Trek fans in Germany, Trek’s largest non-English speaking market, finally got to see the new Star Trek teaser on the big screen when it appeared with this weekend’s German premiere of Cloverfield. Unlike other international trailers, the German teaser is essentially identical to the English one with the NASA audio clips by Kennedy, Armstrong and others not dubbed into German. However, the “Space, the Final Frontier” (voiced by Nimoy in the English version) has been dubbed into German by what sounds like a familiar voice.
The voice now says “Der Weltraum, unendliche Weiten”, the regular German opening phrase from Star Trek The Original Series. The original German Spock voice, Herbert Weicker, died more than 10 years ago, and so a new voice actor had to be found. It isn’t 100% certain, but it sounded like the Nimoy dub was done by Norbert Gescher. Gescher voiced Spock for several scenes which had to be redubbed (or dubbed for the first time) for the DVD release of Star Trek The Original Series in Germany, a few years ago.
Unlike other foreign trailers, the text on the teaser was also mostly left in English. So “From Director JJ Abrams,” “The Future Begins,” and “Under Construction” all remained the same. However, at the end teaser, instead of “Boxing Day 2008”, the teaser says “Bald im Kino” (“In cinemas soon”)
Paramount has a German Teaser Site, but it still shows the UK version.
The German site Synchronkartei.de has more on: Herbert Weicker and Norbert Gescher
You can hear Weiker’s work in this clip
UPDATE: and Gescher’s Spock here (thanks s4ndwichMakeR)
Related:
Paramount launch international teaser sites
Thanks to my friend ‘Kloko’ who helped with this report
first
first? Im sure several german fans will be happy now!
not so slow!!
those germans – they love to dub it!
If fact there is somthing bizzare and cool about watching a star trek film dubbed in german with english subtitles!
there got to be some better international star trek sites for the movie.
Who would type http://www.paramount.com/startrek/intl/de/ ?
Do I get it right – “Space – endless voids”? That does sound almost anti-trek. :)
http://www.paramount.com/startrek/theoneforthegermans
Spock would look good in liederhosen (did I spell that right?)…
5. Paul – February 2, 2008
Do I get it right – “Space – endless voids”? That does sound almost anti-trek. :)
No, Weite would be better translated as wideness, width or expanse. So it sounds very pro-Trek! ;)
Good to know that the teaser will finally be shown with Cloverfield. I am going to watch it tomorrow! And that is a great extra bonus!
@ Anthony: Thanks for sharing those news. You may be one of the first to take the German trekdom seriously. And I just wanted to thank you for that. Keep up the good work!
Ich bin ein Trekker.
Cool.
German dubbing as well as the German voices have always been horrible. I grew up watching TOS in German and you really get a mere distortion of the original. Watching my first un-dubbed episode was an epiphany.
Lugosi,
THis site gets a lot of traffic from Germany. Germans love Trek. I have a few folks in Germany that send in tips and have helped out and we will cover events in Germany over the next year for sure. Same with the UK (trek’s largest non-N. American market).
This site is all about trek, wherever you may trek
Exactly the same with me. I never could stand the German dubbing of TOS, watching a complete episode was painful. When I finally got the episodes on DVD, I really understood what people saw in the series, just as you said, epiphany.
Welcome to TrekMovie.com, Jorg! Hope you survive the experience. :-D
Oh, and a great first article! Very well done. :)
Hopefully they’ll put the German teaser up sometime this weekend, or at least by the start of next week.
thats a very interesting statement that germany is the 2nd biggest trek market outside N america. i didnt realise that. i thought Great Britain would be the 2nd largest fan base. is there a list then of the biggest trek fans around the world? would be interesting to see that. i bet paramount have done there homework on that. demographics and geography of where trek is most profitable.
greg
UK
Cool :)
But i as a german, prefer the original english versions of star trek. However, ist still good to see, that the siteadmins thought the german trailer is actually worth a news^^
Greg,
UK is the largest outside the US, Germany is #2…i will change the text a bit to make that clearer. Germany is the largest non-english speaking market for sure
Möglicherweise sehe ich Cloverfield jetzt!
Will the film be in natural, dubbing given?
–Manrum
Wo kann man denn den deutschen Trailer jetzt ansehen?
ist das zufällig der sprecher der spock in “The Cage” gesprochen hat?
14 – surely ‘second outside North America’ means there’s one above it which isn’t North America, i.e us in the UK.. If not, well Germany does have a higher population than the UK, ja?
Don’t you think it’s irritating to dub the original voices? :).
I never gould watch German TV. Thank god our tv networks don’t do that.
To have someone else say Engage? :-/
@ Jeffrey: It’s spelled Lederhose :-) But I’dont know anybody who wears this crap. Except on the Oktoberfest in Munich…
I am from Germany (sorry for my English,haven’t written and spoker for years) and surprised, that you filled a whole article with news about the German Teaser. I don’t know, if somebody else is interested in, but I think it is a very nice gesture.So thank you.
I’m clicking this site at least ones a day and I’m very excited about the new movie. And let me say that there are many Trekkies here in Germany who can’t wait to see the movie or at least the new enterprise in total ;-)
I just checked and Germany was actually the number 2 market for Star Trek Nemesis…ahead of the UK. No data on previous films. In terms of Traffic for this site Germany comes in fourth behind US/UK/Canada
as I said…Trek is big in Germany
Isn’t that the german voice of Steve Martin? Hmm…
#8 – oh, thanks. :) That makes much more sense, now: “Space – the endless expanse.” Sounds somewhat more grand than “the final frontier”, even.
#11, #22 – Anthony, that’s intriguing. Would it be possible to publish some country-based stats, please? Something like, top 15 countries ordered by number of visitors. It would be rather interesting I think.
#22 And what about France, Anthony ? :d Could you make a list with the top 10 or 20 countries visiting this site ?
I am too slow… forget my message.
I always loved the music played during that “search for the overloading phaser” scene. :D
I’m not German but I used to watch a lot of Trek on German satelite channels (Sat 1), picked up more then a few German words up from that ;)
#7. Jeffrey S. Nelson –
“Spock would look good in liederhosen (did I spell that right?)…”
lederhosen is correct.
Now let me get this straight…You want to see Spock in Leather Shorts?
Nimoy, or Quinto?
Either way, I’m creeped out.
Being German and having a NCC-1701-E model on my computer right next to me, I can tell Trek is quite big in German. I prefer the original voices – not because they’re bad or anything, but there are just some things you can’t translate. However, there are still a lot of people in Germany (my parents for instance), who just don’t understand English or simply prefer German. The quality of German dubs is usually quite good so there really is no need to watch the originals for someone who is not comfortable with English. Lucky for me, most cinemas nowadays show movies also in English albeit to slightly inconvenient times.
The film is incredible and when the teaser trailer started the biggest part of the audience didn’t know what it was…until the Enterprise appeared on screen. I saw the movie this evening in my hometown in Lübeck, Germany. And it was really incredible…
To #7 it is spelled Lederhose. ;o]
I heard from several people in Germany regarding our Gary Seven project. Very nice, enthusiastic people. Maybe it’s my partial German heritage that attracts.
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Just curious, Michael, what part of Texas?
In the last month visitors from 150 countries have come to TrekMovie.com…Here are the top countries in order
1. US
2. UK
3. Canada
4. Germany
5. Australia
6. Netherlands
7. Italy
8. Brazil
9. Spain
10. Ireland
11. France
12. Austria
13. Sweden
14. New Zealand
15. Japan
16. Poland
17. Switzerland
18. Finland
19. Argentina
20. Belgium
#33. Andy Patterson –
Mid Cities between Dallas & Fort Worth.
#16,22 and 34.
Thank you Anthony for clearing that up. good to see the counries which like trek the most. United Kingdom doing very well. makes interesting reading
cheers again for your help
Greg
UK
me too….GP.
As dubbing goes it’s pretty good, but dubbing inevitably loses something :(
And in particular, the … gravity of Nimoy’s voice is nearly inimitable, I fear. This is a minor lingering concern for me about the new film (minor because I know you can’t really do much about it … we can’t clone Nimoy or magically zap him into youth, so over time there will be Spocks with less impressive voices, alas, with Quinto just being one of many to come if Trek keeps on truckin’, as I suspect it will).
As much as I love the Shat, all you really need for a Kirk _voice_ is someone that can sound a bit heroic and a bit full of themselves (with optional awkward pauses). Shat’s physicality is more distinct, but still not on the order of Nimoy’s awesome pipes.
37. Andy Patterson
Hurst for me. I have family in GP
By the way, I like the Gary Seven page!
36. Classic trek –
Greg, where in the UK are you?
I used to live in East Anglia. Stationed at RAF Lakenheath for 7 years.
Way off topic…
Here’s a link about Sally Kellerman. You remember her from the successful pilot, “Where No Man Has Gone Before”. This references her role in MASH, but I’d wager more people identify her with a) Star Trek and b) Back to School with Rodney.
http://www.tmz.com/2008/01/29/sally-kellerman-from-m-a-s-h-memba-her/
I leave comments to the esteemed assemblage…
Nice to see Canada up there at third. We tend to closely reflect the trends in the U.S.
Canada’s population is 10% of the U.S. and half that of the UK, and roughly 35% of the population of Germany.
I wonder how Canada compares internationally on a per capita basis?
The German fans I’ve met have been tremendously gracious and very cool people- especially the female ones! (On a Seatrek cruise…. long story.)
Glad they’re getting acknowledged.
#34 – whoa, thanks a lot!
What a nice list. I’m only somewhat surprised to see New Zealand higher than Japan, considering that many Japanese people are (or used to be) Trek enthusiasts. :)
#39 michael
im in wiltshire, England, UK
you in Texas USA?
greg
This adds a whole NEW spin to Star Trek
I sort of wish I knew what they were saying
but thats but of the charm I suppose.
The only thing that its lacking is the imposed
picture of Hitler on Kirks or the Captain of the
Klingons face….thats a bit much but what the heck?
Germans love Trek and David Hasslehoff.
At least that’s what I hear.
LOL!!!!
It is great to see the German Trek teaser for the German fans. I hope the new movie will feature a German character which will be played by well-known German actor/actress like Benno Fürmann, Daniel Brühl, Jürgen Prochnow or Hanna Schygulla, so it will attract non-Trekkie Germans to the movie.
In addition, it is wonderful for me to see the movie become more universal since it has talented actors and actresses from around the world like Australia, England, Canada, New Zealand and more.
Is There A Link Somewhere With the German Trailer respectively the voice?
# 46.
Not funny.