Meet The Cast Of ‘Star Trek: Strange New Worlds’

A new promotional video was just shared with the Star Trek Day audience. In it we are re-introduced to Anson Mount(Pike), Ethan Peck (Spock), and Rebecca Romijn (Number One), who we saw in Discovery season 2 and Short Treks, and then the new cast members are introduced.

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Most of the new cast members were announced in March but not their characters—now we know who they’re playing, and there are some familiar character names among them:

●  Jess Bush is Nurse Christine Chapel
●  Christina Chong is La’an Noonien-Singh
●  Celia Rose Gooding is Cadet Nyota Uhura
●  Melissa Navia is Lt. Erica Ortegas
●  Babs Olusanmokun is Dr. M’Benga
●  Bruce Horak is Hemmer

In this new video, we can see that Number One’s full name is Una Chin-Riley, which had been used in some novels, and is now canon.

Other things of interest: the last name Noonien-Singh, a rather infamous name because of Khan, but we weren’t given any more context there. And Hemmer appears to be an Aenar, a subspecies of Andorian. Aenar are usually blind and rarely leave their isolated region of Andoria. Actor Bruce Horack is an eye cancer survivor who is blind in one eye and has severely limited sight in the other.

New sets and uniforms

As we had heard before, the sets and uniforms were not going to be identical to the ones seen in Discovery season 2, since new sets were built in CBS’ new studio space in the Toronto area (Mississauga).  We get our first look at the transporter room behind the actors and a look at the new (more comfortable-looking) take on early TOS uniforms.

Uniforms

Anson Mount as Captain Pike in his new uniform

Ethan Peck as Lt. Spock in new uniform, and a haircut more like Spock in “The Cage”

For reference here’s Spock in “The Cage”

Transporter room

We see the transporter room from a few different angles. The new set seems to have a blend of influences from TOS, Discovery, and the Kelvin movies.

Ethan Peck on the transporter room set

Melissa Navia on the transporter room set

More to come

There is much more to come on this big Star Trek Day, with more announcements expected. So stay tuned to TrekMovie for our full Star Trek Day coverage.


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Another character named Noonien-Singh? Are they still trying to find Roddenberry’s lost friend named that?

Descendent.

I know long time not comment… I still lurk, but this brought me out!! I am soooo excited about this show.

Small universe, heh?

This is a bit of my issue with stuff like this. As much as I love classic Trek, why are they so beholden to it? Haven’t we seen that starfleet is a huge organization? Isn’t civilization spread out throughout the galaxy at this point?

Ditto, I hope they don’t turn Trek into Star Wars, where literally everything revolved around the Skywalker family.

Skywalker/Palpatine family. The prequels hinted at Anakin being the son of Palpatine. And Disney made Rey Emperor Palpatines daughter and granddaughter. Its really messed up.

Yeah. Not thrilled about that at all. Wonder what the connection is.

Another point no one else has made. Though I’m glad to see better East-Asian representation (obvious reference to a recent movie), it seems as though Indians (also Asians???) are getting a raw deal yet again.

Three ‘Noonien Singhs’ so far (I think). One played by a Mexican Actor (the best incarnation). One by a White-British Actor. And now an East-Asian Actress. I get that with descendants they can be of any ethnicity. It just seems as though the ‘Noonien Singhs’ are going the way of ‘Captain Nemo’. A little uncomfortable to watch given all the rightful emphasis on representation these days.

Anyway, looking forward to this show, but to steal a Doctor Bashir phrase:

”I hate the uniforms. I do”.

These are a slight upgrade over the DSC unis, but surprisingly, the Kelvin uniforms still look better. Of all the things you didn’t need a huge visual retcon from the original series (and i’m a big advocate of updating the visuals), it’s the uniforms. Give them a bit of texture for HD cameras, maybe a stiffer fabric, and you’re golden. I might have retconned them to be tuck-in shirts with a belt like TNG, but otherwise, no need for unecessary detail.

I like the Discovery version of the colourful uniforms better.

agreed. I am not a fan of the Kelvin movies and I HATE the JJ-Prise, but they did a fantastic job with the uniforms. They look exactly like what the TOS uniforms might have looked like had it been shot in 4K.

I loved Ryan Church’s design, i only wish that had been translated to film. For some reason the changes they made when translated to a 3 dimensional cgi model ruined the concept. Not sure who wanted those changes JJ, or if ILM did them.

I had less of a problem with the design itself as I did with how radically different it was from the TOS Enterprise. I mean just because something is old doesn’t mean you throw it away. But the bridge? That I seriously couldn’t stand.

The Star Trek Beyond uniforms were excellent; like so much else, the ST09 uniforms were off, resembling baseball jerseys.

I did like the Beyond uniforms, but the collar was a little funky (but I did like it). My ideal would be the TNG uniforms, withou tthe black top or sleeves: a single color top, and a black color. I like the shape of it, and that it’s tucked into a belt.

The thing that bothered me about the original uniforms (and this followed through to the JJ movie) was that the top is just shapeless– it hangs like a t-shirt, and with the vibrant colors it makes them look like they’re wearing pajamas. Fitted tops, tight like TNG S1 or otherwise, don’t work.

Which is another strike on DSC: you’d think after season 1 of TNG, they’d have learned that those extremely tight fitting tops don’t look good.

Oh God…. I missed that. Had to go back and look at the clip to be sure. Good grief…. For the love of God WHY???????

I’m flabbergasted as well, ML. My level of interest has plummeted. Everything leads back to Khan, he is the Darth Vader of Trek.

Love it!

So, has Mr. Mount been working on his monologuing skills? He’s gonna need them for log entries, and of course, the intro.

I’m sure he has been.

Anson does a really good podcast called The Well, so I think his voiceover skills are at the top of their game.

it truly is an excellent podcast.

Loving the uniforms. Surprised about the younger versions of Uhura and Chapel.

Thank Kahless they did away with those weird Discovery collars. Just never needed to be there. And I also have a feeling now all the Discovery uniforms will have just suddenly disappeared completely for these uniforms, but I’m ready to be proven wrong (but REALLY hope I’m not ;)).

Yep and even Discovery crew themselves no longer wear them in the 32nd century.

Those uniforms never seemed practical and so many of those wearing them seemed very uncomfortable to the point that their movements looked awkward.

I’ve got cosplay with the blue DSC uniforms. It’s actually one of the most comfortable ones I have.
Well, except for my Saru cosplay, the boots are murder.

I always said they’d update the uniforms for SNW and I’m glad they have. For the sake of continuity I’d be happy to still see a few Discovery uniforms from time to time. I never actually disliked the actual outfit I was just disappointed with the way they attempted to visually reboot the franchise in season one but the idea of multiple uniforms being in use has been there from very early in Star Trek.

I don’t mind seeing the DIS uniforms either, just as long as they are no longer the main ones going forward.

Agreed

The uniforms are way better than the disco enterprise uniforms. The collars on those were superfluous and too busy

The collars were less of an issue than the “too much bling” factor on the sides and shoulders.

They keep saying it’s filmed in Toronto. It’s filmed in Mississauga. The ‘sauga never gets any love……….

“Perky ‘Canada’ Has Own Laws, Government”

Haha poor Mississauga! Remember the audience is not only the US, but also a global one. When I lived down in the States, almost everyone knew Toronto but nobody knew about Etobicoke which is where I was from so of course I would always say I was from Toronto.
Pretty cool that CBS built that studio out by the 401 and Dixie – I will have to drive by there sometime to check it out.

I’ve been waiting for a USS Mississauga or a Mississauga-class ship.

C’mon Lower Decks show the fam up at CBS Stages Mississauga some love!

Is Missiassauga a suburb of Toronto, or a completely separate town in its vicinity?

Distinct separate city but is attached to Toronto separated by “Etobicoke Creek”

I didn’t even know that and I live in Ottawa. We call all that Toronto too :D

Mississauga is a separate city, adjacent but in the County of Peel.

It includes Toronto Pearson International Airport just to be extra confusing.

Toronto was amalgamated in the 90s to be one huge city such that a lot of towns (Etobicoke included) were rolled in. When people refer to the Greater Toronto Area or GTA, adjacent municipalities, Mississauga, and all of Peel, would be included.

Mississauga used to be the butt of running jokes as Canada’s 4th largest city that was really suburbia and the land of car dealerships.

Now, the ‘sauga has fallen to sixth in population but looks urban. It has astonishing tall modern towers and the car dealerships are lobbying for zoning protection from things like movie and television studios.

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It includes Toronto Pearson International Airport just to be extra confusing.

I mean, no more confusing that DCA (which is in Arlington) or SFO (which is owned by the City of San Francisco but is physically in Burlingame).

I live in Skokie which is so close to Chicago I can be there in less than 10 minutes. Anyone outside my area I just say I’m from Chicago which is known worldwide

Mississauga has more than ten times the population of Skokie and is the sixth largest city in Canada.

It’s not quite the same thing.

It’s a suburb. It’s exactly the same thing. Mississauga isn’t known worldwide, Toronto is.

It still doesn’t look that urban (I live in the GTA, too).

I actually don’t live in the GTA, and never have for more than a month here or there for a project.

So it’s not loyalty…more just frustration that we’re expected to know about Santa Barbara or San Diego or Brooklyn or the Bronx, but it would be too much to suggest that it might be the same for Mississauga.

To me that’s a little like people from Orange County whining that they get lumped in with Los Angeles. The fact is Orange County is part of the LA area just as Mississauga is a part of the greater Toronto area. So deal with it.

Super excited! glad to see legacy characters, but not totally surprised. Looking forward to it!

Thanks. Just had to throw my jacket in my lap…🚀

Laurie called it.

Dr. M’Benga! Yeah!

Pretty cool.

M’Benga made a good impression on me during the two episodes he was in; I’m very happy that they’re adding his character.

They really need more Asian characters, though. Asians are like a third of Earth’s population, so on a human-heavy ship, there should be lots.

(No, I’m not Asian. It’s just that I can count. :-D)

Gene Roddenberry had tentative plans to spin-off a hospital show with Dr. M’Benga as the lead. That’s why they gave him so much to do. Too bad that show never happened, sounds like it would have been a cool concept for a 60’s show.

Ah, interesting! I didn’t know that. I’ve read that Booker Bradshaw was asked to play doctors frequently and was rather bored with that, so maybe it’s good the spin-off didn’t happen. :-)

The 60’s and and 70’s was full of hospital shows in the US. Setting one in space wouldn’t be so Surprising. I think the UK had a sci-fi show like that. Got canceled I think.

I’m not sure how the actress playing La’an identifies, but her father is of Asian descent.

Yes, but one out of all those characters is not one-third…

Is it too much that they actually cast a Sikh, or even a non-Sikh Punjabi, actor to play a descendent of Khan Noonian Singh?

Agreed on Asian characters. And Southeast Asian.

I recall being kind of against the idea of Olusanmokun playing M’Benga principally because the actor is about a decade older than the guy who originated the role and he’s playing a version of said character that is almost a decade younger than when we last saw him. That ships sailed now though with this announcement and to be honest I no longer care, I’m just really exited to learn more about M’Benga.

Inconsistensies like that are just opportunities to tell a cool story.
Maybe M’genga encountered some strange energies that rejuvenated him? Not like that’s never happened on Star Trek :D

To be fair I was only basing this argument on the actors actual age when he played M’Benga but in my opinion he did look older than 27 so I guess I can just ignore it. You never know though, they could factor it into that story. For all we know it might not even be that M’Benga but an older relative although the marketing certainly seems to be stating that they are one and the same.

It’s a tv show. They picked the best actor for the roll. Think of TOS as a rough draft of ST.

It’s kind of cool that they recast BOTH Majel characters.

Now, I’m waiting for Lwaxana Troi to time travel back in time and meet Nurse Chapel and Number One/Una..

And the voice of the computer.

Well, then. They’re bringing in quite a few more legacy characters than I’d expected. I was thinking maybe Yeoman Colt or some other such characters from “The Cage”, but Uhura? M’Benga? Chapel? Also someone named Noonien-Singh, and we all know the connection there…

I regret feeling so ambivalent. If I didn’t have my own personal history reaching back decades experiencing these characters and the others we already know (most especially Spock), I’d probably be super-excited. As it is, I can’t help but feel like this show will feel like an interpretation of the “real” thing (even if a lot of these versions will likely be far more fleshed-out than the incarnations we see in TOS and the other older productions, Spock excepted). But if I were a newcomer to the franchise, I’m sure I’d be over the moon right now.

I’m afraid they’re going to ruin Spock. Avika Goldman wants to use the emotional Spock we saw in “The Cage,” and that will totally destroy the meaning of the character.

Spock was emotional in “The Cage” because Number One was the emotionless character back then. When the second pilot was written, that lack of emotion was transferred to Spock. The human-Vulcan hybrid who was determined to act completely Vulcan no matter what is now going to be playing with emotions? That’s NOT who Spock is!

Also, Ethan Peck’s ears look ridiculous. They need to get a better prosthetic maker to re-do his ears ASAP.

So much fake melodrama.

What a mean thing to say. What did I ever do to you?

Yea, that was uncalled for. Mods need to step in on that person — lot’s of personal snarky comments like that from them lately.

You have a legitimate opinion. If someone disagrees then they should tell you why.

Oh, give it a rest.

Nothing at all, and I wasn’t saying anything mean. I was agreeing with you. There will likely be a lot of fake melodrama involving Spock since they’re basing this on the overly emotional version of the character from The Cage. We even saw that in season two of Discovery. Sorry if my comment somehow seemed mean, but it was actually meant to agree with you.

I misunderstood your comment; I thought you meant my concern about their approach to Spock was melodramatic! Sorry for the confusion.

Wait, what? I don’t understand what I said that was unpleasant. I was agreeing with Corylea. There will likely be a lot of fake melodrama involving Spock since they’re basing this on the overly emotional version of the character from The Cage. We even saw that in season two of Discovery. So I fail to see how my agreeing with a comment is mean, unpleasant or cause for a warning.

LOL! Nice move. Still time to use the same apology to Brennon in the Prodigy thread. He might have “misunderstood” you too when you said the exact same thing to him ;))

I don’t know what that response refers to.

OK, so noted. But this has all been taken entirely out of context. I know she was voicing concerns, and I was agreeing with her. Anyway, I’m just going to walk away now, perplexed.

You have a record on this board of calling members melodramatic or odd and you are perplexed if they take that as an insult? I don’t have an issue with your snarkiness but your hypocrisy and pretended innocence is a little hard to take serious.

I have no idea who you are, odradek, so your opinion of me and my supposed “record” doesn’t matter in the slightest.

I think he looks a lot like Nimoy in Where No Man Has Gone Before. Not quite the look Spock finally ended up with.

The hairstyle, yes, and I assume that’s deliberate, though I wish they hadn’t done it. The ears, no; the ears are just bad.

I’m with you on this. Supposedly, this takes place after the events in Discovery.. the Spock from the Cage has already progressed beyond that stage. You could see that in Discovery. Doesn’t mean he can’t struggle with his human side still. I’m holding out judgement but Akiva’s comments along with little things like his hairstyle in this trailer, make me wonder if they’re trying to make him regress. That, or perhaps they are going further back than the events of Discovery.. I’m just not sure. Either way, I just have concerns that they’re not honoring what has been portrayed before the same way they did that on Discovery. I would love to be wrong and hope that I am.

Remember this is Akiva Goldsman we are talking about the guy who wrote Batman and Robin. So I think a little trepidation goes a long way with him.

Even when he won the Oscar, I couldn’t get past that he was the writer on those two Batman movies… because of those I groaned when it was announced he was coming over to Trek.

His Involvement with Star Trek Discovery doesn’t help his standing very much either.

Yeah. I’m happy for them to flesh out Uhura and Chapel and M’Benga however they want, because those characters weren’t very well developed during TOS. But we KNOW who Spock is! They really need to honor the TOS portrayal of his character. Leonard Nimoy’s acting was good enough to show us that Spock DID have emotions, but Mr. Nimoy was so very good at being subtle that they were only hinted at, and the audience had to pay attention to see them. I would hate to see Mr. Nimoy’s excellent work undone.

Mr. Nimoy worked very hard — not just on his acting, but with lots of behind-the-scenes memos — to keep Spock IN character. I doubt Mr. Peck has the clout to force the producers to keep Spock in character, even assuming he wants to.

In some ways they already have. Spock’s story in Discovery is not well weaved into the Spock we know. The biggest, to me, is how they try to supplant Kirk with Burnham as being the impetus for his journey forward. Is their room for both? Maybe.. but it really devalues Spock’s friendship and growth as a character to retread ground already told.

I agree; I didn’t care for their trying to make Burnham be the most important thing in Spock’s development. She’s already saved the universe; she can leave Spock alone. :-)

Right. I don’t mind that Burnham was a lost sister of Spock’s that we have never heard of before. But what I do mind is that Kirk never knew of her if she was THAT important to Spock. It just ring true to me.

As I said MANY times, everyone should know who Burnham was and her history in Starfleet, at least if you were IN Starfleet at the time, being both the first mutineer and supposedly started the Klingon war on top of it. She would be infamous at this point.

I agree from the perspective she started the Klingon war. But that doesn’t bother me nearly as much as how an entire division of StarFleet (section 31) was completely lost a mere 80+ years later.

We could go on and on with all the problems with the Burnham character. And you are correct in your assessment here too. One of my many issues is the fact that Spock actually says there’s never been a mutiny when his own adopted sister was known to have lead one. I know there are liberties to be taken with this sort of thing but when a major line of dialogue openly contradicts what you do in your “prequel” then you have a problem. And as we have all seen, there is a laundry list of problems.

Really?! The same Kirk who didn’t even know that his First Officer’s father was the Vulcan ambassador?

(Which, truth be told, was some pretty poor writing on the part of the usually awesome D.C. Fontana, who should’ve understood better than anyone that storytelling logic shouldn’t be sacrificed for a cheap, melodramatic hook before the opening credits.)

Whatever the real-world reasons for Spock’s behavior in “The Cage,” the performance nevertheless has been filmed canon for going on sixty years now, not only as an unaired pilot but as a two part, Hugo-winning episode. I don’t know what rationale they’ll come up with for exploring Spock’s more emotional side, but have no objections to it on principle if it’s done well.

Which is, of course, a big ‘if.’ Mount said it himself: SNW is a real high-wire act, and whatever they do some fans will be unhappy. But I can say that I thought Ethan Peck did a very credible job with Spock on Discovery, all things considered. With the rare exception of an Arlene Martel or Mark Leonard, many of the actors portraying Vulcans have been just terrible. Peck was far better than most, including (at least for my money) Zack Quinto.

That was an excellent post, Blondie-Wan. You summed up my feelings pretty exactly, there. I too feel ambivalent, and as you suggested, perhaps it’s just because my own decades-long relationship with the franchise is coloring everything coming now for me as simply a flashier remake of what’s come before. And the fact DSC has disappointed me so much. I’ll give this a chance, though.

I’m a little disappointed it looks like we aren’t getting Colt. 3 legacy characters does feel like a bit much. Especially when the one that fist the best wasn’t even among them! (Scotty)

I’m curious as to who is going to be the Chief Engineer.

That has always been an important character on Trek starships.

Not on Discovery. For a show that focuses on science and engineering there is a very odd discomfort with the idea of showing the engine room.

On the other hand, there’s been a semi-tradition on Trek series to only confirm the chief engineer some ways into the first season. Perhaps there’s someone more to come.

But Star Trek Discovery is weird in that they seem to have NO senior staff. We have yet to see the CMO (unless what’s her name is is) or a Chief Engineer. When the captain gets his staff together it’s the show characters and no department heads. That was always weird. But then, Star Trek Discovery has decided that “sense” (among other things) was something they didn’t seem to care about.

I’m guessing Hemmer or Ortega at the moment.

Except in TNG prior to LaForge taking over as Chief Engineer.

UHURA and CHAPEL ARE BACK!!!!!!!!

OMG, crazy! Most people assumed that was Uhura but I didn’t expect Chapel at ALL!! And even M’Benga is there who I admit I utterly forgot about as a character until my grand rewatch of TOS earlier this year! So welcome aboard brotha! This is pretty amazing! I was already excited about the show but now much more hyped for it!

No one should kid themselves thinking we weren’t going to get more TOS characters on this show. All these new shows are basically fan service for the old ones lol. It was 100% guaranteed just like we are getting more TNG and VOY characters on the other shows. I couldn’t be more thrilled about it. I haven’t looked any other place yet but I’m guessing the news is blowing up everywhere.

Kirk will show up in the second season

Or sooner maybe. Ethan Peck made some cryptic comments about Spock’s established relationships with characters being explored in SNW.

I fully expected that. Can’t wait to read all the angry comments. :)

OOOF, I don’t know. Kirk is a hard one to pull off. Pine has way more power over his character IMHO than Quinto has over Spock. But then again CBS and Paramount are merged now so I guess anything can happen.

Like a few folks I called Uhura. Really surprised by the others. I never would have guessed they would bring back a fairly minor character like M’Benga.

Yeah I was pretty certain that was Uhura too. As far as Chapel, it’s funny how I never even considered she would be on this show, but yeah nothing stops it either (and not being played by the same actress helps ;)).

As for M’Benga, as said, I honestly completely forgot who he was until recently and I been watching the show since the late 70s lol. But that’s probably why they brought him in, he has a ‘name’ to the hardcore fans (VERY hardcored ;)) but was just in two episodes so they can literally do anything they want with him, like Pike himself basically. It’s smart to make him the head doctor on the show although it may be a Culber situation and he’s not the CMO himself, but kind of is. ;)

Don’t ask me which, but I think M’Benga got some love in a few novels.

Yes! I found him in some novels too and didn’t know who he was. I recognized him in TOS afterwards.

I don’t think him being the CMO is a good idea. It raises some questions. None are good for M’Benga. I brought them up in my initial post which should be below…

I was also one of those that called Uhura. I didn’t get Chapel though, I’d guessed Colt for that particular actress and whilst I conceded there was a possibility of M’Benga I was against that casting at the time because this actor is a lot older than the guy who played him in TOS was at the time.

Honestly I didn’t see this coming. They could have gone with all new characters (aside from Pike, Spock and Number One) but that’s already basically happening on Picard, Discovery, Lower Desks, and soon Prodigy, so I was blown away by all these legacy characters who I honestly have wanted to know more about. Along with this being more episodic Trek (which I loved about the old shows) and the high production value (which I love about the new shows). My anticipation level is at a fever pitch now. If we get a teaser trailer anytime soon I’m going burst lol

My personal preference was to have Scotty be the only legacy character. To me he makes the most sense. If he was already on board under whoever was the actual Chief then he gets promoted when Kirk takes over it fits with his odd love of the big E. He would have spent years working on her and then to finally be responsible…. It just fits better than anyone. Even Chapel.

M’Benga, Uhura and Chapel all served with Pike before? I know nothing contradicted that but it sure seemed like only Spock had any attachment to him in the Menagerie. Maybe those other 3 were secretly helping Spock take Pike to Talos offscreen…

I don’t remember Uhura or Chapel playing a large role in the Menagerie. Have to go back and look sometime.

Unless this is set before the events of Discovery, this is a few years after The Cage.

discovery season 1 takes place in 2257 the cage takes place in 2264 and the first 2 episodes of discovery take place in 2256 so there is only a year between the cage and discovery and from what has been siad before this picks up were season 2 of discovery leaves off which is 2258

The Cage was 13 years before The Menagerie according to dialogue, and The Menagerie was in 2265 or 2266. That puts The Cage at 2252 or 2253. If Discovery Season 2 is 2258 as you say, that is five or six years later.

nope the cage took place in 2254 that has been extablished as canon even the canon discovery novels say as much so does everyones favorite resource memory alpha says 2254
and only the final 2 part episode of discovery season 2 takes place in 2258 the rest of the season 2 takes place in 2257 like most of season 1 except the first 2 episodes which take place in 2256
and the menagerie two part tos episode takes place in 2267

Novels are not canon. Canon by definition is what is depicted on screen.

Where are you getting that The Menagerie (in the middle of Season 1) was set in 2267?

Where are you getting that there was a one-year time jump between Through The Valley Of Shadows and Such Sweet Sorrow? Or do you mean the final few minutes (where Pike, Spock and Una say the Discovery was destroyed) was a year later? Even that is debatable, since that means they were still being debriefed about those events a year later.

they state the years in thew show with the stardates

also cbs viacom and the creators of the shows have siad the discovery and picard novels and comics are canon tie ins and they had to delay the picard comic so it it was accurate to the show since it was a last minute decision to have la forge survive the destruction of utopia planetia in the show
the reason is they are using the books and comics as canon tie-ins is the same as disney uses thier star wars novels,comics and games as canon tie-ins to give back stories to characters and events from the movies and shows

Yes I know when the show takes place. I just don’t recall any significant Pike/Uhura interaction.

This is why I come to this forum. To be corrected on mistakes I never made. It’s fun.

I was just pointing out that a few years have passed since the Talos IV incident. Plenty of time for Uhura or Chapel to have come aboard the Enterprise while Pike was still Captain.

The post mentions The Menagerie (Pike in wheelchair, Commodore Mendez etc) — not The Cage.

Uhura and Sulu (in xenobiology not as pilot) were on board before Kirk arrived. So it’s canon that they serves with Pike, but not as to when they joined the crew.

That has never been said onscreen, no.

Nope. Nichelle Nichols did not appear in either “The Cage” (the first pilot) or “Where No Man Has Gone Before” (the second pilot.) Her first appearance was in “The Corbomite Maneuver.” So it wasn’t canon that she served with Pike until SNW put her there.

Sulu was in WNMHGB but was not in “The Cage,” so it’s also not canon that he served with Pike. And Sulu wasn’t a xenobiologist; he reports himself as being in Astro Sciences in WNMHGB.

I’m not saying that they COULDN’T have been on Pike’s ship; I was responding to TG47’s saying that it’s CANON that they WERE. It is not canon that they were … at least, it wasn’t until SNW came along. :-)

These won’t be the only original characters we see. Sulu or someone similar will probably show up at some point, even if they don’t become series regulars. I don’t think this braintrust running the show can help themselves. To me, Scotty seems the most logical as we get closer to the time Kirk takes over. I’d bet real money that this series ends with the transition to Kirk, and we get him.

Well Scotty is the oldest and has served the longest so he makes the most sense. I hope if he shows up they adhere to the canon of the career he had prior to the Enterprise established in Relics.

My thoughts exactly. A Lt Scott on the Enterprise who reports to the Chief Engineer works perfectly. And flows best with what we know of the character. I was kinda hoping they find a way to get him in but with 3 other legacy characters I now think it will be overkill,

But still hoping the show works.

We were specifically responding to the above comment “Uhura and Sulu (in xenobiology not as pilot) were on board before Kirk arrived.” even though no canon stories ever said they were.

I suppose it’s true that Sulu could have been there and I can’t refute canon. I just grew up assuming that just like Leonard Nimoy was the only actor that came over from the original pilot, Spock was the only crew member from Pike’s command to stay under Kirk’s command.

Uhura could have been on a different shift in WNMHB and SNW is after The Cage.
I think she was actually on the Enterprise under Cage in the novel Enterprise.

Yes, she COULD have been on the ship; I was replying to TG47’s statement that it’s CANON that she was on the ship. It isn’t. Or at least, it wasn’t until SNW came along. :-)

That’s the beauty of prequels….now it is! ;D

I have a disturbing doubt. the presence of Uhura in this period of time gives space to the love story with Spock. it’s a possibility that scares me!

Uh. No. No way. Let’s leave that in the Kelvin Universe
HOWEVER they could have some origin story regarding Chapel developing her crush on Spock…

Chapel is supposed to be engaged, so her crush on Spock before “What Are Little Girls Made Of” is kinda strange to begin with, unless she’s polyamorous.

I don’t see the conflict, actually. I think it could set up some interesting love triangle kind of thing. Could be just an attraction that is never consummated or really acted upon, but palpable and conflicting for her (to me, that’s the most interesting, and most logical. I don’t see Spock intentionally violating someone’s relationship), or they disregard anything already established and have it be some sort of romance, even if she is canonically married prior to this show airing.

+1

She did try to flirt with him in several episodes of TOS, and Goldsman’s saying that they could include relationships that were only hinted at during TOS makes me think that may be where they’re headed.

I never considered that but ouch I hope not. An officer so should not be dating a cadet. So illogical.

She’s still only a cadet in SNW so it doesn’t necessarily follow that she would be get the Enterprise when she graduates Starfleet Academy but she likely would aspire to get back there. Now if SNW goes multiple seasons like Discovery then they’ll have to cross that bridge and if she remains on the show then she would realistically have to be assigned to the ship but then again she might only be on one season of the show for all we know. Interestingly Kurtzman brought up the Starfleet Academy project when being interviewed by Wil Wheaton for Star Trek day and he reiterated that this is a concept that they remain excited about. For all we know this might be being developed as another TOS prequel show and Uhura could transfer onto that series.

All that could be true but I have a feeling they aren’t thinking that hard about it. My guess is Uhura will just stay on the ship through the end. If so, she and Spock will be the Kolbe Bryant of Starfleet and their entire career will be on one ship (OK, technically two ;)).

uhura is a cadet in strange new worlds so she is either 3rd or 4th year much like how tilly was serving on the discovery as a cadet

I would think it would be more like Nog being a cadet and serving on DS9. Which I thought was a bit weird that he would be there for very long as he still has his studies to deal with.

Just like Chekov played a role on season 1 of TOS. 😉

Will Spock have Ponn Farr on Strange New Worlds? Will Pike help him deal with: Una, Uhurah and Chapel? Are there other choices?

Will Spock have a relationship be with M’Benga that is sort of “straight” as an alternative to the humor of his relationship with McCoy? Or just nothing special?

IIRC there was a bit of flirtation between Spock and Una in one of the Short Treks so maybe something will come out of that

Chapel doesn’t make an appearance in “The Menagerie” at all. Uhura actually has a fair amount of screen time by the standards of the character, but there’s little in the episode to suggest that she has any personal connection to its events.

Crew on a ship of that size would rotate in and out, and there would be multiple shifts. Ops would likely have crew cross train, so it would be possible any given crew member could be serving anywhere on a large ship, depending on circumstances.

And that is another reason why I feel like too many legacy characters could be a bit of a continuity problem.

Wish there was a teaser trailer. Yet with these streaming shows they don’t release trailers until 6-8 weeks before release start date. Wonder if they’ll make minor design changes to the Discoprise Enterprise.

going by a produxction crews shirt they gave the enterprise tmp refit pylons and might have moded the nacelles a bit but the rest looks relitivly the same

Yeah the biggest disappointment. THIS was the trailer everyone was hoping to see. But knowing Paramount, they will probably drop one 2 days later or something just to throw people off. ;)

Is there some in universe explanation for why the Discoprise becomes the actual Enterprise of Shatner Kirk, or its just because its modern day and they like to do a modern take. It would be hilarious if the 60s design was the first refit.

they have visually updated the 60’s designs and they used the tmp refit/1701-a as a reference for the basis for the visual update while keeping certian elements to the 60’s design in it

Yeah. Say what you will about the Discoprise, it is orders of magnitude better than the Kelvinprise which just looks utterly ridiculous. Both of them.

Agreed. I still prefer Matt Jeffries’ original, but can easily live the Disco interpretation of it. The broad strokes are mostly fine; it’s the lighting and texturing of the model on Discovery that I had a problem with. Hopefully, as with the uniforms (and, it appears, the bridge lighting) SNW will take a different approach.

I think the notion that the look of Star Trek was part of canon was thrown out the window the second Discovery aired. Canon had always honored the look of TOS up until then. Some say it never was, but if that was the case, why was Archer on a faithful looking Defiant? Why did Scotty stand on an accurate TOS Bridge in TNG? Why was DS9 so faithful in Trials and Tribulations? I get the need to update the look, but I do think they aren’t faithful enough. The sets look great, including the Enterprise Bridge. I appreciate the effort they made to pay homage to the TOS design, but I also think they went to far. The design of the model Enterprise in Discovery was baffling to me in the liberties they took to make it look different that they didn’t have to. I think they could have done better.

*Should read “I don’t think they are faithful enough.” sorry… typo

I totally agree. I get this isn’t 1960’s and you can’t make sets out of cardboard and jellybeans and ships are CGI, etc… But you can be more faithful to the iconic TOS design than they are being. But I will say they did a great job with the bridge. The exterior of the ship (esp the nacelles and the slanted pylons) not so much.

Wish it wasn’t geolocked! As usual,all the Trek stuff is just for the US. Oh well,might check it out one day,lol.

Thanks Matt,will try that. Sometimes they work,sometimes they don’t. Great that you post a few pics from these though. Thanks for that too!

I was hoping to see a trailer but the cast intro was just as good. We not only saw some great legacy and new characters but we got a first peek at the new uniforms (I am sure many will be happy they got rid of those collars) and a look at the slightly revised bridge. Can’t wait to take a closer look when they release a video we can pause haha.
This was definitely worth checking out on Star Trek Day and I hope they can give us a premiere date soon.

well i don’t think the cgi vfx are finished yet the show just finished filming a month or two ago
they explained that all the computer monitor displays on the sets are live and react to the cast tapping and pressing on the screens

I am so, so, so, SO happy they got rid of those strange collars. There were so many ‘what were they THINKING???’ ideas they did in Discovery first season that is now thankfully being fazed out between both shows, especially DIS being throwing a thousand years into the future and all.

Like many (or everybody ;)) I was hoping for a trailer too, but we’ll live. We are getting a lot in general on all the shows, so it’s fine. I haven’t really went back and looked at the SNW sets yet since I’m still watching but can’t wait to hear all the analysis over the tiniest bit of minutiae we come to know for decades! ;)

Oh wow!! Very different from what I’d thought it would be… Especially the uniforms. Uhura and Chapel… Didn’t see that one coming either. nevertheless, very exciting.

Especially their haircut. Very strange (new world) to see Uhura which such short hair.

An Aenar! That’s awesome!

The most awesome part about that being that this time they’re using an actor who is actually blind. From a representation standpoint, that’s honestly great.

That said, I wish they weren’t bringing back all these legacy characters with new performers. Honestly, I wish they just had a totally different ship and a crew we’ve never met before in some other era. But oh well. I’m sure the cast will be great and all.

I’m fine with it all if they truly forge ahead and don’t keep trying to recreate TOS. A little dipping in to characters we know and love can be ok, but coming from this group of creatives, some of the character choices in this are concerning to me… not because they are there, but because the people behind Discovery have, so often, delved into Trek’s past at the expense of propelling the show forward. Trying to be reverent is a fine line. I hope I’m wrong.

I agree with you on these new announcements, but exploring Pike’s era is a part of Trek lore that I believe is warranted, coupled with Mount’s performance of the character. He was the best part of Discovery so far, and I do want to see more. If he can bring what he brought to Star Trek in Discovery, and they build off of that, then I remain hopeful.

Honestly, I’m in the camp that Akiva Goldsman as the driving force behind this series may be the biggest problem with being full on optimistic about this. I’m not her to bash Akiva.. I just think he’s over reliant on the past of Star Trek in the wrong way.

OMG, wow that IS cool! I didn’t catch that. I just thought he was an odd looking Andorian. LOVE to see more and more Enterprise canon making it onto the shows. I don’t love prequels but that is the one cool thing about them, that, if done right, it bridges aliens and old story lines more. In this case, a new prequel building on the previous prequel.

He might be an Aenar (sorry the spelling may be wrong) who decided he wanted to see the outside world.

Well, experience the outside world, anyway.

LOL!

Haha yes so true and I forgot that they are blind.

I noticed that and didn’t comment on it. I HOPE they know he’s not blue! But my main deal with the Andorrans is that their antenna move with their emotional state like they did on Enterprise. That was the best classic alien upgrade I have ever seen!

The actor Bruce Horath is one of a very few legally blind actors. He is completely blind in one eye and has very limited vision in the other.

More, his blindness was caused by a childhood cancer that clouds the visible portion of the eye like the Aenar were depicted in Enterprise.

So, this seems like very fortuitous and intentional casting of an Aenar to represent people with visual limitations in-universe.

I would really hope to see the animatronics back in the antenna too. I’m trying to recall though if that was as much a thing for the Aenar though. Their antenna were different than Andorians and serves different purposes.

I don’t remember if their antennae showed emotions, but they definitely moved around when they were reading people’s minds.

Man, Anson Mount is HANDSOME, Ohh Myyy! Exciting that we get to see young Uhura, how cool for that actress to be stepping into such an iconic role!
Awesome that it appears that they’ve hired a blind actor to play a blind character – can imagine that that will be really empowering and inspirational for a lot of people out there.
And very glad to hear that it’ll be more episodic in nature – hopefully in the same vein as The Mandalorian was episodic in that each episode featured a unique chapter in the journey that can be enjoyed on it’s own, but also connected to a larger story and always keeping it simple and character driven. Would love to see that type of approach here, and mixed with this cast I’m sure we’ll all be very happy with the results. LLAP

 Jess Bush is Nurse Christine Chapel!!!!
Celia Rose Gooding is Cadet Nyota Uhura!!!!
Babs Olusanmokun is Dr. M’Benga!!!!
Transporter room looks good.
ANDORIAN ON THE SHIP!!

WARP SPEED!!!!

I AM ALSO EXCITED!!!

Same!!!

It’s going to be fun to have TOS characters on this show and TNG era characters on the others again. And then there is Discovery. ;)

Once they confirmed Uhura was showing up my excitement level jumped even higher than it was! Chapel was just the extra icing needed.

It’s an aenar played by a blind actor!

Do I really gotta be the one to point out how annoying it is when writers shoehorn in connections to future stories as nostalgia bait? Noonien Singh, really?? And young Uhura too? For crying out loud, not every character in a show has to be connected to the shows we’ve already seen. This means, what, we get exactly 2 new characters in this entire show? I’m so sick of this… Despite all its claims to the contrary, Star Trek in its current iteration has become a conservative, regressive show. Instead of taking chances, it falls back on the familiar like every other media franchise in production today. Discovery is rooted in nostalgia, Picard even more so. Lower Decks is entirely referential. These writers know nothing except how to take established characters and change them into their own hollow interpretations. I was so excited for SNW to show us a new crew of the Enterprise, and literally we’re getting exactly what we had before or someone with some completely unnecessary connection to Khan, because everything in Star Trek has to connect back to Khan somehow, it was the movie that everyone loved so it’s gotta be about Khan. God I hate our modern media diet… Rant over 🖖🏼

Dude, I’m so with you on this. This franchise and its creatives cannot get past Khan. Every single movie from TNG forward can’t seem to get away from the villain motivated by revenge format.. or directly trying to recreate the character, which is damn near impossible… so now we see this character name and have to wonder… why? And not wondering why in an intriguing way.. why in a “WTF does that mean” way. The obsession with Khan and recreating Star Trek II is the one thing they really need to get away from.

Rant appreciated, actually. All good points. I really wish I had any faith at all in the writing teams at Kurtzman & Co.

Fully understand the frustration. I am with you to a point. I agree with SH constantly hardening back to what Trek has done before. Unfortunately they do it because it’s usually safe with most fans. Most fans love the call backs. Just look at this board when they brought in Talos and the Guardian of Forever. Many ate it up. I knew they would have a call back and at least one legacy character. But was hoping for fewer.

And the Singh thing…. Good grief. I really hope there is no relation.

Okay, now I officially miss the strange DSC uniform collar. Their necks look naked without it :-)

Concerning the characters: I only guessed Uhura right.

M’Benga? Chapel? Those I had thought to be Clark Terrell and Carol Marcus.

But instead of those TWOK characters we get… a Noonien-Singh??? La’aaaaaaaan! La’aaaaaaaaaaan!

The only huge disappointment is the name Erica Ortegas. I was so much hoping they’d call her Macha Hernandez, Tasha’s original name from an early TNG draft.

But yeah, hit it! Let’s fly…

Oh man… having Clark Terrell and Carol Marcus would have been awesome too!!!
Dr M’benga I think had to be there now.
That being said still think we should see Dr. Boyce, Lt Tyler and Colt… hope they show up..

Carol Marcus? I dunno. I don’t think everyone in Kirk’s life needs to have had to have come from the Enterprise.

Wow, never thought they’d include Dr M’benga but that is cool. I always thought he was an underrated character in TOS. Including Uhura and Chapel were unexpected but I knew these producers couldn’t help themselves to include legacy characters. They always take the easy way out. By the way is the actress playing Uhura related to Cuba Cooding Jr? It would have been fun if Rebecca Romijn had actually played the Chapel role as well, but probably too much work so it didn’t happen.

Of course not. We all knew the second SNW was announced, half of TOS will probably show up before first season is over. I joke, but…

The people making Trek today are ultimate fanboys and girls. It’s why we have everything from Q to the Guardian of Forever back (I still want them to team up like the strangest buddy cop story in history). It’s ALL coming back kids. All of it by the time they are done.

As far as the actress being related to Cuba Gooding Jr, since it hasn’t been brought up once since she was first announced, doubtful. But you know I’m usually wrong. ;)

But when is it starting? After Picard in mid/late 2022?

They didn’t say, but based on production/release schedules I would guess starting shortly after Picard in late April/early May 2022.

So I will hold out on subscribing to Paramount+ until then. SNW is the only Star Trek show I am looking forward to, so I will wait until then to subscribe. I will watch the other shows then, but I can be patient with those.

Same here, VZX. I’m in no hurry to sign up for yet another service as it is.

knowing picard comes out on either febuary 17th or 24th 2022 depending on if discovery season 4 has 13 or 14 episodes in season 4
that would put strange new worlds coming out either april 28th 2022 or may 5th 2022 since we know picard will have 10 episodes

I’d say 22.2.22 (or 2.22.22) would be the perfect date.
As long as it’s not February the 29th… :-P

:D Would be nice date!

But right after Picard S2, would make it to first half of 2022, would be great!
Nevertheless its like 3/4 of a year :o

Anyone knowing, if they are already working on scripts for a S2? Maybe it would give them enough time, to take enough care on the details and logic.

What about Dr. Boyce who was seen in The Cage? Or Dr. Piper in Where no man has gone before?
(A bit offtopic, but interesting: in the german dubbed version, which was notorious for getting things wrong, they made it right and presented Dr. Piper as “replacement for Dr. McCoy” ;-) Also with the eugenic wars which were placed in the 2090s and almost with the time period of TOS: “it’s the year 2200”)

This is years after The Cage, so Boyce could be retired or even dead. But we still might see him. At the very least they will probably reference him in some ways. Dr. Piper is the complete opposite, he didn’t show up until years later, so I don’t it matters much.

Even though its wrong, it would actually make a lot more sense if the Eugenic wars took place in the 2090s. Or at least be the direct cause of WW 3.

At the very least they will probably reference him in some ways. 

Maybe again in the german dubbed version “I’m the replacement for Dr. Boyce”. ;-)
(No, not really… it’s not 1972 anymore, when german viewers didn’t have any knowledge about the original version.)

Oh I see what you mean now. But as said it was dubbed wrong. And of course, they may just ignore stuff. Everyone is trying to piece together every little thing, but this is the group that skipped over the part about visiting Talos IV warrants the death penalty or pretends Sybok never even existed (or maybe I’m wrong and he shows up next season ;)).

Other words, they know most won’t care about every obscure piece of minutiae, especially something from a single episode that didn’t have any real story basis.

The uniforms can never alligne anyway. The Cage and WNMHGB had the same uniforms. Doesn’t matter. That’s production history.

I’m more concerned with SNW being called the “maiden voyages” of the NCC-1701. There was Robert April before Pike and that is canon due to TAS…

Discovery had Robert April as one of Saru’s inspiration’s for commanding a ship.

The German dubbed version :-) Oh my, we got Sol Drive instead of Warp Drive back then and Gary Seven was called Felix Sevenrock because of a ZDF guy named Siebenrock :-) They only broadcast half of the TOS episodes in the 70s with the other half to arrive in the 80s… Amok Time was depicted as a dream and Patterns of Force premiered in the late 90s…

Funniest thing about the German dubbing is Picard’s voice. First three and a half seasons and in the movies he had that old man’s voice that would NOW perfectly fit for older PIC Picard (the great voice actor has sadly passed though). Seasons 5-7 had that spot-on younger Stewart’s voice…

Piper was only in WNMHGB because DeForrest Kelley, who Roddenberry wanted, wasn’t available to play the ship’s doctor. So the character became a historical footnote. But it was the actor’s connection to Trek which landed him a similar role on “Battlestar Galactica” a dozen years later, which I’m sure was much appreciated.

Interesting Cast, but i feel a bit disappointed because Kurtzman ignored the Wish to hire Jeffrey Combs as Dr. Boyce.

Nah, I’m glad that it’s not Jeffrey Combs as Boyce as a regular CMO.

But I am hoping that Shran is still alive and that we’ll see him.

The Aenar population was so small in the 22nd century and Shran both married into the community and lived with them for a period. In a community of few thousand everyone knows everyone.

So, it would be actually unexpected that Hemmer didn’t know Shran. More, Shran would not be able to resist keeping tabs on an Aenar serving on a ship named Enterprise.

I the guy playing M”Benga the charcter we know from TOS or that character’s father? Because beside not looking anything like him, regarding his age he has to be his father. Dr M”Benga would be in his early twenties.

The last scene of the series finale:

(INT.) Enterprise bridge

The turbolift doors open and all hands look to see who is entering the bridge.

Enter the new boy: CAPTAIN JAMES T. KIRK, confident and cocky along with his friend, the new ship’s physician DR LEONARD MCCOY. Striding to the captain’s chair as if he has been on this ship his whole life, KIRK sits, leans back, and surveys his new crew one by one. He is ready to begin his new adventure.

KIRK: Helmsman, take us out. Half thrusters.

SULU: Aye, sir.

SULU turns back to the helm and begins piloting the ship. The rest of the bridge crew turns to look at the viewscreen as the structure of the drydock passes from view and is replaced by a field of stars.

SULU: Captain, we have cleared spacedock. What is our heading, sir?

KIRK: (Smiling) Helmsman’s discretion. Let’s see where destiny takes us.

MCCOY: (Mutters sarcastically) Oh boy, this is gonna be good.

SULU: Course plotted, sir.

KIRK: Ahead, Warp Factor five.

SULU: Warp Factor five, aye.

KIRK: Engage!

The stars on the viewscreen rush by ever faster until there is a flash of white, and…

FADE OUT

This is what I love about message boards, the show hasn’t started yet and fans are already thinking how the last episode will play out lol. And sure, I can see something like that playing out. But I have a feeling we may see both McCoy and Sulu before then, even if they are not on the ship.

Where is Yeoman Colt? She should have been in the show, perhaps at a higher rank.

But this cast looks great! This is the only Star Trek show I am looking forward to.

Agreed… I’d have her start low and work up the ranks. Also fun to have a noncommissioned officer on the crew, plus aren’t there unresolved feelings between her and Pike?!?

Not on Pike’s side.

So whats Dr. M’benga do to get demoted from CMO so that McCoy can take over?

Perhaps he was never CMO. After all we already have Boyce and Bryce.

Why does he have to get demoted? Maybe he’s just transferred after Pike retires and McCoy takes over at the request of the new Captain?

Absolutely. The length of time that senior officers stay with the hero ships on Star Trek shows is really unusual.

I expect that Mbenga is CMO and off doing other things at a new posting during TOS. The acting when he covers for McCoy is an acting role during the absence of the officer who holds that role rather than an acting rank.

My thought is M’Benga goes to Vulcan for a tour, having learned about the Vulcan Science Academy from Spock.

He may not be the CMO, just on staff like Culber is in Discovery.

All very good points, could’ve went to Vulcan, could just be a doctor on staff, after all they just said he was playing dr. M’benga, mayyyyybe there’s a smalllll chance that Boyce will be a recurring character playing by our favorite recurring character actor…

As a TOS fan, this preview gave me goosebumps throughout. I love that they are honouring TOS characters both well known and less so. So looking forward to seeing an actual trailer.

Why can they not stay away from trying to tie everything in and revisit stuff? This is the show I’m most looking forward to. As excited as I am to see a character like Uhura.. is she really necessary? Are they painting the franchise into a corner? But the single most puzzling and potentially maddening? The Khan reference. On one hand, If the Noonien-Singh name is an Easter egg, that kind of lack of imagination is frustrating to see. If it’s a relative, that’s downright concerning at this early stage. I really hope they don’t screw this up. After Discovery and Picard, I was hoping this would be the Trek that would quench my thirst. There is a lot to like about this (Anson Mount as Pike, the episodic format) but this seems less fresh and new than It should be after the cast announcement. God, I hope I’m wrong.

Maybe Uhura is a recurring character or is assigned to a another ship that Enterprise encounters on its way. I agree with you about having too many legacy characters but I also think we should be patient and see if the writers/producers surprise us. Also now that Q is officially part of Kurtzmans Trek universe I believe he/it can be the grand deus ex machina that sets everything (all the continuity problems etc….) to as it was at the very end of all these series.

I’d probably feel different if the creative braintrust hadn’t let me down before…. if this were truly brand new. I’m hoping I’m wrong, and I guess my point is I don’t have a warm and fuzzy that they’re forging ahead. That’s all. I will be open minded as I watch this new series.. I promise.

A main character being named “Noonien-Singh” is too big of a thing to be an easter egg. A descendant is really all she can be. With maybe .001% Augment DNA in her. Enough that she doesn’t display any abilities and can serve in the fleet. But it wouldn’t stop people from showing her resentment. That’s my take anyways.

Interesting to see that the uniforms have been given a few tweaks since what we saw on DISCOVERY.

But just as I prefer to view ‘The Cage’ pilot episode as being an ‘alternate universe’ storyline of different characters and elements to the main TOS show crew to allow for the differences (I happily skip the ‘The Menagerie’ two-parter during a rewatch to allow for this, by the way)….I’m also going to look on STRANGE NEW WORLDS as being an ‘alternate universe’ show to TOS too.

Looking forward to some good new characters and stories hopefully!

Well, if you think so. But I think they did an awesome job with those uniforms. The zipper jackets actually have some sort of collar. And with at least three sets of uniforms, it’s easy to imagine the Cage uniforms being there or having been there as well…

Is this the first year ever that we may get Trek year round, from October to October, perhaps with small breaks in between?

-Prodigy in October
-Discovery in November
-Picard in February
-Strange New Worlds in May
-Lower Decks in August

Pretty exciting.

Yeah seems that way. We may get a few weeks break between whenever SNW airs and a new season of LDS but it may not be that long at all.

And its a bit surprising Prodigy and Discovery will be airing the same time as each other. They kept saying they didn’t want any of the shows to overlap but I’m not complaining. ;)

I love the idea of having at least 1 Trek show airing at every point of the year.

José Tyler must have gotten killed somewhere along the way. Or transferred. It will be interesting to see if any of the other Cage characters (Tyler, Boyce, Colt) are referenced in this new show.

Continuity question now that we have Nurse Chapel. I’m completely convinced there is going to be a Roger Corby episode somewhere in this series. There is much to elucidate since she is in a relationship with her professor and by today’s standards, this would be inappropriate and perhaps a warning sign for them both.

So my question is: would an episode set during SNW be set after they were engaged? After they broke up? How does that fit with the backstory in TOS that she too was doing research with him?

This was the best part of the whole Trek Day show. Our friends around the country were watching the same thing were were but once the character reveal happened. My phone exploded with text messages. My wife was happiest that Uhura was back on board. So…. doers this mean we will see more TOS characters in the various episodes? Lt Kirk on the Farragut? Scotty on one of his other ships? Sulu in the Astrophysics Dept? Maybe even Dr Boyce serving Pike a chilled martini.. the possibilities are endless.

I’m so in for this! Everything looks on point, and Mount is an excellent captain.

TBH the one TOS character I was most expecting to see was Scott. He’s the oldest and most experienced in TOS, and even at that point the old girl was at least as much his as Kirk’s.

In the penultimate episode we’ll see the death of the chief engineer, and in the last scene of the finale, a ship will arrive with new personell, and the the transporter chief will read out the name, “It’s our new chief engineer, Captain. Name? Looks like…(beat) Mr… S…C…(looks up at Pike)…O.T.T…

Cut to black. Cliffhanger.

The more I think about it, the more I think I’d prefer a wholly original crew for Pike and to explore how they grew and left. In some ways, a fresh Kirk coming aboard and taking over Pike’s last crew kind of diminishes him a bit. Kind of like a new manager taking over a massively successful football team.

I wouldn’t mind Scott being there, or Bones in a lower medical role, as they are older characters (age wise). But the younger ones being there before Kirk? We largely got to see Picard choose his team in Encounter at. Farpoint.

They are adding unnecessary questions to those that already exist. Existing: why does Commander Chin-Riley not become Captain? Why does M’Benga not become CMO? Why does the name Noonien-Singh not ring a bell even before Space Seed (they recognise it quick enough in that episode)?

Yep, I know I’m griping before I’ve watched a scene, but this was the show I was looking forward too. I wanted Boyce, Colt, and Tyler.

The only point I do get is M’Benga not becoming CMO… The other issues I do not share at all…

Cpt. Chin-Riley may either die at some point or get another command. Since we don’t see her on TOS, that isn’t an issue at all yet.

La’an bearing that infamous name may be adressed directly. Khan could have had many offsprings. Maybe she’s even an augment created from his DNA. That may be illegal but that could be the whole plot point. Who knows? It offers great opportunities.

Boyce probably has retired, Colt is an outdated role model and Tyler… well, he may be there, but not as a main character. There were many recurring characters on TOS…Probably didn’t do him because there already has been a Tyler on DSC…

M’Benga could have transfered to Vulcan for a tour, maybe further his studies at Vulcan Science Academy while Mc’Coy elsewhere becomes a hot shot MD. Plus Kirk could have requested McCoy from his past command.

Given that Mbenga was a specialist physician who McCoy asked to come back to the Enterprise to cover for him during an absence, it actually makes sense that he had previously served on the ship.

He could already be the CMO, and comes back to act. Bringing back former department heads for an assignment is often better than promoting someone on an acting basis in cases where specialized expertise or experience are crucial.

There’s no reason expect that he would have stayed on as CMO with a new captain. As a Vulcan specialist, he would want to be somewhere with more than one Vulcan patient in the long run, like the medical base that has been envisaged in the TOS back door pilot.

I’m coming around to the logic around this one.

I wonder if this series takes place after the events of the Cage. Boyce has retired, M’Benga will be “acting Chief Medical Officer” while they await the arrival of new personel. I said it jokingly in another comment but the finale could see new crewmembers arrive, including Chief Engineer Scott and CMO McCoy.

Give us something big to look forward to.

They already said the show takes place after the events of Discovery season 2. It would basically box them in if they started before that season or some crazy time jump later.

Yeah there are a lot of possibilities they could do.

Chin-Riley (not loving that name so far, but fine) could just be a Riker situation and get her own ship by the end of the series. Or yes, just die, but I think she will just get an opportunity to start fresh somewhere else. Or here is a CRAZY idea, maybe she just leaves Starfleet and does something else? I know seeing so many characters through the years where being part of Starfleet is basically like being part of a religion is almost sacrilege to leave, but yeah in the real world some people would just leave and do other things. Not exactly sexy I know but yeah that is actually possible (but no I don’t EVER see it happening lol).

Or this being Star Trek get lost in another universe or time period. ;)

M’Benga just may decide he doesn’t WANT to be CMO. I mean not everyone in life is concerned about moving up to the next rank or position. Maybe he just likes doing what he does and more concerned about his research instead of running sick bay on his own. It could just be that simple but it’s not exactly hard to find a reason for a character not being promoted.

La’an Noonien Singh now that’s not very simple and launches a huge can of worms lol. You can’t really get around that too much. IF Space Seed was just an obscure episode the way the episodes M’Benga showed up in TOS, then maybe they can just retcon whatever they wanted and no one cares. I know A Private Little War is famous, but it’s pretty self contained in general. But in this case they have to somehow tow the line that she is somehow related to Khan (and obviously she is or what would be the point) and yet surprised by who Khan is when he shows up in 10 years or whenever.

Honestly this is one of those things where you wonder WHY do they do this to themselves? Why give yourself this kind of extra work that is not needed? But we also know these people are real fanboys and girls and they clearly want a way to bring up Khan even in the vaguest ways possible so I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. Many are wondering will she be an augment herself, but I don’t see how that could be possible seeing how much Starfleet is so against genetic engineering. Up through the 24th century they are literally still jailing people who dabbles in it, but again we’ll see.

I didn’t really think about it that much because I was so excited for Uhura and Chapel coming back but yeah this one will be interesting for sure.

But most of these are not huge deals. The reality is with the exception of Spock NONE of these characters are developed much, even Uhura and Chapel. Their entire backgrounds are based on a few lines they said on the show mostly. The others were literally in just 1 or 2 episodes, so yeah. Like they done in every show they will probably just ignore or retcon a few things but overall they can do basically what they want for most of them.

I hope they bring in Boyce, Colt, and Tyler.. if only as minor characters on another shift.
Colt for sure, she could have been a Tilly but as a non-commissioned officer. Maybe have an arc where Starfleet ends up not being her thing yet she endures because of her family legacy or something and finds happiness on a colony.
Also I am pretty sure The Cage set it up where she had unresolved issues with Pike!

Uhura, Chapel, M’Benga wow!
This looks great, what a thrill. I can’t stop smiling.

Excited and fascinated of the choice to bring back the Aenar and cast an actor who is blind in the role.

I must admit it’s the original characters more than the legacy ones that I’m looking forward to. Having more than half the cast be legacy characters seems overkill.

I’m also looking forward to see if any of the other bridge crew that we saw on the Enterprise in Discovery’s S2 finale are brought back.

Yes me too TG47!

In a weird way seeing an Aenar aboard got me the most excited lol. Because we still don’t know THAT much about them and it will be really fun to see how they are developed. When they appeared on Enterprise, they were really a fascinating species. Related to Andorians but have also evolved differently from them. The fact some have telepathic powers also made them more distinct.

It never occurred to me we would even see them again because they have been completely ignored in both the Kelvin movies and Discovery. That’s the beauty of Star Trek, eventually everything comes back again. It may take years, even decades lol, but it can happen.

I’m still looking for the day to see the Xindi show up again, maybe on this show or even on one of the 24th century shows or Discovery!

Agreed, having an aenar and developing the character grows the universe while having too many legacy characters just makes the universe smaller. I think M’ress or Arex would have worked better instead of Noonien-Singh and Uhura.

I really like having the opportunity to get to know new characters, but perhaps a fresh take on the episodic format will allow these characters the chance to lead the occasional episode.

Uhura and Chapel were mostly background in TOS. While Uhura got more line and time in the movies, it was actually TAS where she was given the opportunity to lead and shine.

So, depending on how they’re used it could work, especially as 10 episode seasons don’t give much opportunity to build out a large number of new characters. The creators may have felt that starting with characters that are somewhat but not deeply known would avoid the first season drag that Star Trek series often suffer from.

Interesting tidbit about Una Chin-Riley having some connection to another “legacy character”… If she was born a Riley married to a Chin she may actually have some relations to Kevin Riley from TOS. His parents were killed by Kodos on the Tarsus colony so maybe she’s his sister and an orphan, too.

La’an Noonien-Singh is also pretty exciting. Maybe she’s an offspring of Khan or of those 22nd century augments on ENT. Maybe she’s on a covert operation for Section 31. They have a thing for augments.

Also excited about Hemmer being played by an actual blind actor. The Aenar are blind, too, so this is yet another stance of authentic representation. The sad aspect: the actor has got the MUCH better name for a Star Trek character. I wish it was Horak played by Bruce Hemmer :-)

And as far as puns go: Horak is almost as near to Hulk as Bruce Hemmer is to Bruce Banner ;-)

I hope she’s not a direct offspring of Khan. She would have to be over 300 yrs old and even for an augment that is OLD. And also augments should not be serving in Starfleet.

How long before the hate starts pouring into this show? I can already see the dripping.

Why would I want to “hate” THAT show? It’s the closest thing to classic Trek one could ever hope for. Minor canon-violations, should they occur, don’t bother me at all.

I also do not “hate” DSC, especially after they have arrived in the future to be explored and fleshed out. The two issues I had with DSC were tech issues and the Klingon redesign…and some grizzly stuff in S1…

LDS is a mixed bag for me as my mind doesn’t “get” animated comedy. It’s so frantic and superficial. But I’m beginning to like the characters for what they are.

PIC is a bit of an issue, both stylistically and content-wise. The writing of S1 was just all over the place and the TV-MA aspects felt forced and overdone. The cursing admiral, Icheb, drinking smoking, taking drugs…It didn’t feel very Trek-ish.
S2 quite obviously tries to get around those issues by placing it in an alternate timeline and in our present. That way, they can get down and dirty without contaminating the primeverse any further with their TV-MA shenanigans…

But SNW and PROD are the shows I’m looking forward to the most. The one brings back classic Trek, the other one appeals to my inner child… where is the pew-pew-pew-button :-)

JJ Trek is the best Classic Trek in my opinion. You haven’t seen anything of this show yet. This reminds me of when the first trailer of Picard aired.

This +1
If it’s action/adventure on the final frontier where inperfect people confront challenges – I am all in.
Especially love when a starship is something special, not a dime a dozen, where they are on their own, and response from Starfleet Command is days away let alone reinforcements and any screw up on their part and half the quadrent ends up learning to speak Klingonese.
I think shows with perfect people who play holodeck in hotels when they aren’t taking marching orders or having whatever they did made obsolete by reset buttons deserve some hard defendable scorn for being generic forgetable snoozefests.

I don’t think SNW will be perfect and frankly I wouldn’t be too shocked to see some of the same issues that plague both DIS and PIC seeing its by the same people. BUT I do think they have at least learned from their mistakes they made in DIS a lot more, at least in terms of how they deal with the prequel setting. Again, don’t expect it to be perfect…but better.

And yes DIS is just a better show being in the 32nd century. It should’ve been a post-Nemsis show from the start, but they wanted the TOS tie ins. Now they have the best of both worlds. SNW can REALLY tie in to TOS as much as they want basically and it won’t feel so forced while DIS can just be its own thing and actually create new canon the way TNG did when it premiered. And if you still hate that show it’s VERY easy to ignore it now lol. For me however, I’m just happy to finally see a new time period explored and going forward again.

That’s what is fun about all these shows though, they really can be their own thing on one hand but dig into nostalgia or canon when they want, especially all the 24th century shows. Between the three of those, they have an embarrassment of riches of taking whatever they want from the TNG era in terms of characters and storylines but STILL be their own thing.

And since none of them take place at the same time as each other they can put their own stamp on whatever they want (well SNW still can’t as much but that’s OK too now).

Uniforms are such an improvement

Hoping this is good, but very disapointed there seems to be no Dr. Boyce. His relationship with Pike was well established and memorable.

I’m pumped for this, now we need a premier date.

nice…looking forward to this one.

Surprised at how excited I am for this given TOS is well, it’s a product of its time, but Pike, Spock and Una were such highlights of Discovery season 2 that it’ll be a joy seeing them again.

Hopefully there’s a nice juicy lost era plot.

Could the new series’ timeline might be happening before Pike and company met the crew of Discovery? Or do we know for sure this will follow after Discovery disappeared?

I just don’t see it taking place before season 2 of Discovery. They would have to do a time jump at some point and they would have to adhere to stuff like the DIscovery uniforms (not the crew but Starfleet in general). I’m pretty sure its after Discovery jumps through the wormhole.

And we know Uhura or Chapel wasn’t on the ship then.

La’aaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The costumes look great — and Peck looks so much better as Spock here (love the hair). I kind of hoped they wouldn’t have red for security, as per the first twoTOS pilots – but it looks fine.

The sets look brighter/cleaner than the Disco versions, from the little shown here –which is great.