StarTrek.com have put up a preview for "Where No Man Has Gone Before" Remastered. This shows off the incredible new galactic barrier CGI.
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Woooohoooo! Another awesome preview ( I guess checking back here hourly is worth it after all :-) Very good episode with looks like some cool new shots, can’t wait!
Holy crap, the barrier effects look absolutely amazing. This should be a treat!
GOD……Now after seeing that how in the world could they not include Gary Mitchell in the remake of the new film? That episode had such tremendous impact that it easily could have been made into its own series. In some respects the characters and everything involved in this episode was truly much better then we all came to know – its seemed so crisp and vibrant!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! That’s pretty!! It took me years to finally see this episode, even then I only saw if first about a year ago, and as a foremost The Next Generation fan — this is still one of my favorite episodes of the franchise, of all time. I will definitely look forward to this, as I have been since I first saw it listed on the schedule.
This is an episode I have definitely been looking forward to, I can’t wait!
Hmmm cool now will they fix that grave stone?;) Fun stuff. Love the early retro ST stuff!!! I hope this new movie takes some of the mood of the early episodes with the use of color, light and especially music. They were fun, eerie, creepy and very cool! The first 10 episodes especially really had a certain feel to them. It is so interesting to see after just 2 seaons how different the last season shows felt and looked compared to the first seaons shows. Of all the TREKS shows I always felt this was opposite. It started out strong and got weaker whereas the other series always started out weaker and got stronger in the end. Funny how that all worked out.
Fix the Headstone!
checking back hourly?
wow. do you set your alarm or something…doesnt your wife or gf get upset when you have to get out of bed to see if Shatner said something new or there is a new preview for TOSR up?
we have had 4 updates today…should we go for 5?
what do you boys think of the ‘late night comedy’ vids…maybe I should do more of those, but there is only so much stuff out there.
regarding the headstone. it was a big debate but in the end it was not changed, however that was due to other things (like the galactic barrier) taking up all the time and reserouces.
so it is James R. Kirk, unless they get inspired for the DVD releases…but dont count on it
Anthony, I think you should definitely do more of the humor stuff. When I saw the “hair” piece (pun intended) it reminded me of those hilarious interstitials for Star Trek on Spike TV… too bad there were only a handful of those made.
well you do realise that i didnt ‘do’ the vid, just found it on youtube.
I did it at the time becasue i felt it was a ‘lighten up’ moment for the talk around here…that and all the talk about Shats rug.
but I will think about it….I dont want to be spamming my own site
Considering the first thing that sprung to every Trekker’s mind about enhancing this episode was the headstone, it’s a colossal letdown that it won’t be changed.
Holy Freak’n Crap!
Headstone or not, I am really looking forward to this one.
Damn. Wish I could agree with the sentiments above, but considering how much I was looking forward to seeing what would be done with this show I can’t say I’m impressed with what I’ve seen here at all. After some really excellent recent work CBS Digital’s effects for this seminal episode strike me as garish and cartoony–particularly disappointing is the new version of the galactic barrier, which instead of a lethal zone of hellish radiation now looks as though the Enterprise had gotten itself stranded inside a ball of cotton candy. The CG model fails to convey the sense of mass or scale acheived in “The Corbomite Maneuver” or even last week’s “Friday’s Child,” and even Delta-Vega’s clouds look fake and painted-on. Maybe in the end this will turn out okay–I hope so, because after 42 years “Where No Man Has Gone Before” sure deserves a better facelift than this appears to be so far.
Thanks Michael… I thought I was gonna be the fly in the ointment here…
I think the effects seen in this preview look awful… over done… and way too CG.
one thing I wonder is if some of the shots of the enterprise are sped up for the preview.
oh and hi Daren! you are never a fly in our ointment
Well, we can rationalise that maybe Mitchell didn’t know Kirk’s middle name… Shame it wasn’t done though.
By the way, do you know if the CBS guys are consulting various nitpicker’s guides to the OT – ideal source of things needing digital clean-up in terms of continuity, etc.
I just don’t get it–they were on a friggin’ roll, and they go and blow it on this, of all episodes? As an effects professional yourself, Darren, do you have any notion as to how the hell that could happen?!
Man, I hate to be a naysayer, but my enthusiasm for this project just took a nosedive.
While I would agree that the CGI barrier sequences seen in the preview does look a tad dodgey, I am going to wait till we see the actual broadcast. The ship and Delta Vega does look a bit cartoon-ish. What I liked was how they handled the barrier. In a way, it feels a little contemporary, somewhat like the Badlands in Voyager’s Pilot.
Regarding the discussion about hair. Take a look at the DVD of What are Little Girls Made Of. Look closely when Kirk is on the table right before he says “Mind your own business Mr. Spock…”
I’m glad I’m not the only one thinking the effects for this preview are a complete let down. Come on CBS, what is going on here? This is a step way back to the beginning. This is the pilot episode, it deserves far better treatment than this.
It is looking a little cartoony. I hope it looks better on TV, but I’m feeling a little nervous about this one.
Hmmm. I think the new galactic barrier looks great . The Enterprise looks a little like the E in Balance of Terror, but still acceptable. I appluad CBS digital for really going all out here, this episode certainly deserves a little extra effort and I will wait until I see it on the tube before I pass full judgment.
I’m happy to see CBS-D “let her fly” with this episode. “Where No Man Has Gone Before” is more epic in scale than the average Trek episode. I think being ambitious with the effects is a good thing. And yes, I do think they sped up the FX shots for the preview. At normal speed, they will look much better.
#19 and #16….
Daren, I know this IS your business, but I completely disagree with your view. The preview is slightly sped up, I agree…. but this is sooooo nice.
#15…. Hellish radiation?…. describe that please. You want the “bolts” seen in the V’ger cloud? This look is structured a lot like what you see from Hubble telescope shots. Highly energized particles can look like this.
… and the old girl Flys! I love the second fly-over into the barrier shot. She actually looks like a starship moving through this zone. A very non-trad shot for this series and I like it. Very graceful.
They couldn’t afford to do the headstone? That’s insane! They can fix Sulu’s chronometer but something like painting out an R and putting on a T is too costly. How did we go from Star Trek getting over a million dollars to do one episode to just a few years later CBS sayin’ – “here’s twenty bucks. Make it work”?
Meh, just paint out the whole letter and don’t put any T in there. That ought to be cheaper.
It’s such a solid, human Trek adventure that J.J. Abrams should literally just remake the same story for the big screen. With Affleck as Gary Mitchell.
I’m going to sign up on the disappointed list here. Airbrushy, CG looking effects. Especially since the sets and costumes are even more spartan than future episodes to so totally go over the top here is kind of disrespectful.
I’m disappointed the head stone was not fixed. I hope it is fixed in a future “do-over”. I’m really looking forward to this show. WNMHGB and The Cage set the bar pretty high and very few Trek episodes exceeded them.
And there you have it…exactly why the new movie makers oughta do whatever they god-damned please. No matter what someone does to try to pay tribute, some people are gonna bitch and say how awful it is. Just look at some of the comments above. Heck, I think it looks great! Anyone who think it looks like cotton candy oughta try to eat it more often, because they are way off. This is much more believable than that worthless barrier in the original that looks like half painted pink sunset. Oh, and “Gary, forgive them” for not changing it to a T on the headstone. I’m sure that Trek purists are so upset because they WANT you to change everything-HUH? Come on people…you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. Plus, I think it is great that they are using the Enterprise with the spiked nacelles and bigger “dish” on it. Very appropriate. Hang in there CBS Digital. With people, you just can’t win.
PS-This IS my favorite Trek episode and if I really thought they’d messed it up, I’d be the first one bitching. They DID mess up Balance of Terror (my 2nd favorite episode). Hopefully that will be fixed for the dvd. Can’t wait to hear the bitchers about my third favorite episode, The Doomsday Machine. Thank God most were ok with “The Corbomite Manuever”, my 4th favorite episode.
Jim J, making a new movie and doing anything you want with it is fine. Redoing part of a 40 year old program with effects that look identical to the work done in a modern show is another thing.
And I say modern with a grain of salt. The barrier looks the same as the effects used in Voyager’s badlands 15 years ago. I’m surprised that if their going to do something inappropriate it can’t at least look good.
I wish people could understand that the criticism of what we’re seeing in the preview, is being compared to the previously ‘outstanding work’ of CBS Digital. It’s disappointing. The lighting looks like it has taken several steps back. Look at Space Seed and the Menagerie for great work. It’s not just a matter of the shots being sped up for the ad…the results are below the standard they finally managed to set for themselves over the last few weeks. I’m saddened. I hope that these were unfinished shots that got shoved into the preview for some reason.
Damn you CBS…give these guys time and a budget.
That’s the “old” Enterprise – it has red nacelle caps + pointy thingys on them.
Hard to tell from the quick preview shots, but the energy barrier looked pretty good to me. Roiling, turbulent, dangerous energy.
Please re-do Balance of Terror with this dynamic kind of f/x. Pleeeease!
Wow, you better rewatch Voyager if you think that looks like the badlands. I hate Voyager and I even remember that they loom different than this. Frankly, I don’t see the same thing you are looking at, apparently. I just think people are getting way too worked up, probably myself included. Can we just, for once, stop the whining and bitching and moaning? It’s no wonder Paramount execs kinda think we are a bit “whacky!” By our behavior on these boards, we are!!!! (Sorry, but this just makes me cranky-the old effects…God love ’em…are crap compared to this stuff). IMO
Loom? I must be tired, make that “look”
Fix the headstone…what if I say please? Well, darn. That was one of the things I was particuarly watching for, Gary not knowing kirks middle name seems odd since they were apparently friends since the academy. So while I am let down a bit please don’t take it the wrong way. I think they are doing a very good job I just would have like to seen this corrected.
Still the barrier looks cool! :)
Forgot to add the question. Other than the space shots what else was needing an update? Other than the old exteriors I can’t think of anything other than the headstone. Other than the matte being reused later it seemed fine for the ep (from what I can remember). Just curious.
On the other hand I just CAN”T BELIEVE they’re not fixing the ^%$^%#$!!! tombstone. I am SOOOO disappointed.
I still like the energy barrier, though.
To be honest, I’m a little underwhelmed by the Barrier…….mainly because what we’re shown looks more like a cloud or nebula than a barrier. I first saw this ep as a very young child in the early 70’s, and the Enterprise approaching the Barrier (the edge of everything), is a very powerful image for me. Hell the whole Barrier scene is. I expected something a little more difficult to pass through……not just a cloud. So I’m underwhelmed with the ship approaching the Barrier as it appears in the clip.
Also, some of the angles on the ship are….interesting. Tho the lighting on on the ship as it approaches the Barrier seems to be a throwback to the old model.
I’ve been awed by the work the team has done recently, so I’ll reserve judgement until I see the ep on the screen. It doesn’t look bad, just not what I expected from them.
I think that it looks good, but as usual, you have the regulars out with knives to based on the preview and not the actual episode.
And where are the canonistas? No begging to leave Kirk’s real middle initial in there? I mean… it’s as clear as day on screen… James R. Kirk.
C’mon… we can’t mess with canon, can we? ;)
I remember a thread on the trekbbs debating the T. or R. I couldn’t find it now but someone did a photoshop of it which would have been perfect. There was a version also that just had “James Kirk” which could have let people choose which they wan’t to go with.
Re: “T” v. “R”
I fall in the not-caring too much camp on that issue. I’d rather CBS-D focus on the bigger elements. WNMHGB is an FX-heavy show and it probably pushed the team to the max throughout. A measily headstone is a throwaway when compared to what they had to accomplish. Remember what our fearless leader stated on SNL back in ’86. I don’t think I even need to repeat it, y’all know what he said!
As for early gripes about the barrier, etc. All I can say is sit tight and wait to see what they look like at normal speed. I have a feeling there will be joyous reveling after it airs.
I liked the barrier and I liked the sped up zooming along shots of the E. I’m fed up with the stately galleon style that has come to dominate. Let her zoom, especially when she was young.
^^ “stately galleon style that has come to dominate”? Sorry, but that’s the style the original was filmed in for like…..always. Large ships that zoom like X-Wings are a trademark of the newer shows who were desperate to ditch one of Treks filming signatures to be more like other franchises. The sad part is, it never worked. They never came up with a newer, unique to Trek , style. Just a style that screamed “We’re trying to look “hip and cool” by making Trek ships move like other popular franchises!!”
The stately galleon look, as far as I know, was done first on Trek, and it, better than anything else, gives these ships a sense of size and mass. I mean….they are large ships! They should do everything in their power to convey that to the audience.
I want more shots looking down on the ship. I’m bored of the whole looking up at the ship business. Let’s see more angles the way we did in the TOS movies!
re: ” 16. darendoc – January 11, 2007
Thanks Michael… I thought I was gonna be the fly in the ointment here…
I think the effects seen in this preview look awful… over done… and way too CG.
One would think as a person in the same line of business as CBS digital, you could at least wait until seeing the whole episode before dishing out your dirt.
Those of you with iTunes capability should check out that preview over there. They are available at a much larger size. When you look at the barrier shots at closer to normal speed and full size it is seriously breathtaking. When this airs there wil be a lot of backtracking on people’s comments.
Fantastic job! I can’t believe I have to sit through “Wink of an Eye” before seeing this one!!
I’m excited by what I’ve seen. The barrier sequence was always an exciting part and I’m betting this only amps up the drama and excitement.
It looks awesome. Can’t wait for it. I wonder if they’ll re-use the barrier breach they made here in “By Any Other Name” and “Is There Is Truth No Beauty” as the original shows did, or will they re-do them with different shots?