ST09 Tidbits (T+4) Spock Prime Image + Bill/JJ Hug + Church’s Enterprise Art + Post-movie Analysis + more

For today’s post movie tidbits we finally got an nice publicity shot of Leonard Nimoy as Spock Prime. We also have a nice piece of Enterprise art from Ryan Church, video of Shatner and Abrams having a moment, lots of post-movie analysis, Spock’s ship as UFO and more.

 

New Image: Spock Prime
Although they have released dozens images and a whole bunch of trailers and commercials, if you didn’t keep up with the news, you would have no idea that Leonard Nimoy was in this new Star Trek movie. Today Paramount finally released the first official publicity image of Leonard Nimoy’s Spock Prime


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Ryan Church’s Enterprise art
Speaking of new images, Ryan Church, designer of the new USS Enterprise, has updated his site with a very nice drawing of the new USS Enterprise.


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Bill and JJ hug
The fine folks at ShatnerVision have put up more video from the day the Star Trek team came to visit Bill at his charity horse show. This new video shows a nice moment between JJ and Bill.

Meeting of the Kirk’s (via Frank Caliendo)
The last ShatnerVision video showed us the real meeting of William Shatner and Chris Pine, but on his FrankTV show, Frank Caliendo brings us his version of how that meeting went:

 
Star Trek Post Game Analysis
Star Trek movie was the big game over the weekend and now the Monday Morning analysis has started, with lots of examples across the web [all articles contain spoilers].

More ST09 Bullets: Trek Tech & Jellyfish spotting

Finally, Guillermo the Vulcan
From Jimmy Kimmel Live

 

Thanks to Ulrich, Phil and Devon

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Nice art of the Big E… now I want a large scale model kit to buy.

er, something along the lines as the same size as Polar Lights’ refit Enterprise (something like 32″+ in size). I think it is 1/350 scale.

miraclefan

me too.

I’d be happy with a 1/1000 like the small Polar Lights Enterprise…

i think this movie is going to make $65-68mill next week :)

KEEP BRINGING US NEWS! AND TID BITS! I LOVE IT!!! :)

ID LIKE TO SEE THAT ENTERPRISE IN THE new TOS BLU RAY

I didn’t realize from the movie how aged they made Spock look. Leonard is no where near that old looking in real life and doesn’t have nearly as much gray in his hair. He doesn’t move like an old man and his voice is a lot less gravelly. Still, he looked beautiful in the film and I was so happy to see him back on the big screen.

1/1000 is too small

Jake

Are they gonna release the excelsior or Enterprise b model or toy ship

Enterprise B and Excelsior was released as a kit a long time ago!

Pragmaticus

If the original timeline is the “Prime” Universe, can we call the new timeline the “Alpha” Universe? Calling it “the alternate reality” is both unwieldy and neglects the fact that we’ve already had other alternate realities.

Go to http://www.culttvmanshop.com/shop/index.html to look for all sorts of Star Trek, SF figures, other science fiction-related model kits, books and other odds and ends. It is a great site!

Thasc

A 1/1000 scale Enterprise would be like… 90cm long.

Izbot

It’s amusing to me that Spock had the discipline to keep his bangs so neatly trimmed while in exile.

Keep in mind that this Enterprise is said to be 3000 ft (900 m) long, bigger than the 1701E! You may need to “scale back” your expectations and desires.

ster julie

14. Speaking of hair, I want whatever product Karl Urban and Zach Quinto used on their hair. It got wind blown a couple of times but bounced right back into place perfectly!

Where did I see that other portrait of Spock in the dark robes he was wearing when he spoke to his younger self? Great portrait, but it was obvious that it was taken when he had fallen and hurt his nose. You could see a bit of a wound on the bridge of his nose, plus a scrape on his finger. A great, dignified –albeit wounded–Spock.

Spockish

I finally made it to the movie today, with out giving no real comments on the subject matter of the move. Some real interesting aspects to the story line. The authors had good ideas but they are not real true die hard fans. Some of their plot points contradict TOS and TNG views. I know it is an alternate time line due to aspects in time. The biggest change was not the story line it was that the star ship sets no longer had the hospital like antiseptic view of technology just works why see what makes it work. It’s almost like in Biology class when you were forced to dissect a frog. You knew that a frog worked at living but many can get freaked out by visually learning how it works. But if you are into science you really want to know. JJ shows you the parts of the frog but without the grossness of the blood. And yes if you look at a broad aspect of the parts and machinery, and knowing the fact that it was filmed at an old Budweiser plant you can see the polish they pasted over the beer making parts to become star ship parts. I’ve never really been in a beer factory, but back when Nixon was our president I took a tour of Coors in Golden, this was before they were afraid of lawsuits and let you even get within inches of the beer they made and you could run… Read more »

I have the Polar Lights 1/1000 Classic Enterprise- it’s about 10 inches long. Good medium scale to play around with. Really looking forward to the Hot Wheels version too- the first three HW ships are well done.

Old Spock aside tell me how to tell my Dad why we should an old Trekker see this movie with me? 13 year old boy.

help!

True Trek

First

To Post 15 Robert St. John:

“Keep in mind that this Enterprise is said to be 3000 ft (900 m) long, bigger than the 1701E! You may need to “scale back” your expectations and desires.”

Your calculation are way off. It is clear even on screen that the ship is closer to the original length of 305 Meters . This can clearly be scene in the Enterprise Shuttle Bay sequences. Check your facts!

Thasc

#20. Not so. We’ve been batting evidence back and forth on the official forums for a good 40 pages, and most of the evidence points to a 900m length.

Nice rendidtion of the Enterprise with the color scheme of the TOS version.

Though it reminds me a LOT of the Gabriel Köerner version!

-cs™

Bill Peters

#19 Just tell your dad that this movie would be a good bonding experience and that you really want to see the film with him even if he doesn’t like the Idea of a new cast! I am sure he will want to go….if I was a father and my son asked me to go to some movie with him to experience it and talk about it with him I would go weather or not I like it!

Bill Peters

#19 ask him to go, say you think it will be a good bonding Experience and that you really want to get his take on the film! I hope he goes with you…it would be one cool Father,son Experience!

Paul

Surprisingly enough, this Enterprise looks -way- better than the one in the movie. I wonder why.

First

#21

“Not so. We’ve been batting evidence back and forth on the official forums for a good 40 pages, and most of the evidence points to a 900m length.”

Do you know how massive the exterior saucer windows would be for the ship to be 900 meters long? You can even look at the toy and figure out it is not 900 meters long. When the camera pans out of the Enterprise Bridge you can see the bridge dome is pretty much the same as the TOS bridge dome. For the ship to be 900 meters long the Bridge dome would be 4 to 5 decks high…not so according to what we saw on screen.

First

Go to starshipmodeler.com….the best site for Trek model info. One of the members is currently working on the official model kit. It will be in 1/1000 scale and is equal in size to the 1/1000 scale TOS Enterprise.

All the proof is in this thread.

P.S. This guy also designed the 1/350 scale model kit of the refit Enterprise from Polar Lights.

http://www.starshipmodeler.net/talk/viewtopic.php?t=72205

Check out the first post and click on the link…

Thasc

#26, #27: yep, I’m well aware. As I said, 40 page thread. We’ve gone through a *lot* of information, including an analysis of the windows. And it’s still 900m long.

Thasc

Quite besides which, ILM have come back to us and told us straight out that the ship is 3000 feet long.

First

#28

It’s fine…when the kit comes out then you will know for sure. For modelers like myself it is clearly around 300 meters.

The only reason that 3,000 meters is being floated around is because of Wikipedia. I could change it and put 5,000 meters. If 300 meters was the first number thrown out you would say it was 300 meters =)

First

Besides we already know its around 300 meters because of the model kit being produced….in 1/1000 scale…sheesh.

Thasc

#30 The 3000 feet quote on Wikipedia is straight from ILM. :p Between the guys who built the Enterprise and model-makers, I’m gonna go with ILM.

First

LOL…someone beat me to it!

Looks like someone already corrected the size on Wikipedia.

First

Prove to me that the 3000 was from ILM…just some goof ball making up a number.

Iowagirl

You’ve just passed Bow and Curtsy 101, JJ. How about lower intermediate? :D

Thasc

#34 sure thing. The article is here: http://www.postmagazine.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=63930E9D02644EC9A127AF67602DA756&nm=E-Newsletters&type=Publishing&mod=Publications::Article&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&tier=4&id=C0928902C93D4F8682FB2117F7DD841F . Hope that didn’t break the table.

The relevant quote is: ‘Another aspect was the daunting scale of the ships. The Enterprise is 3,000 feet long but bad guy Eric Bana’s ship is designed to appear a humongous five miles long.’

First

lol…dude…nice fake there..

That is not a quote from ILM…it is commentary from the author of the article…lol.

Get me a direct quote from someone at ILM…oh wait…you can’t.

Requiem1971

Honestly my Trek friends, I’m not to keen on the web sights some of you listed as to where to get models and decals. Not that they aren’t good, its that I know of one that I believe is best. I’ve been shopping there myself for quite sometime: http://www.federationmodels.com/ and they have it all. And what little they don’t have, they actually provide you a link to this CulTVman web sight and Starship modeler web sight. So, with this sight that I’ve listed, you will get the best of both worlds.

Thasc

#37 Oh, wow. You’re grasping at such thin straws there. You don’t seriously think the author of the article made that figure up, when it matches visual evidence, and he had the people who made the ship in front of him? Give me a break.

Off Topic H8R

Spockish, you’re more than entitled to post your opinion on this site, but Anthony has provided an area for reviews. Also, I think that Mr. Orci would be happy to address your “they are not real true die hard fans” comment. And yes, I think all indications are pointing to a continuation of the timeline that you saw in the current film; a film that happens to to appeal to “Intelligent minds”, like my own. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 17. Spockish – May 11, 2009 I finally made it to the movie today, with out giving no real comments on the subject matter of the move. Some real interesting aspects to the story line. The authors had good ideas but they are not real true die hard fans. Some of their plot points contradict TOS and TNG views. I know it is an alternate time line due to aspects in time. The biggest change was not the story line it was that the star ship sets no longer had the hospital like antiseptic view of technology just works why see what makes it work. It’s almost like in Biology class when you were forced to dissect a frog. You knew that a frog worked at living but many can get freaked out by visually learning how it works. But if you are into science you really want to know. JJ shows you the parts of the frog but without the grossness of the blood. And yes if you look at a broad aspect… Read more »

Requiem1971

#19… I think it’s great that you want to check out this movie with your dad. I have an idea that may help. If you go to an early showing on Saturday, say like the 12:00 or 1:00 show, you can pay discount pricing. As you know, movie tickets run pretty high in some places… that can be a big pill to swallow for some people, especially those that are watching their money. So, if you go to the movie before the 6:00 showing, you’ll pay as much as half that amount. Myself, I only had to pay $5 to get in. The movie is roughly two hours. But it’s got it all: action, humor, seriousness and to boot it has drama. And as this is pretty much an introduction to Star Trek, you get to be introduced to all the original characters for the first time. It’s a really enjoyable show and I’m positive he will like it. And believe me, neither of you will regret seeing this movie.

Trek Man

#39

The thing is, is that it does not match the visual evidence.

And I have no doubt that the 3000 in the article is a mistake. Along with numerous amount of grammatical errors in the article, it is nor far fetched that the number is incorrect

ILM will clear this up in a few days anyway. Untill a direct quote from ILM is released no one knows for sure.

Thasc

#42 I assure you, it does match the visual evidence. I assembled some of it myself. And a direct quote has been released; during the course of our analysis, we shot ILM an email asking about it. They confirmed that it’s 3000ft long.

Thasc

With that said, I will say that I can’t guarantee that the ship is 900m long. What I can guarantee is that the ship is not less than 700m long. That’s the absolute upper limit of my error.

Selor

The Holo site states that the Enterprise ist neither 900m long nor 305m… they say its 2500ft – 750-770m long… just a bit ahead the Sovereign… and I stick with this official experience the Enterprise site!

I’m also absolutely certain the scale of the new ship is supposed to be much as the original or 1701A, there’s a big mistake there somewhere at 3000″!
To me the saucer outer rim is slightly thicker but still 2 decks for sure.
Look at where Kirk looks up at the ship uder construction, there are some small cg human figures working on the ship that indicate the true scale, one figure walking. Clearly around the 1000″ scale, no doubt.

Selor

Ah and Those 762m are much more probable when looking at the ships outer hull, the windows, the shuttle bay… everythings seems to fit!^^

Thasc

#46 I invite you to watch the final upwards pan from the first teaser trailer. A welder can be seen working on the forward edge of the saucer. His size indicates that the saucer has three or four decks in its outer rim.

Model Man

#43

Feel free to post the email.

I agree with Pike…the ship is about 1,000 feet long.

For those that think it is bigger you need to bring a stable number to the table…3,000 feet or 2,500 feet.

I also agree that it does not match the visual evidence.

JoBlo

#19. True Trek.

You make it sound like he doesn’t want to see it because he’s a fan of the old and doesn’t want to see it messed with — assuming that’s the case, first of all. I went with my dad today, I’m 19 though, and he loved it! He thought the filmmakers and new actors nailed the characters and thought it was as good as Star Trek has been in about 15 years. He loved seeing the OLD Star Trek back. You might tell him that.

More than anything though, like everyone else said — let him know that you’re excited for it. You’ve heard good things about it and that it would mean a ton if he went to see it with you. Most likely you have other people you can see it with — but you want to go with HIM. And let him know if it sucks you’ll never ask to spend time with him again. That should cake on the guilt pretty thick, and if you’re dad is anything like mine — that should work.