Paramount+ Bringing Star Trek Back To Comic-Con With Hall H Panel Promising “Reveals And Surprises”

Hear, hear, I agree 🙂👍💯. That’s funny because how you described what might happen with Picard and Beverly rediscovering their feelings through the season, I thought of the exact same thing earlier. We’re thinking like two peas in a pod, Tiger2 😄! Originally, when Picard first started, I did think that the show would end with him dying.

But now that Terry Matalas wants to give everyone a grand send off, I don’t see him dying now. It makes more sense, logically, to give Picard a happy ending, finally, after all of the darkness he’s been through in his life. I think the real reason why we got Laris in the first place is because Sir Patrick wanted Picard to fall in love with a woman who looks like his wife does. Take away the ears and there is a slight resemblance between Orla Brady and Sir Patrick Stewart’s wife. I think he was trying to pull off on screen what William Shatner did in his Shatnerverse novels and that was to make his real wife a character in the Star Trek Universe.

And Sir Patrick’s did wind up showing up on screen, I know that, singing there on stage at that bar in Picard season 2. But I think he wanted his wife to have a much bigger part than that and I think that’s where Laris came from because the resemblance between Sir Patrick’s wife and Orla Brady is really quite remarkable. And the reason why I say that he wanted to do on screen what William Shatner did in his novels is because Teilani, who winds up becoming Captain Kirk’s wife in the Shatnerverse novels, (which came out back in the ’90s.) and who gives him another son named Joseph Kirk, looked exactly like William Shatner ‘s late wife did, Nerine. And Sir Patrick would know this since he and William Shatner are friends and he’s probably read all 10 of the Shatnerverse novels from him because William Shatner probably gave him advance copies of them to read.

That’s why I think Laris was created solely because Sir Patrick wanted to include his wife into the show. Whether it’s true or not, who knows, right? If someone should go to a convention with Sir Patrick at it maybe they could ask him about it and maybe he might tell them if it’s true or not but for now we can perchance to dream, right 🙂? Live long and prosper, Tiger2 🖖.

Yes, the Sir Patrick and Laris thing might be far fetched but remember Laris was married in season 1 to Zhaban because it was Michael Chabon’s story. Sir Patrick had a say but not as much as like he did in season 2. If you need proof of that then look no further than the whole story behind Picard’s mother. That whole thing came from Sir Patrick wanting to add pathos and drama to Picard.

Now the reason why Laris and Picard didn’t get together in season 1 is because Laris was only in it for a couple of episodes. Then there was a time jump in season 2 and suddenly Picard is starting to realize that he has feelings for Laris and Zhaban had a heart attack. Like I said, I believe Sir Patrick pushed for the Laris thing because of how much Orla Brady looks like his wife and also because she was really easy to work with according to him. But where does that easiness come from?

Probably because she looks so much like his wife so he can relax around her. It’s all just speculation here. I don’t have any proof. It’s just some good natured fun here, that’s all. As for your trepidation for season 3, I fully understand.

Trust me, I grew up back then too so TNG was my crew also growing up. I just don’t put expectations anymore on anything or anyone after seeing Into Darkness and Beyond. I realize it’s all just stories. It’s up to us which ones we like or don’t like.

Paramount doesn’t really care what one person thinks because behind that one person is a 100 or a 1,000 people who do like it. Case in point Paul Wesley as Captain Kirk. I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt and saying that he was good. Especially since he only had 3 days to prepare for that episode before they shot it.

There’s an article from Entertainment Weekly with Paul Wesley and he talks about how he was hired for season 2 but he had no idea at all about being in the season 1 finale until 3 days before they had to shoot it. They had no intention of telling anyone that Captain Kirk was going to be in this episode until we watched and saw him in it. It was gonna be a mind-melting moment for us or it was until the paparazzi found out about him and who he was playing so then they had to change their plans. Mr.Wesley did say that the James T. Kirk we see in season 2 is actually more like the character we know in the Prime Timeline.

The only reason why Captain Kirk was different in the finale is because it was an alternate timeline. And this all comes straight from Paul Wesley himself in this Entertainment Weekly article that came out the other day. So I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt but I know their are fans out there that won’t do that and that’s fine, that’s their choice. But these are all just stories and none of us own these stories.

Paramount does. Gene Roddenberry sold the franchise to them so it’s up to them what they want to do with the characters. It’s their sandbox now, not Gene Roddenberry’s, not Rod Roddenberry’s, and not us Trekkies either. So that’s why I’m excited for season 3 instead of hesitant.

Now if I find out that Brent Spiner is the bad guy again, then I’ll be mad but what can I do about it? I don’t own it so it’s not gonna matter if I complain and if I complain but other people love it then that just adds more division within the Trek fandom and I don’t want to do that, you know. So I come up with speculation about what might be coming to keep me excited and my interest piqued. Now I might be wrong, like I was about the Romulans, but I still love to dream about Star Trek and what might be to come and that will never stop.

I have too much imagination to not run out of it 🙂. I’m an idealist and I’m a dreamer and that will never change. Live long and prosper, Tiger2 🖖

Yes, I do think that that Laris will be killed off myself because Orla Brady said that in her post on Instagram that episode 2 was her last episode of Picard and that it was time for her to put away her ears. I did have TOS on TV when I was growing up in the ’90s for a little bit. Eventually, it got moved to like 1:00 am in the morning where I lived in Connecticut at the time and I was still in school so I definitely couldn’t stay up to watch it. But TNG, DS9, and VOY were my Trek growing up but I adore TOS more than anything because that’s where it all began.

I was in middle school when I first became a full fledged Trekkie so I am younger than you but not by much 🙂. I can tell you stories about my Trek beginnings but it would take forever because I’m like Stephen King, I’m very verbose and it takes me forever to get to the point 🙂. But when I get there, I do prove that it was worth the wait 😄. The funny thing when you talk about TNG and it’s beginnings, I do like some of those episodes.

Not all because there are some bad episodes but I do like some of them. Season 3 of TNG was good but that’s because Michael Pillar came on. Maurice Hurley did not have a background of working on sci fi shows in Hollywood. He was mainly known for working on detective shows.

That’s why that Dixon Hill episode of TNG was so good or it was for me anyways! I wish they did a couple more like that instead of the Sherlock Holmes ones but that’s just me. I hope you enjoyed your rewatch of “Quality Of Mercy”. I watched “Strange New World” from Enterprise’s first season just a little while ago, the one that had everybody hallucinating in the cave.

I love that episode! When T’Pol starts speaking in Vulcan, I swear to God she’s telling Trip to go “f’ off” 😄🤣😂😆! I don’t have proof of it because I don’t know what she’s saying but that’s my interpretation of it anyways 😄. Live long and prosper, Tiger2 🖖.

Yeah, the reason they’re bringing Laris back is probably for closure. She probably gets caught in the crossfire by whoever is gunning for Crusher. I think somebody’s gunning for Crusher and she’s gonna go to Jean-Luc for help and there’s gonna be an attack at the chateau and Laris will get caught in the crossfire or that’s my theory for now anyways. I liked Laris and Tallin a lot myself. I thought they were good characters. Orla Brady is a very good actress. I wish she would stay in Star Trek but it’s not meant to be, I guess. I don’t understand why half of the things that do happen on Picard happen myself. I’m expecting to tune into see Worf this season and when he returns, he’ll probably have had a heart attack or something because that’s how dark the show is. And Brent Spiner didn’t do to much to assuage my feelings because he said a few weeks ago that Picard season 3 is very different from the last two. He didn’t say that it felt like being back on TNG. He said season 3 is very different. So what’s that mean? I just hope that there’s not like all this death in order to get to Picard’s wedding because then what would be the point of the wedding if everybody but Crusher and Picard are dead, except for Riker too because he’s got that luck of his that’s just like Captain Kirk’s luck. I hope not, but, like I said before, it’s a story and all we can do is either watch it or don’t watch it. I love Star Trek too much to not watch it, know what I’m sayin’? That’s funny that you mentioned watching TOS and TNG together on weeknights because I watched the same thing up here in Connecticut. They were together for quite awhile up here in the ’90s. But we would have double Star Trek up here because the station Star Trek was on would air TOS and TNG weeknights after TNG was in syndication which that happened in TNG’s fifth season. And then on the weekends, I would get a brand new episode of DS9 first paired with a brand new episode of TNG afterwards. And I got this for a little bit until TNG ended. TOS wasn’t played on the station up here at any specific time for too long because there’s only 79 episodes so they would burn through them quick. But TNG’s a different story. When it went into syndication, it had a hundred episodes to it. So that stayed on consistently until it went off the air. When it ended, my Star Trek shows to watch went down to 2 and I didn’t really watch Voyager back then. I didn’t see like Neelix at all. I loved Chakotay and Captain Janeway and Paris. But Neelix really bothered me and so didn’t Tuvok. Now I like Tuvok since rewatching Voyager but I still don’t like Neelix. He serves absolutely no purpose. Every time they went somewhere, it was always “Well, the Talaxians never got out this far, Captain” or “I’m not really too sure about this planet because I’ve never been here”. He’s their guide to the Delta Quadrant and yet he knows nothing. The character just seems redundant to me. I didn’t know that about CBS.com airing Star Trek back in the days but that’s probably because I always had one of the Star Trek shows to watch on TV and then, when cable became available to me, I had TOS again every day. Oh, and I used to tape the shows too so I could rewatch them whenever I wanted to. Then I started buying individual episodes at like Sam Goody and Best Buy and FYE. So I’ve had Star Trek consistently to watch. I’ve got a complete Star Trek media library up until Discovery season 1. None of the other shows have enticed me to want to buy them, except for Strange New Worlds. That one I will definitely add to my collection since all 10 episodes were fantastic 💖! And I’ve got all of the movies, even Into Darkness but I refuse to buy Beyond. And I’ve gotta buy the original animated series again too. So, as you can see, I’ve always had some Star Trek show to watch since the ’90s. I learned a valuable lesson when Enterprise went off the air and that is that Paramount can decide to stop making Star Trek shows at anytime so it’s probably best for me to have my own little Star Trek library so that I can watch them myself whenever I want 🙂. Minefield is a 👍 great episode from Enterprise! One of my favorites too. All the Romulan episodes from any one… Read more »

I enjoy talking to you too, Tiger2. We respect each other because we understand where we’re coming from since we both lived through Star Trek’s original Golden Age back in the ’90s. We can have nice normal conversations and share our mutual love for Star Trek without it turning into a fight and that’s refreshing. Most of the people that reply back to me just want to argue to argue. They can’t just have a nice time talking about Star Trek like you and I do. I love the Enterprise, wholeheartedly 💖! I fell in love with the TOS Enterprise when I was 12 and then I fell in love with the Enterprise-E too 💖. I love all of the Enterprises but those are my top two, with TOS Enterprise first, of course 🙂. My love has never changed for Star Trek. It just grows because I see everywhere how much love and joy it brings to everybody and it just makes my heart swell. I totally agree with you too, Tiger2, about wanting a decent story in Picard season 3. I am right there with you. I also agree about Brent Spiner. I did like A.I. Soong in season 1 but, last season, that character, that other Soong, was just so bad. The least said about him the better. As for him possibly playing Data again, I’m not sure about that happening. We could see him, maybe 🤞, in a flashback. I think we’re gonna see Tasha Yar as well next season, briefly. It wouldn’t be a proper sendoff without the whole crew there and that’s why I even think we’ll see Wesley one more time in the series finale. I do think that if Brent Spiner’s not Data though, then he could be B-4. I know a real lot of people did not like that character but Data’s program was downloaded into him and I know he shut down because it overloaded him but maybe they could bring him back somehow? Or even Lore? Maddox took Lore from the Daystrom Institute and nobody knows what he did with him. I know Maddox said he was destroyed but there’s no telling if he was telling the truth or not so it’s possible that Lore could come back. We’ll see 🙂. Also, when I mentioned the characters I liked on Voyager, I forgot to mention Seven. See, now that I own it, I like all of the characters, except for Neelix. I love seeing how the characters grow over the years, like Torres and Seven. When I was a teenager, I did like Seven but that was because I had a crush on her. As an adult, I’ve watched her story on Voyager and I love how she wanted to regain her humanity and the struggle that that brought to her. I just love it, man. The same goes for B’Elanna as well. She always struggled with her Klingon side and she fought so hard to maintain a balance between being human and being Klingon and I admired that about her. Yes, I love the Doctor as 🙂. I wouldn’t be signed up for Robert Picardo’s YouTube channel if I didn’t like the Doctor. There are very few characters that I don’t like in Star Trek. Even though I don’t like Neelix, I can still watch the episodes that have him as a big part in it and enjoy them, like the episode with the Ferengi from the Alpha Quadrant in it. I think he was great in that 😊 and he was pretty funny too. I like Ethan Phillips. He’s a nice guy and he was pretty funny on this old comedy show called Benson. Him and Rene Auberjonois were both really good in that show but Robert Guillaume (he played Benson.) stole that show, of course, since he was the main character. I had a VCR myself growing up. That’s how I was able to tape the episodes and watch them over and over again when I was a kid. But once I started working, I was able to pick up the box sets. The prices weren’t too steep. What I would do when I was younger is buy the sets used at F.Y.E where people trade them in to get credit or cash. So TOS would cost $50 new but when someone traded it in, it only costed half of what it was originally, so it was $25 instead of $50. And they check the discs to make sure there’s no scratches on them so I didn’t have to worry about that . So that’s how I got my hands on the Star Trek shows over the years. But when I got my stimulus check a couple of years back, I wanted to sink it back into… Read more »

I understand, Tiger2 👍. I’ve enjoyed talking to you too. I can’t talk neither I’m watching a Remington Steele marathon with my wife. And I completely understand where your coming from about TMP.

I fall asleep myself while watching it because of how long and slow it is😄😀. Take care and live long and prosper, Tiger2 🖖

Before inserting yourself into a conversation, The River Temarc, then you should make sure that you have your facts straight. One, we weren’t “ragging” (my word, not yours.)on the quality of Picard, we were discussing Laris and how they’re gonna wrap up her storyline in season 3 and once I told Tiger2 about how Orla Brady (Laris) is only in the first two episodes, he said why even bring her back then? Then we discussed and speculated about what might happen in season 3 between Picard and Beverly Crusher since Laris is gone early in the season. And, two, the only time the quality of Picard was mentioned was at the end of our conversation where we both agreed that we like the first two seasons of TNG over the first two seasons of Picard and that’s true, Picard is a dark show to watch but it does have its audience.

But that’s just a part of the conversation that you’re chiming in on, even though you didn’t read ALL of the replies. And the second part of your comment makes no sense to me. Here’s the quote that threw me for a loop: “Stewart is a phenomenal actor, but his record as an actor is decidedly mixed”, what does that even mean? Sir Patrick has chosen some great stuff outside of Star Trek.

He likes to broaden himself rather than just staying in the same box, what’s wrong with that? He was great as Charles Xavier. He was great in Green Room with Anton Yelchin. He was great in Jeffrey back in the ’90s and Robin Hood: Men In Tights.

And he’s in numerous different animated franchises, BIG animated franchises. So I don’t understand what you mean? But, hey, to each their own, dude. As for Insurrection, well, of course he had a say in it.

He had a say in Picard’s story in ALL the movies, starting with Generations. Same thing with Brent Spiner. They both gained more creative control over their characters in the movies and that’s why all 4 movies were always focused on Picard and Data. Everybody knows that and as for Insurrection, I loved it ❤️!

I saw it about 7 or 8 times at the movies because I was working at a movie theater back then when I was 19 and I could go see any movie I wanted for free. My boss also gave me a big poster display that was in the front lobby of the theater for Insurrection and it lit up and that was so cool! I carried that sucker home on my shoulder, 12:00 am at night, about half a mile to my Mom’s house because it was so gorgeous and it was Star Trek and the Enterprise-E was on it and every day I got to wake up looking at the Enterprise-E, much like I do now. The only difference now is my wife would not let me have a big huge promotional display like the Insurrection one I had when I was 19.

Instead, I’ve got Eaglemoss models all over our house. I don’t believe in “ragging” on Star Trek, dude. I love Star Trek and have since I was 12 back in 1991 during the 25th anniversary. I try to point out the positives of the franchise, not the negatives.

Yes, there are negative aspects to Star Trek but that’s neither here nor there to me because Star Trek gets enough criticism as it is from the rest of the fandom and I’m not one who’s on that bandwagon. All Star Trek has done is bring me joy so why should I knock it?

Live long and prosper, The River Temarc 🖖

We’ll agree to disagree. I love Beverly and Gates McFadden! If they don’t get together, fine, but I don’t see any problems if they did. And I think long time fans will love it!

Agreed (to disagree). And it’s freaking hilarious how that other dude gave you a big “atta boy” on me by responding to you on this. LMFAO :-))

Agreed Tim! She’s probably in more. She was only talking about dubbing the first six episodes. I hope she is in all ten of them! :)

Yep!

I’m gonna keep my reply short, Tiger2. That does sound embarrassing. My wife doesn’t think it’s a bad story. It’s Gothic horror and it was meant to be erotic back then because erotic thrillers, like Basic Instinct, were a big deal back then.

They tried doing an erotic thriller in an almost primetime time slot. I think Gates did the best she could with the story she had. Like I said, I like Sub Rosa for two reasons. One, it’s one of the very few episodes to have a major focus on Beverly.

And two, it’s a horror story, an adult Gothic horror story and I liked it because of that. Just like I like Catspaw, What Are Little Girls Made Of?, Miri. I like the other other horror themed shows too in the franchise but I can’t remember all their names right now because there’s so many of them. But that’s why I like Sub Rosa because it’s a good horror story to me.

Just like a lot of fans like A Fistful Of Datas but I don’t because it’s basically “Spectre Of The Gun” done over again on a holodeck this time instead of a planet. Sub Rosa reminds me of like an Anne Rice story, like The Witching Hour from her. That story is about a family called the Mayfair’s and they’re witches and they have a ghostly entity connected to them called Lasher. I am a big horror fan so I really love it when they do horror in Star Trek. And I still think Sub Rosa is a good horror story for Star Trek but we can agree to disagree, right 🙂?

Live long and prosper, Tiger2 🖖

Yeah, Tiger2, I understand and hear you about Sub Rosa. I’m not here to convert anyone to it 🙂. I know a lot of people don’t like it.

But it’s the mood and the atmosphere that I like about it. It’s dark and stormy in it and the candle light 🕯️ glowing in Beverly’s cottage. The candle is supposed to represent an item that’s possessed and the entity within it is draining Dr.Crusher’s life force from her, just like he’s done to the other female members of the Howard family for years. There’s all types of possession stories in Star Trek.

I can always find something to like in even the worst episodes of Star Trek, except for Turnabout Intruder. That’s just horrible! That’s much worse to me than Sub Rosa ever could be and that’s another possession story right there. Everybody has different tastes.

Like I told you before, I do like the first and second seasons of TNG. The Big Goodbye is a great episode that I really like a lot and that’s in the first season. I like “Remember Me” from season 4 of TNG, another great Dr.Crusher episode for me, but there are people who don’t like it simply because Wesley saves the day in it. Voyager is another one that has a lot of silly episodes in it, like where Harry Kim asks Seven out on a date and he winds up getting nervous because he thinks that he’s gonna be Seven’s first sexual experience since becoming human again.

Or how about the episode with the Irish bar that winds up believing that Tom Paris is a warlock because they catch him doing “magic”? Or how about the episode that had Harry leave Voyager to live on a ship full of succubuses who were draining him of his life force, gee, sounds familiar? That sounds a lot like Sub Rosa just gender-flipped. Or how about the Enterprise episode where Trip gets pregnant?

That’s a pretty bad Star Trek story and episode right there but there are people who like it. Star Trek is different things to different people. One episode I like you might not like and vice versa and that’s what makes Star Trek so beautiful and so fun to watch and that’s what makes our fandom so great is the diverseness of it from all of the different stories that exist within it 🙂. Live long and prosper, Tiger2 🖖.

Thanks, Tiger2 🙂👍! I do love the first two seasons of TNG a lot more, waaay waaay more, than I do Picard. They have their flaws but I still love them. I also mentioned to you before that I too love Move Along Home and A Night In Sickbay.

I love Porthos period ❤️! I love watching him eat cheese. He reminds me of myself and how I am with cheese 🧀😄😆! Like I said before, I love Star Trek so I do my best to try and accept all of it, even the stuff I don’t like, because I’m a Trekkie and if I’m gonna say that then I should know what I’m talking about, right? But this doesn’t mean that I’m gonna watch an episode that I don’t like over and over again either.

I do rewatches myself and during those rewatches, that’s usually when I include the episodes I don’t like in my rewatch, like Turnabout Intruder. But that episode is just so hard to watch, man 😄, really 😂! I would much rather watch Trip get pregnant again before I rewatch Captain Kirk turn into Janice Lester again 😄! I like the Enterprise theme myself, Tiger2.

I didn’t like it at first. It wasn’t orchestral enough for me. But because I watch Enterprise all the time now on Paramount+ and the Heroes & Icons TV channel, the theme has grown on me a lot and it does symbolize exactly what the show was about. I know saying this is like treasonous to the hardcore Trekkies but my time is limited on this world because of my medical condition so that doesn’t bother me.

We can’t live for other people. We can only live for ourselves or our families 🙂. Oh, and, Tiger2, this will be my last message to you. I know you said that you didn’t want to keep posting on here yesterday but we both keep the conversation going, don’t we 🙂?

Live long and prosper, Tiger2 🖖