ST09 Tidbits: Orci On Shatner Scene + Kirk Babies + Star Trek Inspires Star Wars Reboot? + more

Star Trek has passed the one old month mark, but it still makes news. Today we have a collection of tidbits from video of Bob Orci talking Shatner (and wearing a funny hat), some details on the baby Kirk, Star Trek inspiring people to think of a Star Wars reboot, and more, including the latest box office numbers.

 

Bob Orci talks Shatner scene, reviews ‘Star Trek’, wears cowboy hat
The ShatnerVision folks are still putting out videos from the Charity Horse Show dinner which was attended by JJ Abrams, Chris Pine and many of the Trek team. Now they have a video interview with Star Trek co-writer Roberto Orci where he talks about the scene they wrote for Shatner and more. He also is wearing the one of the cowboy hats they gave out at the event:

Kirk’s birth doctor talks ‘baby wranglers’
In a new interview with HotterInHollywood, Sonita Henry (the Kelvin Doctor), talks about what it .

HIH: Sonita, you have a pretty vital role in the film. As a Starfleet doctor, you basically bring our main man (James T. Kirk) into the world. Were there any baby wranglers involved? How was shooting that chaotic delivery scene?

SH: I think three mothers turned up that morning with three different babies, and then we had to choose one. But I believe there were two fake babies and then one real baby. I don’t really hang out with kids, I’m not around babies, so I kept thinking I was going to drop someone’s [child]. And these babies are ten days old! Brand new babies. Time to not drop a child. It wasn’t chaotic. It was extremely quiet on set. And the problem was that the scene itself had to be very chaotic, so it was a very interesting dynamic, keeping your energy at that level but, at the same time, on a set where you could drop a pin and hear it.


Don’t drop the Kirk!

Reboot Star Wars ala Star Trek
We have pointed to a number of articles about taking lessons from the new Star Trek move, but now io9 has one saying that the Star Wars franchise can learn a thing or two from JJ Abrams (which is ironic after the comparisons of the new Star Trek to Star Wars). In their article ‘How To Reboot Star Wars‘, Here are some lessons from Trek:

3) Get back to the characters we care about. It sounds basic, but that’s how J.J. Abrams revitalized Star Trek. Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia, Han Solo, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Darth Vader. The classic characters.

4) Admit that Han Solo is the hero as much as Luke. That’s the other thing J.J. Abrams’ Star Trek did right: It treated Spock as the hero, just as much as Kirk. We all knew, all along, that Spock belonged in the top spot alongside Kirk, but the series had never quite admitted it before. (Probably due to Shatner’s ego, among other things.) Han Solo deserves a similar elevation. Like Kirk and Spock, Han and Luke are the yin and yang, except that they go in opposite directions. ….


Rebooting Star Wars? Don’t forget the lens flare

ST09 comic stip wraps up
In a previous tidbits we pointed to a new series of web comic strips about the new Star Trek movie at MotionPictureComics.com. The folks at that site just sent in an email to let us know they have wrapped up their strip with a total of 17 entries. 


 

Box Office Update: $336.3M Worldwide
Star Trek’s fifth Monday was the first day it made less than $1M, with a domestic gross of $926K, coming in a very close sixth place behind Terminator 4 ($934K). But Star Trek’s drop from last week was only 27%, which isn’t shabby. Trek’s total domestic sales are now$223.6M. Star Trek also brought in $679K in overseas sales for a total foreign take of $112.6M. The total global gross is now $336.3M.

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Yikes! I don’t see cowboy hats ever fitting in as uniform items on the bridge (grin).

Hey far out.

Didn’t Kirk’s shirt in Trek V say “Go climb a glacier”?

Question for Mr. Orci (I don’t think this was asked in the previous Q&A articles): Why was Nero wading through water when he was interrogating Captain Pike, and later Kirk was wading in water when he rescued Pike? Was this related to the cut scenes with the Klingons? Thanks!

Star Wars reboot? Uh-oh. Roberto Orci looks awesome in the cowboy hat btw

i have said that they should do something with the characters we first enjoyed watching as kids from Star Wars before they did the prequels. But I would rather see Episode VII than a reboot of Star Wars. A New Hope? Really? Can’t we just let it be?

Wow that comic strip made me laugh. Obviously they were incapable of doing anything for 25 years, but funny nonetheless.

Orci sounds drunk in this interview

I’m eagerly waiting for reboots of Citizen Kane, The Godfather and The French Connection, in which each movie is shot in a studio where all the greenscreen backgrounds are replaced with CGI.

Make sure they all are rated PG-13, too.

I think that would be AWESOME.

Can someone transcribe what he said about the Shatner scene please?

Thanks!

ST 5 was “Go Climb a Mountain”

#3 No, it said “Go climb a rock” (I think)

Wait, Shatner wasn’t in the movie? How come it was so good then… does not computer…

Mr Orci: Seriously. Lose the hat.

It was “Go climb a rock”, people.

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at the end, when Spock Prime confronts young Spock, he gives his younger self a holo-message that Kirk Prime gave to him as a sort of “ill always remember you old friend” message, sometime right before Kirk dies.

It seems in that old draft of the script, Spock Prime had a more difficult time convincing young Spock how important the Kirk and Spock relationships was so young Spock listened, and watched i guess, this Shatner message to Spock Prime. The Shatner voice-over would then play over young Kirk receiving his commendation

there we have it Straight from the Horses mouth, “Next Gen” fan, plus TOS “Movie” fan Only!!!

Nobody on the Staff watched TOS or wanted to, and that’s why the Movie Sucked.

it’s like if they did their own version of a New Next Gen movie but based the characters on their appearances on DS9 or Voyager.

#17, I’m a TOS fan AND a TNG fan and I thought the film was fantastic. This just proves you can’t please everyone all the time.

I know that Trek 5 was not the best but come on people. Idid say Go climb a rock. A Star Wars reboot. No. But how about a chapter 7. 8. 9. lets go past return of the jedi. Ocan write along with J.J Abrams. But of corse lucas can be there to. Oh Orci. How many drinks did you have.

If Star Wars had to do anything, I’d enjoy a movie based on the “Knights of the Old Republic” series of games. I’m not even a Star Wars fan and I enjoyed that story.

Ouch. I just read all those ST XI comics @ “motionpicturecomics.com”. Bad. Really, really bad. The art was OK, but none of them were even remotely funny.

IMO.

@17

So, when did Trolls joined the Maquis?

Oh and Bob, I’ll wear everything when i’m writing. but one should never… ever… wear that hat ;-)

#7. The Governator (on Nero and Narada)

That was not made Obvious, it was swept under the carpet until the writers decided to use them again, what happened to them? I don’t know. what were they doing? I don’t know.

now I am aware that somehow in the deleted scenes this involves the Klingons, and yes the Prison “The wait is over” thing. Uhura does mention the Klingons getting wiped out by them, but without actually seeing what happened to them in the real cut of the movie, it seems like they just sat around for 25 years doing nothing. 47 Klingon ships can’t hurt ’em, a Starfleet armada can’t hurt ’em. Oh but an obsolete science vessel crashes into them and they’re fu%&ed!! I’ve only seen this movie once, someone explain what they were doing. Oh and The Comic isn’t canon.

#17. I am a fan of all things Trek. From Tos to Enterprise and all the Movies.I even have seen all of James Cawleys work on Phase 2 fan show. Even the not so good Movies. . I loved the latest Movie and it was the best of all of them. Even better then Trek 2 which i did not think possible. To me it’s not all about techno babble or fx but about stories and the Hart. Theres some pretty great episodes of Voyager and Enterprise and Ds9. Some bad ones but a lot of good ones. The lattest Trek Movie i thought had a great story and thats why it has done mega Millions. Story!!!!!

#18. Sloan47

okay, true.

#19. Capt Mike of the Terran Empire

I liked ST5 a little…..

So is Orci saying?:

Luke = Kirk
Han = Spock
Leia = Uhura
Ben = Spock Prime
Chewie = Sulu
R2D2 = Chekov
C3P0 = McCoy
Lando = Scotty
Yoda = Pike
Vader = Nero

#22. Annoying Doorchime

Yeah we’re what? 25, 26 comments in….yeah. Sure

From the Sonita Henry interview:

“I kept thinking I was going to drop someone’s [child]. ”

I wonder what she REALLY said, that they felt they had to plug in the word “child”?

Trek 5 Was for me started out good. But the end plot was just pathetic. I kep thinking that maybe the Klingons would attack or have a second warbird decloak and fire. But the way it ended just left me hangon on Air. But trek 6 was fantastic. Trek 09 was a hell of a Ride!!!!!! But that was a beautifull baby they had that protrayed baby kirk. I ca imagine that little baby in 18 years or so will be able to say he played James T Kirk and his frends will be very Envious.

The Star Wars prequels and “special editions” were already reboots of a sort.

Mr. Orci… a while back you had stated on here in the comments section that you would like to discuss “Three philosophical cores” that were in the film. Will that time be soon?

Thanks!

That Shatner scene would have stunk, glad they didn’t do it. Frankly, the only reason to have Shatner would have been live, in the flesh, playing alongside Nimoy. That is how they were meant to be, and their infrequent appearances over the last 20 years alone have never felt right.

No more Star Wars prequals or reboots. Lets get Chapters 7. 8. 9.

The Shatner cameo would have been fantastic, fitting, emotional and a great “farewell” to the role. It’s that last reason that part of me is glad he declined.

I know the sequel will be great without Shatner, but I’m one of those that really, truly want to see Shatner as James Kirk one more time on the big screen. He’s not getting any younger…

As much as i would love to see the shat on screen i say no. he had is time on screen in Generations and had a good send off for Kirk. Let Pine be Kirk from now on. As far as Nimoy i do want him in Trek one more time to give the Franchise a big send off to explore strange new worlds. But let the new cast have Trek all to them selves and let them take trek for the next 10 to 20 years.

I can’t imagine a Star Wars reboot working. Star Wars is still pretty mainstream (look at book, game and toy sales, as well as The Clone Wars). I personally think that the reboot thing only works for franchises that have been forgotten by everyone but the hardcore fans.

Where’s the news on the live action Star Wars TV series. Not at starwarsdotcom-yet. Looking forward to that.

It will be interesting to see if anyone from the original series will make it into the next movie. I personally think that it would be great to sneak Nichelle Nichols in somehow. I always felt like Uhura’s story was waiting to be told, and the folks behind this movie made me feel like I wasn;t the only one. Loved the “new” Uhura, although, as a fan, always thought she could do those things we didn;t see until the new movie.

As to Star Wars, #33, I agree! What happened after the fall of the Empire? Was Lea made President? Was there a counter-revolution? Were the Jedi re-established? Bring in a 50+ year old Luke Skywalker played by Mark Hammil dealing with his children. I want to know what happened to Lando and Han and Chewie.

No more prequels – don;t reboot Star Wars. ST had the benefit of taking off from where TOS left off and going forward. With SW, they should have done the same.

Live long and prosper, and boldly go!

Off Topic:

I voted No Mudd in the poll.
Like I said in another post, everyone can watch Mudd, Tralene, Gary Seven, Charlie(x) and …. many more on dvds. I’d like to see something totally new in the next movie. And please don’t put Khan in the sequel. Mr Orci don’t listen to the haters , it’s a nice hat ;)

that comic strip sums it all up nicely…

how does everyone feel that now the series “enterprise” is left intact and all the rest of trek is now non existent?

the crew of the 1701-d might not ever even be born, due to the massive altering of the timeline.

small rifts, tend to mend themselves, but the destruction of an entire, pivotal race?

changes everything, affects earth history from that event on, in an undeniable way.

but hey, at least it was a kick ass movie.

Word of advice to Orci. That hat does NOT suit you buddy.

#38 you are right. What did happen to Haun and Leia and Luke. Did leia learn to use the Force like her brother and father and did they have children. I know that in some of the books they had twins but if they did did they have powers and were there any other jedi out there that simply hid.
trek had the Advantage of not just a reboot but a continuation of sorts. So on Treks side it is simply continuing.

Bob Orci. A great Writer you are. You are Talented and Smart. But the Hat has got to go.. Sorry buddy. Just my Blue Collor Opinion.

I wouldn’t mind a Star Wars ‘reboot’ or additional prequel if it focused on other aspects of the SW universe. Like, uh… smugglers.

Seriously, a film featuring Solo’s backstory (the academy, saving Chewie, winning the Falcon from Lando, etc) could be a LOT of fun. And a lot of action.

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that were it to happen we shouldn’t hold our breath on a Ford cameo.

A Star Wars reboot? I always thought it needed more lens flares!

Ideally, I’d have liked the new Trek ‘reboot’ to have somehow cleverly included some kind of POST-‘Generations’ onscreen pairing of ‘PRIME’ Kirk alongside ‘PRIME’ Spock….. Alas, in the end there turned out to be quite a few reasons why the movie wasn’t designed with this potential TOS fan-pleaser in mind, it seems….

Seeing a deceased ‘PRIME’ Kirk in some kind of brief ‘holo’-message would have been a miserable appearance for William Shatner in this thing, as far as I’m concerned….so I’m glad it didn’t pan out that way. It would have just reminded me of the fact that ‘Generations’ (with Bill’s co-operation of course, unfortunately!) got rid of his iconic character in the first place!

If anything, the hat should’ve been black. =P

It’s a shame to see the MPC Star Trek comics end. I really liked them.

“We all knew, all along, that Spock belonged in the top spot alongside Kirk, but the series had never quite admitted it before. (Probably due to Shatner’s ego, among other things.)”

Ummmm……Nimoy and Shatner have ALWAYS been known to be the stars. Every single episode and movie (except Part III that Nimoy directed) revolve around both those characters.

So yeah, the series “admitted that” many, many years ago.

The “Shatner’s ego” jab was completely off them mark and unneccesary.

NO STAR WARS REBOOT……….please. The series is just fine the way it is, Jar Jar, ewoks and all

Starting to hate how Star Wars has been sideling-up to TREK for all these years now.