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Star Trek Post Production Complete + Oscar-winner Ben Burtt Provided Sound Design January 5, 2009

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: ST09 Creative,Star Trek (2009 film) , trackback

JJ Abrams’ Star Trek film is officially complete. According to sources, post production on the summer 2009 film was actually completed Christmas week, shortly after JJ Abrams posted his Holiday greeting on Facebook. The final step of the post production was sound editing, and to help out they brought in Academy Award winner Ben Burtt.


Star Trek’s Post – March to December 2008
The post production for this Star Trek movie took just under nine months, which makes it the second longest in the franchise behind Star Trek The Motion Picture in 1979. Even though Paramount moved the released during production, JJ Abrams and his team decided not to make any significant changes to their delivery schedule (they have other projects to move on to and didn’t want to spend any more money than was needed). Once the first cut of the edit was completed over the summer, the major work to be done was with the visual effects by ILM and the recording of the score by Michael Giacchino. The last task in the post-production was the sound editing, including sound designing and recording. According to a trusted source, all of the recording of Majel Barrett Roddenberry’s voice work as the Enterprise computer was completed well before she passed away in late December, with the source noting "she is all over the movie."

Burtt gets heard in Trek
According to a studio insiders, one of the last people to join the Star Trek movie team was Academy Award winning sound designer Ben Burtt, best known for his work on the  Star Wars franchise. Burtt worked on all six Star Wars films and created most of the iconic sounds, including Chewbacca’s roar, light sabers and the droids. Burtt also worked as a sound designer on all of the Indiana Jones films, E.T., and last year’s Pixar hit Wall-E. Burtt is working alongside Mark Stoeckinger who was the sound editor for JJ Abrams Mission: Impossible: III. According to the source, they needed all the help they could get for the sheer number of new sounds that had to be created for this new Star Trek. Even though the film re-uses some iconic TOS sounds (like the Red Alert klaxon), all the sounds still need to be recreated, and then there are many more new sounds as well. Apparently Burtt is a huge Trek fan and was thrilled to get a chance to be involved.


Wall-E Behind-the-scenes feature on Burtt

Next steps – it’s all marketing
The new Star Trek movie is now four months away. All the activity between now and then will be in the hands of the marketers. Expect to see more images released and clips as well as the full theatrical poster and possibly another theatrical trailer.  There will also be a significant amount of merchandising closer to the film as well as additional promotional tie-ins, like the one with Intel. The big push will begin in the Spring with advertising, lots of interviews, a likely Paramount junket and all the stuff that goes along with a summer tent pole.

Another Star Trek milestone
What a long strange road its been. News of this Star Trek movie first arrived in the Spring of 2006, after months of behind the scenes discussions. In the end the film took a bit over three years from the first phone between Paramount and the new team, all the way to finalizing the film. Here are the major milestones along the way

late ’05  First discussions initiate between Paramount and Abrams/Orci/Kurtzman about a new Star Trek movie
4/20/06   Variety first reports JJ Abrams in talks to produce Star Trek film
7/15/06 Paramount announce multi-pic production deal with JJ Abrams / Bad Robot (to include new Star Trek movie)
7/22/06   Comic Con: Paramount release first teaser poster (showing blue & gold uniforms, hinting TOS era), indicated ‘2008’ release
1/07 Script completed / Paramount gives green light, begin discussions on director
2/24/07   Paramount announce green light, Abrams as director, Christmas ’08 release date
4/07 Abrams first confirms Kirk-era storyline for Star Trek
7/27/07 Comic Con: Zachary Quinto and Leonard Nimoy announced as ‘two Spocks’, release new teaser poster showing "Star Trek" as title
8/07-10/07 Casting rest of main ‘crew’ and cast
11/11/07  Principal photography begins
1/18/08  First teaser trailer released (w/ Cloverfield) + official movie site & ‘viral’ ncc-1701.com site launched
2/13/08 Release date changed to May 8th, 2009
3/27/08 Principal photography wraps, post-production begins
7/18/08 Comic Con poster with cast photos revealed + official site updated
8/1/08 First cut completed, shown to Paramount execs
10/14/08 First official images released (online & in Entertainment Weekly)
11/14/08 Theatrical trailer released with Quantum of Solace  (official site updated following Monday)
12/23/08 Post-production completed

 

Comments

1. SChaos1701 - January 5, 2009

Is it May yet?

Oh and…FIRST!!!!

2. Stephan Seifert - January 5, 2009

@boborci:

Great News! Now you can start working on Star Trek 12. ;-)

3. Miles R. Seppelt - January 5, 2009

First!!!

Can’t wait!

4. vanedge - January 5, 2009

anyone else comin down with a case of chicken spocks and calling out sick on may 8th? LOL

5. John Pemble - January 5, 2009

Ben Burtt’s work is very inspirational.

6. Joel - January 5, 2009

Great to see Ben Burtt working on Star Trek. His sound design will be just what the movie needs. Seems like they really nailed this one!

7. Dom - January 5, 2009

I think the sound mix on anything is beyond vital. Bad sound can kill even the best visual film! Just check out the way TMP is improved by the Director’s Editon’s revamped sound mix!

Good news to hear that the new Trek film has gone to town on the sound mix as much as the visuals.

8. THX-1138 - January 5, 2009

Burtt is the sh*t. He really is.

That’s a great bit of news having him be the sound designer/artist for this flick. The impact he has had on the sounds we have heard (and some of us grew up on) really is amazing.

Chewbacca
Lightsabers
R2D2
Darth Vader breathing

And that’s but a fraction of just one movie. Who knows which sounds from Trek will become the new iconic sound?

9. That One Guy - January 5, 2009

… and the sky’s the limit …

10. Dennis Bailey - January 5, 2009

Note that according to Anthony’s chronology the studio was talking to Abrams and his people about taking over “Star Trek.”

This was during about the same period that Erik Jendresen was telling folks that, regarding the Berman/Kerner film based on his script “I’m excited about this project and I think the chances of it getting made are good.”

Bottom line is that the higher-ups never really had much interest in that project.

11. MikeJones - January 5, 2009

So did anyone notice in ‘Eagle Eye’ the enterprise Klaxxon in one of the scenes? I guess not..

12. That One Guy - January 5, 2009

11,
No, but I downloaded it from iTunes and am now using it as my alarm clock. I also just ordered one of the movie posters.

I am pumped.

13. Leonel - January 5, 2009

Talk about an emotional roller coaster for the Trek world. May 8 can’t come fast enough!!

14. Anthony Pascale - January 5, 2009

Bailey,

as my understanding, the Jenresen thing was going on in 04 and early 05, but was dead by the end of the year. Paramount went through a regime change in 2005 with Brad Grey stepping in and as happens during things like that, projects get killed. I have spoken to Jendresen and he said as much, I do not believe he was still talking up the movie in late 2005 (but again that was pre trekmovie.com).

15. jamesTpicard - January 5, 2009

So now that it’s finished, anyone can tell us the running time of this puppy ?

16. Magic_Al - January 5, 2009

Ben Burtt has been heard in Star Trek before, when whoever “designed” Star Trek V put a Star Wars blaster sound where the Klingon ship kills “God”.

17. screaming satellite - January 5, 2009

Wow ben burtt really?

they really have pulled out all the stops on this one…

Its funny – years ago when Trek was at its Berman Treknobabble height (or more low point as I considered it) i used to fantasise (but not in a dirty way) about a mega budget Star Trek film with big stars and the absolute cream of hollywood behind it (with Cameron or Spielberg at the helm as id never heard of Abrams then)…but i never really believed it would ever happen….even though the Trek concept was there (mankind in the future travelling the galaxy on huge starships..transporters..phasers..etc)…it was all too embroiled in spin offs of spin offs and Technobabble etc……and now its really happened….(even Spielberg has been involved a little)…..crazy stuff

Actually in sometime in 2005 before this film was announced and when berman was prepping his rather dull sounding prequels about the formation of the Federation or whatever he was doing (set before or around the time of ‘Enterprise’?) I could hold it no more and i posted a thread on the Star Trek: The Beginning imdb forum where i said if they are intent on doing a prequel film they should do a film (or series of films) charting Pike on the NCC 1701..maybe even showing him take over command from Capt April in the 1st one (therefore set pre Cage) or had Pike as the very 1st captain of the just built NCC 1701. That way wed see the original Ent on the big screen again along with the early incarnations of the familiar stuff the fans love – phasers, communicators, uniforms etc (yeah im talking The Cage/WNMHGB uniforms, phasers etc…they wernt that different to TOS)…plus it wouldve allowed for stuff and ships looking different as it wouldve been set prior to TOS and even The Cage..

They couldve got a big star for Pike like Cruise or Crowe or whoever (as pike was about 40 in Cage so around that age or even younger) and had the rest of the cast – No 1, Boyce, the gee wizz navigator etc with lesser known actors (like they have in this new film)…as for Spock I suggested a young Nimoy lookalike (so I guess if theyd gone the full Pike route they couldve still got Quinto)…if theyd had Capt April – wouldve been just a cameo of Pike taking over from him and couldve been another huge star (Harrison Ford?)

I said the final scene of the maybe the 3rd film (if they did a pike trilogy) could have been Pike ‘handing over the keys’ to the new captain whilst stationed in spacedock…doors swish open…cue a 1966 ‘Where No Man Has Gone Before’ Shatner stepping onto the bridge via Forrest Gump/Trials and Tribulations CGI…takes the chair…then pike watches the Ent leave the startrek III mushroom spacedock as Kirk takes her out and records his ‘space the final frontier’ speech with Spock at his side…Alexander Courage theme kicks in…end credits…’Star Trek Begins’ as it were – then everyone could go home and put on the 2nd pilot..(like the way the end of Revenge of the Sith made everyone want to watch A New Hope straight after)

Anyway whats turned out looks like it’ll even better than how i thought that sounded

18. screaming satellite - January 5, 2009

16 – i wanna know who was responsible for the screaming satellite after the Klingon BOP attacks it

19. Justin Olson - January 5, 2009

As long as Burtt doesn’t use the Mac startup sound when the Enterprise computer powers up for the first time… and the sound effects in the final mix don’t overwhelm Giacchino’s score, I’m okay with this choice.

20. That One Guy - January 5, 2009

15,
J.J. has said that it’s right around 2 hours.

21. Alex Rosenzweig - January 5, 2009

#10, 14 – The only difference of recollection I have with Anthony is that “The Beginning” was being discussed in mid-to-late ’05, just after “Enterprise” was canceled. I don’t recall hearing anything about a movie deal before the show ended.

22. Driver - January 5, 2009

#18 That would be George Takei.

23. jeffery wright - January 5, 2009

wall-e ruled, pixar is the genius storytelling entity of our time.

i have a few reservations about the new picture, but man, i cannot wait to see it.

i’ll be the guy first in line.

24. Alex Rosenzweig - January 5, 2009

#17 – Actually, screaming satellite, I like your idea much better than what the actual movie seems to be doing. :)

25. Daniel Broadway - January 5, 2009

This site rocks. Thanks Anthony.

26. screaming satellite - January 5, 2009

24 – thank you very much Alex…however i much prefer whats happening myself. Its really Kirk, Spock and the rest who ARE Star Trek..and in my ‘version’ they would just be minor characters (well Kirk anyway who would just have a fan pleasing cameo at the end)…the focus would be on Pike and maybe Dr Boyce (im thinking similar a relationship to how the Capt and Dr played out in Master & Commander..which itself had alot of comparisons to trek – specifically TWOK).

Plus the only familiar ‘character’ that would appeal to the mainstream in something like that would be spock (who would be in the background abit) and the original Enterprise herself…Althought Pike is as well known to us Trekkies as Santa Claus, mainstream America would have little idea who he was..and would be wondering where the heck Capt Kirk is…

Having the film focus on kirk, spock and co is a MUCH safer bet for mainstream success than a full on Capt Pike adventure..even if it was a big A list star cast

27. spock - January 5, 2009

#26Master and Commander is Star Trek 2. The Island is the Genesis planet, the fog bank the Mutara Nebula. The ship was even ambushed like the Enterprise.

28. Mirror Jordan - January 5, 2009

I really believe that this will be the most successful Trek movie. It literally has everything going for it.

29. Pat D. - January 5, 2009

Brad Grey took over at Paramount around March 2005.

Jendresen was quoted as saying that Berman was attached to the film “in name only” and had no involvement in his script draft.

Frankly, I think most of the play on the Jendreson draft came out after it was dead, and that certainly the regime change to Brad Gray was responsible for its abandonment.

Plus, with ENTERPRISE having failed as a prequel era, it would be a no-brainer to dump another attempt at a 100 year prequel.

Finally, Abrams, Orci and Kurtzman are giving Star Trek fans what they’ve wanted since the summer of 1969 . . . Star Trek with Kirk and Spock and the basic trappings of TOS.

Gene didn’t really give us that in 1979 or 1987 and neither did Rick Berman in the 3 subsequent series claiming to be Star Trek. Its been a long wait!

30. Pat D. - January 5, 2009

Just to clarify, I’m inclined to agree that the higher ups never had much interest in the Jenderson project.

31. Steven - January 5, 2009

Thirtieth!

Now, the film goes into that special vault that Orci or Kurtzman were talking about for the next four months. Godspeed May 8!

God bless!

32. Nathan - January 5, 2009

Ben Burtt is totally awesome…and I say this as a total Star Wars fanboy. Practically all the sounds from the original Star Wars films are so iconic, it’s crazy: just playing one of those sounds, even totally out of context, is enough to immediately take you into the Star Wars universe.

Example: One of the most memorable moments in Revenge of the Sith, for me at least, was at the very end, where the camera cuts across a newly-Imperialized Venator-class Star Destroyer, and several TIE Fighter looking things(V-Wing fighters, to be exact) fly across the screen.

As they do so, the old TIE fighter engine sound plays–and for me, at least, sitting there in the theater, that sound effect, combined with the familiar silhouettes and the classic John Williams Imperial March playing in the background, made for a very, very powerful moment. And clearly a testament to just how iconic Ben Burtt’s sound design was…

33. Antni - January 5, 2009

Course heading sir?

May 8th…..Maximum Warp!

34. Captain Dunsel - January 5, 2009

So “Star Trek” is in the can, is it? Hmmm, I wonder… could we somehow convince Nate Ford and his team to steal us an advance print…?

35. Xai - January 5, 2009

19. Justin Olson – January 5, 2009
“As long as Burtt doesn’t use the Mac startup sound when the Enterprise computer powers up for the first time.”

God forbid it would be the Windows chime. A simple MBR “Working” would be more than fine.

Pardon me while I reboot just for the pure joy.
http://www.whitwell.ndo.co.uk/musicthing/sounds/macstartup.mp3

36. Tony Whitehead - January 5, 2009

This just keeps a’gittin’ gooder and gooder!

37. Kirk's Girdle - January 5, 2009

If Burtt put a friggin’ Wilhelm scream in this movie, I’ll find him.

38. Kirk's Girdle - January 5, 2009

I was going to mention the klaxon sound in Eagle Eye. Right after they rob the armored car, sprinkler systems are set off in a bank forcing everyone out into the street. The sound was low in the mix and timed with the music. Could be why some people missed it.

39. Andy - January 5, 2009

Man it’s coming faster than I thought. And to think I’ve got the final BSG episodes, the BSG TV movie and Fringe to keep me company from here to May. =)

40. Elrond L - January 5, 2009

Oh My God . . . Ben Burtt? This is incredible!! What a coup for the Trek crew.

#32 Nathan:
Great example! I had the same reaction to that moment in “Sith.” That, and when Vader takes his first mechanical breath.

41. MORN SPEAKS - January 5, 2009

If the movie had come out Christmas, and done well, work would’ve started on the sequel. So, Bob Orci are you guys doing ANY type of preliminary work on the next movie anyway???

42. Blake Powers - January 5, 2009

Jeez i’ve only been on this site since 4-20-2006.. I have been a dedicated follower.. Anthony you must be tired… That timeline makes me realize how big a fan I am.

43. James Heaney - Wowbagger - January 5, 2009

Is it May yet?

44. CarlG - January 5, 2009

Say what you will about canon (and I just *know* you will), but this movie is going to sound awesome. Ben Burtt rocks my eardrums.

@37: Oh, it’ll be there all right. Maybe it’ll be in Romulan.

By the way, I think this is one of the happiest threads I’ve read on this site :D

45. Jeff - January 5, 2009

Any indication when the score album might be released? In some cases the score is released a few weeks before the film. I’m definitely looking forward to hearing Giacchino’s work.

46. Raphael Salgado - January 5, 2009

First!!!! LOL

Time for a lock-up in a vault over the next 5 months. Now, all we need is some major environmental or terroristic catastrophe and they’ll have to go and digitally draw-in the nuclear explosion craters in the Iowa background shots.

How much do you want to bet there’ll be garbage torrent leaks of this movie with words like “DVDSCR” and “TS-DivX” in the filename over the next couple of months… What a waste of nerd bandwidth and time that’ll be. :)

47. The Gorn Identity - January 5, 2009

4. vanedge asked:
“anyone else comin down with a case of chicken spocks and calling out sick on may 8th? LOL”

Ha! I’m taking a week-long vacation from May 8th – May 17th! ^_^

48. The Gorn Identity - January 5, 2009

“The new Star Trek movie is now four months away.”

I felt a wave of giddy chills when I read this sentence! :)

49. jamesmctrek - January 5, 2009

geeus a gobo:)

50. Xai - January 5, 2009

46. Raphael Salgado – January 5, 2009
“Now, all we need is some major environmental or terroristic catastrophe and they’ll have to go and digitally draw-in the nuclear explosion craters in the Iowa background shots.”

How about not!
Where do you live and we’ll digitally add signs of terrorism to your home landscape. huh? I know you are just making a joke, but let’s not go there..k?

51. Doc Thrace - January 5, 2009

HOLY CRAP! I cannot wait. I will be dropping everything to see this, and continue to do so until every scene is permanently etched in my mind!

52. McCoy - January 5, 2009

17…

I actually like your original idea better too. Makes so much more sense. For a while now, the creators of the new Trek have been saying there is a core ‘Trek’ to aim for that will come through no matter who plays the iconic characters. I imagine that would apply to a Pike era serial as well. And what a great nod to the original idea that would have been. They would have also avoided stepping on ant TOS toes.

I would also feel better about Qunito’s voice if he was playing a younger Spock (younger than the Spock he is playing now).

53. EFFeX - January 5, 2009

This is it guys, wake me up in May!

54. Raphael Salgado - January 5, 2009

I was being sarcastic. Of course, I don’t wish anything bad. I was just reflecting on the dreadfully long wait to the release. It’s 4 and a half months of more hype, nothing more, nothing less.

I live in NJ. The overcrowdedness is more than enough catastrophe here.

55. S. John Ross - January 5, 2009

#29: Some of us feel that we got it in ’73 and ’74!

But either way, a long while ago :)

56. G-Boss - January 5, 2009

This movie should have been in theaters on 12/25, like they said it would.
Moving the date to May ruined my holidays.

57. Sean - January 5, 2009

Why is everyone gawking at Ben Burtt’s involvement? Yes, he might have created some iconic sound effects for the Star Wars and Indiana Jones films, but his mixing abilities are awful; don’t be so impressed that he’s involved. Anyone wanting Michael Giacchino’s (apparently great) score to be front and center (in the way that Trek scores of the past have been placed) than don’t count on Burtt doing that if he’s given control over mixing: If anything, it’s clear that Burtt views the scores attached to the films he’s been involved with as a hurdle for his sound effects and tends to dial down their presence: Just check out his dreadful mixes on the SW prequels, the DVD reissues of the original trilogy, and the new Indiana Jones film–they paint a pretty clear picture on his approach. He established a name for himself with SW, but his skills at the mix board are not impressive or desired in the least… Star Trek will need the kind of mix The Dark Knight received: The music is front and center and GETS NOTICED (as all great scores do; scores that are dialed down and not upfront don’t get noticed and shouldn’t be seamless with the mix), while ALL the sound effects and dialog come through crystal clear; that was a impressive achievement with their sound team and this NEEDS to be cone with Trek. Hopefully, J.J. will make certain that Giacchino’s score doesn’t fall to the side in favour overly complex and needless sound design that Burtt delivers on a constant basis.

58. Shatterhand - January 5, 2009

#37

LMFAO!!! I knew there had to be at least one other person who’d be listening for a Wilhelm scream! Bet ya $10 it gets snuck in there somewhere. Come on, it’s Ben Burtt!

#57

Enter the buzzkill. ;-) I’m sure Giacchino’s score will still be prevalent in the movie. And, as far as the Dark Knight’s music was concerned, I thought it was just a little too bombastic at times. A great score nevertheless, but sometimes it was a little too much.

59. USS TRINOMA - NCC 0278 - January 5, 2009

Four months left…and Star Trek will be reborn!!! This movie is what Gene Rodenberry wanted all along!!! In the late sixties, his vision stretched as far as it can go. Now, in 2009, with the most advanced current hollywood special effects (and the most advanced scientific theory up to date – Quantum Machanics), along with A-List writers, director, producers, upcoming stars, and Lenard Nimoy as the official seal of approval, Star Trek IS BACK WITH A BANG !!!

60. Irishtrekkie - January 5, 2009

#14 pretrekmovie….?

there was a pre trekmovie.com time , ……..oh yea i remember that. ……jesus i was almost depressed, as a trekkie who grew up in the 90s , i always had new trek in tng , ds9, voy ,ent , and new movies.

After enterprised was canncelled , ! i paniced and all that talk of taking a break from star trek……….i feared for the worst , luckly then all the rumours about the new movie started , and i found this great site , which kept me up todate on every singal bit of information (cause in the early days we really had nothing) . oh the good times , trying to guess the cast , hearing about the cast, spy shots from starfleet academy, the teaser trailier , arguing over the new enterprise . it was great to see people are still into star trek so much, now only 4 months to go.

“long strange road ” is right

>>:)

61. Will H. - January 5, 2009

May doesnt seem so far away now. Then this movie will be judged and scrutinized harder than any movie has been before…at least by nerds and such.

62. Alex Rosenzweig - January 5, 2009

#26 – “24 – thank you very much Alex…however i much prefer whats happening myself. Its really Kirk, Spock and the rest who ARE Star Trek..and in my ‘version’ they would just be minor characters (well Kirk anyway who would just have a fan pleasing cameo at the end)…the focus would be on Pike and maybe Dr Boyce (im thinking similar a relationship to how the Capt and Dr played out in Master & Commander..which itself had alot of comparisons to trek – specifically TWOK).”

See, that’s where I think I step out of the mainstream. For me, Star Trek is its world, not any one set of characters. Don’t get me wrong, I love Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and the rest on the good ol’ 1701, but I’ve now added about a hundred other characters I care about, too, many of whom haven’t even ever been seen on screen. ;)

And your idea has the advantage of being set in an unaltered Trekverse, which already attracts me more than the actual film. :)

That said…

“Plus the only familiar ‘character’ that would appeal to the mainstream in something like that would be spock (who would be in the background abit) and the original Enterprise herself…Althought Pike is as well known to us Trekkies as Santa Claus, mainstream America would have little idea who he was..and would be wondering where the heck Capt Kirk is…

Having the film focus on kirk, spock and co is a MUCH safer bet for mainstream success than a full on Capt Pike adventure..even if it was a big A list star cast”

With that I have no disagreement. It’s absolutely a much wiser move, marketing-wise, to bring us back to Kirk and crew, though I also think it’d be cool, in one of the films that may follow, to introduce some folks who could eventually spin off, as well. But that’s a discussion for a later time. ;)

63. OneBuckFilms - January 5, 2009

57 – The mixing process is a very collaborative process, from what I can see.

Ben Burtt is doung Sound Design; That’s sound effetcs, etc.

The Sound MIX is going to be done by a number of mixers and editors, including Mark Stoeckinger.

One man doesn’t do it all. Not by a long shot.

64. Andy Patterson - January 5, 2009

There’s something I’ve brought up several times but have never gotten an answer to. . . .

I remember hearing the new edition of Star Wars (ep IV) and being so taken out of the moment by hearing the interior sound of a TOS shuttlecraft as the sound effect in Ben’s little hut. It was such a contrast to the quiet serene scene I had remembered as a kid – when Obi Wan tells Luke about the force, his father and all that.

It was one of the many tampering moments they did to those movies that I hated. I always assumed it was young, inconsequential gophers in the sound department doing something they thought was a contribution – almost like Ben Burtt through them a bone. “Sure,…you wanna add that sound? Okay.” I never dreamed that was his decision. Maybe it was now that I know he’s such a huge fan.

I just never liked that one little touch however. I’ve never met one person who’s noticed that let alone been bothered by it like me.

Having said all that… I look forward to his involvement with the new movie. I really admire Burtt’s work and his creative and analytical approach. That’s exciting and good news. There’s someone who would give us some little gems of ear candy to chew on. Especially the fans of the original show.

65. gerardx - January 6, 2009

#57 – Wow a Ben Burtt basher – that’s a first. Maybe he otta turn in his four academy awards – huh?

C’mon – why the sour grapes? Ben Burtt is a sound designer (effects mostly) not just a mixer. Like has been mentioned before, mixing is an art form unto itself and is closely supervised by the editor and director.

I’m sure he and his team will produce a decent mix – no worries there.

66. Enterprise - January 6, 2009

Lol, at that Dark Knight comment. Did anyone even notice the score in the movie? I sure didn’t. The soundtrack was terrible.

67. gerardx - January 6, 2009

#64 – All those tweaks and changes are made by Lucas period. Especially sound – Lucas is a absolutely anal about sound design and mixing. There is not one thing that was added or removed from those original tracks with out his express consent, or more likely, his initiation.

And, with the last DVD releases of the original trilogy, much of the music was dialed down, most notably, the trumpet fanfare as the Rebel X-Wing fighters were peeling away as they decended to attack the Death Star. It was / is horrible. And what an insult to John Williams, whose operatic soundtrack was very much the reason Star Wars was so successful.

68. Enterprise - January 6, 2009

Good Lord, I wish people would give Lucas a break sometimes. He did create SW after all. Give the slams a rest people. No one forced you to buy the DVDs.

69. James Tiberius "my cabin in the Nexus hasn't depreciated" Kirk - January 6, 2009

Thanks # 63!

#57, As an audio post production professional, I can tell you that you’re way-off with regard to how sound is done in the movies!

If you don’t like the sound mix in a film, then the sound designer is not the guy to blame. The sound designer is in charge of creating the audio aesthetic of the film. blaming the sound designer for a crappy mix is just as misguided as blaming the orchestra conductor for a crappy mix as both parties are responsible for creating elements that are brought together by the mixing team. And even after that, the Director and Producers have the final say as to how the film looks and sounds.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

63. OneBuckFilms – January 5, 2009

57 – The mixing process is a very collaborative process, from what I can see.

Ben Burtt is doung Sound Design; That’s sound effetcs, etc.

The Sound MIX is going to be done by a number of mixers and editors, including Mark Stoeckinger.

One man doesn’t do it all. Not by a long shot.

70. Cobalt 1365 - January 6, 2009

57- I tip my hat to you, sir!

Never have I heard a viewpoint placed more opposite to the general consensus, professional and fanboy. Bravo on your groundbreakingly negative opinion!

As for Ben Burtt’s Star Wars mix: overpowering? Who wouldn’t recognize John William’s legendary score in almost any scene of Star Wars? And his work in Wall-e was absolutely amazing! The sound effects were practically the entire language of the movie and it was spot-on!
I didn’t think it was possible, but I am now more excited and optimistic about this movie than ever before!

71. Einthoven - January 6, 2009

Could someone at Paramount simply steal a copy, and put in on the net to download?

I bet someone will…. T4 will beat the crap out of the movie anyway… :P

72. The Invader (In Color) - January 6, 2009

That’s great news about Burtt. I’ve been a fan for years and years…

73. screaming satellite - January 6, 2009

52/62 – “They would have also avoided stepping on ant TOS toes.”…..”And your idea has the advantage of being set in an unaltered Trekverse, which already attracts me more than the actual film. :)”

Yes – I thought the whole pike thing would be the way to go mainly due to avoid over lapping into TOS territory and all the problems I thought that would bring about (canon, having to adhere to the 60s sets/costumes/props In A Mirror Darkly style) not to mention recasting which seemed impossible…it would still invoke the classic trek era as you would at least have some immediate foreshadowing to TOS (original Ent, various characters, familiar looking phasers, communicators, uniforms etc) but not too much as to contradict and overwrite what has gone before in TOS (so it would work pretty much like Revenge of the Sith did)….

I just didn’t think a full on prequel with TOS crew was possible…

Glad I was wrong though.

74. Star Trackie - January 6, 2009

I don’t mind the fact that the guy who is doing the sound, did Star Wars….he’s clearly more than able, as long as it doesn’t sound like Star Wars.

75. captain_neill - January 6, 2009

It all comes down to it, to bring Star Trek to the mainstream a few sacrifices to what we love have to be made. Especially in this day in age when the mainstream films are being more dumbed down.

I am glad Star Trek is in the mainstream as it will now get the attention it deserves.

I am more excited about the film now, although I still have my concerns which I believe will evaporate completely when I see the film.

There will probably be some changes that will anger many of us hard core fans but thathere is so much to be gained from this movie, hopefully the newbies will watch the Trek we all love.

I cant wait.

76. AdamTrek - January 6, 2009

63. OneBuckFilms – January 5, 2009

“One man doesn’t do it all. Not by a long shot.”

You mean to tell me that it’s not some dork in his mama’s basement with a kazoo and an old harmonica bangin’ pots and pans together to get the most iconic sounds of the 23rd century?

Guys, here me now and believe me later, but Ben Burtt is a certifiable genius.

Wall-E was literally beautiful in sound design. The guy loves using practical mechanical devices to create sounds instead of using synthetic computer effects whenever possible. Watch the behind the scenes featurette about him on Wall-E. You’ll never guess what the ray gun shooting noise came from. Pure genius. I have absolutely no worries about sound design. Plus the guys a fan, which gives it a little extra deuterium in the tank, if you know what I mean.

=A=

77. AdamTrek - January 6, 2009

Also, if a Wilhelm is to be in the movie, it’ll be Chekov. I mean, come on…

78. Scott - January 6, 2009

In the time line you forgot to include Oct. 2007,
the month William Shatner got screwed out of the film!

79. Daoud - January 6, 2009

#34 sayeth “So “Star Trek” is in the can, is it?”

Prince Albert says you better let him out! ;)

#78 Scott, the screwing happened to William Shatner in 1993 when he agreed to DIE in Star Trek Generations.

The further screwing was his own fault, expecting to be in a major role. The only alternative for him was to play Grandpa Kirk or an Uncle Kirk and he expressed ZERO interest in such cameos. I wish he’d have been amenable to something like that, say the judge in Iowa who sentences young juvenile delinquent Jimmy to live with Uncle Frank, or the commandant of Starfleet Academy, and other such parts. Then again, who really knows what’s in that last scene with Nimoy….

80. Anthony Thompson - January 6, 2009

So long as he replicates the TOS sounds, I’ll be happy. Alarm klaxon; bridge background sounds; transporter effect; communicator and phaser sounds, etc. Most of those sounds were needlessly modified or abandoned during the film series (though the bridge sounds came back in 4 or 5). The TOS sounds are classic and should be adhered to.

81. Smittmaestro - January 6, 2009

Wow Ben Burtt doing sound design!

Fantastic!

It’s my fanboy dream!

-cs™

82. P Technobabble - January 6, 2009

Knowing that the bird is out of the oven does tend to intensify one’s hunger.

83. Star Trackie - January 6, 2009

#80 “Most of those sounds were needlessly modified or abandoned during the film series (though the bridge sounds came back in 4 or 5). The TOS sounds are classic and should be adhered to.”

Amen. The communicator chirp is still a sound I’ve never heard anywhere else. And the phasers from TOS SOUND like hot blazing electric energy. That water hose squirting sound from the 24th century, teamed with the un-electric boring orange and red beams left me cold. I hope he doesn’t jack around too much with the sounds and bring the utterly boring and dull sounds of the 24th century into the 23rd. That’s a bridge we don’t need to build.

84. Adam Cherry - January 6, 2009

please JJ Abrams you have no idea how much i love star trek. please whisk me away for a special screening pleaaasssseee

85. krikzil (aka Lix) - January 6, 2009

So when do the test screenings start?

86. commander K, USS Sovereign - January 6, 2009

I will be a test subject for this movie!

87. Donn - January 6, 2009

Wow, that’s huge that Ben Burtt did the sound. He is brilliant.

I thought I read somewhere that he retired after ROTS, but apparently I was mistaken, if he worked on Wall*E, and KOTCS I suppose.

Half of the value of the Star Wars DVDs to me is to listen to Ben Burtt’s commentary on the sound design. I can’t wait to hear his work, and hear him talk about his work, on Star Trek!

88. richpit - January 6, 2009

Am I the only person who’s never heard of Ben Burtt, has never paid attention AT ALL to who does Sound FX / mixing in a movie and barely ever even remembers the score / soundtrack after I walk out of the theater??

89. Orb of the Emissary - January 6, 2009

Can we skip to May now??

90. New Horizon - January 6, 2009

88. richpit –

Yup. lol

91. AdamTrek - January 6, 2009

88. richpit – January 6, 2009
Am I the only person who’s never heard of Ben Burtt, has never paid attention AT ALL to who does Sound FX / mixing in a movie and barely ever even remembers the score / soundtrack after I walk out of the theater??

You really are right though. When we walk out of the theater hopefully we won’t be thinking to ourselves, “the movie looked great but sounded terrible. The sound f/x were horrible” When hopefully we’ll be thinking that the sound immersed us into the world of Starfleet and the Enterprise, being so good that you don’t notice unless you want to.

92. Paulaner - January 6, 2009

More than stills and trailers, I would really like to hear a sample from the revamped Alexander Courage theme!

93. Closettrekker - January 6, 2009

#92—I’m not sure I wouldn’t rather hear that for the first time when I actually see the film.

94. Fred - January 6, 2009

I look forward to hearing updated versions of the original sound effects where they belong, with the items they are associated with. One thing that really made the newly remastered ST:TMP come alive for me was the inclusion of the original effects on the bridge. It made it seem more like the real thing, replacing the “office” sound effects they had rushed it through with on the original mix.

95. bmar - January 6, 2009

re: 88 –

Truth be told, you’re not SUPPOSED to notice the sound effects and music. That’s the genius of really good sound design and orchestration. If you noticed it, then you would have been “taken out of the moment” of the fiction of the movie.

In real life, dramatic music doesn’t accompany our every move (unless you’re Peter Griffin) and the sounds objects make are much more understated than in a movie.

Sound effects, music and so forth are SUPPOSED to blend in to your overall experience of the film – as do camera moves, edits and any “technique.” If you noticed any one of them as a “technique” while you’re watching the film, then someone hasn’t done their job properly.

96. Andy Patterson - January 6, 2009

80, and 83

I’m with you. Great stuff that didn’t need to be tampered with. I so missed all that in the movies.

97. Charles Trotter - January 6, 2009

Ben Burtt rocks! I’m thrilled to hear he was part of the production team.

For those interested, here’s Burtt’s Memory Alpha article: http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Ben_Burtt

We also have an article for Supervising Sound Editor Mark Stoeckinger here: http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Mark_Stoeckinger

98. S. John Ross - January 6, 2009

#95: I agree, absolutely.

99. bmar - January 6, 2009

Oh, and gotta love the Wilhelm Scream, BTW. We owe Ben for keeping that one alive and starting a Hollywood trend…

http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=787

100. Can't Wait for May 2008 - January 6, 2009

I wonder if the Wilhelm Scream will be used for a Red Shirt in the movie?

101. bmar - January 6, 2009

Either…

When the red-shirt bites it falling down to Vulcan.

-or-

Kirk lets go a Wilhelm scream when Spock grabs him on the bridge. ;)

Probably the former, but it would be fun if it were the latter.

102. Jason - January 6, 2009

Wow! It’s done more than 5 months before the premiere. I remember seeing interviews on the TMP DVD that mention the film was 100% done like this until the afternoon of the premiere (or pretty much like that), so this is nice. Now, I’m assuming we should hear something about ratings, runtime, etc. in the coming weeks (my prediction is PG13 for action violence, and a runtime somewhere around 120 – 130 minutes).

As for Ben Burtt coming onboard, great to hear (pun intended), simply the best sound designer ever. Maybe could there be a hint at Star Wars in this (like an R2D2 yell in the background somewhere). Did an amazing job with Wall-E, which is a reason one should own a surround sound system.

103. Star Trackie - January 6, 2009

#95 “If you noticed any one of them as a “technique” while you’re watching the film, then someone hasn’t done their job properly.”

..well, I’m sure I wasn’t the only one who noticed the wonderful “Roooroar” of the tie-fighters as well as the wonderfully elegent electrical “hum” of the lightsabers. I immediately thought of those sounds as very cool sound FX and it didn’t take me out of the magic of Hollywood any more than the very exciting and ground breaking visusal effects by John Dykstra. It’s all part of the magic and actually gave me more reason to enjoy it. I wouldn’t exactly say Mr. Burtt “hasn’t done his job properly.” just because his sounds didn’t melt into the pot with everything else.

That was the problem with Berman’s philosophy. He felt it all to be a distraction rather than a tool to use to generate emotion and feeling. Hving watched ALias and Lost I’m confident JJ has other things in mind.

104. That One Guy - January 6, 2009

80,

Agreed. And from what I can tell, it’s there. I don’t know if it means anything, but he’s used the transporter sound in both trailers thus far. The Red Alert sound is also still around. There are some things that will remain the same.

105. Fred - January 6, 2009

I notice sound effects a lot because I use them in my own work, and cna recognise ones used repeatedly on TV and movies from the same SFX libraries I own. I have heard most of the TOS effects in earlier movies, so a lot of the ones you heard on Trek were borrowed and re-worked to good effect. Watch “Voyage to a Prehistoric Planet” from 1965 if you want to hear a lot in one film. Many effects we came to associate with the bridge in there.

106. Fred - January 6, 2009

As an aside, I have sometimes discovered on my own how movie sounds were made. I accidentally re-created the lightsaber effect right after the first movie came out when I was playing around with my tape deck and microphone. When I ran the microphone near the back of the tape deck and picked up the eletronics inside, I heard that familiar sound. I could make my own lightsaber sound effects at 17!

Another time I found out how they made some of the effects on Lost In Space. The “disappearing” sound, and the “alien machinery background” were simply scrubbing a reel-to-reel tape of test tone back and forth with echo added.

107. bmar - January 6, 2009

103 – I would agree, that we notice those things on repeat viewing – especially on something that has become iconic like Star Wars. But my guess (and of course, I could be wrong, so please don’t take it as a criticism) would be that the FIRST time you (or any of us) saw Star Wars, you were too caught up in the moment to notice those things individually.

It’s only now, after so many years, so many times that we’ve seen them, that we stop to dissect and appreciate all of those small nuances for their value to the overall experience.

105 – I work in “the business” as well, and as a writer and producer, I tend to notice them as well – but I try to turn off that part of my brain when I’m watching something for the first time – to enjoy it for its own sake and not let my “inside knowledge” of production spoil it for me. It’s a hard thing to do!

In any case, glad to have someone like Ben Burtt on this.

108. Star Trackie - January 6, 2009

107 “But my guess (and of course, I could be wrong, so please don’t take it as a criticism) would be that the FIRST time you (or any of us) saw Star Wars, you were too caught up in the moment to notice those things individually.

Very true…it was more of a collective “wow”. All the eye candy, added to the music and sound FX made for a very delicous stew for the senses. What did blow me away, at the very moment, was the visuals. Those left my jaw on the floor the very first time!

Sadly, with CGI these days, it’s harder and harder to deliver that knockout punch as everything seems to look uniformly great. I miss the days of being truly in awe of what’s up on that screen.

109. Pontihog - January 6, 2009

Anyone know if we will get an advertisement during the Superbowl?

110. TomBot99/4A - January 6, 2009

Ben Burtt truly is awesome! And that he continues to contribute and create so much to so many projects is also a great achievement in longevity and innovation.

111. Dr. Image - January 6, 2009

#83 Star Trackie-
Amen, AMEN!
The TOS sounds are not only superior to their bland TNG counterparts, but also superior to most of the movie sfx. Hell, even the TAS sound effects were too!
Burtt really needs to do his homework, and hopefully already has.

Personally, I liked Al Howarth’s work on TMP. Don’t ask me why…

And please JJ, phaser beams should be electric BLUE, not wimpy, squirty orange!!!

112. Jamie - January 6, 2009

Wow, Ben Burtt!

It just seems to get better and better. This film is a fan’s dream, with perfect ingredients.

Short of Gene himself coming back to life and making a cameo, this film pretty much has it all.

In my opinion, Ben Burtt and John Wiliams are responsible for a very large part of the success of Star Wars. Perhaps even the biggest part.

Having Burtt in this film is really going to take it to another dimension. Even if this film doesn’t turn out to be as amazing as we hope, we will surely still have a film many times better than any of the Star Wars prequels :)

113. Kirk's Girdle - January 6, 2009

Funny, when I first heard the TIE fighters, I wondered why they sounded like the dinosaurs from “Journey to the Center of the Earth” or the “men-fish” from Irwin Allen’s TV series Voyage to the Bottom of the Seas. Simple, Burtt used this canned sound effect and mixed it with another to create something new.

At this point in my life, the Wilhelm bugs the hell out of me. It was even speeded up to a high pitch for when Ben Stiller tosses little half-squat near the end of Tropic Thunder.

When they were making Star Wars, Burtt went on a walkabout to find and record new sounds. Thirty years later, I think he needs to get his Nike’s on again and put some new material in the sound bank. After all this time, many of his iconic sounds are re-used so often as to be a distraction.

114. Simon - January 6, 2009

Anyone pining for the 60’s sound FX needs to have their ears cleaned.

What sounded good from tinny 60’s TVs is much different from multi-thousand watt digital surround systems of today.

A lot of those sound FX were canned library. Watch the 1953 “War of the Worlds” for the photon torpedo sounds and the like.

Ben Burtt is a terrific sound designer. Hopefully he won’t dial down the surrounds and LFE like on “Revenge of the Sith” (the bass from the lightsabers in Episodes I & II are absent) or “Wall*E”. Previous Pixar films were much more holographic in their sound design by Gary Rydstrom.

“Whomever did the sound for Star Trek V”….his name is Mark Mangini and he’s done a LOT of films, including “Star Trek IV”, “Gremlins” (pretty much anything done by Joe Dante), “The Fifth Element” and many others.

115. dep1701 - January 6, 2009

#64
” remember hearing the new edition of Star Wars (ep IV) and being so taken out of the moment by hearing the interior sound of a TOS shuttlecraft as the sound effect in Ben’s little hut. It was such a contrast to the quiet serene scene I had remembered as a kid – when Obi Wan tells Luke about the force, his father and all that. ”

Hate to bust your bubble, guy, but that “shuttlecraft sound” has ALWAYS been in that scene. I noticed it the very first time I saw the film in a theater in ’77, and even had it on audio cassette tape long before it came out on home video. If you go back and find the first VHS tapes of the movie ( long before ANY digital tweaking was being done ), you will STILL hear that sound effect. The only reason you’re noticing it more now is the newer sound mix is done in 5.1 and the separation and clarity of the tracks makes background sounds far more noticeable.

116. tlh1138 - January 6, 2009

Having Ben Burtt work on this film is excellent news! I first realized who he was and what he did for Star Wars when the NPR radio version first aired in 1981. The 30 minute documentary that aired with it went into detail about his work on the two movies (so far at the time) and the radio program. From that point forward I’ve been a huge fan. This has kicked the new Trek movie up another notch for me.

117. francis - January 7, 2009

Human civilization have advance over the years since the last star trek series or movies.I just love star trek and I hope this will not end here.I’m also hoping that they initiate a new star trek series on TV, life is not worth living without star trek on TV.

118. screaming satellite - January 7, 2009

117 – nah i could do without trek on tv for a good few years while we have the movie series going solo again! (like 1979 – 1986)…then after the third movie id like to see a new tv series (preferably set post TNG in the 25th century)

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120. Andy Patterson - January 7, 2009

115

Well if that is the case then it’s so blaringly loud that it seemed out of place in the new editions. Like many other things they did wrong. It evidently served it’s purpose in the original because I never noticed it before then.

121. Kev Davis - January 8, 2009

Any Trek without Rick Berman has to be a blessing. That’s why Original Star Trek is still the best. Roll on May!

122. Sarah S - January 8, 2009

I think I’ll schedule May 8th off at work

123. Chris M - November 30, 2009

Great to take a nostalgic look back at the major milestones of Star Trek (2009) which as we now know has been a phenominal success, to follow the film from the first announcement of the movie and every step along the way to the point where I now have a limited edition Star Trek DVD set sitting at my deskwith the discs in the saucer section of a model of the Enterprise was an absolutely amazing eperience, not least of which was living through the re-birth of the franchise and to see it once again become the success it so richly deserves is something that will never be repeated again and something I will value forever! :)

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