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Exclusive: LeVar Burton Talks New Roles, Roddenberry, Blogging and more February 14, 2009

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Celebrity,Interview,TNG , trackback

Tomorrow night LeVar Burton, better known to Trekkies as engineer Geordi La Forge on Star Trek The Next Generation, appears in the Lifetime movie Taken in Broad Daylight. Burton also has a number of other directing and acting projects in the works, so it seemed like a good time to see how life after the VISOR was treating Burton

 

Burton Interview (Part 1)
Tomorrow night LeVar Burton co-stars in "Taken in Broad Daylight," the inspiring true survival story of teenager Anne Sluti, who was kidnapped from her hometown of Kearney, NE in 2001. Burton plays a police investigator and negotiator. This is Burton’s second collaboration with with producers Charlene Blaine, Mark Wolfe and Susan R. Rodgers and AMediaVision Productions, for whom he recently directed a feature film, "Reach for Me," starring Alfre Woodard and Seymour Cassel, about two very different roommates at a hospice who learn to live their final days to the fullest. In the first part of our interview, we focus on these projects and what else he has on tap for 2009, plus a bit about his new blogging hobby and a bit about Trek as well (with more Trek coming in part 2).
 

TrekMovie.com: What can you tell us about Taken in Broad Daylight?

LeVar Burton: It was produced by my friend Mark Wolfe and I got a call from him saying ‘I need you to come up to Winnipeg for a month and can you be here in two days?’ and there is nothing I wouldn’t do for him so I said yes before I read the script.

TM:  Did you know anything about the real-life story of the abduction of Anne Sulti?

Burton: I knew a little bit about it, especially from Mark when we worked on another project, Reach for Me. But when I read the script I was surprised at how much of a taut thriller it was, it is a good story.

TM:  Your character, detective Mike Timbrook, is one of those composite characters, but did you do any research talking to real-life cops?

Burton: Well 48 hours after I got the call I was on the plane to Canada, and the day after I got there we were shooting. There was no research! You don’t do research for a TV movie, what are you nuts? [laughs]

TM: Have you ever played a cop before? Did you like it?

Burton: It was fun putting on the gun every day and liked the badge? [laughs] I don’t know. I am not like that where I can answer questions about the acting process. It isn’t something I can explain.


Burton in "Taken in Broad Daylight" airing Sunday at 8PM on Lifetime

TM: You mentioned Reach for Me, which you directed, what can you tell us about that and how you got involved?

Burton: Again it was one of those phone calls from my friend Mark Wolfe. They needed a director and he said that he thought I would be terrific for it and they needed an answer in two days and I said yes, then I read the script and called back and said ‘I’m really in now!’ [laughs]

TM: Reach for Me deals with serious issues. Did you have concerns about doing a film that deals with a subject that is usually depressing, about dealing with death?

Burton: No. Reach for Me is about life, not death at all, and that is why I wanted to do it. It is a movie about how we live, not how we die, even though it takes place in a hospice.

TM: What was it like working with Alfre [Woodard] again, and Seymour Cassel?

Burton: Alfre is like my sister. Any opportunity to hang with my sister is a good opportunity. Having done that for so many years, I just love good acting and she is one of the best there is. I try to create an atmosphere on the set where the acting was respected…and that was joyful. Seymour did an episode of Next Gen, but we have been friends over the years, and it was just wonderful. I was so happy when he said yes.

TM: It has got good festival buzz, any word on theatrical or DVD distribution?

Burton: I know they are working on it. We have got terrific festival buzz. We had a great time in Germany at the Oldenburg Festival in 2008. I trust the movie will find an audience, I am really proud of it. I am confident it will find its audience, but at some point you have to let go, and I am on to other projects.


Burton directing Seymour Cassel in "Reach for Me"

TM: What are those other projects?

Burton: I have two feature films that I am directing. One called Initiation, based on a book "Of Water and the Spirit," by Malidoma Patrice Some. Another called Ruby, it is a story about Ruby McCollum, the first African American woman sentenced to the electric chair in the US. We are close to financing on both, and it will probably be Ruby and we would shoot this July. I am doing a play in Spring, here in LA, called The Caterer, by my friend Brian Alan Lane, who was one of the writers on Trek. I am doing Main Street, written by Horton Foote, also as an actor. So I am doing a little acting and a little directing. It is shaping up to be a pretty good year.

TM: In the last month you have really jumped into the Web 2.0 with your new blog and prolific Twittering. Why the sudden embrace?

Burton: Well if you read my first blog, that sort of explains it. It coincided when I went to CES and when I got my name back on Twitter from the fake LeVar Burton. Which turned out to be not so bad. He is not such a bad guy once he understood that his attempts at having some laughs was causing somebody else harm. I would like to meet him one day, actually.

TM: In a recent blog post you talked about about Gene Roddenberry and how as a big Trek fan, you were confused and disappointed to find out that he was human, can you go into that a little more?

Burton: I will go a bit into detail but no too much because, obviously, a lot of that I consider private. However, I will share this…Gene was a human being and full of contradictions. He was this great visionary, and yet he was a womanizer. All of the women all wore short skirts you know? He had somewhat sexist views. Star Trek was full of spiritual meaning and yet he was an agnostic. Those kinds of things.

TM: So getting back to your Twitter thing, what is going on with Wil Wheaton? You tweeted about how Wil stopped following you on Twitter.

Burton: You will have to ask Wil. Would you ask him? I have no idea why he stopped following me.

TM: Is there some kind of feud? Is this going to get like Shatner and Takei?

Burton: That remains to be seen. [laughs]

NOTE: TrekMovie did ask Wil about it, and here is what he said:

Wil Wheaton: Oh, this is just silly. I start and stop following people all the time, depending on a whole bunch of different things. Anyone looking for high school drama should go someplace else. I absolutely adore LeVar, and as far as I know, there are no hard feelings between us at all

TM: You recently blogged and tweeted about re-quitting smoking, so you think you are going to make it this time?

Burton: Day eight baby! I am really feeling optimistic about my chances. [Note: interview done two days ago, but Burton updated Twitter this morning that he was still a non-smoker]

TM: You use your picture of showing off your Levar/Kunta ambigram tattoo as your Twitter icon and you often refer to yourself as ‘Kunta.’ So do you relate more that character from Roots more than Geordi from Star Trek?

Burton: Well I refer to myself as Kunta, but I do it because it is funny and because I can. 

TM: But you did get it tattooed…

Burton: Well I guess I would have to say the answer to that question is yes, then. I think the spirit of Kunta lives big inside of me, because I see Kunta as a warrior.

TM: What is your war?

Burton: Life!


Burton as Kunta Kinte in the 1977 mini-series "Roots" (L) and showing off his Levar/Kunta tattoo in 2009 (R)

More from Burton in Part 2
Coming up soon we will have the second part of our interview with LeVar Burton, where we talk all about Star Trek, including Nemesis, the new movie, and possible TNG reunions, and more.

See LeVar in Taken in Broad Daylight – Sunday Night on Lifetime
Taken in Broad Daylight, the true story of the abduction of Anne Sluti, starring Sara Canning, James Van Der Beek and LeVar Burton, airs Sunday at 8PM Eastern on Lifetime More information at Lifetime.com.

Here is the trailer and some more images of Burton from Taken in Broad Daylight.


(click to enlarge)

And keep an eye out for Reach for Me, directed by LeVar Burton, starring Alfre Woodard and Seymour Cassel, with an appearance from LeVar and even Adrienne Barbeau. The movie is currently looking for distribution. More information at the official site.


Poster for "Reach for Me," directed by LeVar Burton

 

Comments

1. Ian Watson - February 14, 2009

I love that tattoo.

2. Captaingoesdownwiththeship - February 14, 2009

Ahh, remembering my childhood watching Levar Burton on reading rainbow and TNG. Definitely looking forward to seeing his new movie on lifetime.

3. rooster - February 14, 2009

Keep it coming Anthony, LeVar… Good stuff!

4. spock - February 14, 2009

Levar was on the twit podcast two weeks ago talking tech.

5. danpaine - February 14, 2009

He’s aging well.

6. Sloan47 - February 14, 2009

Here’s my Levar Burton story: I remember watching Next Gen every day after school and LaForge was easily my favorite character. He is one of the reasons I became an Engineer. I remember back when I was about 12 talking amongst friends about the characters on the show and the topic of how many black characters were on the show came up. I was momentarily stunned because in all my years watching this show, I never gave it a second thought (or even first thought for that matter) about the color of anyone’s skin. I never thought of LaForge or Worf as black. I suppose the moral of this story is that I’m very grateful for LeVar Burton’s influence on my life from Next Gen to Reading Rainbow. LeVar, if you end up reading this… thank you.

7. hitch1969© speaks with wise tongue™. - February 14, 2009

” will go a bit into detail but no too much because, obviously, a lot of that I consider private. However, I will share this…Gene was a human being and full of contradictions. He was this great visionary, and yet he was a womanizer. All of the women all wore short skirts you know? He had somewhat sexist views. Star Trek was full of spiritual meaning and yet he was an agnostic. Those kinds of things.”

whoa.

just effing whoa.

AIIIIIGHT!!

=h=

8. Wheeli - February 14, 2009

Note: the Abbreviation for Nebraska is NE, If you put NB on a letter it will end up in Canada,

9. Brad - February 15, 2009

Levar is such a great guy! I’d really like to meet him one day!

10. hitch1969© speaks with wise tongue™. - February 15, 2009

Ok, went to his website and the actual quote that AP asked him about is:

“To this day it trips me out that I was such a HUGE fan of the original Star Trek series and today I am a part of that history. Getting to meet and then getting to know Gene Roddenberry was a dream come true. He was a hero of mine, this amazing visionary who had created a future realm that I wanted to help birth into being. It was however, confusing to me and disappointing to discover that this “great man” was also human. Ultimately, and this revelation has only come in the past few years, I have come to really appreciate those parts of Gene I couldn’t reconcile when I was a younger man. Those parts that he himself had already embraced and made peace with. Since then I have tried to be more forgiving where my heroes are concerned.”

LeVar confuses ME. Who is this guy? I almost gleen from that he learned that Roddenberry used the N word or something in his life? Is this idealistic, 5th grade mentality or what? OF COURSE Roddenberry was complex. Did it make him a bad man? Does it make LeVar a better man?

This whole line of thought totally disgusts me. Fault him for being a man, who chased short skirts? Really??? He didnt BILLieve in God? Who didn’t know this?? Whats this guy talking about????

The only thing that I think happening here, as I have always thought, is that LeVar Burton is a man of small mechanical proportions who compensates by thinking that because he had a role in “Roots” that his fecal deposits do not offend one’s olfactory senses.

You know what is so sad, is that he’s so effing cool simply for what he has accomplished in movies and tv that seeing him try to roundaboutly take out A LEGEND is the lamest statement of lame statements. Talk about a black chip on the shoulder. Whats next? If the gloves dont fit, you must acquit?

who just effing whoa. BITE THE HAND, buddy. Especially when the guy is dead…. and his wife just died.

I find LeVar’s remarks about Gene Roddenberry totally disrespectful. He should be ashamed of himself.

THE WOMEN!!

=h=

11. GaryS - February 15, 2009

He did a great job directing The Pegasus one of my favorite episodes of TNG and Timeless the100th episode of Voyager.

12. Steamblade - February 15, 2009

10.

You honestly have no idea of the context of Mr. Burton’s feelings regarding Gene Roddenberry or anything else for that matter. It is very disconcerting when we find our idols are flawed. Not that we shouldn’t expect it, but it’s still sometimes jarring. Why don’t you get off of your high horse and think a bit before you rant about how others should perceive those they esteem.

13. Requiem1971 - February 15, 2009

With all do respects to LeVar Burton in his continued acting, did anyone catch Conner Trinner showing up on Terminator Chronicals last night? He was great to see again. I really enjoyed his roll as Trip Tucker on Star Trek Enterprise. Speaking of which, did anyone notice Tahmoh Penikett? he appeard on the premier episode of Dollhouse??? Tahmoh had played the character Karl Agathon “Helo” on Battlestar Galactica.

14. Kirk's Revenge - February 15, 2009

12

Well put.

15. Rocket Scientist - February 15, 2009

His candor and honesty are pretty illuminating. I really don’t see how he could have been more respectful or discreet in expressing such thoughts. I didn’t read this as him trashing Roddenberry.

16. hitch1969© speaks with wise tongue™. - February 15, 2009

re 12. Steamblade

No, I read his entire blog entry and understand the context of what he was saying. I am not on a high horse. My point of consideration is that Gene Roddenberry’s son reads this site as do many other loyal constituents such as myself. I thought that LeVar’s comments were counterproductive, thoughtless, and rude.

I honestly DO understand what Mr. Burton’s feelings are regarding Gene Roddenberry. He made that very clear in his post, which I did copy and paste here.

THE WOMEN!!

=h=

17. hitch1969© speaks with wise tongue™. - February 15, 2009

re:15. Rocket Scientist – February 15, 2009
His candor and honesty are pretty illuminating. I really don’t see how he could have been more respectful or discreet in expressing such thoughts. I didn’t read this as him trashing Roddenberry.

He should have not expressed these thoughts. PERIOD.

=h=

18. Will - February 15, 2009

re: hitch1969© speaks with wise tongue™

Yes! You are correct! No one should express their opinions of people once they are dead!! I totally agree!

/sarcasm

If Mr. Roddenberry was that way, not saying it isn’t gonna change anything and, more than likely, his son knows at least some of the situation… so, the only person hurt by it are those who hold Mr. Roddenberry up on a high pedestal of infallibility who, like a fanatic, can’t accept that while the person they admire may have been great and had some great ideas(as LeVar stated), also had myriad flaws.

It is the good and the bad which makes up everyone and to ignore the bad of someone is to ignore the truth of someone which, in my opinion, is far more disrespectful than uttering some less than “shining” comments about a person after their death.

Can’t wait for the next half of the interview!

19. Shane Zeranski - February 15, 2009

Love LeVar

20. Iowagirl - February 15, 2009

- Gene was a human being and full of contradictions. -

Well, aren’t we all? ;)

21. hitch1969© speaks with wise tongue™. - February 15, 2009

re 18. Will

sorta understood. SORTA. Look, I am not coming from any background that espouses Roddenberry as a “visionary”. In fact, I acknowledge him as a man first and as BEING a man myself… understanding all the politically incorrect urges that encompass that.

Maybe LeVar shouldnt have made The Great Bird his “hero” in the not knowing of him.

And WOW… finally only a few years ago (and many after GR actually died) did LeVar learn about what GR did.

SO LeVar heard 3 years ago that Gene Roddenberry might have used the N word. Although.. in working with Gene Roddenberry from 1986 until his death in the early 90s (’91?) he had no clue about that?

OK so if Roddenberry was a racist, obv. no one knew this until now. because he didnt BILLieve in God, and loved POO-say.

ay carambotz

=h=

22. hitch1969© speaks with wise tongue™. - February 15, 2009

and P.S> who even effing cares!

23. Sci - February 15, 2009

#20: Not funny. Not funny at all.

#10: You’re completely blowing Burton’s comments out of proportion. Further, several of your statements are borderline racist.

I almost gleen from that he learned that Roddenberry used the N word or something in his life?

A borderline racist comment. Why would you assume that Burton is trying to say or imply that? Burton gives no indication of that whatsoever.

OF COURSE Roddenberry was complex. Did it make him a bad man? Does it make LeVar a better man?

Actually, Burton’s whole point was growing older and realizing your own fallibility, and therefore realizing the necessity of forgiving others for being fallible.

The only thing that I think happening here, as I have always thought, is that LeVar Burton is a man of small mechanical proportions who compensates by thinking that because he had a role in “Roots” that his fecal deposits do not offend one’s olfactory senses.

Yet another borderline racist statement. Burton gives no indication whatsoever that he believes that having played Kunta Kinte in Roots gives him any moral high ground, and the idea that you would attribute such to him makes sense only if the fact that he is an African-American somehow threatens you.

You know what is so sad, is that he’s so effing cool simply for what he has accomplished in movies and tv that seeing him try to roundaboutly take out A LEGEND is the lamest statement of lame statements.

He’s not trying to take out a legend, he’s discussing meeting a great man but realizing that even great men are still men. Why does that threaten you so much?

Talk about a black chip on the shoulder. Whats next? If the gloves dont fit, you must acquit?

Completely and utterly racist. You should be ashamed. A guy talks about realizing that a childhood idol wasn’t perfect, and your reaction is to accuse him of being arrogant and entitled because of his race? I would remind you that Burton never brings up race, you do.

24. Sci - February 15, 2009

A further note, re: Burton’s blog comments with regards to Roddenberry:

His statements are completely appropriate. In that blog, one of the things he talks about is the effect of fame upon a person and his/her behavior. He’s talking about the different expectations people have of the famous, and about how sometimes people might or might not live up to those expectations. He wasn’t talking to diss Roddenberry, he was talking about realizing that no one is perfect. And at no point does he bring up race in discussing Roddenberry.

25. hitch1969© speaks with wise tongue™. - February 15, 2009

Sci-

I’m sorry that you are so into keeping track of who is bring up “race” that you are unable to digest slander of a dead man.

Do you not realize that there are no great men, but simply men that do great things?

And while they are doing these great things perhaps they are tainted by their own racism, sexism, and selfishness?

Again, dealing with grade school, idealistic mentality REALLY REALLY frustrates me. You call me racist and I submit to you, that the entire HUMAN RACE is racist and these issues will never – ever – be solved.

For LeVar to point out things in Roddenberry, that as a man, he has not resolved himself – is A CHEAP SHOT.

Again, GR is not here to comment back. Majel is not here to defend this.

So please think about the comments we say here and respect the living relatives that read this.

THE WOMEN!!

=h=

26. Sci - February 15, 2009

#25:

First off, slander is spoken. In print, it’s libel.

Secondly, he didn’t libel anyone. He didn’t accuse anyone of any crime. He was talking about fame, and realizing that people are people. I’m terribly sorry if it offends you that he apparently wasn’t as cynical about Roddenberry’s character as you would have preferred him to be, but I think his observations about realizing that you have to take the good with the bad in a person, even a childhood hero, is completely valid, and is in no way a libelous statement against that person.

You call me racist and I submit to you, that the entire HUMAN RACE is racist and these issues will never – ever – be solved.

Dude, you’re changing the topic. Burton talked about realizing that Roddenberry wasn’t perfect and then about realizing that it was unrealistic of him to expect Roddenberry to be perfect. At no point did he invoke the issue of race. You chose to attribute Burton’s feelings and behavior to Burton’s race, which is a deeply racist reaction. You should be ashamed.

For LeVar to point out things in Roddenberry, that as a man, he has not resolved himself – is A CHEAP SHOT.

You also apparently have no reading comprehension, because part of Burton’s point was realizing that he, himself, is as fallible as Roddenberry, and that therefore it had been unreasonable of his younger self to expect perfection. In other words, Burton is criticizing his younger self moreso than he is Roddenberry.

But you are, again, changing the subject. For you to arbitrarily decide that Burton must be motivated by a sense of racial entitlement says MUCH MORE about you than it does about Burton. You have shamed yourself by assuming that the issue is racial and then attack Burton on the basis of his race. Gene Roddenberry would not approve, however much you might try to portray yourself as his “defender.”

27. hitch1969© speaks with wise tongue™. - February 15, 2009

Sci-

I agree to disagree. Your counterpoints are compelling. Of course, not as compelling as mine… but I do appreciate that you took me to task. I like that you paid attention.

We can effectively leave this to the jury at this point. In doing so, I must remark that I do value what you have brought to the table. It was well thought out and although contrary to my POV, interesting nonetheless.

THE WOMEN!!

=h=

28. CmdrR - February 15, 2009

Good stuff, Levar. Keep it up!

29. horatio - February 15, 2009

Can we keep this here free of racist statements or to be frank free of racists respectively people who link to their racist statements somewhere else?

30. Dom - February 15, 2009

Wow! I love it when people start calling each other something’-ists’! My head is spinning from all the self-righeousness here!

Mr Burton was making a good point about flawed idols. We all know Gene was a better ideas man than a writer and producer. Notoriously, if an episode of Trek had a story problem, Gene was the fixer-upper.

Later on, a Cult of Roddenberry did develop and I found all the Gene-worship in the TNG era a little hypocritical. He was a man who worked to feed his family, just like the rest of us!

I found the contradictions Levar pointed out irritating in TNG. It almost seemed as if Mr Roddenberry was acting out some sort of denial onscreen. The decision to ignore religion among humans in TNG and the virtual eradication of people’s cultures in the show in order to create a rather robotic underplayed, passionless, self-righteous version of human beings made the show a real letdown for me! And, ironically, Levar Burton was one of the icons of black culture as Kunta Kinte!

Is this the great vision? That after Kirk’s time, humans lose thier humanity and become a faceless, mulched together, sexless, raceless society of automatons?

Anyway, I’m glad to see Mr Burton has moved on from Trek and is doing new things.

Good luck to him, especially with the quitting smoking. I fell off the wagon again last night – in fairness, being single on Valentine’s day is a good excuse!!

31. horatio - February 15, 2009

“Robotic underplayed, passionless, self-righteous version of human beings” ???
Were Kirk’s quarters bigger than that of other crewmembers? Was racism or sexism present during TOS? Trek has been an utopia from the beginning, that TNG started with this is one of the Trek myths like “beam me up Scotty” or Kirk being nothing more than a womanizer and space cowboy.

32. Schultz - February 15, 2009

On Roddenberry’s alleged sexism:

In this famous speech of his (also rereleased on the ST-MP film score double CD), he said that he had been reproached with being sexist, e.g. portraying the women in StarTrek as sex objects. His answer was quite disarming: He said that there was nothing wrong with being a sex object and that he enjoyed being regarded as a sex object himself from time to time. (And Kirk, who was not only a womanizer but also a “sex object” himself, is actually a prime example of “sexism against” a male character in Star Trek.)

I don’t know: If Roddenberry’s ways were “sexist”, it was sexism of the healthy kind. I rather see him as having been not as prudish as most other people, as a libertine, as someone who didn’t shy away from free and eroticized views, which must have been revolutionary in TOS-era television.

I guess LeVar Burton—as much as I like him—has fallen into the trap of looking at past events through modern eyes, from our times that are to some extent ruled by anti-libertarianism, political correctness and (maybe a little too much) anti-defamation initiatives, something that apparently also influenced TNG. Just because Roddenberry would in today’s interpretation be diminished as a “sexist”, doesn’t mean that he actually was one.

33. Dom - February 15, 2009

31. horatio.

Nonsense!

Of course officers have bigger quarters than crews! Did you see TUC where Excelsior crewmen slept in bunks?

TOS was never a utopia. Utopias can’t exist. Kirk would certainly have been paid more than his crew (we know there was still finance in TOS) and owns a very fancy apartment overlooking San Francisco bay. I doubt his next door neighbour was an ensign!

Kirk was a womaniser, in part from the stress of his job. He was in a position of power, had a good income, was a damn fine starship captain, so why wouldn’t he have plenty of women cozying up to him?

Kirk was a passionate man, as was Spock, as he desperately tried to keep control of his emotions. McCoy was also one of the most compassionate characters portrayed on Trek.

Yet these guys still sat around drinking alcohol while listening to nervous Mr Bailey’s performance on the bridge and still liked to party.

TOS was a red-blooded era, where humans had all their passions while trying to better their worse aspects. But the TOS era could still as easily create monsters like Dr Adams and Kodos the Executioner.

TOS was a hopeful future (not the much-mooted ‘positive’ future) and remained a valid extrapolation our world where we learned lessons each week, along with the crew.

TNG existed in a separate fantasy universe that had a crew swagger around space, arrogantly telling other races, along with the viewers, how much better they are than everyone else. Not to say the show didn’t have its moments, but the characters were so sanitised, especially in comparison with their portrayal in David Gerrold’s Farpoint novelisation that they barely seemed human anymore.

Better the human race, with all its flaws, die than end up like the humans of TNG. At least DS9 redressed the balance somewhat, especially in its portrayal of the USS Odyssey crew: a wonderful parody of the TNG era!

34. horatio - February 15, 2009

Ah and TNG never had an Admiral Satie? TOS never Russians and Japanese on board? If you don’t like TNG, that is fine, yet I am still irritated by “faceless, mulched together, sexless, raceless society of automatons”. Last time I checked there were people of all species, genders and skin colours in TNG as well as TOS, the difference to today being that gender or race or whatever does not matter anymore.

“Kirk was a womaniser, in part from the stress of his job. He was in a position of power, had a good income, was a damn fine starship captain, so why wouldn’t he have plenty of women cozying up to him?”

I am irritated again by this. That might be your view upon Trek, but TOS never was about that. Kirk did not work for money or to get the interest of woman, he worked because he loved his job.

35. Dom - February 15, 2009

34. horatio ‘Ah and TNG never had an Admiral Satie?’

She was old and she was there so Picard could lecture us!

‘TOS never Russians and Japanese on board?’

Yes they did and they brought their national culture with them. Keiko O’Brein was the only human character with any real national identity in TNG and unfortunately she was the second most irritating b@st@rd in TNG after Wesley Crusher!

‘If you don’t like TNG, that is fine,’

I don’t much and yes that is fine! Everyone’s entitled to their opinion and I entirely respect that some people love TNG. But many of things that they see as positives in TNG, I see as negatives!

‘yet I am still irritated by “faceless, mulched together, sexless, raceless society of automatons”. Last time I checked there were people of all species, genders and skin colours in TNG as well as TOS, the difference to today being that gender or race or whatever does not matter anymore.’

It’s not that it didn’t matter. It was ignored. You could pretty have changed the race and country of origin of any human character in TNG without having to rewrite a single line.

Part of what made TOS cool was that Chekov went on about Russians doing things first, Sulu was a cool Asian guy who could wield a scary samurai sword and Uhura was a beautiful woman of African descent who was completely treated as an equal, yet brought her African origins with her.

‘I am irritated again by this.’

Well boo hoody hoody hoo! ;) It’s a jolly little discussion forum, so try to take things a little less personally! We’re all (mostly) friends round here!

‘That might be your view upon Trek, but TOS never was about that. Kirk did not work for money or to get the interest of woman, he worked because he loved his job.’

He loved his job and his ship. As a man in a position of power and wealth, of course women threw themselves at him. He didn’t pull any of his female crewmembers though. I’ll bet Rand fancying the pants off Jimbo was why she was transferred off-ship.

Kirk enjoyed himself. He was young (then) and free and single so why shouldn’t he have some fun? Gawd bless you Captain Kirk of the weekly fistfight, ripped shirt and limitless libido!

Peace? :)

36. horatio - February 15, 2009

I did not intend to become personal, sorry if I sounded aggressive.

Last time I checked it was Kirk who lusted after Rand, not vice versa.

My nationality has little to do with the books I read, the movies I watch, the food I eat, etc. Cultures mix and everyone is free to pick out what he or she likes, so why should this trend not continue, especially in the fictional world of Trek where Earth is united for nearly 200 years already during TOS?
But you are right, that was more clear in TNG where we had a french Captain drinking english tea and reading english literature. By the way, Picard never lectured anyone, especially not an alien culture, the Prime Directive prevents that. And Picard neither lectured us in “Drumhead”, those things stand in the constitution of any democratic country and should be self-evident to anyone but those who still life in the Dark Ages.

37. sean - February 15, 2009

Hitch…oh Hitch. You’ve come so far out of left field we couldn’t even see you coming. Levar is really talking about his own flaws, not those of his ‘idol’. We *all* do this, to some degree. Heck, Trek has explored it on more than one occasion, so clearly the producers & writers (Rodenberry included) felt it was an important lesson for all of us, not just ‘a fifth grader’. He’s merely talking about Rodenberry AS A MAN, something I feel should be encouraged. Just because you acknowledge the flawed nature of a man doesn’t mean you’re ‘biting the hand that feeds’, ‘taking out a legend’ or ‘have a black chip on your shoulder’.

And it’s wonderful that you’ve grown past such imperfections, but many people have not. It’s very easy to engage in hero worship without even realizing that’s what you’re doing. Just look at the so-called ‘Cult of Rodenberry’ that began in the 70s. I still see proponents pop up on these same message boards, and I assure you most of them are grown adults. Blind devotion is hardly limited to children, unless you want to ignore that last few thousand years of recorded history.

I normally get a kick out of your commentary here, but dragging race into this just because Levar is African-American *is* offensive, no matter what spin you put on it. You talk about him slandering Gene Rodenberry, yet you accuse Rodenberry of using the ‘N Word’ to spark this whole issue. I think you really need to reconsider your perspective on this.

38. Dom - February 15, 2009

36. horatio: ‘I did not intend to become personal, sorry if I sounded aggressive.’

‘scool! No sweat. I had people here be really offensive to me, but I’ve survived! ;)

‘Last time I checked it was Kirk who lusted after Rand, not vice versa.’

No, Rand did her best in eps like Miri to give Kirk a woody! Kirk did lust after her as well, cos he liked pulling anything in a miniskirt, so that’s probably why it was better for all concerned that she get shipped off somewhere else!

‘My nationality has little to do with the books I read, the movies I watch, the food I eat, etc.’

Well it certainly influences mine! I’d love to pick up a French book or a Swedish one, but at best I need an English-language writer to translate it for me! And I like Asian food because I’m interested in it from both a taste and a cultural/historical point of view! In TNG, you’d simply get a computer to pre-fab a bland wasabi sauce with alcohol-free sake and not be interested in where it came from!

‘Cultures mix and everyone is free to pick out what he or she likes, so why should this trend not continue, especially in the fictional world of Trek where Earth is united for nearly 200 years already during TOS?’

You’ve answered your own question. In TNG, cultural identity has died in favour of an amorphous . . . thing! Cultures haven’t so much mixed as faded away. And when different cultures cease to give us anything new and the ‘conflict’ or argument between differing ideologies ceases, we curl up and die, as innovation ceases!

‘But you are right, that was more clear in TNG where we had a french Captain drinking english tea and reading english literature.’

That’s because Patrick Stewart took control of his character after a couple of years, threw out the French baggage that was aimed at tempting actors such as Louis Jourdan for the role and turned Picard into an RSC-cadenced Englishman. Unfortunately, eventually all the writers and actors started copying Mr Stewart’s speech patterns, leading to the overblown sub-Shakespearian dialogue that made so much modern Star Trek seem a bit of a joke outside the fan world.

There was nothing ‘worthy’ about how Patrick Stewart portrayed Picard: he just got fed up after the first two seasons of iffy writing and producing and started to play Picard his way!

‘By the way, Picard never lectured anyone, especially not an alien culture, the Prime Directive prevents that.’

The Prime Directive in TNG was an excuse for the Federation to behave like self-appointed gods. The behaviour of the crew towards the fate of Boraal II in Homeward is one of the most disgusting, criminal acts ever portrayed in Star Trek. Picard should have been tried for genocide after that episode! Imagine in the present day and age if a volcanic island is about to blow and the US Navy had vessels that could save the inhabitants and doesn’t, citing economics and social factors. There’d be an outcry and justifiable comparisons with the Nazis! The Prime Directive is a vital guideline in TOS that became an dangerously unbendable law in TNG, with catastrophic consequences!

‘And Picard neither lectured us in “Drumhead”’

No, Picard and his crew regularly played ‘lets laugh at the freak’ whether it be snickering at Data’s computer-like behaviour, Barclay’s mildly dysfunctional behaviour or anything to do with the Ferengi. It took Quark in DS9 to give the Federation two fingers over their patronising attitudes!

‘those things stand in the constitution of any democratic country and should be self-evident to anyone but those who still life in the Dark Ages.’

And so with taking yourself too seriously again! Chill out, man(/woman?)! Picard threw Satie’s words back at her because she was being a grade-A bee-actch! But we didn’t need a speech there. Jean-Luc should have taken a leaf out of the wonderful Bill Adama’s book at that point and simply told Satie to ‘shove it up [her] ass!’ ;)

39. horatio - February 15, 2009

Bitch, bastard, a lot of ‘colourful metaphors’.No wonder you don’t like Picard.
Anyway, I take the airlock out of this ridiculous discussion, soaked with anti-intellectualism and sexism. If there ever is a bright new future, some people have to say behind. (yeah, now you can call me self-righteous again)

40. sean - February 15, 2009

#38

I find myself siding more with Horatio in this particular debate. Kirk may not have been prone to as much speech-making as Picard, but he absolutely looked down his nose at many cultures-of-the-week, and often went so far as to change their society ‘for the better’ (see: A Taste of Armageddon, The Apple, Return of the Archons, A Private Little War, The Cloud Minders), something the Picard character would have vehemently objected to.

In terms of cultural identity, it was still present in the TNG-era (Picard’s French origins are explored in more than one episode, Riker being from Alaska, Crusher’s Scottish heritage, O’Brien’s Irish ancestory, etc.). I’d say it was more subdued, which only makes sense in the face of so many alien societies and races being encountered. Right now, our ‘universe’ is Earth. So we identify ourselves in relation to that. But in the Star Trek era the Universe *is* our universe. The scale increases dramatically, so it would be likely that identifying ourselves as Human or from Earth would make more sense than identifying ourselves as Asian or being from Russia. It’s not that those identifications become meaningless, they just become secondary to our planetary origins.

In terms of TNG ‘snickering at Data’s computer-like behaviour, Barclay’s mildly dysfunctional behaviour or anything to do with the Ferengi…”, come on! How many times did Kirk or McCoy use Spock’s race/mannerisms as the butt of a joke? Then look at how bemused they all are at Bele’s description of racism on his world.

What’s there to learn from Picard saying ‘shove it up your ass’? We *did* need Picard to extrapolate and demonstrate how dangerous Satie’s thinking was. I count ‘The Drumhead’ as one of Trek’s finest moments, in part thanks to Picard’s words to Satie.

41. JoBlo - February 15, 2009

He’s actually my least favorite Star Trek guy ever.

A couple of years ago I picked up a book in the sci-fi section of someone’s immense personal library and it was written by Levar Burton. It was about a future race war sparked by the death of the first black president and was absolutely PROFOUNDLY racist.

Apparently, in the book, a bunch of people died on both sides, but mostly the blacks killed a bunch of whites, took a bunch of land and finally felt equal by the end.

I was disgusted. I was disgusted by the concept of the book. And I was disgusted by what that said about his character, and him as a racist.

42. Christine - February 15, 2009

Why is everyone blowing this out of proportion?

LeVar’s opinions are just what they are – opinions. There’s no need to defend what he said, or to put him down for what he said… This has turned into a topic not about Star Trek or anything related, but a huge political… affair!

Seriously, guys, is all this bickering necessary? Maybe you should set up a forum elsewhere to argue.

I seriously do not mean to offend anyone, I’m just thinking in the best interests of the site.

43. Green-Blooded-Bastard - February 15, 2009

It never fails to amaze me how many people here deify Roddenberry without ever having met the man. Some people have such preconceived notions of who the man was based upon the nature of his show.

It’s cool to defend your heroes, but not at the expense of another man’s character. Burton was simply making an observation in regards to what he thought as a young man, and how his view changed once he met the man. Nothing more. Nowhere does he say he didn’t like the guy. It sounds to me more like he let himself down with his own preconceived notions.

41. JoBlo
As far as Burton being a racist goes, if you’re going to call the man a racist, don’t base it off a piece of science fiction he wrote that you apparently didn’t even read if you have to describe the book as “apparently” in regards to it’s content. It’s ignorant. Go meet the man and get to know him, and then character assassinate him. That or read the book and write an honest review.

44. Nathan - February 15, 2009

Gee whiz, guys… you’d think Gene Roddenberry was your patron saint or something. Mr. Burton’s comments were not even remotely libelous, insulting, or anything else that should raise the dander of Trekkies.

Personally, I agree pretty much entirely with the sentiments expressed by Mr. Burton…in a way, I went through kind of the same thing in discovering Gene Roddenberry’s faults, though he was never really that much of a hero to me to begin with. To be honest, my opinion of him right now is fairly low–but he did make a darn fine television show, and for that alone, he has my respect. Everything else beyond that is secondary…

45. GaryP - February 15, 2009

There WAS an apparent feud going on between Levar Burton and Wil Wheaton as Levar stated above. I read about it in People Magazine a few months back. People Magazine actually retracted that article this month as they discovered it wasn’t really a feud at all. It was actually Sarek of Vulcan unwillingly projecting Bendii syndrome onto the both of them.

I’m a dork

46. JoBlo - February 15, 2009

#43.

I meant “apparently,” in context with what the future would hold should we ever have a black president and that application to the book.

And it wasn’t the story alone that I deemed racist, it was the authors note, or foreword, that talked about how none of the TV heroes growing up looked like him so in writing his own book the heroes would be people he identified with. Which is fine by me, so long as the heroes aren’t heroes for killing white people. Hearing this, coupled with some of the other racial crap that he’s been involved in leads me to brand him a racist and I simply don’t see how I could ever be a fan of the guy, let alone want to get to know him.

Don’t call people ignorant because you don’t understand the point they’re making or don’t agree with them. We’re all entitled to our pet-peeves prejudice and annoyances, including Levar Burton. All I’m saying is that I cannot reconcile the two perspectives, his and mine.

47. Dr. X - February 15, 2009

Personally, I loved LeVar Burton on Reading Rainbow, and am only just now getting into TNG.

Oh, comment wars, how you entertain me. People getting mad at each other over the internet makes my day that much better.

48. Dom - February 15, 2009

39. horatio: ‘ Bitch, bastard, a lot of ‘colourful metaphors’.’

Yeah, well we have a rich language and it’s fun to fling around metaphors!

‘No wonder you don’t like Picard.’

Actually, I like Jean-Luc a lot and I like Patrick Stewart’s portrayal of him. I just don’t think the character always got the writing he deserved. The Inner Light remains one of my absolute favourite Picard stories and one of my absolute favourite TNG episodes. But Jean-Luc didn’t need to spout homilies. It was lazy writing IMO to get jean-Luc to start spouting the PC aganda of the week. Picard is the sort of guy I would love to seek wise counsel from, even though I wouldn’t necessarily agree with him!

‘Anyway, I take the airlock out of this ridiculous discussion,’

I was quite enjoying it!

‘soaked with anti-intellectualism and sexism.’

Um . . . where exactly? Please elaborate! FYI, people who start wagging fingers and citing racism, sexism and so on are usually just afraid of the discussion! And I didn’t call you self-righteous! :)

‘If there ever is a bright new future, some people have to say behind. (yeah, now you can call me self-righteous again)’

I refer you to Bill Adama’s earlier remark! ;)

40. sean: ‘I find myself siding more with Horatio in this particular debate.’

Fair enough! There’s room for all opinions here even for a ‘sexist, anti-intellectual’ prone to ‘ridiculous discussion’ like me!

Kirk may not have been prone to as much speech-making as Picard, but he absolutely looked down his nose at many cultures-of-the-week, and often went so far as to change their society ‘for the better’ (see: A Taste of Armageddon, The Apple, Return of the Archons, A Private Little War, The Cloud Minders), something the Picard character would have vehemently objected to.

Yeah, but generally Kirk changed these cultures for the better! Are you telling me that a society that frog-marches its citizens to disintegration booths at the say-so of a computer is a good thing? In the, the citizens of Gamma Trianguli are controlled by a machine. In A Private Little War, Kirk takes the lesser of two evils and arms Tyree, giving him a fighting chance even if the outcome is distasteful! And in The Cloud Minders Kirk shakes up an unfair society In The Paradise Syndrome, he stops a bunch of intelligent people from becoming a bunch of stoner’s!

‘ In terms of cultural identity, it was still present in the TNG-era (Picard’s French origins are explored in more than one episode’

Yeah in a French vineyard somewhere in California with his English-accented brother, wife and nephew! ;) The only genuinely French-seeming Picard we ever saw was Jean-Luc’s mother!

‘Right now, our ‘universe’ is Earth. . . It’s not that those identifications become meaningless, they just become secondary to our planetary origins.’

You see, I disagree. I’m from the Westcountry in England. I’m slightly accented and I know who Gus Honeybun is! I’m English, but equally the English, Scots, Welsh, Cornish and Irish have very distinct identities. Given the multicultural society we now live in, both our native cultures and the cultures of the people who have moved here have become more pronounced if anything!

‘In terms of TNG ’snickering at Data’s computer-like behaviour, Barclay’s mildly dysfunctional behaviour or anything to do with the Ferengi…”, come on! How many times did Kirk or McCoy use Spock’s race/mannerisms as the butt of a joke?’

Well, have you never come across a cultural quirk that you’ve found funny! If we can’t laugh at ourselves and each other, we might as well curl up and die!

‘Then look at how bemused they all are at Bele’s description of racism on his world.’

I think they were probably more bemused by his horrible make-up!

‘What’s there to learn from Picard saying ’shove it up your ass’?’

That the trial is a self-righteous charade and doesn’t deserve anything more than contempt!

‘We *did* need Picard to extrapolate and demonstrate how dangerous Satie’s thinking was.’

I think her behaviour spoke quite well for itself. She hanged herself with her words.

‘I count ‘The Drumhead’ as one of Trek’s finest moments, in part thanks to Picard’s words to Satie.’

I count Bill Adama’s ‘trial’ as one of television’s finest moments!

49. Swollen Ballz - February 15, 2009

Aye Carumba!! I dont know what to say considering the extreme point of views from my colleagues here.

All the best!

50. Dom - February 15, 2009

Ah! It’s all fun! It’s not worth getting het up on a website about a TV show!

51. thorsten - February 15, 2009

@50…

getting het up?
I like you slight accent, Dom!

52. sean - February 15, 2009

#48

“Yeah, but generally Kirk changed these cultures for the better! Are you telling me that a society that frog-marches its citizens to disintegration booths at the say-so of a computer is a good thing? In the, the citizens of Gamma Trianguli are controlled by a machine. In A Private Little War, Kirk takes the lesser of two evils and arms Tyree, giving him a fighting chance even if the outcome is distasteful! And in The Cloud Minders Kirk shakes up an unfair society In The Paradise Syndrome, he stops a bunch of intelligent people from becoming a bunch of stoner’s!”

He changed them for the better, MAYBE. Since we never revisited any of those worlds, it’s hard to say. See, this is the issue I always had with TOS and TNG (it was mostly rectified in DS9, then abandoned again for VOY). They visit, they cause *massive* societal change, and then they trot off while patting themselves on the back for being such good people, all while avoiding any and all consequences of their actions. Even Spock took some issue with Kirk over his destruction of Vaal, and at least Kirk did acknowledge exactly what he was doing to Tyree’s people. But the entire point behind the Prime Directive was that we should not be making these decisions for other people, especially for worlds that did not have the experience or the technical expertise that our intrepid explorers possessed.

“You see, I disagree. I’m from the Westcountry in England. I’m slightly accented and I know who Gus Honeybun is! I’m English, but equally the English, Scots, Welsh, Cornish and Irish have very distinct identities. Given the multicultural society we now live in, both our native cultures and the cultures of the people who have moved here have become more pronounced if anything!”

Right, but again, you live in the here and now. You don’t live 400 years in the future after space travel and the discovery of extraterrestrial spacefaring civilizations has shaken up the status quo. What I’m saying is it isn’t totally unreasonable that as our worldview changes and becomes more complex, we would begin to identify ourselves in a different manner.

“Well, have you never come across a cultural quirk that you’ve found funny! If we can’t laugh at ourselves and each other, we might as well curl up and die!”

Exactly! And that’s why a little laughter at Data or Barclay’s expense is no more offensive.

“I think they were probably more bemused by his horrible make-up!”

Yes, but was it any worse than the flying vomit or Klingons who got into the shoe polish? ;)

“That the trial is a self-righteous charade and doesn’t deserve anything more than contempt!”

I tend to agree, though sadly *real* history has shown us that even more contemptible characters have gotten away with even worse!

“I count Bill Adama’s ‘trial’ as one of television’s finest moments!”

100% agreed. Though I think it was beat out by the satisfaction I felt at seeing Tom Zarek and Felix Gaeta on the receiving end of a Colonial rifle!!

53. Dom - February 15, 2009

52. sean: ’100% agreed. Though I think it was beat out by the satisfaction I felt at seeing Tom Zarek and Felix Gaeta on the receiving end of a Colonial rifle!!’

Too right! :) And Richard Hatch still insists Zarek is misunderstood!!!

54. Canon Schmanon - February 15, 2009

I’d like to apologize to LeVar Burton for the low level of maturity being exhibited in this “discussion.” It is the reason I rarely involve myself on this web site. It is also the reason that so many people view Star Trek fans as social pariahs.

Please, folks, for God’s sake, show some class. You embarrass me.

55. JoBlo - February 15, 2009

Having participated a little in this forum I actually have to agree with “Canon Schmanon,” and am somewhat disappointed in myself for having participated. I regret the thought that someway somehow some of this might get back to Levar Burton. I’m not a fan, but I don’t mind him. And I regret having brought up the race thing when near as I can see, he didn’t. He has in the past though, and that’s what I had in my head for why I’m not a fan.

So, sorry pal, sorry self, and sorry everyone here.

And why is it that Trekkies are the most angry and rabid group of nerds in the world, a lot of people on any Trek forum are like the social enigmas in high school that everyone felt bad for because he didn’t have any friends because he was so weird, so when they tried to talk to him, to bond to make him feel better about being socially retarded, rather than just talking to you, he barked, and bit your head off instead. Yeah, that’s what a lot of you remind me of.

56. Dom - February 15, 2009

54. Canon Schmanon

Dude, remarks like that don’t help that image either! Pot . . . kettle . . . black? ;)

57. Anthony Pascale - February 15, 2009

some people, especially hitch, are going too far and getting too worked up and certainly taking things out of context.

JoBlo, warning for flaming for calling LVB a racist…uncalled for and unwarranted

Hitch dragging racism into your tirade went from over the line to way over the line…FINAL (as in next time = permaban) warning, comments to http://trekmovie.com/about/feedback

58. Canon Schmanon - February 15, 2009

56. Dom – Sorry, but I AM embarrassed. And the behavior exhibited here IS what often gives Trek fans a bad rep. I don’t believe I’m mirroring that behavior by pointing it out. Sometimes people have to be called out on the carpet.

Worry not, however, because I’m out of here. And I promise not to show up too often.

59. Dom - February 15, 2009

JoBlo: ‘And why is it that Trekkies are the most angry and rabid group of nerds in the world’

Believe me, Trekkies are pussycats compared with Doctor Who fans! If you can survive the old Outpost Gallifrey forum, you can survive anything!!! ;)

Peace and love guys!

60. thorsten - February 15, 2009

…59

They don’t even allow free web-based email addresses over at the Gallifrey… Tough crowd.

61. CMX54 - February 15, 2009

There are no heroes except the ones we create in our own minds. :)

I like LeVar Burton very much, but it is his own fault that he became disillusioned about Gene Roddenberry, not Gene’s. Put someone on a pedestal, and when you discover that *just like the rest of us* they too have feet of clay, you’re in for a big disappointment. The key is to not have impossibly high expectations of *any* person, as it would seem that he did of the Bird. Not judging either one of them at all, just stating facts.

A lesson learned the hard way, in the Twilight Z…er, Neutral Zone. ;)

62. THE GOVERNATOR - February 15, 2009

my my, aren’t we a little hot-headed tonight?

63. JoBlo - February 15, 2009

Out of curiousity Mr. Pasquale, and I ask this genuinely, I’m not playing gotcha:

I called him a racist based on previous experience which had nothing to do with this thread admittedly and regrettably, which I already apologized for.

But for future notice, if he had opened the door in this thread to race and arguable racism, would calling him a racist have been acceptable since he opened the door, or is that taboo no matter what?

64. T.U.M. - February 15, 2009

“Taut” thriller, not “taught” thriller.

65. Victor Hugo - February 15, 2009

30:
” religion among humans in TNG and the virtual eradication of people’s cultures in the show in order to create a rather robotic underplayed, passionless, self-righteous version of human beings made the show a real letdown for me!”

The problem with people´s cultures is that they frequently involve name of songs, movies, products, companies etc, all of them involves copyrights. You can´t write about anything without asking permission or asking authorization without hordes of zombie flesh eating Lawyers hunting you down (unless you´re writing South Park), that´s why they mention ancient poets, classical musicians, and former presidents so much in so many movies, they´re all royalty free.

66. Charlie - February 15, 2009

He shoulda had KUNTA spelled out in Klingon! Woulda covered BOTH bases! HAHAHAHA

67. Swollen Ballz - February 15, 2009

Fascinating!

68. Anthony Pascale - February 15, 2009

T.U.M.
thanks

are you volunteering to transcribe our future interviews?

69. Commodore Lurker - February 15, 2009

Decloaking . . .

LeVar and I were born in the same hospital a year an a half apart. Probability dictates that the same Doctor smacked us on the ass.

I’m very proud of everything my military brat brother has achieved in his career.

Another great interview Anthony; keep’em coming. }:-D>

Recloaking.

70. I am Kurok! - February 16, 2009

I gotta see ‘reach for me,’ Lacey Chabert is an absolute babe!!

71. T.U.M. - February 16, 2009

#68 I’d be happy to!

Sorry for the kvetch, AP. I’m a proofreader IRL, and sometimes it’s hard to turn it off during leisure reading.

72. DEMODE - February 16, 2009

I keep hearing FRAKES and BURTON constantly saying in interviews that they want to do another TNG film. These guys have mad talent as directors. Why don’t they push to get some Direct to DVD movies made? Frakes could direct one, and Burton could direct the second. If they keep it “in the family”, it would probably help in getting Stewart to return as Picard.

73. Sarpok - February 18, 2009

If you remember the first original 2 Star Trek pilots, the women wore slacks. This is on film. Also the exec officer was a woman. NBC made him drop Number One, and he went along with it because America was not ready. Audiences liked the actress, and hated the character.
This is what Gene Roddenberry wanted originally for Star Trek.

Nichelle Nichols and Grace Lee Whitney both take credit for talking Gene or NBC into the mini skirts, or at least that what I remember.

Also according to “The Making of Star Trek” Gene wanted the crew of the Enterprise to be 50% men, 50% women. NBC insisted on 2/3 men and 1/3 women to avoid the perception of fooling around in space.

74. Cygnus-X1 - February 20, 2009

I don’t like tattoos, but I have to admit that his is pretty cool.

75. Paul - April 22, 2009

look indiana came back last year so picard can come back

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