At the still ongoing New York Comic Con Star Trek Universe panel fans got a surprise with the reveal of a brand new clip from the upcoming third season of Strange New Worlds along with news of another guest star.
… and now the conclusion
The Star Trek Universe panel was announced to be focusing just on Lower Decks and the Section 31 streaming movie, but they did tease “surprises” and today that came in the form of the unannounced appearances of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds cast members Ethan Peck and Carol Kane, alongside executive producers and co-showrunners Akiva Goldsman and Henry Alonso Myers. This surprise conversation also included a brand new clip.
The season two finale ended with a classic “To Be Continued…” cliffhanger with the USS Enterprise under attack from the Gorn, and Captain Pike ordered by Starfleet to withdraw, even though that would leave Federation and Starfleet captives behind. This new clip picks up right from where we left off…
Rhys Darby plays “fun” character in season 3
It was also announced during the panel that New Zealand actor and comedian Rhys Darby (Jumanji: The Next Level) will guest star in season 3. Co-showrunner Henry Alonso Myers said during the panel that Darby is playing “a character that will be familiar yet completely new to folks that know Star Trek.” He added “If you know Star Trek, you will have a lot of fun with him and we had more fun than I could possibly imagine with him.”
New images from season 3
Paramount+ also released a few new images from the upcoming season….
The new season is set to debut in 2025. Paramount+ previously announced the series has also been renewed for a fourth season. Strange New Worlds is available to stream exclusively on Paramount+ in the U.S., the U.K., Latin America, Australia, South Korea, Italy, France, Germany, Switzerland and Austria. It streams on SkyShowtime in the Nordics, the Netherlands, Spain, Portugal and Central and Eastern Europe. The series is distributed by Paramount Global Content Distribution.
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The Gentleman Pirate is back to the future? I’m in!
Darby is always a delight in whatever he features in. This is a lovely little bit of news.
Is it me, or did they cut out the painfully long hesitation we saw from Pike from the cliffhanger? It seemed so out of character at the time. This is an edit I could live with.
Still felt kinda long here, but I believe you. Not rewatched. Doesn’t really rank too highly on the lsit of Trek cliffhangers for me.
But this is still a fun and glossy (if very JJ Trek/Discovery) action sequence. One of the better flowing integrations of teamwork in a crisis they’ve tried in the live action shows.
It’s just a clip. It’s really hard to know what they cut out or skipped.
They definitely did. It was a cowardly length before. He looked like he was wetting himself. At least this time he snaps into action (asking people for ideas because he never has any of his own.)
I’ve noticed that it’s really common that cliffhangers on shows, or even cuts before ad breaks, don’t quite align when the story is picked up.
I don’t recall the exact scene from the finale, but what I saw in this was Pike coming across as not knowing what to do at all. I think it could have been scripted better to show he’s a leader that listens, but also a man of action with his own ideas. I just don’t like how they write him as a character.. flies in the face of how a leader operates.
Sounds just like the sad everything is destroyed music from Avatar!
…which aped a lot of the horn elements from James Horner’s own older scores, such as Willow and The Wrath of Khan. It’s all cyclical!
That’s James Horner’s four note “danger motif.” He also used it for Khan in Star Trek 2. Nami Melumad used it for the Gorn in Momento Mori. Now it’s back.
The season finale was terminally dull and that cliffhanger felt unearned. So I’m not really chomping at the bit to return to this corner of the franchise. The show is just… soulless.
Kind of agree here. I’ll watch it, and have to watch the last season ender again, but it’s not a priority. They lost me in S2, and now we know it’s a different timeline from TOS, not so excited. This show lost it’s luster for me. Little to no rewatch value.
To me the fact that this is essentially a reboot helps it. It’s not tied to anything that came before or after. They can pretty much do what they want with any character. Which is freeing to writers. If they had writers who could write compelling stories that is.
They can, but Pike is a lot less interesting with how they are writing him.
I tend to agree. When it comes back I’ll still watch it because God help me I’m still a fan of Star Trek. But I have zero hope this will be any good.
Couldn’t disagree more! As a writer myself it hit all the right narrative notes. I think it’s just not the show for you, and that’s OK.
Just seeing Gorn ships flying around leave me groaning, despite knowing this is where they have to pick up from last season.
Maybe they can go back in time, have SNW’s writers watch “Arena” and thus prevent them from messing up the Gorn.
Lol!
Apparently they watched it, and decided that one line of dialogue ( they really said that btw) was not going to stop them from pursuing a Gorn story. Bottom line is they “softly” rebooted the Prime Timeline but for some reason they don’t want to say it.
I would imagine reinserting the Eugenics Wars, Klingon Time Crystals, Temporal Wars etc. is the way they will explain the differences and attempt to reconcile it all when the show ends.
To be fair the Baby Khan episode basically suggests show is in an alternate timeline. People want to argue that it isn’t but wouldn’t that just make sense at thos point?
None of it feels remotely canon to TOS when you got Kirk and Pike singing in a musical together, Spock in a love triangle with T’Pring and Chapel, Korby isn’t missing and hasn’t even met Chapel yet much less engaged to her, a Khan descendent working on the ship and yeah Starfleet well aware of the Gorn 5 years before Arena.
I’m still trying to figure out how the Gorn weren’t just the first name on the list that could’ve wiped out the colony on Cestus III just like Al Queada were the first names on the list after 9/11 after seeing all the mess they made for Starfleet on this show so far.
Alternate timeline/Temporal Cold War shenanigans would solve ALL their problems.
If it is set in an alternate timeline, then that would mean that Discovery takes place in an alternate timeline which to be honest, I would not be mad about. However, the folks making it insist it takes place in the Prime Universe which is why they say that “time” reinserted itself.
There is a line from DISCO where Burnham’s mother says that Time travel alters technology. The Temporal Wars are now the excuse for everything. You could argue that Enterprise did this.
Yeah Discovery was obviously the worst culprit for many reasons. For a lot of us the show just felt like a generic sci fi show like it was already in another universe. And of course it felt so out of place they decided to throw it in the far future to stop fans from whining over canon.
I don’t think SNW is as bad because it at least feels like its in the right universe. But the continuity stuff has become a complete mess. It’s funny how Picard, Prodigy and Lower Decks keep all the canon and continuity of classic Star Trek completely accurate as possible, right down to specific references from a throwaway line said in a Voyager or TNG episode. But DIS and SNW just doesn’t follow the same rules for some reason and everything just feels jumbled together like how Section 31 was handled on Discovery. With SNW, they try to keep the broader strokes like Pike’s accident but the specifics don’t matter like Spock and Chapel’s ridiculous teen romance which never remotely happened in TOS.
I really do enjoy SNW as a show and think it’s generally good, but I would be a hypocrite if I pointed out all of Discovery’s canon issues but ignored SNW. It doesn’t add up at all and doesn’t feel like they care to make it make sense.
But hey, the Temporal War, so problem solved I guess.
You could argue that Enterprise did this.
I’d argue, ST: First Contact did this. Riker and crew, revealing details about the future to Cochrane and Lilly. Sped up development to safeguard against those “cybernetic creatures from the future”. The fact that the NX-01 was named Enterprise, while the crew of Voyager, weren’t too surprised about the NX-01-A being named Dauntless (sure, it was a fake ship… but they didn’t know that at the time).
Exactly. Many felt Star Trek Discovery WAS an alternate reality/reboot in spite of what the folks making it claimed. They are peeing on our legs and telling us it’s raining.
Enterprise had nothing to do with it. These folks just wanted to do their own thing but were terrified of making a full on reboot. And this is the mess fans got.
“Kirk and Pike singing in a musical together.”
In TOS The Menagerie, it was NEVER stated that Kirk only ever met Pike “when he was promoted to Fleet Captain”. Just that he had met Pike… when promoted to Fleet Captain (take it as you will). Also the musical episode was friggin’ hilarious!
“Spock in a love triangle with T’Pring and Chapel”
TOS had an unrequited love affair between Spock and Chapel, and T’Pring seemingly tossed Spock aside despite being under an arranged marriage since childhood. A love triangle, doesn’t seem that far fetched.
“Korby isn’t missing and hasn’t even met Chapel yet”
SNW is still 7 years away from TOS. Lots of things can happen in that time.
“Starfleet well aware of the Gorn 5 years before.”
Like the example with Kirk and Pike, nowhere in Arena is it said that Starfleet didn’t know about the Gorn.
Judging by your list of examples, I’d just assume you never actually paid much attention to TOS. Other than the “visual reboot” of SNW, there’s really not a whole lot that could be considered out of continuity from what we know from TOS. Kirk is still a Lieutenant in SNW (as he should be). TOS only ever mentioned Kirk’s past history as being a Lieutenant on the Farragut, during the ill-fated mission with Captain Garrowick. That hasn’t happened yet in SNW.
“In TOS The Menagerie, it was NEVER stated that Kirk only ever met Pike “when he was promoted to Fleet Captain”. Just that he had met Pike… when promoted to Fleet Captain (take it as you will). Also the musical episode was friggin’ hilarious!”
Look, I get it but let’s not kid ourselves either. He clearly did not know Pike beyound meeting him at a few Starfleet functions because in that SAME episode Kirk had zero emotions over the guy who was basically a frequent regular on his ship and got to know Pike personally. I’m not saying they didn’t know each other but it feels very different than Kirk being the ultimate space neighbor that hangs around him and his crew for literally years. And I liked the musical too.
“TOS had an unrequited love affair between Spock and Chapel, and T’Pring seemingly tossed Spock aside despite being under an arranged marriage since childhood. A love triangle, doesn’t seem that far fetched.”
Chapel had feelings for him in TOS, but Spock just saw her as another member of the crew. Thats it. Would you call your ex girlfriend ‘Ms. Chapel’? Can you think of a single time Riker called Deanna ‘Ms. Troi’?And they were DATING in SNW. They had sex. That’s not how ‘unrequited love’ works. And Chapel didn’t know who T’Pring was in TOS since T’Pring has never met any of them. That’s why the love triangle is jist silly and feels really out of place.
“SNW is still 7 years away from TOS. Lots of things can happen in that time.”
You missed my point, Korby went missing before Chapel joined the Enterprise. They were already engaged. This is completely different and she meets him later.. and apparently Spock gets jealous over Korby. (sigh)
“Like the example with Kirk and Pike, nowhere in Arena is it said that Starfleet didn’t know about the Gorn.”
Then how come Spock and Uhura pretended like they didn’t know who the Gorn were in Arena?
Why didn’t they assume the Gorn were probably the one who attacked the colony since they were so close to Gorn space then?
Why do they all looked so shocked when the Gorn appear as a lizard then? It was as if they never seen one before lol.
Mike, I wish I can send you a video of me knocking my head against a wall. Because my frustration level is at a 9. The goal post has been moved so much to the point I can’t even see it anymore lol. The argument originally started as ‘well they didn’t actually see the Gorn so you can believe they would still be surprised who they were in Arena’ to now ‘of course Starfleet who they were the whole time, duh!”
I still remembered, not that long ago BTW, that people argued with me that of course Uhura didn’t recognize the Gorn in Arena because she wasn’t even on the bridge m-o-r-o-n during and didn’t see them for herself. ‘ But now no one argues that anymore for obvious reasons .
Just like no one argues that T’Pring never met anyone in the crew until we got to Spock Amock and now no one argues that anymore.
When it was FIRST revealed that Kirk would be on this show, people said he and Pike will obviously never be in the same room together because Pike isn’t supposed to meet the guy until he was at least captain and Pike Fleet Admiral. So they gave Pike the promotion for litterally one day (seriously why even bother?) and now they are dancing on the bridge together.
“Judging by your list of examples, I’d just assume you never actually paid much attention to TOS.”
I’m really considering sending you that video Mike. And this entire ridiculous discussion is why I wish they just avoided prequels altogether. 🙄
“Uhura didn’t recognize the Gorn in Arena because she wasn’t even on the bridge m-o-r-o-n during Memento Mori.”
Didn’t write in the title for some reason. And someone literally called me a moron on another site when I bought this up lpl.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought Christine joined *Starfleet* to find Korby, not the Enterprise. The pilot of SNW establishes her as being a civilian on loan from some genetics centre. Not that most people would remember that.
She did both and joined Starfleet and then took a position on Enterprise to find him. In TOS, Chapel was only there because she wanted to find Korby who she was already engaged to. She basically put her career on hold and took a job as a nurse.
On SNW it’s literally the complete opposite and she doesn’t even know the guy yet and on the Enterprise solely for her career and
being on a fun adventure.
And I will be completely upfront about it and say I didn’t remember much of that either. It had been awhile since I saw that episode. But after SNW I just went back to it and I always remembered she was already in a relationship with Korby, just not the specifics of her situation.
But it’s so eye rolling for anyone to tell me (and I quote) “judging by your list of examples, I’d just assume you never actually paid much attention to TOS” and then the guy clearly doesn’t remember anything about why Chapel was on the ship in TOS suggesting the Korby thing can still play out as it originally did.
No, no it can’t because it directly contradicts canon. You can’t get around that. I will concede you can do enough mental gymnastics in your head to believe Starfleet knew who the Gorn were and Kirk and Pike were apparently besties. I think it’s ridiculous but fine.
But the Christine/Korby thing can’t be reconciled AT ALL and literally why some of us suggets the show is simply in an alternate timeline. The irony is that’s one of those things that would literally play out in an episode where in one timeline Chapel is already engaged when we meet her and another where she isn’t.
I like the show a lot and have said so but I have eyes and ears too. And most of this doesn’t remotely jive at all. If you sat a newbie down to watch both shows together they would be utterly confused watching both shows with the conflicting story and character beats.
That’s a lot of mental gymnastics.
Kirk meeting Pike before The Menagerie. Is it possible Kirk did meet him earlier multiple times? Yes. But that would mean the line about “I met him when he was promoted…” comes across as awkward at best. Misleading at worst. No one speaks like that. If he met Pike before it’s very likely the response to the question of “have you met him?” would have included how long he knew him or something like “Yes, the last time was when he was promoted.” It it was a first time meet the response would likely be what Kirk said in the episode.
Spock & Chapel. It was hardly unrequited love. It was more like a crush on Chapel’s part and hers alone. SNW made it FAR more than it was ever presented to be on TOS. Again, could it have been something? Yes but again that is an enormous stretch based on how things were on TOS and is very difficult to buy.
Korby. I will have to watch the episode again to be sure. It’s not a very good one so I don’t see it all that much. So I really don’t want to comment on the timeline for when Chapel was with him. Without knowing I would wager, like how they treat other TOS characters, events and happenings, that it doesn’t line up either.
The Gorn. In my view this would be the biggest and worst transgression if the show were indeed canonical to TOS. It is 100% for certain no one in Star Fleet knew about the Gorn. If they did would they establish a facility on Cestus III? No way in hell. In fact, given how the Gorn are so very well known and how aggressive they are there is no way in hell Star Fleet intelligence didn’t have SOME kind of information for their home system, what area of space they claim or any of that. It’s not reasonable that the UFP wouldn’t try to reach out to the Gorn continuously at the very least to hammer out an agreement. And if the Gorn refused to talk there would for sure be intelligence on them. Kirk would know it was the Gorn who attacked the colony. Kirk would know the other Captain was a Gorn. He wouldn’t act like he never heard the word at all. Uhura was there on the Bridge. She heard the Metrons call the other ship Gorn. At the very least she would have opened her mouth immediately. Nothing regarding the Gorn on TOS fits into what they are doing with them on SNW. Which is why many surmised SNW was a reboot from the very beginning.
It is honestly unfathomable to me how anyone could opt to not believe their lying eyes and instead believe SNW is prime and canonical with TOS. But hey… If that helps one enjoy the show then fine. That’s their cup of tea. They should just be prepared to get some push back if they try and convince others it is in line with TOS.
I think they already solved it. It’s either a flat out reboot or for those who don’t like reboots a KU type alternate timeline. Literally everything we’ve seen screams this. The one thing missing is a producer flat out publicly admitting that is indeed what it is. But at this point, is that even necessary?
It really feels like they watched it then decided “screw it, we want to use the Gorn anyway.” That was the moment before cameras ever started rolling that it was decided this show would be a full on 100% reboot. The time travel episode in season 2 just clinched what was obvious from the start.
Too late…
They’ve done something with the Gorn I never thought possible: Made them interesting. Love the retcon. I hope they retcon a lot more of TOS.
It’s been over a year since that cliffhanger and the tension, if there was any, has long since faded. Come on Paramount+.
Looks good!
I thought Number One was at the helm? On TOS both navigation and helm wore gold uniforms.
I will take Finnegan for 200 Alex. Darby is playing Finnegan.
I can see that.
They should have played this clip at SDCC instead, IMHO. It’s worlds better.
It probably wasn’t ready yet. The other clip didn’t require as much VFX work.
Obviously we don’t know what that episode will entail after that aired, but it feels like they just need to drop the whole episode entirely. It was that bad.
Can’t wait for more SNW!
Looks ok. Strange New World is still my least favourite of the modern Trek shows (Discovery still remains the best of the modern ones imo) so I hope S3 will be an improvement over the first 2 seasons.
I liked season 2 more than you did but I agree I do hope season 3 is a major improvement.
Well thank you Paramount+ for completely ruining the S2 cliffhanger by posting the result of how it was going to end.
What a stupid move….
Looking forward to this, back to the action and adventure! And they brought back colors to tbe bridge, looks fantastic!
Enjoyed seeing the crew troubleshooting problems in a crisis situation on the bridge, and Uhura telling all decks to prepare for impact. So much more exciting then people sitting in conference rooms and hallways.
How exciting!
Has anyone checked on Disparu?
Man. I miss the old Star Trek Style space battles. I mean it’s okay to make it look like everything else on TV but usually you WANT a unique selling point for your show.
Also: Aren’t those Tholian ships?
Also also: I know, Star Trek was never that stringent about it anyways but I also liked the idea, that you can’t just use a warp drive in a solar system. It made for some really interesting story telling opportunities …
I think it tended to be more that it wasn’t ‘safe’. This seems like a good case of worth the risk.
Or maybe that rule was introduced after the awkward time Vulcan’s moon got destroyed by a warping starship, which hasn’t happened yet.
Okay, you got me, when was this? on Ent or VOY or one of the new shows? And was this to reconcile the ‘miss uhura vulcan has no moon’ line?
They never made that claim, however that’s a very ‘hard sf’ notion prevalent in Larry NIven’s work.
TOS had them warping out of orbit from planets all the damn time (and pivoting and making turns while at warp speed — indicated in both dialog and visuals, watch ELAAN OF TROYIUS — which makes a hash of that silly VOYAGER claim about no turning at warp speed), it’s just that TMP has that log entry where they indicated they have to risk going to warp in-system when they meant to say ‘have to risk using untested engines at warp in-system, which reflects Scott’s earlier dialog.’
DS9 had the thing about not going to warp right near the sun, which leverages off something from Diane Duane’s superb THE WOUNDED SKY trek novel, but Moore cheats his way through that particular ds9 ep IMO.
ohboy kiddies, it’s pewpew time agin…so sad and soulless, alrighty.
plus not well executed imo.
Just can’t be bothered with SNW, because I’d be better off watching the weakest of the TOS (or even LIS) episodes, instead of this boring nonsense.
These new Trek shows can’t just have the two Gorn ships collide, a piece of them then has to smash against the Enterprise.
Well seeing as NEMESIS was the last proper Star Trek movie we got (severely underrated) I at least admire the writers of this show that they paid respect to a piece of Trek franchise that was infinitely better than anything they can write themselves.
If there are any Star Trek “fans” on here who dont/wont go back to 2002 I am talking about the bit where the Scimitar shoots the Romulan Warbird and a piece of it comes off and hits the Enterprise and there is that brief moment all the computer screens on the Enterprise go off. I always liked that little touch for some reason – even Data seems to show an incredulous reaction as it is something he has never seen before.
YES Nemesis is completely flawed, was not the goodbye we wanted from TNG. But it is superior to anything post Berman because at it’s heart it is still Star Trek.
We are now almost 60 years on from TOS and the events of Arena, and all the modern writers of Star Trek can do is go back and interfere with things established in the past – what is the point?
No one wants to see the Gorn as enemies on Star Trek and the annoying thing is, even in TOS timeline there are still plenty of potentially **hostile** races like the Kilingons & Romulans, Andorians to explore. Admittedly it is not Novel or original to revisit those races as antagonists, but I would take that over the Gorn any day. I have to admit there is always room for a Gorn appearence in any iteration of Star Trek, In a mirror darkly from ENT S4 showed that, but do not try and shoehorn them in as villains of the week when Star Trek does not traditionally do villains of the week and if it did, the Gorn were never any such thing.
Anyway I had bought season 2 of SNW on DVD but have not watched it yet and put it into a box with other DVDs I am giving to charity (along with DIsco S4). I never thought I would skip Trek but there is just nothing here I want to see.
Sad
Could the new guy be playing Kevin Riley?
Lt. Bailey (from “The Corbomite Maneuver”)
Gary Mitchell?
Could be Balok for all I care, whoever it is they will just reinterpret the character and force it into this mess of a show. Star Trek ended in 2005
For the record, according to Manny Coto himself, he was a big TOS guy and wanted to bring the Gorn in on season 4. But he knew he couldn’t because it was obvious no one ever heard of them in the ARENA episode. His workaround was the two part MIRROR episode.
Unlike the folks at Secret Hideout, Coto actually knew the material and respected it.
Wow! That was quite the scene! I’m very much looking forward to the new season. This is fast becoming my favorite Trek show.
What if that new guy is playing Matt Decker?
Well, they mention the word “fun,” and while Decker was a great character in a great episode, portrayed excellently by William Windom, nothing about him suggested fun.
Of course, but that could be the surprise. Who knows what Matt Decker was like before he met the Doomsday Machine?
Regular party animal!! Brewed the best home-made hooch in the Academy dorms!
But somehow never understood his new-agey son, right? Or did Will only get that way after his dad Ahab’d?
Would have been good to see him and Garth in the Klingon War. Missed opportunity.
The flashbacks in “Cloak of War” were a little forced structurally, but you could have an opening scene set during the war in order to re-introduce Decker or Garth meeting Pike in the SNW present.
ok that was cool.
In all honesty I completely forgot what happened in the cliffhanger. As a result the clip was just noisy and very little of it made a lick of sense.
Much like your comments!
The projection is strong with this one.
The action sequences in SNW continue to be better than anything we’ve gotten in the history of Trek. Full of high quality spectacle, edge-of-your-seat tension, and classic Trek problem-solving.
Sorry, I think Decker vs Security Guard in DOOMSDAY smokes this in terms of action, as does the Cestus III battle in ARENA. And those’re just the first two examples that leap (or drop-kick) to mind.