The shortest segment of the Star Trek Universe at San Diego Comic-Con was for the upcoming Star Trek: Starfleet Academy series. In addition to announcing four legacy stars added to the cast, the executive producers offered some insights into how this is a different kind of Star Trek show.
Hunter hype and crying Giamatti
Showrunners Alex Kurtzman and Noga Landau were the sole participants for the Starfleet Academy series, which they confirmed would begin filming in August. Kurtzman said, “We start shooting very soon, and everybody’s now starting to arrive in Toronto.” He also kicked things off by highlighting the two big stars attached to the show, starting with hyping Holly Hunter as the Academy chancellor
Alex Kurtzman: Holly Hunter will be joining us as the chancellor of the school… Holly is unbelievable… For those of you who haven’t seen Raising Arizona, you need to leave here and go see her right away. For those of you who haven’t seen The Piano, she won an Oscar for it. I could go on and on, she is just incredible. And she’s going to be a very different kind of Chancellor and Captain.
Noga Landau at San Diego Comic-Con 2024 (Photo by Jon Kopaloff/Getty Images for Paramount+)
The pair then told the story of how Paul Giamatti was cast as the season 1 villain:
Alex Kurtzman: So this happened because he was doing press for The Holdovers, and when he was asked about the part that he would most want to play, he said, “I want to play a Klingon on Star Trek.”… So we called his agent and said, “Was that a thing he just said, was that a bit?”… And she called back and she said, “He’d love to sit down with you. We got on a Zoom with him and he cried. He was so excited at the prospect of playing in the world of Star Trek and he was talking about how meaningful it was him… It was just one of those moments where you’re like, “Oh, one of the greatest actors in the world, and he really wants to come join us.” So that was pretty amazing.
Noga Landau: He also chose which role he wanted to play. We came to him and we said, “You could be this guy or that guy, or that guy.” And he thought about it and he came back and told us that the part he plays is the one he wanted.
Alex Kurtzman: We thought it was going to be like one episode because his schedule is so busy, and he was like, “No, I want to play the villain.” We’re like, “That’s the whole season.” He was like, “Great, let’s do it!”
TrekMovie first reported that Giamatti expressed an interest in joining Star Trek back in 2011. He specifically said he wanted to play a Klingon, something he brought up again in an interview on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert in 2019, this time saying he was flexible and was open to playing a different alien. Earlier this year, friend of TrekMovie and Danish movie journalist Johan Albrechtsen used part of his The Holdovers junket interview with Giamatti to get him to do an “audition” for Star Trek, by having him recreate his famous “I am not drinking any f###ing Merlot!” moment from the 2004 wine-themed film Sideways in Klingon. It appears that got Alex Kurtzman’s notice. Here again, is that fun video from Moovy TV…
A “hybrid” format
The executive producer explained how they are approaching the show with a different format:
Alex Kurtzman: It’s a really exciting show for us, because, well I won’t give away too much about the show, but I do think that we’re kind of finding a new format which is interesting… Kind of a hybrid format, which I’m very excited about.
The panel also unveiled a video showing the young actors being cast as cadets, with Kurtzman revealing they only have one more part to fill. He also offered some insight into how they are shaping these cadet characters:
Alex Kurtzman: How long have we been talking about what it must be like in those hallowed halls. Who are the captains before they become captains? And who are the people who don’t become captains and the mistakes they can make and the vulnerabilities that they have that you don’t always see from people who are militarized and already in Starfleet? It’s a really pivotal point in everyone’s lives.
In case you missed it, here is that casting video for the new cadets…
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What the… I joked about it at the time and just thought it was an extremely funny coincidence, but my bit with Giamatti is seriously the thing that got him his ‘Star Trek’ part and realized his life-long dream! :-D I’m SO over the moon! Highlight of my life kind of stuff! God, I hope I get to interview him again about it someday!
And thank you SO much to TrekMovie and Anthony and everybody for sharing that video, because otherwise it certainly wouldn’t have been noticed by Kurtzman et. al. You made this happen too! Crazy stuff, guys. Now let’s hope they’ve actually cast him as a Klingon! :-D
Wow!
NO! We thank YOU!
This is so cool!! I bet that feels awesome! :-D
I became a father five months ago – this is definitely the second biggest achievement of my life! :-D
Congratulations on both!
How’s the diaper changing going? We had twins and after that, poop just doesn’t bother me anymore.
You should get a percentage. When the time comes for them to do press and we get to talk to him you know I’m going to bring this up. As I’m sure you will
I’d settle for a 0,7 seconds long walk-on part! :-D But seriously, THANKS Anthony! Looking forward to those interviews and the show!
So. Excited.
Happy about the casting but, just to add some longtime fan judgement: I sure hope they don’t use those awful Discovery uniforms.
I second that. They look incredibly uncomfortable. Looks like they’re made out of scuba gear material. Baggy and not fitting well at all.
They’re intended to look more futuristic than the old days of uniforms like the monster maroon’s, which I think were wool. lol
I like the 32nd century versions than I liked the 23rd century versions by a light year, but yeah you’re right both are pretty bad.
I just would love some continuity and uniformity for once. Not every season and every costume designer needs to come up with a new one. I hate that.
The only “benefit” you could say is that the past 7 years have given Trek fans an explosion of styles to cosplay, and I think that’s pretty cool. They’re certainly not all winners, and I think Disco has the worst uniforms of all the shows. I think my favorite was Picard S3: simple, clean, darker and more muted colors compared to their 90s counterparts, but still quite recognizably Star Trek. The 32nd century uniforms would not be recognized by the casual viewer as a Star Trek uniform.
That’s what happens in the real world. No organization that is still around has uniforms that look like they did 900 years ago; and there are only a few.
Q: But you can’t deny that you’re still a dangerous, savage child race.
PICARD: Most certainly, I deny it. I agree we still were when humans wore costumes like that, four hundred years ago, we were still making rapid progress.
Why a captain and not an admiral?
Why not.
How true.
The only other commanding officer of the Academy that we’ve seen on screen was an admiral.
Why…. NOT a captain?
Because there’s been a commanding officer of the academy on screen before, and that person was an admiral.
The superintendent of a military academy is generally of flag rank:
“The superintendent of the United States Air Force Academy is the senior officer and commander of the United States Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs, Colorado. The position is normally held by an active duty Air Force lieutenant general, and is roughly equivalent to the president of a university”
Like Admiral Brand.
Starfleet isn’t military..
Yes, it is.
Is it a multi-mission organization? Sure.
But you do not call on the National Institute of Health or the NASA to fight your wars.
Starfleet ships attack targets and Starfleet officers hit the ground to do the same.
That’s it. Starfleet fights the Federation’s wars. Starfleet is military.
Period.
You things go bad for admirals in ST.
Always keep your rank as captain
opps, typo-
You see how things go bad for admirals in ST.
Always keep your rank as captain
I hope someone from Paramount+ or Bad Robot or Skydance reads this: I will admit, I am not a fan of the new era of Star Trek content with the exception of Star Trek Prodigy (I love Star Trek Prodigy). And I very much liked the third season of Picard and most of the first season of Strange New Worlds. I do NOT want to be or sound mean or critical. No, not at all. I just want to say the following, regarding the news that this Starfleet Academy series will be a “new format”:
I am content to ignore the Star Trek that I do not like, but I really do WISH that in addition to the wildly unorthodox Star Trek series that have been produced since Discovery began that there would be at least ONE Star Trek series that was made in the vain and quality of Star Trek Enterprise, which I loved and was sad when it was cancelled.
I would love to see at least ONE new live-action series that is truly episodic with an enable cast that is written by actual science fiction writers, that does not have profanity in it, or sexually-orientated content, something is family friendly and conservative like the vast majority of the Rick Berman-era Star Trek. Just one series that is non-controversial or decisive. Just one series that is a well written series with a cast made of up of professionals in space. The best of the best, who earned their way to the newest and most advances starship in the fleet. Characters who are not “traumatized” or “relatable” to just some general audiences, but inspirational to all, because they are the best, like the crews of Enterprise NX-01, Deep Space Nine, and the Enterprise-D.
And have such a series also show us beautiful new starships like those made by the YouTube channels Alvision100 and Alfabia JS (check out their amazing work, it’s really good). If the goal is to make a Star Trek show or series for everyone then do not forget about nor alienate the conservative fans of Berman-era and style Star Trek. We exist too and we are visible, so please consider a return to traditional Star Trek. This way everyone has their preferred series. Thank you.
I will note that while everyone on DS9 and even Voyager was highly competent and professional, multiple characters were dealing with major trauma. What was inspirational about that was how they strode to deal with it.
I agree the shows should be more family-friendly, though to my mind that is more along the lines of not having too much gore or any sexual violence on par with Discovery season 1. If we step into the realm of asking for no LGBT+ characters or stories to keep it family friendly then I’d push back on that.
IDIC I think has to be in step with the times. Star Trek barely acknowledging that LGBT+ people existed beyond Dax and the Mirror Universe was a pretty big elephant to have in the room.
Discovery made up for that in a big way. I think they let the side down in that Gray and Adira were not a compelling duo, and even Stamets/Culber went from excitingly ordinary to soap opera trite by season 4. Stacking the cast with so many LGBT+ characters and actors IMO did sometimes feel like overkill and made the show seem a little… I don’t know if “preening” is the right word, but they were exceedingly proud of themselves. The simplistic writing didn’t back that up, but this was still a huge stride for casting and representation. Ditto Seven and Raffi on Picard. Not well-developed as a believable couple on the show, but gratifying to see them trying.
I get how you feel the shows aren’t catering to conservative values in the way the older shows could, but again the legacy series did so by ignoring (first unconsciously, then gradually more deliberately) a huge segment of the population for decades. That’s as big a mistake as all the rampant misogyny the shows kept dipping into, and this audience has endured that lack of representation far longer than conservatives trying to come to terms with it in the current era. In the end it’s just not on to ask any producers to make a show with the intention of actively excluding a demographic. I hope you can understand how that’s how that part of your request can be construed. You’re right though to ask for the best writing possible and I also like watching competent professionals solving problems in Star Trek. I just think it’s in the spirit of Trek to appreciate their diversity rather than try to subdue parts of it.
No one important will read this.
Troll
But I’m right though.
Dude no one cares, get over it
This guy seems to be a troll with no life.
Maybe I should get back my black job.
Since it seems to be trolling you’re already doing it.
Trumpie is a weird racist and corrupt criminal though, that we definitely agree on.
Would you consider the people who marched at Selma trolls?
Anyway I agree with you on the tRumpie stuff. I grew up in NYC and we all knew what tRumpie was long before.
I agree with you so much! Just give us *one* good Star Trek show, just one, please. Stop playing with the format, stop taking liberties with canon. Or, at the very least, demonstrate that you CAN deliver on the premise of Star Trek, do it well, and then play your games or whatever you think is going to “broaden the appeal” to new audiences. But they still haven’t even gotten the basics down.
And specifically agree with you that it would be nice to see a return to more “conservative” Trek – and by that I don’t mean political values, I mean conservative in the ways you outlined: competent, family-friendly, not dropping F bombs because it’s “cool” and never been done in Trek before (cuz that always turns out so well; see Tilly, see Admiral Sheer F-ing Hubris), not showing nudity. I want a simple, dramatic, intelligent show about boldly going with smart characters and something that inspires people of all ages. Not dark, nihilistic, dreadful action-oriented “edgy” content (see Section 31).
I miss Star Trek yall…
I’m not trying to argue but doesn’t SNW already fit most of that? It’s episodic, very family orientated and conservative. There is absolutely nothing ‘edgy’ about it. In fact a lot of fans think it’s a bit bland. It’s as close to the old Star Trek we gotten in decades and probably why it’s so popular.
Prodigy also fits that bill too but I know people are talking more about live action. And that’s very family orientated as well obviously.
Yeah I think SNW is supposed to be the “flagship” that fits the mold – but as you said, it is a bit bland, it’s just…I mean, to me it’s not good. I know a lot of fans feel otherwise. But to me, it’s still more of a rip-off and more canon violations than anything. I guess canon violations are a moot point, but I guess to me it just doesn’t clear the bar of what I’m looking for.
But if you were to ask me what an actual good Trek show would look like in this day and age – I’ll be honest, I’m kinda drawing a blank lol. I think it would be set in the Lost Era, and I think it would have completely unknown characters and absolutely no connection to any existing characters. It would be a relatively blank space in the timeline, and there would be a lot of freedom to play with the known plot points of that time: Klingon Empire reform, no Romulans until Narendra III, an Enterprise B or C floating around. I know there are other references to this time that I’m not super aware of, but it doesn’t sound so constrained.
I can tell you what it wouldn’t be. It wouldn’t be serialized to the point of being a 10 hour movie, where if you miss an episode you can’t follow the story. It wouldn’t be animated. It wouldn’t be YA-oriented, child-oriented, or “dark and edgy.” It would just be a crew of likeable and relatable characters (and not relatable cuz they swear or cuz they’re dumb) facing the unknown during a politically uncertain time.
Anyone else in for that? ✋
I get you. I do like SNW a lot but no I don’t think it’s perfect either, far from it. And yes the canon issues are definitely my biggest pet peeve. I think it would’ve just been better if the show just wasn’t part of the original timeline of the classic shows and then maybe it would make a lick of sense lol. Right now it’s just all over the place with canon and I really hate how they are shoe horning all the legacy characters who just don’t need to be there. I have zero issues with having legacy characters but their presence should obviously align with canon and several of them, T’Pring, La’an and Kirk especially just feels so unnecessary to have right now.
But I do think SNW does a good job of giving us a fun show and bringing the spirit of Star Trek back. And it’s the most Trek-y out of all of them IMO although I think Prodigy does a better job at it, but SNW gives us that traditional Trek look and feel like TOS obviously and the others. But I don’t think it’s better than any of the classic shows either because it is a bit too light at times. I wish it had more gravitas but I’m OK with a lighter show too.
As far as a show being in the lost era I’m sure you remember this very well but that was the original rumor of where Discovery was supposed to be in the timeline. I don’l love prequels at all but that’s the one place I thought would be perfect to do since there is so much time between TOS and TNG and as you said we know very little about it. And shows have more freedom to tell their stories as well. Unfortunately that wasn’t the case and we got the show we got but we fully agree there.
But I love reading your posts. I don’t agree with everything but I probably agree with more than you think.
Strange New Worlds is episodic, mostly family orientated, but conservative it is not at all. Visual canon aside, SNW is very flamboyant, bombastic, and over the top in its attempts to try something new that we’ve never seen on Star Trek before. Take the fun musical episode for example. Yes the songs were catchy. Yes it was entertaining. But was it conservative? was it intelligent? Did it make sense? No, no, and no. It was so cringey and felt more like the Buffy the Vampire Slayer musical episode than an episode of Voyager or Enterprise. It didn’t feel realistic or believable within the world of Star Trek. And the Season 3 preview is even cringier. An injection to change a person’s DNA from human to Vulcan would not affect one’s hair style nor would it make a person act logical. Vulcans are thought to be logical from a young age, learning to purge/disciple their emotions like we saw of Spock in TAS, 2009 Star Trek movie, and even of Tuvok in Voyager. SNW feels more like a parody of Star Trek performed by a Glee club versus the kind of series high quality Star Trek you would expect from Enterprise. I will admit. I am heavily biased in favor of Star Trek: Enterprise. And I guess what I would love to see is basically a new live-action series that feels like Star Trek: Enterprise. I feel sad that Manny Coto passed away in 2023, both him and Rick Berman did a fantastic job with Enterprise, especially seasons 3 & 4 which IMO are the best two seasons of Star Trek ever made.
“SNW feels more like a parody of Star Trek performed by a Glee club versus the kind of series high quality Star Trek”
I think you summed up my issues with SMW better than I have ever put into words.
+1
Again correct on all counts Captain! SNW is cringe and a half – I would never show it to anyone I’m trying to turn into a Star Trek fan.
I think if you love the comedy and light hearted stuff then SNW is a show for you. But if you find that stuff cringe as you do then I understand why others hate the show.
A poster named Legacy here says its best that everyone feel like they are in college and you don’t take them very seriously. I like Pike but he does come off too soft at times. I don’t expect him to be Kirk, Picard or Sisko but at least be a stronger commander in times of crisis and don’t crack dad jokes all the time either.
And the canon stuff like with the Gorn is a mess. And I really hate the new Kirk who shouldn’t even be there. I really wish he never showed up. They treat him like a sitcom character who shows up at the neighbors house at random times only without the personal charm and catchy one liners.
But I personally like the show. It’s not perfect but it at least feels like Star Trek which Discovery and Picard didn’t feel like much at all until later.
I’m actually very mixed on the musical episode itself. I was never a fan of the idea but of course remained open minded. In the end while it wasn’t awful and better than I expected, I don’t know if I will ever watch it again. I still only watched it the first time it aired.
But I do think what SNW gets right is that it’s back to the spirit of Star Trek where exploration and optimism is the focus again. I do think that’s why it’s so beloved, especially when you compare it to shows like Discovery and Picard (minus season 3). Just my opinion though.
And you’ll get no arguments out of me with Enterprise. I originally stopped watching it after the first season because I just didn’t care about prequels. Now I love it, especially seasons 3 and 4. It is funny how most fans look at it today and it’s now a fan favorite with many people. And it’s the ONLY show I want more seasons of. I don’t need anymore TOS, TNG or DS9 but Enterprise would be great to have more of. And it’s ironic people originally knocked it because it just didn’t align with canon enough but seeing what we got with DIS and now SNW it’s so much better lol.
Unfortunately instead of good sci-fi SNW is giving us more goofy stuff and not taking itself seriously. It degrades Spock to a joke and the latest clip seems to imply that they forget Vulcans have emotions, and a magic serum can make them act Vulcan and show up Spock. That makes no sense and seems like a cheap joke
Very fair. I always said I liked SNW because it was more light and fun but it also would be nice we got more sci fi and philosophical stories again and less musicals and Vulcan comedies.
It doesn’t have to be on the level of TNG but it should try to reach for it every once and awhile.
Agree 100% and I would add no more gory eyeball fetish content like we’ve seen in Discovery, Picard, and in the Section 31 trailer. Pulling out eyeballs and eating eye balls is so weird, off-putting, and frankly disgusting.
Conservative and non-divisive and something Berman would approve of sounds exactly like the poster who insisted no one is paying to watch gays.
Star Trek has never been and never will be conservative.
It has been, is, and will be extraordinarily progressive. If you are looking for conservative values, I respectfully suggest that you look elsewhere.
I think that’s just code for no gay people
I’m always opened minded with new Trek and will continue that with this show. Although this seems like a CW YA series so I’m guessing it’s not for a 40something. Just please please limit the Tilly time of the show, she’s worse than Wesley. I didn’t mind her in seasons 1 & 2, but she got annoying and all of a sudden was an old sage by season 4. The only characters with any depth in DSC were the “gay family” everyone else was under written or written too broadly. Still hoping Terry Matalas will return for a ST project after SNW ends, it doesn’t have to be STL, just some kinda ship or Starbase focused show
Yeah I’ve always been up and down with Tilly as well. I don’t mind her but I’m also happy she won’t be the star of the show as everyone was predicting.
And I still think the Legacy show will happen. It’s just too popular of an idea to pass up IMO. And I recently read a big reason Matalas got the Marvel show was because Kevin Feige was so impressed with Picard season 3 and wanted to hire him after he saw it. For whatever reason that season hit a lot of hardcore Trek fans in a way the other stuff hasn’t and I like most of the shows in general (still very ho hum with Discovery though).
hope matalas stays away from trek what he did with all the stupid nostalia bait filling the third season aka daystom station and the ent-d and ship muesum and turning picard into tng 2.0 which is was never supose to be by ditching the much better younger characters of elnor who could have done worfs bit helping raffi on the planet and soji who could have done datas bit of piloting the ship inside the borg cube and helped take back the titan and laris who could have done trois bit by unlocking jacks door in his mind and it would have made more sence for picard and his group to take the la sirena to rescue jack then needing the huge ent-d which was only there once again as nostalgia bait and to reinforce that he turned it into tng 2.0
other than that i like the section 31 mutated changling plot and end of the borg story part of season 3 but the card game at the end and the scene with jack and q was pointless and more nostogia bait
Massive lols to the max. The new Picard characters better? Ha ha!
The junkie, the unstable doctor, the romulan elf, the bland robot daughter and the ethnic stereotype. Oh yeah, so much better…
Ikr, reading that ‘revised’ Pic s3 with the s1/2 cast I felt like kirk discovering chekov and terrel on Regular 1 ..’oh my god’
Punctuation is your friend.
wonder if Harve Bennett will get a credit, like exec producer, or inspired by
That is a REALLY good point — His script for Star Trek 6 (back in 1989 or so) was Starfleet Academy (Kirk & Spock played by younger actors), which was soundly rejected by the fans and execs and never got made.
Even a “For Harve” card at the end of episode one would be a very nice gesture to the man who quite literally helped save Star Trek’s future in the early 1980s.
Doubtful. Doing something Academy based is a very general idea. Bennet didn’t create the concept of the Academy himself, that was always part of Star Trek. And his idea was specifically about Kirk and Spock meeting in the Academy itself which we got a tiny taste in the 09 movie and he wasn’t credited for that either.
Would be the late David Loughery who should get the credit if so, because he wrote the script for Bennett.
yes him too. btw i had no idea hed died just a couple weeks ago until your post :(
Why would he get credit for this? The Academy has always been part of Star Trek.
Ira Steven Behr actually created Section 31 but I don’t think he will be credited in the movie (although he’s probably happy with that seeing how badly NuTrek has butchered his baby). He’s never been mentioned anywhere whenever they talk about Section 31.
Is that pic photoshopped? Looks weird. Weirder than tRump.
A new format? Like social media style of video?
SFA is a series of on line role playing games!
But what does that have to do with the “hybrid format” of the show though?
I just meant, as a joke: “we are all in for a surprise!” (That the whole show has a format of an online class).
Ahh okay, LOL!
My guess is that it’s going to be a “web series” of some sort that’s somehow optimized for Tiktok, since it’s aimed at the YA crowd.
I have no idea what it means, very vague language there lol I’m scratching my chin on it. But I’m hoping that it’s evidence of Trek trailblazing a new format, which is in and of itself cool. Whether or not it succeeds, maybe it’s worth it just to try. As much as I dislike the results, I do applaud Secret Hideout for “playing with the format” and creating several permutations of Trek. I just wish they would get one that I actually wanted to watch! Anyway enough complaining from me.
Well, TikTok will soon be banned in the USA, so it’s not exactly a good strategy.
no it’s not, nor will the format of “short videos” go away, whether they’re reels on instagram or shorts on youtube…don’t think in such a box. I’m talking about a format, not an app.
the paul giamatti thing is so nice… it’s a little jarring… i hear so much negativity from trek fans that it’s nice to hear something positive from someone like him
Thanks to the casting news at least, it does look like more people are coming around to this show which is great. It may still be bad or too CWish but I have faith (of the heart) it’s going to have a little more depth if they have bigger names like Holly Hunter and Paul Giamatti attached.
And including the Doctor was really the best idea they came up with IMO. When you watch the actual video of the event and you hear how excited and surprised people are when Kurtzman says Bob Picardo’s name. That just brought a spark of excitement and interest I also think was needed to get more fans on board.
I was already looking forward to the show, but with these actors included now more than ever.
Funny how back in the day fans use to bad mouth Voyager on forums when the show was airing. Now Voyager is beloved. The same went for DS9 and Enterprise. In a few years Disco is going to be the Greatest ST in history. Never trust people’s opinion online.
That last line sez a lot about you …
It’s like talking to a child who desperately acts out for attention only he’s in his 40s.
Just bizarre.
I’m sensing anger 🧐 from you cool cat.
Because you keep being bitter over Discovery and you think I care…I don’t. Moan about it to someone else.
Bitter?🤔 The show ended after a full run. Why would I be bitter? I hate shows that run too long. 5 seasons is the sweet spot. 3 is even better. DW doesn’t count because the show reboots itself when a new Doctor comes in. The funny thing is I haven’t even seen the 5th season of Disco yet or the new season of DW. The same goes for SNW and LD. I just don’t feel like watching TV much right now.
I don’t care . You come off creepy who need some friends or a girlfriend instead of moaning over a TV show all the time. Just leave me alone please.
I think you do care. You care a lot.
This is why you are beyond creepy and everyone here knows. Get a dog or something. Leave me alone weirdo.
Maybe I should get a black job. That might be my problem, that and the depression 😔.
Have a wonderful day Cool Cat 😎.
Thiis guy is coming off like a stalker.
That’s something a stalker would tell you. That is extra creepy bro. Why does he have such an obsession with you when you asked him to leave you alone?
Yeah he’s creepy and weird and I have thought about reporting him. And he was banned here before.
I only don’t because he’s mostly harmless and he doesn’t bully people like Alpha Predtor used to and that other guy. They were just toxic and went beyond mere trolling when you’re literally harassing and insulting or bullying other people. He doesn’t do any of those things but still a troll.
I don’t understand his obsession with me either. He seems to want some kind of validation from me. It’s obvious how much it bothers him how much I and others don’t like Discovery much because he constantly brings it up as he did here. Its insecurity of the worst kind.
If you are this triggered that people think a TV show you like sucks then you shouldn’t be here. Seriously.
But he’s like a lost puppy who can’t stop following me. And yes it’s very creepy since I have kindly asked him to stop doing it for years now. But he clearly has no friends or in a relationship in real life and I feel a little sorry for him. It’s not my problem though.
At least I’m not trump weird.
Dude can you please respect my wishes and just leave me alone?
Why won’t you do that?
Do you not get how creepy you come off here? I don’t care about anything you say here, nothing, I just don’t want to involved either.
I don’t want to report you or get you banned. I asked Alpha Predtor multiple times to just leave alone. He couldn’tdo that and now he’s gone. I just want to be left alone. That’s it.
I will never get the fascination some people like you have with me here. I’m just as much of a nobody as everyone else with my thoughts no more or less interesting than the next guy. I like some shows and dislike others and just give my random opinions about it. That’s the extent of it. Agree or disagree and then move on.
Why you’re so obsessed with them I will never get?
I’m a time traveler ……
Same thing happened with the former resident lunatic when Legacy asked him to leave her alone because she already knew how crazy and unhinged that guy was and didn’t want to deal with him either.
I remember her saying she didn’t even know who the guy was and had never responded to him ever but he immediately became obsessed with her for some reason and get kept trying to argue with her when she said she didn’t like arguing with people.
And instead of respecting her wishes he just went full harasser on her and also got the boot over it although he should’ve been banned long ago anyway.
But when will these people learn?? If someone is asking you to ignore them or multiple people blocks you, it’s probably for a very good reason and not just because they disagree over TNG or something.
These people jist seem to be off mentally because they keep doing the same destructive habits again and again.
I think I told you this before but I have asked 5 people to ignore me here and I kid you not but all 5 of them eventually got banned, two you obviously know and I never reported any of them myself. And yes one of then also includes A34 when he was H34, the guy who pretends he’s too cool for school to hang out with Star Trek fans. And yet he’s here nearly every day trolling after he weaseled his way back here after being banned even though he pretends he has better things to do with his time.
It’s just weird behavior all around. But yeah you can spot some of the more eclectic personalities because they want to be proven right all the time, fight constantly with others, while being obsessed with everything you say or bring up the same arguments they keep hashing up for months on end.
Those are the ones I avoid and obviously for good reason since they usually get the boot here. This guy isn’t as bad as those but his obsession with me still drive home the same issues.
Why we need an ignore button. OK I’m done. No need to respond. Per usual I’m way off topic lol.
OK back on topic, SFA sounds interesting so far! :)
I use to work at Kmart, terrible store, I quit only after a few months. Working loss prevention wasn’t fun.
What does any of this has to do with Starfleet Academy? I didn’t even bring up Discovery.
Go be bitter someplace else please. I’ve never seen so much insecurity and abimosity over people’s issues about a TV show before. As long as YOU like the show, that’s all that matters in the end, correct? Now stop wasting my time with this nonsense.
I’m just trying to start a conversation. Chill out cool cat. You know I’m right.
This thread is about Starfleet Academy not Discovery. Stop moaning about it. And I have zero interest to have a conversation with you about anything.
I still don’t really like DS9 and I watched it at the time of airing. The religious mumbo jumbo propaganda and the irritating Ferengi stories put it at the bottom of the ‘old’ trek for me.
DS9 was my favorite during that time.
I’m not surprised. DS9 fans are nuttier than most I’ve found.
You just need to put your faith into the hands of the Prophets
To each his own, but I pity you for missing out and not enjoying one of the best if not best TREK show ever.
Completely agree man!
Me and Amirami has been talking about this on Trekcre recently but we both admit now that they brought in characters like the Doctor back we now have more interest in this show. Judging by all the comments I been reading everywhere including here we’re not alone either.
Don’t get me wrong it could be a good show on its own but because it’s made by people who made Discovery (but thank God Michelle Paradise isn’t around to destroy this show at least) and takes place in the 32nd century, a time period we both don’t care about (but I know how much you love it) it’s still a big shrug to us.
But now that we know the Doctor is back it’s a big plus because he’s connected to the 24th century, the time period I completely love. Now I have someone who is not only one of my favorite characters but his presence in a new period will make it more interesting.
It reminds me a bit when they brought back Leonard Nimoy to be part of JJ verse. They knew a lot of fans may reject another universe completely unless they had an anchor like old Spock hanging around. It’s exactly why many fans never cared about JJ verse because it’s a universe where Picard, Sisko and Janeway and their crews don’t exist so why should I care about it? Hence I didn’t lol.
But I’ll give Kurtzman credit on this one. He knows how divisive the 32nd century is to some fans like me and he knows a lot of people want a show in the 24th or 25th century again so this is a decent compromise.
And I have been much more happier with things lately thanks to Picard season 3, Lower Decks, SNW and Prodigy. Most of these have been winners in my eyes. SFA still may be terrible but with the addition of the Doctor and the other great actors joining I’m much more positive about it now. 😃🖖
OK I shouldn’t say Picard, Janeway or Sisko didn’t exist in JJ verse and maybe they do. But because its only focused on the 23rd century and TOS srories we would never see them which is why people like me just never cared about those movies much. So they might as well didn’t exist either way.
Yeah I agree I think it was a very smart move to bring in the Doctor and now skeptics of the show are at leasr more curious about it now loke youand Amirami. They know what they’re doing. It’s why Janeway was on Prodigy and Seven on Picard. They are taking popular characters not only do people love but been begging to see them again. And while Picard was a huge fan favorite once it was announced other people were skeptical on Proogy, Lower Decks and now SFA.
And for majority of fans today they grew up watching Star Trek in the Berma era and why so many shows are in this era again. That’s just reality and it’s nice to appeal to them but don’t just redo the old shows, give them something new with old favorites.
And I been saying since Prodigy came out that don’t be surprised there will be a Legacy character on each new show because it brings interest fot fans. The IRONY is I never included SFA as part of that being so far in the future and they found a way to bring one on this show anyway. 😂
And if the comedy show happens don’t be shocked if they find a way to put one on that show too. Since the show takes place in the 25th century it’s probably for that reason more than anything.
And now here is my disclaimer to say if not a single Legacy characters appeared again I wouldn’t care. I’m watching all these shows regardless like most people here. This is really for casual fans. The people who just want more TOS, TNG or VOY. The people who is not interested in 32nd century Trek or comedy Trek or kid Trek but just want to see their favorite characters again.
So this is a win to get more of those people on board.
I’m actually looking forward to the comedy show! I trust Tawny Newsome and she’s a true Trekkie. Sure I would still prefer Leagacy over this. I think people who don’t even want that show would still prefer it over this lol.
But you know how much I love Lower Decks and it won me over right away. Its a fan favorite in the fanbase for a reason and much more popular than Discovery (not saying much but still ,)). So I’m staying open minded. And you’re probably right they may find a way to bring back a TNG era character to be part of it. But we know Legacy characters will definitely appear.
And you’re right most casual fans just want to watch their favorite characters or shows and why bringing them back helps. I bet a lot of people who don’t care about SFA will now watch in the beginning at least if they are a Doctor fan. I was always going to watch no matter what but I honestly didn’t care about this show but now a little more invested in it.
But for big Voyager fans, with Picard, Prodigy and now SFA we’re eating good these days! 😃😎🖖
Yeah so am I. I prefer Leagacy too but I also said that I think Star Trek should try to think outside its comfort zone and just do different things too. It’s exactly why I support SFA.
I understand not everyone likes the idea of a comedy in Star Trek. That’s fine and understandable, but they simply don’t have to watch it, problem solved. But I think the popularity of Lower Decks proves it can work and I also trust Tawny Newsome. But yeah if it sucks I will have no problem saying so.
All I know is people complained and complained that Rick Berman never took any real chances and made safe comfort food Star Trek. People wanted more edgier things.
Cut to today and now those same people are complaining about LDS, musical episodes, Section 31, shows in the 32nd century and now the comedy. You may not like it but this is trying to shake the franchise up and I support that. Of course it doesn’t mean I will like it all myself but I don’t have an issue with the idea of them either. I thought I was going to hate LDS for example but it turned out great IMO. I think the Section 31 trailer is truly awful but hopefully I’ll like the movie itself.
But if people just want safe comfort food Berman Trek again that’s what SNW is for (which I also like a lot).
And I’m happy we’re getting another show in the 25th century which I repeatedly said is more important than any one show. But yes still want Legacy lol.
Oh and as a huge Voyager fan it’s been great since Seven showed up on Picard and Prodigy has made it even better, especially season 2!
The fact the Doctor is now on two new shows is pretty surreal but people have been begging to bring him back since Picard started. Again proof that Kurtzman does listen to the fanbsse even if his detractors still hate the shows themselves. But the guy is trying hard to please all sides.
But it’s a great time to be a Voyager fan!
Hmm interesting. ‘Hybrid’ as in stand-alone combined with 2-parters? Or maybe a combination of single length and feature length episodes?
‘Once Around’ is Holly Hunter’s best film (which she did with Richard Dreyfuss and Danny Aiello). She’s an amazing actress and this gives me some hope that the show will be a quality effort. But…it’s still up to the writers to make it happen. And that’s what has me worried (given the dismal track record of Discovery and Picard, etc.).
My favorite of hers is ‘Always,’ also with Richard Dreyfuss. She is very good, but as you say, it’s all about the writing, and barring a couple of exceptions, I do not trust Kurtzman-era writers at all. I wish this show the best, but I’m not looking forward to it at all. I’ve frowned upon the Academy idea since the 80’s.
Dan, given the casting of Holly Hunter, etc., I’m going to at least give it a shot now. I haven’t seen ‘Always’; I’ll check it out!
Could the different format be shifting POVs, rather than episode length or production style? Like one episode is focused on the senior officers, the next it’s from the perspective of the lower deckers (in this case the academy cadets) and another with the focus being on the villain’s perspective. That could be interesting but also feel a little disjointed, like SNW, with its ‘big swings’ and tonal shifts from week to week.
“A new format” and “a completely different captain”. Yeah, we’ve heard all that before and been disappointed with more of the same. Not holding my breath that this will be different.
I’m really happy Holly Hunter is a part of this. With the exception of Tilly, I’m excited for all the characters they are bringing in, especially the Doctor.
This show has gone from meh to AWESOME in my book! 😃
(And I will grudgingly admit Tilly was the least annoying last season…and that wasn’t easy for me to admit ;))
Not sure how “different” it will be. All their shows from the 23rd century ones to the 32nd century ones all look like they take place in the same era. No imagination at all.
Maybe more of an anthology with one episode focused on Jett Reno’s engineering cadets, the next on EMH’s medical students, etc? Without the usual need to have every character in every episode? Could work.