Classes are out of session for the first season of the upcoming Paramount+ show Star Trek: Starfleet Academy.
The Academy is closed
The news that production has wrapped this week first came from members of the cast, who have been sharing images and videos from the season 1 wrap party in Toronto. Cadet actress Bella Shepard posted on Instagram “Wow oh wow!! Season one of Starfleet Academy is wrapped!!! Thank you universe, thank you stars for this insane journey and all of the people I shared this with💫”
You can check out her Instagram slideshow below, which includes some wrap party video with other cast members including Tig Notaro, who joined the show from the one it was spun off from, Discovery.
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Co-star Zoe Steiner shared a photo of herself in front of the Star Trek Stage at Pinewood Studios where the series is produced, with the message on Instagram: “beyond grateful to have had this HUGE experience alongside my starfleet fam … it’s easily been one of the most challenging and fulfilling things I’ve ever done ~ on both a creative and personal level. big love to the entire crew and production team for their insane commitment and hard work, creative collaboration, and consistent support throughout the process. 6+ months & lots of 12 hour days on set, i’m feeling very blessed…and sleepy, live long and slay.”
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The first season of Starfleet Academy went into production in late August of last year and was expected to wrap this month, so it appears things remain on schedule. The first season of the series will consist of 10 episodes and is expected to premiere on Paramount+ some time in 2026. A second season is already being written, and co-showrunner Alex Kurtzman told TrekMovie he expects it to go into production by mid-year.
The series has an extensive cast led by Oscar winner Holly Hunter. Oscar nominee Paul Giamatti plays the main villain for the first season in a recurring role and Emmy winner Tatiana Maslany also has an unnamed recurring role. There are several legacy Trek actors in the cast, including Voyager’s Robert Picardo as well as Discovery stars reprising their roles: Tig Notaro (Jett Reno), Oded Fehr (Admiral Vance) and Mary Wiseman (Sylvia Tilly). They are all joined by the young actors playing cadets: Sandro Rosta, Kerrice Brooks, Bella Shepard, George Hawkins, Karim Diané and Zoë Steiner. WWE champion Becky Lynch also has a recurring role.
Academy cast and producers at table read (John Medland/Paramount+)
The new series is set in the 32nd century (as established in Star Trek: Discovery) at a newly revived Starfleet Academy in San Francisco. Here is the official synopsis for the series:
Star Trek: Starfleet Academy introduces viewers to a young group of cadets who come together to pursue a common dream of hope and optimism. Under the watchful and demanding eyes of their instructors, they discover what it takes to become Starfleet officers as they navigate blossoming friendships, explosive rivalries, first loves and a new enemy that threatens both the Academy and the Federation itself.
Academy cast and producers at Star Trek Stage in August, 2024 (John Medland/Paramount+)
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Beer, college sex parties and farts.
Are you describing your Super Bowl weekend?
Haha yeah!
I feel like I missed out. I went to a number of parties in college, none of them were sex parties though…
I went to a lot of parties in college, and unfortunately, none of them were sex parties.
Still sounds better than a Kolvoord Starburst
Your college was much more interesting than mine.
Did the recipe for synthehol get obliterated by the great burn or whatever they called that thing that happened in the latter part of the third millenium on TREK?
Now that I have had time to think about it and reflect on all the posts from people who tried watching it, perhaps history will consider s31movie to be the real great burn of trek.
A Kurtzman cried out in anguish and all of Trek exploded.
Somebody who hasn’t been to College.
That worked for me in college in the 80’s…
Sounds exactly like what Gene Roddenberry had in mind where the thing called “Star Trek” should head to.
Can’t wait to see this.
Anything with Picardo is a must watch.
Great actors. Really hope this show production has a good writing team.
The cast seems great. The premise seems interesting. The connection to Discovery seems…very unappealing.
Ha yes, agree with that!
I don’t like the era or the premise of anything post burn. But yeah the cast and the premise of the Academy formation seems interesting. In any other era it would seem cool.
Yup, well said. Exactly.
Star Trek: Picardo
That is the only reason I will want to watch a show in that setting and made by the Discovery and Section 31 people. I don’t expect the Doctor to be the same after hundreds of years but am still hoping they don’t ruin the character.
Yep it’s the only reason why I care about this show right now is because Picardo is back. My guess is it’s why a lot of people are more excited now if they didn’t already care about this show before.
It will be interesting to see how much the Doctor has changed in the last 900 years.
I’m gonna laugh so hard if he still doesn’t have a name or even harder if his name is Joe hahahahahaha!
Amirami!!!!
Where you been bro? I been thinking about you for a week now. I haven’t seen a post from you since Section 31 premiered. Been curious of your thoughts but I already think I know what they are lol.
Yeah it will be funny 900 years later he still doesn’t have a name…but these things takes time lol.
Sorry Bro, I’ve been SOOOOO busy!
hopefully more character development for him than in 7 years of Voy
The Doctor got tons of development on Voyager. It’sa big reason he’s so popular today. He even added an addition to his program, the best development any hologram could get! 🤣
The actor developed the character but scripts didn’t help, ‘re set button’ pressed constantly to ignore implications
He was just as developed as Data was. He went from software that was only supposed to fix people up to being his own person with a full personality, interests, friendships and even fell in love. He essentially became sentient in the process. The Doctor had one of the best arcs in Star Trek.
But we can agree to disagree.
The Doctor is not only well developed he is one of the few characters in the franchise that didn’t have a back story of any kind for obvious reasons. He was essentially a baby in his first season of Voyager and they could just do whatever they wanted with him. Everything we learned about him happened on that ship.
Now the irony is next time we see him 800 years in the future, he could have more back story than probably every Star Trek character combined minus Dax lol.
This is what makes Star Trek soooo much fun! :)
Perhaps he’s been turned off and it’s like a moment for him?
That’s actually a good point too. Maybe he’s been deactivated for centuries now.
I still wish it would be the Doctor from Living Witness.
Definitely a missed opportunity. Maybe they’ll have him feature in a future plot line or at least some references to him being out there, living his best life.
Yeah I think we’ll see the Living Witness Doctor on the show eventually. At least it’s possible now.
It’s a little surprising he never showed up on Discovery though. Talk about a missed opportunity.
Maybe they will both be in there?
It’s possible they could still bring him in, like in a dual role he plays. You NEVER know.
🤞
Pretty please with a cherry on top!
Same. I’ll give it a chance for Picardo, Holly Hunter, Paul Giamatti, and Tig Notaro.
I don’t care for the premise at all.
I’m looking forward to hearing them talk about how they’re big fans of Star Trek, and photos of them giving the Vulcan salute.
I’m waiting for one of the cast to tell us that it’s not the Star Trek that we want and how scared they are about the fallout, before we’ve seen anything!
Can’t be worse than Section 31 right?
Right guys? It’s not being written or directed by those guys who made that is it?
If it were worse than Section 31, that would admittedly be an impressive achievement.
I have to admit tho that cameo at the end did stun me. Pun intended.
I’m surprised no reviewer described that cameo as being PERFECT, but maybe no one but me even remembers that movie she did in the 80s with Travolta.
lol not to mention a few movies she did with a certail captain kirk mask ;)
I do, and as far as I’m concerned there was only one reason to watch that movie back then…
SLASHFILM has actually got an oral history of PERFECT on their site. It is mostly about URBAN COWBOY, but even so, I’m amazed they remembered it.
BTW, I grew up with a store with the name Kmart. Just saying,
I’ve probably mentioned it here previously, but I used to manage a WaldenBooks in the mid-80s, and there was always a ton of stuff to sign off on, so I gradually shortened my actual name till I was just putting my first initial and then a smear for my last name (my handwriting has always been excruciatingly bad, so in all truth it usually looks like a smear), so it actually looked like I was writing ‘KMart.’ THEN, Carter-Hawley-Hale sold Waldenbooks to Kmart, and believe it or not, a couple months later I started getting shit about how I signed my name from upper upper management.
We got a new district manager about that time, a guy who had no business being in the role but was apparently a buddy of the regional director (himself a very nefarious customer who hobnobbed with politico and was a real schemer, and who lasted there till at least the end of the century, ruining a whole lot of lives along the way according to one of my oldest friends, who was with the company in one form or other for well over two decades), and I, along with 10 other managers in our 13 store district were soon ousted, leaving our district, which had been #1 in the whole country for the whole three years I had been there, to plummet precipitously downward. Business as usual, I guess. Company did really stupid things, like opening up a second store in the same mall, just to keep a rival chain, B. Dalton Bookseller, out of the location, and basically started hurting their own bottom more than the undercutting upstart rivals Crown Books and BookMania ever did.
Have no idea how much my signing Kmart went into all this, but it is kind of a self-reminder to me about chaos theory and how stupid little things have the potential to affect bigger things in consequential ways. I got a lot of crap about the username over 20 years ago on a different trek website that I practically lived on, and wound up switching to Trevanian (one of my fave authors), but when I started here it just seemed right to go back.
I do have one good memory of K-Mart … they usually had the very best prices for Super-8 sound movie film. There was actually still a working store up near where I live now as recently as 15 year back, and it was like a time warp to go in there. It looked like it hadn’t been painted in decades and three-quarters of the fluorescents had burned out.
The still publicity images do not inspire confidence.
The letterman jackets and such evoke a high school setting, not a college setting, much less an academy for one of the uniformed services. The lowermost photo, with the cadets doing all the weird poses, does not suggest a service academy. Now, granted, they’re out of character, but method acting is a thing.
At this point, I’m undecided as to whether I’m even going to bother. If I do, and it sucks, I’m unlikely to give it a grace period beyond a handful of episodes.
I doubt that they would show off actual costumes this way. The letterman jackets are probably just swag for the cast and crew. Maybe a wrap gift.
Actually looking forward to this, as hopefully it will flesh out the 31st century a lot better than Discovery did. Honestly, that is one of my biggest gripes of DISCO season 4-5, the near complete lack of any significant world building. Even season 3, while a bit better as a result of having to jump from point A to point B in an attempt to solve the burn, really didn’t do a great job of flushing out what the galaxy is like in the 31st century.
However, what I really want to know is when SNW season 3 is going to premiere!
I’m scared of SNW S3. I LOVED S1 but honestly S2 kinda let me down. And from how they are talking about doubling down with S3, it doesn’t bode well for me personally liking it.
Same here. S2 of SNW took a nosedive for me, so I’m hoping for some actual good writing out of S3. A fool’s errand, I’m afraid.
Yes same. I didn’t think season 1 was all that great but it had some moments at least. Season 2 was a major downturn from even that and I just don’t see it recovering; especially the mess they made with Kirk and the Gorn while they turned Spock into a joke. They might as well be in another universe.
SNW feels like a very empty and bland show that is trying so hard to capture TOS but none of the substance that show had. It looks pretty ar least.
That’s the main reason why I stopped watching SNW.
They were wrapping on filming S2 while S1 was still being released. It gave them zero chance to adjust anything based on how the audience reacted.
I liked a lot of SNW, but some of the more perplexing things they decided to do really turned me off. It’s clearly the stuff the writers and producers liked the most, because they doubled down on almost everything I didn’t like in S2. Life’s too short to waste it on a show I barely like.
I know. I love that they respect a lot of TOS. But come on. The gorn? they found them before Kirk ever fought them? They don’t care about canon in the slightest.
I really don’t care about the Discovery verse or the 32nd century but I am trying to keep an open mind about this show. The cast seems great though but that’s all I care about so far.
I still think it would’ve been a better idea to cancel this and make a Legacy show since more fans seem to want that but too late now.
I miss the days when I looked forward to new Star Trek and not be worried about how bad it might be.
But hopefully my mind will be changed.
Hey, good to see you again! It’s been awhile. 🙂
And I completely agree it would still make much more sense to make the Legacy show over this idea. This can be good but it’s obvious most people don’t really care about this just like most didn’t want the Section 31 thing and we see what a disaster that was. Now I’m getting the same worries about this now.
Speaking of Section 31, I don’t think I seen any posts from you about it here. Did you watch it? But I remember reading a post you wrote saying if the reviews were bad then you weren’t going to watch it…which means you probably didn’t watch it lol.
I couldn’t get through it still the weekend till I could have a few beers. What a waste of good beer!
This tells me everything I need to know about that movie and why its just not worth my time.
Haha I see it wasn’t for you after all.
At least you got a little drunk to watch it. I should’ve thought of that.
This is true. A couple of beers would have definitely helped while watching that train wreck. Sadly I watched it in the morning. And just sadly, I watched it.
Yeah same.
yup yup yup
LOL yup yup. But that’s just cause Leo died and I miss him :(
Hello dear, it has been awhile!
And no I have not watched it. But I actually said I wouldn’t pay to watch it if the reviews were bad. I haven’t had Paramount + since the end of last April and had no intention of paying again just to watch it but would wait until something I actually wanted to watch first.
However after seeing how bad the reviews are, even worse than Discovery, I no longer have any interest to watch it at all now. I read a lot of the reviews all over social media and it sounds even worse than I thought it would be. But we all knew it was going to be bad watching the horrible trailers for it. And I already spoiled myself on the entire story the day it came out and it’s just another generic story of the villain wanting to blow up the universe for revenge, the same nonsense again and again. NuTrek is completely derelict of original ideas, isn’t it?
Maybe when I get Paramount+ again I might change my mind but I don’t believe in just hate watching things and you know I don’t care about Discoverse or the Space Nazi at all. Its still appalling they gave a character like this her own movie. Even some of my friends online who liked that character still hated the movie and thought Yeoh was pretty terrible herself. So probably a skip altogether for me.
It sounds like you watched it. Did you enjoy it at all?
Anyway I do hope SFA is better than Discovery and that movie at least, but that’s not a very big hill to climb.
“It sounds like you watched it. Did you enjoy it at all?”
😂😂😂😂😂😄😄😄☺️☺️🫥🫥🫥😒😒😒😒🙄🙄🙄😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬
No. No I didn’t. It was a total 🤡 show as most of us expected from the beginning.
And like you I will never get the appeal of Adolf. She’s such a vile character and trying to make her ‘fun’ and everyone’s favorite former despot in the same movie she killed her own parents for power and burned off her ex boyfriend face is both sickening and tone deaf beyond belief. And yet she’s somehow surprised San wanted her dead like the other billions or so people she murdered, tortured or subjugated.
A big part why I didn’t like this movie is I was on San’s side the entire time and wanted him to kill Georgiou. If he did that I would’ve enjoyed it at least a little more than I did…but I digress.
I won’t go into all my other issues since I know it’s off topic and I railed on it now here and four other boards for 3 weeks now lol.
But I wish I had your will power and could’ve stayed away but I’m too much a blind fan not to at least watch it. However thanks to a Black Friday deal, I only paid $2.99 to watch it and fittingly my subscription ended the day after this dreck aired. Not giving Paramount+ another penny for a long long time now.
And I don’t hate NuTrek like I used to these days. I’ve actually enjoyed quite a lot of it lately, especially the animated shows and Picard season 3. SNW is a lot of fun too but don’t have the same drive for it like others since I never been a huge TOS fan and don’t love prequels much but it’s a better show than Picard and Discovery by light years.
So I want to like all of it and am hoping for the best with SFA. I really am. But Section 31 gave me the the stark reminder about everything I hated about NuTrek and Discovery in general. It tried to be something else other than Star Trek and worse it was simply bad.
I thought we finally moved on from those days even if you’re still not a big fan of the new stuff but it at least looked and felt like Star Trek again; but sadly we’re back to that era again. I’m hoping it’s just a weird fluke but it could be the new trend since Kurtzman thinks Star Trek is dying and the other shows probably isn’t drawing in new fans like they want.
His only problem is it will be drawing even less old fans as well if this the direction they are going in now. 🙄
Ha, I guess that clears it up.
Everything you said defys the trouble with that character and movie. Why are we supposed to empathize with that character? What has she done to earn it? Nothing.
She is truly awful and I don’t understand why the people making Trek thinks this a character we want to see represented as such?
Maybe if they actually developed her and gave us reasons to sympathize with her it may be different but they never bothered on Discovery.
She really should be in prison for all her war crimes at the very least and not running some bar. I like Yeoh as an actress and like her a lot in Wicked. That’s a great movie if you haven’t seen it yet, not like this silly movie and character.
Kurtzman has turned NuTrek into a mockery. Like you I have found some things to like such as Prodigy and Picard season 3. The rest has been an utter disappointment or doesn’t interest me as a fan. That’s only my view though. I certainly don’t speak for other fans and happy for anyone who enjoys all of it.
For me, Star Trek mostly died after 2005.
Oh and I did read quite a few reviews for the movie here as well the first week it came out. But I always try to make it a rule I don’t comment in review threads if I haven’t seen the show or movie and why you haven’t seen a comment anywhere from me about it in those. And no one cares what I think anyway. Why should they? But I’m always flattered when someone like you even want to know my thoughts about anything.
People here always make me feel included and part of the community. It shows how kind and thoughtful so many people are here. 🙂
And to be honest I enjoy more reading reviews from others than giving my own most of the time even after I watched something. And when I do I prefer to discuss the things I love over the things I hate (but happy to vent when I feel inspired or equally annoyed haha).
And its been interesting reading the constant heartache over the film although I am happy for anyone who did enjoy it. We don’t all have to like OR hate the same things and we’re still fans equally. But it’s very sad when it’s more interesting for me to read other people’s thoughts on a movie or show than watch it myself like this film.
“And no one cares what I think anyway.”
Well one person certainly did to the point he had a complete meltdown over it and became so obsessed and belingerent about it just because you thought a really bad TV show was bad to the point he got himself banned over it lol.
It’s still hilarious to see someone get so triggered in the way he did over someone like you who just posted a few thoughts like the rest of us but clearly never cared that much one way or the other.
And the best part of it, the former resident lunatic was probably seething over your thoughts about season 5 of Discovery before it even aired…and you didn’t even bother watching it! 🤣
It can not get any funnier than that. But this board will always owe you a debt of gratitude getting a bully banned who you never wanted to talk to or interact with in the first place. Again, the irony is extra thick.
Sorry to bring it up. I just love seeing bullies getting their just desserts. Even funnier because you are very kind and civil to everyone here. I just read your response to Amirami about his issues over Picard season 3 shows you just want to have a respectful conversation and not brow beat your opinion over everyone’s head like the former resident lunatic always did to basically everyone he disagreed with.
And I always want to know everyone people’s opinions, agree or disagree. But I have a feeling we would’ve agreed completely about Section 31 lol. But It’s why I come here. Me and you don’t agree on everything either (but yeah just learned we both think the Enterprise G is ugly and not big Jack fans lol). But if and when you ever decide to watch Section 31 and you end up loving it I would be happy for you. Like you said we don’t all have to like OR hate the same things. I would’ve been completely fine if I was the only person who hated the movie but everyone else loved it. I don’t come to message boards just to be part of an echo chamber or that my opinions have to be part of some consensus. Other people feel they have to be or they come off miserable and I just never understand that.
I became a Voyager fan when half the fandom hated it at the time and never cared about TOS that much even though it has always been the darling to most of fandom; at least with the old guard. I never felt slighted over it and more importantly most never made me feel that way. Most Star Trek fans are great people when you simply respect they are passionate but understand none of it is personal either. People will just have different tastes, live and let live and you’re find a lot of great people to talk to.
And the few who I do feel slighted I put on ignore and just move on.
And you’re absolutely right, most people are great here and why I get along with everyone these days. This board has a reputation of people hating everything lol. But I don’t see that at all. I think this board jas a huge love like LDS and SNW. Certainly Picard season 3. And like I said they are respectful of other people’s opinions even if others disagree with those shows. It’s all you can ask for. 🙂
Haha, touche.
That situation was just…weird. I have had plenty of disagreements with many number of people over the years of course. But never have I ever felt harassed and attacked by someone I never talked to or remotely cared about their thoughts on anything; especially since I was here such a short time. I didn’t know anyone here since I was new. That was the first time that has ever happened to me online.
Fortunately he was the only one here that made me feel uncomfortable and very creepy. Everyone else here though like you. kmart, Silvereyes, Tiger2, Ian, Danpaine and so many others have been great and always a pleasure to talk to even when we disagree. I really enjoy reading you guys comments and you always make me laugh haha.
I did plan to watch the last season of Discovery and watched the first episode. But after it was over I just remember feeling I just have no interest in this show and I thought the writing was still poor. Why am I forcing myself to watch something I just don’t like? And I just decided to stop after that. If I heard more positive things by the time it was over I would try again but it didn’t sound like it would appeal to me so never bothered.
Discovery is just a really bad show IMO and always has been. It still doesn’t seem to be well liked in the fandom now that it’s cancelled. I’m happy if others like it of course but it will never be for me I guess.
And I don’t really comment on eposodes week to week, especially if I don’t like it. I rather focus more on positive things (and why I did comment on many of the Prodigy reviews here) and I don’t comment on those every week either. I talked about Discovery episodes in the early days, but just here and there. And usually on places like FB with my friends.
I mainly just lurk here and read what others say and I don’t spend a lot of time on message boards in general. And I just started commenting at the time and didn’t know anyone and another reason I don’t have the urge to comment on anything much. I’m just more inclined talking to people I know or familiar with on a regular basis. I talk about Star Trek every single day on FB and mostly what we enjoy together and not hate. So we rarely discuss Discovery haha.
The only reason I joined this site because it was the only one making many articles about Legacy and the only thing that really interested me truthfully. I didn’t care about the other shows much but don’t mind commenting if the article interested me as this article did, but I really joined just to discuss Legacy basically.
“Most Star Trek fans are great people when you simply respect they are passionate but understand none of it is personal either. People will just have different tastes, live and let live and you’re find a lot of great people to talk to.”
Forgot to add this but this such a mature way to look at things and I wish more people could look at things this way. We all have different tastes, no one should criticize that, we simply disagree on certain shows and movies.
I have made my thoughts very clear on Discovery but I remember the times I was one of the very few Enterprise fans (at least openly haha) when so many hated that show like how many hate Discovery today. That show was called every different name in the book at the time and not nice ones haha. I never felt angry or hurt over it, I understand the show just didn’t grab people at the time. I loved it though and would defend it from time to time but had no qualms when others thought it was a bad show. I never attacked anyone over it, that’s simply how they felt about it. It’s very different today now but it took awhile for people to appreciate it. But I would be fine if I was still in the minority over my feelings on that show but thankfully it’s no longer the case.
But I also remember really not liking DS9 much at all when it came out. I was so mixed on it. Many of my friends swore by it and thoughg it was a good show. I remember feeling it just didn’t feel Star Trek enough and went against Gene’s vision. And I thought it was boring in the beginning and had trouble identifying with any of the characters although I liked some but it wasn’t enough. I stopped watching it after the second season and didn’t start watching it again until its fifth season. As I said I just don’t believe in hate watching things. Discovery wasn’t the first show I stopped watching. But I realized how great DS9 was as a show once I got over all my hang ups with it and really grew to love it and the characters. But it wasn’t overnight either.
Everyone has their hang ups. It’s not personal even it’s not fun being in the minority. I been on both sides myself.
TOS will always be my holy grail and what made me become a fan in 1968. But just like you, many people who became TNG fans later thought it looked too old and outdated including my own daughter. She’s watched every episode multiple times, but she identifies TNG as her show as most people her age do today. I imagine both of you are a similar age as well. We watched Picard season 3 together and she loved nearly every many of it. She loves the TOS characters and actually love the reboot films which I can’t stand but she loves that they made TOS more modern for her generation. I respect that (just don’t ask me to watch them haha). But they were made for people like her in mind.
And many young fans today can’t even watch TOS because it is very old now. I wish more would give it a chance but of course I understand why they don’t. It’s OK I’m happy they still fell in love with the franchise.
This is why I enjoy talking to people like you. You get it, it’s perfectly OK to cite what you think is not your thing, but respect as fans we will all different opinions of what that is and shouldn’t be questioned over it. But you have to give others the space to say what’s on their mind without taking some personal slight over it. My opinion isn’t about you, it’s about me and vice versa.
Great talk as usual dear. 🙂
I 100% agree with all of this. If people could just not get so triggered over other people’s thoughts and just be focused on their own, this place and many others would be better off for it.
Yeah we all have our likes and dislikes. More times than not, we are in the consensus on our thoughts on a show or movie, other times more of a lone voice. I been in the latter more times than I can count and I don’t mean just with Star Trek. But it only matters what you think, period. People who get too hung up on other people’s opinions are usually the ones who come off bitter and not fun to talk to. And usually the ones who get the boot off of boards because they spend too much time fighting with everyone.
But majority of fans are great to talk to. I actually enjoy talking to the people I disagree with WHEN they are rational, mature and civil about it. Yeah people will be very direct about things, but as you said it’s not about you, it’s about them. No one is out to make you feel sad because they don’t like DIS, SNW or LDS. They are just giving their thoughts on it.
I been on these boards since 2011 and for the most part it’s been great overall even when you have to deal with certain personalities and I dealt with plenty lol. But I love reading people’s thoughts, good and bad, even if it’s a whole lot of bad lol.
The more and more I think about it, I’m not sure I even want a Legacy show. I was loving PIC S3 when I first saw it for the nostalgia but for me it hasn’t aged well at all and it isn’t even that old. And that ending was SO BAD! The Enterprise G for me is just so ugly. I love Seven being Captain of the Enterprise I just wish it was a different one. But I think little JEan-Luc is a prissy little brat that I don’t care to ever see again. And the whole post Nemesis era (or post Star Trek 2009 Prime Universe era if you will) is so dark and dreary that it doesn’t feel at all like the STar Trek I grew up with (this is not me trying to say it isn’t STar Trek lol)
I agree with this. I really have little desire to see a series about the “Star Trek kids,” i.e., adult children of legacy characters. It worked as a coda to TNG, so that we saw where the 1701-D crew ended up after their Starfleet careers, but it’s not something that will work week in, week out, for years.
I definitely understand your thoughts on that. I agree with some of it as well. I just want a mature show again.
I do think a lot of NuTrek has felt too dark, Picard season 3 definitely included on that.. And thank heavens someone else thinks the Enterprise G is beyond ugly haha. I really hated that choice too. They should’ve kept it the Titan and gave Seven a new ship. But as the Emissary once said, I can live with it…if I must. I included the last part haha.
I also didn’t like Jack and he sounds exactly like one of my nephews. It’s uncanny actually. Jack just came off too smug for me.
But I suspect we won’t ever get that show now anyway, so you may get your wish on that. However it would be nice to get something most fans actually want. This show and Section 31 just doesn’t seem to be it either and it’s sad they will let Kurtzman keep mucking things up with bad ideas, shows and now another awful movie.
But I will try to keep an open mind about SFA since they are bringing back the Doctor for it. I still wish he could’ve joined Picard to reunite with Seven again.
I appreciate the response dear! 🙂
Thank you! I very much appreciate your comment!
A Legacy show could be interesting, but not with the current production company, staff or writers. And the foundation they’d be building on is rife with so much stuff I don’t like at all and is quite frankly stinks, that I think I’d rather they not even bother trying a Legacy show.
A completely disconnected series, with absolutely no direct references to a single event that occurred during any season of Picard or any other Trek property made since 2005, in the same spirit as Legacy would work for me. Basically a “Next Next Generation” set just past the classic TNG/DS9/VOY-era, just long enough past the Secret Hideout Trek that they can be handwaved away some day if the powers that be at Paramount want to carve out any of those properties into a separate continuity.
A 31st Century show would almost fit the bill, it’s set way in the future and could basically do it’s own thing, entirely fresh and separate from what came before. However, my biggest issue is that all that time travel nonsense brings all the baggage from Discovery and that era of Trek. No thanks.
I agree with all of this. I don’t trust anyone but Matalas to even make the Legacy show so if he’s not doing it then please don’t bother.
The people making Trek now are clueless and certainly anyone involved in making dreck like Discovery or Section 31. I just avoid that part of Trek altogether.
What I want is someone who understands that era and spirit of TNG, DS9 and VOY again which I thought Picard season 3 mostly nailed and why it’s so popular.
But I wish people stop saying people who want Legacy is only because we only want more fan service. That couldn’t be farther from the truth. I would love to see Seven as captain in the show but I would be fine if they stated over and moved the show to a new era with brand new characters. I would be happy if the show took place 50-100 years after Picard. Make it in the 26th century if you must, just keep it in the same spirit of the classic era and not what NuTrek is doing with forgetful junk like Section 31. Set it wherever you like, as long as it’s post Picard with all new characters, I don’t care.
I just want Star Trek to feel like Star Trek again. If I only wanted a show to walk down memory lane with legacy characters then I would care about SNW more which is nothing but a poorly made redux of TOS or the new comedy show that’s guaranteed to bring back a lot of them. I don’t.
I’m glad you get it dear. We’re not begging for the show for old characters; we just want mature, intelligent and thoughtful storytelling to return which NuTrek has largely ignored with some exceptions. People who made the Abrams movies and Discoverse have no clue what any of that means apparently.
Yeah I would be into this idea as well. I really like the Legacy concept and still hope it happens but I have no problems if they decided to set it decades after Picard either. For most hardcore fans at least, I truly think they just want a continuation of the events of the TNG era moreso than more legacy characters. Sure they will happily take that too but for most fans do seem to want something completely new.
And I’m one of the people who also likes having Trek in the 30th century setting. Not my first choice but the possibilities are endless what you can do with it.
For me I’m just happy it’s just not more endless TOS prequels like I was originally afraid would be the case when Discovery was announced. I love SNW even with my issues with it, but I always prefer going forward as I think the majority of fans do or we wouldn’t have four, soon to be five shows with now SFA doing just that today. I think we established long ago now most Trek fans are sick of prequels.
And I think a post Picard show is what most fans seem to want, even if it’s not what Matalas envisioned. And I think in time we will get something like that again.
This is not your great grandfathers star trek
This isn’t for me. However, I wish the cast good luck and hope it succeeds.
Such a lovely sentiment! Seriously! Too often people feel the need to be negative if they aren’t a fan of something. For me it’s too soon to tell. The premise doesn’t sound terrible but YA isn’t for me. However, they will have older actors so we will see how they balance the young adults at the academy aspect with older actors giving guidance.
Nice! If only more people had that attitude.
Dear Great Bird of the Galaxy,
Please remove Alex Kurtzman and his uninspired tenticles from Star Trek. Please send him away to Hawaii Five O and end his reign of medicority and fake fanboy posturing. Please bring in writing team that loves Star Trek and will return it to its core.
Do you really have any idea at all how tiresome this whining about Kurtzman is? Even a tiny bit? You (collectively) made that point over fifteen years ago, and he’s still here. Fifteen f**king years later,, apparently the Great Bird hasn’t heard you, or finds your supplication……lacking.
Also Hawaii Five O has been cancelled. I was actually enjoying that show in a shut off your brain kind of way. It could have gone on for several more years, although I am expecting a reboot sometime soon.
Unfortunately, only souls that are in heaven can honor a request like this.
I was never that excited about this show but after the Section 31 disaster I’m now terrified this can suck hard. I just have a hard time being excited for anything Kurtzman is directly making himself.
Just remember like JJ he grew up a Star Wars fan and look how S31 turned out. I could swear at one point I saw a light saber in there.
Haha funny! It’s a shame these movies have to constantly feel like Star Wars because they think it’s the only way to get new fans to care.
I know, it makes me cry
im sure the loud trek fans are already beside themselves with furiosa. youtube videos claiming it’s been cancelled. and kurtzman has been fired. this is not star trek. bring back something something. rinse wash repeat.
Cautiously optimistic about this one. But I mean, Picardo, Maslany, Hunter, Giamatti—what a cast! I just hope they won’t completely outshine the cadets. 😉 And please, keep the Discovery tangents to a minimum. (Though I always kinda enjoyed Notaro in that series.)
Wait these people are still making Star Trek? Son of a…
Honestly just reading the comments on this article – about a show none of us have even seen yet – completely proves my feeling that Star Trek is deader than dead. The fan reaction is muted, if not bristling with fear that this might be a turkey on par with S31. At least none of the early comments here have expressed much of an affinity for Discovery, Kurtzman, or anything produced in the last 8 years of this franchise. The only thing attracting old fans is Picardo – just another hook to string people into giving even a thought to this project they’ve slapped the Star Trek title onto. I can’t stand it anymore, honestly – what these people have done to my franchise is heartbreaking. Even if Academy is good, does it really matter anymore?
You’re sadly right on so much of it. There have been fans who hasn’t liked anything much in the last 8 years, especially Discovery. But then there are people like myself that started off cynical way back in 2009 because JJ verse was just awful story telling and continued that course with Discovery and Picard but FINALLY got in the groove the last few years.
But now I feel cynical again. And it’s not just because I thought Section 31 was bad, but because they canceled all the stuff that made me less cynical in the first place like LDS and PRO. I was so excited about the future after Picard season 3 because I thought Legacy would come next. Instead it never got developed at all.
And now we are getting things most of us never asked for like Section 31, this Academy show and the Starfleet origin movie. None of these things remotely excited me. We finally got Section 31 and that ended up being the dud most of us feared for years.
Maybe the Academy show will prove a lot of us wrong and we get something great. But you’re right, it’s really Picado coming back as the Doctor the sole reason most even care about it now. A lot of people seem excited to have Giamatti and Holly Hunter there too but until we know what they will actually do it’s hard to get too excited right now.
But you can feel the cynicism all over the place right now. But they just delivered one of the worst pieces of Star Trek in the last 30 years. It’s so bad even other reviewers who are normally more positive about NuTrek said that this wasn’t even Sta Trek. And they were right.
Hopefully season 3 of SNW is good and get more people engaged again but it is sad not even that show has more people excited these days.
Trek just needs a new overhaul. I think Kurtzman Trek has simply run its course, especially since they canceled the few things most fans liked or wanted.
This misuse of Yeoh and Idris Elba, and the outright miscasting of Benedict Cumberbatch, suggest that merely attracting an A-list star will do nothing without better writing.
SO why hang on? If you can’t stand it anymore … bye.
More people would feel more confident if it wasn’t the people who made Discovery or Section 31 behind this.
I just have no faith in Kurtzman or Secret Hideout and his version of Star Trek since it’s been mostly poor. I hope SFA will be good but I lost hope long ago.
And while the Doctor is a big reason any of us care about this show at all I’m very worried they are going to ruin that character they ruined others like they did Kirk and Spock on SNW. But I hope to be proven wrong and the character is honored like he was i. Prodigy and many like in Picard season 3. But those shows had good writers. Not so sure about this show yet.
My expectations for this are lower than a Horta hatchery. Especially due to its direct connections to the Discoverse and the creatives involved (minus Robert Picardo and Paul Giamatti).
We shall see.
Great to see this post by Shepard, not that I know anything about this actor and only a little about the series – but because the very first thing is see in this article is Shepard’s instagram photo with her wearing a SFA jacket with a Starfleet patch which “looks” like Star Trek!
I know it’s not much, but one simple photo gives me some hope for SFA. Even though I have not yet bothered to watch S31, not a single pre or post production photo connected with that movie remotely reminded me of Star Trek and Shepard’s photo does.
Btw kudos to Zoe Steiner who is clearly not intimidated by the cold and snow we’ve had up here in the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) for the past month. Bring on Spring!
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Please be good, please be good….please be good.
Although the premise has never interested me, the ambition of this production and cast leaves me optimistic. I welcome some innovation in Star Trek, I think the nostalgia has run its course and it’s time for something all their own.
I’m intrigued by this project. If they’d placed this during the ENT-TOS-TNG era there would be a massive amount of pressure to have multiple legacy characters popping in (and probably frequently), so they avoid it by putting it in the 32nd century, giving the series its own space to breathe and stand on its own. Putting the holo-Doctor in as a regular will satisfy that need some legacy fans have for that sort of thing. I mean, as a DS9 fan, if they put it during that time period I’d pretty much expect Miles O’Brien popping up somewhere as he left DS9 to teach at the Academy, and we know Colm Meaney not interested in Trek anymore…
And no the Discovery characters don’t count as legacy characters to me, though some might feel differently.
Plus, Paul Giamatti, who is great, so I have to tune in just to see his performance – in fact he is the main reason I’m interested in watching it at all. He’s been terrific in a lot of things, such as John Adams… Let’s hope they make the most of the opportunity to do something good here. I’m sure there are people already queued up to say that if its Kurtzman and Co they’ll screw it up, but unless you have a time machine to take you to the future, watch and report back, you can’t know for sure how well it’ll turn out.
Going in with no expectations whatsoever. Hopefully the cast will do their best with what they’re given. No faith in the showrunners.
I am looking forward to this. Prodigy was geared toward kids, yet it exploded and fans loved it. Given the star power of the Academy cast, I have a feeling we are going to see a similar outcome. Can’t wait … and I love that it’s already been renewed for S2.
It hasn’t been renewed. Not that I’ve seen. The writers are writing, but I don’t think money is flowing yet. Correct me if I’m wrong.
And with the disaster Section 31 was, I have little hope this will be any better, just better actors trapped in another terribly bad show.
The only thing that gives me hope is very real possibility that Alex Kurtzman gets the boot when Paramount’s new owners take control. His track record deserves that.
Trekmovie reported back in October that the show has been renewed for season 2: https://trekmovie.com/2024/10/19/nycc-star-trek-starfleet-academy-renewed-for-season-2-tatiana-maslany-joins-cast/
I HATE 32nd Century. I HATE, HATE, HATE.
Words cannot express how little I care about this.
After S31 (which was the final nail in the coffin since 2016) I am now officially not a Star Trek fan anymore. I don’t care about the franchise. It’s ruined.
Same with Doctor Who, Star Wars, all the rest – all ruined.
There must be a lot of $$$ being lost. Hope it hurts ’em, at least. Hope it all gets cancelled.
‘dr who’ not ruined in any way, new season coming after that great Xmas special ‘joy to the world’.
If you don’t care, why are you commenting? I think you care, a lot. No worries, we all care for Star Trek, that’s why we are here.
Yeah, all franchises are ruined. The problem is the whole world, not you. Sure.
I wish them well but have zero interest in this or any current / future Kurtzman Trek. It has all been slop since 2009. No offence to anyone who is enjoying it for what it is, but this level of writing is just not for me.
I completely agree dear. Trek has been a parody of real Trek since 2009. Trek wasn’t perfect in its golden era of 1966-2005 but it was inherently Trek.
Sorry I shouldn’t say real Trek but just better Trek IMO.
Don’t mice words, tell us what you really think. There’s a ton if reviews saying that S31 wasn’t real Star Trek.
Haha
Yes, true.
Well after reading all the comments here, I’m not remotely surprised over all the skepticism and concerns people have for this show, especially right now.
All I can say is personally, everything we know, so far, has not drawn any red flags for me (unlike the Section 31 project which had several before we saw a single frame of it). In fact, every bit of news has actually made me more intrigued over it.
But yes, understandable why others are so hesitant over this show right now so I get it. But I do hope this is a winner obviously and can get people onboard. I see so much grief and even downright anger over the modern era of Trek these days and it’s disappointing.
They can still turn things around but since in all reality this show will be probably the only new project we get in the next few years at least and leading into the 60th anniversary, it will be a bummer if it’s not perceived well.
Kurtzman needs to come out, apologise for S31, say ‘Sorry, we got it wrong with S31. It’s not representative of our future vision and productions.’
Unless he acknowledges this was an unbelievably bad misstep, there’s no reason to assume this will be any better … or worse (we know it won’t be worse because that’s completely impossible)
You need to wait. Usually, if they do apologize, it is always decades later.
Like Batman & Robin, 20 years later. Actually that’s probably a good comparison for S31.
Yeah I do think they have to acknowledge how they got it so wrong at least. Not now or anything but certainly in the future. I just don’t understand how something could be this off brand and they expected Trek fans to like it. Nothing about that movie felt like it was a good idea. Even with bad movies at times you can still see the potential and good ideas they had for it even if it was still married by a bad script, budget issues, etc.
This is not one of them. The movie didn’t seem to have any great ideas. It just felt very unoriginal and poorly put together.
Either they’re in such a bubble that they were completely unaware of what they were obviously getting wrong all along, or they were aware of the fanbase’s astute objections but kept stubbornly doubling-down on their mistakes.
There are a couple of fundamental problems with the present version of Star Trek that can be clearly identified:
Firstly, it’s “gravitas”, or rather the lack of it. Ron Moore and (for the big-screen equivalent) Christopher Nolan know exactly how to make sure their work projects gravitas on-screen, both in terms of the overall directing/cinematography style and — crucially — the performances they encourage from the actors. To paraphrase Brian Cox’s famous statement in Succession, Star Trek needs to be helmed by “serious people” who can write “serious stories” about “serious characters”. This currently appears to be missing.
Secondly, Alex Kurtzman recently made some comments in an interview which are very revealing, and it explains a lot about what has gone wrong with NuTrek. Kurtzman claimed that the Trekkie audience basically consists of social misfits and this was the reason that similar “misfits” were chosen as the main characters in the Section 31 movie (in hindsight, the same rationale has also clearly applied to some of the other recent Trek shows).
Kurtzman’s claim is a huge (in many cases very inaccurate) generalisation about Star Trek’s fanbase. The reason Trekkies as a whole like Star Trek isn’t because they feel like misfits and want to see similar “misfits” on-screen that they can identify with. *Trekkies like Star Trek because they aspire to be like the main characters who were traditionally shown as exceptional people both personally and professionally, and because Trek is a form of escapism that depicts an extremely empowered future mankind whose civilisation & culture as a species is fundamentally better than the one we have now and exists on a much bigger galactic stage*.
For example, characters like Sisko and Picard are not “misfits” in the stereotypical sense, and they’re certainly not “awkward nerds”. They’re the opposite. The reason they don’t fit into their original formative environments is that they’re such exceptional individuals that they completely outclass those environments, and remaining there would have been a total waste of potential and capabilities.
So again, the bottom line is a critical lack of gravitas and a huge misunderstanding about Star Trek’s main fanbase. Those are the two core issues that need to be corrected.
Can it be done? Sure. Look at the Predator franchise for another sci-fi example. Two brilliant films at the start, followed by a series of so-so sequels. But “Prey” took a totally different approach from those sequels by focusing on seriousness and realism (plus some clever easter eggs about the real-life “animal mutilations” and “Skinwalker” allegations too), it’s rightfully received a lot of acclaim, and it’s successfully rebooted that franchise. So, in theory, Star Trek can be rescued too. As always, the way forward needs intelligent, insightful showrunners and writers. “Serious people” ;)
Hi Jai!
And yes agree with pretty much all of this. I actually mentioned one a few weeks ago one of the problems with SNW is that it lacks gravitas like the classic shows do. I described it as Star Trek lite and while it feels completely like Star Trek in every positive way it still feels more surface level and not substantive or serious enough. I like the show a lot but I understand why others don’t. And that’s another reason why I did love Picard season 3, because it had that in spades IMO. It just felt like a more mature show because the look, tone, dialogue and obviously the characters themselves gave it that in a way none of the other shows have. It’s another reason people want Matalas to keep working on Star Trek. It’s not just because of legacy characters or being back on another Enterprise, it’s his style that a lot of people like me responded to and want to see more of again.
The misfit thing is just a weird take to have why people like Star Trek. Yeah, it attracts more people in the nerd category than the jock category but that’s not because we’re weird oddballs who can’t talk to people either. I never watched Star Trek and thought Kirk, Picard or Janeway were social outcasts and why I watched it. It was quite the opposite. Most of those characters are well rounded and socially astute people who others look up to as exceptional. Picard is a private and guarded person but the show made clear he was actually very different in his youth and far from an introvert who never kissed a girl. Nearly every guy wanted to be someone like Kirk growing up because he came off exceptionally cool and good looking while also smart and a great leader. So to imply the Section 31 characters represent its audience or what they want to see when Trek has always shown the very opposite is simply false. Most of us aren’t ‘outcasts’ or look at Star Trek in that way. There are certainly characters you can say represent that for sure, from Spock to Odo, but in a deeper meaning than what Kurtzman is suggesting and they are the exception in Star Trek, not the norm.
As for Section 31 itself, they knew going in this idea was always a very divisive one from the beginning. That’s probably why it never became a show in the first place, because most people were against the concept and it starring a former dictator. Everyone knows all the issues a lot of fans had with both, so many of us thought that the movie would at least try to argue why either should be more accepted in the bigger Star Trek universe. Instead it just doubled down on the problems fans had with both in the first place. Well Section 31 is so watered down in this movie, it really didn’t matter what they called it but none of it was challenged either. And they did nothing with Georgiou that tried to make her more appealing but a reminder why the people who hated her still hated her. All of it just felt tone deaf beyond belief.
I guess the one ‘positive’ you can say about it is that after all this time of trying to make this thing happen, they finally got to put it out there to see it soundly rejected by the fanbase and now we can hopefully put this behind us. Maybe Georgiou herself will be back in some form, but I’m guessing any idea of turning it into a show or a sequel for the character are all but dead at this point. You can’t even argue it was well watched because it fell out of the top 10 most watched movies on Paramount+ after just two weeks and I mean worldwide, not just in America. It debut at #1 or 2 in most markets but died off fast after all the hardcore fans watched it. It had no legs at all. Even here, you would think a ‘movie’ would get a lot of attention and yet in the main review thread for it is only 300 posts. That’s a typical SNW or Picard episode thread count, not something people have been waiting literally years for to see.
Maybe if it was just a better made movie in general, people would’ve been more receptive to it but nearly everything about it is what people don’t want in Star Trek, the biggest being, well, its complete lack of Star Trek in a so-called Star Trek movie.
That’s right. Movies are a combination of so many different things, you can sometimes end up with a film that doesn’t quite work but there are still some impressive elements that stand out. Like the theatrical cut of Alien3, that film overall is a mess, but that doesn’t mean I don’t appreciate the set design, the performances, the soundtrack, the direction from David Fincher.
Or David Lynch’s Dune, also messy but I love the intricate sets, Brad Dourif’s performance as Piter de Vries, the shots they did from a distance with models in the foreground that made the spaceships look huge and towering, the other-worldy feel that film has.
Or even Star Trek V … the soundtrack, the memorable scenes with ‘the trio’, the scene McCoy has with his father…
But Section 31 has absolutely nothing going for it. Nothing.
It just felt more like a cheap Syfy or Neflix movie, something you watch out of boredom, not to expand the brand in any meaningful way. No elements stand out at all that you can at least point to the potential it had. It’s not to say there is nothing to like about it, I liked some of the scenes for sure, just nothing that feels remotely special either in a so-called movie. It’s all run-of-the-mill stuff.
I always admire your optimism and fairness Tiger2. You already know my thoughts on this show and I wish I could be as positive as you about it, but I don’t trust the people who is making this at all. Certainly not after what Section 31 turned out to be as you acknowledge.
But I will be happy to be proven wrong and as I said trying to stay open minded. But any extension of Discovery is already a red flag for me and certainly after what became of Section 31. Most fans didn’t want that and now we see why. I’m very afraid this show could go down the same path with the people in charge.
But I am always happy if others are excited about the future of Star Trek and a few peopleI know feel that way about this show too. They are exactly like you, positive people. I certainly want to feel that again too.
Oh yeah I definitely get where you’re coming from. I’ve always said I support Kurtzman more than others here because I did like he is trying to do different things with the franchise, but I know many here don’t like where he’s taken it either.
SFA would not have been my first choice or second or third lol. But now since it’s coming I am staying open minded. But take heed I also stayed open minded about the Section 31 movie and supported it too. And then I watched it. :(
I know a lot of the derision stems from Discovery since that show is still pretty disliked in the fanbase. I get it and not a big fan of the show myself as you know but hopefully this spin off will be something better and also a thousand times better than what we got with Section 31. At least that show won’t star a genocide murdering dictator but yeah who knows what the Doctor been up to since the 24th century lol.
Always great to see you! :)
Haha that would be funny. We did see the Doctor go evil several times when his program was tampered with. And it’s NuTrek so who knows Haha.
Yes there is obviously nothing wrong to remain optimistic but my feelings in NuTrek has just sunk to a new low. I don’t count LDS in that since I never watched it but Discoverse really does nothing for me at all. I like some of the characters like Saru (and heard he wasn’t even in most of the last season, another reason to skip it), but the 32nd century has no real appeal for me.
That is one of the positives for Discovery and SFA if that is just as bad, it’s very easy to ignore now.
And always great to see you as well!
The cast and what looks like a long, thoughtout filming….. Is it wrong that I have a good feeling about this? (Especially after Section 31)
Of course not. There is never anything wrong to be hopeful and positive about something.