Sometimes it seems YouTube was invented just for Star Trek fans to publish creative mash-ups. The new Star Trek movie has inspired a few, with a number of them focusing on how the crews of the ‘prime timeline’ might react to the events of the new movie. Below we have a selection of some of the best (including one just published), and all from YouTubers presented before here at TrekMovie.
Star Trek XI Picard Vs Abrams Edition
by DMPhoenix
Star Trek XI’s Repercussions
by GeneralGrin
TOS & TNG crews react to new Star Trek movie
by GeneralGrin
Kirk & Crew vs JJ Abrams (2 parts)
by Sopmylo
Thanks to Ulrich, Dan and anyone else who send in links.
WOOOO
2003?
LMAO! We have enough digital Trek to roll entirely new episodes.
…that scares me…
“You never have to see Star Trek to love this movie. We’re not making Star Trek for Star Trek fans. We’re making Star Trek for movie goers.”
Well, I was always under the assumption that when Star Trek first started out it wasn’t made for fans because it didn’t even have a FREAKING FAN BASE! They didn’t have any classical Trek moments that they spoofed, threw in as montages or duplicate lines to poke fans with. How can you say that you’re not making Star Trek for fans when Star Trek itself wasn’t even made for fans?
These elements that fans love about the show weren’t put there to drive people away, they were there to serve the story. You take those out and reduce Star Trek to a “leave your brain at the door” summer action flick than you aren’t aiming Trek in the right direction. Nothing about this new movie got me to care for the story, the characters or even it’s own universe. We’re now stuck with a new trek series that, like Star Wars (which JJ is a much bigger fan of), is about a bunch of arrogant a**holes who don’t develop into better characters nor have any true sense of right or wrong.
So what happens after these movie goers become fans of this new movie? You going to try and say you’re not going to make another movie for fans and reduce Star Trek to a low-brainer action flick that will appeal only to teen audiences? Frell, I’d love to get my hands on JJ’s series and tell everyone that I’m not going to make a movie/series for fans and everything that made the show unique I’m just going to replace it with cliches and tropes.
JJ, you are talent, but you’re going in the wrong direction.
I never realized how many times the word “timeline” was mentioned in Star Trek!
#2: 2003 was probably picked because it was close enough to the actual time, and it was easiest to edit Data’s “2063” line to remove the 60.
Those last two videos are so true, about the quality of the movie, and about Nimoy’s intentions. Perfect.
Everyone says the Prime timeline had to happen in order for the new movie to take place, therefore preserving canon even though they are resetting the universe.
Star Trek is the history of the future. Except now it’s gutted and raped. The Mirror universe is proof that multiple parallel universes exist. Kirk, you’re not in Iowa anymore.
Anyone who have ever watched original Star Trek and knows the character of Spock knows he will not accept his defeat lightly. He blames himself for failing to save Romulus, therefore he set into the motion the events that led to his mother’s death and the destruction of billions of Vucan that should have never died. For Prime Spock once to say “there always are possibilite” and came back from death himself, it would be quite illogical and wrong for the writers to not have Spock slinghost around the sun or use the Guardian of Forever to return the universe to order.
Stop patronizing people by telling them the prime timeline had to happen in order for Star Trek 09 to happen, therefore canon was preserved. Some people are just too intelligent for that.
#8 Spock wouldn’t have left Kirk in that nexus, nor would he have accepted Kirk’s death. They were never able to tell a story about Spock going back for Kirk because hell, Berman and Sherry Lansing never wanted Shatner to return, and they definitely didn’t want to do anything TOS related.
Finally Nimoy is involved in Trek again, and they leave Kirk dead. They could have brough Shatner back and had his resurrection explained in one of the comics (like they did for Data). Or simply put Kirk’s resurrection as part of the Nimoy flashback — which was a few minutes of exposition anyway.
I have to wonder what the film would have been like with Kirk and Spock from the future back in time meeting their younger selves. Nimoy’s Spock took such a passive approach to his arrival in the past. Let the new kids sort it. Kirk wasn’t even a qualified officer. Why would a cadet have to take control of a ship?
Kirk Prime would have beamed on the ship himself and took a more active role working together with his younger self to save the day. It would have made more sense the older Kirk would come up with a strategy that the younger cadet could learn from. It would also have been fun to see Older and Younger Kirk in conflict with each other. The script would only have required a minor rewrite to accomplish this.
Sopmylo,
Love it brother! Someone who thinks of the new film the way I do. LOVE IT! Beautiful….just Brilliant!
9. John from Cincinnati — I guess I’m not too intelligent, then. I accept the “prime timeline had to happen in order for Star Trek 09 to happen” idea. It was a perfect compromise between “complete reboot” and “slavishly detailed sequel.”
In post #8 you even say “The Mirror universe is proof that multiple parallel universes exist.” Well, the new timeline is a parallel universe–or an “alternate reality” or “alternate timeline.” Since you say those have been proven to exist in Trek, what’s the problem with the new timeline?
It’s fine for you to disagree about the new film leaving the prime canon intact, but please don’t insult those of us who accept it. I’m pretty intelligent, thank you very much, so please stop being patronizing about YOUR decision not to accept it.
John:
Spock Prime did not lose his mother. He outlived both Amanda and Sarek in his timeline.
For him to ‘blame himself’ for the destruction of Romulus is not logical, as he did all that was within his power, except to get there on time due to an unforeseen random element.
Now, as “there are always possibilities,” he knows he can save Romulus in this timeline, and achieve a degree of balance in “the universe,” and do his best to resettle the remaining Vulcans to a new colony.
I can’t think of a better way to live out one’s remaining days usefully.
First one was the best by far LOL….
The first mashup is pretty cute–especially since it manages to restore the timeline AND wipe out the TNG crew all at once!
But the rest of them…just boring! Too long, too unfunny. Seeing the TOS crew react to the Abrams crew by passing out and raising eyebrows was amusing–once. But it just went on and on like a bad SNL skit (redundant, I know).
In the third video, I love Spock’s reaction after seeing his younger self!
HA HA these videos are great…Just wait til everyone has a copy of the whole new movie to use, I think we will really see some funny videos then! I cant wait ! AHAHAH,….
Also looks like the spoof videos are attracting those more critical of the new movie again too..hmmmmmmmmmm
I hope Roberto gets to see these spoof videos they are great
#8, that’s an interesting premise. Could the original Spock become the villain in the next film?
The early onset of Bendaii syndrome, or whatever illness his father died of makes Spock give into his emotional side and he decides to do whatever is necessary to restore the original time line and prevent the destruction of Vulcan, even if it means destroying his doppelganger and his ship and crew mates in the process…
#7 – I don’t know where you get your information about Mr. Nimoy’s intentions. Certainly not from anything he’s said publicly. The fact is, he’s rich and didn’t need to do this for the money.
Awesome! Spock and the flower scene had me rolling!
Hmm, the Enterprise E blowing up JJ Abrams. Sounds like a dream come true, except Orci and Kurtzman should have been in the building as well. :P
21. DGill
I want too.
They say they preserve canon, but then go around and say “only my time travel theories exist in this new universe”.
WTF!!!
Spock would never sacrifice his family and homeworld to save Romulas. I wouldn0t. It’s not logical. Kill some to save some. NO NO NO
Get over it!
New film was great…I have no difficulty in ignoring the alternate time line jazz and accepting the events of ST09 as the history of Kirk and Co
While equally I have no difficulty in accepting that it is entirely fictional and therefore I can happily watch new Kirk stories without them somehow compramising TOS, as they are two connected but seperate fictional entities
@John from Cincinnati
Yea, I would agree that it would be great to see some kind of story arc, possibly spanning several movies, where Spock tries to restore the original timeline, or at least as much of it as possible, somehow restoring saving Vulcan AND Romulus and which brings about peace between the two races. I don’t want to see Spock ever turn into some kind of villian or anti-hero though. I think Spock should always remain true to his logic and integrity.
It might even be fun to bring the Q back, though I wouldn’t count on de Lancie playing the part. I think he’s getting too old too look like himself as a Q, since they’re basically ageless.
“All I’m getting is a whine…”
There has to be a way to use that line in a context about the backlash. It’s too perfect to pass up.
The whole “now time travel works this way!” thing still bugs me, since it ignores and retcons almost all previous canon, as exemplified by the second video above. Sure, it was a good movie–but I’m still definitely not in love with the “new” incarnation of Trek. Hopefully, the sequel will be able to change my mind.
I’m not holding my breath, though.
Prime timeline FTW!
#18, #8 – Yeaaah. That’s a great idea!
Imagine, Spock Prime sees that these new characters are making a decision he fundamentally and wholeheartedly believes to be in error. We can get two strong sides on an uncertain issue — like with Wesley’s stunt at the academy. And we can see Spock face himself. It would challenge audiences in so many ways. I love it!
ONG… THAT was the funniest stuff I’ve seen in years!
TOP SHELF… ALL OF IT!!!
That should say OMG
“9. John from Cincinnati – August 3, 2009
Stop patronizing people by telling them the prime timeline had to happen in order for Star Trek 09 to happen, therefore canon was preserved. Some people are just too intelligent for that.”
Thanks for the insult.
If you actually look at it, the prime timeline DOES have to happen for this movie to occur. Don’t let your well-known dislike for Trek (’09) color your decision.
Your insults certainly diminish any point you were trying to make.
Let’s face it: this incarnation of Trek has a different energy and emphasis than the one we grew up on. I enjoyed it tremendously but upon reflection am not 100% onboard with all the creative decisions that were made,
Yet the bottom line is that I did enjoy it. A lot. If this be the state of 21st century Trek, then by all means, “let’s see what’s out there!”
Great movie..too bad the nerds can’t understand it!
I am a fan of the the 5 Series and 10 movies that came before and I love this new feel to trek! it is great to get new men behind the helm of Star Trek…Some of the hardcore fans will have to deal with the fact that what people want to see also drives this film as well as what we the fans like! Or would you rather Star Trek Stayed in the state it was with Berman? I for one am glad Star Trek Lives Again!
Jeyl, John from Cincinnati, etc…
Then why, oh why, do you spend time on the site that has championed Trek 2009 from the get go?
We know how you feel, because you come here day after day to bash a film that was released in MAY.
You guys would have a little more credibility if you just stuck with “I just didn’t like it”.
Using words like “raped” to describe a film, which, in reality makes-up a drop in the bucket of all Trek ever produced, is irrational at best. I’d love to have a psychologist do a write-up on why a certain faction of Trekkies are so threatened by this movie.
Are you guys going to threadcrap here until the Blu-ray is released? How about the sequel? I’m begging you not to. Having you imply that those of us who enjoyed Trek ’09 are unintelligent is getting old. I’m sure that you can rally everyone else who feels as you do and get them to be anti-trolls at miserabletrekkies.com
Check godaddy.com, miserabletrekkies.com is still available. You can even buy infalliblechurchofstartrek.com and have it redirect to miserabletrekkies.com for that one-two punch of wallowing in styrofoam, rubber masks and stock footage sorrow.
I loved these mashups. Very funny, especially the first one!
And I do agree with everyone who is a little ticked off for JJ rewriting Trek history. They have that right and it is justified.
Would it have killed anyone to put continuity in the design elements of the movie? For example: When Nero came back in time and encountered the Kelvin, the desginers could have made the Kelvin more of a mix between the designs of ST:Enterprise & ST:TOS. I would have bought the whole story much better if they had done that. Another example: When they showed Spock in the future, couldn’t the designers/writers put in a little more ST:TNG designs in the ships, consoles, make-up of the Romulans, etc. etc. to show the “prime” universe a little more?
But no, they didn’t. They rebooted it completely and tried to gloss over 40 years of creative work from production designers, writers, directors, and actors with a single “flash in the pants” story. (Or should I say “glare in the lens)
Now don’t get me wrong. I LIKED the new movie. I thought it was a unique and interesting way to breath new life into Star Trek. And that needed to be done. And I will be eternally grateful to all those involved that Star Trek will continue to be produced hopefully for another 40 years.
But not to acknowledge that Prime Universe beyond bringing back one single actor, a couple of hidden jokes and a few familiar sound bytes… it just didn’t sit too well with me and with a lot of other Trekkies and Trekkers out there who grew up loving those characters and stories. It is akin to seeing the home you grew up in being torn down and replaced by a brand new Jiffy Mart.
It seems to me that the movie would have had broader appeal if the production designers had simply incorporated a few designs of the previous work done. That’s all. And it wouldn’t have cost much to do it. (A good example of how this worked VERY well is the remastered works of ST:TOS)
Finally, let me just suggest this perspective: this new movie has brought in more money than any other Star Trek movie before it. However, count up ALL the money from ALL the movies and ALL the TV series and ALL the sales linked to those works before ST09… well the new movie looks a little smaller.
Peace!
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Nerd or not…I understood it. I just didn’t like it.
One generation had Basil Rathbone as Sherlock Holmes and will always declare his interpretation “the best ever”. Another will always revere the twitchy, mercurial performance by Jeremy Brett in the 80s Granada TV series (a proto-Doctor Who if ever there was). Many say that Hugh Laurie is like a parallel Holmes on House (get it? House…Homes…Holmes? his sidekick’s Wilson, just one step away from Watson?) Now we’ve got (yes) Robert Downey Jr. and Jude Law stepping into the roles of Holmes and Watson, in a Guy Ritchie actioner that’ll be full of speed-ramps and fast cuts and anachronisms.
You know why? Because they’re making a movie for a popcorn-cineplex audience 100 years removed from the original books. It doesn’t prevent anyone from reading and enjoying the original Arthur Conan Doyles, nor from enjoying the previous cinematic and television adaptations (of which there are no less than 114 different results on IMDB), which range from serious to spoof, camp midnight movie to Spielberg.
Trek is not nearly as old as Holmes but would you argue that Holmes fans are any less passionate about their stories and characters?
If Trek had started out as pulp sci-fi novels, we might have been more forgiving because even the original TV show would have been an ‘adaptation’. Then again the Trek pulp novel industry generates dozens of different backstories and parallel realities and no one kicks up a fuss about it.
Since Trek started out in the visual medium, we became attached to the very first incarnation of this “literature”, taking its conventions and quirks to be the Holy Word. Well, like print literature, over time, people do remakes, reinventions, alternate takes and anthologies of untold tales. Just like Holmes, or the Knights of the Round Table, or every decade’s need to do a comic book superhero Crisis on Infinite Topographic Oceans of Secret Sauce-Wars that reboots the multiverse.
If we manage not to completely screw up THIS planet, then I’m certain Star Trek will eventually filter into the public domain and you’ll start to see more people doing interesting takes on the original source material.
I’m hoping the sequel delves deeper into the characters. I want to see more McCoy, specifically, and learn more about Uhura. But this movie was about rivals becoming friends in the middle of a crisis. The Kirk-Spock friendship is at the core of Trek and wow – what a way to tell that story. I don’t feel betrayed at all; I feel like for once we got a real insight into the characters (with a lot of eye candy, which doesn’t hurt.)
To me, these kinds of mashups are the petulant whining of children. Or worse: the nitpicking negative nabobbbery of Questies.
One of the main complaints I have with the movie about appealing to continuity-hungry fans is that they may have hit us too hard over the head with “this is an alternate continuity and we’re free to play. you still have your old continuity but this is our sandbox now.” The scene when Spock figured it out hammered it in so much I was expecting them to make a moral out of it. But no, it’s just an attempt to appease the unappeasable.
That said, I’m mixed on design and continuity. I’m fond of the redesign of the uniforms (for a brief time I thought the black collars of the original design WERE undershirts), and I would have liked to see more updates on the classic designs. A bridge that looks like if you designed the TOS one with modern sensibilities would be great, and the person who puts a TOS-style notepad with an obvious video screen would have my undying loyalty.
I liked parts, I didn’t like parts, but aaalll of these videos are nothing more than crying about reasonable or justified things.
I for one will be happy to see the next film or multiple films, and will eat my popcorn and rejoice that, yes indeed, Star Trek Lives!!! Before J.J.’s interpretation of the Original Series ( albeit, alternate or divergent timeline) it was beginning to look as if Trek was really dead & gone, but alas , like the phoenix it has arisen from its ashes… and appears to be more exciting than ever! See you at the theatre, if you dare to boldly go…
#4 “You take those out and reduce Star Trek to a “leave your brain at the door” summer action flick […]”
I think that’s an understatement. There’s more nuance, plot, character and social insight in a typical 1990s Jean Claude Van Damme movie than there was in this particular take on Star Trek.
#21: “Hmm, the Enterprise E blowing up JJ Abrams. Sounds like a dream come true, except Orci and Kurtzman should have been in the building as well. :P”
Hey, easy now. Roberto Orci has been extremely generous with his time here. In honor of that, he should have been far from the building, on a remote island without any contact with the outside world, but provided with enough food and water to live out his life peacefully … only to be recalled if someone needs another remake of Parts: The Clonus Horror.
I mean, really. Show some respect.
It´s fun. Pitty, that the first ended with destruction of the E, but the beginning was great :-D The new film is officialy said to be alternate timeline, with no influence on the 40-year Trek history, so because of theis I have no problem with the new movie. I didn´t like it, but no bad feelings, like other movies I didn´t like.
They should be on the DVD!
“I mean, really. Show some respect.”
LOL, yeah. Hypocrisy I say. Just because Orci is here feeding the nerds with some bits here and there, people need to show “respect”. But it’s okay to trashtalk other guys from the business who haven’t shown up here, I guess?
If Orci writes trash, he has to live with the fact that there are people who call his work trash. And yes, his script for Trek 2009 is pure garbage. Unfortunately, garbage makes a shitload of money these days, which is why he won’t have to rethink the way he writes scripts.
36. Finding Nimoy – August 3, 2009
Stop your bi*chin.
This forum is for opinions of all kinds.
He can say WTF he wants.
U dont like it, dont read it.
And I generally liked the film, just not that now we only have 1 type of time travel because Orci says so. That is SO un-trek. If he wants star trek turned unside down, then maybe he should write a non star trek sci fi movie. I would have enjoyed that more. I dont want summer action film, I want summer star trek film.
#46: Mission: Write a Star Trek script that is consistent with past canon, allows for a new stylistic take on the series, permits a new “future history” to be created, is true to the TOS characters, is respectful of science (while pushing the envelope), and contains an interesting story that makes people think long after the movie is done.
Say what you will, Orci & Co. accomplished the mission.
I could do that immediately, but I’m sure Paramount will send it back unread. Or won’t send it back because it landed in the trash can unread.
#10– I’m not sure you really understand what an undertaking writing anything is. What you propose is in essence a completely different film in tone and structure. Several new elements have to be constructed to make Old Kirk work.
Do you really think there wouldn’t be a monstrous amount of bandwidth expended across the internets due to fans bitching that Kirk’s resurrection was handled in a *flashback*?
Please.
Kirk’s death isn’t the new creative team’s fault. Other people made those poor decisions, and its frankly not the responsibility of a new team to try and fix those mistakes.
Simple rewrite. Geez….