New Official Star Trek Logs Offer Clues About Lore, The Titan And More Ahead Of ‘Picard’ Season 3

The official Star Trek Logs account on Instagram is active again today, with a number of posts tied to the upcoming release of Star Trek: Picard season 3. For recent seasons of Discovery, Lower Decks, and Prodigy, the account was used for weekly “logs” from different characters (voiced by cast members) and set after the most recent episodes, but they are doing something different for Picard.

Due to the highly serialized nature of season 3 (likely with little or no time between episodes), there’s a whole a series of logs; each provides backstory for a character or a ship featured in season 3. They are presented in LCARS format and voiced by the USS Titan’s computer. There are 9 character logs and 3 ship logs for a total of 12.

Most cover the history of these characters and ships from their appearances in previous shows and movies, but there are also some tidbits to fill in the gaps before season 3 of Picard. We have gathered some of the highlights.

Lore and Soong update

Brent Spiner is returning in season 3 and it has been announced that Spiner is playing Lore, Data’s brother introduced in the first season of TNG. Lore was last seen in the two-part TNG episode “Descent,” and the new log gives us an update:

Lore was last seen in 2370 as the leader of a cult of former Borg drones. At that encounter, Data deactivated him for the final time.

Lore’s mind and body have since been taken to Starfleet’s Daystrom Station along with the late Altan Soong’s research.

The Daystrom Institute of Advanced Robotics in Okinawa, Japan, was featured in the first season of Picard. The Soong android B-4 was also stored at Daystrom in Japan after being disassembled.

Brent Spiner as Lore in the season seven opener, “Descent, Part 2”

The log also gives us an update on the Picard season 1 character Altan Soong (also played by Spiner), indicating the character died in the years between season 1 and season 3. Originally, Dr. Soong intended to download himself into a “golem” android, but that that was used to resurrect Jean-Luc Picard instead.

Brent Spiner as Altan Soong in season one

A character image for Spiner in season 3 was released earlier this week:

Brent Spiner in a character publicity image for Picard season 3

Here is the full Star Trek Log for Lore.


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TNG character updates

The log for Jean-Luc Picard gives a good backstory but mostly covers what has been already seen in the first two seasons of Picard. However, the logs for the other TNG characters offer some insights into what they have been up to in the time since they were last seen onscreen.

Beverly is a mystery

The log for Beverly Crusher picks up after her time as the Chief Medical Officer of the USS Enterprise-E:

She later resigned from Starfleet, undertaking private medical missions throughout the Alpha and Beta Quadrants on her personal ship, the SS Eleos.

Dr. Crusher’s current whereabouts are unknown.

Gates McFadden as Dr. Beverly Crusher

Worf gets promoted and classified

The log for Worf picks up after his time on Deep Space Nine and through the final TNG movies:

Following his brief tenure as a diplomat, Worf returned to Starfleet serving aboard the USS Enterprise 1701-E and in other assignments that resulted in his promotion to the rank of Captain. His time aboard the Enterprise-E was brief, having stepped down after the incident above Kriilar Prime.

Worf’s whereabouts since then are classified.

Michael Dorn as Worf

Geordi gets a family and big promotion

Geordi LaForge’s log offers insights into his life after being the chief engineer of Enterprise-E:

Later, La Forge received the rank of Commodore and was given a series of special assignments by Starfleet Command. His daughters Sidney and Alandra La Forge also currently serve in Starfleet.

LeVar Burton as Geordi La Forge

Riker and Troi still hold Starfleet rank

The Captain William T. Riker log includes an update following the events of the season 1 finale of Picard:

Riker returned to active duty in 2399, leading a fleet of Starfleet vessels to protect Jean-Luc Picard and the Synth home world Coppelius from Romulan attack. He continues his role in Starfleet, having most recently lent his expertise on the new Titan refit.

The Commander Deanna Troi’s log also ends with a link to Starfleet:

Troi continues to hold a rank within Starfleet should her expertise be needed.

Jonathan Frakes as William Riker

Marina Sirtis as Deanna Troi

Seven had help from two admirals

There is also a log for “Commander Seven of Nine,” indicating Seven has kept her Borg designation even in Starfleet. It was revealed in season 2 that Seven had once failed to get into Starfleet, and the new log offers insight into how she eventually was able to get a commission:

With help from Admirals Picard and Janeway, Seven received a Starfleet commission. She currently serves as First Officer on the USS Titan NCC-80102-A under the command of Captain Liam Shaw.

Jeri Ryan as Seven of Nine

Raffi has La Sirena, but the rest is only rumor

Raffi’s log starts off with “NOTE: Commander Musiker’s personal details are classified” before it goes into her character history, including what we saw in the first two seasons of Picard. The log ends with:

For years, Musiker has worked to overcome several addictions that plagued her life and Starfleet career, with the hope that she might reconnect with her son Gabe and his family.

Musiker’s current Starfleet status is classified. Rumors suggest she has left Starfleet entirely. Her present whereabouts are unknown.

There is also a log for La Sirena, which covers the ship’s history after being taken over by Seven in season two:

Following Seven of Nine’s admission to Starfleet and assignment to the USS Titan NCC-80102-A, Raffaella Musiker took command of La Sirena; however, current ship’s status and whereabouts are unknown.

Michelle Hurd as Raffi Musiker

The fates of Enterprise-E and Enterprise-F

There is also a log for the USS Enterprise, which covers all the ships with that designation. It has already been revealed that the season will include the Enterprise-F, successor to the Enterprise-E last seen in Star Trek: Nemesis. Regarding the Enterprise-E, the log ends with “Final Mission: CLASSIFIED.”

Here is what the log had to say about the Enterprise-F:

NCC-1701-F-Odyssey Class. Launched in 2386. Commanded by several captains in the past 15 years. Currently scheduled for decommissioning after the critical systems were compromised during the “the Monfette Gambit”, the rescue efforts for the Raillian refugees on Fenton IV. The Enterprise-F’s final flight will be on display during this year’s Frontier Day.

NOTE: Christopher Monfette is a writer for Picard.

USS Enterprise-F as seen in the final trailer

Enterprise-F with other Starfleet ships in the final trailer

The Titan has a storied history and some special features

The hero ship for season 3 is the USS Titan. This particular log was written by showrunner Terry Matalas and offers some more backstory about the ship and the history of the three ships of that name.  The logs introduce a new ship into Trek history, the first ship to bear the name Titan, and it has a surprising link to a Trek character introduced in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. From the log:

NCC-1777-Shangri La Class. Launched in 2290 under the Command of Captain Saavik. Known for its multiple encounters with the Klingon Empire, including the Exo-Port Takeover and Horizon colony rescue. The Titan became Starfleet’s flagship under the recommendation of Captain Sulu of the Excelsior. The Titan was instrumental in maintaining frontier stability before the Khitomer accords and the subsequent launch of the Enterprise-B.

Kirstie Alley as Saavik in Star Trek II

The second Titan (NCC-80102) is a ship first mentioned at the end of Star Trek Nemesis, and was first seen on the covers of a series of Star Trek: Titan books, and later in Star Trek: Lower Decks, under the command of Captain William T. Riker. According to the new log, the ship was pulled from service in 2398 after “suffering extensive damage.”

This leads to the USS Titan for season 3 of Picard, here is the description:

Because of Captains Saavik and Riker, the Titan’s legacy was continued with a brand new starship, one that would retain its registry, but now with the “A” designation, an honor only given to a select few starships.

NCC-80102-A. Constitution III Class, referred to in Starfleet slang as Neo-Constitution Class. This new Titan is primarily an exploratory vessel, honoring the retro design of the Constitution Class II. Launched in 2402 under the command of Captain Liam Shaw. Work began on a refit using the original Titan space frame, however, with the development of cutting-edge technology, the Titan’s design changed mid-construction and a new ship took form. As per tradition, Starfleet engineers affectionately designated it as a refit, having kept much of the original Titan’s internal components.

The Constitution III was designed to cater to a close support envelope at sub-light speeds, namely in and around densely populated solar systems, as witnessed by is overpowered impulse engines. To date, the new Titan has the largest sub-light power-to-geometry ratio in the fleet.

USS Titan in final trailer

USS Titan in final trailer

Here is the full Titan log…


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More Picard coverage to come

In the coming days look for interviews from the Hollywood premiere event with members of the cast along with showrunner Terry Matalas. We will be posting our regular recap/reviews on a weekly basis, starting with the first episode on Thursday, February 16, and each week our All Access Star Trek podcast will discuss the latest episode, starting on Friday, February 17. Our Shuttle Pod podcast team will also discuss the upcoming season. Until then, you can read our spoiler-free review of season 3, written by Mark. A. Altman.

The third and final season of Picard premieres on Thursday, Feb. 16, 2023, exclusively on Paramount+ in the U.S., and Latin America, and on February 17 Paramount+ in Europe and elsewhere, with new episodes of the 10-episode-long season available to stream weekly. It will also debut on Friday, Feb. 17 internationally on Amazon Prime Video in more than 200 countries and territories. In Canada, it airs on Bell Media’s CTV Sci-Fi Channel and streams on Crave.

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Commodore LaForge? Could that be a sly reference to the episode where Geordi is trapped on the planet with the Romulan, who he keeps calling Commodore?

“I never lie when I’ve got sand in my shoes, Commodore.”

More likely it is a reference to smash hit band The Commodores.

They had the Commodore rank in TOS

So the Enterprises are basically throwaway now, huh…great. Also the Enterprise log is not linked.

I still maintain this new Titan should have a different number instead of 80102-A.


The hero ships are now pointless. Fans who clamored for the F should remember the saying “be careful what you wish for, you may get it.” Seeing the Enterprise E would have had some emotional power to it, the F will be meaningless and will then be gone. They missed an excellent opportunity here. It’s a shame.

I feel like the Titan stuff is a bit convoluted. The callback to Saavik is great, but the “using the old spaceframe” stuff just feels like an unnecessary indulgence. And was the Excelsior the flagship until — at some point presumably after the TOS films left off — Sulu personally urged the still-in-service Titan to be made the flagship?

(I wonder how carefully vetted these logs’ texts were — I thought the claim that the launch date of the Enterprise-C was “classified” was a bit much.)

Totally agree on the Titan issue, I don’t even see the point. It’s funny but it was the exact same irs done for the Stargazer and it was basically a new ship just built out of the old one. Just say it was a new ship from the beginning. This seems to be something Matalas likes to add since it’s been done twice now.

It was hinted at that we would see more than one Enterprise. Looks like they may have been referencing the F and G, not the E and F. New Enterprise, folks!

No, we’re likely seeing the D one last time in the form of a flashback or holodeck sequence. Burton is on record as saying they spent 3 days filming on a replica of the Enterprise-D bridge set.

I don’t see the point. Why couldn’t they have just sunseted the E and introduced the F? Instead of killing off the E early, a short life on the F and already on to the G presumably for the Picard Successor Series?

Picard famously said “plenty of letters left in the alphabet” but this is getting silly.


I hope season 3 ends with the launch of the Enterprise-G. I believe the Enterprise-G was one of the original designations for the then new starship in early TNG production. What a great ship to launch the next next generation.

It was.

My theory is if there is a new ‘Next, Next Generation’ series, the showrunners want to redesign the Enterprise-G to their own specifications. They probably used the current F design in honour of the online game.


I wonder if they will take the D-saucer section (which they listed as being recovered in Picard S2) and mate it to a new Ross-class star-drive and call it the G. 🤪

That would be cool to see.

I would be so unhappy to see the -D dish again, as in gnashing my teeth just thinking of it.

Me too. I will always acknowledge that it was at least a bold design (as say compared to the incrementalist failure of the NX-01 shit design), and I have a lot of respect and love for Probert, but it is still butt-ugly — there is no getting around that.

Dude the D is my favorite ship lol. I love it so much! But I know it’s not everyone’s favorite, but I grew up with it. It was the first Star Trek model I bought as well but had so many different toy versions of it.

I even had a large LED poster in my room in college! :)

I love the swooping lines of the D.

I really don’t find many of the other ships, that many of the ship geeks feel are better, in anny way aesthetically pleasing.

I think it’s why I like the elongated ships (that Matalas clearly doesn’t). The slipstream Aventine model that Eaglemoss offered briefly is a favourite of mine.

More, to me, the demands of the physics of warp shouldn’t be giving us the kind of designs that look like they were welded together in an ocean ship dry dock in the 1970s. (Having grown up in view of a major harbour, many of these designs hit my old ugly ship buttons. My imagination naturally fills in the rust that keeps needing overcoats of paint.)

If they’re going to be mundanely mid 20th century practical, to me they may as well be the bumpy ships of the original SW. Heresy here, I know.

I hope not. That’d be lazy writing.

NCC 1701-OG

As good as the reviews have been, I remain skeptical that after viewing this season that I’m going to say, “ wow I was wrong, there was a natural and holistic reason to include lore in this season and he wasn’t shoehorned in simply because they wanted to have a role for Brent spinner”

Knowing your opinions around reading your comments, I am confident you will not come around, and will very likely actively hate this season.

As will, 99% of the commenters on this site. And anyone who disagrees with them will likely be attacked and trolled for daring to think for themselves

I think it’s going to be a good season — I usually agree with Altman, so I’m really excited now.

I didn’t like the never ending your daily marketing by Matalas on the build up, and Matalas was unproven and season two of Picard (which he worked on) I thought was the worst season of Star Trek since Enterprise season four. So I was legitimately skeptical and I’m not apologizing for those opinions — and I still never hope they never market a new Trek series like that again.

I’m glad you’re feeling optimistic, but for your own sake, go in with low expectations. You’re much more likely to enjoy it!

Never apologize for an opinion. It’s good to be skeptical with regards to this stuff. As for marketing, I have largely paid attention but can separate it from my opinion of it.

So you’re sure that nearly everyone will hate it, but that everyone will attack everyone who hates it? Talk about a silly persecution complex lol

The only people who get grief are the ones who are trash talking repeatedly, incessantly, and non-stop for attention.

I mostly agree, although I used to get some push back from you every time I talked about my issues with SNW lol. And I always said I liked the show, but I still wanted to discuss what I didn’t like which was (and still is btw) canon issues. Now all those issues are in the past, I’m just bringing up an example, mostly one of perspective. It’s not a big deal at all.

But yeah it can happen and I know you were just giving your opinion but as we all know, tone is very hard on a message board. People can feel like they are being attacked even if the other person is just debating their points in their head. So while I generally agree people can get waaaaay too triggered at times lol, which still amazes me in 2023 how much it does happen, some people are also just more sensitive than others or read things differently.

And I’m going to say something a little controversial, but we also deal with people who has mental issues too and when we’re all anonymous and know nothing about each other, we have no idea who are really talking to at the end of the day.

But some people just want to constantly argue lol. Or feel offended over everything. So for those people, it’s why I wish this board had an ignore button, NOT because I think they are evil, but it’s gets tiring dealing with these personalities when 90%of us just want to have civil and normal conversations with others, even if we disagree, without the drama, troll baiting or tedious arguing.

I just refuse to do it and I don’t.

Given Altman‘s review i’m expecting it to be a really good season.

Here’s a thought, instead of making assumptions about me, given you’ve actually seen much of the season, can you with all confidence tell me that you think Lore was needed in this season, or was he shoehorned in to give Spinner a role just like they did in Picard season two?

And despite what you think about me, I’ll have no problem saying I’m wrong on this if Lore ends up being integral to this season. An likewise, I hope you’re honest with your answer to me on this question.

By the way, if you bother to pay the attention to my posts over time you will notice many instances where I’ve said I’ve been wrong on some thing and I’ve apologize to people, and I try to discuss back-and-forth with people as well — I don’t have your habit of making negative comments but then disappearing and not following up to the responses

AlphaPredator, given you chose not to respond, I will assume that Lore/Spinner is in fact shoehorned into this season as I was suggesting might be the case. Thanks!

Omg, what is this, middle school? ;)

Let’s just let people live their lives on a Saturday and come to our own conclusions as the season unfolds. There’s no tangible validation to be found on these boards for some of the subjective details you sometimes seek it for.

AlphaPredator said he saw the first 6 eps, so either he will respond to my question, or he won’t. I’m not sure you need to have a role in this, but by all means, feel free to manufacture whatever drama you want on my comments…lol

It’s not a private chat room and you were goading someone for not getting back to you after a mere 4 hours, with a failure to respond clause.

You do you, but I just don’t think that’s a productive way to communicate here, and sometimes there are things said on these boards which are perfectly understandable as to why they don’t get responded to.

+1. Christ, the show premieres in five days. Find out then. This is a blog, not Bob’s 24-Hour-Turnaround Service.

(Thoroughly agree with the concern, though.)

Dude, you are so far off “Trek” here. :-) It was a sarcastic-humorous retort back at AlphaPredator — he and I do this all the time with each other…we are big boys and can handle it.

chill out…calm down. lol

All right, all right. I overstepped on this one.

No worries, I should have put a wink emoticon on it. Sarcasm doesn’t always come across correctly when written down.

You will probably hate it and crap on it no matter how good it is.

Based on Altman’s review, I think I am going to be very happy with this, actually.

Please don’t confuse my significant dislike of the nearly daily marketing/mini-spoiler dropping by Matalas with whether I will like this season or not.

You may dislike the 6-week promotional campaign, but the Paramount will be closely watch both the views and the net uptick in subscriptions associated with this premiere. They will also be watching the newer rating metrics that take into account the social media impact.

Matalas is doing everything to end up with the best numbers possible for this season of Picard, however it’s measured. He’s managed to get the show into just about every list of “What to watch this week” new releases for this upcoming week.

For that he gets my respect, even if it’s over the top. It’s what it will take to get another 25th century show greenlit.

Yeah no doubt if this is a big success they will probably incorrectly assume it was because of the crazy intense marketing campaign… So yeah I can see us being stuck with this approach for years, unfortunately.

Good point

I, for one, am glad there is an explanation as to why 60% of the Titan-A is made up of impulse engines. ;)

It sounds like Titan is the A-10 Warthog of Starships.

Nice analogy!

In-system close support prioritization is a significant flip from the Luna-class Titan that was a long range explorer.

Also curious for a designation as a neo-Constitution.

Matalas is on record as being a fan of the refit design. I get that, but this is way too anachronistic for its own good.

He apparently can’t take criticism of it either…

I can live with it.

The warthog analogy actually makes it more palatable.

Matalas and his crew of retro production designers had their idea of how Starfleet might go nostalgic in design. I can understand why that visual code might appeal to some older Berman-era fans, especially Americans. (It has a decidedly American aesthetic to me.)

There are however other fans like me, old and new, who like the more globally-informed/influenced design choices in the new shows being produced in the greater Toronto area. I’m glad we’re not stuck in one production design across the shows.

I really wish we could get more international design into the ships for the other live action shows. Discovery’s 32nd century ships (and production designs overall) have somehow digested some of the Space 1999 visual DNA, but that’s it.

Interesting, the Enterprise-E looks to have come to an end around 2386 (assumption based on the launch date of the F). It looks like Worf was the Captain towards the end, thus synching up with the Una McCormack novel – I do love that touch with Worf being Captain of the Enterprise, the Flagship of the Federation.

The Enterprise-F has been in service for 15 years already and is about to be decommissioned. Obviously the creators wanted to give a shout out to the STO design team by giving them the F, but if it’s being decommissioned, then a replacement is obviously being designed behind the scenes. Terry has probably planned it this way just in case there is a spinoff eg Star Trek Legacy

I really wish they hadn’t even bothered. The Odyssey-class has never been a beautiful design IMHO. And if they’re just gonna do it dirty like this, then the reasoning feels even flimsier.

I agree, never been a fan of the Odyssey class. I’m happy that they’re decommissioning it though, so we’ll hopefully get a better design. No offence though, to the original creators of the Odyssey class, it’s just not my preference.

Fan of the class or not, the name ‘Enterprise’ deserves more respect than this seems to be getting…

Well, it’s been in service for more than 15 years, which is more than double the lifespan of the Enterprise-D. For us, it’s only going to be there for about 15 seconds.

Yeah. I get that not every series can be about the Enterprise, but this? This is just [redacted] stupid. Could’ve just as easily said that the E or the F was still in service and not shown it at all, but nope, gotta drive a stake through our collective chests.

Nevermind how the Luna-class Titan was essentially cut off at the knees…

I agree with this; it sounds far too shoehorned in.

Hmm imo it would make sense if they say the E was destroyed by the Living Construct and it took them two years to build the F because of how devastating their losses was from it. They had a lot of ships to rebuild and different admirals had different priorities (ie Janeway with the Protostar class.) Which yes since it was the Enterprise taking that long is not that likely but at the same time if they had ship building crews working around the clock on a lot of different ships, it makes sense.

Continuing my thoughts, it would also serve to tie Prodigy into the larger Trek universe and into PIC as well.

It’s an appealing thought Gritizens.

More, as some of us commented around Prodigy’s finale, it would explain why Starfleet was so pressed to build cookie cutter ships for the Romulan exodus.

Even the construction of a top-line capital ship like Enterprise would be compromised by the pressures.

Yeah that was part of my thoughts too, I just didn’t get them typed out. It wouldn’t be an explanation for everything but it would be for a lot relating to ships. And the E being there makes sense because it would have been an unknown threat and if they called the Defiant out for it, then they would have likely called the Enterprise too.

Considering none of the Sovereign-class ships present at that battle was explicitly referred to as the Enterprise, as well as the fact that all of them were labeled as Sovereign or Enterprise (if I’m remembering the Trekcore and Trekmovie reviews correctly), I Wouldn’t put much stock in it.

It’s called retconning and also none of those ships were mentioned by name. The Dauntless and the Protostar were the only ones that were.

The registration number was clearly visible at one point.

TrekMovie doesn’t screencap that much, but someone in a thread did provide a link to a clip.

It would be a visual retcon to say the 1701-E wasn’t there.

With the Enterprises, I feel this is a bit like coming down on Christmas morning after a long year, and finding the box of the toy you’d been dreaming of has already been opened, and the toy’s in there, but it’s kinda scuffed up, and your parents tell you that actually the neighbors’ kids got to the tree first and had a lot of fun with your present, but you can have it now.

I just really hope there’s some good justification for not only having the -E long gone, *and* the -F on the verge of decommissioning. Otherwise — not unlike the gratuitous dead Troi-Riker kid or maybe-not-dead?-no-REALLY-dead Data from S1 — it just sort of feels like a troll (the thing you were interested in seeing all these years is actually long gone, haha, we lured you in with nostalgia but we’re going to be “edgy” and teach you your lesson… and then try to lure you back with nostalgia yet again). I say this as someone who hasn’t watched anything Trek since Picard S1 (I gave up on DISC after S1, never got around to PIC S2 for this reason and the negative word-of-mouth, but will probably catch up and give this season a try).

I will say, I’d always been baffled about the use of the STO design. I mean, the designer did a fine job, and it’s a nice incremental update on the Sovereign-class, but it’s much better suited to an online game than to anything cinematic.

I found the Odyssey-class F fairly ugly too.

I can understand why the powers that be don’t want that to be the Enterprise going forward but also don’t want to push it out of canon. That would be the real disrespect.

Like the Luna-class Titan (which has been getting hero moments in LDS), , I respect Matalas for honouring it in canon without being bound to use it as a hero ship.

Why are you guys so obsessed with ships?

Lore seems to be the biggest mystery of this show in terms of returning characters. So now that we know Starfleet basically put him back together, wouldn’t they just have reprogrammed him not to want to take over the galaxy? Maybe that explains why he’s wearing a Starfleet uniform because he actually is in Starfleet now. But Matalas also described him as a villain in the season IIRC.

I’m really fascinated to see how he’ll fit into all of this.

Wonder if Lore will turn out to be a hybrid with Data. Makes no sense becoming a Starfleet Officer.

I’m sensing that’s where they are going with it. He’s a combination of both characters who has Lore’s personality but also Data’s memories or something similar.

I have a funny feeling that Lore has been put back together so Starfleet can test a new experimental technology…ie merging android and organic materials (like organs etc) together.

An advanced cyborg or android/ human hybrid if you will….
hence the reduced gold skin, hair colour and ageing. Just a theory…

Yeah that’s also my hunch on that topic. Probably Datas mind in a golem body and they needed some of lores software to make it actually work ( since it was not a human mind they needed to transfer )

Agree with this — or, someone uploaded Data’s files into Lore’s positronic brain (which was as advanced as his, and could accommodate him better than B4’s) and then stuck it into the golem body Soong had intended for himself. But some of Lore is still present, and he’s working through the schizophrenia thus induced…

People keep saying this, but based on that “log”, my money is on a hybrid Lore/Soong.

That can work too, but I guess people just really want Data back in some form and this is probably the best they will get since B4 apparently didn’t work out.

Wow, it seems like they will go to any length it seems to shoehorn Spinner into a role.

my bet is Lore/Soong/B4 (Spare parts) Golem Body

Maybe Lore took the place of Data in Commander Maddox’s experiments after Starfleet failed to secure Data.


Dude I been thinking about you for days now!! I was worried because I haven’t seen you respond. I don’t know what area you live in, but I am so sorry what happened to Turkey. I know this is off topic but I think people understand. Are you OK? Your family?? I can’t imagine what it’s like right now regardless. It’s so depressing what has happened. But I am happy you’re fine at least.

Thanks for the well wishes, me and my family is fine but unfortunately there are many dead here. It is a traumatic situation for the whole country and the grieving process will be long but hopefully we’ll be able to rebuild.

Glad to hear you are okay.

I’m at least glad to hear you and your family are OK, but I can’t imagine how dramatic it is for everyone there. I was really hoping you posted somewhere to see you were OK but then I thought you probably just have other concerns right now then posting on a random message board.

But good to know!

Best wishes for all of you on the road to recovery

I remember you from my comment about “why have we never seen a Turkish Starfleet officer?” a year or two ago. I second Tiger2’s well wishes. If you don’t mind the question, do you live in Hatay or near the Turkish-Syrian border?

No, I live in the middle part of Turkey which thankfully was less effected by the devastation. I actually live in Ankara the capital city.

Seconding the well wishes here alphantrion.

This one of the more globally representative boards. I’m always concerned when one of us drops off when their has been a tragedy.

Looking forward to hearing your views when you’re ready for some diversion.

And yes, agreed. That’s possible too. I think Matalas has something good up his sleeve so I’m open for anything.

Perhaps this Lore, is the desperate try to get an new Host Golem Body for Soong. But it was done in a Hurry so that some old memories still resists inside the Old Golem Body. in the end we have Soong that with many Personas now. Lore, B4 and himself. Reminds me of some “He-Man” Man-E-Faces Figure (Yes, i am that old)

But this is now spun from deep inside me :)

Oh i see many others come to the same conclusion. Well, let’s see

Hopefully he’s married to Peanut Hamper

Ask your doctor about Horizon Colon Rescue.

But.. what…. Saavik? Are we going to see Captain Robin Curtis? Or Kirstie Alley?

Are flashbacks in S3 like… the Dr. Who short with Paul McGann? Are we going to see a series of these in each episode?

Clearly I should have something better to do tonight…

Well, I’m not sure Kirstie Alley had much interest in returning to Trek, did she? Unless she said something to the contrary in recent years that I missed. By the by, RIP.

I’d be all for a Robin Curtis cameo as well. I always thought she was fine in the role. Different but fine.

There is a lot of info about her working with Riker on the Titan… of course I had no idea. :)

I think you’re misinterpreting the words here. ‘Because of Captain’s Saavik and Riker’ likely refers to the exploits of both captains, not them convincing Starfleet to continue the Titan lineage. History shows that names get reused a lot in Trek (Defiant, Saratoga, Hood, etc.)

Well, I just wonder why this was in these “logs” at all unless it’s important info for the series, somehow.

Last I checked, she didn’t seem to, and her…political views likely would’ve made her persona non grata among the Trek fraternity.

Even a posthumous cameo, such as her picture on a historical log, would still be a nice tribute.

As for the “fraternity,” if you mean the screaming meemies of the internet, who cares? They would find something else to scream about three minutes later.

That would be awesome! Sounds like they need to do a flashback (or mini series, Kelvin movie, whatever) to that Titan or even recast Saavik, such an awesome character. You read some of the DC comics at the time… should have totally had more of her.
I’m good with Robin Curtis, but with Saavik being half Romulan, half Vulcan.

I’d be up to a made for streaming movie.

Or, if a Vanguard station 47 streaming series ever gets made (along the lines of the books), perhaps the Titan could be worked into the action.

Perhaps David Mack can be inspired to write a Titan/Vanguard novel…. He has a great track record in writing female captains.

It’s unfortunate that web sites always throw up the photo of Kristie Alley as Saavik and not Robin Curtiss. Curtiss did two movies to Alley’s one, and she seemed more committed to Star Trek versus just trying to maximize her $. I also think she was more credible in the role.

I liked them both, never really understood why Curtis got flak. She played a marvelous Vulcan in my book.

So the Enterprise-F has been in service 15 years AND is close to being decommissioned in it’s FIRST TV appearance?!

Also no explanation AT ALL to it’s service history or crew?! Why bother putting it in?!

Completely ridiculous.

Agreed! The Enterprise deserves better than this.

Well the B and C each got about ten minutes screen time, so not unusual

At least the B was on it’s maiden voyage, though the C should have been expanded upon more.

Yup. Shouldn’t have even bothered. I get trying to thank the STO crew for their help, but this ain’t it, chief.

Perhaps the final scene of S3 will be the TNG crew coming aboard the Enterprise-G for its maiden voyage? That would be a great throwback to Generations and possibly signal the main ship for the next live action show will be an Enterprise.

On the other hand, that’s 15 years and multiple captains’ worth of material for another spin-off one day…

How long do you keep a car? When things get old you cuck it.

Oh… I Just read
The Sandman, by German Autor ETA Hoffmann. In it an artifical women plays a crucial role and one characters Name is… Coppelius…

Saavik making Captain by 2290 sounds like quite a career advancement, who do they think she is, Kirk?

She did learn from the best and pretty much served through some of the most consequential events of the time.

I’d actually figure she would be tarred with the brush of Genesis, and also not have the ‘out’ of having helped save the planet in TVH. I really thought they didn’t begin to touch Robin Curtis’ talent, which is a shame. I saw her in some episodic TV series in the 80s where she was a committed teacher who basically got sacrificed by the school for doing the right thing and she was awesome in it (don’t even remember what series it was, but she was GOOD.)

Terry is good at making stuff up in his head. Lol. He has his own canon.

So he’s a fan then? ;-)

So did Altan Soong die before he could download into a new Golem? Or did his mind transfer fail? Or better yet, did he do like his father in the Cold Equations novels and transfer to an android body and assume a new identity?

I believe the golem body he gave Picard at the end of S1 was intended for him. Maybe he didn’t have time to construct a new one before his death?

Prediction: Lore isn’t Lore at all, it’s just Soong straight-up golem-izing Lore’s old body.

It must have been so fun to write these!

>starting with the first episode on Thursday, February 17, and each week our All Access Star Trek podcast will discuss the latest episode, starting on Friday, February 18

This paragraph was written by someone from alternate reality with alternate calendar, it seems.

No one complained so much when the Enterprise D was destroyed after such a short run. Perhaps moving forward the shows want to use a completely new Enterprise design not seen before but wanted to honour the design of the Odyssey class as per STO on screen and make it cannon. The same with Luna Class… whilst great designs. It’s also about fitting with what works on screen

well, Lore has still got that smirk. Actually kind of pleased he’s back, thank the Prophets it’s not another damn Soong.

Jonathan Frakes is looking fantastic in that pic. But…I don’t think I’ll ever get used to WORF HAVING EARS?! I think I’d unconsciously assumed he didn’t have any.

Before his character name for S3 was announced, I assumed Spiner would return as Altan Soong as that would provide some link to S1. I wasn’t initially pleased Lore was returning, but given what we’ve learned so far I’m trusting that Matalas has done the character justice. And yes – thank the Prophets we’re not getting yet another brand-new Soong.

Regarding Worf, I’ve been re-watching several key TNG and DS9 episodes lately, and I can’t recall ever having seen Worf’s ears. Other notable Klingons – Duras, Gowron, Lursa, B’Etor, and Martok, even K’ehleyr and Alexaner (who had human blood) – I cannot find scenes where they showed their ears.

I think you can see the very tips of his earlobes in a few passing shots but never fully exposed.

Likely this is another concession made for Mike Dorn’s desire to not spend 4 hours in makeup every day

Colonel Worf’s ears were visible in ST: TUC, as was General Chang’s. When Lt. Worf wore the bob during the early seasons of TNG, sometimes his ear lobes were visible. I don’t recall having seen more than that.

The Titan log just makes me wonder… Why Constitution III class and not Shangri-La II class? ESPECIALLY if it was designed after the original Shangri-La?

Fridging the F is really dumb hopefully the shenanigans of the season reverse the decision and it just gets a second wind. Unless we’re to expect the G, H and I suddenly get service times of 50 years each when their three predecessors average about a decade between them, it doesn’t seem like much thought when into it.

“the Enterprise-E, the log ends with “Final Mission: CLASSIFIED” maybe the Enterprise-E is still out there adrift somewhere or just been missing and presumed lost – and will show up again during the course of the show. Hoping.