic-world-images-hybrid-dinosaur-indominus-rex/

584. Red Dead Ryan - January 29, 2015

I still have high hopes for the new “Star Wars” movie. J.J Abrams is a good director.

585. PaulB - January 30, 2015

#581/582 – I actually went to the theater to see “The Waterboy” just to catch the Episode I trailer on the big screen. I’ve never forgiven George Lucas for making me suffer like that just to get the crap he gave us.

586. Cygnus-X1 - January 30, 2015

I held out hope against hope that each subsequent SW prequel-sequel would get it right. But none of them did. Ep. 3 was the best, but it had plenty of cringe-inducing moments (“Noooooooo!!!!”).

I have almost no interest in Disney’s Star Wars directed by JJ Abrams. The SW bubble of my childhood has been burst. Permanently. My expectations are so low that (assuming I bother to see it in the theater), if it doesn’t have elements as cringe-inducing and annoying as Jar Jar Binks, I’ll probably walk away feeling fine about it having entertained me for a few hours. I’m not expecting that the movie will give me anything to consider or think about afterward or contain any scenes that become classics, as the original trilogy did.

JJ Abrams is a good director of individual scenes, and a good producer of the genre of movies that he produces, but he’s a very superficially-minded filmmaker who lacks the sort of vision to make a meaningful movie. The only hope for SW7 being decent is Lawrence Kasdan. If he wrote a good script, and JJ doesn’t dumb it down and pander to the audience, then it could be a good movie. But, I’m assuming that, as with most sequels, the time for SW has long passed. There’s very rarely capturing lightning in a bottle.

587. Randall Williams - January 30, 2015

With the lack of output coming from Bad Robot and absolutely no word or
interview with Justin Lin regarding the next Trek film, this is following a
rather disturbing pattern seen with other non-related filming projects
which ended up in the colliqual “Development hell” status. Projects
such as the Isaac Asimov movie “Rendevous with Rama.” I hope not.

588. Ahmed - January 30, 2015

@587. Randall Williams

I think you meant Arthur C. Clarke who wrote ‘Rendezvous with Rama’. I think it is hard for them to make that movie, after all it is a story about First Contact without any BAAAAAAAAD aliens!

589. Phil - January 30, 2015

I’m taking the liberty to reprint the chat page mission statement at the top of the page….

This page is for off-topic discussions. Usual rules of decorum apply (family friendly, no flaming, trolling, being annoying, etc).

Chat has unofficially been a bit of a sanctuary from the bickering that goes on on the main boards. It matters little to me how much one loves or hates the current incarnation of the franchise – but if you’ve made that point, repeatedly, on the main boards, it’s not necessary to drone on here about it, either.

590. AJ - January 30, 2015

Well, if it’s any consolation, both Empire and ROTJ had different ‘guest’ directors (Irwin Kershner & Richard Marquand) whose individual contributions to those films would be hard to notice.

Maybe JJ’s will be as transparent as those were. I doubt it. I don’t quite understand why he is considered a “good” director. What is his showcase piece? That Spielberg tribute with the kids? LOST? All his films just seem to be numbered franchise actioners.

On the other hand, Lucas’s direction of the prequels was quite heavy-handed, and in concert with the content and performances, they reached nauseating depths of awfulness (and made $2.5 billion).

591. Phil - January 30, 2015

Well, that’s the problem with an artistic endeavor, the very definition of good is going to have different meanings for different people. There isn’t a checklist of things to do that, once accomplished, make something good. Sometimes it just takes time for an audience to see value in a product. Abrams and Lucas are very serviceable for creating solid entertainment projects that can attract an audience – not sure either of them are suited for heavy drama. There are plenty of people who will never give an inch that Spielberg is a hack for giving us 1941 and Twilight Zone: The Movie, and never acknowledge The Color Purple or Schindlers List. As much as we’d like to think that all writing, all directing should be of the highest quality, ever, it will always be an elusive goal. I doubt George Lucas could make American Graffiti again if he wanted to. I also doubt that JJ Abrams has had the opportunity to make his yet.

592. Disinvited - January 30, 2015

#589. AJ – January 30, 2015

If the answer to your question is what got him the gigs, I’d say it would have to be ALIAS/MISSION IMPOSSIBLE are his signature pieces.

593. Ahmed - January 30, 2015

@591. Disinvited,

I’d add ‘Lost’ pilot as well. It was the most expensive TV pilot at the time & it felt like a mini movie.

594. CmdrR - January 30, 2015

Randall & Ahmed — I’d kill (well, I’d maim) to see a really well done version of Rama.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=rendezvous+with+rama&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=754B82B7BC9420C15897754B82B7BC9420C15897

Whatta ya know, the Ramans are the same folks who brought us the whale probe!

I read this book SOOOOO long ago, but remember loving it, as well as Rama II. (I have not hit books 3 & 4 and have no plans to unless someone tells me they’re great.) I think Rama II has the right plot to turn this into a mass-appeal movie. It’s got the aliens — kinda.

Anyway — It’s not happening this summer, that’s for sure.

595. Cygnus-X1 - January 30, 2015

I don’t think that JJ Abrams has an interest in making an American Graffiti.

He’s got his own, highly successful production company that churns out a lot of TV shows and movies. That’s what JJ Abrams does. He’s not an auteur filmmaker who expresses himself or presents ideas through TV or film. He’s not Francis Ford Coppola looking for a chance to make The Conversation.

JJ runs an entertainment factory for the masses. None of his products will ever be awful, and none will ever be outstanding. They’re all aimed right down the middle, designed to entertain the average person while he’s watching, but not leave him with anything to think about afterward.

When I think of JJ Abrams, I think of Lost. A very popular TV show with the appearance of being cerebral that was actually (as the writers have since admitted) shallow, superficial and meaningless—designed to fool the audience into thinking that there was meaning where, in fact, there was none.

And, if you can put aside your partisan hat for just a brief moment, you’ll see that same strategy at work in both ST09 and STID. Both movies had “confusing” plots that were designed to make the audience feel like something really smart was going on (too smart for us to “get”), but really it was just problems with the internal logic of the plot and/or a failure of explanation—flaws in the writing masquerading as elusively cerebral concepts. Consider the following specific examples:

ST09. The poorly explained time-travel plot device. Even my friends who are quicker than I am walked out of ST09 confused about the time-travel element. And there has been no shortage of people commenting at this site over the years, asking about the time-travel in ST09. Does it overwrite the entirety of canon from TOS onward? Are they in a different universe or in the past of the same universe? How can it be both? Do events in this “reality” affect the reality where Spock comes from? Etc…

The only reason that I understood it is that I’d had the benefit of Bob Orci’s very detailed explanation for months prior to seeing the movie. The fact that all of 30 seconds (I’ve timed it) are spent explaining what is actually happening with regard to the central plot premise of the story, and then only in the vaguest of terms (“an alternate reality”) which does not differentiate classic time-travel devices from the MWI time-travel in ST09 (indeed Orci stated several times that the ambiguity was intentional), was not an accident in a 2 hour movie. You think they couldn’t find an extra 60 seconds to alleviate our confusion about THE CENTRAL PLOT PREMISE OF THE STORY in a wall-to-wall action-packed 2-hour movie?

Abrams and Orci didn’t particularly want the audience to clearly understand what was happening in ST09. They wanted the benefit of confusion to redound to them, and so it did, as people walked out of the theater feeling that the movie was smart and mysterious, all because it didn’t bother explaining the central plot premise.

STID. Marcus and Khan, twists and turns. As with ST09, there’s been no shortage of people turning up at this site to remark that STID had a confusing plot. What actually happens? What was the whole thing with the torpedoes about?

If you just consider a Star Fleet admiral who’s been successfully running a covert shadow organization for years, who has access to the highest technology in Star Fleet and plenty of personnel under his command, you would think of an intelligent, plotting, deliberate, circumspect, cautious individual. He has to be cautious, by definition, in order to keep his secret organization a secret! Further, this particular cautious admiral is so cautious that he’s been plotting a preemptive war against the Klingons for some time, in aid of protecting humanity from them.

So, what does this cautious, circumspect admiral do? He takes a bunch of torpedoes containing secret, genetically-engineered cryogenically frozen human war criminals that had been drifting out in space for 300 years—highly dangerous people whom the admiral intends to kill—and gives them all to a young starship captain with the orders to fire them at a terrorist on a faraway planet—but, don’t look inside of the torpedoes, no matter what sort of abnormal issues arise from these abnormal torpedoes! Make sure you don’t look inside, or my years of extremely important planning and preparation to save the Earth will all be ruined!

And, that, right there, is the plot twist of STID simplified down so as to be easily understood. Even if you loved STID, you have to admit that it’s a stupid plot twist not worthy of the actors or the characters. It’s not hard to think of much better ways that those characters and actors could have been utilized within the framework of a general War on Terror-themed story.

But, largely owing to the fast pacing of the movie, people walked away not thinking that the plot was stupid, but rather that it was confusing. And why was it confusing? Because it was smart and went over my head. Bravo, JJ Abrams, you genius! You’ve done it again! You’ve fooled us into thinking that a failure on YOUR part was actually a failure on OUR part! BRAVO!!!

596. CmdrR - Father of LtR, who is 21 today! (I'm so FRAKKIN old) - January 30, 2015

AJ —

http://www.starwars.com/news/interviewing-kershner-a-conversation-with-the-director-of-the-empire-strikes-back

At least Kershner didn’t say, “I know what! We are guaranteed to have a hit if we take the lines word-for-word from a movie fans already love.”

597. Cygnus-X1 - January 30, 2015

Great interview. And a great example of what a director with insight into the characters can add to a movie script.

598. Phil - January 31, 2015

@595. You presume a lot. Unless JJ is whispering sweet nothings into your ear, your assumption that he has no interest in expanding his artistic horizons is sheer speculation.

Set aside my partisan hat? These little backhanded compliments continue to exhibit a pattern of thought from you that’s a little disturbing. First, it’s pretty clear you don’t actually read my posts (or anyone else’s, probably), because if you had, you couldn’t refer to me as partisan – but when your goal is to marginalize anyone who doesn’t agree with you, then reality be damned. Your constant shots at foreign audiences border on xenophobic, at best, and racist at worst – but you do what you have to do to rationalize your position, I suppose. Second, you just seem to presume the stupidity of anyone who hasn’t been properly enlightened by your wit and wisdom yet. Really, you wrote eight paragraphs to explain plot points from the previous two movies…assuming that I hadn’t seen them, perhaps? Gee, once ol’ Cyg explains to me what I really saw, then I too, will understand that BR and their minions are a cancer on the fine art of filmmaking. Right. I’ve (and many others) been incredibly consistent in my position that opinions are free to vary, understanding that Trek, like any other artistic endeavor, people are going to see in Trek whatever they value. And for that crime against the franchise, you feel free to slander, question peoples sanity, or are just off the rails with your condescension for any opinion other then your own. No one owes you an explanation for liking, or disliking the last couple of movies…yet for whatever reason you seem compelled to try and strip the joy from anyone who happened to like them, and usually in as insulting a fashion as possible.

I’ll close with this – I’ve been privileged to be in a position to help theater programs in the local HS in the community where I live as part of a booster organization and now on a conservatory – I watch the teachers struggle to get the kids to get in touch with their artistic side…and when they do, the result is amazing. Even more so that the efforts were severely sabotaged by a group of parents who held similar views as yours to what ‘proper’ theater should be…and pretty much stripped the life out of the program as a result. Thankfully, we’ve been able to clean up the mess. And I have no problem telling someone now to leave their bias at the door. We get it, you hate the current production company. Despite your stated position that it’s your inalienable right to post whatever unflattering information you see fit, all it does is alienate you, and bring down the room as a whole…and it’s really not appreciated. The next time you’re whining about all the hostility, go look in the mirror for the reason instead of blaming others.

599. Harry Ballz - January 31, 2015

I watched “Guardians of the Galaxy” tonight.

Meh.

I’d give it a 7.5 out of 10, and the .5 is only for it’s quirky originality.

Oh, and Chris Pratt is NOT movie star material.

He’s just a TV actor who got VERY lucky.

600. Marja - February 1, 2015

Not to pile on exactly but I do tire of the same statements over and over; it seems like we’re arguing the same points again and again. Taking a vacation from the main boards for awhile (until there’s some NEW news). Like Phil I often feel like saying, Okay, I get it, you didn’t like the movies, I get it.

601. Spockchick - February 1, 2015

@600 Marja

Hope you are feeling better Lt. Honeyrack!

602. CmdrR - February 1, 2015

“Chris Pratt is NOT movie star material. He’s just a TV actor who got VERY lucky.”
Yo, Grumpy Ballz! All actors who you can name are the ones who “got VERY lucky.” 99.9% of those in the profession are also selling Herbalife to survive. Pratt is fine, as far as it goes. 2014 was a banner year for him, with The Lego Movie and GotG. I’m fine with him stepping in to milk the dinosaur one more time in Jurassic CG. Of course, Hollywood never focuses on just one thing, so Pratt is also mentioned in conjunction with The Magnificent Seven and Indiana Jones. I’ll read the reviews, but don’t expect to rush out to see either of those last two.

Marja — if you aren’t feeling better soon, the men of this chat room have volunteered to come over and feel you up… urm… cheer you up. Hope you’re startin’ to shine!

603. AJ - February 1, 2015

599:

GotG was much better the second go-round (I watched it on a plane). The first time I saw it, I was expecting quite a bit more, including clarity vis-a-vis Thanos and all the little doo-dads that seem to meet something in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (destructo-spheres and Tesseracts, etc.).

When you realize it’s just a cute ‘n’ quirky space buddy comedy with some serious Marvel loyalty shout-outs (which you can forego) and big merch/OST potential, it lightens the burden of having to seek out any depth or continuity. Severely light entertainment.

604. AJ - February 1, 2015

Sorry,I meant “mean something” in my last post…

605. Harry Ballz - February 1, 2015

@602

Grumpy, CmdrR? Uh, no, I don’t think so. I simply recognize talent when i see it, and I comment when I don’t.

Case in point….sure, I could rattle off names like DiCaprio, Cumberbatch, Redmayne, all who have buckets of talent. I mean, it leaps off the screen at you.

But, no, for this discussion I’ll even cite (as an example) EVERY SINGLE ACTOR IN “GAME OF THRONES”, big parts and small (well, except for the young chubby guy, he’s not very good lol). All these actors have better acting chops than Mr. Pratt, but where is their recognition?

I HATE F*CKING POLITICS!

606. CmdrR - February 1, 2015

Actually, I think Hodor and Groot are the same guy.

Hodor!

I am Groot.

Hodor. Hodor.

I am Groot.

HODOR!

I am Groot.

Harry Ballz: (between them in the middle seat) “Lord, 6 hours to Quebec. Stewardess, I need 24 Mooseheads and some earbuds!!!”

607. Cygnus-X1 - February 1, 2015

598. Phil – January 31, 2015

Wow, you really took my comments in a way that I had not intended and did not predict.

I wasn’t necessarily singling you out as a partisan—I meant “you and your” as much in the sense of one and one’s—though, you, Phil, do seem extremely partisan with all of your complaints about people criticizing BR Trek and Orci. That’s almost all that you talk about. You’ve even got your own name for the purposes of marginalizing such people—“The Terrific Trio.” To see you accuse me of doing (by my comments in #595) what you are doing now, and do on a regular basis, is something that I cannot make sense of.

In fact, your response to me here is far more partisan than I had expected. My comments were about two movies and the company that produced them. They were not about you, Phil. If you are offended by my tendency to synopsise the subject matter before making a point about it, you can blame my past writing teachers for getting me into that habit.

In this case, my main point was about the confusion in ST09 and STID which, judging by the reactions of people here and elsewhere (critical reviews), seems to have worked to JJ’s advantage. And I don’t think that was an accident, just as the intentionally nonsensical plot of Lost wasn’t an accident (as we now know from an associated writer). I think that this is a valid point and have provided supporting references from the subject matter to back it up. Sorry if that offends you.

@595. You presume a lot. Unless JJ is whispering sweet nothings into your ear, your assumption that he has no interest in expanding his artistic horizons is sheer speculation.

Well, just the fact that he’s been running his own production company for years and hasn’t done any such projects. And the productions that he does do are about as far removed from an auteur project as I can reasonably imagine.

Hey, it’s been great chatting with you, Phil!

608. CmdrR - February 1, 2015

Dammit man! I’m a doctor, not a cartoon dragon!

http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/01/urban-in-dragon-remake/

Shat’s Super Bowl spot:

http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/01/new-shatner-priceline-commercial-2/

609. Disinvited - February 1, 2015

# 599. Harry Ballz – January 31, 2015

” He’s just a TV actor who got VERY lucky.” — Harry Ballz

You mean like Tim Allen, who oddly enough, was in that other GALAXY movie?

610. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 1, 2015

And the Award for the most Bone Headed Play calling of any and all Super Bowls goes to. Seatle Seahawks. Harry.People in all of Washington and Oregon feel your pain.

611. Harry Ballz - February 1, 2015

@609 Disinvited “Tim Allen……that other GALAXY movie?”

Hey, Disinvited, I enjoyed Galaxy Quest a hundred times more than GOTG!

And the special effects were better, too, which is funny considering how many years prior it was made.

612. CmdrR - February 2, 2015

OK, Grumpy Ballz.
So, how did you like ST3? I especially liked it when Lt. Perry rode the Sehlat while fending off the shark creatures.

613. Silvereyes - February 2, 2015

I guess it’s too much to ask for this site to post something like this:

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/star-trek/33909/star-trek-3-fresh-character-rumours-possible-villain

After all, it’s only Trek news… So difficult to find too, just did a Google on my lunch break. 2 secs…

614. CmdrR - February 2, 2015

‘…the villain “supposed to be Bryan Cranston-like.”‘

The Enterprise is closing on a derelict vessel.

Kirk: Spock, is that a Fleetwood Bounder… 1994?

Spock: Much older. A 1986 I would say.

Chekov: Ve’re close enough to smell dem.

Spock: Illogical, Ensign, since smell cannot travel through —

Chekov: No, really. Dat ting smellz like cat peess!

Kirk, Spock, Scotty, and Lt. Honeyrack beam over to the RV.

Lt. Honeyrack: A man from the 20th century…

Walter White: 21st century. And now the 23rd. I’ll be taking over your ship, Captain.

Kirk: Whuh?

Walter White: I am the one who knocks.

ummm… and that’s where I ran out of parody. Anyway… Cranston is certainly welcome, although I’m mostly interested in seeing McCoy really take part this time.

615. AJ - February 2, 2015

Wow- Bones’s wife…Will we see their daughter, Joanna? That’s digging deep into the lore right there.

Nice find, Silvereyes.

616. Harry Ballz - February 2, 2015

Sivereyes to the rescue!

Well done, sir!

617. Disinvited - February 2, 2015

# 611. Harry Ballz – February 1, 2015

” Hey, Disinvited, I enjoyed Galaxy Quest a hundred times more than GOTG!” — Harry Ballz

Me too but we were talking about in what light you regard Tim Allen, the television actor?

618. Phil - February 2, 2015

Rumors, rumors everywhere, but not a bit of news that’s fit to print.

http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/star-trek/243314/star-trek-3-casting-latest

619. Phil - February 2, 2015

@612
(Everyone in the room) Harry hated it!!!

Oh, and everyone needs to get lucky every now and them.

620. Phil - February 2, 2015

So, would that by Malcolm in the Middle Bryan Cranston, Breaking Bad Bryan Cranston, or Godzilla Bryan Cranston?

Good lord, just took a look at the guys filmography…the guy has had a role in just about every TV show made in the last 25 years. Definitely a working actor….

621. Harry Ballz - February 2, 2015

@617 Disinvited

Oh, don’t get me wrong, some TV actors have made the transition to feature film, and it was well deserved. DiCaprio and Cumberbatch are two that come to mind. I thought Tim Allen was good in Galaxy Quest, but the movie was so good, that certainly helped him a lot.

622. Phil - February 2, 2015

@621. Yeah, but Galaxy Quest was tailored for Allen’s brand of humor, so people who went in expecting Tim Taylor in space weren’t disappointed. Had he taken the Jim Carrey approach and played it any other way it would have been a disaster (not a fan of Jim Carrey…)

623. Red Dead Ryan - February 2, 2015

Let’s not forget Cranston as Dr. Watley from “Seinfeld”.

624. Red Dead Ryan - February 2, 2015

He also appeared on an episode of “The X-Files”.

625. Harry Ballz - February 2, 2015

@622

And, Phil, not to complicate it even further, but we know Allen was riffing his character off of Shatner’s Kirk in TOS. I also felt he was portraying the role of EVERYMAN, and how any of us would feel caught up in those circumstances.

All of this put together, along with a well written script, certainly made for an interesting character.

626. Marja [aka Lt. Honeyrack] - February 3, 2015

624 RDR, He was creepy as frikk in that X-Files episode.

I think I would really enjoy some Harry Mudd-type humor and if Cranston can deliver I’m down with that. There are plenty of actors who’d be funny as hell. For some reason when someone brought it up ages ago my mind leapt to Jack Black.

DEN OF GEEK &c. sound like “just rumors” to me, but I’d certainly welcome more female characters. And McCoy’s ex? Only if she’s not played for stereotypical “divorced-bitch” laughs.

But, GAWD, not another black-hat villain like Khan or Nero! Bore, bore, bore!

PS, Spockchick, thanks for your well wishes. I and my honeyrack are just fine now!

627. AJ - February 3, 2015

Funny, but true info about Commander Data’s technical specs as stated in 1989 vs. today’s supercomputers.

The other bits are quite eye-opening as well.

http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_1306_20-mind-blowing-statistics-from-fictional-universes_p4/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=crackedfbfanpage

628. CmdrR - February 3, 2015

626 – The one about rebuilding the fleet after the Borg attack on Wolf 359 basically follows the Hollywood rule that battles get bigger. Either that, or the Trek universe intersects with the Futurama universe and Reagan’s head in a jar was in charge of the military build-up. Wonder what the galactic debt is?

629. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 3, 2015

Here is some more Star Trek Casting rumers.
Might see Dr. McCoys Ex Wife.

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/star-trek/33909/star-trek-3-fresh-character-rumours-possible-villain

630. Phil - February 3, 2015

Yeah, but by the end of the war the Navy was rolling out a ship a day. No idea how many tanks were being built, but the Axis just could not keep up.

Trek has been very footloose with the concepts of speed for a while now. It looks really cool to have a couple of starships gracefully floating by exchanging broadsides, but even at todays orbital velocities (remember, Federation ships are chugging along at speeds up to just under light speed with impulse engines), by the time Kirk clenches his fist and dramatically utters ‘fire’ your target is already 20 miles downrange. Anti-gravity gets chatted up from time to time – if you are standing on a planet, and nullify the effects of gravity for just one second, you will find yourself 143 miles above the surface of that planet…and very dead.

I enjoy sci-fi, but the made up stuff is still nonsense, regardless of what the defenders of Treks scientific accuracy may say…

631. CmdrR - February 3, 2015

Phil — Good point. There are some very, very hard science stories out there. I just plowed through Kim Stanley Robinson’s Mars Trilogy. While I highly recommend it, there are two things to keep in mind:

1) It’s about 2,000 long with a great deal on rocks, hence my use of the verb “plow.” I kinda skimmed the 137-512th areology lessons.

2) Even though he’s certainly done his homework, but the end of his books we’re on our way to other solar systems in a matter of 20 or so years. I just don’t know that conventional rockets will ever achieve this kind of thrust or be able to carry enough propellant of any kind to get us to an appreciable fraction of the speed of light.

My point is that in order to make for entertaining sci-fi, many (most?) authors throw in b.s. science. (Red Matter anyone? Unobtainium — which I prefer to call by its orginal name of Upsidaisium*) I have no problem with someone grafting in just a bit of nonsense so long as we don’t get the Pokemon Effect: “My special power beats you!” “My special special power beats your special power!” “My extra special special power power trumps all other special powers!” “MY ultra-special power…” That is, technobabble must NEVER provide the solution to the problem posed in the story. It has to be about the characters.

*http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=bullwinkle+rocky+upsidasium&FORM=VIRE3#view=detail&mid=69C3E0C0D1F7EE14144369C3E0C0D1F7EE141443

632. Silvereyes - February 3, 2015

631 CmdrR

“That is, technobabble must NEVER provide the solution to the problem posed in the story”

There goes 100% of the plot resolutions of Voyager!

… How I despise that show, especially Janeway…

633. Harry Ballz - February 3, 2015

@632

“despise”???

Ooooh, Silvereyes, welcome to the “Villains of Verbal Venom” club! :>)

634. CmdrR - February 3, 2015

Janeway: Quick Mr. Kim, reverse the metaphasics on the tetrion flow!

Kim: Uh. Yes, I have a button for that… um, this blue-green one.

Silvereyes: Jesus. They’re all blue-green… and tetrion flow isn’t even a thing.

Janeway: Silence, silver-eyed alien, or I will have you pecked to death by ducks!

Tuvok: I believe that would violate the Prime Directive, not to mention the dietary habits of vegetarian aquatic fowl.

Silvereyes: This show is the worst Trek ever!!!

Janeway: You mean the worst so far…

Archer: Let me tell you about how a gazelle learns to walk…

Silvereyes: Aaaaaaarrgggh!!!

635. CmdrR - February 3, 2015

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/felicity-jones-star-wars-standalone-pic-1201422533/

So, audiences will get THREE Star Wars movies in the time it takes Paramount to put out ONE Star Trek film?

636. AJ - February 3, 2015

Technobabble was NOT invented on VOYAGER. It was a Geordi LaForge thing before that.

Never forget re-jiggling the deflect dish to emit a negative tachyon pulse, or whatever such nonsense they thought up for “All Good Things.”

637. Marja - February 4, 2015

634 CmdrR,

Lt. Honeyrack: Oh God, of all the ships in all the Starfleet, why did I get assigned to THIS shit– I mean ship
———————————————————–

635 CmdrR, Well, ol’ Disney has tons of megabuck$ to throw at Star Wars. Sometimes I really hate being a fan of the science fiction franchise that labors under a studio that just can’t seem to get its shite together.

Put your stuff in one sock, Paramount!

638. Silvereyes - February 4, 2015

AJ, true Voyager didn’t invent technobabble, Geordi was an expert, but Janeway and her minions took it to a whole new level…

CmdrR, good story that captures reality quite well, however you forgot a face-palm somewhere in there…

639. Mitchell - February 4, 2015

@Marja Oh you have won the internet today. I salute you!

“637. Marja – February 4, 2015

Well, ol’ Disney has tons of megabuck$ to throw at Star Wars. Sometimes I really hate being a fan of the science fiction franchise that labors under a studio that just can’t seem to get its shite together.

Put your stuff in one sock, Paramount!”

640. Silvereyes - February 4, 2015

633 Harry

“Ooooh, Silvereyes, welcome to the “Villains of Verbal Venom” club! :>)”

I call it the “Get-off-my-lawn-you-young-whippersnapper” syndrome. It begins at 50…

Really, either the global population IQ is decreasing by 5 points every year, or I need some strong medication.

641. Silvereyes - February 4, 2015

Not much more than we didn’t know already, except filming starting April 15th in Vancouver.

http://screenrant.com/star-trek-3-2016-casting-bryan-cranston-filming-locations/

642. CmdrR - February 4, 2015

“…either the global population IQ is decreasing by 5 points every year, or I need some strong medication.”

Hahahahaha. Silvereyes, don’t be ridiculous. What do you mean “or”?

643. AJ - February 4, 2015

Watch the Brits take Hollywood in these very funny Vanity Fair shorts:

http://www.vulture.com/2015/02/keira-knightley-benedict-cumberbatch-eddie-redmayne-vanity-fair.html?mid=facebook_vulture

“Batman – played by a Brit–
Superman – played by a Brit-
Spiderman – played by a Brit-
Even Abraham Lincoln was played by a Brit…for f*ck’s sake…”

644. Harry Ballz - February 4, 2015

…and Captain Kirk was played by a Canadian!

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

645. Ahmed - February 4, 2015

Captain Picard was played by a Brit! :)

646. Harry Ballz - February 4, 2015

…..and Scotty was played by a Canadian!

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

647. AJ - February 5, 2015

Daredevil on TV, and now X-Men in the works:

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/x-men-tv-live-action-series-fox-marvel-1201415289/

Is this just another boat that Star Trek will miss?

648. CmdrR - February 5, 2015

Dammit, we’re losing the drone war now…

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregorymcneal/2015/02/04/guy-builds-millenium-falcon-drone-internet-goes-wild/

649. Disinvited - February 5, 2015

Breaking:Amy Pascal steps down from helming Sony. Stays on the payroll but no longer calling the shots.

650. CmdrR - February 5, 2015

No reason. Just like it:

http://jalopnik.com/amazing-star-trek-van-has-spock-boobs-1683807005

651. CmdrR - February 5, 2015

This belongs on the main page. Congrats, George!

http://www.carlyleobserver.com/entertainment/national-a-e/star-trek-star-george-takei-s-musical-allegiance-set-during-wwii-finds-its-way-to-broadway-1.1753586

652. PaulB - February 5, 2015

#648 CmdrR:
Begun the Drone War has.

653. Silvereyes - February 5, 2015

650 Well sure, East Vancouver… What else do you expect?

654. CmdrR - February 5, 2015

653 — I think it’s the work of a brilliant physicist who’s working on a star drive device.

Panel van with shag carpet = Chick magnet.
Images of Star Trek = Chick repellent.
Put them together = gravity neutralizer!

655. Cygnus-X1 - February 5, 2015

Star Trek 13: Kirk & the Gang Meet Scooby-Doo & Friends

Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty, Sulu, Uhura, Chekov, Fred, Daphne, Thelma, Shaggy and Scooby all pile into the Mystery Machine and drive to the site of a reported incident that sounds an awful lot like *ZOIKS!* A KLINGON INVASION OF EARTH!!!

In the end, they discover that it was really just Old Man Withers dressed up as a Klingon trying to scare people away from the wharf so that he could buy up beach-front property at distressed prices. And he woulda gotten away with it, if it wasn’t for those rotten kids!

656. Marja - February 6, 2015

654 cmdrR Well reasoned sir and a laff!

655 cygnus … I thought Withers worked for Mr Burns … oops wrong cartoon … but perhaps the magnificent Enterprise crew can prevent a nuclear crisis in Springfield!

657. CmdrR - February 6, 2015

I really need to read this series. Have been waiting for the price to drop a bit.
This article has some saucy excerpts.

http://io9.com/the-truth-about-what-went-wrong-with-the-third-season-o-1684057419

658. Harry Ballz - February 6, 2015

Gawd, my eyes glaze over as I read all the stupid posts on the Simon Pegg thread.

659. Phil - February 6, 2015

Yeah, it’s almost down to everyone being distracted by any bright, shiny object that pops into view….and then arguing about it.

Of course, given some of the serious s**t that’s hit the news in the last few days, petty bickering is a bit of a relief.

660. Red Dead Ryan - February 6, 2015

Well, you know you’ve seen it all on this site when a poster on the Simon Pegg thread decides he’d be a better creative consultant on the new movie than Bob.

And it doesn’t help matters that neither Paramount nor CBS have any tangible long-term goals with the franchise. Disney is leaving Paramount in the dust with the resurrection of “Star Wars” on the big screen, and the expansion of the Marvel cinematic universe.

661. Cygnus-X1 - February 6, 2015

656. Marja – February 6, 2015

That was Smithers in The Simpsons. As in:

LISA: It could be a mutant from the power plant.

MR. BURNS:That’s preposterous, everyone knows our mutants have flippers – oops, I’ve said too much. Smithers, get the amnesia ray.

SMITHERS: You mean the revolver, sir?

MR. BURNS: Yes, and be sure to wipe your mind clear when you’re done as well.

662. Cygnus-X1 - February 6, 2015

That Trek-boob van is awesome. If I was still in my 20s and lived in Vancouver I would totally buy that for $9,500.

663. CmdrR - February 6, 2015

Barf: I know we need the money, but…
Lone Starr: Listen! We’re not just doing this for money!
Barf: [Barf looks at him, raises his ears]
Lone Starr: We’re doing it for a SHIT LOAD of money!

http://www.inquisitr.com/1820773/spaceballs-the-search-for-more-money-mel-brooks-reveals-sequel-plans/

And ANOTHER franchise is moving forward while ST3 hangs out takin’ it easy. grumble grumble grumble

664. Phil - February 6, 2015

@660. Consider the source….no surprise there at all.

665. Red Dead Ryan - February 6, 2015

#663.

I wonder if Bill Pullman will be back? Unfortunately, we lost John Candy over twenty years ago, and Joan Rivers almost six months ago.

As for Trek, the epoch of its popularity was in the nineties. Times were different back then. “Star Wars” was on hiatus (until 1999), superhero flicks were few and far between, and much there was much less competition at the box office as well as on television.

Simply put, CBS and Paramount have their wheels stuck in the mud while sci-fi fandom has moved on.

666. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 6, 2015

I would love to see a new Spaceballz Movie. I loved the first one.
Great. I’m Surranded A$$Holes. Keep fireing A$$holes.

667. Harry Ballz - February 6, 2015

“How many assholes we got on this ship?”

“YO!”

668. Disinvited - February 6, 2015

# 666. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire – February 6, 2015

” Keep fireing A$$holes.” — Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire

But sir, if we keep firing A$$holes, who’s going to direct?

669. Cygnus-X1 - February 7, 2015

Will Wheaton on why he left Hollywood after Star Trek: TNG.

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-wil-wheaton-left-hollywood-star-trek-big-bang-theory-2015-2

670. Randall Williams - February 7, 2015

*** ATTENTION ***

For those of you who may not be aware, the world-wide working title
for the upcoming 2016 Star Trek movie is …

“Star Trek Into Oblivion”

Source: IMDB.

Right frame: click on “Release dates” and then scroll down to
“Also Know As (A.K.A.)”

671. CmdrR - February 7, 2015

ST Into Oblivion? Kinda hope not. Sounds like one of those buzz words they spend an idiotic amount of money testing.
Star Trek Into Trouble
Star Trek Into Danger
Star Trek Into Leather
Odd that they would continue with a trend from a movie that performed so poorly they had to lower the budget on the third sequel (usually a cash cow just by the power of threes.)

672. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 7, 2015

Star Trek. In the wild blue yonder.’
Star Trek. Space Ballz.
Star Trek. Wars.
Star Trek. Harry’s Space Ballz.

673. AJ - February 7, 2015

With all credit to Harry:

“Star Trek into Uranus”

674. Harry Ballz - February 7, 2015

Star Trek: Goes Ballz Deep

The crew of the Enterprise explore a black hole and have trouble escaping from it.

675. AJ - February 7, 2015

ST Into Oblivion sounds like a fake, cynical title referencing the franchise’s current direction.

676. Phil - February 7, 2015

No it’s not. Anyone can edit IMDB, I can go in there and change it to read:

Star Trek: Lassie Come Home

Or, to recognize Alice Eve’s birthday….

Star Trek: Ample Nacelles

Either way, Simon Pegg wins.

677. CmdrR - February 7, 2015

Star Trek: Goes Ballz Deep

No Harry, that was already done during TOS.

Do read the linked article on 657.

678. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 7, 2015

Star Trek. Ballz of fury.

679. Red Dead Ryan - February 7, 2015

At this point, “Star Trek Into Oblivion” is a fitting title, unfortunately.

Another line from “Spaceballs”:

“I see your Schwartz is as big as mine. Let’s see how well you use it!”

And the reprisal of the chest-bursting scene from “Alien” at the end of the movie was classic. It was the same actor too.

680. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 7, 2015

In case you did not notice in Space Ballz. The Scene where they show them going to the Restraunt to eat. If you look at the Space Ships you will see the Falcon from Star Wars.

681. AJ - February 7, 2015

Five minutes of Internet time you will never get back:

“35 Stars You Didn’t Know Were on Star Trek”

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/gallery/star-trek/editorial-10268601/

682. Marja - February 8, 2015

Star Trek: Fast and Curious.

It covers the need for speed factor … and might get those tiresome fans who insist Trek should involve some Science fiction to shut up …

JK, I would love to see some science fiction up in that thing too.

Shee-it, Paramount, I suspect JJ saw the writing on the wall. I am really starting to hate this studio with the power of a thousand burning suns …. stupid time wasters may have cost ST to leave the movies behind … then begins the grappling with CBS DAMMMMMNNN YOU SUMNER REDSTONE

683. AJ - February 8, 2015

Star Trek: Ballz of Fury Deep Into Uranus

Top that one, Mr. Pegg.

684. CmdrR - February 8, 2015

681-

OK, if the King of Jordan is spending $1.5B oilbucks on SpockyWorld, why can’t he cough up a few measly hundred million to finance a new Trek TV show??

Yes, I knew Mick Fleetwood was a guppy.

685. Lurker - February 8, 2015

JJ mentioning Simon Pegg as ST writer:

http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/star-wars-the-force-awakens/243447/jj-abrams-says-were-still-cutting-star-wars-the-force-awakens

686. CmdrR - February 8, 2015

680- http://www.containsmoderateperil.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Spaceballs-21.jpg

687. Ahmed - February 8, 2015

@684. CmdrR,

“OK, if the King of Jordan is spending $1.5B oilbucks on SpockyWorld, why can’t he cough up a few measly hundred million to finance a new Trek TV show??”

The King is not as rich as the oil sheiks of the Arabian Gulf :)

Their main source of income is coming from tourism since that Jordon is not an oil producing country like Saudi Arabia or Kuwait.

King Abdullah is funding some of the $1.5B, not all of it. The rest is funded by investors from the US and the Gulf countries.

688. CmdrR - February 8, 2015

Ah.
I didn’t know that.
Thanks.

689. Ahmed - February 8, 2015

@688. CmdrR,

You’re welcome :)

690. Red Dead Ryan - February 9, 2015

Well, Bob ain’t posting on this site anymore. AP is on another months-long hiatus, and the next movie is still struggling to get going.

“Star Trek Into Oblivion” sounds about right.

691. CmdrR - February 9, 2015

Not much of an update, but beggars can’t… you know get any frakkin’ news…

from Film Divider (which other online folks say is an iffy source:

–Now about Star Trek 3, JJ Abrams said, “[Simon Pegg] and I had talked quite a bit about story, he had a lot of wonderful ideas. It just sort of felt obvious that he would be a wonderful person to work on the story and help craft the story, so he’s working on it.”

692. Disinvited - February 9, 2015

# 690. Red Dead Ryan – February 9, 2015

” “Star Trek Into Oblivion” sounds about right.” — Red Dead Ryan

Where’s the love for the new team in a statement bereft of optimism like that? Am I mistaken? I thought you were all about the NOT hate?

693. Red Dead Ryan - February 9, 2015

Disinvited,

I was commenting on how Paramount seems to be screwing around, not knowing how to handle their property. I have faith in the writers, the producers, the actors, etc. but not the suits running the studio. They obviously felt that revenues weren’t as they were hoping, and instead of just simply making small corrections they ended up meddling in the scripting process and bumped out Bob Orci. In the meantime, there is no new tv series planned, limited merchandise, and not much else going on while Disney and Warner continue to expand their superhero empires. As a result, “Star Trek” is getting left behind, and struggling to build on it’s fanbase.

694. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 9, 2015

How about Star Trek. Supernatural.
The Winchester’s Come aboard as Star fleet Security to investagate Stange Occurenaces on the Enterprise.

695. Ahmed - February 9, 2015

@694. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire,

Sam & Dean in space!

I will watch that as long as Castiel is with them :)

696. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 9, 2015

#695. Well. Why we are at it. Let’e get Crawly in there as the true villian. He can team up with Trelane. LOl.

697. Ahmed - February 9, 2015

@696,

As long as it is Crawly, King of Hell from last season and not mummy’s boy of this season :)

698. Ahmed - February 9, 2015

Spider-Man Returns to Marvel; New Movie Coming in 2017

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/spider-man-marvel-sony-movies-1201429508/

699. Marja - February 9, 2015

I wonder if AP’s main connection with the movies was Bob Orci. If so, he may be on hiatus for a LONG time.

Either that or he’s waiting for Paramount to get its shite together. And he may be on hiatus for a LONG time.

700. Ahmed - February 9, 2015

@699. Marja,

LOL, sound like the perfect Kobayashi Maru scenario

701. Harry Ballz - February 9, 2015

Anthony is like Roddenberry during the run of TOS. He walked away from his baby.

702. Disinvited - February 9, 2015

#693. Red Dead Ryan – February 9, 2015

Thanks for explaining and I think we can both drink to that. This has been my standard beef with old Paramount since way back when. But what I find puzzling is this new Paramount seemed to have totally cleaned house. How did it get reinfected with this wrongheaded micromanagement of Trek mindset?

703. AJ - February 10, 2015

If you look at Disney, Fox, Warner’s and Sony as “tentpole” leaders, Paramount seems to be standing still. Apart of Transformers and GI Joe, the only true franchise they have left (Godfather and Spongebob aside) would be “Star Trek.” Transformers is nothing to be proud of. It prints money, but it is a runny shit sandwich in a world of gourmet dining.

They just don’t have the mentality to run anything like ‘Star Trek’ as a film franchise. Their execs look at what was big in the summer and say “Oooh, Let’s make one of those!” and leave us to hope against hope they won’t f*ck it up again (with bad/nonexistent PR when they make changes to the creative team).

Maybe the thing with CBS actually owning it makes a difference. I don’t pretend to understand how that works. Yet, the success of the films definitely influences worldwide acceptance of the brand, and any chance of it coming back to TV, let alone having longevity on the big screen.

704. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 10, 2015

I for ne am very excited about Spiderman being back with Marval. Spidy being in there with Captian American and Iron Man will be very cool. Now if they could find a way to get the Xmen and the Fantastic 4 to get with all of the Avengers in 3 massive Movies simular the the Lord of the Rings would be Momumental to say the least.

705. Phil - February 10, 2015

Spiderman moving back to Marvel let a little air out the argument that Orci destroyed that franchise, too. It’s pretty obvious that Sony put it on hold, anticipating a change of management. Still, with so many studios moving toward massive CGI extravaganzas on these tentpole movies, the anticipation that a couple of these 200MM features will meltdown must be growing. It’ll be interesting to see if Paramounts insistence on Trek coming in at the 150MM range will end up driving a better product.

706. Ahmed - February 10, 2015

@ 705. Phil,

“Spiderman moving back to Marvel let a little air out the argument that Orci destroyed that franchise, too.”

LOL, you are really delusional.

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“The Amazing Spider-Man 2″ just wasn’t the billion-dollar hit that Sony’s Amy Pascal had been looking for last year — and needed to be in order to keep full control over the character. That movie became the lowest grossing film of Sony’s five Spidey films to date, and forced the studio to instantly start rethinking its plans for the character, even giving up a piece of the franchise.

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/why-sony-called-in-marvels-big-gun-to-reboot-spider-man-1201429540/

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Didn’t destroyed indeed!

707. Harry Ballz - February 10, 2015

Oh, man, I got off a great joke about Orci in the Simon Pegg thread @ 1458.

708. Red Dead Ryan - February 10, 2015

Spider-Man is going to appear in “Captain America: Civil War”. I wonder if they’ll recast Spider-Man, or bring back Andrew Garfield? There’s rumors that J.K. Simmons will reprise his role as J. Jonah Jameson either in CA3 or in another reboot.

709. CmdrR - February 10, 2015

708 – AS-M was an ordeal of overblown cgi over character… and gawdawful pacing. Jamie Foxx vanished as soon as his character transformed. Dane DeHaan was so menacing his Green Goblin politely stepped aside when the other villains took their turn. They shoehorned in Paul Giamatti just to offer a throw-away scene at the end. Clue for Orci et al: If you need 3 villains, your villains are forgettable. Forgettable villains = movie death. And that’s not to mention the fact that both AS-M movies threw out the preceding three (better) movies and redid the franchise’s greatest hits vol. 1. WHY? AS-M had no reason to exist. When I go Spidey shopping, I will ignore them!!

Ever and always, it comes down to writing. If there’s no idea, no character development, no theme… then all the Korean keystrokes in the universe will not save a bad script.

710. THX-1138 - February 10, 2015

Total derail here:

I called someone a bonke knerck today.

Made me a tad misty.

Carry on.

711. THX-1138 - February 10, 2015

And I decided to read through the comments…….

Who is THX-1138?!? What are his particulars?!? Jeez, Harry, weed is legal in my hometown. I thought the Canadians weren’t doing quite as much of it. I am a FB friend of yours. Check your friends list for Crom’s sake.

Maybe someone who can remember me and is FB friends with Harry could message him on the book of faces with my real name (sorry, I aint gonna post that here, no way no how).

Yes, I own an art gallery. Yes I live in the NW of the lower 48. Yes I am a professional musician. And Mongo and I are one and the same, although the site won’t allow any more Mongo posting so I am afraid he is no more.

Feeling less than special right now.

712. Harry Ballz - February 10, 2015

@711

THX, please understand, of course I know who you are, but a couple of things…first, at the time I posed that question, it seemed like somebody was posting under your name and it didn’t sound like you. Second, to be brutally honest, now that I’m pushing 60, my memory in general is getting spotty. I’m razor-sharp on some things, but kind of mushy on others. It’s a little distressing when I think of the implications.

I enjoy when you pop up on Facebook.

713. Red Dead Ryan - February 10, 2015

CmdrR,

I agree with you about the ASM movies. Especially the second one. The fight scene visuals were video-game-ish, with too many villains, and a lame, reheated plot. The first movie as pointless reboot, retelling the same story we already knew, and one which was done much better by Raimi. Even the highly flawed “Spider-Man 3″ was more entertaining.

I did enjoy the ASM-2 score by Hans Zimmer, though.

714. Lurker - February 10, 2015

My three daughters refused to see the ASM movies in the theaters since they were big fans of the first three. We would go to the midnight showings for the Raimi movies and have a lot of fun.

However, my grandson likes the new movies because Peter Parker has a skateboard.

Anyway…its about time Spidey sees action in the MCU. Sony totally screwed it up with the reboots.

715. Silvereyes - February 10, 2015

711 THX

Not wanting to pat myself on the back, but I’m the one who refreshed people’s memory on you, my friend. But, really, Mongo no more? Unacceptable…

Mongo! We’re stronger with you than without you!

Surely sockpuppeting rules can be curbed for our hairy friend… Please make it so!

716. AJ - February 10, 2015

I think Raimi’s “Spiderman 2″ is one of the best superhero flicks ever made, and don’t expect anything Marvel does with the character to really top it. As they say, it was a reflection of the classic “John Romita Spiderman” which resonated with Raimi when it was being published.

Also, when you mix Spidey in with Cap and Iron Man, his presence will be diluted, with no Aunt May, reduced JJJ, and probably none of his classic villains (or girlfriends/teenage angst). Spidey is as much about Peter Parker as it is about the Webslinger, so it remains to be seen just how successful shoe-horning him into the next Cap film will be.

717. AJ - February 11, 2015

JJ is messing with the dates again:

Though “moving up” here implies making it earlier, I take it?

http://nukethefridge.com/2015/02/11/has-j-j-abrams-asked-for-the-force-awakens-release-date-to-be-moved-up/

718. THX-1138 - February 11, 2015

Harry

It’s just and act. I aint actually cheesed off or anything; it just struck me as funny when I started to sift through the old comments above. The “fake outrage” routine. And don’t lie: Facebook isn’t the only time you enjoy me popping up (can you get banned for comments like that in here yet?).

Silvereyes

I’ll give Mongo a try again, maybe things have changed. He makes me feel like Clark Kent, though. I think he had more friends here than me, which is understandable since he was infinitely nicer and more human than myself. Anyway, if I can pry Mongo away from the dog’s dish I can guarantee you that his first comments would be in here. If he’s successful I should let him run things for a while. I sorta like the big guy, too.

So, Star Trek. Is that still a thing?

719. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 11, 2015

If Marvel does Spidy right. Thet can include his villians in the Captian America and Avengers movie and have them team up with the other baddies. Or at least for Captian America have his Baddies at the end of Capt to join forces with the Avengers baddies. That way he along with the rest of the Avengers will team up againt some realy bad baddies.
Marvel seems to have a handle on theor Super Heroes.

720. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 11, 2015

You know. Now to think of it. Sine Mongo was made head of the Empire Security things have been pretty quiet. Except for all the screeming coming from the Agony Booth. Lol.

721. MONGO - February 11, 2015

Mongo say hi Emperor Mike mans! Mongo in mirror universe Ognom.

Ognom say GRRRR! Because it mirror universe. Mongo not really growl at peoples.

722. CmdrR - February 11, 2015

717 – Seems like a Christmas flick, but hey — what do I know? I only watch movies. I’m trying to keep my expectations so low I can’t possibly be disappointed. I can’t even tell you how little I want to see a post-menopausal, post loony Carrie Fisher in character. It’ll be like finding the slavegirl costume in my mom’s stuff. Eeeeooow.

723. Red Dead Ryan - February 11, 2015

The next Spidey solo flick willl apparently take Peter Parker back to high school, and establish how he becomes Spider-Man.

724. Phil - February 11, 2015

Third times the charm….

725. Phil - February 11, 2015

@718. Fake outrage is ruling the day on the main boards. I, for one, would welcome a little levity without having my sanity questioned with every f**king comment….

So much for levity…

726. Disinvited - February 11, 2015

# 725. Phil – February 11, 2015

“Fake outrage is ruling the day on the main boards.” — Phil

I AM FAKE OUTRAGED THAT YOU COULD SAY SUCH A THING! ;-)

727. MONGO - February 11, 2015

This why Mongo take over for THX mans. Him fake outrage polarizing.

728. Red Dead Ryan - February 11, 2015

More info on the Spidey re-reboot:

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/movies/news/the-new-%e2%80%98spider-man%e2%80%99-universe-who%e2%80%99s-in-who%e2%80%99s-out/ar-AA9gLkv?ocid=mailsignoutmd

729. CmdrR - February 11, 2015

“Star Trek 3: The Tholian Webslinger

Kirk vanishes into unstable space while Scotty gets drunk on Scotch and Klingon downers.”

Paramount Suit #1: Pegg, you’ve been at this for a month and this is all you’ve got?

Pegg: Tha’s no’ all, ye wankerz! They’s three new womens in the cast. We’re gettin’ Emma Stone, Jennifer Lawrence, and Emily Blunt.

Paramount Suit #2: You’re right. That’s plenty of script. Oh, you remembered to leave room for 115 minutes of cgi battles?

Pegg: An’ was three-sheeetz-ta-the-wind by ten ayem!

730. CmdrR - February 11, 2015

((That’s a joke, folks. I truly have high hopes for Simon Pegg’s script.))

731. Phil - February 11, 2015

@726. I find your lack of fake outrage…outrageous. :-p

732. Marja - February 11, 2015

Good see Mongo back.

696 Emperor, or maybe the Crawleys from Downton Abbey. That’s pretty popular. Star Tek into Downton. And they get to do time travel. YAWN

702 Dis, or you could simply go with the assumption that Paramount don’t give a rat’s arse about Star Trek.

733. Marja - February 11, 2015

Harry Ballz, you got off?

718 THX … I hope Mongo not go near kittybox. Sometime dog like eat there.

726, Dis … and Phil … how dare you say such things! You insult every one of us who continue to display our fake outrage! Why, you are nothing but tin plated dictators with delusions of grandeur! Your fozzers was a ‘amster and yor mozzers smelt … of ELDERBERRIES! !! Neither of you has my super science credentials or writing expertise so just leave this board bc you have NO IDEA what True Star Trek means! It means science and IDIC, the latter of which I seldom observe bc I am so much better and smarter than the likes of you! Go sulk in the corner and change your sanitary napkins!

Just poking more fun at fake outrage … not you guys

734. Marja - February 11, 2015

739 CmdrR, “And what’s more I’ve got all the ladies in bikinis for a sweaty hot tub scene! Kirk appears to Uhura while she’s near nekkid … and for the ladies in the audience Spock and Sulu fence while wearing only workout tights to reveal their charms. Oh an’ let’s have Beyonce do one o’ hair sexy dahnces … she could be an Orion woman …

“Wha’ can Ah say … I’m absolutely pissed … want some o’ my whisky? Fer some reason it’s green … So in the movie everything not cgi turns strangely sexual. An’ let’s not forget McCoy getting drunk with Nurse Chapel … I like Christina Hendricks for tha’ part cos of her ample nacelles … if ye know wha’ ah mean.”

735. Marja - February 11, 2015

726 Dis … I am more fake outraged than you!

736. Harry Ballz - February 11, 2015

@732 Marja “Harry Ballz, you got off?”

Well, Marja, that’s a little personal, but, yes, I did. I try to “get off” every chance I get!

737. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 11, 2015

I am so Fakely Outraged that everyone is not really Outraged that several is Fakely Outrageously not Outraged. This is just so Fakely Outragous.

738. CmdrR - February 12, 2015

Marja — Now yer talkin’, Lass! We can see the bloody thing before our wee pub crawl and again after through bloody eyeballs.

739. CmdrR - February 12, 2015

And a good Thursday to all and welcome to “Who Asked for It?” the post that asks the burning question “Should I click on that or can I go back to scratching myself?”

Today on “Who Asked for It?” a look at Trek’s Never-Neverland, including the sitcom and the oh-so-tasteful one about cannibals:

http://whatculture.com/film/12-star-trek-films-and-series-you-wont-believe-were-almost-made.php

“I’ll just have a leg of Chekov.”

“But is he kosher??”

740. MONGO - February 12, 2015

Mongo not eat Kitty Roca.

741. Phil - February 12, 2015

Star Trek: The Wrath of Hannibal Lecter

Does this taste funny to you?

742. CmdrR - February 12, 2015

Mongo, maybe you’d prefer Furbacca Roca??

http://www.slashgear.com/behold-furbacca-the-furby-chewbacca-12368839/

743. CmdrR - February 12, 2015

This is all your fault, Trekkies! If you — even one of you — had just passed him on the street and said, “Hey, Shinzon! How’s it going, dude?” this would never have happened:

http://uproxx.com/webculture/2015/02/chronicling-tom-hardys-brief-and-bizarre-love-affair-with-social-media/

744. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 12, 2015

So Star Trek Continues will get an Engine Room. Now that is Cool.

745. Basement Blogger - February 12, 2015

How about a fun fake Star Trek trailer? Alex Luthor has put together a trailer of an upcoming movie about Star Wars v. Star Trek. He uses film clips from both franchises. Enjoy.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/12/star-wars-vs-star-trek_n_6671086.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

746. Basement Blogger - February 12, 2015

More Star Trek discussion. A couple of commentators at IGN believe Star Trek needs to come back to TV. They talk about focusing on TNG universe. Of course, Star Trek belongs to TV. Deeper ideas could be explored than the movies. Here’s the video.

http://www.ign.com/videos/2015/02/11/why-star-trek-needs-to-come-back-on-tv-ign-conversation

747. Disinvited - February 13, 2015

As if there was any doubt, turns out she was fired after all:

http://recode.net/2015/02/11/hacked-hollywood-mogul-amy-pascal-on-sony-attack-all-i-did-was-get-fired/

“Amy Pascal broke her silence today at the Women in the World conference at the St. Regis Hotel in downtown San Francisco, in an onstage interview with journalist Tina Brown.

“All the women here are doing incredible things in this world. All I did was get fired,” said the departing Sony Pictures Entertainment co-chairperson, settling in for a free-flowing conversation with Brown.” – ‘Hacked Hollywood Mogul Amy Pascal on Sony Attack: ‘All I Did Was Get Fired’'; February 11, 2015, 9:29 PM PST; Nellie Bowles;

748. Marja - February 13, 2015

738 CmdrR. Ya beauty!

740 MONGO. Good Mongo. Kitty roca bad for you. Residual protein but UGH. Mongo well mannered.

749. Red Dead Ryan - February 13, 2015

Well, if Amy Pascal had been a man, she wouldn’t have been fired. Brad Grey isn’t doing such a bang-up job at Paramount, but, unfortunately, he’s not going anywhere anytime soon.

Anyway, it’s great that Mongo is back. His musings are good levity around here.

750. CmdrR - February 13, 2015

Review: Jupiter Ascending

Mila Kunis free-falling in tight clothing is worth the ticket price right there. But, oh there’s so much more…
The plot? She’s queen of the universe by virtue of a DNA trick that puny Earthlings are too stupid to understand… and three spoiled brats wanna get her. Got it? Good. Move on.
I want to back up by saying that I read numerous bad reviews on this Wachowski flick by critics who called it a confusing mess. Confusing? In places, certainly. A mess? No. Bruckheimer & Bay make messes. This is candy-colored… candy. Seriously, they got the visuals right this time. (You do NOT need 3D). The large-scale locales appear immense and yet retain a (somewhat) plausible weight. Physics is a joke, as usual, but it’s much less offensive this time than in way too many movies made in recent years. Part of that successful balance of b.s. and bravura is Channing Tatum. He handles the physicality of his role of Caine (part wolf, part chicken, part male stripper, ALL Starland Express skater) exceedingly well.
The movie pay homage (that is it does NOT totally rip-off) several other films we have all seen. Terry Gilliam has a cameo! Or if the W’s (now brother and sister) did steal, I just wish they had stolen some better dialogue. “You hurt me. Now, I will make you pay for that.” Seriously, comes from a sentient velociraptor and that’s the best threatening line they could come up with??
Which brings me to aliens. It’s more like an invasion by the denizens of Toys R Us. My favorite is elephant boy stepping into the Admiral Akbar role.
Negatives? I’ve already mentioned the serious lack of sparkling dialogue. The plot is also weighed down by having three villains. I have to think really hard to remember why #1 and #2 stopped trying to capture/coerce Mila, except that it was #3’s turn. He goes last because he’s the biggest scenery-chewer.
Don’t take my snarkiness the wrong way. This is NOT a great film. It’s a fun film. It’s not important, it’s enjoyable. The acting is not terrible, it’s serviceable to an actioner. And if all that makes Jupiter Ascending nothing more than eye candy… then, it’s the tastiest eye candy my blues have munched in some time.

751. CmdrR - February 13, 2015

Dang it…

Starlight Express.

See the movie. You’ll see what I mean.

752. Ahmed - February 13, 2015

@750. CmdrR,

How could you forget that Caine is part dog as well? :)

“Jupiter Ascending” is a fun movie with excellent visual effects but I think Kunis was miscast; however, she had some of the funniest lines in the movie.

I was expecting a lot more from the Wachowskis siblings this time, but the plot was not original at all. I guess that I will have to wait for their Netflix series “Sense8″ for something different.

The movie is not doing well at all in the domestic market but in Russia (no surprise) & other international markets it doing much better. Still, Deadline is reporting that WBs will not support any future projects from them.

753. Ahmed - February 13, 2015

Did you guys catch Zachary Quinto last night on his new show “The Slap”?

The crucial scene of the first episode, in fact the entire miniseries, was the one where Quinto’s character slapped a boy. That was a very powerful & unusual scene for a network TV. Some people thought that he actually hit the kid for real!

>>>

No, Zachary Quinto didn’t really slap a kid on ‘The Slap’

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/style-blog/wp/2015/02/13/no-zachary-quinto-didnt-really-slap-a-kid-on-the-slap/

>>>

The episode is up now on NBC .

http://www.nbc.com/the-slap

754. Red Dead Ryan - February 13, 2015

I didn’t know Quinto was doing his own show. I guess that means he’s done with Trek after the current film, if the movie actually gets made.

755. Ahmed - February 13, 2015

@754.Red Dead Ryan,

If you’re talking about “The Slap” it is a limited series.

Beside appearing in “Agent 47″ remake this summer, he is planning on doing small productions until someone from Star Trek give him a call!

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As he awaits word on when production will begin on the third “Star Trek” film, the first without director J.J. Abrams at the helm, Mr. Quinto said he and his production company, Before the Door, would consider getting involved in a second season of the shot-in-Pittsburgh moviemaking competition series “The Chair” if Starz orders another edition.

http://www.post-gazette.com/ae/tv-radio/2015/02/11/TV-Preview-Zach-Quinto-talks-about-The-Slap-his-future/stories/201502110007

756. CmdrR - February 13, 2015

I think Mila needed better dialogue and a much better couple of scenes with Wolfboy Peccingham. (Her “I love dogs” is among the few organically funny lines. But channing plays a splice with wolf in him.)
I know the film is getting killed in the US. That is a shame. Ot is such a near miss. A little subversiveness could have turned it gold. If we found out that Soilent Soda was MADE FROM PEOPLE a little earlier, then Sis’s bath would have had more sting to it. Woulda been cool to have her open a twist top, get a “no winner play again” message, and give a swig to her cat. Or say, “Irish– always tastes a little off.”
Again, most of the film is so close to being biting and far more memorable.

Still — A fun time at the movies.

757. CmdrR - February 13, 2015

That was in reply to you, Ahmed.

758. Ahmed - February 13, 2015

@756. CmdrR,

It was a fun movie & I was actually planning to see it again, just for the visuals, but for stupid reasons they are screening the movie in 3D only here in Calgary!! I hate watching movies in 3D, so I will wait for it to come on Blu-ray to watch it again.

759. Marja - February 13, 2015

750 CmdrR, If only the movie had had better editing. Still it was a fun ride, even with Mila dropping long distances, screaming all the way, only to be rescued by Channing, I don’t know how many times. Why he didn’t just find her a pair of those Special Boots sooner is a mystery. And Eddie Redmayne was emoting his heart out as the baddest of baddies. Great, fun scenery chewing.

756 CmdrR, hahaha! That WOULD have made it so much … tastier.

For me the movie was awful in 3D, maybe something was wrong with the projector, but there were still some double edges even when I moved to the center of the theatre and kept my head absolutely still.

AHMED, Thanks for posting links about Quinto :-)

760. Silvereyes - February 14, 2015

Right now sitting in front of my Valentine, in a Midtown Manhattan hotel room… on the 17th floor… wait for it… in room 1701!! And I didn’t even ask for it, just a fluke…

Maybe AJ can tell me why NYC cab drivers honk so much, like every few seconds! When the light turns green instant honk, even when the car in front has started moving. Like chill dude!

Happy Valentine’s everyone!

761. AJ - February 14, 2015

Well, I am my first known casualty of the Russian financial crisis version 2015, and have been laid off. Have to return to the USA by month end under visa rules.

I have a very serious relationship here, so I will hopefully get back on a personal invitation visa from my girlfriend by early April to seek out new employment in Moscow. Many foreigners have already left, and many manager-level Russians have as well believe it or not (400 000 last year). As soon as a real glimmer of hope appears, there may be opportunity. Despite the financial crisis, life can still be cheap here, and there are no shortages of goods, so I can live without spending crazily.

I am pissed off, but, in fact, working for the candy company kinda sucked. Also as someone who has paid taxes in Russia all this time, watching the country go rapidly into the toilet due an idiot with high approval ratings and dumb super-rich friends is quite depressing. I won’t write my book about it here, but Russia is really a place where cronyism leads to incompetent people running things. In the US, dumb people in the highest offices usually have at least one smart guy available at all times (even if he is evil), whereas here, all the smart ones seem to leave, and the dummies run the roost.

Anyway, I have two more weeks here; will make the best of it.

762. AJ - February 14, 2015

NYC cabbies generally honk as if they were in their home countries, which are generally ones where constant honking is a regular thing.

Otherwise, they do it out of spite, I guess. As a New Yorker, I can think of no other reason to honk as, like so many New Yorkers, I do not drive.

763. CmdrR - February 14, 2015

Sorry to hear about the job situation, AJ. Then again, I’ve never known anyone who bounced back quicker and higher than you!
I am in month 8 of job hunting mode. Went to a seminar on house flipping, but AdmrR decided (correctly) that it was not worth the $1,695 pricetag to get the full 3-day course (with promises that we would actually be SHOWN the actual no-kidding website.) So… I continue to search. To stay sane, I’m doing a little writing on my latest China Travel Journal. It’ll pop up on line in the next couple of weeks.

I wish I shared your view that the U.S. always keeps at least one smart guy/gal on call. I have zero faith in the current crop of Pres. candidates. Hillary v. Jeb? PUH-leeeeeeze no!

764. Harry Ballz - February 14, 2015

AJ, sorry to hear the news on the job front.

New York cabbies honk because, well, they’re horny.

765. Aurore - February 14, 2015

“…I have a very serious relationship here, so I will hopefully get back on a personal invitation visa from my girlfriend by early April to seek out new employment in Moscow…”

________

All my best wishes, AJ.

Take care.

766. CmdrR - February 14, 2015

Those Moscow girls keep their boyfriends warm at night…

767. Harry Ballz - February 14, 2015

AJ, just don’t marry her and then bring your new Russian bride back to the States.

You might just get the urge to shoot somebody from a warehouse window.

768. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 14, 2015

Hey AJ. Don’t pull an oswaled now. Lol

769. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 14, 2015

766. CmdrR – February 14, 2015
Those Moscow girls keep their boyfriends warm at night…

Sometimes each other to. He He HE

770. Marja - February 14, 2015

AJ my sympathies on imminent job loss and visa expiration. Here’s hoping your situation improves very soon and that you and your gf can stay together … That would be a long distance relationship challenge incredibly hard to imagine. Good luck.

I don’t know … I’ve been thinking our Murcan go vt is just as stymied by corruption as Russia’s … but your words have given me a teeny smidgen of hope.

771. PaulB - February 15, 2015

AJ, good luck with the job situation, and even more so with your relationship. I hope everything works out for you as quickly as possible.

Live long and prosper, may the Force be with you, may Umli above the 7 Moons light your way, Qapla’! In other words, in every way possible, I wish you success and good fortune through your uncertain times.

772. CmdrR - February 15, 2015

You say you’re sick and tired of having the Trek to the Stars? Finally, the stars (and planets) come to us:

http://www.cnet.com/news/replacing-our-moon-with-other-planets-yields-stunning-views/?ftag=YHRbd38a98

773. CmdrR - February 15, 2015

And then there’s this, from those nuts at NASA:

http://www.cnet.com/pictures/nasa-astronauts-parody-sci-fi-movies-pictures/

774. CmdrR - February 15, 2015

I now pronounce you wife and… KHAAAAAAAAAAANNNN!!

http://www.starpulse.com/news/Kevin_Blair/2015/02/15/benedict-cumberbatch-weds-fiancee-soph

775. Red Dead Ryan - February 15, 2015

I went to the local IMAX theatre earlier today, and saw “Journey Into Space”, a new 45-minute documentary narrated by Patrick Stewart. Interesting film.

776. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 16, 2015

Anyone watch the SNL 40 year Special last night. I loved it. Some really funny stuff.

777. Harry Ballz - February 16, 2015

Emperor Mike

I watched it. What the hell was wrong with Paul McCartney’s singing voice??

He barely croaked out “Baby, I’m amazed”!

778. crazydaystrom - February 16, 2015

777. Harry Ballz

Really Harry?!? Assuming you were serious, that would be like asking about an aged person “What happened to his/her skin? It’s saggy and wrinkled.”

But perhaps you were being facetious.

779. Red Dead Ryan - February 16, 2015

Paul McCartney is getting old.

780. Red Dead Ryan - February 16, 2015

Apparently CBS and Viacom are going to merge, but CBS CEO Leslie Moonves wants to buy CBS for himself, otherwise, he and his shareholders he represents are going to lose out on tens of millions of dollars.

781. CmdrR - February 16, 2015

778 – RDR — Shat’s got a dozen years on The Walrus and Shat can still belt out Rocket Man… and rap.

http://www.geeksofdoom.com/2015/02/13/wayne-brady-klingon-rap-late-late-show

782. Cygnus-X1 - February 16, 2015

777. Harry Ballz – February 16, 2015

What the hell was wrong with Paul McCartney’s singing voice?? He barely croaked out “Baby, I’m amazed”!

He should not have chosen that song of all the ones he could have done. I’m not sure if there was a temporary problem with his voice, or a permanent one, but Maybe I’m Amazed is too demanding vocally for him at this point, either way.

783. Harry Ballz - February 16, 2015

@778, 779, 781 and 782

Don’t get me wrong, it’s not his age. Paul has recently been singing just fine. Reports today are claiming he was partying until the wee hours the night before and his voice suffered for it.

Guess that happens to the best of us.

784. Red Dead Ryan - February 16, 2015

William Shatner is parodying himself, and other people’s music now.

785. Cygnus-X1 - February 16, 2015

But, even more disappointing than Paul McCartney’s performance was Eddie Murphy’s non-performance. Apparently Murphy told the producers that he’d only do the show if they did a puff piece on him and he didn’t have to perform or even try to entertain at all. And if he could leave the studio right after the 3-minute tribute to his greatness.

And, of course, I could have done without Kanye as well. At this point, I don’t ever need to see or hear from Kanye West ever again. Not that I ever needed to before. No amount of derision is too much for him at this point. He has more than earned it with his behavior over the years, and his most recent antics have now put him above my limit. I really hope he gets taken down, and I don’t know why Paul McCartney agreed to collaborate with him.

786. Cygnus-X1 - February 16, 2015

783. Harry Ballz – February 16, 2015

Don’t get me wrong, it’s not his age. Paul has recently been singing just fine. Reports today are claiming he was partying until the wee hours the night before and his voice suffered for it.

I’m glad to hear that. And I’m glad that he’s still partying into the small hours at age 72!

787. Cygnus-X1 - February 16, 2015

Bill Murray, on the other hand, was just as good at his night club singer bit as he was back in 1975. Dan Aykroyd, too.

788. B Kramer - February 16, 2015

Check out the SNL after party:

http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/02/snls-40th-anniversary-after-party-lasted-till-4am-featured-prince-paul-mccartney-and-taylor-swift-as-the-house-band/

789. Phil - February 16, 2015

@780. According to Moonves, merger talks are idle chatter. As there isn’t any indication on either Viacom or CBS shares that a merger might be in the offing, there is little reason to suspect there is.

790. CmdrR - February 16, 2015

SNL would be great if only they would hire a guy with an air horn who would blast it whenever a one-joke sketch dragged on past the funny. There would be a lot of deaf audiences, but still…

791. Marja - February 16, 2015

780 RDR … AW HELLZ NAW!!!

Leslie Moonves should be sent to sit in the corner after the way he’s treated Trek …

I really hope for the sake Trek that the merger happens! Despite market indicators ….
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As for Sir Paul … of course his voice isn’t near what it was over 50 years ago. A singer needs not only to treat hir voice with respect (like not drinking a lot of alcohol) and practice
regularly. (Opera singers do this, and unlike most pop and rock singers, have scads of training to reduce any vocal strain.) A pop singer should know hir limits. I suspect that they had rehearsed Maybe I’m Amazed and nothing else, and that’s the reason they went with it. Paul probably thought he could come through OK. Whoops!

792. Ahmed - February 16, 2015

Disinvited first brought this to our attention on the main board.

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CBS’s Moonves plans to buy company ahead of potential Viacom deal – NY Post

Thu Feb 5, 2015

“Moonves has been talking to a few banks and private equity firms about buying CBS,” the newspaper quoted a ‘well-placed’ source as saying. It is unclear how far the discussions have progressed, the report added.

The Moonves plan comes as talk of a mega media merger with Viacom has ratcheted up in recent weeks and Redstone’s health continues to falter, the newspaper said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/05/cbs-corp-management-idUSL4N0VF2K920150205

793. Ahmed - February 16, 2015

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Viacom Shareholders May Be Winners in Any CBS Reunion

February 8, 2015

Non-voting shares of CBS, the $29 billion broadcasting network, have far outperformed Viacom’s stock over the nine years since the two were split into separate entities. With 91-year-old controlling stakeholder Sumner Redstone scaling back his involvement in the companies, there’s talk of putting them back under one roof.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-09/viacom-shareholders-may-be-winners-in-any-cbs-reunion-real-m-a

794. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 16, 2015

To me the funniest bit SNL has ever done. Is in the first season with Richard Pryor as a Priest in The Exorcist 2. Warning. Only watch if you want good hard laugh.
Here is the Link.

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/the-exorcist-2/n8617

795. Phil - February 17, 2015

Ahmed – it’s an on going story. Put down your agenda colored reading glasses, apply a little reason and logic, crack open the business pages, and read what is currently being said for a change. Moonves said there’s no substance to this. The markets do a hellva job staying on top of this, if analysts saw some opportunity here they’d be positioning funds to take advantage of a potential change. Your continued knee jerk reactions whenever someone posts anything at all that isn’t in line with your ‘BR is evil’ agenda just gives people continued reason to shake their heads.

Cue your snarky marginalization reply in five…four…three… (yeah, you’re that predictable)…two…one…

796. Ahmed - February 17, 2015

@795. Phil,

“Your continued knee jerk reactions whenever someone posts anything at all that isn’t in line with your ‘BR is evil’ agenda just gives people continued reason to shake their heads.”

Do you see EVERYTHING as an attack on BR? Even a story about a merger between CBS & Viacom?

Your concern for BR is really touching!

797. Ahmed - February 17, 2015

@ 795. Phil – February 17, 2015

“Put down your agenda colored reading glasses, apply a little reason and logic”

It is laughable coming from you, considering that your “logic” was at fault many times in the past few weeks.

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250. Phil – December 26, 2014

Another rumor from the bombastic bloggers debunked. The original writing team is still on the job, working the script.

798. Ahmed - February 17, 2015

@Phil,

oh, last thing.

I really don’t care at all about reading your comments. You’re just a BR shill, nothing more or less.

799. Ahmed - February 17, 2015

@780. Red Dead Ryan & 791. Marja,

You two, stop talking RIGHT NOW about CBS & Viacom merger, we had enough of your ‘BR is evil’ agenda! /S

800. Phil - February 17, 2015

@797-799….

Like I said, so very predictable.

Oh, as you seem to like to take things out of context, you may want to remove the dates from comments. It just makes you look stupid, if I had said at the end of January that there hadn’t been a change in the writing team, you might have had a point….

A BR shill? While supportive of their efforts, you cannot find ANYWHERE where I’ve said their work is above criticism. Except in your universe, that hardly makes me a shill…

Oh, as we were discussing a corporate merger, or at least the possibility of one, BR didn’t even enter the conversation until you tried to tie it back into your anti-BR agenda. Look around this board, people disagree all the time without resorting to name calling, you if you can’t unknot your undies and actually contribute something, say, useful, instead of your non-stop rants, just take your dog and pony show back over to the main threads. You can go back to bloviating there all you want, as the admins seem to be back on permanent vacation there….

801. Ahmed - February 17, 2015

@800. Phil,

“Oh, as we were discussing a corporate merger, or at least the possibility of one, BR didn’t even enter the conversation until you tried to tie it back into your anti-BR agenda. ”

What a lair.

Do you see BR anywhere in the two comments that I made about the merge at #792 & #793?

It was you who brought BR in your comment #795. You are not only a shill but a LAIR as well.

Get lost.

802. Ahmed - February 17, 2015

Liar

803. B Kramer - February 17, 2015

Phil you’re so full of it, I’m so false outraged.

804. Phil - February 17, 2015

Ahmed, you embarrass yourself badly when you just blindly assume the stupidity of those who don’t agree with you. Do your homework, and go elsewhere to stir your ‘I hate BR’ pot elsewhere before you start calling people liars. I stand by what I said, and understand your irritation when people point out your bias. Just take it someplace else….

805. Phil - February 17, 2015

My outrage is outraged. Outrageous! The fullness of my full of it is offended! Offensive, I say! Offensively outraged!

I fart in your general direction….

Apologies to Monty Python…

806. Harry Ballz - February 17, 2015

Isn’t the Chat Room usually free of this kind of vicious verbal venom?

(oooh, nice alliteration)

Please, serenity now! :>)

807. B Kramer - February 17, 2015

804 Shat on you too. Apologies to Kirk.

808. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 17, 2015

Harry. Non sequitur. Your facts are uncoordinated.

Oops. Not Perfect. Must be Stearlised.
Lol

809. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 17, 2015

Ok. If there are anymore really bad Outragiousness that are really and I mean Really False.
Then I will start posting Nude Picks of Ericka Durance.
So There!!!.

810. Phil - February 17, 2015

Really? I’m pretty much up for anything nude at the moment….

Sorry, Harry. I know that offends the sensibilities, but in light of our super successful screen adaptation of a really bad fan fic this weekend, maybe a little …ahem…pain is in order.

811. Cygnus-X1 - February 17, 2015

Maybe after Les Moonves buys CBS, he’ll give Paramount an ultimatum to put Shatner in the next Trek movie…

Shatner in the next Trek movie…

Shatner in the next Trek movie…

Shatner in the next Trek movie…

[as if echoing]

812. Red Dead Ryan - February 17, 2015

#805.

“Please, serenity now! :>)”

Serenity now….insanity later! :-)

813. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 17, 2015

#811. Red Dead Ryan.

Non sequitur. Your facts are uncoordinated.

814. Harry Ballz - February 17, 2015

@810 Phil

That’s okay, Phil. Looking at Durance naked is equal to watching a trainwreck, or some other calamity, which is still better than arguing about crap.

815. Cygnus-X1 - February 18, 2015

What’s the problem with Erica Durance naked?

816. Ahmed - February 18, 2015

@804. Phil the liar,

Again, get lost.

817. Phil - February 18, 2015

@816. Ahmed, go grind the axe somewhere else. The bad vibe is bringing the room down….

818. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 18, 2015

As the Emperor of the Empire. I decree no more arguing in the Chat Room.
Penility is 3 hours in the Agony Booth at full strength.

819. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 18, 2015

Ok guys. Let’s keep the chat room a happy place. Ahmed and Phil. Please keep your fun on the main chat and not here.

820. Phil - February 18, 2015

@815. Harry has a secret. He found out the hard way that Erica’s birth name was Eric. Scared for life, and a new found appreciation for Ray Davies…

821. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 18, 2015

Now for todays show. Fun with Harry.

His Fave girl Ericka Durance. Lol.
https://goyoman.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/ericadurance_17041.jpg

822. Harry Ballz - February 18, 2015

@821

Yeah, thanks for sharing, Emperor Mike!

Look how wide apart those legs are…..better tie a board on your back so you don’t fall in!

The horror, the horror……..

823. Ahmed - February 18, 2015

11 sci-fi shows from the 1990s that deserve a revival along with The X-Files

http://www.blastr.com/2015-2-16/11-sci-fi-shows-1990s-deserve-revival-along-x-files

I wouldn’t mind seeing some of these shows with new cast. Might add “Millennium” & “Nowhere Man” as well.

824. Phil - February 18, 2015

Hey, I was on the phone with Kaiser broker support for three hours yesterday. Three hours in the Agony Booth would be a welcome vacation from that little trip to hell….otherwise, happy happy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6Sxv-sUYtM

825. Phil - February 18, 2015

Erica without makeup…..and TOPLESS!!

http://thinknice.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/hairy-guy-blends-with-couch.jpg

826. Harry Ballz - February 18, 2015

@825 Phil

And that’s her on a GOOD day!

:>)

827. Disinvited - February 18, 2015

# 812. Red Dead Ryan – February 17, 2015, 806. Harry Ballz – February 17, 2015

” Serenity now….insanity later! :-)” — Red Dead Ryan

Hey, leave Joss Whedon out of this, or I’ll use it as an excuse to post a Gail Berman update that I was trying to find a way of posting out there, here.

828. Disinvited - February 18, 2015

# 750. CmdrR – February 13, 2015

“…Channing Tatum. He handles the physicality of his role of Caine (part wolf, part chicken, part male stripper, ALL Starland Express…” — CmdrR

I know you addressed it, but I can’t help but wonder if someone’s subconscious wasn’t looking for a little afternoon delight amongst all the skyrockets in flight around here?

829. CmdrR - February 18, 2015

AdmrR handles my skyrocket, morning, noon, and night, thankyouverymuch.

Yes, I would love to see an edit button for these posts…

830. CmdrR - February 18, 2015

Actually, if we do a Kickstarter, do you think we could raise enough quatloos to get a story every other Tuesday, an edit button, and a flame filter?

831. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 18, 2015

YEs. A Kickstarter. One. We in the LIve Chat can run Trekmovie. Two. We can Edit and Delte anyone we find offinsive.
Sounds good to me.

832. Red Dead Ryan - February 18, 2015

#827.

It was a “Seinfeld” reference. The line was quoted by Lloyd Braun.

And I did read the Gail Berman bit. Nice to see Lloyd Braun staying out of the nuthouse and succeeding in life. :-)

833. Phil - February 18, 2015

Woo hoo!! For five Quattloo’s I can have my name up in lights…

Trek Movie Staff. Has a nice ring to it.

834. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 18, 2015

The new Trekmovie Staff will have Harry. King of Ballz.

835. Phil - February 18, 2015

Hey, Harry does this for a living, he can have his own byline.

I have dibs on Science Saturday. I’ll change my moniker to Staff Infection.

836. Staff Infection - February 18, 2015

Mongo, where are you?

837. Cygnus-X1 - February 18, 2015

Harry, what gave you the idea that Erica Durance is a tranny?

838. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 18, 2015

I’ll throw in some Star Trek Tos on Ocassion.
Here is one for an example.

I found this on youtube. It’s called.
The Doomsday Machine revealed. Some really great stuff about it. They even compare some of the music of this Ep with Jaws. You will be shocked once you see it. Here is the Link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAfEXDCsRmg

839. Harry Ballz - February 18, 2015

Cygnus-X1, I don’t think Durance is a tranny. I’m only joking when I say she’s ugly.

What I will say is that she is one of the worst actors I have ever seen in entertainment.

There is a new winner for worst, though. The female lead in The Blacklist.

WORST ACTOR IN THE WORLD! GAWD, IS SHE EVER BAD!

840. Disinvited - February 18, 2015

# 837. Harry Ballz – February 18, 2015

” WORST ACTOR IN THE WORLD! GAWD, IS SHE EVER BAD!” — Harry Ballz

I think we have our leads for SyFy’s next SHARKNADO sequel.

841. Cygnus-X1 - February 18, 2015

Do you have a clip?

Kristin Stewart from those Twilight movies is often mentioned as one of the worst female actors getting regular work in Hollywood.

That guy who played Hercules—Kevin Sorbo—was pretty bad. He just had no delivery to his lines.

842. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 18, 2015

Hey Cygnus. I actually liked Sorbo In Hercules. I thought he actually did a good job. But. As Scotty always says. Everyone is Entitled to an Opnion. Lol.

843. AJ - February 19, 2015

842:

Mike,

Scotty said that only once, and it got him into a lot of trouble.

844. Cygnus-X1 - February 19, 2015

Apparently Norm MacDonald revealed via Twitter that Eddie Murphy’s beef with SNL over the years has been entirely attributable to a (that is, one) joke told by David Spade during his “Spade in America” bit on Weekend Update in the early 90s: “Look children, a falling star,” as Murphy’s image was displayed in the background.

MacDonald was very charitable to Murphy, saying that Eddie refused to play Bill Cosby on the Celebrity Jeopardy skit during the 40th Anniversary show, because he “wouldn’t kick a man when he’s down.” That’s well and good, and Keenan Thompson wound up playing the role on the show. But it doesn’t explain why Murphy made no attempt whatsoever to be entertaining or to do anything other than basically accept his award (Chris Rock’s 3-minute praise-a-thon) for being awesome.

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/eddie-murphy-snl-bill-cosby-celebrity-jeopardy-norm-macdonald-1201436664/

845. CmdrR - February 19, 2015

OK, we now know who bought the Trek van in Canadera. The article mentions a “well-known Canadian musician.” That’s a relative statement.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/02/18/bc-star-trek-boogie-van-sold-danny-michel_n_6710078.html

846. Phil - February 19, 2015

Sorbo is in that category of actors who are basically Schwarzenegger wannabes. Delivery isn’t so much an issue as being a big, decent looking guy, with some degree of likeability. Dolph Lundgren still gets work, and makes Sorbo look like Orson Wells in comparison….

847. AJ - February 19, 2015

New Mad Max: Fury Road international trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YFuB3wuge0

I enjoyed the first two MM films. Third was a waste.

This one looks either super-uber-cool, or like a lot of style over substance.

Thoughts?

848. Ahmed - February 19, 2015

Fox is reviving ‘Alien’ franchise.

Neill Blomkamp to Tackle New ‘Alien’ Film for Fox

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/neill-blomkamp-tackle-new-alien-775112

849. Phil - February 19, 2015

@847. It looks like it has been converted from a study on the decent of man to a CGI super special effects spectacular extravaganza. Not really interested at this point….

850. Red Dead Ryan - February 19, 2015

I heard “Alien 5″ will take place in between “Aliens” and “Alien 3″. Bryan Singer tried this approach of sandwiching “Superman Returns” between the first two and final two of the Chris Reeve film, with tepid results.

Hopefully, Neill Blomkamp won’t screw it up with too much adherence to canon.

851. CmdrR - February 19, 2015

850 – How many times can we watch the Starbeast lose? It becomes unintentional comedy. The Alien universe is interesting enough. I’d love to see what ELSE is out among the stars that humanity has so glibbly claimed for itself.

BTW, you guys should really get in on the comment section for Mission Log Podcast. (links are always here on TM). They just did “The Outrageous Okona,” which is a true Trek Turkey. Get out your steely knives and just kill the beast!!

852. Phil - February 19, 2015

Outrageous! Fake outrage need not apply.

853. Phil - February 19, 2015

@851. We are going to watch the starbeast lose every single time. Superman will always prevail, the Force will always be with us, the AVengers will avenge, and Jason or Freddy always die in the end. Just like Trek bad guys dying, or Kirk and crew always sailing off into the sunset. There are just something the fan base won’t tolerate any deviation from. I’m mentioned before that Nick Meyer should have trusted his instincts and left Spock dead at the end of WOK, and have been soundly berated for that.

We want originality, but only as long as it fits into our tight little definition of what ‘Trek” is. You can do what you want with it, as long as you do this, this, and this…..and this, too.

854. Red Dead Ryan - February 19, 2015

Well, we’ve seen the reaction of many Trekkies concerning BR abandoning the old timeline.

855. CmdrR - February 19, 2015

It would be great if they did take some chances. There’s still time to blow up the Enterprise and replace her with one that has normal-sized nacelles. Let’s have Sulu come out as gay — in a tasteful way, please. PLEASE have Spock and Uhura break up and agree to work together in a professional manner. There’s still time to explain that Khan’s blood doesn’t cure all forms of death and may have a shelf-life. Hell, they can say that Khan’s midichlorians quit the universe and headed to a galaxy far, far away. Beam-in-a-box technology? Gives ya cancer. YEAH! BOOM! Problem solved. Kirk should also have the moment with Carol Marcus in which they decide he’s not Daddy material. That would be nice.

What am I saying? It’ll be 2 hours 23 minutes of cg ‘splosions and fist-fights.

856. Cygnus-X1 - February 19, 2015

847. AJ – February 19, 2015

New Mad Max: Fury Road international trailer.

This one looks either super-uber-cool, or like a lot of style over substance. Thoughts?

Like the previous trailer, this one tells/shows us nothing about the story or any theme in it. Again, all that they’re showing us is the great production value and action set pieces. It all makes me rather *yawwwn* uninterested in the movie.

857. Harry Ballz - February 19, 2015

How about having the next movie return to the flavour of TOS, with Captain Kirk either fighting or f*cking every thing he meets!

Boo-yeah!

858. AJ - February 19, 2015

So much for the B vs.S and Justice League films not sucking:

http://nukethefridge.com/2015/02/19/first-look-at-aquaman-from-in-batman-v-superman/

859. Harry Ballz - February 20, 2015

AJ, you’ve got that right!

AQUAMAN??

What were they f*cking thinking??!!

Nobody gives a sweet shit about Aquaman!!!! What a stupid character!

860. Marja - February 20, 2015

I am so fake outraged I’m fake outraged with the power of a thousand burning suns! And that makes me the Truest Trekfan ever! Anything anyone says that is contrary to my opinion is not a True Fan! I hope you constant naysayers of whichever stripe spend hours in the Agony Booth! Scrr am like Chekov baby, scream like Chekov …

And Phil 805, with a little adaptation and more apologies to Python … “Ohhh, let’s not talk about ‘oo killed Trek. Chat is supposed to be a ‘appy occasion!”

821 Emperor Mike, so is she Canadian as I thought, adding “traitorous opportunist” to her list of Great Accomplishments? Or is she trying out for a floozy version of “CHIPS”?

837 Cygnus. She has enviable Deltoid development I MUST say!

844 yeah I would love to have seen how Mr Robinson is doin’ in his neighborhood. My bet is it got gentrified and Mr Robinson no longer wants to keel his landlord because he was able to sublet his ren controled apt to some yuppie woth too damn much money ;-)

855 Cmdr R, well I agree with you on Sulu tastefully coming out .. but personally would love to see Spock and Uhura still together. In fact I might even like to see them gettin jiggy. Just not during a mission. I agree with your Kirk and Carol comment tho. Yeah Khan’s blood extract chould have a shelf life. Or Pernicious Effects. But smaller nacelles!?? Bite yer tongue man, I like me Enterprise nacelles ample, if ye know wha I mean. I would like them to lose the rocketship tailfins though. The hell’s up with that?

I’m just hoping it’s not two hrs of STAR TREK: FAST AND FURIOUS …

Heh-heh Harry, we could see some Kirk and CMarcus fuckin and fightin …

AQUAMAN? Hellz even Raj didn’t want play Aquaman in a costume contest in “Big Bang Theory” …
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My comment way up there about any CBS merger … I forgot Moonves wanted to be the buyer. So unless the merger happens and Moonves sells Trek to a studio that actually cares about it … BOOOOO.

861. Cygnus-X1 - February 20, 2015

Looks like they’ve styled Aquaman after Poseidon with his trident.

Though, Aquaman, with his specific super powers, did always seem like the odd man among the main Superfriends: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ3HU03u7Ls

862. CmdrR - February 20, 2015

Aquaman is handled better in some of the recent Justice League animated features.
Bringing in the guy from Stargate: Atlantis does not bode well. Then again, another actor from that show appeared in Rise of the Planet of the Apes without screwing up the whole thing, so…

We shall see…

863. CmdrR - February 20, 2015

Actually, I thought Jason Momoa quit acting altogether after that incident on the set of Game of Thrones…

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=robot+chicken+game+of+thrones&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=02BB1C11B199B93317FD02BB1C11B199B93317FD

864. CmdrR - February 20, 2015

Actually, I thought Jason Momoa gave up acting after that incident on the set of Game of Thrones…

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=robot+chicken+game+of+thrones&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=02BB1C11B199B93317FD02BB1C11B199B93317FD

865. CmdrR - February 21, 2015

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2015/02/150220-europa-alien-nasa-clipper-plumes-science/

Love that we call the Europaeans “aliens.” F@c<in' Humans!"

866. CmdrR - February 21, 2015

Worthwhile just to check Robert Picardo’s picture:

http://www.treknews.net/2015/02/19/shatner-helps-star-trek-actors-twitter-verified/

Stuff n nonsense:

http://technabob.com/blog/2015/02/19/star-trek-captains-chair-pool-float/

867. Harry Ballz - February 21, 2015

Here are my Oscar picks (not who should win, but will win):

BEST PICTURE: BOYHOOD
BEST DIRECTOR: RICHARD LINKLATER
BEST ACTOR: EDDIE REDMAYNE
BEST ACTRESS: JULIANNE MOORE
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR: J.K. SIMMONS
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS: PATRICIA ARQUETTE
BEST SONG: GLORY
BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY: GRAND BUDAPEST HOTEL
BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY: WHIPLASH
BEST FOREIGN FILM: IDA

Anyone got different choices?

868. CmdrR - February 22, 2015

Thanks, Harry.
Since I’ve seen exactly one film on your list (Grand Budapest) I can skip the broadcast and watch the highlights on YouTube.

And the Oscar Apology by an Academy that Rarely Pulls Its Head Out of Its Ass goes to… “The Lego Movie.”

869. AJ - February 22, 2015

The Oscars these days seems to be the consolation prize for films that still need some additional butts-in-seats just to break even (Titanic and Return of the King aside).

The Razzies have a higher combined sales (and profitability) count this year than the Oscars, once again thanks to a “Transformers” entry.

Not saying that a film’s quality should be judged on it’s B.O., but if no one actually cares enough to watch the thing, why bother? If a tree falls in the woods with no-one around to hear, does it make a noise? If a wonderful film is made that no one wants, or cares to see, is it still wonderful?

There was a time when truly great films with high sales numbers were nominated for, and won Oscars. Now, the story is whom they can persuade to host, and to what extent they can water down the entries to appeal to the actual movie-going audience (ratings), and not just the mutual m*sturbation society in the Academy of Arts and Sciences.

Maybe I’m wrong, but let’s just see of Antonio Banderas gets nominated next year for his latest star turn in “Spongebob.” He’s been around long enough now that he should get one for something.

870. Red Dead Ryan - February 22, 2015

I’ve seen some of the movies. “Birdman” and “Boyhood” are great. Yeah, blockbusters don’t get nominated much anymore, despite the expansion of the “Best Film” list. “The Lego Movie” deserved a nomination, but the academy discounted it because of the fifteen minute live action scene near the end of the movie.

There’s an air of phoniness that comes with the Oscars. Lack of diversity. Male actors looking like penguins. Stupid questions directed at actresses by idiot reporters. Stale, politically-correct jokes. Lame gags. Stuffy atmosphere. Presentations by people we’ve never heard of. Or care about.

And they hand out one award per hour. Award shows should be fun, but somehow, the academy makes it boring and tedious. Just hand out the damn awards already!

871. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 22, 2015

To me the one movie that should win for best picture is The American Sniper. Not only did it break the bank at the B.O but it is an Incredible movie with real Drama and some damn good acting by Bradly Cooper. He nailed it as Chris Kyle and what he went through. If any other movie wins. Then The Oscars are truly a Joke.
But that is just my opnion.

872. Red Dead Ryan - February 22, 2015

Neil Patrick Harris on stage embarrasing himself in his underwear. And what the hell is up with the briefcase in the locked box?

Who the f#ck comes up with this sh#t??

873. Red Dead Ryan - February 22, 2015

I think the Academy would find “American Sniper” too controversial. They tend to play it safe.

874. Red Dead Ryan - February 22, 2015

John (The Toupee) Travolta creeping out actresses. Good god, this show is f#ckin’ terrible!

875. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 22, 2015

I agree on Neil Patrick Harris. He has not done a good job. I think most of his jokes are falling a little flat.
Next year they should get Seth Macfarland back. Now he was funny.

876. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 22, 2015

Red Dead Ryan. You are probly right. It wont win because it does not fall into the Uber Libreal Hollywood’s nich.

877. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 22, 2015

It’s offical!. Lady Gaga has Stolen the Oscar’s with her performance of The Sound of Music. WOW!!!!!

878. Red Dead Ryan - February 22, 2015

“Birdman” wins Best Picture Oscar!

879. AJ - February 22, 2015

Seth McFarlane needs to redeem himself after “100 Ways to Die in the West,” which was generally awful. Also, I think he pretty much hated his last Oscars gig, and said so publicly (though it was funny, and he is a charismatic performer).

I guess I have to try out “Birdman.” I heard “Boyhood” was just gimmicky and awful to watch, but whatever.

880. Red Dead Ryan - February 22, 2015

Seth McFarlane will never host the Oscars again — guaranteed. He hated it, and it’s clear the academy hated him.

881. Harry Ballz - February 22, 2015

Huh, only got 6 out of 10 right.

882. Cygnus-X1 - February 23, 2015

Where’d you get that Seth MacFarlane hated hosting the Oscars?

The Academy hating him, well that’s to be expected. I could have told you they’d have that reaction before the show began. But, I’d like to know why MacFarlane hated it. He should have known that he’d get a decidedly mixed reaction to his style of humor, which is meant to be offensive.

883. CmdrR - February 23, 2015

I will say Travolta’s new rug looks worlds better than the Astro-turf he wore for a while there.

And — hey! — I actually saw Birdman and liked it. American Sniper is a good movie. I think Eastwood offered balance in Bradley Cooper’s character to show the anguish of becoming a killing machine. The film could certainly have used some (any) character development as far as muslims are concerned. They’re just targets in this flick. I am afraid that played right into a growing tide of people who would love to go to war and wipe out the muslim threat. A.S. is Rambo for a new generation. Instead of going back to ‘Nam and correcting our failure there, now we’re sending one guy to kill ALL the muslims. Mind you, I think that is the audience reading in… NOT the fault of a fairly good film about the horrors of war. (The fake baby is still hilarious!!)

**steps off of soap box**

884. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 23, 2015

My top 5 list of host for the oscar’s for next year.
1. Whoopie Goldburg.
2. Billiy Crystal
3.Ellen Degeneres
4.Hugh Jackman
5.Jon Stewart.

885. Disinvited - February 23, 2015

# 884. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire – February 23, 2015

” My top 5 list of host for the oscar’s for next year.
1. Whoopie Goldburg.
2. Billiy Crystal
3.Ellen Degeneres
4.Hugh Jackman
5.Jon Stewart.” — Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire

There’s a joke in there about the other meaning of host. I just know it, but I’m too exhausted to find it.

886. Phil - February 23, 2015

Lost in the nonsense around the boards, it seems Leonard Nimoy isn’t doing to well these days.

http://www.mercurynews.com/celebrities/ci_27583795/leonard-nimoy-rushed-hospital-last-week

One would hope for a peaceful transition, if that time has come.

887. CmdrR - February 23, 2015

886 – Thanks for posting that, Phil. My father is about the age of Shat and Lenny. I need to visit him. Hoping for the best for Lenny. He has accomplished quite a bit over the years… hoping he gets one last time as Spock… in a true Trek classic.

888. CmdrR - February 23, 2015

btw – Happy Birthday, Majel. Somewhere, God’s computer is “wor-King.”

889. Marja - February 23, 2015

886 Phil, The writer of that article apparently does not know that COPD can surface years and years after the exposure. “Nimoy claims” … feh! It’s a fact, Jack.

I knew a woman with COPD who had been a nurse for years, back in the days when everyone smoked, and doctors worst of all. She herself was a smoker for a short time, but the second-hand exposure didn’t help. Which makes me kinda quake in my boots.

I agree completely with you … if Nimoy does make his transition, it’ll break my heart, but he will do so with a legacy of legions of fans who appreciate him for so many reasons … not least because of his excellent portrayal of an iconic character.

890. Phil - February 23, 2015

@888. Hey, he’s an entertainment reporter. Cut him some slack.

Nimoy has definitely grown beyond the role, and no doubt his philanthropy will be remembered as well, as the theater at the Griffith Observatory bears his name. I certainly wish the man well…

891. Cygnus-X1 - February 23, 2015

(((NIMOY)))

Hope you get well soon.

892. Cygnus-X1 - February 23, 2015

My top 5 list of host for the Oscar’s for next year:

(1) Seth MacFarlane

(2) “A.L.F.” (Alien Life-form from the 80s TV show)

(3) That Peter Griffin impersonator from ComicCon

(4) Bill Shatner

(5) The ghosts of Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett (drunk)

(6) Bob Orci and David Gerrold

(7) John Travolta and Scarlett Johansson

(8) John Travolta,Tom Cruise and Neil Patrick Harris

(9) Seth MacFarlane and strident feminist attorney Gloria Allred.

(10) John Travolta, Tom Cruise and George Takei

(11) Bill Shatner and George Takei

(12) K-a-t-e M-u-l-g-r-e-w and J-e-r-i R-y-a-n

(13) Bill Cosby and the 2015 Miss America contestants

(14) John Travolta, Tom Cruise and Ian McKellan

(15) Taylor Swift, Beck and the ghost of Kanye West

(16) Kim Kardashian and Marc Alaimo (an inside joke just for the Trekkies)

893. Cygnus-X1 - February 23, 2015

2016* Miss America contestants

894. CmdrR - February 23, 2015

886 – Dang, this site ate my well wishes for Leonard.

Anyway — I truly hope he rallies and that he is a fine part of one more great Trek classic film.

895. CmdrR - February 23, 2015

And now it’s back. 887. Half a dozen other posts were re-numbered in its absence and then fixed when it reappeared.

I want every electron responsible rounded-up for questioning! This is just too strange.

896. CmdrR - February 23, 2015

LN has a bittersweet tweet from last night. No idea how to cut and paste on my phone, so maybe someone else can. Or TM can if the staff isn’t snowed under with PotA crossover updates.

897. Disinvited - February 23, 2015

#896. CmdrR – February 23, 2015

You mean his “Life is like a garden…” tweet?:

https://twitter.com/TheRealNimoy/status/569762773204217857

Wish the best for Mr. Nimoy and have high hopes for him even even though my family’s own experience with COPD would be enough to make anyone pessimistic.

898. CmdrR - February 23, 2015

Thanks, D.

899. Ahmed - February 23, 2015

Best wishes for a speedy recovery, Mr. Nimoy.

900. AJ - February 23, 2015

Live Longer and Prosper!

901. Harry Ballz - February 23, 2015

I worry that Nimoy, with his smoking and drinking history, may not have much time left.

In some respects it’s amazing he’s made it this far.

902. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 23, 2015

Live Long and Prosper Mr. Nimoy. To not recover quickly would be. Illogicle.

903. AJ - February 24, 2015

My dear old mom had COPD from a long history of smoking, but it was the cancer that got her.

As Harry mentioned, 84 is quite far considering Nimoy’s history. He stopped his heavy drinking and smoking a while back, which counts towards that in a big way.

Frankly, the fact that he has been busy doing his thing (photography, with Star Trek here and there) has probably kept him going for such a long time. Still sharp and active, he has had no reason to give up the ghost as yet.

904. Phil - February 24, 2015

True, AJ, but with the mind being strong, but the body weak, inevitably it will be the weaker vessel that makes the decision.

I have a bias here, as both of my parents passed when I was fairly young, I have become quite the proponent of hospice – when one’s time has come, there is no shame in a dignified, peaceful passing. I don’t know Mr. Nimoy’s prognosis, nor his personal wishes, but if he has arrived at the conclusion that it’s not a case of if, but when, then we as the fan base need to respect that…if it’s time to say good-bye, then honor the man and his work by letting him go.

905. Spockchick - February 24, 2015

@903 AJ

I agree, have seen so many people retire then go right down hill. My wonderful neighbour is in her 80s with COPD and has good days and bad days. I hope this is a blip, but I’m not daft enough to know that people live forever :-)

906. CmdrR - February 24, 2015

If anyone is interested, in light of LN’s situation or for personal reasons, Dr. Atal Gawande’s “Being Mortal” spells out the pros and cons of home care vs. hospice vs. other options. It’s perhaps not the cheeriest book you’ll read this year, but it’s very important.

907. Phil - February 24, 2015

Here is the link to the Frontline program

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/being-mortal/

This isn’t being morbid – it’s a reality all will deal with, and transitions are so much more peaceful when ones wishes are well communicated.

908. CmdrR - February 24, 2015

On a lighter note… if you love the JJPrise, then this link is not for you. But, if you kinda like that clunky thing they designed in the ’60s… it’s worth a peek:

http://cargocollective.com/nickacosta/Old-Glory

(This should be on the main page, btw.)

909. Phil - February 24, 2015

@908. Hey, it is worth a peek if you like the JJPrise, too.

910. Phil - February 24, 2015

Thank you, admins….

911. Marja - February 24, 2015

As Spockchick says let’s hope it’s just a blip. I’m wishing him strength and peace. I know all y’all are too.

912. AJ - February 24, 2015

My mom was in hospice for several weeks, and, it being South Florida (“God’s waiting room”), they plied her with so many drugs that she hallucinated, as well as became angered that she was made so helpless. She preferred a better balance of pain and lucidity rather than spending the last days of her life in a dumb haze. I had to fight often with nurses and attending physicians to allow her wishes to be heard.

Point is, the drug producers want to sell as many drugs as possible, and the staff want efficient and cost-effective turnover, so overdose ‘em and get ‘em in and out as quickly as possible; they’ll lie to you about how your loved one is “better off” over-medicated, and they are under far less scrutiny as they are the last stop before the cemetery in all cases.

913. CmdrR - February 25, 2015

AJ — I was with my mom when the doctor told her her cancer had metastasized from her lung to her brain. The a-hole then proceeded to explain to her the next THREE treatments they would try. I wanted to kick the jerk, but said nothing. My mom was smart enough to know, I think, the facts of her situation. In the end, she spent a brief period in a hospice — in and out of her mind — before passing.
I really think we need “death panels,” though maybe someone could come up with a less inflamatory name, to help professionals learn to focus on realistic and humane courses of action for the terminally ill.

914. Phil - February 25, 2015

I’ll admit to a bias – my wife is an RN – so there does need to be some understanding that the medical community is still, for the most part, trained in the concept that ‘do no harm’ means (attempting to) preserving life, regardless of the outcome. That is why we need to be discussing the Brittany Maynard’s and Michael Schiavo’s of the world, to push the medical community to understand that if the wishes of the family are for either no intervention, or heroic intervention, those wishes need to honored. I’m not a proponent of a third party making these decisions – advanced directives need to be made a common occurrence, and the medical community needs to be taught that honoring them isn’t a reflection on their training or responsibility.

915. CmdrR - February 25, 2015

Phil — I would support general guidelines. I don’t want a fully scripted response to hypothetical situations. However, I do believe that the medical community has to accept what Dr. Gawande spells out: there are two things medicine cannot fix, aging and dying. To cash in on the last months of a person’s life is obscene and certainly contrary to the Hippocratic Oath. It matters little whether the person selling you snake oil and lies is working out of his car or representing a multi-national conglomerate.

916. Marja - February 25, 2015

915 CmdrR, I am really hoping that Dr Gawande has started a discussion that will eventually lead to good policy and better medical practices.

Does not First Do No Harm apply to performing useless and awful interventions on patients at the end of life? It’s just horrifying and the cynical part of me thinks that really it’s just an attempt at milking more money out of patients and Medicare. Obscene.

Meanwhile, have saner voices shut TUP the hell up on the Nimoy Hospitalized thread? Thanks for yr efforts there Phil. Ugh, what a place for his “worthy” opinions

917. Phil - February 25, 2015

@915. Hospice is still a work in progress, and I agree, the medical community is going to need to adjust it’s ethics practices accordingly. I had reacquainted with a friend last year who confided he was terminal, and when he went to hospice, he had the opposite problem, in that he couldn’t get any medications at all to ease the pain of the cancer that claimed him.

@916 You would have appreciated a segment on NPR a couple of weeks ago – a group of citizens and a group of doctors were both asked about death with dignity, as expected, most agreed that passing in your sleep, or surrounded by family and friends was preferred. The same groups where then asked about specific life saving procedures – most of the citizens were okay with them, but the doctors were against their use, and by a wide margin. the doctors said no. Obviously, that begged the question, why? Well, using CPR as an example – media tends to depict it being successful about 75% of the time (makes for great drama, though), when in reality it’s only successful about 8% of the time…and of that 8%, there is only a recovery 3%, with the other 5% saving the life, but inflicting serious damage in the process. The point? The general public has some really unrealistic expectations about what the practice of medicine can do, and it severely taints the end-of-life decision making process. Further, shows like Trek also continue to feed that expectation, where just about everything is cured with a hypo-spray…or genetically enhanced blood.

Yeah, Brian shut down pointless off topic debate, though that hasn’t stopped individuals from behaving badly in the past.

918. Marja - February 26, 2015

Phil, I remember the first time pain was inflicted on me as part of rhe healing process — I was so shocked! I had expected something more like “Medical Center” with handsome Chad Everett telling me I needed a serious medical procedure and me waking up from surgery, beautifully coiffed and made up ….

No one in my family — besides my mother, who passed away before I was old enough to understand anything about sickness or even death — ever spent extensive time in the hospital. Any illnesses or injuries we had were minor. (But two decade-older brothers were in car accidents and I didn’t see them in hospital because I was still too young). So I had NO IDEA what it meant to go to the hospital, even.

It wasn’t till my car got front-ended in 1997 that I internalized some medical knowledge for reals. And thank god I had seen “ER” in which pain — and a little more “real” medicine featured largely. So explanations for things occurred to me as I lay all alone in my cubicle in pain. They don’t give pain meds til they can examine you thoroughly! And one curtain over they were dealing with an MI — “oh,” I thought, “a myocardial infarction! Poor person is dying over there, no wonder they can’t come check on my little problems” …

You are so right, so many of us have not the slightest idea. And the fact that people we might know who are sick try to brush it off and spare us the details contributes to that, but bless them for it and allow them to not have to say things over and over.

Meanwhile I have learned to view the word “discomfort” with great suspicion if uttered by a nurse or doctor.

We need lots more reality checks in this country. The idea, I think, that a little pill will cure your ill is one so endemic because of widespread advertising by Big Pharma.

My feelings on the end of life might be distasteful, but I feel the patient should be in total control, honestly informed, and aided by medical professionals specializing in end of life care and decision making. But the patient gets to make the decision. We should get a counselling session long before we end up in any hospital, and together with a medico, express our exact wishes about the ends of our lives. I’m sure bureaucracy and illusion will still have their way with us, though.

919. CmdrR - February 26, 2015

“The idea, I think, that a little pill will cure your ill is one so endemic because of widespread advertising by Big Pharma.”

It’s try the TV ad includes copy that warns of side-effects ranging from blurred vision to explosive diarrhea… Hey, if you weren’t depressed before taking XxrQperatozate, you will be once you blow out the back of your blue jeans! … but the accompanying visuals show happy seniors (she’s a good 15 younger than he is) enjoying a dream vacation of horseback riding and spelunking. Of course the visuals (and positive message) win out over the negatives. That is exactly why the little miracle pills should not be advertised on TV!!! No one should march into a doctor’s office saying GIVE ME THAT PILL THAT I SEE ON THE TV THERE!!!! A doctor should be knowledgeable to what’s out there. He/She certainly has access to various databases of info. But, ONLY an in-person professional should discuss your options. Not Henrietta HappyVoice talking about the amazing amaranth pill.

920. CmdrR - February 26, 2015

“It’s true”

921. Phil - February 26, 2015

Oh, I still sell he@lth 1nsur@nce, and back before the ACA, I was horrified at the number of people who would just expect the doc to hand over a script for what they saw on TV. It’s still a problem for a life !nsur@nce app, as people don’t realize even though they may not fill the script, it’s still on the record….and can bite you on the butt later.

I’m generally in favor of open information, but firmly believe meds should not be advertised.

922. Phil - February 27, 2015

Oh, my…Mr. Nimoy has made the transition….

923. Trekk - February 27, 2015

Live Long and Prosper Leonar \\//_

924. kriK semaJ - February 27, 2015

Sad day

925. CmdrR - February 27, 2015

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/spock-actor-leonard-nimoy-has-died-according-to-report-2015-02-27

So very sad.
And yet… what a tremendous life!!!!!!

926. 'Beach - February 27, 2015

When I learned he was hospitalized, i feared the worst and honestly expected this. From all reports he seemed in a bad way.

But note that this very site has yet to report on this momentous occasion?

Nonetheless, Spock himself, torch passed, will, indeed, live long, and prosper.

927. Red Dead Ryan - February 27, 2015

“Of my friend, I can only say this: of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most….human.”

Live long and prosper, Mr. Nimoy. You will be missed, but you will always be admired and loved by so many. Your contributions will live on, your talents will be remembered, and your spirit will be immortal.

928. k - February 27, 2015

I’m not religious or particularly political, but to paraphrase a great speech:

Leonard Nimoy honored us by the manner in which he lived his life. We will never forget him, nor the last time we saw him. He has now prepared for the final journey and waved goodbye and slipped the surly bonds of earth to touch the face of God.

929. kriK semaJ - February 27, 2015

not k

930. 'Beach - February 27, 2015

“…He’s not really dead, as long as we…remember him..”

Spock yet lives.

931. kriK semaJ - February 27, 2015

Mr Nimoy honored us by the manner in which he lived his life We will never forget him, nor the last time we saw him. He has now prepared for the final journey and waved goodbye and ‘slipped the surly bonds of earth’ to ‘touch the face of God.’

932. kriK semaJ - February 27, 2015

Sorry
Didn’t mean to double post.

933. Disinvited - February 27, 2015

Harrison Ford has signed on to do BLADE RUNNER II? This is turning into one surreal news day.

934. Marja - February 27, 2015

Man … I just found out about an hour ago. … Don’t think it’s really hit me yet. Sympathies to his family, and to his many friends. And to all my fellow Trek fans.

We have lost a true friend. A man who did much to popularize science …. promote tolerance … and help others. What a wonderful role model, who overcame personal demons and became a true role model for people who want to live good lives and contribute to the well-being of others.

I kinda can’t believe he isn’t here in this world any more. At least he will always be in our hearts.

935. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 27, 2015

I just found out and can’t believe it.
All I can say is.
He’s really not dead. As long as we remember him. Rest in peace Leonard Nimoy. You may be gone but never forgotten.

936. Red Dead Ryan - February 27, 2015

Deep down, I knew this day was coming. After hearing about his chest pains a few days ago, it was clear that he didn’t have much time left.

Sadly, he left us today. At least Scotty beamed him up to heaven. Re-united with Dr. McCoy and Scotty, as well as Gene and Majel Roddenberry. Enjoying some Saurian brandy while taking in the cosmos.

937. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 27, 2015

One of Leonard Nimoys last Commerical’s. It was so funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPkByAkAdZs

938. Red Dead Ryan - February 27, 2015

All of Vulcan is mourning Nimoy:

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/leonard-nimoy-mourned-in-canadian–home–of-vulcan–alberta-183212996.html

939. Harry Ballz - February 27, 2015

Such sad news. RIP Leonard Nimoy.

940. Red Dead Ryan - February 27, 2015

Man, that funeral scene at the end of TWOK is so much more poignant now.

941. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 27, 2015

Red Dead Ryan.
I don’t think we will ever see that scene the same way ever again.

942. Aurore - February 27, 2015

“Such sad news. RIP Leonard Nimoy.”

________________

This is a sad news, indeed.

May he rest in peace.

943. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 27, 2015

Huff Post posted 10 of Spocks best quotes.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/27/spock-quotes-where-no-man-has-gone-before_n_6770328.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

944. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 27, 2015

The Scifi Channel will do a mini Marathon for Leonard Nimoy on March 1st.

https://tv.yahoo.com/news/leonard-nimoy-honored-syfy-marathon-214908880.html

945. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 27, 2015

Leonard Nimoys screen debut. 1951

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/27/leonard-nimoy-first-movie_n_6770322.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

946. Marja - February 27, 2015

I finally cried tonight when leaving a phone message for another Trek friend. “It just hit me. [gulp. Sniffle] … end of an era”

I would be embarrassed but I think she understands.

947. AJ - February 27, 2015

RIP.

The heart and soul of it all.

A hero of mine almost all my life.

THE hero when push came to shove, especially when it became clear growing up how much of Spock was actually Leonard Nimoy as Spock, and not just words on a page read by an actor.

Shit.

948. Harry Ballz - February 28, 2015

AJ

nicely said, old friend. I agree.

949. Spockchick - February 28, 2015

Mr. Nimoy, it was an honour and a privilege to have ‘known’ him. What a nobility he brought to the role of Spock. I am sad, but heartened that he ‘died with his boots on’, and was tweeting (almost) to the last. LLAP, wherever you are sir.

950. Disinvited - February 28, 2015

Odd mysteries of factoids that come our way amidst this:

The morning news program says Nimoy’s family released today that Leonard died from lung cancer from years of smoking.

951. Disinvited - February 28, 2015

#950. Disinvited – February 28, 2015

Clearing my head a bit, I have to wonder that the reporting that Nimoy died of lung cancer this morning has to be a newsroom flub. BFWIW it has appeared on two networks but this one also gets his age wrong even though the actual URL has it right:

“The beloved Mr. Spock actor Leonard Nimoy, 82, revealed he was diagnosed with lung cancer 30 years after quitting smoking.” — ABC

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/leonard-nimoy-dies-age-83-29291151

952. Phil - February 28, 2015

@951. I suspect that was some very sloppy copy. Asides from referring to his character as Dr. Spock, the video (what I saw was truncated) said he had lung disease, while the headline said cancer. Now, lung cancer can be a symptom of end-stage COPD, and that might explain the pain, but no one, anywhere has said that was the case here.

Speculation seems rather pointless, either way

953. CmdrR - February 28, 2015

So, AJ… what do you make of the murder of Nemtsov? Was Putin silencing the opposition or did he just get tired of shooting tigers?
In any case, if you are heading back to Moscow, PLEASE wear your bullet-proof underoos.

954. Disinvited - February 28, 2015

# 952. Phil – February 28, 2015

” Speculation seems rather pointless, either way.” — Phil

Well, I’m always rather curious about how misinformation originates and how it spreads especially since the dawn of “the internet”. I suspect that video’s link of being the point of origin.

Besides how pointless could it be if Nimoy’s purpose in getting the message out was served by it in some small way, although one may well argue that the misinformation around it might get it too easily dismissed by those it needs to reach most?

What’s even more curious is ABC News’ obituary on Nimoy was free of this, yesterday
.

955. AJ - February 28, 2015

953:

CmdrR: I am actually leaving Moscow tomorrow (Sunday), and all potential scenarios for Nemtsov’s murder are in play.

They will either never find anything, or fabricate something which covers all the bases, and/or will show Nemtsov in cahoots with the USA-financed Kiev-based “fascist/Nazis” which many here believe is actually a thing.

Whoever did it, it certainly sets a new low for the whole situation here.

See y’all from New York!

956. Phil - February 28, 2015

Well, it looks like Shatner isn’t going to the service. Something about his schedule not allowing it. Stay classy, Bill.

957. Phll - February 28, 2015

Moderated. New sheriff in town, I guess. It’s been fun…

958. Harry Ballz - February 28, 2015

@955

So, starting early next week……LIVE, FROM NEW YORK….IT’S AJ’S NIGHT!

959. Phil - February 28, 2015

Where it’s a balmy 34 degrees…..

960. CmdrR - February 28, 2015

956 – Phil — “Moderated.”

que?

961. Phil - February 28, 2015

@ Harry…

Shatner took to social media today to let it be known he won’t be in attendance at Mr. Nimoys services. It appears that a charity event he is at in Florida will not release him from that obligation. Here are a couple of problems…
– This event tonight is a Red Cross fundraiser. While I was able to find plenty of them mentioned in Florida, I could not find any where Mr. Shatner was named as a participant. Now, it’s possible I might have missed a notice, it’s also possible that the Red Cross are a bunch of cold mothers, and could possibly extend Mr. Shatner the benefit of the doubt. Except….
– Mr. Shatners next speaking engagement is for Aruba Networks, and that event opens in Vegas…tomorrow. Shatner is listed in several convention posts as a keynote speaker, so it was easy to confirm.

It really does beg the question for Bill, if you are heading west anyway, why not beg off of the RC event a bit early to pay your respects? The sad answer seems to be that he’s again demonstrating that he’s not one to let sentiment get in the way of a paying gig. When you consider that Nimoy made it a point to be with Bill when Shatners wife died, Bill is coming off as particularly cold….

The public is not being kind, most of the comments I’ve seen are shredding him – it could be quite a PR mess for his agent to clean up.

962. LizardGirl - February 28, 2015

He hasn’t learned a damn thing. All these years he’s wasted. Even if he finds a way to attend Leonard’s funeral service now it’ll just look like a token act, to save face. The man doesn’t need any money, he kids are grown…what is it that drives him?

Well, there will be those that will be in attendance physically and in spirit and that is more than sufficient.

963. CmdrR - February 28, 2015

Phil, you’re asking us to get into Shat’s Big Giant Head… and that’s scary.
It’s a choice.
I would rather concentrate my emotions in a positive way on Leonard and his family right now.

964. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 28, 2015

I also would prefer to focus on Leonard Nimoy. To focus on anything else would be. Illogical..

965. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - February 28, 2015

Time for a little debate.
Spock VS Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kTlGmmU4ao

966. Disinvited - February 28, 2015

#960. Phil – February 28, 2015 st the immediate family

That’s very odd because the media reporting I saw said Nimoy’s son announced the funeral service would be private and just the immediate family. So just what is it that Shatner was expected to attend?

967. Disinvited - February 28, 2015

According to this report:

http://hollywoodlife.com/2015/02/28/william-shatner-crying-leonard-nimoy-death-pics/

The conflicting event was The Red Cross Ball and Shatner was already in FL to prepare for the event when he heard of his friend’s death and was pretty choked up about it.

and the event was this night in Palm Beach

http://www.tcpalm.com/niche/jupiter-courier-newsweekly/international-red-cross-ball_14087093

968. Cygnus-X1 - February 28, 2015

Anyone who knows anything about Bill Shatner knows how close he and Leonard were. Presuming to dictate how he should react to his close friend’s death is silly. There are obviously a lot of people counting on him for the charity event, which I’m sure was scheduled before the recent tragedy.

But, regardless of why he’s missing the funeral, Nimoy was one of Shatner’s best friends. Shatner can react to that loss in whatever manner suits him. IF there’s any issue, it’d be between Nimoy’s family and Shatner. Though, I doubt there’s any issue there.

969. Cygnus-X1 - February 28, 2015

facebook post

From Paul Camuso [mutual friend of David Gerrold and Bill Shatner]:

I’m usually not one to comment but I will. For those that do not know me, I work with Bill Shatner on a weekly if not daily basis. Bill is feeling horrible that he is not able to attend Leonard’s funeral tomorrow. I spoke with Bill this morning on the phone – did anyone else? I would bet they did not. Bill is honoring a pledge he made to a charity to appear tonight, they sold tickets based on the fact Bill was going to be there. This is their big fundraising event of the year where they bring in the bulk of their money to do good to the community they serve. To abandon them with less than 24 hours notice would be unthinkable. It would put the charity in a very bad position. There were no flights back so he’s stuck. He is not happy about the situation but he is a professional who keeps his promise to a charity. David, I thank you for speaking out. I’m absolutely going to share your message with Bill, next week. Pax.

970. Harry Ballz - February 28, 2015

@969 “There were no flights back so he’s stuck”

BULLSHIT! Shatner is rich and could hire a private jet. What a crock.

There are obligations and then there are the important things in life.

Shatner is one SHALLOW individual. What an asshole.

971. CmdrR - March 1, 2015

Emp 965 — Thanks. I hadn’t seen that one. Great fun.

972. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - March 1, 2015

Hey CmdrR. I listned to the entire Audio of part one. It was so awesome. Hearing Spock and Q talking like they do. Spock even got Q to mention an Astroid headed to Earth while Keeping Spock from Breaking the Prime Directive. Lol. So much fun.

973. Ahmed - March 1, 2015

2967. Disinvited, 969. Cygnus-X1,

Thanks for sharing that.

It is disgraceful that some people are trying to make an issue out of this without fully understanding the situation first.

974. B Kramer - March 1, 2015

William Shatner’s Twitter Storm Of A Leonard Nimoy Funeral Tribute

http://deadline.com/2015/03/william-shatner-leonard-nimoy-funeral-twitter-1201383975/

William Shatner’s daughters will attend Leonard Nimoy’s funeral today in his place

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/william-shatners-daughters-attend-leonard-5254076

LLAP

975. Ahmed - March 1, 2015

William Shatner Flies to L.A. in Time for Leonard Nimoy’s Funeral

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/leonard-nimoys-funeral-william-shatner-778477

976. CmdrR - March 1, 2015

Yea, Bill!

http://uproxx.com/gammasquad/2015/03/william-shatner-in-los-angeles-for-leonard-nimoy-funeral/

Boo, Church of Mean-Spirited Loonies!

http://www.inquisitr.com/1881975/westboro-baptist-church-announces-intent-to-picket-leonard-nimoys-funeral/

977. Cygnus-X1 - March 1, 2015

976. CmdrR – March 1, 2015

Boo, Church of Mean-Spirited Loonies!

Fire phasers.

978. LizardGirl - March 1, 2015

For what…conceivable reason would a group picket Leonard Nimoy’s funeral? For one man, he’s done a lot of good. That makes no sense. “Hey, there’s a funeral service for a decent man whose done a lot of great things for his fellow man…let’s go and insult the memory of him and those who care about him!”. If they do that, then they should be arrested.

979. Disinvited - March 1, 2015

#973. Ahmed – March 1, 2015

Yeah, I don’t get all the meanness. When a person has someone close to them die that they regard as a brother, it can be impossible to function mentally to steer a course through juggling schedules etc.

My mother, as old as Bill, had 2 separate deaths that she simply had to lean on me to get her where she needed to be and I could only accomplish the feat because of the mental discipline inspired by Nimoy’s Spock. And even at that, I know I couldn’t have pulled it off if these were not events I knew the odds weighed heavily in terms of likely to happen at the times they did. Taken by surprise I doubt I could have done it.

Instead of the entertainment media concentrating on the bitchin’ about an obviously puffyeyed from tearing 83yo man being overwhelmed by the death of a dear friend and being unable to think clearly enough in the grip of it to see how he could make the funeral across the continent the next day, you’d think, out of his many many fans, some captains of industry and if I’m not mistaken going so far as to include the president of the U.S. that someone somewhere in that group would have made a couple of solutions available to him to ease the situation, if not his grief?

Now, apparently, someone has. I wouldn’t be the least surprised if one the persons responsible for the successful juggle was his daughter who stood up to attend in his stead.

980. Disinvited - March 1, 2015

#978. LizardGirl – March 1, 2015

I hesitate to give you the answer as there is no reason in their reasoning but the top two given:

1. He’s not Christian.

2. He’s friends with “famed” gays (Quinto and Takei).

981. CmdrR - March 1, 2015

Yea, Simpsons!
(They added an in memoriam at the end of tonight’s ep for Leonard Nimoy.)

982. Phil - March 1, 2015

Haven’t heard much from Westboro since Fred Phelps died. Not to many dead soldiers to protest these days, so I guess they’ll have to make do with dead celebrities.

983. Phil - March 1, 2015

Don’t want to dwell much on Shatner at this point. One of the joys of the information age, it’s not hard to look up his minimum fess for an appearance (75K, if anyone cares), or his next gig (Vegas, this week). The guy is being eviscerated in the media – it’s hard to imagine an advisor didn’t point out that skipping your friends funeral for a speaking engagement was going to look bad, at a minimum, and just make you look like a @$$hole, at worst.

Well, if there is anything to be learned, some people will always serve as an example (LLAP), and others, as a warning (I’ll die alone).

Rest in peace, Leonard. You’ll be missed.

984. B Kramer - March 1, 2015

You’ve been a relentless Shatner hater from day one. Get some help.

985. Cygnus-X1 - March 1, 2015

I cannot think of anything more petty than taking advantage of this opportunity to bash Shatner.

986. CmdrR - March 1, 2015

My thoughts are with Leonard’s family, Bill, Leonard’s many other friends and coworkers… Everyone who truly cared about this generous soul.

Let us all commit to doing something positive in the days ahead in his memory.

987. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - March 1, 2015

I was listening to the Spock Vs Q and Spock told Q a Joke. Well. Here it is.

Spock. What did the ZEN Master say to the Hot Dog Vender.
Q Oh really. Ok. What did he say.
Spock. One with All.
Lol.

988. Phil - March 1, 2015

@985 – You’re probably the last person who should be lecturing people on being petty. Shatner seems to be doing a pretty decent job self destructing all by himself, and he’s certainly made it clear what his priorities are. While it would have been nice for him to be there, to provide some meaning to flowery Twitter tributes (we are giving him the benefit of the doubt that his press agent wasn’t writing those) that have been coming out of his account, for those who were there to comfort the family, I suspect that few of them were genuinely surprised he wasn’t there.

989. Katie G. - March 2, 2015

988. Phil —

Makes you wonder, doesn’t it.

In the beginning he was at the Conventions then his attendance grew more and more infrequent to the point where he seemed to have basically quit going… and whenever there were Star Trek things, he seemed to be the only one absent. I got the impression that he was trying to distance himself from the whole thing.

I don’t want to believe this of him but it doesn’t look good. Now, if he did have a previous commitment… what do you do? For all we know he spoke to Susan (Mrs. Nimoy) and she told him to NOT CANCEL his engagement. We don’t know. I agree it may look bad but to be honest, we really don’t know. He’s a busy guy, trying to avoid death. (He spoke about that in “Mind Meld” I think.) It is so sad to lose them one-by-one. They were, and actually still are, a HUGE part of my life.

All we’ve been watching here are our favourite Spock episodes and anything else he’s in. Hopefully it will help the grieving process and feel like he’s still with us.

990. Katie G. - March 2, 2015

I was VERY surprised at how hard Leonard’s death affected me. A friend posted it on my Facebook page because she knew I was a rabid Star Trek fan and that’s the first thing I saw when I logged on. Hadn’t heard anything. I suddenly felt nauseous and started to tremble. It took most of the day to settle. Then my husband came home (who listens to the radio all day while he makes deliveries/pick-ups in his truck) and just looked at me and said “Yeah”. I started up all over again. Even he got misty-eyed and he’s not really a Star Trek fan but, of all of the incarnations, he LOVED the character of Spock. We are mourning here. But I know we’re not alone. It helps.

ktg

991. Cygnus-X1 - March 2, 2015

Shatner does Trek conventions every year.

I happen to remember that last year he hosted and interviewed the TNG cast at a convention in Chicago. In 2013 he did other Trek conventions, though I don’t recall which.

Are people now taking to inventing falsehoods about which to bash Shatner?

I’m not sure which is worse: bashing him about really missing the funeral, or making up a story that he doesn’t do conventions any more and bashing him about that.

992. AJ - March 2, 2015

I landed in New York, and saw all the Shatner-bashing, and thought first: Don’t people realize that Kirk and Spock are fantasy characters?

Played by professional actors?

And, most importantly, fans who insert themselves into the two men’s personal relationship, especially at a time like this, seriously need something better to do. It has been clear for decades the two men were close friends, and it’s clear now that Shatner’s decision was informed by their relationship.

In contrast, one positive thing to come out of this is how much “Kirk and Spock” is really a thing in our culture. For all of the garbage JJ Abrams has thrown at us, he at least, ham-handedly for sure, tried to show this in his two films. This is also something that I hope Simon Pegg and his bunch will do properly (along with McCoy) in the 50th anniversary film.

993. AJ - March 2, 2015

Katie,

Nice to see you back!

994. CmdrR - March 2, 2015

I wonder how the next movie is coming along…

995. AJ - March 2, 2015

A nice tribute video to the man who was Mr. “You couldn’t pronounce it” Spock

http://screen.yahoo.com/videos-for-you/man-spock-171035019.html

996. Phil - March 2, 2015

Oh, I suspect it’s progressing nicely.
http://globalnews.ca/news/1847312/star-trek-3-to-shoot-in-vancouver-this-summer/

997. LizardGirl - March 2, 2015

@990 Katie
Yeah, I as well as quite a few people I talked to were quite affected by Mr. Nimoy’s death. One to the point of tears, which made my eyes water.

I went to a con this past Saturday and I decided to change my initial outfit. I instead wore my science blues and talked to quite a few people about Leonard. I then came back to work and kept my uniform on. That alone opened discussions about about him and STAR TREK in general. I work with a Fringee who also couldn’t stop talking about him. To her, Leonard was Willaim Bell.

He was and is a lot of things to a lot of people. He will be dearly missed. I hope he’s given a honorable tribute in the not too distant future.

998. Spockchick - March 2, 2015

I flew in last night from Copenhagen. The (English) Captain’s last words to the passengers were ‘Have a safe onward journey and live long, and prosper.’

999. Spockchick - March 2, 2015

#978. LizardGirl – March 1, 2015

Westboro, it appears, would find a reason to picket a group of ducklings crossing a road.

1000. Phil - March 2, 2015

A nice little tribute from CBS…

http://www.cbs.com/recommended-galleries/1003563/12-ways-leonard-nimoy-made-spock-more-human-than-the-rest-of-us/76088/1-when-he-lost-control-of-his-emotions/

1001. LizardGirl - March 2, 2015

@ Spockchick
Wow…I’ll look them up…

1002. Disinvited - March 2, 2015

# 998. Spockchick – March 2, 2015

” Westboro, it appears, would find a reason to picket a group of ducklings crossing a road.” — Spockchick

Well, I suppose I should make you aware of the other side of the spectrum of hate to be fair, but I warn people don’t go here unless you are mentally prepared to face that someone could despise and hate Nimoy so, as it is vile:

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/77445/leonard-nimoy-mocked-judaism-using-nude-women-on-star-trek/

1003. Spockchick - March 2, 2015

@1001 Disinvited

Oh dear me. And nothing in the post about feminism or how women’s bodies are viewed.
Nimoy said about this particular work, “What is underlying this, in my opinion, is chauvinism (and) the elitism of the male in the religion. This material I have produced elevates women in the hierarchy of Judaism. You have a woman in power, a woman who is a divinity, and that upsets a lot of people.

On a lighter note, I flew in from Copenhagen last night, and the (English) pilot’s last words to the passengers was ‘Have a good onward journey and live long, and prosper.’

1004. Phil - March 2, 2015

@1001 Asshattery, unfortunately, is no respecter of individuals, or beliefs. It’s small consolation that Nimoy will be remembered long past when these small minded distributers of vitriol have been consigned to the ash heap of history.

1005. AJ - March 2, 2015

Required viewing: The Nimoy/Quinto Audi commercial!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPkByAkAdZs

1006. CmdrR - March 2, 2015

Well, Spidey’s back… for a looooooong time.

http://uproxx.com/movies/2015/03/breaking-drew-goddard-will-write-and-direct-the-spider-man-reboot-starring-iron-man-and-the-avengers/

1007. Phil - March 2, 2015

@1003. Or at least until one or two of these franchised super CGI spectaculars crashes on takeoff….

1008. Phil - March 2, 2015

Great interview with Zach Quinto.
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/03/02/zachary-quinto-remembers-leonard-nimoy-he-was-more-father-figure-me-anyone-else

1009. Disinvited - March 2, 2015

# 1007. Phil – March 2, 2015

“Or at least until one or two of these franchised super CGI spectaculars crashes on takeoff….” — Phil

Or, in other words, don’t count your grosses until the tickets are stubbed.

And thanks for the Quinto piece, I needed that.

1010. CmdrR - March 3, 2015

Harry, you’ve been busy.

http://uproxx.com/webculture/2015/03/canada-spock-currency/

1011. CmdrR - March 3, 2015

And this…

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=bruno+mars+leonard+nimoy&FORM=HDRSC3#view=detail&mid=C6D5DC0BA99F3BF88A9DC6D5DC0BA99F3BF88A9D

1012. CmdrR - March 3, 2015

And this…

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=bruno+mars+leonard+nimoy&FORM=HDRSC3#view=detail&mid=C6D5DC0BA99F3BF88A9DC6D5DC0BA99F3BF88A9D

1013. AJ - March 3, 2015

Who can guess why this is funny?

http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2015/03/03/36-handy-phrases-help-get-tight-squeeze/

1014. Disinvited - March 3, 2015

#1013. AJ – March 3, 2015

You mean beyond the obvious?

“thepoke” “handy” phrases help get “tight” “squeeze”/

1015. Marja - March 3, 2015

1007 Phil, Sunday I saw, with the usual bombastic music, a preview for Marvel’s “Ant-man” (ANT-MAN???) with Paul Rudd (Paul RUDD?? From all those Judd Apatow movies??) …

I think Marvel’s about to over-saturate the market. With that, and the Aquaman movie in the works (AQUAMAN???).
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I laughed so hard reading, and admiring the art of, the Spocking Fives article. Thanks! to you who shared it. Hmmmm which US bill could I decorate in that fashion?

I call on my Canadian brethren and sistren to get busy and saturate the Canadian currency with Spocked Fives!!! Ohh, my what a happy and funny article at this time.

1016. Harry Ballz - March 3, 2015

@1010 CmdrR

No time to talk. Busy defacing five dollar bills. Oooooh, my hand is cramping up!

1017. Phil - March 3, 2015

Come on, Harry, I’d of figured your hand cramping up would be the least of your worries…..

I’d of thought some enterprising individual would have figured out a way to make a template – load up your printer with the appropriate cash, and you’re printing out Spockified fives, or US ones….

1018. Silvereyes - March 3, 2015

Harry, your hand is cramping up? I’m not sure that’s from too much of defacing the 5$ bills. It’s too much of something though…

1019. Phil - March 3, 2015

@1015. I believe it’s going to take a bit more then one or two of these movies underperforming – the studios all seem to think they should be billion dollar worldwide events now. If Ant-Man (or S vs B) only makes 100MM worldwide on a 200MM budget (actually, break even would be a problem, if John Carter is a good example) I suspect you’d see a bunch of these movies shelved, and quickly.

It is a shame, as I suspect that these mega-budget movies siphon off capital that could be used to make movies that are still profitable, and possibly higher quality. I understand that movie making is a business, and while I enjoy the action – adventure romps, they don’t compare to films like 12 Years a Slave, Lone Survivor, or Shawshank Redemption, all movies that struck a deeper chord…and examples of the types of movies that reflect that there are still stories to be told….

1020. Disinvited - March 3, 2015

# 1015. Marja – March 3, 2015

” I think Marvel’s about to over-saturate the market. With that, and the Aquaman movie in the works (AQUAMAN???).” — Marja

FWIW its DC/Warner’s hill to climb and Marvel/Disney’s to be toppled from. So Aquaman not being Marvel has the toughest row to hoe and it’s all uphill.

It will be interesting to see if they can pull off translating the quirky ANT-MAN comic character to the big screen. Since Ultron is to be THE AVENGERS next foe and Ant-man invented him that’s how Marvel expects to tie it all in.

1021. Red Dead Ryan - March 3, 2015

Speaking of hand….you’ve got to give it to this woman:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/sex-shows-streamed-from-windsor-libraries-probed-by-police-1.2980035

1022. Phil - March 3, 2015

You can never have enough probing by police. Maybe they’ll get to the bottom..ahem..of that copy of 50 Shades in the library that was found to have herpes…

1023. DataFindsLove - March 3, 2015

Saw a funny Trek parody about communicators being used like cell phones… thought you might like it, made by that Indian guy on The Guild! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxSfctXJDdw

1024. Harry Ballz - March 3, 2015

@1018 Silvereyes “It’s too much of something though…”

Silvereyes, you are, of course, referring to “whacker’s cramp”.

I know you get it…….the question is…………how often?

:>)

1025. Marja - March 4, 2015

Ohmigod, whacker’s cramp! Next thing you’ll see is a Big Pharma commercial

1026. Silvereyes - March 4, 2015

1025 Marja

For sure, and when there’s no disease to cure, they invent one just so they can push a wonder pill on us to cure it, with ridiculous side effects including everything from blindness to suicidal thoughts and death (and of course, the aforementioned explosive diarrhea).

Nobody had ADHD when I was a kid in the sixties, yet children were as hyperactive as today. Now it seems one child out of 4 has it and needs to be put on ritalin…

Anything for a buck, and the medical profession is in on it of course. They don’t want to cure cancer when each treatment costs 50,000$… They just want to keep patients alive long enough to put them through as many treatments as possible. Then stuff them full of morphine in an palliative center untl they die and they can make money with the next one.

Just eat well, fruits and vegetables, keep the sugar intake low, don’t overeat and keep away from processed foods people!

Sorry. But seeing people being treated like balls in a pinball machine, between the medical field and Big Pharma has it’s toll on my otherwise sunny disposition.

1027. CmdrR - March 4, 2015

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/nasa-spacecraft-nearing-its-second-stop-%E2%80%94-dwarf-planet-ceres/ar-BBi8ff8?ocid=ansnewsap11

http://www.wsj.com/articles/nasa-probe-closing-in-on-dwarf-planet-ceres-1425482166?mod=WSJ_LifeStyle_LatestHeadlines

OK, Kiddies, here I go again. I have always thought this big rock in the asteroid belt was pronounced like ‘series.’ The WSJ dude says ‘sears’ (apparently, Dawn can stock up on gardening supplies while there). An online pronuncier gadget says ‘seh-reez’.

Say you, say me… say it for always, naturally. How do you pronounce Ceres??

1028. B Kramer - March 4, 2015

Classic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nxcw7ln9AU

1029. Disinvited - March 4, 2015

# 1026. Silvereyes – March 4, 2015

” For sure, and when there’s no disease to cure, they invent one just so they can push a wonder pill on us to cure it…’– Silvereyes

Wait, I always knew Harry was big but Big Pharma? No way!

1030. Disinvited - March 4, 2015

#1027. CmdrR – March 4, 2015

Always pronounced it your way, but if the WSJ is right then it is imperative that we go there, because, everyone knows, “Ceres has everything.”

1031. Silvereyes - March 4, 2015

1027 CmdrR

I would pronounce Ceres like Perez, then again I’m a lowly French Canaderan… (I’m sure my English is still better than Harry’s though, who’s an even lowlyer Traunian…)

1032. Harry Ballz - March 4, 2015

Quebeckers are like spoiled children. They want to leave home, but have the parents still give them money.

1033. Red Dead Ryan - March 4, 2015

New “Avengers: Age Of Ultron” trailer:

http://www.movies.com/movie-news/avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer-final/18029

1034. Silvereyes - March 4, 2015

Harry, thank God that trend of wanting to leave home is at a low right now. People are finally getting into their heads that you don’t make a country out of cultural idealism. It’s the economy stupid… We have too many poets and folk singers here. Plus we’re surrounded by 300 million bloodthirsty anglos… French is irrelevant (sorry Aurore)

1035. Harry Ballz - March 4, 2015

Don’t want to leave home?

Bon!

:>)

1036. Silvereyes - March 4, 2015

Why leave home? … Americans, French and Scotts please close your eyes… Canada is the best country in the world!

1037. AJ - March 4, 2015

God…loads of poets and folk singers rhyming and singing in twangy Quebecois French? Is that how Celine Dion gets paid as well?

Quick! We need Gordon Lightfoot!

1038. CmdrR - March 4, 2015

“If you could read my mind, love…
What a tale! I tell you what…
About some Spock’d-out fivers…
Wrapped ’round Celine Dion’s butt…”

Hmmm. Maybe just stick with Joni Mitchell and Neil Young.

1039. Disinvited - March 4, 2015

Last night Jimmy Kimmel covered the Spocking but he claimed it was legal.

1040. Silvereyes - March 4, 2015

1038 it is legal, just discouraged

1041. Cygnus-X1 - March 4, 2015

Inspired by our Canuckian brethren in the house, I decided to revisit this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOnQROgk1IM

1042. Silvereyes - March 4, 2015

Thank you Cygnus. That is indeed a classic

1043. Phil - March 4, 2015

Comments on Mr. Nimoy’s service. Zachary Quinto has certainly shown himself to be a friend of the Nimoy family in trying times….

http://www.people.com/article/leonard-nimoy-funeral-zachary-quinto-speaker

1044. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - March 4, 2015

A letter from the Easter Bunny to Santa.

Dear Santa. This is my time of the year. It’s time for warmth and sun and bunnies.
Now get your raindeer tail out of my yard and get back home!!!!!. This is my time of the year!!!!. Signed. The Easter Bunny. ‘

Just thought I would share that.
In Dallas. We are having a Winter Storm.

1045. Phil - March 4, 2015

@1041. Yeah, Emperor Mike, we have a friend of the family who fled California for the …ahem…warmer and friendlier climes of Texas who is in the area. Supposed to hit the mid seventies here, and low eighties for the weekend. Rubbing it in with a grain of salt, though, we really do need some more rain.

1046. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - March 4, 2015

Phil. Believe it or not. We are also in a bad Drought. But not as bad as you guys are. We want the Rain. Just not the heavy Sleet and Snow. Lol.

1047. Spockchick - March 5, 2015

Westboro didn’t manage to picket Mr. Nimoy’s funeral. One has to wonder if there was divine intervention. In wonderful comedy style, they couldn’t find the venue!

http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/mar/03/leonard-nimoy-funeral-westboro-baptist-church

1048. Phil - March 5, 2015

@1047. No, I suspect they didn’t picket the service because they never really intended to to begin with. Issuing a announcement of a picket, that was sufficient to get them the little press exposure they wanted. While I’m in no way comparing Shatner to Westboro, his PR people are also masters at manipulating social media as well. On Friday, if you Goggled Leonard Nimoy, all you saw were tributes to him. On Saturday, the same search gave you three pages of links to William Shatner. No surprise he was tweeting about holding a memorial in South Beach. Now, Google the same search, and we are back to tributes to Nimoy and stories on his eulogy. I don’t begrudge Shatner not wanting to bail on a paying gig that probably put six figures in his pocket, he would have just been better served had he been upfront with it, and at least pretend to understood that sometimes desecration really is the better part of honor.

1049. Spockchick - March 5, 2015

@ 1048 Phil

I know Westboro were blowing smoke and never intended to attend. That’s what they do :-) but thinking they got lost is funnier.

1050. Phil - March 5, 2015

@1049. Yeah, the image of a couple of old AMC Gremlins pulling into a gas station in Bel Aire, asking for directions is a bit surreal – Leonard Nimoy’s funeral, you say? Is that Nimoy, the actor, or Nimoy, the photographer? Tell you what, get on I-5, head north about 45 miles, and when you hit Palmdale, take the second exit to the left…

Thanks…We’re on a mission from God (apologies to the Blues Brothers)

All units, Use of excessive force in the apprehension of Westboro Baptist has been approved. (more apologies, but right in LAPD’s wheelhouse)

1051. Silvereyes - March 5, 2015

Westboro: Stupid, retarded, manipulative and now liars. Wow, what irresistible marketing. Where do I join?

1052. Silvereyes - March 5, 2015

CmdrR, did you know the US is the largest market for electric cars and that, huh, the home of the Braves represents a third of that market?

Didn’t realize your brethren were so enlightened! :) Move over San Francisco, Boston and NYC…

1053. CmdrR - March 5, 2015

Silvereyes —

I see we’re in the top ten markets for EV’s.
I guess Atlantans find time to do something right when they’re not too busy panicking about four snowflakes, boosting VD rates, cutting school funding, remaining competitive in the obesity olympics, or sending out armed patrols in case anybody has an inkling to get gay married.

1054. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - March 5, 2015

I know someone who can destroy Westboro from inside. This one person can finally do some real good. Even Harry would have to agree with this. Send in Ericka Durance. The Westboro people will change their ways when she flashes them. Lol.

1055. Spockchick - March 5, 2015

@1050 Phil
SNL sketch! Sometime in the future. I’m sure Mr Nimoy would laugh :-)

@ 1054 EMoTE
Or Colin Firth, if anyone has seen ‘Kingsman’. It’s a bit ultra-violent!

1056. Marja - March 5, 2015

1050 Phil, LOL

1055 Spockchick … great idea b/c to add insult to the many injuries The Kingsman would inflict, Firth played a gay man in the acclaimed “A Single Man.” The HORROR! The HORROR!
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I notice that on the main board (Nimoy thread) we are being treated to yet another C.V. by IDIC … the recitation of her credits as a science writer, mother &c. PLEASE tell me I’m not such a bore when I mention my USCG service. …

Love how she decided I was talking from my “right brain” when speaking of MY personal experiences and what Nimoy meant to me. I seem to forget she is the Sole Arbiter of Sense and Meaningful Discussion! WHAT is wrong with me.

1057. Spockchick - March 5, 2015

@ 1056 Marja!

Marja! *hugs* it is a very sad week :-( I don’t go over the wall, haven’t for about 2 years. It is better here :-) I would need an inexhaustible supply of tin hats (not tinfoil hats) and virtual flak jackets. I thought right-brain was a compliment? Isn’t that Spockish to be a right-brain? P x

1058. Disinvited - March 5, 2015

# 1057. Spockchick – March 5, 2015

” Isn’t that Spockish to be a right-brain? P x” — Spockchick

Below the neck the human body does an interesting cross circuit switch. The right side of the body is controlled by the left side of the brain and vice versa. Speculation is that there is some protection to the most vital part of the brain in doing this but I am unaware of any research that confirms this is the case.

Be that as it may, the left half of the bifurcated human brain is were logic, reason, and math ability reside. These features are most associated with being Spock-like as the character aspires to all things Vulcan.

This is not to say that the right half can’t learn some of these functions but it takes a lot of work.

1059. Disinvited - March 5, 2015

# 1057. Spockchick – March 5, 2015

” Isn’t that Spockish to be a right-brain? P x” — Spockchick

Below the neck the human body does an interesting cross circuit switch. The right side of the body is controlled by the left side of the brain and vice versa. Speculation is that there is some protection to the most vital part of the brain in doing this but I am unaware of any research that confirms this is the case.

Be that as it may, the left half of the bifurcated human brain is were logic, reason, and math ability reside. These features are most @ssociated with being Spock-like as the character aspires to all things Vulcan.

This is not to say that the right half can’t learn some of these functions but it takes a lot of work.

1060. Disinvited - March 5, 2015

# 1057. Spockchick – March 5, 2015

” Isn’t that Spockish to be a right-brain? P x” — Spockchick

Below the neck the human body does an interesting cross circuit switch. The right side of the body is controlled by the left side of the brain and vice versa. Speculation is that there is some protection to the most vital part of the brain in doing this but I am unaware of any research that confirms this is the case.

Be that as it may, the left half of the bifurcated human brain is were logic, reason, and math ability reside. These features are most a$$ociated with being Spock-like as the character aspires to all things Vulcan.

This is not to say that the right half can’t learn some of these functions but it takes a lot of work.

1061. Marja - March 5, 2015

Naw, Spock is considered Left Brain –logical, mathematically and scientifically inclined because of their objectivity. About the only time I’m using my left brain is when I’m editing, critiquing books, or analyzing news stories (and usually from a Lefty POV) :-P

I love your saying “over the wall” — maybe I should put on a tinfoil hat when I wade in!

Let’s just say that IDICloves is to me what Erica Durance is to Emperor Mike … AND I should avoid any comms with her the way Emp. Mike avoids the “acting” of La Durance.

1062. Harry Ballz - March 5, 2015

@1054 Emperor Mike

“Send in Ericka Durance. The Westboro people will change their ways”

Yes, she would flash them, turning them instantly gay. Suh-weet!

1063. Silvereyes - March 5, 2015

I actually never really understood why Durance was singled out as a bad actress, since there are so many… Then a few weeks ago I came upon a masterpiece of a movie “Beyond Sherwood Forest”… I couldn’t believe how bad and inept she was. The movie was laughably pathetic, but she was the cherry on top. So, I’ve joined you Harry…

One wonders why or how she gets acting gigs. I mean, they can pick anybody off the street and they would do a better job.

1064. Harry Ballz - March 5, 2015

Ah, thanks for corroborating my disgust, Silvereyes!

1065. Harry Ballz - March 5, 2015

“they would do a better job”

I can see it now….Erica talking to a friend before a big audition…..

“I hope I don’t blow it. I really need this job!”

“C’mon, Erica, just keep telling yourself, ‘don’t blow job!'”

Erica thinks to herself, “hmmm, if I just drop the word ‘don’t’ from that affirmation, I might have a chance”

1066. CmdrR - March 5, 2015

Darn thing doesn’t handle like the Falcon…

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Aircraft-Incident-Reported-in-Santa-Monica-295247581.html

It sounds bad, but not life-threatening. I hope he’s OK.

1067. Red Dead Ryan - March 5, 2015

Harrison Ford reportedly was fully awake, alert, and breathing on the way to the hospital.

1068. Phil - March 5, 2015

@1056. Amy IDIC and TUP are the same person? You’ve never seen them in a digital room together…

@1060. After a few beers, when you rearrange the letters in her name, it spells William Shatner. After considering Shatners ‘look at me’ Twitter barrage this week, I’ll not be questioning Harrys wisdom any time soon.

1069. Disinvited - March 5, 2015

# 1063. CmdrR – March 5, 2015

” Darn thing doesn’t handle like the Falcon…” — CmdrR

I thought some golfers thought they heard him hollering into his headset on the way down, “I HATE SNAKES, SULLY! I HATE ‘EM!” j/k

1070. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - March 5, 2015

Just found out. Have Bennett has passed away.

1071. Disinvited - March 5, 2015

# 1064. Red Dead Ryan – March 5, 2015

” Harrison Ford reportedly was fully awake, alert, and breathing on the way to the hospital.” — Red Dead Ryan

Take it from me, who has spent more time on roofs than I’d care to admit as the son of a son of a carpenter/roofer, it would take a fall higher than trimming a few trees to take out an old roofer like Ford. If given an opportunity to espouse on the safety of flying at his rescuer’s recovery would probably joke he faced a greater threat to his life from that da/\/\n malfunctioning MF set door than the Ryan’s engine failure.

But wacthing the coverage live as I type, I have to admit given his situation that was some fine flying on Ford’s part. He must be far more experienced than I ever imagined.

1072. AJ - March 5, 2015

RIP Harve Bennett

http://deadline.com/2015/03/harve-bennett-dies-star-trek-movie-producer-1201387026/

1073. Phil - March 5, 2015

My wife’s family has been going to Laughlin since they were kids – the shortcut, if you will, goes through the town of Amboy (yep, Route 66), which is mostly deserted these days. On one side of the road is the motel, café, and gas station, and on the other side the post office, a landing strip, and a few homes scattered in the area. Back in the day, when there were a few people still living out there and the café was open, Harrison Ford was known to fly in, grab a burger, then head back out. The locals left him alone, and the occasional traveler would meet a celebrity in the desert.

Albert Okura bought the town a few years back, and is slowly developing the property. Perhaps the café will open again someday.

http://www.rwongphoto.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/roys-motel-amboy.jpg

1074. Marja - March 5, 2015

I think what really bugs me is, she is so proprietary of Trek … as if no one who disagrees with her — or even expresses a different POV — has any sort of valid opinion. Feh.

1075. Cygnus-X1 - March 5, 2015

1047. Spockchick – March 5, 2015

Westboro didn’t manage to picket Mr. Nimoy’s funeral. One has to wonder if there was divine intervention. In wonderful comedy style, they couldn’t find the venue!

Praise HIM!!!

I’ll tell you what I would like to see the WBC find—the Church of Scientology on 46th St. Every time I pass by that building I get like this creepy feeling. And I’d love to see the WBC go head-to-head with the Scientologists. Who would win? How awesome would it be if the Scientologists managed to convince even one of the WBC’ers to go inside for a “reading” while the rest remained picketing out front.

Pretty damned awesome.

1076. CmdrR - March 5, 2015

God speed, Harve Bennett. Your mission was a success.

1077. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - March 5, 2015

Rip Harve Bennett. You will never be forgotten.

1078. Emperor Mike of the Terran Empire - March 5, 2015

Big Bang Theory paid tribute to Leonard Nimoy.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/05/big-bang-theory-leonard-nimoy_n_6812964.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

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