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Interview – Roberto Orci On Why He Is A Trekkie & Making Trek Big Again October 4, 2007

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Interview,Orci/Kurtzman,Star Trek (2009 film) , trackback

Regular visitors to this site know that Star Trek co-writer and executive producer Roberto Orci isn’t just another A-List Hollywood writer, but is also a geeky sci-fi fan like rest of us. To find out just how big a geek he is Bob was kind enough to take some time out and talk Trek in an exclusive interview with TrekMovie.com. In the first part (of two) of our interview the screenwriter talks about his history as a Trek fan, his views of all the Trek series as well as his favorite books and episodes. He also discusses his insights into what has made the franchise endure and how that is influencing the approach to re-invigorating the franchise.

TrekMovie.com: Do you consider yourself a ‘Trekkie?’

Roberto Orci: Yes. I think you can probably put me and [producer] Damon [Lindelof] into that category.

TrekMovie.com: When did it all start for you?

Roberto Orci: When I was a child, with my uncle who could tell what Original Series episode it was just by one tiny moment in the show. He got me into Trek and I really got into it through watching The Next Generation. I had seen the movies, but the TV experience of Star Trek is the originator and Next Generation was going back to that. To this day I still feel that The Next Generation is the best television show from my lifetime.

TrekMovie.com: What was it about Trek that that attracted you?

Roberto Orci: First of all I am a sci-fi fan and there has never been anything on TV that has made sci-fi as relatable and respectable as The Next Generation. The humanity of the situation was never lost in the technobabble. The sci-fi and the character was always intertwined brilliantly and it is an example of how to approach all genre. All genre needs to have as big a character component as it has a genre component; be it sci-fi, be it fantasy, whatever.

TrekMovie.com: You got into the show as a teenager, did you Trek fandom extend beyond just watching the TV series? Did you collect or join fan clubs and that sort of thing?

Roberto Orci: I have every toy. I have an Enterprise phone. I have every phaser that has ever come out. I never joined any clubs, but I did go to Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country wearing a Star Trek shirt like a true geek. Christmas in particular with my uncle is for Trek. I don’t think a Christmas has gone by, to this day, that we didn’t give each other Star Trek stuff.

TrekMovie.com: What did you give him last year?

Roberto Orci: I gave him a DVD set of all the movies and, of course, a copy of the script

TrekMovie.com: Seriously? So he is one of the tiny handful of people who have actually have the whole script?

Roberto Orci: Well he actually helped. A lot of my part of the script is stuff I actually ran by him.

TrekMovie.com: So have you seen it all, every episode of every series and every movie?

Roberto Orci: Yep, well actually not all I haven’t seen all of the Animated Series yet.

TrekMovie.com: But TNG is still your favorite?

Roberto Orci: Yes


TNG – Orci’s first and still favorite Trek

TrekMovie.com: Do you like them all, do you have a second favorite?

Roberto Orci: I like them all, I guess The Original Series is my second favorite.

TrekMovie.com: You have talked about what you liked about TNG, let’s quickly go through the others. Can you give a quick thought on each?

Roberto Orci:
[on Star Trek: The Original Series]
For it’s time it made sci-fi part of television pop culture. And it was part of the civil rights movement. It was part of women’s rights. It was part of normalizing relations with the Soviet Union. It was part the ideal of a Federation/Superpower doing what is best for all life. In the 60s that was an amazing thing. It couldn’t have been more forward thinking

[on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]
With Deep Space Nine I loved that it was exploring the slightly darker side of Star Trek. It showed the cracks in the utopia which was interesting to me. It was pushing the envelope of what Star Trek originally meant.

[on Star Trek: Voyager]
Voyager I loved because it  was a singular experience of being separated from utopia. It sort of played a counter point by saying ‘oh you love everything about Star Trek, what if we separate you by a zillion light years.’ And obviously I loved the idea of the first female captain. It showed that all Star Trek had that kernel of progressiveness. What they were attempting was more complicated and as such was more fraught with potential pitfalls that were difficult to navigate for any crew behind the scenes. Still inherent in it is still the love of Star Trek. A good moment on the worst Star Trek to me is better than the worst moment on any other show.

[on Star Trek: Enterprise]
I loved the idea of the danger of the first explorations into space. In a way we are very much partners with Enterprise in spirit because it is was a prequel and because it is attempting to explain the origins of Star Trek. You cannot deny that they were the first to try it. Execution aside we understand the appeal and the value of trying to show how we got to what Star Trek was. Star Trek II was about dropping some of the look and feel of what was done before and making it much more naval and like a submarine and Enterprise  clearly was attempting to tap into that. In so doing, they were attempting to relate it as much as they could to our contemporary defenses and submarine captains…and that’s a cool idea.  

TrekMovie.com: You mentioned Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, would you say that is your favorite of the films?

Roberto Orci: I would say yes. In general for all of us I would say Star Trek II is one of my favorites and one of Damon’s favorites. For Alex [Kurtzman] and J.J [Abrams], who are fans but not as much crazy Trekkers as us, Star Trek II is an example of  the best elements of Star Trek. Star Trek II is a major touch point.


Star Trek II – an influence to the new team

TrekMovie.com: In another interview you mentioned Trek books. So have you read many of them?

Roberto Orci: Tons of them. I have them all in my room.

TrekMovie.com: Is that because Paramount sent you all of them?

Roberto Orci: No no no, these are things I have read for pleasure. Some of them I have read many times, never imagining I would be a part of it. When I found myself being paid to re-read those books – you don’t get luckier than that. That is a blessing.

TrekMovie.com: So what are a couple of your favorites?

Roberto Orci: My favorite one is "Prime Directive" and I would say "Spock’s World" is my other favorite. I saw your interview with Judith and Garfield Reeves Stevens and I think they are great. I have read "Prime Directive" three or four times and I think it is one of the best Star Trek stories ever…period. Here is an interesting tidbit. In casting we have to give sides out to actors [scenes from scripts]. But since we are being so secretive we don’t want to give real scenes from the movie so a lot of the scenes we have been using are from their books.


Orci…fan of the books

TrekMovie.com: Of course the books are not officially part of Star Trek canon, but as fans of the books are you guys going to grab any elements and give them little mentions in the film…essentially canonizing them?

Roberto Orci: We are actually still pouring through and we are going to do stuff like that for sure. Because it would be an homage to my and Damon’s view of Star Trek.

TrekMovie.com: Getting back to the shows – what are some of your favorite Trek episodes?

Roberto Orci: I love the one with the Romulans attacking the enterprise – "Balance of Terror." I love "Yesterday’s Enterprise." Also "Best of Both Worlds" where Picard becomes Locutus, but there are so many that it is hard to zero in. Those are certainly ones we have all referred to collectively.


New Film makers look to "Balance of Terror" and "Yesterday’s Enteprise"

TrekMovie.com: So as you guys are working are you regularly throwing in DVDs from the shows as part of your process?

Roberto Orci: Totally, are you kidding? Especially now that we are getting our crew up and running they are asking questions as well. And so we do refer to previous episodes as a kind of baseline and then see if anything needs to be augmented or is it ok as it is. Every single one of our offices has tons of Star Trek material and it is constantly being reviewed by us and by our consultants and our production designer, etc, etc.

TrekMovie.com: Trek is over 40 years old now and its been 20 years since you got into it. People are still talking about Trek when they aren’t talking about many other shows from the last 4 decades. What is it about Trek that makes it endure?

Roberto Orci: Well number one I think the characterizations of The Original Series became what we call internally ‘Shakespeare Characters.’ Spock and Kirk and Bones are Shakespearian in that they are so archetypal in their relationships. One of things we have approached Kirk and Spock with is like Lennon and McCartney whose background is also very archetypal. They have managed to become characters who are more than the sum of the actors, more than the sum of the writing, they are pop culture icons. We have read doctoral theses and dissertations on Star Trek and what it means. One of the common things we have read is that Star Trek was not just a TV show, but it was a commentary of our society at the time. Because it was disguised by science fiction you got to get a way with things like the first interracial kiss and a Russian you love and all kinds of societal boundary breaking conventions. But because they came through such a clever and entertaining show it was digestible to a mass audience. The fact that it still has a foot hold in popular culture means that it was ahead of its time.

TrekMovie.com: Back in the 80s and early 90s Star Trek was pretty big. The movies were hits and it was even on the cover of Time Magazine. Do you think Star Trek can be big again? Do you think it could be Star Wars big?

Roberto Orci: I do. Let’s not forget that Star Trek predates Star Wars. Sci-fi being palatable to a mass audience has to be credited to Star Trek. It laid the foundation to some degree for Star Wars. I think it can be big again. Trek is like Star Wars with its archetypal and Joseph Campbell-type characters. It started as sci-fi and got reduced to a human relationship and Star Trek was the first to do that. Star Trek can be as relevant and as archetypal today as Star Wars and as Star Trek was originally. Obviously that is a lot of pressure to put on ourselves, but we would not be going forward with this if we did not believe it could be as relevant and as cool.

TrekMovie.com: So you really think that, in terms of mass appeal, Trek could be as big as Star Wars or your recent Transformers film?

Roberto Orci: Transformers is a great example because it was a franchise that was existing and had a strong fan base, but that was a niche market let’s say. Because of that our approach was to re-invigorate it. We don’t think that there is anything inherently flawed at all with the soul that Star Trek has laid down. And we feel that if we can tap back into that soul, then it can actually be those things. Not only do we want to please the fans, and we are confident that we will have a movie that fans see in a certain way where their knowledge of canon is not wasted and is part of their enjoyment of the movie, but simultaneously the story has been developed so that it is also an introduction for someone who is not a fan or even someone who knows nothing about Trek or think’s it is dead. We think that it can be that because we think that the bones of the house are right and all it needs is some redecorating.

TrekMovie.com: What is that soul of Star Trek that you guys are trying to get at?

Roberto Orci: I think for all of us it is firstly the relationships. And that doesn’t mean everybody gets along. I agree with what J.J. has said: "it is about unbelievably impossible situations being forced upon a group of people who have to look beyond their differences to face the impossible." In a way everyone life has that sort of element to it. We all get through our difficult times with a little help from our friends. It is also what [Leonard] Nimoy said: ‘It is about different people facing the same direction in the face of events they cannot control." That was extremely relevant in the cold war and the sixties and it is as relevant now.


Orci thinks they can do for Trek what they did for Transformers

 

Part 2 of the TrekMovie.com interview with Roberto Orci (focusing on the new film)
 

Comments

1. Jen - October 4, 2007

You’re kinda cute for a geek ;)

I kid I kid, you are cute regardless.

Seriously, great interview. Nice to get some background and history. I’m not worried about the film, but I know some fans are. Hopefully this will help put some minds at ease.

PS- Paul as Scotty!! :)

2. Cully Hamner - October 4, 2007

I have great hopes for this movie, and I wish all of these guys the best with it. One of my biggest hopes is that if Mr. Orci has really done the amount of research he’s saying he has, that he’ll realize that certain devices are really played out– time-travel, for example– and proceed accordingly.

3. Ron Mosher - October 4, 2007

Great interview Anthony! Nice to know that there’s another fan out there who has found something he loves about all of Treks incarnations. Not to metion the novels! My room is full of them as well. Looking forward to part two.

4. The Realist - October 4, 2007

Every time this guy opens his mouth, I get this damn feeling of hope! I have believed for a long time that Trek can be as big as it was during the TNG highs, if not bigger. It has to be done right though, and I honestly believe in these guys, they show respect not only to TOS but TNG and the later series and that they will reference them as well shows not only respect but an understanding of all things Trek.

After they do the Prequal, I would love to see their take on the TNG era, a Titan tv show or movie.

But at the end of the day, I feel good.

5. Chief - October 4, 2007

MOAR!

that is all

/Thanks Bob

6. Captain Pike - October 4, 2007

It does my heart good to hear the movie is in the fans hand s of real honest to -to-god fans. I’ve been on the fence for a while but I’m leaning towards the positive side now.

I hope the higher-ups at the studio don’t interfere and screw it up.

Now if we can just get some confirmation that it will LOOK like out beloved TOS and not some Hollywood make over (like TMP)…

7. JCool - October 4, 2007

Great Job Anthony!

Hello Mr Orci!!

I hope they stick to Star Trek TOS and not Star Trek TNG theres a huge difference in that.

IMO:
TOS> TNG

and please no mention of Jonathan Archer or T’Pol in the movie *shudder*

Paul McGillion as Scotty!!!!!
sign him please!

8. TJ - October 4, 2007

I dont think a Trek fan could ask for more; that someone who obviously loves all things ‘Trek’ and is so obviously a big fan is helping to create this film! It makes me feel like a kid again, I’m giddy with excitement! I grew up watching Trek, I wouldn’t classify myself as a ‘geek’ but I took the ‘Cmdr Riker’ mug my grandmother bought me as a child to College and Uni! It survived halls of residence, countless shared houses and my first a(part(y))ment…and still survives to this day! Its my good look charm!

Kudos to you Mr Orci! And great interview AP!! Looking forward to part 2! :)

Roll on Xmas 2008!!

P.s. I agree with Jen, Paul McGillion For Scotty!

9. Anthony Pascale - October 4, 2007

I just want to say that I am very grateful that Roberto took out so much of his day (actually his evening) to do the interview and to do all the fan outreach he has done for this movie. Trek fans are always change resistant and so I really think he has done a lot to help people feel confident in the new team

10. Rhett Coates - October 4, 2007

Roberto,

THANK YOU. And your entire creative staff for the next Star Trek movie for that account!

If you could see me now: I’m giving you photo the Vulcan salute. But being human, with a warm smile. I felt from the get-go that [JJ & Co.] would do Gene Roddenberry’s vision proud, and you just acknowledged that in everything you said. Too many fans are “worried” that this saga is giong to be “messed with,” to be sure, but most of us were assured a rather long time ago — and you just hit the nail on the head for resting their concern: with the Vulcan IDIC: “Infinite Diversity In Infinite Combinations…” (that’s the key to survival), “…and the way those differences combine to create meaning and beauty” (—from a 3rd season episode of TOS; I’m sure you know which one). Leonard (as Spock) said it, and we S.T. fans usually choose to practice it in real life.

(I’ve been hooked on S.T. since Shatner, as Kirk, said, to Eve McCuran (in “Mudd’s Women”) that incredibly cool complement: “There’s only one kind of woman…or man, for that matter: you either believe in yourself, or you don’t.” WOW, what a nice thing to say to her, even after she caused so much concern! Man, I just had to come back next week and see what they’d tell [us viewers] next. That was back in TOS’s first-run as a Desilu series on NBC in the 1960s.)

I like ALL of the S.T. series, as a matter of fact: I feel that TAS, TNG, DS9, VGR and ENT are simply more of a good thing: The Original Series.

Yeah, I read the novels, too—and can already think of many amazing “links” to that material. We’re looking forward to what you present! Hey, my friend, you’re making me WANT to beam up, all over again!

11. Ed - October 4, 2007

Thanks Anthony for a great interview, and to Robert as well (for the interview and popping in from time to time). Reading this makes me believe that Trek is in good hands.

12. hitch1969© - October 4, 2007

Having read that interview, it is now clear to me that the franchise is in good hands with the OrcSter™. I officially give him the hitchworld© seal of approval. He’s well-thought and expresses his ideas eloquently. Very mac in the pants®.

BEST!!

=h=

13. last o' the timelords - October 4, 2007

A few years ago when I learned that Doctor Who would return I nearly wet my pants. Upon seeing the new episodes I felt like crying it was so well made and fresh yet still touched the classic series.

I have the very same feelings for this new Trek but with a shade more confidence this time that they will be doing it justice.

Godspeed, Mr Orci, JJ and the whole crew.

14. dalek - October 4, 2007

Very good first part, thanks. I think i’ll check out that book Prime Directive — as a rule or thumb I avoid most novels because they aren’t canon and they always seem to be about one of the captains dealing with two warring factions lol

15. Harry Ballz - October 4, 2007

This is going to be soooooooooooooo gooooooooooood!!!!!! WOO HOO!!

16. Tony Whitehead - October 4, 2007

Fantastic interview! It’s great to see that Mr. Orci has the same excitement for the possibilities that Star Trek represents and that he seems to have captured the “soul” of the show we have come to love.
I keep getting more and more anxious for each tidbit of news to come out, but simultaneously, I am antzy for too much news. I know elements are going to leak in the age of the internet, but I still dream of being surprised on opening day. Hope spring eternal!
By the way, congratulations on an outstanding site, Anthony.

17. TJ Trek - October 4, 2007

I have just recently been re-introduced to the trek novels, and am enjoying them emensly. The nice thing about more recent books is that they are filling in the gaps, and extending the shows after they were cancled. I am reading the DS9 relaunch novels, and the TIME TO… novels about the year before NEMESIS. Good stuff. Hardly cannon, but who gives a sh**

18. DJT - October 4, 2007

“But since we are being so secretive we don’t want to give real scenes from the movie so a lot of the scenes we have been using are from their books.”

OMG. LOL. That is good stuff. I remember reading all those books when I was a kid. Spock’s World – wow. Talk about old school. Takes me back a bit.

Beto, you are a cool dude in my book. Thanks for being real and for being a good role model to our peeps.

Buena Suerte. Peace.

19. Thomas - October 4, 2007

dalek,
I know just how you feel about the novels; I’ve only read Greg Cox’s Khan series. Now I’m tempted to check out “Prime Directive” and “Spock’s World”.

20. Aaron R. (Sisko for president 08) - October 4, 2007

FIRST!!!! What this is the first time I have posted in this thread! Awesome interview kudos to Mr. Orci for being someone who has the balls to stand up in a Hollywood where Star Trek is largly viewed as a laughing stock and say “No, Star Trek can be as big as Star Wars if not bigger.” and stick to the guns.

Aaron R.

21. dalek - October 4, 2007

Thomas cool, whats that like, I heard it ties in with modern day events and features Gary Seven. Might check that out. I did read the mirror universe Shatner-Reeves-Stevens novels and loved that trilogy, it was much better than the first trilogy. I’ve yet to read the latter one, although I hear its not as good. Not sure if I want to read the Academy one knowing its gonna be different to canon now.

22. DavidJ - October 4, 2007

#2, agreed.

The writer of Nemesis was a huge Trek geek too, but instead of coming up with a solid, original story, he just rehashed a bunch of ideas from the past that he happened to like (Data having a twin brother, etc).

Hopefully these guys will do a better job with their movie. The reason TWOK worked was because it was just a tightly constructed, down and dirty submarine movie with great characters. It proved you don’ t need to overload a Trek movie with a bunch of high concept crap involving time travel or alternate dimensions or evil clones.

23. Scott Gammans - October 4, 2007

I’m impressed as hell that Roberto took time out of his schedule to speak with you, Anthony. Great interview… I’m glad to hear that Roberto’s favorite Trek movie (thus far!) is WoK… that bodes well for the eleventh installment, imo.

24. OneBuckFilms - October 4, 2007

8 – This correct the mistake they made with Nemesis, where the director knew nothing about Star Trek.

Although the same risk worked for Trek II, Nicholas Meyer got the basics right with the characters.

25. Thomas - October 4, 2007

Dalek,
The Khan series not only ties in with real-world historical events, but also makes numerous references to all the Trek series, expect for the Animated Series if I remember correctly. Definitely worth checking out if you ever wondered (like me) where Khan could have come from and what he and his followers did to get banished from Earth. That’s covered in the first two books in the series; the third book follows Khan’s life on Ceti Alpha V.

26. CanuckLou - October 4, 2007

Awesome stuff! Thanks so much for doing this. Can’t agree with Orci’s comments on TNG’s treknobabble though. Sometimes the humanity did get lost because of it. Hope it is kept to a minimum or preferably not at all in ST XI.

27. JCool - October 4, 2007

No treknobabble!

28. Etha Williams - October 4, 2007

I have to say that when I saw “Balance of Terror” listed as one of Orci’s favorite interviews, my confidence in the movie shot up a lot….the Romulans changed a *lot* between TOS and TNG (it’s almost like Romulans and Klingon’s switched places) and, since it seems that Romulans will be a big part of thsi movie, it’s good to know that someone behind this movie is going to remember how Romulans appeared and the backstory given to them when they were first portrayed.

And I can’t wait to see bits of the novels canonized — my friend and I are HUGE star trek novel fans!

29. Jeffrey S. Nelson - October 4, 2007

Kirk has to have the familiar wave in his hair. Jesse Lee Soffer would be great with that look.

30. dalek - October 4, 2007

Thomas, thanks for that. Time to go on ebay and see if i can bag some at bargain ;) It’s amazing how much top merchandise goes for peanuts these days.

31. Kevin - October 4, 2007

First of all, I’d like to say thanks for the interview. (That’s for all involved)

I’m glad to see not only hardcore Trek fans involved in this project, but also passing fans and input from the actors who created these iconic roles. The idea of a passing fan… or even non-fan may worry some people, but they can offer a fresh perspective and be able to see whether or not non-fans would enjoy and understand it.

This interview, along with the casting news we’ve been privy to so far has lessened any worry I might have felt for this movie and the direction the franchise in general… of course, lessened doesn’t mean I’m 100 percent confident; But who really is?

32. Craig - October 4, 2007

It’s good that Trek fans are in charge of this movie. My favorites were DS9, TNG and TOS. Voyager I thought was ok. Enterprise I didn’t like since it never dealt with the Romulan War and I thought the 22nd Century was too easy for Archer and crew for being the first deep space crew.

33. Xai - October 4, 2007

#29 Jeffrey

You think Mr. Orci has a curling iron handy?
———————————————————————-

Roberto Orci,
Thanks in advance to you and the team. Loving the interview…the franchise is in good hands.

34. Viking - October 4, 2007

Star Wars, Feh.

It sounds like these guys have one helluva stew on the front burner. Orci cited more than one of my favorites from the various series, as well as the singling out what I, too, found attractive in each incarnation. Man, I am really starting to salivate over this film now.

35. Granger - October 4, 2007

Thanks for a very fetching interview that increases my interest in the forthcoming film. The exclusives this site offers make it truly special.

36. jonboc - October 4, 2007

Roberrto Orci – bravo on your choice of literary Trek! Prime Directive is one damn fine story.

And the quote from JJ about these characters facing the impossible is right on the money. The social parallels are ok, but it’s always the wild and imaginative stuations that I enjoyed, Just how WOULD one react to meeting the actual Greek god Apollo or having the your wildest dreams of the OK Coral come to life in the blink of an eye, with you in the role of the soon-to-be-executed Clantons? TOS was so good at that type of creative and imaginative storytelling where the impossible WAS faced and it was very real and very deadly. Space was a very dangerous place..as it should be. I couldn’t be happier that you, along with the rest of the production, understand that aspect of the show.

Oh yeah, despite all the heavy allegories and character dynamics, don’t lose sight of the fact that TOS was also a hell of a lot of fun. It never dragged itself down by being too serious all the time. It always struck the right balance of drama and adventure along with a bit of humor. Not jokes with punchlines, but humor in characters and their reactions to one another.

It sounds like you guys really have a handle on it. Looking forward to a fun, yet pulse pounding movie in 08!

37. T Negative - October 4, 2007

What a great interview!! It sounds like Orci and Abrams are serious about doing this thing right. I am extremely impressed with these guys.

38. JB - October 4, 2007

Good interview, but ye gods, ‘Prime Directive’ was pure rubbish. If his script is anything like the Reeves-Stevens’ mediocre pablum, count me out.

39. StillKirok - October 4, 2007

Did he read The Return?

40. Plum - October 4, 2007

Hope Orci reads Shakespeare too.

41. GarySeven - October 4, 2007

This is the most amazingly positive thread I have ever read on this site. Is this some kind of Mirror Universe thing? Except for #38 (which has a positive element in it), it is strikingly full of hope and good will. That, I believe, can only be a tribute to Mr. Orci. Thank you Mr. Orci.

42. GarySeven - October 4, 2007

The posts on this site are often so negative and confrontational sometimes to boot. So, another thought: for Mr. Orci to spawn such a positive post must mean a lot.
As the Great Philospher said, “Only Nixon can go to China.”

43. Bryan - October 4, 2007

Thanks for the interview, Mr. Orci. Not only do you show an obvious love for Trek, you’re also a class act.

44. JCool - October 4, 2007

Mr Orci

Are you by any chance a fan of the book Killing Time?

” A Romulan time-tampering project leaves the Enterprise (and the rest of the galaxy) in an alternate dimension, where Kirk is an embittered young ensign and Spock is a besieged starship commander. Together they race to escape the plotting Romulans and return to their original timeline, before the unforeseen effects of the Romulan project destroy the galaxy. “

45. Driver - October 4, 2007

Sounds promising. The proof, as they say, is in the pudding.

46. Beese - October 4, 2007

Wow, what a great interview, Roberto sounds like a great guy!

I’m so glad that there’s someone who’s totally enthusiastic about every aspect of Trek and hasn’t come along with the intention of shunning everything (or some things) that have gone before. Indeed it’s cool to know that he loves every Trek series to some degrees.

Even though I’m not the greatest fan of TOS (I still really like it), I’m really optomistic that this film will be really good, because although this film won’t be directly about the Trek I love most it’s got people behind it who love the things I love as well.

I think it’s great that there’s someone who’s really pationate about Trek behind it’s continuation.

47. VOODOO - October 4, 2007

I think it’s great that Mr. Orci is interacting with the fans + seems to care what we as a group think.

With that in mind I would read William Shatner’s “The Return” if I were him.

48. Nathan - October 4, 2007

Alright! The more I hear about this film, the more I start thinking that Star Trek is on its way to a revivial not seen since the days of TNG… Robert Orci, Damon Lindelof, J.J Abrams; everyone involved in the movie seems to be awesome and professional, and the actors so far look good as well.
This movie’s gonna rock!

49. DesiluTrek - October 4, 2007

“This is the Captain. We have escaped the gravitational pull of Berman-Braga purgatory.”

I love how Mr. Orci respects the social allegory part of Trek — I look forward to seeing what that means in an Original Series story in 2008.

When do we get any taste of the production design??? I hope they can see what makes the original series look so timeless, and retain that.

50. Warpler - October 4, 2007

#47 I agree and it seems a lot of the group wants to see a certain Mr. Paul Mcgillion, Jensen Ackles as Kirk would be great if at all possible IMO the best candidate by a long way bar none.

Please Mr. Orci and Co. Ackles and Mcgillion for Kirk and Scotty.
As for Bones well…….?

51. Izbot - October 4, 2007

Your Trekkie cred checks out! Naming a Reeves-Stevens’ novel as your favorite? Dude, I am right there with you! I feel good about this…

52. Harry Ballz - October 4, 2007

Just one cautionary note, Mr. Orci……after hearing what JJ came up with for his Superman script, please don’t let him give young Kirk a third eye or something else zany and wacko…..can your team try and keep the character in the realm of what Trek fans might enjoy and expect?

Mucho appreciated!

53. Kyle Nin - October 4, 2007

#32: “Enterprise I didn’t like since it never dealt with the Romulan War.”

Well, they canceled it before they could get that far. At least there’s the Romulan Trilogy episodes (“Babel One”, “United”, and “The Aenar”). They at least give you an idea of why the Romulans eventually attacked Earth.

54. Noleuser - October 4, 2007

Very enlightening, I feel safe now. I think Star Trek is in the right hands. It’s nice to know Mr. Orci has seen all of the Trek and has an appreciative and objective view of the franchise.

55. DJT - October 4, 2007

#44 – re: Killing time

another excellent book about friendship. ‘JTK luck walks with you’.

56. Raymond S - October 4, 2007

I was thinking – wouldn’t it be a wonderful nod to the loyal old-school Star Trek fans if Abrams/Orci included some of the original Star Trek music? I’m not talking about the main title and fanfare which have been used a few times since, but some of the fantastic music from episodes like “Doomsday Machine” or “Amok Time.” This would be a great ‘wink’ to the fans, and first-timers wouldn’t know the difference. Opinions?

57. Mercutio - October 4, 2007

Anyone that is a total next gen fan who is planning on applying next gen sensibilities to the original series is doomed to failure. “The humanity of the situation was never lost in the technobabble.” Gimme a break. Technobabble dominated Next Gen. It never got in the way in the original series.

Anyone see Transformers? No script whatsoever. Star Trek is over for fans of the original series. No one is Kirk, Spock or McCoy except for Shatner, Nimoy or Kelley. Children are trying to write a reboot of the classic series. Enjoy giving your money to them. I’ll just continue to watch the original eps over and over again. It will always be better than anything these guys are trying to pass as “original Trek.”

58. Lou - October 4, 2007

doing with trek what they did with transformers…

you mean cranking out something half-done that’s cool, but with no substance and bad innuendos?

59. Mercutio - October 4, 2007

It wasn’t even cool.

60. Thomas - October 4, 2007

I would like to apologize beforehand, because what I have to say may very well break the unique level of civility this thread has maintained until now.

I’ve been thinking about something lately, and I thought I’d put it up here to see what others think.
Movies endure countless rewrites, even after production is underway. If people thought Transformers had a lousy script, how much of that was from the draft they started production with, and not just stuff that developed with input from Michael Bay and producers, and what not? I don’t claim to have any big understanding of film production, but I do know that changes, sometimes big ones, are made to scripts for reasons that are either creative or budgetary. I guess what I’m saying is, just because Transformers had these tremendous visuals but a weak storyline, doesn’t mean that Trek 2008 will be bad. JJ and company are passionate about this movie, Nimoy likes the script, the casting so far has been good. There’s so much we don’t know yet, I think it is unwise(and unfair) to write off this movie so soon.

61. JBS - October 4, 2007

Great interview. Thanks Anthony for asking such good questions, and thanks Mr. Orci for being so generous with your time and enthusiasm. I am really looking forward to this movie.

Spock’s World was a disappointment to me. Isn’t that the one that had Vulcans laughing, expressing anger, and conspiring for profit and vengeance? Egads! Way out of character. Please let the Vulcans keep their dignity. I think it had Amanda making an off-color joke (“Nothing about my husband is little” And then once the joke was explained to Sarek, he was laughing. Give me a break.) Amanda would have been too dignified for that.

I have not read Prime Directive, but now I will have to check it out. I did like the Reeves-Stevens-Shatner book Revenge; and everyone stayed in character in that one.

Also glad you liked Balance of Terror; that’s how Romulans should be portrayed.

And, I like time travel stories.

62. RandyYeoman - October 4, 2007

Great interview and combined with the nimoy interview on this site a while back…I really think that it is pretty hard now to bitch and moan about these guys and their appraoch. Sure the movie might still be horrible, but they keep on saying the right things and so the ones still whining are just the negative folks who decided to hate the movie no matter what or the extreme pessimists.

…So thanks to Orci and this site for settling the minds of all the trekkers out there. You are really doing a service

…Now Lets start the reading between the lines!

Re: “Balance of Terror.” and “Yesterday’s Enterprise.” being ‘ones we have all referred to collectively’
Romulans and alternative timelines…hELLOOOOO. Sounds like a confirmation of the rumors we have been hearing.

RE: Star Trek II, naval, Enterprise’s submarine look
sounds to me like we are going to get a more cramped and realistic Enterprise….which is good for me

63. roberto Orci - October 5, 2007

57 Didn’t mean to imply that t got in the way of TOS. Only that much of other sci-fi makes that mistake.

58

Transformers was a faithful live action adaptation of the 80s cartoon.

64. roberto Orci - October 5, 2007

59
and yet we will be lucky if Trek matches its success

65. Dom - October 5, 2007

Great interview! I’m one of those unusual Trek fans, I think, who actually relishes change. These guys appear to have a really good grasp on what makes Trek work and I feel pretty confident that can translate to the big screen.

Hopefully these guys can refocus Trek in a way that the dire new Doctor Who series utterly fails to do. Nu-Who is an unfocused mess that is 90 percent campy and dreadful, yet throws up a classic like Blink or The Girl in the Fireplace in amidst the dross.

Nu-Who is frustrating and is actually a really bad programme, because it shows how good it is capable of being, yet usually falls short of its own high standards, slipping into blatant plagiarism of better American sci-fi and fantasy shows. That’s worse than a show with only average ambitions that manages to meet its average standards!

Plus, they shoot Nu-Who on 25i then apply a progressive effect when they should at least be using 25p as standard!

I disagree about TNG, but respect Mr Orci’s views. TNG, for me, always hinted at greatness but never reached it. I think it was hampered by pre-1990s storytelling, which relied on plot resets, so the status quo was back for the start of the next episode.

If it had been made in the mid-1990s, The Borg would have probably overrun Earth and trashed the Federation, Picard would have stayed as Locutus or at least still have had obvious bits of Borg tech visible on his body a la Seven-of-Nine and Riker and the Enterprise would have had to lead the fight back across a whole season or more!

Still very much looking forward to this film!

66. Cygnus-X1 - October 5, 2007

“When I found myself being paid to re-read those books – you don’t get luckier than that. That is a blessing.”

Amen.

Man, how cool would it be to argue the minutæ of Trek, for months on end, and have it actually be productive.

It’d be like the great Trek Convention in the sky…where all the bars are packed with Trekkie chicks, and there’s a new Trek episode on every day that’s as exciting, thought-provoking and emotionally satisfying as the height of TNG during its initial run….

67. Johnny Ice - October 5, 2007

Interesting read indeed. looking forward to part 2
article; In general for all of us I would say Star Trek II is one of my favorites and one of Damon’s favorites. For Alex [Kurtzman] and J.J [Abrams], who are fans but not as much crazy Trekkers as us, Star Trek II is an example of the best elements of Star Trek. Star Trek II is a major touch point.
Question to Mr Orci;
I do agree on Star Trek 2 is one off the best TOS movies and it is my second favorite next to TMP..
however my question is What is your take on ,,Star Trek the Motion Picture,,?
Personally i found it very underrated and under appreciated Star Trek film that for me is the closest Trek movie who has come to Gene Roddenberry’s view of the future

68. Chris Pike - October 5, 2007

Not only is the movie in the safest, talented and most creative hands possible, this whole team really are rescuing Trek from sinking into the black hole it was heading for. You’re our only hope…!

69. Iowagirl - October 5, 2007

Ah, Mr. Orci, after all, you know about the essential meaning of the triumvirate, you know about the vital importance of Kirk AND Spock, of them even being “archetypal characters”. You don’t say so!

Well, all you have to do now, is to transpose these very promising insights of yours into the new movie, and there might be and edging of light…

- They have managed to become characters who are more than the sum of the actors… -

Agreed, Mr. Orci – who wouldn’t! But a sum that has been added up is the basis by means of which we assess any further data and, therefore, must not be disregarded.

70. JB Gestl - October 5, 2007

I don’t read all the Trek books, but those are two that I did read, & I loved them!

What’s wrong with mentioning Archer?

MENTION ARCHER!

71. Snake - October 5, 2007

regarding the novels – i’ve read PD and yes it is indeed a wonderful book – i also really liked Shatners Ashes of Eden..

I recently sent for The Rise and Fall of Khan trilogy – as i recently read that a screenplay for a spin-off prequel to The Wrath Of Khan was commissioned in 1982 by Paramount Pictures. Titled “Prison Planet,” it told the story of what happened to the Khan character between the events of “Space Seed” and those of the second Star Trek feature film. The film never got out of the development stage. (got the info from wiki)

Anyway the 3rd book – “To Reign In Hell: The Exile of Khan Noonien Singh” was pretty much that..so it’ll be an interesting read i’m sure…

Wonder if Mr Orci is a fan of the ST comics as some of those are really great too – plus are quite relevant to this new film (e.g. The Kirk Starfleet Academy Annual from 1991…plus annuals 1 and 2 of the 1st DC run that had the first and last missions…) plus theres that Enterprise First Adventure novel…he must have read that one!

72. StillKirok - October 5, 2007

Please do NOT mention Enterprise at all. It’s not good enough to acknowledge. It can’t possibly fit within Trek canon so it has to take place in some alternate universe. And most important, the audience didn’t watch it.

73. Ty Webb - October 5, 2007

“First of all I am a sci-fi fan and there has never been anything on TV that has made sci-fi as relatable and respectable as The Next Generation. ”

Amen to that bro, amen.

74. trektacular - October 5, 2007

I thin we are in for a very slick Trek movie, are we all ready for it?

75. STFAN - October 5, 2007

Great interview.

I’m hoping for some new info on the movie in the second part….

76. Holo J - October 5, 2007

I hope they do make some reference to Archer or to the ENT series.

Considering ENT has brought lots of young fans to Star Trek. I believe James the lad who Nimoy has invited to the premier of the film was a big ENT fan and I know lots of other kids who have come to trek through that series, my newphew being one fo them. so why not give it a nod in hte film?

77. Iowagirl - October 5, 2007

#74

Slick – meaning slippery or skilful…?

I am definitely ready for the first, but I still doubt the latter…

78. Iowagirl - October 5, 2007

# 57

I totally agree to your opinion regarding TOS. But, as TOS gave us its never dating vision and optimistic view of the future, we should maybe be ready for giving this new film a chance. Consider this, after 40 years they make a new TOS film! They had all those sequels to choose from and they chose TOS. Isn’t that an acknowledgment of TOS, a kind of second coming?!

I also agree with you thinking that TOS alone is the real McCoy, and I admit that I don’t think that new actors can give us something as truly lasting as the original ones have done. And, as some of you might already know, I won’t accept a new film without… – okay, I won’t say it as it goes without saying!

So, balancing the pros and cons out against each other, I sincerely hope that we will get a film which will span an arc and, thus, respect the legend of TOS, because this is the only way this movie can become not only commercially successful but also and foremost a meaningful part of the canon.

79. Cervantes ( Not getting too excited till I see what it LOOKS like... ) - October 5, 2007

Some interesting things in that interview, and I look forward to the second part of which focuses on the actual Movie.

Even if it is a well-written script and an interesting storyline (but not involving time-travel I hope, although the rumours seem against me)…a lot of this Movie’s ‘magic’ is going to be it’s production design, and it’s direction by J.J. Abrams, and as it’s supposedly a ‘TOS-era’ setting, I can only hope there is a lot of reasonably faithful TOS imagery involved, whether there is a ‘different time-line’ or not…

80. TB - October 5, 2007

Spidey 3 had some major storyline problems that I absolutely hated, but like one reviewer said, “bad Spiderman is better than no Spiderman at all.” I have to agree, but I, for one, anticipate the new Trek film will be a good one. Some people can never be happy no matter what so why even try? Like everyone else in the free world, I was aware of the Transformer toys, but was never a fan. The movie, however, was spendid. The script did all it needed to do & the action & effects did the rest. Bravo!! My grandson (11) & I (56) saw it together & loved it. How many films can say they have such broad appeal?

People, if you don’t believe Jensen Ackles would be a great Capt. Kirk, then at least watch one episode of “Supernatural.” I believe you’ll change your opinion.

81. COMPASSIONATE GOD - October 5, 2007

9. Anthony Pascale – October 4, 2007
“I just want to say that I am very grateful that Roberto took out so much of his day (actually his evening) to do the interview and to do all the fan outreach he has done for this movie.”

Ditto!

82. Shatner_Fan_2000 - October 5, 2007

#63 Orci “Transformers was a faithful live action adaptation of the 80s cartoon.”

Orci, I’m pleased that you acknowledge the essential difference between Transformers and Trek. A less-informed writer might attempt to dump both franchises together into some ambiguous sci-fi/action category, even though tonally they could not be more different. While I enjoyed Transformers for what it was, it will always be a property designed for kids/teens, which adults might also enjoy. Trek is the opposite – it has always been aimed at adults (smart adults at that), with a *bit* of built-in kid appeal thrown in for good measure.

I’d be happy indeed if this new Trek was as compelling, smart, and character-driven as what we get in the best episodes of Lost. Do a good job, man. Incidentally, my uncle got me into Trek too, and we’ll be going to see XI together on Christmas day!

83. T Negative - October 5, 2007

Whenever I think of how Mr. Orci will tell the story of a young Kirk I wonder what happened to him that made him such a great starship captain. Was there a profound event prior to command of the Enterprise?? Does he face an insurmountable experience with Spock and McCoy at his side. Does he save millions of people in an extraordinary way?

What makes this guy tick? Other than what little we have to draw from TOS about Kirk’s early years(pre 5 year mission), is there an event we have not been told of or mentioned? I know he beat the Kaobayashi Maru but there has to be more to it than that. Much more.

When you watch episodes like the Man Trap you see a VERY confident guy and a man who will do his job to the best of his ability, but he also relies heavily on his support staff and won’t take any BS from anyone, even Spock and McCoy. What event in their past created this bond?? Is Kirk a natural leader or was he molded into one?? I imagine it is a little of both. There is a huge gap in the Kirk history that has yet to be told!! Fans like me want to know!! Bring it on!!

84. JeFF - October 5, 2007

This just makes me feel like a kid again…. I’m the same age as Robert, and I also grew up with TNG and think it was the best series… It’s easy to relate to him, which is totally exciting. I cannot wait to see what they have come up with…

I just have a feeling that we’re all going to leave that theatre on Christmas morning having received the best gift: The return of a living, breathing Star Trek.

85. Tony Whitehead - October 5, 2007

One of my all-time favorite TOS novels is Star Trek: Enterprise by Dianne Carey…(no relation to tv show ENT). The way the Romulan character T’Cael was written with such class and pathos made the book come alive for me.
I look forward to how the screenplay breathes new life into the characters onscreen.

86. Snake - October 5, 2007

Mr orci – any news on the Shatner front…?

James Kirks dad for example?

87. Hbasm - October 5, 2007

I think, anyone who appriciates TNG enough to call it his favourite TV show of all times, is worthy of writing the next film. Whether I’m going to like the movie personally remains to be seen though. I prefer the TV shows up until now. If the movie looks and feels and tastes like an action oriented movie (with lots of explosions and laser zapping ala Star Wars) count me out, because that counteracts the optimistic future as depicted by Gene Roddenberry. Star Trek has better things to teach us than cowboy diplomacy and better things to shove down our throats than death and destruction. TNG wasn’t an action show. This was deliberate and had nothing to do with budget constraints. I hope the new production team gets that. I am fairly confident now that Roberto Orci gets it, but we shall see how much blood the next movie ends up spilling.

88. JBS - October 5, 2007

# 86 Oh, come on, we need to have some action to make it fun! Explosions – yes! As long as there is a damn good story as well.

89. hitch1969© - October 5, 2007

Yo OrcSter™,

Dude, thanks for taking the time to do the interview with BIG DAWG AP, me main Geezah Butlah® here at da trek movies dot com dot org. Second, man, please don’t feel like you have to defend anything here in the comments. First of all, you’ve earned the gig, you’ve got the gig, things of this nature. I’d love to see what your critics here could put together for a Trek movie. See what I am saying dude?

There’s no way that you and da Kurt Russell bloke is going to make everyone happy at the same times, aiiiight? Yo diggity check yo self. Repsectah.

I don’t know how old a guy you are, but me, I’m 38ish going on like, 15 mentally so I’m told. It’s neither here nor there to your task and your role in the new project. I come from what they call the suburbs of Colorado – you know, the suburbs, where they tear out all the trees and name the streets after them. And your interview got me thinking back. I remember it just like it was a Thursday, 1982. Now back in that day, the best dudes to hang out with were the Johnson brothers, Garrett and Gordon. And Mr. Johnson, he drove an ice cream truck. And on saturday nights, we’d take out all the ice cream, and stock that ice cream truck full of beers for the party they had at their house that night when Mr. and Mrs. Johnson were gone for the weekend. And we’d sit around and listen to our Pink Floyd records, diluting the stems and seeds from the mix. The Johnsons had a dart board, but we weren’t very good at darts, so all the little paint chips in the plaster around the dart board, under the black light, to us… that looked liked stars. And soon we started pretending that we was looking out the window of the SS Enterprise…

My man Viking was there.

Anyway dude, what’s it all about, what’s it all for, and in the end who really cares what dem haters think? I don’t have the answers to dem issues. But what I do know is that the OrcSter™ packs the latest apple techMology in his trousers and walks down the street ever so proudly. What more can we ask of a man? Nothing more, nay, I say, nary. Nary more.

BEST!!

=h=

90. Harry Ballz - October 5, 2007

Hitch, you are as eloquent as EVER!! Bravo!!

91. JBS - October 5, 2007

#88 Hitch – you need to lay off the Ripple dude, it’s killing brain cells.

Roberto, one request: don’t let the Vulcans or Romulans were wigs. They must get Spock hair cuts like Mr. Nimoy always did. The wigs used in the other ST series were always funny looking. Of course, the actor playing Kirk can wear a wig.

92. Harry Ballz - October 5, 2007

No, no….don’t you mean the actor playing Kirk MUST wear a wig? After all, accuracy is important!

93. Demode - October 5, 2007

I’m glad to hear he is such a huge TNG fan. That gives me hope TNG will return in some form. There is plenty of room in the TREK universe for the two most popular shows to survive!

94. Warpler - October 5, 2007

#80 I agree if the man is available then the search for Kirk should stop with Ackles.

95. CmdrR. - October 5, 2007

Shatner as Mugatu. Mr. Orci, it’s box office gold!

96. Gary Lee - October 5, 2007

When will the movie start shotting and how many more actors need to be casted?

97. Snake - October 5, 2007

btw that was a great interview – hope in part 2 he talks more about the movies….(each movie in turn like he did with the series in this one)

98. Cygnus-X1 - October 5, 2007

#82
– Trek is the opposite – it has always been aimed at adults (smart adults at that), with a *bit* of built-in kid appeal thrown in for good measure. –

I’ve been wondering about those last two TNG movies and their schmaltzy “cool” scenes…And, to a lesser degree in some of the other movies…there’s a certain cheese factor that tends to pop up and leave me miffed…

In Insurrection, for example, Worf had some lines…”Definitely feeling aggressive tendencies, sir!!”…and…”Today IS a good day to die!!”

I’m not sure if that cheese was meant to appeal to kids, or if it was indicative of the filmmakers having lost touch with the fan-base.

I mean, when they wrote those schmaltzy lines, were they thinking, “Yeah!! This’ll make the fans go WILD!!” ?

Wrath of Khan didn’t have any of that. It was cheese-free. That was a film for adults. And, while it scared me a little as a 9-year old, I still loved it.

It’s good to learn from Mr. Orci that the makers of the new film are in agreement about the value of TWOK.

99. I AM THX-1138 - October 5, 2007

OK Hitch, you are one odd duck. Not that there is anything wrong with that. But odd, yes. And Mercutio, please try to be less of wet match. If Star Trek is dead for you, then let it die. For the rest of us who have a positive feeling about this movie, this is our hope that the franchise will be reeled back in from the abyss. All signs point to this being a really good movie.

I don’t always throw my $.02 in on what I would like to see in this movie (yeah, right) but I do have some thoughts (shocker!):

I have mentioned once before here that it would be interesting to see what happened to Kirk as a youth on Taursus IV. How did he survive Governor Kodos’ outrageous policy to solve the famine and how did he deal with watching friends or family members put to death? What survival skills did he develop, as he surely must have, and how did these lessons affect his decision to join Starfleet? They had to have given him a unique insight on how to solve problems from a different perspective (Kobayashi Maru; doesn’t believe in the no-win scenario etc.). What was McCoy doing this whole time? Just how does a man who doesn’t seem to like authority, transporters, and generrally flinging oneself across the galaxy end up in Starfleet? Does Spock’s relationship with his father have any bearing on how he deals with any of his commanding officers? How does he deal with the constant feeling of being an outsider i.e. never quite fitting in on Vulcan and being a non-human at the Academy?

And how come when Roberto Orci is interacting with some of us fans on this site I’m always managing to be FRIGGIN’ DOING SOMETHING ELSE?

Signed, Timmy

100. Snake - October 5, 2007

TWOK is not just the best ST film it is flat out one of the best Sci Fi movies..PERIOD!

In fact whenever a Sci Fi or movie magazine or site does a top Sci Fi films ever made it always gets in amongst the top 20 along with the likes of Blade Runner, Star Wars, 2001, Alien, Terminator etc etc…

Its the only trek movie that does that though..the rest – although some are really great too (specifically III, IV, VI and VIII) – arent in the same league as Khan.

From the sounds of things this new movie will be using quite a bit of back story established in TWOK (e.g.Kobashi Maru)…If this movie turns out anything like that one…then its possible that Khan might have some trek company in those top Sci Fi film lists!

101. YES MAN - October 5, 2007

They should write the movie about Terraforming a planet and call it the Genisis program or some sh*t like that

102. Lendorien - October 5, 2007

A great interview. Quite thoughtful.

I have to say that unlike many of the others here, I have some reservations about the tone of the interview. It sounds like they have a lot of trekkies on board. While I have no problem with staying faithful to the vision, I’m hoping that they have some willingness to break the mold a little so far as the visual look of the show. If the movie ends up looking sorta like it was filmed in the 60′s (with better special effects), I’ll be quite disappointed, and it won’t appeal to not trekkies very well. If Trek is to be revived as a viable franchise, there needs to be some real rethinking about the visual look of the show. I also hope that they do hold on to the mindset of the 60′s show. It’s so easy to melt into this 1990′s/2000′s political correctness junk. Trek challenged because it didn’t pull it’s punches.

103. Hbasm - October 5, 2007

#88 I’m dissapointed but not surprised to read this. I understand that violent entertainment is reflecting of this violent society. I only mean to say that Star Trek should go against that, boldly, like it did in the past. TNG in particular. It had its share of explosions alright, but never to entertain. The same can be said about VOY, DS9 and ENT although mostly in their first seasons. After that it was decided to boost the ratings with all sorts of stunts, but the best Star Trek remains free of such things. It communicates its message through dialogue, on a civilized level. This is what sets it apart, like its coming from another world, and this is what makes it big.

104. Kyle Nin - October 5, 2007

#76: “I hope they do make some reference to Archer or to the ENT series.”

That would be nice, but I don’t they will. Besides, there’s already a bunch of connections to TOS on ENT anyway, especially in the Mirror Universe episodes.

105. Snake - October 5, 2007

104 – when Archers resume comes up when the mirror Archer checks it out i think it reads that Archer was present at the launch of the NCC 1701 and then died the next day…

I doubt we’ll see the launch of the NCC 1701 under April or Pike tho as wasnt that about 10 years b4 Kirk taking over? (although i bet Bakula is hoping otherwise!)

Unless the writers are MEGA ‘Enterprise’ fans i doubt they’ll be any Ent references….

Ent was good in season 3 and real good in season 4 – its a shame it was cancelled but then again if it hadnt been we wouldnt be getting this movie…

106. Kyle Nin - October 5, 2007

#105:

That part of Archer’s biography wasn’t shown on-screen, so it’s not considered canon.

If I had a choice between watching the new movie or a fifth season of ENT, I’d take the fifth season. I’m only really interested in the movie because there’s nothing else.

107. David - October 5, 2007

Sounds like they’re taking this seriously! I hope their story survives the cutting room floor!

A couple of comments on this thread (and many before it) seem to have a ‘fingers-crossed’ approach to whether this film will LOOK like TOS.

Does anyone seriously believe a $100million movie will make the 23rd century look like the 1960′s vision of the future? Die-hard fans may weep at the lack of shiny studio floors, wooden doors and blinky lights for sets, but the film surely will (and must) have an updated view of the future. I realise the look of the Enterprise outside may cause issues (if indeed it features in the film), and the suspected ‘alternate’ timeline may resolve some of these problems, but I think TOS fans have to look on this film like when a new actor takes over James Bond.

It looks like bond, it feels like bond, but the costumes, sets and hairstyles have changed considerably over the years (as they should), just like this film hopefully will, as our interpretation of the future changes as well.

It does worry me slightly when with all this huge potential for a great story on the big screen coming our way, that a lot of people (though blessedly few on this thread) seem hung up on a tiny matter of whether the sets will be identical to the originals. How about focusing on the story, the characters and the acting? If you want a ‘new’ episode of the original series, theres plenty being made on the net – this film is for a whole new generation to dream about being part of this grand adventure!

Star Trek is about grand storytelling, its problems in recent years has been a self-obsession (ENT and Nemesis being too focused on the ‘fans’). May this film be a return to true greatness – be bold, be individual, and above all, be Star Trek – whether the sets are new or old is almost imaterial.

108. Dragonflygurl - October 5, 2007

(on Star Trek: Voyager]
Voyager I loved because it was a singular experience of being separated from utopia. It sort of played a counter point by saying ‘oh you love everything about Star Trek, what if we separate you by a zillion light years.’ And obviously I loved the idea of the first female captain.)

Janeway was not the first female Captain. In The Voyage Home there was a female Captain of the star ship Saratoga played by Madge Sinclair who’s sadly not with us anymore. The same actress also went on to play the part of Geordi La Forge mother in TNG.

Enterprise was good. I liked it. But the original series will always be my favorite, my first:)

109. Johnny Ice - October 5, 2007

#102 and 107; you both are spot on and i agree 110% with your views.

110. Gary Lee - October 5, 2007

How about Eric Bogosian as a Vulcan or a Romulan?

111. JCool - October 5, 2007

Im ready for part 2 :)

112. Gary Lee - October 5, 2007

I think Mandy Patinkin from Criminal Minds could be a Vulcan or Romulan. How about Spock’s father?

113. Harry Ballz - October 5, 2007

Don’t ignore my warning about Abram’s script for the Superman movie! It stunk on ice!! Let’s hope he’s not smoking the same stuff when he finalizes the Trek screenplay!! The line between genius and pure ca-ca is slim at best!

114. roberto Orci - October 5, 2007

89

Lol. Thanks.

115. roberto Orci - October 5, 2007

99

Cuz you’re a healthy individual who doesn’t spend all free time on the net?

116. roberto Orci - October 5, 2007

102

Couldn’t agree more. That is why my partner Alex, JJ, and Bryan Burk are so important. They balance Damon’s and my geekdom.

Our production deisgner, the amazing Scott Chambliss, is completely aware of your concerns and the idea is to make this Trek seem more real than any Trek has ever felt.

117. roberto Orci - October 5, 2007

113

I liked his Superman movie.

but Alex and I wrote this one.

118. snake - October 5, 2007

117

Mr Orci did you see Superman Returns ? What did you think of that?

119. Iowagirl - October 5, 2007

- Well number one I think the characterizations of The Original Series became what we call internally ‘Shakespeare Characters.’ -

“Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments. Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove:
Oh, no, it is an ever fixed mark,
That looks on tempests and is never shaken,
It is the star to every wandering bark,
Whose worth’s unknown, although his height be taken,
Love’s not Time’s fool, though rosy lips and cheeks
Within his bending sickle’s compass come;
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks,
But bears it out even to the edge of doom.
If this be error and upon me proved,
I never writ, nor no man ever loved.”

120. NCC-73515 - October 6, 2007

janeway was not the first female captain… that was the captain of the uss saratoga in st4

121. TJ - October 6, 2007

**waves at Robert Orci**

Anyone know when part 2 of this interview will be posted? It’s been a CRAZY work week, my abs hurt from the gym and I need another dose of ‘escape from reality and get a little giddy over the Trek making a comeback movie! HOO-YAH!!!’ :D:D:D:D

122. Iowagirl - October 6, 2007

# 120

What about the Romulan commander in “The Enterprise Incident”. Or don’t Romulans count?

123. Vejur - October 6, 2007

#116 That great and posative news indeed. Thanks Orci.
p.s http://gabekoerner.com/fx/Gallery/nightshade1064.jpg

124. Harry Ballz - October 6, 2007

#117
Mr. Orci, thanks for taking the time to respond to my post.
Much appreciated!

125. roberto Orci - October 6, 2007

120

right — I meant first female Captain as the center of a seires or film.

126. JCool - October 6, 2007

Mr Orci

Thanks. :)

Remember these VERY important quote:

“Do you know the one -’All I ask is a tall ship, and a star to steer her by …” You could feel the wind at your back, about you … the sounds of the sea beneath you. And even if you take away the wind and the water, it’s still the same.’ The ship is yours … you can feel her … and the stars are still there.”
-James T Kirk

127. Cygnus-X1 - October 6, 2007

hey Roberto Orci…

It would be great to know your thoughts on #82 and #98…

Specifically, on the issues of target audience, cross-over and mass appeal with respect to the previous Trek films vis-a-vis Star Trek 2008, and if you can shed any light on that cheese factor that I was trying to define.

With respect to the cheese, do you think that I have a valid point in general, or is it just an issue of personal taste?

128. Craig - October 6, 2007

Just wondering is the Trek franchise just going to be a movie series or do they also plan on doing a new series? Thanks.

129. The Vulcanista - October 6, 2007

Dear Santa,

I’ve been a *very* good girl this year, and all I want for Christmas is a Trek movie with an excellent story, an excellent story, an excellent story, an excellent cast, and an excellent story.

Oh, yeah; can Shat be in the film too?

Peace. Live long and prosper.

Love,

The Vulcanista }:-|

130. The Vulcanista - October 6, 2007

*Totally* agree with first line of #1 post!

Peace. Live long and prosper.

The Vulcanista }:-|

131. Notbob - October 7, 2007

I really enjoy the original crew. They are all very good. However, and I am sure I am alone on this–but I have to be 100% honest– I love Star Wars.

It’s not a battle for me. I like Star Trek but really like Star Trek.
Sure, some will bring up the shortcomings of some of the prequels, but for all the shortcomings of the prequel Star Wars films, I can think of a number of Star Trek TNG, DS9, vOY. Enterprise, or a handful of the films that did not move me.

I hope that your film brings back what was most important to me. The relationship of three good friends: Kirk, Spock and McCoy. it’s important that they do not have a dry relationship. Spock was the brains, Bones was the heart and Kirk was what brought the two together, It was really a case of the Id, the Ego and the Superego on screen.

I wish you the bast and I know I have said some skeptical things. Skeptics are needed. Now prove the skeptical side of me wrong. I hope you do. I wish you the best of luck.

132. Admiral_Bumblebee - October 7, 2007

Hello, Mr. Orci.
Glad that you are stopping by again.

I am really curious to know if you managed to include William Shatner into the script, yet. But I doubt that you can tell us yet ;)
Nonetheless I have a proposal for you if you are still looking for a way to include him. I just assume that the plot rumour is somehow true and I would approach it a bit the way the story of “Yesterday Enterprise” from TNG approached how Tasha Yar was included in the story.

Let’s assume the evil guys somehow managed to end up in the past, maybe they (accidentally) created a rift in time which is still open. They are beginning to change things in the past.
The first time we see old Spock, he is standing at a statue of Captain Kirk. A plague on it says “In memory of James Tiberius Kirk, Date of birth xxx Date of death xxx.”
There is an old man standing next to him. When next Spock looks at him, there is boy standing there. Spock wonders, but doesn’t think about it anymore.
Spock says: “I could’nt save you, my friend. If I would have been there, I wouldn’t have let you die!”
“Talking to yourself again, old friend?” He hears someone saying from behind him. Spock turns and sees Captain Kirk!
“Jim! … But you are dead!”
“I don’t hope so!” Kirk says jokingly.
Spock turns to look at the statue again. It now looks different and the plague reads “In acknowlegement of the deeds of James Tiberius Kirk. Date of birth xxx.”
“Are you alright Spock? You look like you have seen a ghost!” Kirk says. Spock looks around, suddenly more things around him begin to change. Buildings disappear, others appear.
“Something is not right here…” Spock says.
“What do you mean?” asks Kirk.
“You have died 13 years ago…”

Spock and Kirk travel to Starfleet HQ and Spock talks about the changes. It is discovered that a rift in time has apppeared and that apparently someone has slipped through. Spock says that they have to right the things that went wrong and close the rift. During the talks, more things could change, the uniforms, one of the council members suddenly is a woman etc. Together with Kirk he travels to the rift (which is maybe located on a planet or asteroid).
When they investigate it, Klingons attack the ship and the landing party.
“Klingons?” Spock asks.
Kirk: “They broke the peace treaty 10 years ago… another thing that is not right, I assume…”
Spock says that he has to go through the rift alone as Kirk is dead in the right timeline and him coming back could change mor things. Kirk protests. Suddenly, a Klingon grenade is thrown and Kirk jumps to save his old friend and both of them fall through the rift.

Spock and Kirk discover the plan of the enemy to destroy earth/kill young Kirk. They try to stop him. Kirk begins to realize that he is helping in restoring a future in which he is dead. This could lead to an interesting conflict between Kirk and Spock, putting their friendship at stakes. But then Kirk understands.
Spock also discovers that he is the only one that cold see the changes in the future as he got hold of a piece of the crystal (?) when he first met with Captain Kirk that was used to create the rift in time. The enemy had the crystal on him and young Spock took it when the enemy was defeated. Spock had it always with him.
In the end we see someone putting a letter into young Kirks jacket. “Do not open until the maiden voyage of the Enterprise-B!” it says o the cover.

Old Spock knows that he can either go back to his time or travel trough time forever, righting things that went wrong.
He asks old Kirk: “What do we do now? We can go back to our time or…”
Kirk: “Returning to future in which I am dead or traveling through time with you forever… a tough decision.” He smiles. “That will be fun!” And they both disappear.
Next, we see the Enterprise floating by. On the bridge, Checkov asks: “What course Captain?” Young Kirk is cluthing the book “Peter Pan”, looking on it, he says: “Second star to the right. ‘Till Morning!”
The Enterprise flies by and goes to warpspeed.

133. Notbob - October 7, 2007

Oops. I said “It’s not a battle for me. I like Star Trek but really like Star Trek.”

I meant, It’s not a battle for me. I love Star Wars, but I really really like Star Trek.

I know some here disagree with me, but that’s the great thing of opinions and the freedom of speech. But because I love Star wars and really like Star Trek does not mean that I am against them. It means I am for them. I just cut my eye teetch on making heros out of fictional characters like Han Solo more than Captain Kirk. I am just being honest.

134. Admiral_Bumblebee - October 7, 2007

I really wish ther would be an edit option ;)

Another thing. If the plot rumours are true and the enemies are Romulan, I think it would be better for the enemies to be humans. Humans most fearsome enemy the human himself and not an alien…

135. Jerry Seward - October 7, 2007

EION BAILEY FOR KIRK!!!

136. Kev-1 - October 7, 2007

Just want to say that while I’m hoping the look of the show is updated, they shouldn’t change stuff for the sake of change itself. The TOS designs were pretty darned good to begin with. And just how different to people expect corridors, the circular bridge and swivel chairs to be? Jeffries designs are pretty sleek and simple with much room for modernization through better materials and electronics. I’d expect them to tweak the designs more than In a Mirror Darkly, though. As for the colour palate, between the “blue steel” of TMP and “action red” of TWOK, bright coloring seems to have won over many. I kind of liked TMP myself. As for “freshness” I’m much more concerned with what the story and plot are than superficial changes to consoles, phasers and tunics.

137. raulpetersen - October 7, 2007

dear mr orci,
as long as the communicators and phasers look like the old ones ill be very happy!!!
oh and lots of red shirt death too please!!!!

138. Greg2600 - October 8, 2007

Great interview Anthony. Orci definitely seems to fall in line with most of my preferences for Star Trek.

139. Chris TROC - October 8, 2007

Orci’s favorite Trek book is my favorite Trek book. This bodes well.

140. Christian Brown - October 9, 2007

LOved what you guys did with my Transformers this past summer…….and I am eagerly awaiting Transformers 2!!! Now about Star Trek I love everything you have said in these 2 interviews and I can see how you treat your source material and turn it into movie gold!!! Man when this movie comes out me and my son wil be there opening day with our eyes wide open and Star Trek t-shirts on our bodies!!!!

141. Gus Fallon - October 9, 2007

Great interview. It laid to rest my (very few) doubts about the film.

142. Stranger From a Strange Land - October 10, 2007

I think Mr. Orci would reach out to the Enterprise fanbase very effectively if he referenced Trip being alive somehow and gave a creative explanation such as a Starfleet cover-up dealing with the Romulan War. It could be a two sentence line and he’d probably get many Enterprise fans flocking to the movie. Perhaps that is an exaggeration, but I know that would please the Enterprise fans immensely. Good movie= pleased fans. Good movie that fixes the worst blunder in Trek history=more pleased fans. More pleased fans hopefully=more tickets sold and more DVD sales.

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