At New York Comic Con, the upcoming Star Trek: Section 31 streaming movie starring Michelle Yeoh got a release date of January 24, 2025 on Paramount+. We also got details and posters for the new characters. The film is still a bit of a mystery, but perhaps some gaps will be filled in by a new one-shot comic book tie-in coming right after the movie debuts.
Section 31: The Comic Book
IDW has announced the first merchandise tie-in for the Section 31 movie with what they are describing as an “exciting single-issue spin-off ” comic book set to be released on February 5th. Details on it are a bit scant right now, but here is the synopsis from IDW:
The issue features Emperor Philippa Georgiou on a brand-new, raucous, and exhilarating adventure.
It’s possible that the new comic could help fill in some blanks, notably what happened to Georgiou between when she was last seen traveling back in time from the 32nd century in Star Trek: Discovery season 3 and the events of the new movie, apparently set in the “lost years” of the early 24th century.
Michelle Yeoh as Georgiou and Sonequa Martin-Green as Commander Burnham in Discovery season 3 (Paramount+)
The new book is being written by Alyssa Wong in her first Star Trek outing, coming from Star Wars: Doctor Aphra for Marvel and Spirit World for DC. Art is being done by Megan Levans, who has been working on Trek comics for a decade, including the most recent arc of IDW’s ongoing Star Trek series.
Here is the cover image (by Levans) released by IDW:
Section 31 comic “A cover”
The comic is priced at $5.99 and you can reserve a copy now at TFAW with a pre-order discount price of $4.19. You can also reserve a copy of the B/Poster Cover variant.
Section 31 movie in January
Star Trek: Section 31 will premiere on Friday, January 24, 2025, exclusively on Paramount+ in the U.S. and international markets where the service is available. In the movie, Michelle Yeoh reprises her Star Trek: Discovery role as Emperor Philippa Georgiou who joins Section 31, a secret division of Starfleet. According to the brief synopsis: “Tasked with protecting the United Federation of Planets, she also must face the sins of her past.”
Section 31 also stars Omari Hardwick (Power), Kacey Rohl (Hannibal), Emmy® winner Sam Richardson (Ted Lasso), Sven Ruygrok (One Piece), Robert Kazinsky (Pacific Rim), Humberly Gonzalez (Ginny & Georgia) and James Hiroyuki Liao (Barry). Miku Martineau (Kate) portrays a young Philippa Georgiou.
Michelle Yeoh as Georgiou and Joe Pingue as Dada Noe in Star Trek: Section 31 (Paramount+)
Keep up with all the Star Trek comics news, previews and reviews in TrekMovie’s comics category.
That cover, as boring as it is, looks better than the actual film.
Because of commenters like you I rarely look at the comment section anymore. Nobody likes a mood killer.
Go ahead. It is boring and Michelle Yeoh is vastly overrated.
I haven’t posted here much so I’ll post more and take your place.
Agreed 100% on Yeoh. Complete Emperor’s New Clothes. She brings less than nothing to a scene.
You do know that it’s reactions like yours that give them more ammunition right?
Who are “them”? Remco slung insults for no reason.
I said you kill my mood. There was no insult in there. You are a toxic person.
LOL. ***I*** am a toxic person? OK, kid.
You didn’t. You said “Nobody likes a mood killer.” That’s an insult–and also highly inaccurate, since it’s clear that a lot of people agree with me, which means I didn’t kill any mod.
And your point was… what, exactly? You clearly DO look at the comments section, or else you wouldn’t have seen it. Plus, you are the mood killer in this discussion. I posted an opinion about Star Trek. You posted an insult.
Totally ridiculous comment, dude.
Remco read my reply and changed the wording of his post. Obvious troll is obvious. LOL
Haha true!
I figure it’s a placeholder so as to avoid spoilers. Spoilers are often redacted in comic book solicitations, so the precedent is there.
Yes, I know. My point was NOT a judgment of the cover. It was a judgment of the movie.
You literally call the cover ‘boring’…
Begone, troll.
Collect this in a trade paperback,
I will buy it.
A trade paperback for a “single issue spin-off” seems like overkill to me.
All I am saying is f they do other character tie ins, MORE , One Shots for this project,I would be interested in diving in, to more of that side of the mirror universe
I figured you meant something like that I just couldn’t resist the cheap joke!
Hard to imagine how they’ll engender sympathy for this particular devil … Will we find that some meanie took away her spacesled called rosebud when she was still just a young-un? Or that she was led astray by some Roy Cohn type?
Exactly. The Space Nazi had a bad childhood so we should empathize with her and why she killed millions of innicent people. Poor little thing.
Remember when Star Trek celebrated heroes and good people? Now it’s propping up literally tyrants and trying to show them as ‘cool’. People like this are a disgrace. We’re fighting very hard to keep a real life tyrant out of the White House for a second time. I have little interest to watch a much worse one in a Star Trek movie.
It’s funny when the former resident lunatic used to get triggered anytime someone called this despot Space Hitler. And yet Trump has been called Hitler by many people for years now, including my own family and his current VP lol.
And as awful and racist as Trump is he’s never caused any genocides. But we know he wouldn’t have any sympathy if one ever happened if they never voted for him and what makes him scary and dangerous. And he obviously wants to be a fascist.
Adolf not only has caused genocide because of her hatred she ate her own slaves as well. I don’t know if being called the devil is a strong enough word for what she is either but I agree it’s sad something like Star Trek is trying to white wash her genocidal past.
Because Trump WANTS to be Hitler that’s why he is indeed called that. His disgusting rhetoric and propaganda are quotes Hitler has literally said in the past. His enemy from within line he won’t stop repeating came out of Germany. It’s so disturbing this man could be President again.
Georgiou is a racist genocidal tyrant who would’ve done it again if she had the chance. Like Trump she is now in a society that wholeheartedly rejects that so she has to play by those rules; but she is evil regardless. They will try their best to sane wash the character but you can’t erase someone who created so many deaths. I have never forgiven Gul Dukat for all the deaths he caused on Bajor and that’s just one planet. He too is a Space Nazi but doesn’t compare anything close to what this woman did and she has never shown remorse for any of it.
But NuTrek has no problem giving someone like this a starring role. 🙄
Yup!
Can’t disagree with any of this and I loved Gul Dukat, but he was just as much of a Space Hitler too (I can still call a spade a spade lol). But some have pushed back against that since unlike Adolf (and the actual Hitler) he wasn’t directly in charge but ‘just following orders’.
But we know that excuse never held up with the Nazis either.
And while the Prime universe isn’t the Mirror universe let’s not forget the Federation has tried to cause genocide in the past as well to win wars. During the Klingon war when they wanted to literally blow up Kronos and during the Dominion War when Section 31 tried to use Odo to wipe out the Founders.
And funny enough Adolf was the one who was picked to wipe out the Klingons because that’s what genocidal maniacs do. And ironically that act is probably what caught the attention of Section 31 and why they recruited her. As sick as all this sounds it fits both her and S31 to a tee.
No one is claiming she is the only evil person in Star Trek, but she is the first evil person to headline a Star Trek movie and that’s pretty sad to me. But it’s fitting its with Section 31 at least.
Yeah, but when the DS9 writers realised that some sympathised with Ducat, they made Waltz in response.
And Gul Ducat met a timely end.
For sure! But unlike Discovery, DS9 had amazing writers and made the character very nuanced who tried to always be civil and charming but deep down was still evil.
As I said, I loved Dukat but I NEVER defended him and always argued with people at the time he was still responsible for running a planet wide concentration camp. You really can’t get away from that. It’s amazing how they kept that character around and built a real relationship with Sisko and Starfleet. They knew what he did but worked with him and saved his life several times. And he in turn helped the Federation at times too. It’s a really interesting dynamic having someone they are supposed to hate but does genuinely come off as a decent person…until he finally wasn’t.
I loved Dukat but was happy he got his in the end.
It’s night and day with Georgiou making genocide jokes and everyone just shrugs over it. It feels so laughable and forced. Most of the time I was worried of Saru being in the room alone with her because she might try and eat him.
I can’t take her seriously at all. And now we have a genocidal dictator playing Suicide squad leader with generic characters who seem to all think she’s like super cool and should be admired instead of bring tried for her inhumane crimes and all the suffering she caused.
I think this is a great point. I remembered too when people defended Gul Dukat and it got so bad the producers decided they had to prove he was truly evil and came up with Waltz as you said. But even after that episode aired, there were still people who defended him. And these are Star Trek fans. But it proves that for some people, they can excuse anything if they just think someone is charming enough or isn’t just doing it our of spite. Or the worst of all, because they think what they are doing is necessary. That’s how the phrase ‘necessary evil’ came about. That’s basically how every war in history is justified. The people who starts them never say they are doing it to be evil, but that it’s justified in some way to better society (usually theirs and no one else’s).
There is nothing wrong if people truly like characters like Dukat, Khan or MU Georgiou. They are not real, it doesn’t matter. But what kills me is when some fans like them so much that they excuse or defend their deplorable actions. Try to hand wave it like it’s not REALLY their fault lol. And yeah it has happened with her just like Dukat
And I admit, unlike someone like Dukat or Khan, I don’t see the appeal with MU Georgiou at all. I don’t hate her because she’s ‘evil’. I hate her because she just comes off as a two dimensional caricature and played very badly by Yeoh. And it really frustrates me because they could’ve actually developed her but did nothing for three seasons.
A perfect example for anyone who watches The Walking Dead and the character Negan. He was despicable from the beginning. You are supposed to hate everything about him and all you want to do is to see this guy get beaten to death with his own baseball bat. But unlike Dukat, they went the other way and tried to redeem him. But that literally took years. The character was an a-hole for a long time and (spoiler alert) even responsible for SMG character’s death. But they planted seeds very early that he wasn’t always a mega-douche. There was a time he was a decent person before the plague and they slowly played that up where he went from the villain to an ally. And I know all of that comes from the comics but that’s competent writing and character development. And even when he finally turned to good, there are still people on the show today who doesn’t like him or fully trust him because he still killed a lot of people and did horrible things.
Then we have Georgiou, a character who was in about three seasons and 30 episodes and never once had any internal struggles about anything. She is just there to be ‘cool’ and confident. This was not only the first full time Mirror universe character on a show, it was also one that was the FREAKING EMPEROR of that universe and now living in a society that prides itself on equality and diversity. It would’ve been interesting to see how someone who has only known a universe of death and division all her life reacts to a universe that learned to function the opposite way. They never bothered to explore why and how she did what she did or ever started to appreciate why something like the Federation works. It just never came up.
You would think a story about Hitler (for example) who was forced to now live in a society where they are not just forced to live and work with people they were conditioned to completely despise their entire lives, but now had to reconcile with themselves with the reality what they did was not only wrong but come to the realization of all the evil things they did; even if they knew it was something they were just conditioned to feel. People who like the character argues that it is a nature issue since most MU characters are just major a-holes in general,ie, they were just born that way.
Fine, but we never got that argument one way or the other. Instead we got three seasons of a woman who liked fighting, having sex, making crass jokes and acted like she was above it all to even be challenged on anything of who she was before. And it made for a really boring and uninteresting two dimensional character in the end. Gul Dukat also came off smug a lot, but they actually gave that character self doubt, empathy and reflection at times too. I don’t think the Discovery writers knew what those words meant when it came to writing for Georgiou.
“It’s funny when the former resident lunatic used to get triggered anytime someone called this despot Space Hitler. And yet Trump has been called Hitler by many people for years now, including my own family and his current VP lol.”
One of my coworkers call Trump Hitler too only he adds an ‘S’ in front of the name lol.
And it is sad his own VP was going on news outlets years ago saying how he despises Trump and called him America’s Hitler; and now they are running together. You can not make this up. It tells you everything about that party and the cult status it has gained over a guy who would sell any one of them for a tax cut.
As far as MU Georgiou, I think this board is pretty much in agreement on where most stand with her. And she’s a thousand times worse than Trump.
oh, don’t forget – her bad childhood will be the result of being orphaned at the hands of the Federation.
Call me crazy, but what about putting anything interesting in the movie?
They probably would rather just put ‘edgy’ scenes with the Deltan instead of telling a competent story in their Suicide Squad rip-off (which the MCU is also doing :\ ) …
Apparently that’s asking for a lot. But I guess Beyonce music and nightclub scenes is what most fans flock to when they think of Star Trek
Beyoncé? How So?
In the trailer. ;)
When I think Section 31, I think martial arts, going in all guns blazing and jewel encrusted daggers.
Yep.
They really are gonna try and make us feel bad for the genocidal evil fascist war monger huh?
It’s really hard to feel sorry for Adolf on any level because no matter what was done to her, she probably did something much worse to people she ruled under in the billions
It will be a new low. A true nadir in the history of a franchise we all adored.
Odd how you have reached that determination about a film you have not seen anything of.
Have you seen the trailer? Thems be what TPTB deem the enticing tidbits. As enticing as a pub toilet at closing time.
M1701, we’ve seen DSC, so we know what we’re in for.
Y’all naysayers forgot one thing..
Its an even number Trek movie..
Because Nemesis and Star Trek Into Drekness are so loved? But if this movie manage to suck less than those then I guess we can call it a win?
You do realize the last time an even movie was considered ‘good’ consensus wise was nearly 30 years ago now? Wow, we’re so old lol.
According to several friends I used to have it was 10 years ago but yeah Nemesis completely blew apart that rule, then ST09 further turned it on its head , ..
But that aside the odd/bad even/good rule never meant much to me bc ive always considered III to be 2nd best of the entire films
Anyway I guess S31 would be like the first movie of the stream tv movies anyway (hopefully followed by Legacy)
OK but we’re only talking about it because you referenced it right?
And I don’t count this movie with the theatrical ones anyway because it’s a cheap streaming movie. The trailer doesn’t scream Kelvin movie size budgets.
But yeah I agree there is probably a good chance it does well enough there will be a Legacy movie down the line. And the theatrical side doesn’t look like it’s going to be revived anytime soon. 2025 is around the corner and there is dead silence on anything happening. Zoe Saldana just confirmed for the 12th time she knows zip about another movie, but certainly like to do another one. She’s only been saying that for 8 years now.
And I think for most fans out there they would probably prefer a Legacy movie over a Kelvin or the Starfleet movie anyway.
Well Said.
POSITIIVITY!
This looks and sounds as bad as Discovery and that’s saying a lot.
I just have a hard time supporting anything starring a Space Nazi but it looks like they wrecked Section 31 too.
Sigh
Sadly agree. Hopefully it will surprise us
You are not alone in your disappointment, Legacy. This looks awful.
Well as I suspected once I read the comments, that I would see the usual reactions every time this movie is talked about lol.
Putting out a comic book is fine of course but this movie will hopefully be decent because fans seem down on all of it. We all know this only exists to capitalize on Yeoh but if it just comes off as a really bad cheap TV movie it will do her or the Section 31 brand no favors.
And yet it has to succeed if the idea is to make more streaming movies after it. So it’s in a weird bind and based on something the majority of the fanbase never wanted in the first place; but now even more down on it after that awful trailer.
But then again, expectations feel so low right now if it doesn’t completely crap the bed people may end up praising it
I still can’t get remotely enthused for it and yet it already has my money. Oh to be a an obsessed fan with zero willpower lol. But if it sucks I’m only watching it twice!!!!! 😆
Been following this site for several years now but never felt the need to comment. Lorna Dune your hostile gatekeeping is a recurrent stain here. I preemptively roll my eyes when I see your username, which is far too often.
Please look up the term “gatekeeping.” It does not mean what you seem to think it means. At no point have I **ever** posted anything that could be called gatekeeping, troll.
I love how everyone that disagrees with or dislikes you is a troll. You’re amazing.
Not remotely true. I’ve called maybe five trolls “troll” in all the years I’ve been here. Begone, troll.
That being said… I ***am*** amazing and appreciate that you noticed.
Having been here probably longer than you and read most of Lorna’s posts, if anything she’s been the opposite of a gatekeeper. Your very post is gatekeeping, as you’re judging the validity of her posts and insinuating that she’s posting too much…
As she suggests, while you’re looking up “gatekeeping” take a few more seconds to look up “self-awareness”.
Thank you for this. I greatly appreciate it. Flargh has no idea what gatekeeping is.
Lorna Dune does no such thing here. As someone who has interacted with him for years now and have both agreed and disagreed with them, they have simply given their opinion as everyone else. And sadly people throw the term ‘gatekeeping’ around like people throw around ‘woke’ today. It’s really really annoying when most don’t even understand the definition.
And thank YOU as well. :) Yep, definitely NOT a gatekeeper. Gatekeepers are the worst, and so are people who toss out words they don’t know the definition of.
Incidentally, you and @SilverEyes are among the highlights of this forum.
Thank you so much. Very gracious of you and I must say I didn’t expect this. I’ll take this opportunity to say that I’ve always found your posts to be extremely well written and thoughtful and I’ll certainly include you in the highlights. Of course Tiger2 has earned his place there too.
Well, thank you! That is much appreciated.
I’m watching Doom Patrol and this movie could be good if it has Doom Patrol’s sensibility. They did say they are doing that, right, Doom Patrol of Star Trek?
I was going to start watching that a few years ago because so many people said it was good. I just never got around to it. It sounds like you really like it though, should I try to watch it again?
I’m only halfway through the first season, but so far everything is interesting, and seems like it’s heading somewhere. (I think I know, but I read a spoiler or two). I love the fact that it’s full of characters, charm and darkness. It can go to a serious place of f’d up ness, and then “make fun of its universe.” So… maybe try it again?
Ok thanks. Yeah I do still want to try it. But I honestly forgot it existed until I read your post lol. Just shows how much content is out there these days. But from all accounts it does sound like a fun and quirky show.
Can’t wait to read it.
SAME!
It’s still such a weird concept. Imagine a show where the protagonist snatches Adolf Hitler form a different timeline because he reminds him of his dad. Then – a few years later – Adolf Hitler gets his own movie, where he’s a secret agent, saving the world and we’re supposed to root for him.
And that’s not even mentioning how much Kurtzman hasn’t understood the S31 Episodes on DS9 or how terrible Yeos acting is in that role.
I couldn’t have said it any better. 👍
That’s the most erudite comment I’ve read on the matter.
It would really need to be a protagonist from an alternate timeline snatches *our* Hitler.
My how the posts have become toxic and weird.
A bit like Section 31 then?
I’ll probably wind up checking this out. I have Comixology Unlimited and they have all of the IDW Star Trek comics on there to read with the price of a monthly subscription. I’ve read the Discovery comics and they weren’t bad. The only thing is that I don’t like the concept of the Section 31 movie. The thing that I liked about Section 31 was that they were, basically, spies. One man or woman in, one man or woman out. If you got caught, you got disavowed, just like what would happen to real spies if they got caught in reality. But Section 31 is a team now. They’re supposed to be like the Suicide Squad. Here’s the thing, the Suicide Squad doesn’t really exist. Supervillian’s aren’t real. And there is nobody in real life putting microchip bombs into people’s brains to control them and keep them in line. That’s all fantasy. Section 31, originally, was supposed to be like the CIA. At least that’s the way I saw it anyways. They did the dirty work for Starfleet and the Federation that spies do in real life all the time for governments around the world. Spies don’t do teamwork. Because then there’s a higher chance of something going wrong. But this Section 31 movie is all about teamwork apparently and that’s one of my main issues with this concept being made into a movie. Also, I really, really loved William Sadler as Sloan on DS9. He is what made those episodes so special. Without him, it just feels hollow to me. I didn’t even like the Enterprise episodes that had Section 31 appear in them because it wasn’t the same without William Sadler. Also, it felt like they were shoe-horning in Section 31 in those episodes of Enterprise that they were in. You didn’t hear anything about Section 31 in the first three seasons of Enterprise and then, all of a sudden, the show’s ending so let’s throw everything and the kitchen sink in. And making Reed a member of Section 31? C’mon!!! If anybody was a member of Section 31, it should’ve been Trip. Especially after what happened with the Xindii attack and losing his sister. That would’ve made the most sense and been the most logical choice. But, no, they go with Reed instead and go with the story that he was recruited at the Academy. That’s so weak, man!!! And the guy who was hiding in the shadows when Captain Archer told him to leave Reed alone didn’t come off to me as being too sinister or mysterious either. Sloan wouldn’t’ve allowed Archer to speak to him the way that he spoke to that mysterious Section 31 guy. He would’ve checked him by revealing some dirty secret about him which is what real spy work is. But that’s not what Section 31 is anymore. Now they want us to empathize with them and go on adventures with them and I just don’t feel like that was the original idea or concept for Section 31 when it was created by Ira Steven Behr and Ronald D. Moore. Also, I just wanted to say that I see people are upset about Empress Georgiou being a part of this movie “event”. I understand why they are upset. But Star Trek has always tried to make us empathize with the villains no matter how bad they are. It’s what makes Star Trek different from every other Sci Fi franchise out there. The idea that there’s good in the most evil of us. They did it with Khan. In The Wrath Of Khan, the viewers empathized with Khan’s plight because he had lost everything he loved – his wife, his home, his friends etc etc. People couldn’t help but empathize with him. The same with Gul Dukat. All 7 seasons of DS9 could essentially be viewed as Gul Dukat’s descent into madness. He loses his daughter, Ziyal, his military standing, his other family, etc etc. He lost everything too. The Borg, Adonis, Species 8472, Kevin Uxbridge, the Klingons after Star Trek VI, the Romulans post-Star Trek 2009, the Bajoran terrorists that attacked and killed the Cardassians during the Occupation, the Dominion etc etc. Every one of them has a story that justifies their actions. Are they right? That’s not for me to say “yes, they’re right” or “no, they’re not”. I’m just a viewer and a Trekkie since 1991 and I realize that these are just fictional characters. They don’t really exist so there’s no reason to get upset when there’s more pressing things going on in the real world like 3 different wars and a major election that every one should vote in. This is just a story. Star Trek is just a story. It’s all fiction and Paramount is going… Read more »
I wanted to include an addendum to my above message. Trekmovie is not letting me edit my reply so I needed to make an addendum in another message. I made a mistake above when I listed “Adonis” as one of the many villains of Star Trek that garners empathy. It should be “Apollo” actually.
And “Adonis” should be spelt “Adonais”. My mistake. Also, I wanted to include the Mirror Universe in my list of Star Trek villians that we’re supposed to empathize with but I was typing too fast on my smart phone 📱 and forgot to put it down. Sorry 😞 for any confusion that I caused.
Live Long And Prosper, Trekmovie 🙂 🖖
Oh and just curious, why do you think the Borg have a justification? Perfection is a very hollow justification, and Queenie being lonely so she enslaves trillions of people isn’t either.
Rewatch Picard season 2 and then tell me that Alex Kurtzman doesn’t try to get us to sympathize and empathize with the Borg or Borg Queen’s plight, Pontificus. Or how about in Picard season 3 when it’s said many times over about how the Borg Drones have no control over their actions post-assimilation and how the Drones are victims of the Borg Queen’s ruthless tactics to advance a dying species. That sounds to me like another example of empathizing with the Borg in the Kurtzman era. Also, I didn’t say we were meant to empathize with the Borg Queen.
My words exactly were “the Borg were meant be empathized and sympathized with”. I didn’t mention the Borg Queen. There are millions of Borg in the universe. Perhaps I was talking about Hugh or Seven of Nine or Chakotay?
Or how about Locutus himself 🤔? Maybe I meant him? Or maybe I was talking about Jack Crusher, the son of Locutus and the Borg Queen?You really should read the whole reply first before jumping on my back and trying to disprove my words, Pontificus 🙂.
Live Long And Prosper,
Pontificus 🙂🖖
Star Trek doesn’t always want us to empathize with villains. Most of them are sympathetic on some level, or at least have moments of vulnerability, but not all. Kivas Fajo, Seska, Maj Cullah, Narissa, Osyrra, Armus, Ardra, Admiral Marcus, etc. The Borg Queen (Prime timeline) cackles and dies screaming “NOOOOO!”
The majority far outweighs the minority, Pontificus. Especially if you go all the way back to TOS. The Gorn were villains who we empathized with even though they destroyed a Starfleet base filled with hundreds of people at Cestus 3. But we empathized with them because Captain Kirk learned that we were taking their home from them and encroaching on their territory so they felt threatened.
Miri and those children on the planet with Miri are another example of us eventually empathizing with their plight. We wound up empathizing with them even though they were cold-blooded murderers, like the Gorn, but, because they wound up contracting a fatal disease that drives them mad when they reach puberty and death by adulthood, they weren’t responsible for their actions.
These are just two more examples of how Star Trek wants us to see the best in everybody – yes, even the bad guys, Pontificus. And Kivas Fajo was redeemed,so to speak, by the end of “The Most Toys”. Rewatch the episode, Pontificus. He winds up giving Captain Picard what he needs by the end of the episode.
Lovely chatting with you again 🙂.
Live Long And Prosper, Pontificus 🙂 🖖
Fajo was coerced into doing so, not because he wanted to. He refuses to repent in the final scene.
Borg drones are victims, yes. They’re sympathetic; the Borg Collective is not. As an organization, it has no good justification for its actions, and may be the most black and white example of an evil dictatorship in the series, S2 alt reality version of the Queen notwithstanding.
So my statement still stands. By and large, Trek does want us to emphathize with the majority of its antagonists, but not every single one.
Your argument and your point is moot, Pontificus. You just agreed with my original statement. Re-read my first reply as I already asked you to do in my last reply to you. I said the MAJORITY of Star Trek villains have an empathetic/sympathetic edge to them and you just agreed with me so you are a troll 🧌.
And I never used the word “Borg Collective” in my last message to you. I said the “BORG” have an empathetic/sympathetic edge to them in the Alex Kurtzman era. Not the Borg Queen, not the Borg Collective. You’re obviously a troll 🧌 who doesn’t read the whole messages on here and you misconstrue what people say just to start an argument.
I’m through trying to have a logical conversation with someone who just likes to sow discord and chaos. Like General Chang said in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country – ” Cry havoc!!!! And let slip the Dogs of War!!!!!!
Live Long And Prosper (yes, even a troll 🧌 like you has the right to live a long and prosperous life 🙂), Pontificus
🙂🖖
P.S.-I shan’t be replying to any more of your messages because I know now you’re just a troll 🧌 who likes to argue so Goodbye🖖.
Still no mention of Teri Garr dying?
Exactly, it’s strange. The biggest Trek outlets are silent about this. And my question about the same thing went to moderation yesterday, never to be seen again…
Was Teri a controversial person? This might explain the radio silence, but I’m not aware of any scandals with her involved. I’m confused.
Teri Garr was literally in one episode. Of course it’s sad she passed and being a bigger star she is getting a lot of mention everywhere. But I don’t think it’s TM or any other site’s job to add a page for every actor that had a brief association with the show either when they die. And they probably mentioned it on their other social media feeds as I think they said they did the same when Patti Yasutake passed.
Did they mention it when Robert Lansing passed away? He was in the same episode, Assignment Earth.
Don’t think so. At least not here but maybe on X or something.
I think she said some unflattering things about trek in a starlog interview but other than that she would be well thought of, so far as I know. I loved her McCloud appearances and even remember her from the short lived sonny Bono show.
yeah – she was never really excited about her Trek time apparently
Wow I love how they’re handling this movie! First they tell us that Section 31 as featured in the Section 31 movie won’t resemble Section 31, and now they’re repeating the idiocy of the release pattern of the Abrams films by including crucial information in another medium! Great. Great choices all around.
What I really want is a tie in comic detailing what The Doctor has been up to for all these centuries.
I have to applaud Alex Kurtzman and his team – they are purposely making a film which will be universally panned, in order to make Star Trek V not the worst of the Trek movies. In fact, making it look like one of the best in comparison. BIG respect for doing that.