Paramount Reportedly Working To Get ‘Star Trek 4’ Into Pre-Production “Quickly”

We have another update on the next Star Trek feature film from Paramount Pictures. It’s been over seven years since Star Trek Beyond, and there have been a number of starts and stops since. However, the studio is apparently planning to get the project moving forward again. There is also an update on how J.J. Abrams has shaped the story for the film.

Paramount looking to fine-tune Trek feature

The sudden focus on the next Star Trek movie is largely the result of the end of the WGA strike. Hollywood management is eager to get projects moving again in order to deliver new shows and movies at a rushed pace. A post-WGA-strike article by Variety breaking down how the different studios are moving forward calls out the next Trek feature at Paramount as an example:

Several big movie projects could see preproduction resume quickly. Paramount is hoping to have writers fine-tuning scripts for its planned reboot of “Star Trek” and its adaptation of Tom Clancy’s “Rainbow Six.”

In early 2022 when Paramount and producer J.J. Abrams announced they were moving forward with Star Trek 4 for an originally planned Christmas 2023 release, the latest draft for the movie was penned by Josh Friedman (Avatar 2) and Cameron Squires (WandaVision), based on earlier drafts by Lindsey Anderson Beer (Pet Semetary: Bloodlines) and Geneva Robertson-Dworet (Captain Marvel). It’s unknown if Friedman and Squires are doing the 2023 “fine-tuning.”

Based on an idea from J.J. Abrams

Having recently given encouraging words that the sequel to Star Trek Beyond is still in the works, original co-writer Lindsey Anderson Beer (who left the project to write and direct Pet Semetary: Bloodlines for Paramount+) has another update. When asked by what her version of the movie might have looked like, Beer revealed that the basis for the story came directly from J.J. Abrams:

“I wrote a couple drafts of that before I had to leave for Pet Sematary. And it was originally, the seed of the idea came from J.J. himself, who’s such a creatively generous person, and it was amazing collaborating with him…”

Earlier this year, Abrams talked up this idea, now known to be his own. He told Esquire:

 “I will say it’s the first time that we have a story that feels as compelling as the first one [2009’s Star Trek].”

Lindsey Anderson Beer credits J.J. Abrams with the basis for her screenplay

Despite considerable delays and an unclear path forward, fan support for the Kelvin-era movies remains strong, albeit not universal. The cast remains committed to reprising their roles if and when the movie is ready to shoot. All eyes look back to Paramount to see if a director and script can be lined up or if other projects will continue to get priority over Star Trek.

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Oh for goodness sake, just let this reboot series die already. It’s never going to make the money Paramount wants it to make, and the cast don’t seem all that bothered!

I agree the cast seem not to care to return and if the original cast is not for the movie then is not even worth making it.

In the immortal words of James T. Kirk (the original and only one): “LET THEM DIE!”

You mean you’re not excited by the prospect of a story by JJ Abrams, one of the most talented storytellers of our age?

I would like to see this movie get made, but I think the odds of it happening are about 1%. Paramount will toy with it for a year again and then it will quietly go away.

Except now they have to show they have major projects after the strike to get the stock price back up again. That’s why I think it’s real this time — they need the optics of this for business reasons NOW regardless of whether the movie makes money or not.

The one thing I will say that is in favor of this movie getting made is that after the Writers negotiations, The studios may not be so quick to put their franchise movies as much on streaming as opposed to actual theatrical launches. Having said that, Star Trek has never been the vehicle to make money in the movies.

But Phil, Ami and those two other dudes have continually told all of us the next Kelvin movie was dead?

They have good reason to think that. So many Kelvin movie starts have been announced and abandoned that it is reasonable to assume it may never actually happen.

True, but if it happens now they will proven to have been wrong with those comments over the last year on this topic.

They were right the dozens of times the numskulls at Paramount clamoured that ST4 is coming, they’re so excited and it’s going to be great, then nothing. This for 7 years.

The point that you’re missing is that Phil et al were right, all those times they promised a movie that didn’t happen.

It seems to be important for you to throw people under the bus, just so you can validate your ego by saying how you were right.

Just get a dog, he’s going to think you’re the best and it’s going to soothe your tortured soul.

I’m just having fun with this. It’s heartwarming though to know that someone takes me more seriously than I take myself.

Again, not sure where you got that idea. I’ve never, ever, said Paramount isn’t ever going to make another theatrical movie. I’ve just called bulls**t on previous announcements that they were making a movie when it was pretty obvious they weren’t making a movie.

Yeah, of course. I’m just having fun with this ongoing issue that we all get wrapped up about.

Until the first day of actual film shooting, then there is no reason to believe this movie will happen.

No reason? None at all?

By that logic, if we hear they are in the process of casting it and building sets at some point you’ll be claiming there is still no reason to believe it will ever happen…lol.

That’s nonsensical. :-))

None of the previous announcements ever got to that point, and you’ve been busy busting my chops for pointing that out. JJ and Paramount are most definitely in “boy who cried wolf” territory, so their talking up a new project with the on-screen talent is still on strike is suspicious, at best.

So you agree with me then that it gets to the point that they’re building sets and casting, that we will conclude the movie is on.

Good, that means you and I are an agreement that Boring One overstated his point that we can only conclude the movie is on when the first day of filming starts.

Why are you always picking fights with people? Where does this come from?

What fight? I was having fun with the fans who always doubt the new movie news, which by the way, they have good reason to do so…relax! :-)

I always see this type of comments when news like this appears and guess what – the movie doesn’t get made.

Yep. And it’s always amusing.

Not sure where you got that idea. I like the Kelvin universe. What I have done is point out the myriad of previous announcements didn’t pass the sniff test. Batting 1.000 so far……

You’re correct, that was a couple of the other folks I referenced

I really want to see a show based on the Kelvin universe.

Exactly. They all been BS and it’s sad to see gullible fans fall for it again and again and again and again. Even I fell for the Tarantino one lol.

I don’t care about JJ verse at all and would be happy it just finally dies. But if they really prove they are serious about making another one then the rest of us will take it seriously. When Chris Pine is on set in uniform reading off lines how he has to take down another super villain from the 2_ century whose out for Vengeance or another planet gets destroyed then you will have my full attention.

Not until that point though and they have never gotten anywhere close to that in five failed announcements and seven years so far. 😂🙄

I still think they should just put it on Paramount+. I think it’s going to do worse than Beyond did. Most people will just watch it there anyway.

It was dead, several times over. I’m not saying the 3rd (8th?) time isn’t the charm but I am def not holding my breath.

Alternate headline: “Paramount reportedly working to announce latest Star Trek movie false start soon”

Good news! I much prefer this over the Legacy series

…which you haven’t seen, and which doesn’t exist So naturally you prefer this to that.

My point is I that if I were offered a choice of which production I want to see more I’m going with another Kelvin movie over a Legacy series.

Since we’re going to get Star Wars masquerading as Star Trek in either case, then I would at least prefer the higher budget better looking JJ Abrams version over the Matalas budget Trek geriatric fan service version

Jeri Ryan is hardly geriatric, and if the “Legacy” series is based on her crew, it will hardly be geriatric. If a Legacy series is approved, it would likely have the same budget as Strange New Worlds.

And it likely won’t be any better than any other Secret Hideout production that came before it. The KU films were flawed but for all their flaws there were still more fun to watch than anything on P+.

In your opinion.


Not for me, so sorry.

To each their own but I can’t agree in my case. ST 2009 was a fun popcorn Star Wars movie. STID was just laughably bad. Beyond was way better than STID but still wasn’t nearly worth my $20 movie ticket/drink.

I would take SNW a hundred times over any JJ verse nonsense and I liked Beyond as you know. But even hardcore Trekkies mostly shrugged over that movie. Decent but just kind of meh.

That’s nice but the KU feels more like Star Trek to me than anything Secret Hideout has made. Do not misinterpret that to mean they are great Treks. They aren’t. They are just easier on the eyes than SNW and the rest of the Secret Hideout shows.

No more geriatric than the TOS cast when they made their movies.

LOL 😂. Boldly doing that every other 90’s Trek show has done before. 🥱 how boring. We don’t need “legacy retread”.

Repeating a point based on flawed logic over and over again doesn’t make it right or give it more credibility.

Yeah I agree with you

Nobody has seen legacy either but that seems to be the preference from most fans. Interesting how that works. Majority rules to you, that’s all that matters.

Personally I’d love a jeri Ryan-led Trek series. But not Legacy. Give me a Beyond sequel, not a parade of poorly written cameo driven stories that idi** fans will eat up like slop before the slaughter and praise as true trek and genius storytelling no matter how much it’s exactly what they said they didn’t want 5 years ago..

It’s just so fun to come here and talk about something we love with each other these days.

Yeah, right? The main reason I hardly visit, much less comment anymore. It’s sad.

Well I LOVE Thailand. Do you LOVE Thailand?

Oh f*ck it! I mean Phuket!

LOL 😆 Next time I’m going to Phuket just to have a look around. I’m not a beach person, I live in Florida and I’ve never been to the beach.

I had a friend long ago that worked in Phuket and she said it was paradise. The Sanibel and Captiva islands in Florida are worth going to. Anything on the east coast is taken over by tourists.

I live near sanibel and captiva, never been there. Florida just bores me.

You guys aren’t the majority

Wow. I’ve seen vitriol on here before, but this flat out insulting.

Have you talked to every fan? Internet Trek fans are just a loud minority and should never be listened to seriously.

Legacy is a name and some actors and a set and those things would be at least partially changed by the time of a series (look at the Enterprise NCC-1701 in DSC and then how it is in SNW, characters included). There has been no pitch that has been made public yet, and possibly not at all.

People keep talking about Legacy as if it’s a well-refined thing that just needs to have cameras pointed at it, but it’s a long way from that. Just a vague notion at this point and potentially a Rohrschach’s test for individual fans fantasy Star Trek unless and until something is developed. Then as always people will have all manner of opinions.

Personally, I’d rather have Jeri Ryan and her Enterprise than Chris Pine’s.

Given the current trajectory though, I’d actually deem Anson Mount’s Enterprise a viable feature movie. The show is popular, gets good reviews and the actors would be cheap dates. Those are all pluses over another Kelvin movie with very questionable prospects.

@Q-Less – I don’t see the viability of having strange new worlds as a feature film.

It’s had some okay numbers for a TV show but turning that into a feature film for a global audience to help bolster a brand I don’t personally see it.

Having Chris Pine, Zoe Saldana etc back on the screen for star trek is star power so I could see that as a bigger draw if nothing else. Plus here’s hoping for a really good story!

The TV shows should stick to TV for now.

“It’s had some okay numbers for a TV show but turning that into a feature film for a global audience to help bolster a brand I don’t personally see it.”

Yeah imagine turning a Star Trek series into a feature film, that would never work.

Some ok numbers? SNW, Picard, and the Yellowstone prequel are the only shows P+ has that put them in the top ten original streaming shows episode after episode.

Except say they make that movie, then they all want big money for the sequel to it — and then we’re back where we started anyway.

I’d rather see Strange New Worlds stay on TV. When Star Trek goes to the movies, it tends to become less Trekkian and more generically Hollywood.

I’m down for anything from good sci fi writers that want to find the next beloved crew and tell new stories set in a universe we love. Legacy could be that. Not all nostalgia is bad, it just can’t be the focus. JJ, Akira and Henry are all much too focused on that, and not big ideas. I just want Trek to be good again.

Except that the only people who know those characters are subscribers to a streaming service.

All of the feature films have been based on TOS or TNG, both of which aired in syndication and reached a far wider audience.

So you prefer a 2 hour movie every 3-7 years over 10 episodes a year.

If it’s Matalas-Trek, then yes I do.

SAG is still on strike. This isn’t news, it’s a couple of people chatting something up over cocktails…..

Yeah of course. When did I never say it was more than just my opinion? Lorna Dune made the weird remark that I would have to watch them first to have this opinion? That made no sense.

So yeah this is like fans having me a drink talking about what they would prefer. I agree completely

I thought the strike ended? Did I dream that?

The writers strike ended. The Actors strike has not yet

Oh okay. I not really paying much attention this strike anyway. I don’t care either way if I’m to be honest.

The adventures of Picard’s son is appealing to me. I’d watch it even if the third season of Picard was a dead end. Not the rebirth of TNG. I saw very little that said it was a hopeful optimistic future the kind Gene imagined. A lot explosions, betrayals and space revenge aplenty though. It was like Best of Both Worlds meets the Wrath of Khan. So derivative. Without the humanity or context of those stories.

Jack gets on my nerves. He feels like a character from a bad Charles Dickens novel. I’m surprised he didn’t call papa Picard Gov.

If the idea is from Abrams, it is gonna be derivative like you can’t believe and as terrible as only I can believe (going by the awfulness of the 09 alone, though also looking at the rest of his downright terrible oeuvre.)

The initial part of the story about a ST ‘reboot’ sounds … unexpected. Do they think this is the SpideyVerse or something, where you reboot anytime you manage to succeed in tying your laces?

For a reboot, I’d say do TOS with a new bigger version of THE DOOMSDAY MACHINE story as a standalone. For extra pathos, you can have Pike or April or Garth of Izar in place of Decker. This shows me evolving, as for decades I figured BALANCE OF TERROR was the perfect story to use as a reboot and had plenty of room for expansion to feature-size, but SNW kind of peed all over BoT and thus soured me a little on it.

Or you could really shake things up and have the planet killer waste the Enterprise, with Kirk the sole, grief-crazed survivor. That’d be on par with that BSG remake idea which didn’t happen where the GALACTICA gets blown up two-thirds of the way through and it turns into a PEGASUS show.

That would be in keeping with the Kelvin timeline Enterprise getting the shit beat out of it every movie.

HAHA it’s so true. “Oh Kirk you scamp, you destroyed another one? Don’t worry the Enterprise Z is on the assembly line as we speak!”

There was a script treatment for ST3 that was a remake of Doomsday Machine and another episode (mightve been Balence of Terror?) it was written by the Thor/XMen writer and he discussed it on the Inglorious Treksperts podcast a year or so ago, I think he said it wouldve ended on a cliffhanger with Khan showing up leading the klingons!

The word “reboot” gets totally exaggerated and misused these days so I wouldn’t take that as true. For example the new Quantum Leap show is being called a reboot but it is anything but. It is a sequel to the original.

Totally, in fact just yesterday I was listening to radio 4 a woman was reviewing the new Frasier series and called it a reboot multiple times, as well as referencing Just Like That calling it the reboot of SATC. So yeah in the msm ‘reboot’ is now just another word for sequel or ‘legacy sequel’ for a franchise thats been away for a while.. Whereas 10/15y ago it meant a total overall of a franchise/throw out all that went before/start over/complete remake – Batman Begins, Casino Royale, Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Incredible Hulk, Amazing Spiderman, Man of Steel.. and Star Trek 2009 (although that was also a sequel/prequel). and go back abit further a reboot was called a ‘reimagining’ (Burtons Planet of the Apes)

But will they be able to get the cast back? I think that’s going to be the biggest hurdle. Can they even still afford Chis Pine?

They need to show shareholders they’ve got major projects ready to go after the strike, so this is all “play money” – it doesn’t have to make total financial sense in this unusual circumstance. They can eat the big budget if it restores short term shareholder confidence and increases the stock price in the near term.

In this post strike environment business optics will be more important than ROI.

It absolutely MUST make financial sense. Most studios are already losing millions in streaming. They have to show Paramount as a studio is still financially viable for Theatrical releases like Top Gun. Shareholders don’t care if there is another Trek movie or not so long as whatever they do make makes money.

No, you are wrong, the immediate priority is to increase the stock price coming out of the strike. This is an unusual situation where the business perception of Paramount having major projects coming out of the strike is more important than if those movies make a lot of money or not two years from now.

I agree they have to get projects on the books and ones that shareholders are excited about. But I don’t think Trek will do that. It’s pretty well known that Beyond flopped and that any Trek announcement will be taken with huge grans of salt for obvious reasons. I don’t see Paramounts bottom line moving an inch from Trek.

Paramount puts Pine in a lot of projects and the box office hasn’t always been great. There’s room to negotiate with him. Plus there’s room to trim the budget – you just script it differently or find ways to film with smaller units and more versatile sets. Most of the II-FC films (barring V) were fairly clever with how they made use of smaller budgets. All could have used a little more expenditure (particularly Generations), but if you script with a little pragmatism and use limitations creatively, it can yield something far more rewarding than some of the, “We’ll fix it in post” type films we’ve gotten since CGI became ubiquitous.

I haven’t seen it yet but I have heard people rave about “The Creator” which seems to be a scifi epic that was allegedly shot for less than $90 million.
Apparently, they achieved this with clever use of locations and very good planning/strategic use of VFX shots.

They seriously pared down the number of crew and shoot days to make it happen as well.

I think they’ve figured out how to afford him, so I’m going to go with yes. But agree, scheduling is the hardest part. If they get far enough out it can happen.

Is Pine’s price still that high? Why? When was the last time he starred in a smash hit, Wonder Woman where he was No.2 billing? That was six years ago. I liked Dungeons & Dragons, but it was a flop at the box office.

After D&D Pine will most likely be affordable for ST4 :)

That’s the question I keep asking. Pine and Saldana are big names these days and they aren’t going to take the same salary as they did for ‘09. But then again to play my own devil’s advocate, Saldana is doing a P+ show now so who knows…

JJ Abrams has only, like, three ideas in his head so, here’s hoping we actually get Jennifer Garner as Admiral Alias. The movie won’t be good, but at least we’ll be able to say “the one with Admiral Alias.’

I really like Mission: Impossible III. Tom Cruise was prescient to give Abrams the platform to make it based on how exciting Alias was at the time.

But parts of the movie really are just “Alias: Impossible.” Whole scenes from the pilot are repurposed in that movie.

For my money, that movie’s remembered fondly because a) it actually was better than its immediate predecessor, but b) more to the point, PSH elevated the material. Considerably.

Says the non millionaire

Yes, JJ Abrams is a better person than either of us because he has millions of dollars. Not because we are losers posting on a Star Trek message board.

Know your place ! 😉

lol! True.

Stuff I wanna see in ST4

Those maroon uniforms Kelvin style (its nearing TWOK era so some of the 80s style aesthetic/tech including refitted Enterprise-A looking more like the movie Enterprise)

Yesterdays Enterprise/City on the Edge epic timetravel/timeline dilemmas (regarding the kelvin-verse. could it be wiped out even?)

Nero (either he somehow survived the end of ST09 or via timetravel we go back to the first movie thing)

Shatner Kirk (deepfaked to movie era)

Saavik (Dua Lipa?)

Some big deaths/sacrifice (kill off spock? like for real this time. no bringing him back)

Not bad!

They killed off Spock for real in the last movie.

Did they need to do that? (although finding the Star Trek V cast photo was a fun scene)

Well the movie came out after Leonard Nimoy’s death so the prime universe Spock was written to be gone for real. No Genesis planet. Quinto Spock is still very much alive.

Its just they kept Paul Walkers character alive in the F&F so maybe there was no need to kill off Spock Prime (or Chekov in ST4, just say he’s transferred to Reliant, which makes sense if they fact track to TWOK era)

Its more TMP era now than TWOK era. TWOK was 15 years after Space Seed, which is probably roughly the same timeframe as Beyond.

Beyond took place about 4 years before the start of TOS, actually.

Assuming the monster maroons are to actually exist in the Kelvinverse, they’re still about 10-15 years away, actually.

TWOK era could be fast tracked in the Kelvin universe like TOS got fast tracked , (just skip TMP!)

Agreed. We already would have the Enterprise A and the 1701 wasn’t even gone in the Prime universe till Search for Spock.

The Kelvin universe has TNG style uniforms in canon (Discovery S3) so I think there is precedent.


I’m hoping the premise of this will not be just another random story set in the Kelvin timeline. I’m not saying make it prime but maybe something ttats more all encompassing within the Star Trek universe. Kelvin universe needs an injection of new energy in my opinion.

Yes in this multiverse era (Spiderman, Dr Strange, The Flash even though it bombed, and coming soon Deadpool 3 & Avengers Secret Wars) thered HAVE to be some acknowledgement of the Prime timeline (esp now Trek is back all under one roof), not necessarily full on the kelvin-verse cast go into Primeverse but something whereby its central to the plot (maybe there’s the chance to reset things/stop Nero creating the kelvin timeline and save Vulcan/Kirks dad/Spocks mom ..or to not do that ..)

The Kelvin timeline is terrible. Chris Pine is not a good actor, he plays it the same way in every movie he is in. Plus these now very famous actors are going to want way more than Paramount wants to pay.

Come up with an original idea. Stop the reboots.

I think it’s supposed to be a sequel? In any case I do agreed that an original idea would be nice but i don’t think there is such a thing. More of a reinterpretation of a previous thing done well – that would be great!

RE: Chris Pine, the problem with ST 2009 is Pine’s inspiration for Kirk was ironically Harrison Ford and not William Shatner. STID was just a horribly written movie so I don’t really place any blame on Pine. But by Beyond, Pine was doing a fine job of channeling Shatner without doing a Shatner impression.

The first one wasn’t really that compelling- kind of a hail mary pass continuity-wise. Though less of a dead end than his other sci-fi reboot…

Sure, Jan.

“Fan support for the Kelvin-Era movies remains strong.” According to what, now? Was there a Gallup poll that I missed?

Somehow palpatine has returned

Somehow Krall has returned..

Everyone: ‘Who?’

I would like to know if they would consider a new trilogy with the KelvinCast. One that doesn’t have some globe-destroying or galaxy-destroying thing, but something more psychological. Something more… Star Trek. But then, that doesn’t sell cinema tickets.

Are they rebooting or continuing the Kelvin-verse?

Yes. ;)

It’s basically the same thing. They’re calling it a reboot since it’s been so long. When you reboot your computer, you’re not getting a new one either.

Often reboot just means sequel, Ive lost count of the times a long awaited sequel is branded a ‘reboot’ in the media. happened for likes of last few Terminators, Aliens, Predators, Top Gun Maverick, Blade Runner 2, Matrix 4, even the Star Wars sequels.. all of them were proper sequels or prequels yet got termed ‘reboot’ in the msm as if they were Batman Begins/Casino Royale

In this case it sounds like its the 4th Kelvin movie

Thanks! I was confused.

Disney Star Wars was a requel. Reboot sequel. Remake of the OT.

Lucas sequel was a sequel to the prequel with midichlorians, whills, more politics, teenage heroes/heroines. Darth Maul as the new Emperor. I wonder why Disney refused to make that one.

I wonder if Lucas’ sequels would’ve gone over better than what we got.. maybe if he’d have done Luke better than how Last Jedi did him (that movie really kind of derailed the whole Disney SW thing)

Meh. As long as it doesn’t interfere with TV Trek, or the already greenlit S31 film for P+, whatever I guess. Only two of the three Kelvin films felt remotely Trekkian to me, and it’s already been seven years since Beyond. Even if they hodge-podge a script by the end of the month, hire yet another director, and bring back the Kelvin cast, it will Q4 2025 before this film is released.

Same. If Paramount wants to make another Kelvin movie, rock out. I won’t be in theaters for it but I’m sure plenty of other fans will. Just let me have what’s left of P+ Trek before they cancel and pull those too.

Star power sells tickets and the SNW cast wouldn’t draw flies across the box office. Watch for the Kelvin crew to run into a particular Academy Award winning Mirror Universe Emperor… Bet your bottom dollar on it.

Star power is elusive nowadays. Some A list holdovers from the 90s and 2000s have some wattage and clout, but few actors can open a movie big just on their name anymore. And with budgets soaring, you need a big opening weekend AND great word of mouth now more than ever.

Agreed. Zoe Saldana is an A lister but she is currently doing a streaming show on P+ like many A listers these days.

Section 31 P+ movie getting promoted to theatrical and guest starring the Kelvin cast? Intriguing notion

Just ask yourself: Why would they “waste” the most in-demand female actress right now on a mere streaming movie? Let’s not even mention Michelle is likely the most in-demand female actress over 60 in the history of cinema. It would be strictly a business decision and it’s a dang good one IMHO.

It’s a good point to be sure but the other side of the coin is would Yeoh even want to do a Star Trek movie that was theatrical? There would be WAY more exposure for her being in Trek for a theatrical movie and she might not want to take the chance of association.

Yeoh’s star power might be overstated here. That Academy Award winning movie (Everything Everywhere All At Once) did a whopping $141.2 million at the box office, less than Star Trek Beyond.

Time’s top 100 most influential people, 9 separate projects in the works, the first Asian Oscar winner… plus the amount of $ made by Everything is not relevant to her post-win prospects. Paramount would reboot itself as a coffee chain if it meant they could make an extra dollar, so again IMHO, this is a slam dunk and streaming is not happening with her.

Winning an Oscar doesn’t necessarily equate to big box office numbers for his/her next movie. Frances McDormand has won Best Actress three times, most recently 2021. Quick, name her last movie. Heck, name the one she won it for in 2021.

Yeoh isn’t actually on the Time 100 list this year. You know who is? Zoe Saldana. Now if they could just make a Star Trek movie with her in it… and maybe this time give her more to do than just recognizing some guy’s voice in a recording.

A Haunting in Venice’s moderate box office is a better example with which to back up your thesis, even though Kenneth Branagh’s Poirot is a smaller niche than Star Trek. EEAAO is a wacky high concept low budget film. It is nothing short of a minor miracle for it to have done such great box office.

Either way it’s still unfair to compare smaller films’ B.O. with established big budget IPs and not only chide the former for not doing as well as the latter, but put the responsibility for that on one actor.

I’m not comparing, I’m questioning Singh’s assertion that Michelle Yeoh will be some box office audience magnet if Paramount wrangles her into Star Trek 14. I just don’t think so. I’ll be happy to be proven wrong though.

If that was true MI Dead Reckoning wouldn’t have bombed. Tom Cruise is like the last movie star.

They’re gonna reboot TNG in the Kelvin timeline

That would actually be interesting.

Vin Diesel as Picard

God, no. Hire someone who can actually act and not just smirk at the camera.

He’d probably be great as the Lobot guy in EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, but geez, don’t give him any lines, not EVER (except as Groot.)

It’s hilarious man! 😂

These people keep telling us they are making another movie…but never make the movie. Last time they had a director, writers, a premiere date and even trolled the cast it was happening.

So THIS time they are serious? Seven years later now Paramount means business. Whatever, just stop trolling and make it. If it’s good I’ll be in line. If it’s like the first two movies I’ll wait for it to hit Paramount+ a month later.

Mean time give me Legacy, SNW and LDS and I’m good!

No vision=no script=no director=no movie.

They’ve had ~7 years to make this film. It’s pretty obvious they don’t want to. Just sunset the Abramsverse and focus on the TV side for the time being. Trek can’t generate MCU numbers no matter how much they want to believe it can.

Who cares how long it takes.

Because at this rate it will be the actual 23rd century before we get another Star Trek movie if they keep relying on Bad Robot/Kelvin.

Dude it will probably be out in 2025.

Honestly, the KU movies while not as good as the Trek that came before, were still watchable. Which is more than can be said for the product coming out of the Secret Hideout meat grinder.

But the fact is, I will not believe this will happen until there is a director yelling “action” on a set. Been burned too many times with past stories.

I won’t believe it until I’m sat in the cinema munching marshmallow flavour popcorn and hearing Pine yelling ‘Fire all weapons’ at the Narada as the Kelvin limps toward the time rift

Reading all the responses on this thread looks like everyone here agrees with this lol.

This is the same brain trust who announced they were bringing back the entire cast for the movie but never told them.

If they keep any of the actual plot of the original Rainbow Six novel, I’d *love* to see how they handle, or more likely mishandle, it.

Make a Section 31 movie.

They already are.

There’s a possibility you’ve conflated their stated intention to make a Section 31 movie with their actually making one

Great point lol. But he makes it sound like there is no plans to even make one. So an odd statement I guess. And that has a thousand times happening over another Kelvin movie because they aren’t spending $100 million to make it.

Wake up.

He would be fire as Picard.

Keep the budget low and focus less on razzle dazzle. I would love to see the Kelvin crew again. Keep the passage of time in real-world terms tho; it’s been almost 15 years since the first one so let’s see where these guys are 15 years later.
I hated the fact that Into Darkness was released four years after the first one but only 6 months had passed in-universe.

That did happen a few time in the original films tho III set only weeks after II, IV a few months after III, V was maybe only a few months after IV, plus TMP was only set about 2-4years? after TOS (why not just make it a decade like real time), and I think VI was supposed to be set almost a decade after V.

but yeah Kelvin 4 should be set a decade at least after Beyond

Urgh.. More JJ Crap. Let it go away so we can get cheaper, but higher quality real Star Trek.

“Let them die!” James T. Kirk

Based on an idea from J.J. AbramsYeah, you lost me already. I hate that man so much for the damage he has done to Trek and Star Wars…..

Where did he hurt you ?

I have zero interest in a Kelvin timeline sequel. I want more Strange New Worlds.

I don’t know why they don’t reintroduce the prime timeline to the movies. They could make it an event. Nemesis was so long ago. Picard season 3 proved the audience for the Berman shows is still strong. But lets make another JJ movie.

After so many false starts for Star Trek 14, I will not really care about reports, rumours and hearsay until filming actually begins. Then I will believe this new movie will actually be released.

With tax write-offs these days, you can’t even be sure that a movie that has finished filming actually gets released.
But as long as they are just talking about plans/intentions to make a movie it’s basically a non-story.

Just let it go already. I think and believe that the streaming series has really solidify the essence (for the most part) of what ST is (or was), and is really making solid roots. The whole Kelvin series was something to fill a void when ST was struggling to find its identity again… and it was obvious, that it did not pan out as well as many anticipated or hoped.
The streaming series, especially STSNW, has proved that ST can be done in a way that honors the original vision of Roddenberry … these Kelvin movies, while nice to watch on tv every now and then – are a thing of the past.

They waited way too long. Next they will wonder why this movie bombs no matter what the plot is.

The big issue is they have to get the budget WAY down for a ST4.

I won’t believe it until I’m sitting there watching it, blinded by the lens flares.

More time has passed since the first Chris Pine Star Trek movie debuted… than the entire run of the 6 Shatner era films.

Damn, we’re all gettin’ old.

Hearing the idea came from JJ himself doesn’t get me excited. Then again.. all ST II needed was the right Writer / Director to make the best Trek we ever got.. so the idea may not matter if the execution is good. My issue with JJ is he’s one of the most unimaginative writers out there. He’s a great technical director, and great with casting.. but they need to keep him far away from story.. especially with Trek.

Is there a director/writer that can do one for half what Beyond cost because that is the only way they get a return on investment. In a post covid world i don’t see one being made for 140-150 million. It just isn’t realistic.

I’ve heard that “The Creator” was made for less than $90 million. Maybe Paramount should talk to the team behind that movie. I should note that I haven’t seen that movie yet so no idea if it’s actually any good.

Lens flares galore!

I’d prefer Pussy Galore, myself.

Everytime I see excessive and unwarranted lens flare, a big part of me thinks that a pre-teen is shooting the movie. Either that or a grownup with execrable taste.

Any way this goes down, if it even happens, I’m waiting for it to come to P+. No theater for me, very little interest. Cheers.

I’ve found myself going to fewer and fewer movies these days, myself.

I’ll believe it when I see it. interesting to note that the Variety story states that this is a

…planned reboot of “Star Trek”.

Either the writer was imprecise, or this is not another film in the Kelvin series.

I’m happy to see someone actually read the source material. There’s just a touch of irrational exuberance here that this means Trek 4 getting pushed to the front of the line. The article also points out that work that was almost greenlit, or currently in production has priority. Studio space will be at a premium. Oh, and projects that were wobblers previously could get cut.

In today’s news, SAG is pointing out that they represent a number of on-screen talent trades, and it could take a while to negotiate a deal. So there’s that…..

They should leave the TOS characters to P+ and do Kelvin TNG movies now.

The mention of a reboot is intriguing though.

I would normally say that it’s too late to go back to this crew after such a long hiatus, but these actors have only gotten more popular so I think the outlook for a successful return is promising.

It’s not too late. They shouldn’t be picking up where they left off, though…..

A story from the mind of JJ Abrams, the destroyer of franchises?

Paramount is just like Disney, doubling down on stupid.

Never fails. Trek 4 movie news always generates the most comments in the least amount of time. Now if only the Kentucky Derby prognostications held the same promise.

I don’t want to say this article is clickbait…..but it’s clickbait.

Yeah, how dare Trek MOVIE dot com write up news published recently in another source about a Star Trek movie!

Go read the source material…..

Not encouraged that the idea is from J.J. Abrams… His ideas lately have been the mess that was Rise of Skywalker and Cloverfield 3…. Thousand. Not encouraging.

JJ did exactly what Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy wanted. Produce two safe corporately driven products. It was the same old Star Wars. Only the lead was a woman, and co-star a black man. And for some reason that was controversial. I wonder if Luke was the main and Rey was the sidekick if there would have been as many complaints, but i already know the answer.

My problem was never the cast for the sequel movies. It was always that for me it completely undid Return of the Jedi because here we are decades later, the galaxy still sux, the “Empire” is still there, and worst of all, there are still no Jedi in the Galaxy.

Luke reluctantly started a new Jedi order, aware that it could lead to rebirth of the sith

Also the new republic failed to see the growing threat of the first order, risen from ashes of the empire

I don’t sense that this is going anywhere…. and frankly maybe it shouldn’t …

Didn’t Bob Orci write the first two, not Abrams. So why is Abrams writing this one?

Bob Orci set up an interesting Kelvin verse with ST: 2009 only to let his horrid political analogies self destruct the Enterprise with Into Darkness (photon torpedoes, cough, drones into the Klingon Empire with GWB are bad you see, ignore that they are saving Ukraine today. Poor poor Kahn, turns out he just wanted his family back).
It’s sad because I think he had the right set up. You had it where Kahn, picked up a genetically engineered strategic genius, manipulates a desperate post-destruction-of-Vulcan Starfleet into thinking he can save them from the Klingons only to betray them and prepare a take over with only a Kirk on strange frontier missions thinking something has gone amiss. But nope, poor poor Kahn being mislead by GWB, so dumb.
It’s sad because if you ever watch Transformers Prime you can tell that the guy can write awesome when not on a tangent, while Into Darkness was a Enterprise can only last 2 seconds in combat wreck, Prime was a fantastic series!

Orci shouldve written the 3rd one, we’d have got Shatner return as Kirk (deaged to Generations era), big implications for the Kelvin timeline under threat of being wiped out (abit like Yesterdays Enterprise), Bryan Cranston as the villain, Alice Eve back as Carol Marcus..

sounded better (and more a continuation of the first film) than whatever Beyond was supposed to be (Gold Key live action?)

Nobody is saying that Abrams is writing this one. There have been several writers attached to this project. One of those writers said that “the seed of the idea” came from Abrams. That could just mean a two-sentence pitch, or it could be more.

I don’t think he is writing it but rather the idea for the script was his and other writers went with it. But I have to admit that JJ having ANY say in the script gives me huge pause.

Don’t hold your breath on this one.

Theatrical reboot would be a waste of money. Another Kelvin movie with the main cast…less wall to wall FX…more character moments that could be interesting! let JJ direct it again also why not his direction on the first 2 movies was pretty good so let him have another shot at it!

A bit off topic but I just found out Chris Pine wrote and directed a movie called Poolman. Has anyone heard of it before? Well I don’t think it’s going to be a gateway to Pine directing a future Star Trek movie or even a commercial since it is currently 20% on RT.

That’s bad. That’s Discovery level of bad. Even though I joke a lot, I do think he’s a decent actor, but that probably should just be his focus reading some of the reviews.

Id heard he was going to do Poolman a while ago but had no idea it had come out.

I don’t think it’s come out yet. It was shown at some movie festival and where the reviews come from. To be fair there are only 20 reviews up so far so it can improve with more, but the few I read were brutal.