The final part of the Star Trek Universe panel at San Diego Comic-Con 2024 was dedicated to the upcoming streaming movie starring Academy Award winner Michelle Yeoh, and gave us our first trailer.
First look at Section 31
The teaser trailer for Star Trek: Section 31 coming to Paramount+ in early 2025 makes good on its promise for something different. Check it out.
A surprise video “interruption” from Michelle Yeoh introduced the teaser to the Hall H crowd in San Diego. On the panel were cast members Omari Hardwick, Sam Richardson, and Kacey Rohl, along with executive producer Alex Kurtzman and director Olatunde Osunsanmi.
In the Section 31 movie, Yeoh reprises her Discovery role as Emperor Philippa Georgiou, who “joins a secret division of Starfleet. Tasked with protecting the United Federation of Planets, she also must face the sins of her past.” Section 31 also stars Omari Hardwick (Power), Kacey Rohl (Hannibal), Sam Richardson (Ted Lasso), Sven Ruygrok (One Piece), Robert Kazinsky (Pacific Rim), Humberly Gonzalez (Ginny & Georgia) and James Hiroyuki Liao (Barry).
The new teaser also revealed a first look at a young Philippa Georgiou, played by Miku Martineau (Kate).
Miku Martineau
Star Trek: Section 31 was written by Craig Sweeny and directed by Olatunde Osunsanmi. It will be available to stream exclusively on Paramount+ in the U.S. and in all international markets where the service is available. The movie is distributed by Paramount Global Content Distribution.
More Star Trek SDCC 2024
Check out our SDCC category for more from the Star Trek Universe panel, including announcements and reveals from Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks, and Starfleet Academy. And we will have more coverage of what was said at the panel later this weekend.
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Awesome can not wait this is going to a awesome fun Star Trek movie
Looks great. I love it when Trek tries something different and goes into a different story telling direction. Not every Trek show or movie has to be set on board a ship and exploring planets imo.
There is so much in the Trek universe that we don’t get to see. I feel a different take on Trek like this Section 31 TV movie (and hopefully more movies like this) will explore those different aspects.
I’ve always wanted a Trek show/movie that didn’t have a ‘Starfleet’ crew in it (We sort of got that in Prodigy) so hopefully this will give us a good look at those different aspects.
I agree with you 1000% 👍🏾
I can’t wait to see them try actual Star Trek storytelling, as far l can see only Picard season 3 managed to do it right. Everything else was greatly wattered down. Maybe some SNW episodes came close, but the dancing Klingons ruined it,….
I really couldn’t tell it was Star Trek from the trailer. Just looked like some other sci-fi.
Yeah the influences of Suicide Squad and even Guardians of the Galaxy were definitely present in that teaser. I can tell the studio etc wanted to tell a VERY different story in the Starfleet universe. Which is fine but this teaser didn’t get me as excited as the other ones. My expectations are quite low for this one though. That doesn’t mean I won’t watch it….I will but it’s definitely not a teaser that pulls me in. It’s more of the Star Trek name.
I’m glad we are seeing different aspects of the Trek i believe it will give us a fresh perspective of the Trek universe.
Since Discovery ended I haven’t felt excited for new episodes of Trek as the current shows like SNW don’t reach the level of enjoyment that Discovery has given me as a Life Long Trekkie.
But the Section 31 film and Starfleet Academy has been hopefully for the future of the franchise.
Completely agree! SNW and Lower Decks are my current favs but it’s nice we are getting a large selection of Star Trek to appeal to different fans. It’s a good time to be us! Then again I remember when we had nothing for decades!
It seems like all the new stuff is camp and comedy now and they are running as fast as they can from making any serious Star Trek.
That’s a good thing.
looks like a bad Syfy Channel movie of the week, if this is the movie they’re hoping launches a ton of new Trek streaming movies then they’re out of their minds
Agreed it looks horrible
I thought this had to do with the Enterprise-C and Rachel Garrett?
Not Enterprise C. This Rachel Garret is much younger.
Is that Garrett who says “Starfleet is here to make sure no one commits murder”?
it is and you see her later on in a group shot wearing some kind of tactical gear without the blue wig
Good question but not sure. Could be?
Edit: Should’ve scrolled down farther but Michael answered your question lol.
It will be a totally different character with the same name. You can tell by actor’s affect that she will lack the earnestness and sincerity of the original character. Terrible.
Can you, though?
I’m in that boat as well.
Agree 1000%
My immediate response is one of revulsion — I absolutely loathed this whole vibe, and how ‘Cyberpunk 2077’ it feels. That would usually be my jam, but as Star Trek…? Come on, what the hell? :P
That said, I’m more than willing to give a much longer, less teasing trailer a shot. Wouldn’t be the first time something good was hamstrung by a bad trailer (see also Star Trek Beyond). Here’s hoping.
So true about teasers! The studio no doubt paid a lot of money to film this movie and they clearly need a return investment on it. They probably picked the most “universal” elements they could in order to try convince more people to tune in next year.
My imm reaction to this was I wish the GOF was real so I can go back in time and unsee this.
Yes. My first thought was that this was the Star Trek Beyond trailer, part deux.
agreed, STB was much better than the trailer. i just don’t like mirror Georgiou, she’s way to campy
That was, um, interesting… Super glad this ended up just being a movie and not an entire series. I’ll of course check it out, because all things Trek, but damn does it look not great.
If this was a show then it would be time to fire Kurtzman and I have defended him over the years but this is just bad on a level I can’t fully express.
I’m kinda hoping this was just a bad trailer, similar to how the first trailer for Beyond was pretty horrendous.
Yeah that Beyond trailer was so terrible it almost kept me going to see the movie. I did see it but only with a free ticket. If it wasn’t for that I would’ve waited until it hit Netflix or something.
At least no one has to go to the theaters to see this junk. Maybe it will be good like Beyond turned out to be bit it’s still made by the people who made Discovery and not off to a great first impression. 🙄
Beyond I found mildly enjoyable but irritating in it being a soft reboot and dropping all the setup from Into Darkness. It was kind of meh not bad, but not exciting entry. A snooze for general audiences.
For me STID was the worst Trek movie ever, and I was very glad they dropped all references to its terrible plot and decisions.
I don’t care what general audiences thought about Beyond, it was the best of the JJ movies and (probably not coincidentally) the most TOS-like.
I’ve been saying it’s long past time to fire Kurtzman and everyone he personally hired. This trailer just gets added to the mountain for reasons for it.
What in the holy hell was that???
I’m sorry but this looks excruciatingly bad. I saw people commenting on the trailer on Reddit and most didn’t like it and so it kept my expectations lower but seriously even with that it just felt awful.
If we didn’t know the name of this movie was Section 31 you would certainly never known it from this trailer. It barely looks like Star Trek in general.
Of course it’s just a teaser trailer but people are going to rip into this thing on the level of that first Beyond trailer all those years ago. Sorry but what were they thinking?
They seem to be going for a Suicide Squad/Guardians of the Galaxy vibe with this.
Yeah, but it would’ve been nice they threw in some more Star Trek as well.
And the 21st century dialogue is just eye rolling for me. When the character refer to Georgiou as a ‘bad bitch’ I nearly died inside. I’m guessing ‘girl boss’ will be worked in the movie somewhere.
Agreed. Looks bad, but maybe someone will like it. I still hold out hope for good Star Trek soon.
I’m hoping I will like the final product but this was an awful first impression and I been very supportive of the movie.
But I guess I just had a very different image of what a Section 31 movie would be. Georgiou walking around in a party dress wasn’t it.
You got no taste
But you got no manners, which, to be honest, is actually worse, as decency is a human quality that is apparently lacking or at least MIA.
Ok Boomer
So says the soft middle-aged man trying to act edgy to fit in with the cool kids.
I’m young at heart and I going to live forever.
What did you think of it Kmart? If you remotely liked it it’s confirmed I woke up in the Mirror Universe lol.
I only watched it once, with the sound off and not full-screen, so the impact was probably blunted for me. Mainly I just thought the makeup was terrible and that it showed me nothing I wanted to see, so you’re still in the prime verse, no worries.
Lol good to know. I’ve seen it multiple times and it only gets worse for me.
I just watched it fullscreen with sound, along with the SNW one. The SNW thing was just cringe-worthy in a sad but expected way, but this thing seems absolutely moronic.
My wife looked at me after the s31 thing and said (slight paraphrase), ‘these people seem hell-bent on delivering everything that nobody ever wanted to see on Star Trek, while missing out on what made the show work in the first place.’ (She also thinks Michelle got some terrible surgery and that, more than the makeup, contributes to how awful the character looks.)
Just for reference purposes, my wife is not really much of a trek fan, but she does absolutely love THIS SIDE OF PARADISE, MIRROR MIRROR, FAR BEYOND THE STARS and THE VISITOR. So taste-wise, she has it goin’ on.
Your wife is right, and this principle of being hell-bent on delivering what nobody ever wanted to see on Star Trek also applies to Star Wars.
Reddit isn’t know for being smart.
“isn’t know for being smart,” he says
I’ve only recently started checking out reddit, and was surprised to see how much good info is on it. Much better percentage of reliable info than, say, imdb was 20 years back, where you’d read nutso stuff, like that John Dykstra worked on 2001, even though he’d have been in high school and on a different continent at that time. (And Titan Books STAR WARS mags from several years back were still using that as a source, as at least two of them ALSO claimed Dykstra worked on 2001.)
Absolutely. Once you get past the memes and polls and people coming in to ask the same questions over and over, things really are quite informative and often backed up by proper receipts. Or there’s a proper fact-checking debate for any assertions.
Trek should be flexible to be about more than impeccable Starfleet crews. Whether this embraces enough of the Star Trek ethos remains to be seen, but it’s a good cast and the production values are again excellent. Osunsanmi’s direction is still a little too flashy for the sake of being flashy for me, but it promises not to be boring!
I’m certainly happy you’re more positive about it than me Ian. It could be great but this trailer left a bad taste in my mouth personally. Like the taste of acid.
The song choice was jarring.
Ok Boomer
There are ways to convey an opposing opinion without resorting to childish mockery. Learn them or stop replying to my posts.
But this is more fun and it gets the point across. This place is feeling more like a GOP rally filled with people afraid of change.
Only feels that way when people like you get rude just like at a GOP rally. And you’re antagonizing someone who is not actively dismissing this movie. It’s trolling, it’s uncalled for, and I am politely asking that you cut it out or else stop responding to my posts.
Well I’m going to donate more money to VP Harris now.
Wish I could believe you — then again, dems, unlike the lower forms, might actually have standards about who they’ll take money from.
What goes, is this guy mod-proof? Why isn’t he/she long gone from here with these countless and pointless snipes?
I’m a positive person.
Ugh…yeah.
A very well worded opinion that I share. This is indeed very flashy and quite opposite to the classic old school Trek that I prefer, but this doesn’t mean it would automatically be bad. I’m definitely curious to see how it turns out.
I do think Star Trek has done action rather well over the years. It’s an important part of the franchise and always has been, regardless of how cerebral the shows can lean. Since 2009 there’s been the danger that this and style over substance showy camera tricks will be prioritized too much, but there’s still a visceral thrill to seeing Trek get a big budget and actors kicking some butt in a familiar universe. I’m happy to keep an open mind, change is inevitable and can lead to great things. We won’t know until this airs, so I’ll be right there with you pondering what this means.
You’re right it could be good but this trailer has done it a few favors.
I’ll certainly watch it but I’m not going to pay anything extra for it if people say it sucks either.
“Trek should be flexible to be about more than impeccable Starfleet crews.”
Why? A big part of the attraction was seeing competent people doing their jobs well and engaging in teamwork.
I’ve read that United Airlines used TNG was an example of good cockpit resource mangement (CRM) and that the Air Force and/or Navy have done the same. Does anyone think they’d think about showing this dreck, or indeed any NuTrek, as examples of good leadership in real life?
As the entire audience of Star Trek is not limited to only US military personnel and commercial airline pilots, I prefer to keep an open mind until this airs.
Awful would be an understatement
I’m sorry, but this looks atrociously bad. WTF is going on with Star Trek?
Star Trek’s future was never supposed to be fixated on this dystopian Blade Runner vision that seems to be popular with the current people in charge. It’s the complete opposite of what was imagined to be achieved in the future.
the underground world of characters like harry mudd and quark has been a part of ST for decades, but the hopeful positive aspects always shine through in the end.
You need to get out more.
Same thing as what’s going on generally in Hollywood for the past 5 years…
Putting aside any preconceived notions about What Star Trek should be, and viewing it solely on its own merit, that was one of the worst trailers I’ve seen in a long time.
Yeah.
I don’t care much since it’s a one-off. But my interest just plummeted until further notice.
My only hope for this movie had been that it might turn out to be a refutation of DIS’s entire portrayal of S31. That we might get an actual redemption of Georgiou story and one that destroyed/sent underground this heinous version of S31. But now those hopes have been dashed and this trailer (unless against all logic and reason it turns out to be entirely unrepresentative of the actual movie) suggests to me this movie will likely be as bad as STID (for me) and as with that movie I will probably watch S31 once and never wish to see it again.
A sad day for me, but this eventuality was not unexpected.
It’s just trying WAY too hard to be ‘cool’.
What does that even mean? Face it man, Star Trek has grown up and left you behind. I’m loving this Trek.
Glad you enjoyed it. Take it easy.
Star Trek has grown up, quit school, is unemployed and unemployable, got into drugs and living under a bridge.
Accurate!
It needs an intervention.
It’s hilarious how hard they are trying to make this like Marvel as if anyone under 40 will care about this.
It’s JJ verse all over again. They pushed away old fans to try and get the teenagers into Star Trek by trying to turn that into Marvel and Star Wars and in the end both sides stopped caring.
This thing is going to die a quick death if the movie is anything like this horrific trailer.
Thank God it’s just a movie now because it will be very easy to move on if it sucks.
What I been seeing online are people saying this looks like a desperate attempt to pander to younger audiences. I don’t know how much I agree with that but we all know Star Trek has an aging problem and doing everything possible to appeal their shows to younger people.
I just don’t know if this is the way either. And while people love Michelle Yeoh she is still an older actress that I don’t think people in their 20s and 30s follow unless they always been a fan of hers. In other words I don’t see young people watching this just because they know who she is.
But same time this is a one off streaming movie and probably not very expensive so they want to experiment a little and see who else they can attract.
End of the day it’s their money and they know a certain percentage of fans will watch this no matter what.
But if the movie itself is just bad it’s not going to do them any favors either; especially when so many fans were already skeptical of it.
I don’t understand this obsession with pandering to young people. They are so poor and don’t watch movies and series content. They are into gaming and youtube. Older people actually have money and an attention span.
To be honest I don’t understand the obsession with it today either, at least with Star Trek and where it’s at now. I mean as fans we just want to see newer generations find it and pass it on to new audiences and not just slowly whither away when fewer people are watching it because they are literally dying out.
But for corporations and studios who produce Star Trek obviously it’s just about merchandising and ad buys with the idea younger people are easier to manipulate through advertising or more prone to buy things. But in the world of streaming where commercials are optional to even have and Star Trek itself just being a lot more niche today, what exactly is the advantage of an 18 year old watching it versus a 50 year old?
That’s a very hazy picture to me too because it’s not like the 70-90s where ads were literally selling you Star Trek toys and games in the commercials. That market has all but dried up now. If you were an 18 year old and watching TNG back then, there were just more traditional targeting advertising out there. And the fact that they were making commercials for video games, models, clothes etc just had a bigger impact. That’s how you know more kids were watching Star Trek back then because the advertising was for kids through young adults.
But if an 18 year old today is new to Star Trek and watch SNW for example, there are no toys, books or even T-shirts on a mass level to buy anything for that show. There is nothing sitting at the mall anymore. Even online what’s out there is very little and ironically it’s mostly geared to older collectors with deep pockets and a long history with the show. I saw a set of limited edition custom made Star Trek watches on another site that do look amazing but they are around $950 a piece.
I mean who is that geared to; the 18 old whose been watching Star Trek for a year now or the 50 year old whose been watching it for 30 years and has the cash to spend? Most of the stuff online today that sites like this help promote is stuff out of the league for most people, certainly teenagers. You want a EXO Christopher Pike figure, you can pick one up for just $200. It’s cheaper than the watch at least.
So yeah, why the need to target younger people for Star Trek when it’s clearly not even much of a marketing or product industry for them anymore like say Marvel or Harry Potter, you got me.
And sadly Prodigy proved just how hard it is to crack that in terms of both young demographics and merchandising.
Wait… there are still malls? Do teens even go to them anymore? The last time I went in one, it seemed like it was 90% athletic shoe stores. No book stores, no video stores, no music stores. I’m not sure where you’d expect to find Trek merchandise these days.
Not much call for malls in America anymore. It’s all online.
Asia though… malls for days.
That’s the issue there is no Trek merchandise in store these days and mostly online.
But actually teenagers still go to malls, at least here in LA because it’s still a social spot to meet up to eat, see movies etc. My brother used to own a few businesses in them and plenty of kids came through. But no it’s not like the 80s or 90s anymore either. But it’s still a place people can go and walk around for free with air conditioning lol.
And yeah very sad bookstores don’t exist in them anymore where nerds like me used to spend a lot of time in.
I was thinking about the merch when I wrote my other reply too. Again, TOS and TNG didn’t dumb things down for kids but also didn’t make it impossible for them to watch. I don’t know how many kids watch SNW. It’s not a TV-MA show (I guess Gorn episodes push the limits a bit), but it’s also not really doing a lot that would inspire kids to reenact scenes on the playground, either, nor want to buy any toys.
Yeah good points. And obviously I have no idea how many kids are watching shows like SNW today but my only guess is nowhere near what TOS, TNG and the other shows were getting watched because as stated all of those had committed toy lines and games.
Not today unfortunately. But I’m pretty sure more kids are watching SNW over Discovery at least lol.
Young audiences are fickle, and are probably wise to when they are being pandered to. TOS-ENT never pandered. Even the kid characters don’t really come across as desperate attempts to get a YA audience to watch.
And yes, Discovery I would imagine is hard to watch with kids. You probably just have to start with season 3 and that’s confusing. Everyone parents differently and people know their own kids better than anyone else could, but season 1 of Disco is really hard for me to imagine watching with anyone under 12.
I think an overt play for the youth crowd is inherently risky as it could backfire. What made Trek work in the past was the four quadrant appeal. It was always able to be enjoyed as a family show. I suppose Enterprise and PG-13 films pushed the envelope a little, but generally you could get kids watching with their parents and they could enjoy the aliens, action, humor and general thrust of the drama at even somewhat younger ages.
That’s been out the window for most of these new shows. Discovery and Picard came out of the gate as TV-MA, and Lower Decks is more for older kids who could watch The Simpsons/Rick and Morty. SNW and Prodigy are the closest we have to that sweet spot for family-friendly appeal. Prodigy tries to straddle the line in an interesting new way – most of the kid characters do still feel like broad kid characters, but the plots are fairly sophisticated.
To me it just feels like the best idea to play the long game again with this audience. Encourage family viewing, get the kiddos into Trek that way, let them grow up and renew the cycle. That doesn’t mean not doing a show like Picard that’s squarely for older adults or SFA which is tossing in a legacy actor and some Oscar winners and nominees for the older crowd while clearly gunning for the YA one. But Trek was sustained by a steadfast broad appeal which didn’t condescend to kids but also never excluded them. It’s still a risk to go outside those lines.
I’d say it’s a desperate attempt to pander to what some executives *think* younger audiences want — not what they actually want.
100% agree with this as well.
Actually looks like a lot of fun!
I can’t wait.
Ok, Alex.
Young Georgiou is gorgeous… but this trailer doesn’t pull me in, I am sorry to say. It might make a good Guardians of the Galaxy movie, but it doesn’t seem like Star Trek. Still, I’ll reserve judgment until it airs. I’ve been proven wrong before.
Yep fully agree. But of course it’s just a trailer so we’ll see. But man this looks bad.
Michelle Yeoh played Captain Georgiou so well. As Mirror Georgiou, it’s just insipid.
Not the least bit surprised that this looked and sounded the way it did. Awful and unoriginal. Trying very hard to be something it’s not.
And what should it be? Long scenes of boring dialogue?
How about any scenes of good dialog? I am not detecting any good dialog in this trailer, captain!
Fully agree sadly. And not surprising it’s being ripped in the video’s comment section.
“Trying very hard to be something it’s not.”
What is it trying to be, and what is it?
I love it. So Awesome. I wouldn’t be surprised if a spinoff show comes from this.
Whatever this was…
Ye gads, the makeup on these people! Not doing Ms. Yeoh any favors at all.
The movie takes place in the lost era. Just a few years after TOS. Did you see the makeup on that show?
There was also a ton of thick diffusion on the lens for those makeups, but I don’t see anything like that softening the blow with s31 looks. (my wife thinks Yeoh must not have been looking in the mirror and stupidly got some work done as well, which isn’t helping.)
This looks impossibly stupid. Congrats to whoever it’s for.
Haters got to hate.
Congratulations on getting what you wanted.
I want it all !
Ummmm … is that one dude that’s part of their crew supposed to be part-Borg?
Because if that’s what they were going for, it looks incredibly stupid.
Lol I hope not. And they been doing a great job with the look of the Borg on the other shows. This looks like a cheap cosplay.
I doubt it is a Borg. If Rachel Garrett is in this, then this should be long before the Borg.
The dude is augmented with implants. Looks cool.
That’s Rob Kazinsky. He noted on social media that he’s not playing a Borg.
Bit of a Star Trek Renegades vibe but with a bigger budget. That’s not a compliment as I was not a fan of that fan production.
Are they trying to kill Star Trek?
Well a sitcom was just announced so….
Boomers can’t keep trek alive. We need fresh blood. That’s why Academy and Section 31 is the future.
On the contrary… they honestly believe they’re saving it. I liked s03 of Picard a lot, liked some of SNW, still have hopes for Academy despite the Discovery dumpster fire, had *very* high hopes for S31, but this trailer has me shocked tbh.
Looks that way – I’m not spending another penny on Paramount until Kurtzman and his cronies are gone.
Sure. We all know you’ll be watching. 🤣🤣
We are here because nobody watched Enterprise or Nemesis and Star Trek died. Then JJ brought it back in a way people found unrecognizable, and then his protege took over the tv streaming franchise. Berman Trek is dead and Kurtzman Trek is the only Trek. I do wish they would make legacy but it’s like they want Star Trek to be a cartoon/Sitcom all the time. With crude jokes and Zoomer humor.
The era of serious Star Trek seems to be over. I saw none offered in all of these reveals and I don’t want to encourage them by watching any of it. I might watch after the viewing metrics won’t matter very much.
Serious?
ST should never be po faced and ‘serious’
People keep saying Berman Trek is dead and yet most of the new shows and returning characters are all based on Berman Trek so what am I missing?
They just brough tthe Doctor back for a new show that takes place 800 years in the future. Discovery last season was built around a 30 year old TNG episode The Chase. So was LDS last season now that I’m thinking about it lol with Nick Larcano and The First Duty. Prodigy’s two seasons revolved around Janeway saving Chakotay and bringing Wesley into the mix. And I don’t have to mention Picard obviously.
Now we have a new comedy show that will take place in the 25th century and I’m pretty sure that is going to be filled with all the inside jokes, cameos and references as we been getting with LDS. Could I be wrong, yeah, but since the show is being made by two unabashed TNG ultra fans and one already works on LDS I’m pretty sure I’m not; and probably why the show is based in that period and not the 26th century or something to take advantage of those legacy characters and storylines.
My only point is if they moved on from Berman Trek, why is all these shows minus SNW all focused around Berman Trek characters, storylines and callbacks?
Who exactly is all this stuff aimed for?
It certainly isn’t for NEW fans unless people think 30+ year old characters and storylines are meant to appeal ti them.
Kurtzman Trek is basically using Berman Trek to keep old fans coming back.
It just reminds me when Disney bought Star Wars and people said the Prequel ers was ‘dead’ meaning they thought Disney was just going to look forward and that stuff would just be deep in the background that you may catch as an Easter egg or reference a name somewhere. And now the last 5 years have been Prequel heavy with returning characters and storylines like never before. I guess don’t understand when people say an era is ‘dead’ when they keep returning to it in new content?
If they really moved on we wouldn’t be reminded of it on every new show.
Or maybe you just mean the more serious minded and intellectual tone of Berman Trek is dead and not its canon aspects? If so, then sadly yes, you could be right.
It would be inaccurate to say no one watched ENT. It would be more accurate to say that Paramount decided to picot, to change UPN’s target audience and adjust its programming accordingly.
I still believe way more people watched Enterprise than Discovery but as we know streaming is just a different animal.
J J went back to the OS era, a time many still remember as iconic of ST as a whole.
and so did Disc as ST returned to tv.
Yes, they are.
I’ve always wanted a Section 31 show… now it’s a movie, and it looks like Amazon’s “Citadel” in space. I’ve always envisioned an S31 show to be a mysterious, dark, somber, deep spy drama… more like AMC’s “Rubicon” in space. But this teaser makes it look like total trash. Our franchises have become dumpster fires. Maybe numb nuts will like it, dunno.
Exactly. This is what kills me, when they introduced them on Discovery people hated the approach they went with them but they kept defending it saying whenever we get the show it will gel closer to what we got in DS9.
Looking at this thing it couldn’t be any farther off. It looks so ridiculous and silly. Section 31 is dangerous, menacing, intimidating and obviously mysterious. This looks like a bunch of kids playing spies with horribly contemporary dialogue and silly antics.
Does this group feel the least bit dangerous or mysterious?
If this was what the show was supposed to be I see why it was ultimately canceled.
It did not get canceled it changed to a streaming movie cause of yeoh’s schedule cause she still wanted to make a section 31 entry with her character
When they announced this movie they specifically said they decided it already too many shows on to do a S31 show so it was canceled.
And this movie is only happening because Yeoh really wanted to do it.
Good. Looking at this they dodged a major bullet trying to turn this mess into a show.
I agree. Thinking about it further, I can’t contemplate how anyone could see the organization portrayed here (and in DIS) could be the same as in DS9. They are nothing alike. DS9’s was serious and effective, and rightly condemned by our heroes as wrong. This S31 seems to be the perfect antithesis of all of that earlier version. It just doesn’t make sense to me.
But then again, not immediately greenlighting Legacy when it has been the most well-received (by existing fans) concept to come out of modern Trek since SNW was previewed in DIS s2, is another business decision I can’t understand Paramount making. So to with shelving PRO and cancelling LDS. (And the returns are still out on Academy and the live-action sitcom concept.)
Exactly. Can you see Sloan being in the same group with THESE people? I’m thinking he would kill them all himself and recruit real officers. It just doesn’t fit at all, at least based on the little we seen.
As for Legacy my guess is it’s probably a money issue more than anything. Maybe I could be wrong and they just don’t want to do it. But I can’t for the life of me figure out why they think Legacy would be a bad idea that fans have been begging for more than they did SNW; but yet we have stuff like this and the new comedy show which most fans seem to be hating or at least questioning those choices? I can’t wrap my head around it at all.
Nearly all feature franchises seem to fall into this, too. I mean, MI-5/SPOOKS was flourishing earlier this century, for a decade, and yet the Bond films have been done with horrid insipid scripts — and I do mean all of the, CR has a 30 something ‘rookie’ Bond who acts like a 20 year-old brat when he loses, and he gets all his leads from dead people’s cellphones who if they were really professional would have kept all this secret data in their heads — when they could have been exploiting the better talent pool on the tube.
I always hoped s31 would be 8 parts LeCarre and 2 parts TOS-optimism, but in order for that to happen, Ron Moore would have to be running things.
John Le Carré. With Kurtzman in charge.
Good one.
bond in CR has just become a OO and is not the seasoned professional of the other movies so is bound to make mistakes and not handle things well at first.
A 38 year-old rookie, nuh-uh. Now if they’d cast Cavill, it MIGHT have worked, but Craig was WAY too old to be credible in this way (and for me, way too ugly to be considered for any role in a Bond film except villain’s 2nd henchman.) Even people who adore CR usually admit that Bond origins aspect is among the weakest in this massively overrated bore.
Many didn’t mind as Craig’s era as OO7 made $4 billion + at the box office, out gunning Bourne and M:I
I haven’t loved a Bond movie since Dalton’s tenure, but at least the Brosnan films were somewhat recognizably Bond. That’s why I’m amazed that anybody who liked the books could buy into Craig for even an instant. Apart from the looks issue, his portrayal is miles from Fleming, and I think he hurt things beyond what was bad on the page.
My 2nd memory in life is seeing GOLDFINGER in the theater before I turned 4 years old, so when I say it took Craig to turn me off seeing Bond movies in the theater, I’m talking about him destroying damn near 50 years of interest that spanned making my own Bond spoofs in Super-8 and relishing the Barry scores. The fact most of the planet fell for it does nothing to elevate it in my viewpoint, anymore than the fact that many top-grossing movies are virtually unwatchable.
brosnan era the only one to not draw from the books and were using the formula from the past films.
though they were more fun than the craig era.
but the recent OO7 films have kept the franchise at the top of hollywood’s big earners so if not such a bad thing.
Not gonna lie. Not my cup of earl grey. Hoping to be surprised. I get it Section 31 = stealth, black ops, spy thriller vibes. But it just doesn’t leave me feeling good. And why do we continue to have the modern day cursing “you’re a bad b&$ch.” Like really? Can we come up with useful ways to use cursing if we are going to use it at all?
This is not your great grandfathers star trek!
Well, I am going to watch it. But the trailer makes it look bad (and not bad in a good way). A lot is due to the music(?) used in the trailer.
My own STAR TREK ‘canon’ for a re-watch every few years purely consists of ‘The Cage’ storyline to kick things off with the vibe I prefer….followed by my favourite particular TOS episodes in ‘production order’ (excluding the 2-part ‘The Menagerie’ storyline, seeing as I begin with the ‘The Cage’)….followed by all the TOS-cast movies (ending with ‘The Undiscovered Country’, and excluding ‘Generations’)….followed by a handful of my favourite Next Gen episodes….then wrap things up with the Next Gen-cast ‘First Contact’ movie’s meeting with the Vulcans to bring things full-circle as my conclusion for a satisfying send-off for both crews.
That’s all the STAR TREK I ever needed in my ‘Prime timeline’, and everything else have been superfluous, second-rate, or best-forgotten duds to me. I just imagine these particular shows and movies as individual ‘Elseworlds’ productions, separate from my own preferred entries….just as James Gunn and DC are doing with their rebooted superhero franchise, ha.
However, out of morbid interest (and because I like Michelle Yeoh), I’ll give this a watch when it comes along….but just going by some of the ‘dire’logue in this teaser, I’ve no doubt that it will be added to my own ever-lengthening ‘watch-once-only’ list of ‘Star Trek’ offerings.
As Mariner might say, damn bro.
I admire your effort to keep star trek ‘pure’, but why not include the critically lauded/fan loved Picard s3 in your preferred ‘prime timeline’? Or would that create too much conflict/issue? (probably have to include Nemesis and some Picard s1 I guess? And then it would mess up your perfect star trek ‘full circle’ ending/beginning of First Contact). also no Ent s4? (at least the mirror eps) but then you’d be getting away from the purity of keeping it just TOS/TNG based .. It also vexes me slightly you left out Generations considering its such a big important event movie in the canon .. however I understand as if you take it out then TOS ends with VI which was a great send off and has just enough foreshadowing to TNG without being a full (awkward) crossover, and Kirks fate is left to mystery, (which is probably how it should’ve been). And I guess ST09 would be a big no no for you to include for similar reasons lol
@ flaming photon torpedo of truth – since you put so much thought into that, I’ll take the time to elaborate on a few things for you.
You already correctly mentioned a few of the reasons yourself, but exact, in-depth explanations for why I don’t care for specific ‘Star Trek spin-offs, sequels, and continuations’ would take hours to cover.
However, the MAIN reason for excluding those is because they simply wouldn’t give me enough satisfaction or fun to re-watch them ever again….despite being classed as ‘official canon’
Sure, certain shows and movies and episodes have been made and will always exist as ‘official canon’, and those that like those storylines are welcome to them. But they just don’t appeal to me, as I’ll never re-watch Kirk die on the wrong ‘bridge’ in ‘Generations’….or endure the ‘Discovery’ show and it’s ‘burn’ storyline again (or anything referencing that), for instance.
I just like what I like, simple as that, and everything else is effectively the equivalent of ‘Expanded Universe fan-fiction’ as far as I’m concerned.
And I do exactly the same kind of ‘editing down’ with any re-watches of certain other ‘franchises’ I happen to like too – my preferred STAR WARS ‘saga’ begins with the stardestroyer chasing the blockade runner ‘mid-adventure’….and ends with the ‘yub nub’ celebrations on Endor, no follow-ups required thanks….and my INDIANA JONES re-watches conclude with him riding off into the sunset with his dad and two chums, period!, just as two examples, although there are plenty more!
Everyone is welcome to do something similar, whatever way they ‘re-organise’ their own favourites….but if some choose to ‘love it all’ concerning certain never-ending franchises,then good luck to them too.
While the likes of ‘Starfleet Academy’ is unlikely to enter my own ‘canon’ either, lol, I’m sure it will have it’s fans along the way. Thankfully, I’m content with the amount of particular STAR TREK I already have and happen to like, so no worries here….until something else appears that my pique my interest too.
I remain a huge fan of STAR TREK….just not all of it.
Live long and prosper.
For me all live action shows are canon,except of “Discovery”. I have troubles with the prequel “Enterprise” although I do like some episodes. I find “Picard” hard to accept as canon, it is a badly written show, including the “fan loved” 3rd seaon.
@ G.G.Hoffmann – ‘Like what you like, and simply disregard anything that irritates you’ will always be my advice where ongoing ‘franchise’ content is concerned, no matter the ‘franchise’. Life’s too short to re-watch anything that vexes you.
By the way, I meant to add that in addition to my own live-action ‘Prime timeline’ selection which I outlined above….I also appreciate the ‘Star Trek: The Animated Show’ storylines for a little ‘Expanded Universe’ TOS-crew flavour too.
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Correction – The Animated Series
Looks dreadful! I’m all for exploring the different aspects of the Star Trek universe, if done in a clever thoughtful way. This just looks like a Mission Impossible in space, anyone can write this rubbish.
That guys’ yellow eyes screamed Chameloid to me.
He screamed GEORDIE to me, but maybe you’re right…
Same thought I had – it looked more like the ocular implants.
Bro this looks utterly dire. This looks like something produced by RuPaul, not Star Trek. Adolf prancing around in a prom dress with everyone talking like they are in some club on Melrose is bizarre.
I was excited when I heard Rachel Garret was going to be in this now I’m back to hating it. If it wasn’t for the news the Doctor was coming back in SFA and that awesome LDS trailer I would be fuming right now.
instead I’m just confused how this a thing?
Holy shit that looked terrible (to no one surprise)
Are you kidding me?!!!!! Fuck ya
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That was supreme trash. It’s bad enough It’s starring the space Nazi but I was hoping it resembled Star Trek at least. I have no idea what I just watched but it wasn’t Star Trek.
Won’t be wasting my time on this. Section 31 should’ve just stayed on DS9 and Enterprise when they had real writers making these shows.
A bad trailer doesn’t mean the end product will be bad. But I went from this is a terrible idea, to intrigued with the casting and now I’m back to its a terrible idea. If it’s free with plus I will watch it, if it is premium price I will pass.
Everything I feared and more. Who gave the garbage the green light?
I’m not sure who the audience is supposed to be for this. It looks like a bad comic book movie.
The hope, obviously, is that people who use TikTok will somehow hear through the grapevine that someone in a trailer said “bad bitch” and will then embrace this movie as though life itself depends upon it. This will result in everyone — and especially influencers — between the ages of 13 and 25 turning into Trekkies overnight.
Seems unlikely to work.
How sad… that you’re 100% correct in your assessment.
I know exactly who the audience is supposed to be for this, and I’ll leave it at that.
A future 5/10 on IMDB movie.
That’s generous.
Interesting concepts! I do hope the music and some of that mood is just for the trailer. But it really looks like they should be making a few of these.
We can all be grateful this didn’t become a full length series. A once off movie spared us a lot of pain.
Fully agree on that. Thank Kahless or people would be in even more of an uproar now. I personally hasn’t been this put off by a Star Trek trailer since Beyond’s first teaser trailer.
And this was what I was most excited to see if it got released this weekend.
Totally agree Dvorak. What on earth is going on. This looks like a franchise (it least in terms of live action series) that is going off the rails.
This looks abysmal.
Also: “Academy Award Winning Actress”? Why not just “Academy Award Winner”?
Ok cut the bs.
There are actors and actresses.
She is an actress. What is wrong with calling her an award winning actress?
If nothing else, it’s grammatically unnecessary to genderize that phrase and make it longer. Is there anyone in the entire world who isn’t aware that Michelle Yeoh is a woman? No, there isn’t. So you say “Academy Award Winner Michelle Yeoh.” Short, impactful. Just like when you say “Academy Award Winner Tom Hanks” or “Academy Award Winner John Williams” or “Academy Award Winner Louise Fletcher,” etc. I don’t recall anyone at any time saying, for example, “Academy Award Winning Actor Jack Nicholson.” Why would you? That’s dumb.
So why do it with Michelle Yeoh? It makes no sense.
The movie looks like cat pickles anyways, though, so I guess I ought not care.
Looks utterly horrendous on every level!
Okay, Suicide Squad meet Quentin Tarantino…not your daddy’s Star Trek movie…
Literally nothing about this looks Tarantino-esque.
Shallow.
My goodness me. Perhaps I’m just too old for Star Trek now. That looked absolutely awful. In retrospect It was perhaps unfortunate that I watched this and then the SNW extended clip which I found to be cheesy, hammy and major cringe. Not sure if I had gotten to SNW first my view would have been different but I came away for these previews quite disillusioned with how the franchise is currently being handed. How about intelligent sci-fi stories written by great sci-fi novelists as was done back on TOS or am I being too old fashioned.
Not to pile on, but not only does it look unrecognizable, but it doesn’t even look compelling or creative. Still, I’m looking forward to a fun breezy Star Trekish romp, and hope there is more to it than this teaser. But since teasers typically have the best parts of a movie, it’s usually pretty easy to judge if this is going to be any good…and it’s probably not.
Ummm… no. The person that selected the music should be fired. That was awful and didn’t spark interest in seeing it at all. If anything, it took away whatever interest I did have in seeing it in the first place. I DO agree that it will be nice to see some of the Star Trek universe that isn’t Starfleet, but one of the PRIMARY tenants of Star Trek was that humans had evolved past the point of all of this violent nonsense. As a species, we had “grown up”. This looks like it not only strips away all of that, but takes a huge dump all over it. If you want to do this kind of story, that’s totally fine, but don’t call it Star Trek…
Strange New Worlds should be getting all this money. Sorry. This trailer looks awful.
Or how about ST: Legacy?
This.
The best new Trek has hands down been Strange New Worlds and Picard S3. Nobody was asking for a spin off of Discovery, a comedy, etc. . . Let’s bring on Legacy already!!!
I like Michelle. Thought everything everywhere all at once was a fine motion picture so was willing to have an open mind. But Jesus H Christ this just looks some bizarre Trek fever dream. What the actual hell did I just watch?
I am intrigued. This could be interesting. Where is Ash Tyler?
Wasn’t impressed with the trailer, but that’s my age showing. The idea of a “Section 31” in Starfleet isn’t that funny, so I’m hoping that the trailer is just an enticement for the Gen Z demo to have a look. I expect it will be some serious Star Trek.
It isn’t your age showing, it’s your standards showing.