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Koenig: Straczynski Negotiating To Bring Back Babylon 5 + Walter Compares Bester To Chekov [UPDATED] August 17, 2011

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Appearing at the Las Vegas Star Trek convention over the weekend, Star Trek’s Walter Koenig broke some news for another franchise: Babylon 5. Koenig says that B5 creator J. Michael Straczynski is currently in negotiations to develop more Babylon 5. Walter also compared working on B5 to Star Trek, details below. [UPDATE: Straczynski denial]

 

UPDATE: JMS Denial

After TrekMovie.com reported on Koenig’s comments about Babylon 5, J. Michael Straczynski took to Twitter to respond, saying:

@straczynski: Walter misspoke: I am not in negotiations with WB to develop more Babylon 5

 

original article

Koenig: Babylon 5 May Be Coming Back

Speaking at the Star Trek convention in Las Vegas on Friday, Walter Koenig, who played the Psi Cop Alfred Bester on Babylon 5, said that just last week he had dinner with B5 creator J. Michael Straczynski. And according to Koenig there may be hope for the future of the Babylon 5 franchise. The actor said:

He told me that he is in negations to re-acquire the rights to Babylon 5 and it looks pretty good. Now what that portends I am not entirely sure. It could be a new series or it could be a feature film, but he was quite animated about it. He seemed very excited and Warner Brothers is dealing with him in good faith. So you might see another Babylon 5 in the not too distant future.


Walter Koenig at Star Trek Las Vegas Con

Since Babylon 5 went off the air in 1998 Straczynski has been involved in a few short-lived B5 spin-off projects, the most recent of which was the direct-to-DVD "Babylon 5: The Lost Tales" in 2007. In 2008 Straczynski said there would be no more "Lost Tales" releases, but he would return to B5 for a feature film. Since that time Straczynski has been very busy writing comics, graphic novels and a number of feature films, including the story for this year’s Thor and adapting the Max Brooks novel for the currently filming World War Z.

Koenig also talked about how much he enjoyed playing the character of Bester on Babylon 5.

I had a great time doing it. It was just terrific…I loved performing the character and investigating the character and discovering new things about him with each script.

Bester was a lot more fun [compared to Chekov on Star Trek]. It was more dimensional and it was more complex. He was always pivotal to the story. It was a challenge. I felt more creative doing the role. Bester was a more substantial character. Of course I hasten to add that I am enormously grateful for the opportunity [on Star Trek] and I will say it again and again.


Walter Koenig as Bester on "Babylon 5"

More from Vegas coming up

TrekMovie will have more from Koenig and all the vents at Las Vegas Star Trek con coming up

Comments

1. LukasKetner - August 17, 2011

Sounds great, I’d be excited for a new B5 series!

2. crazydaystrom - August 17, 2011

A quality continuation of the B5 story would be great. When Straczynski delivers, he really delivers! I’d more been hoping over the years he’d get his RISING STARS on screen, preferably a quality mini-series. One day.

3. Father Robert Lyons - August 17, 2011

While I love B5, I would really like to see Straczynski finish the Forbidden Planet remake his name is attached to first. I love the original, and I see great potential in a remake, if done well. Some of the story ideas, including a trilogy, sound outstanding.

I’ll take more *quality* B5… but honestly, I don’t know what more can be done in that universe, and I certainly DON’T want a reboot of it.

4. Darrell - August 17, 2011

Chekov was designed in the mid 60s to be a supporting role, not a main character, so it only makes sense that Bester would be a deeper & more interesting character to play.

5. RoamingMutt - August 17, 2011

I hope so. The graphics were pretty poor even for the 90s but the story, battles and music were all amazing. And Bester was one of those villains you loved to hate.

6. Elvis Shatner - August 17, 2011

Be it B5 or maybe bringing back Crusade, if JMS can swing it and get full creative control with no more meddling, I’m in! TCB Joe!

7. Aurore - August 17, 2011

Babylon 5 , amazing series…
And , Alfred Bester was a villain I loved to “hate” .

8. Jeyl - August 17, 2011

Not that excited. His run with Wonder Woman pretty much killed my interest.

9. Aurore - August 17, 2011

“… amazing. And Bester was one of those villains you loved to hate.”

Hey! I already said that!!!

:)

10. FlyingWok - August 17, 2011

Yes! I hope JMS will be able to bring back some B5. I only discovered B5 just over a year ago on Netflix and fell in love with it. A wonderful 5 year story arc and some great world building with different cultures and political conflicts. Not to mention also having some nifty space battles. :)

I really liked Koenig’s portrayal of Bester on B5, definitely a fascinating person with a lot of subtext that came through in his performances. It was a joy seeing Koenig playing against type, and he really was able to pull off that slimy, smiley, stab you in the back character that Bester was. He reminded me a bit of Weyoun in that respect.

If JMS gets B5 back, I hope Bester shows up in some capacity. That quiet antagonism between him and the B5 crew was always amusing to watch.

11. Tallguy - August 17, 2011

Warner BOTHERS?

Last I heard JMS refused to ever re-cast the B5 characters so I’m curious where he would go with it.

12. Matthew M - August 17, 2011

I am cautiously optimistic. JMS says a lot of things. I remember when he talked about a spin off series that would be about the Rangers (Anlashok) but when “CRUSADE” arrived it wasn’t about the Rangers at all. I liked Crusade for what it was but I would have preferred the original idea. Then he made that awful “LEGEND OF THE RANGERS” as a pilot for a new series on SCIFI but not only was it bad, he got screwed over by SCIFI and that’s about the time the SCIFI CHANNEL started going down hill. Next up, Babylon 5 meets Megacrocosharktopus!

I wish him well though. If he has his head on straight this time around maybe something good will come out of it.

P.S. ‘Lost Tales’ was a good idea but he got no support financially. I liked the 2 episodes on it.

13. Jan - August 17, 2011

I’m pretty sure that this refers to the project that JMS was in negotiations for pertaining to a new distrbution system that WB was trying to coordinate. That new system failed to materialize and so did the B5 (and other shows) project.

14. I'm Dead Jim - August 17, 2011

What I liked most about Babylon 5 were some of the character/actor interactions, like between Londo and G’Kar. The chemistry was wonderful even when the scripts were weak. Maybe that’s why some of the JMS’s projects didn’t match up, lack of chemistry. Makes me wish Andreas Katsulas was still around.

15. Buzz Cagney - August 17, 2011

More B5? Oh yes please! I love that show.
And i’ll repeat what i’ve said before about Walter’s performance in it- quite superb. Menacing at time’s, vulnerable at others. Quite excellent acting from Mr K.

16. TrekMadeMeWonder - August 17, 2011

More B5! YES! More “realistic” science fiction on TV is preferred an appreciated.

Way to go, Michael!

17. Steve - August 17, 2011

Koenig was great as Bester, and showed that he really had the acting chops we hadn’t seen from some other TOS stars…

But really mixed feelings about B5, which I consider the biggest flame-out in scifi tv history. The first few seasons were just great, some of the best scifi ever on TV. But then JMS got all paranoid about not getting his final season, and ended up crunching everything into season 4, and basically ruined it. Season 5 then became a tacked-on wasteland, although I do seem to remember JMS trying to tell everyone that he’d planned it that way all along, which no one believed.

And then those movies plus Crusades… ugh. By then, the memories of the great first 3 seasons were just gone.

18. Lord Garth, Formerly of Izar - August 17, 2011

B5 was by far the best Trek series of the 90′s

Maybe the best written continuing saga SciFi series ever

19. C Mosenko - August 17, 2011

B 5 is one if my all time favorites, the writing was excellent. I liked the way the story line built up. And if you watch it over again you pick things up you missed the first time, I really liked that part of it. The draw back for people who have never seen it is you have to start at the beginning. If you catch a random episode you will have no idea what is going on. People who spend the time to see the whole thing are rewarded for the most part.
If Crusade was given a chance I think it would have been good too. Legend of the Rangers was ok up until they had to use the ships weapons. That was the most rediculous idea. I admit it’s been a while since I seen that one, but the ships weapons is what I remember most.
Most of the movies were good. I don’t know if bringing B 5 back is a good idea. Sometimes leaving us wanting more is the best way to leave it. By the time people say enough, it might be ruined. Pick a new aspect of the B 5 universe. Bester was always a fun cherecter.
Some other sci fi shows to remember: Firefly, and Space Above and Beyond.

20. Gary Makin - August 17, 2011

So much for B5 not being a franchise.

JMS is a one-hit wonder.

21. C Mosenko - August 17, 2011

Sorry about my bad typing up there.

22. Frank - August 17, 2011

Nice to see all the B5 love on this board … I too became a mega-fan of B5 and of all things JMS when I bought the whole series on DVD a few years back. The whole 5-year story arc riveted my entire family night after night for almost a year. Haven’t seen the follow-up TV movies or Crusade yet, but soon, I hope.

Anything new in the B5 universe would be terrific, whether a new series or a feature film – as long as JMS has full creative control. He’s been brilliant to insist on that.

I don’t know how many readers here know that, in the wake of the cancellation of Enterprise, there was some speculation at Paramount about where to go next – and JMS was actually one of the “bidders” to return TOS to the TV screen in a reboot series. What, I wonder, would he have done with the Star Trek universe? Might have been astounding.

23. Thomas Jensen - August 17, 2011

I found all the B5 versions to be excellent, with the exception of that ‘Rangers’ deal. I’d love to see him do it again and complete that “Forbidden Planet” script, too.

24. Gary Makin - August 17, 2011

Remember when JMS said DS9 stole his ideas? B5 was already stealing from TOS and TNG.

Babylon 4 disappearing in a time warp and becoming embroiled in a war? See TNG’s Yesterday’s Enterprise and the Enterprise C.

The Shadows were clearly Borg-like. A destructive, mysterious force at first, revealed to be a cybernetic, insect-like race with ships that use cutting beams.

The entire arc of B5 basically amounts to TOS’s Who Mourns for Adonais.

A Call to Arms: Sheridan steals the Excalibur from space dock (Star Trek lll) to fight a space cloud-machine thingy heading for Earth (Star Trek: TMP).

And there are other examples.

25. MJ - August 17, 2011

B5 was an awesome show, but all the spinoffs and tv movies that followed it have pretty much sucked. I would rather they go back to square one and reboot B5 and start a new series.

26. Porthos - August 17, 2011

Gary Makin:

Jeffrey Sinclar was Chosen One because he was Valen.

Sisko was chosen One, because he was a Sinclair clone.

+ Frontier spacestation, wormhole, temperament first officer, detective security chief, religious allience, starship and swordsman in the third season

I like DS9 characters too, but the B5 has a story and a finale too.

Sorry for my English, i’m from the Gamma Quadrant.

27. Brett Campbell - August 17, 2011

Do you think they would rehire Harlan Ellison as a creative consultant, or would that quadruple the budget?

28. Browncoat1984 - August 17, 2011

I would love to see a TOS-Remastered style HD remastering of B5. One of the problems with B5 is that the live action shots were done in widescreen, while the special effects were NOT and this is very evident, even on the DVD’s! I would love to see him go back and to a blu ray HD remastering with Battlestar Galactica quality effects. If he did that I think that it would hold up well against modern favorites like BSG and Lost! Add more special features to the sets, maybe even do commentaries on EVERY episode like Stargate does!

Also, it should be a complete release including ALL the TV movies from Thirdspace through to The Lost Tales and Crusade!

29. Greenberg - August 17, 2011

#27,
Harlan Ellison would sue them for hiring Harlan Ellison.

30. Father Robert Lyons - August 17, 2011

#24 – Oh, but Star Trek stole its ideas from Forbidden Planet. Fitting that JMS is attached to that reboot/remake project. He gets to rewrite what Trek was based on, which means that, with quantum flux theory, he formed Star Trek.

Or, to put it another way, past about 1950, most science fiction, even good science fiction, resues concepts from elsewhere… and often blatantly.

Rob+

31. Vultan - August 17, 2011

And Forbidden Planet “stole” from Shakespeare!
It’s pretty much The Tempest… in space.

32. Michael Hall - August 17, 2011

@ 22 Frank–

JMS’ proposed treatment for a TOS reboot was made available on the web some time before the release of the 2009 movie. I’m guessing you can find it with a minimal amount of googling. Don’t expect too much, though, or you’re bound to be as disappointed as I was. It’s not so much a detailed description of what JMS would do with Trek himself as a summary of what he thought worked about the original show, what was missing from the spinoffs, and what updated concepts producing a new take on such a cultural icon might entail. It’s pretty thin gruel for the most part; and when he does get into specifics (e.g. a secret mission behind the five-year mission of exploration, somewhat reminiscent of Gary Cole’s secret orders in Crusade) I thought his ideas were pretty much at odds with anything Gene Roddenberry would have done or approved of.

(But by all means, bring on some more B5, even if the first segment of The Lost Tales had me wondering if Straczynski was smoking crack when he wrote it.)

@ 27, good one :-)

33. CmdrR - August 17, 2011

I’ll certainly give any B5 a look. Of course, so far it’s been like trying to re-catch lighting in two million, five hundred thousand tons of spinning metal . . . all alone in the night.

Good luck!!!

34. Tom - August 17, 2011

I say bring back DS9, that’d be 10 times better than B5.

35. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - August 17, 2011

I am a Big time B5 fan. Only Star Trek beats out B5 to me. I would love to see another B5 series or a Feature Movie. Get Bruce Boxlitner and Claudia Christian to reprise there roles. B5 was the first series to use Cgi in the 90s and now everyone uses it. So B5 broke a lot of ground. Love keonig as bester.
My all time fave line from bester .
Ivonava. So how did you find out about these weapons.
Bester. I’m a Telepath. Work it out.

36. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - August 17, 2011

What they can do for B5 is have a series with Phalon back 1,000 years ago during the Shadow war and how Cmdr Sinclair as Phalon saves the Minbar and defeted the Shadows.

37. MikeTen - August 17, 2011

How would he explain away G’Kar and Dr. Franklin not being around if he doesn’t recast the roles.
There is no way Andreas Katsulas can be replaced.

38. Lord Garth, Formerly of Izar - August 17, 2011

It would be a reboot ala Trek kids

39. April Hebert - August 17, 2011

Ooooo…B5 was a big favorite of mine back in the day. Mostly because I have huge crush on Bruce Boxleitner, though…after “Get the hell out of my galaxy!!! (best sci-fi line EVER, btw),” what’s left? I only ask because nothing after the original series has impressed me. But after that, what could? Hmmm?

40. max - August 17, 2011

B5 doesn’t hold up very well. Sorry if this hurts feelings, different strokes, but to me it doesn’t stand the test of time. JMS’s Thor run was mostly good though.

41. mr. NUspock - August 17, 2011

no g´kar,
no dr. franklin,
no. zack…..

But, I also hope for more b5…….as Londo would say ´´ ohh yes´´…….

´´mr. garabaldi ´´………………Just the way he could say, said it all……..

´´mr. morden´´…..

but, let´s see………

42. Phil - August 17, 2011

Loved B5, but considering how many of the performers have passed or aged considerably, not sure that new content or a re-boot is advisable. JMS re-acquiring control may mean nothing more then that, he’s re-aquired control. WK really was speculating about everything else.

43. Corinthian7 - August 17, 2011

I’m just doing a full rematch of B5 (I’m currently on the second episode of Crusade) and I’m amazed how well it has stood up to the test of time. Probably the greatest TV show ever!

44. Rocket Scientist - August 17, 2011

I’m re-watching the whole series, and am just about done with Season 3. What a wonderful story. What dreadful dialogue!

45. JW - August 17, 2011

“Last I heard JMS refused to ever re-cast the B5 characters”

here’s a pic from last weekend:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7931956&l=e20912a54a&id=56489788580&_fb_noscript=1

there’s at least 1 character that needs no re-casting (;

46. I'm Dead Jim - August 17, 2011

@44 Agreed! Loved the story! Winced at a lot of the dialogue!

47. TheKeeper - August 17, 2011

Babylon 5 was a wonderful series and eagerly watched each week more then I was interested in the Star Trek spin offs, which frankly had become bland and predicable.
A new retooled rebooted series or transformation on to the big screen might prove interesting if done correctly and carefully.
I could see it’s epic story arch working in a 3 motion picture deal.
A recast of course would be needed and hope that any B5 fans realize that would have to be done.
I know Star Trek fans throw fits over such ideas, but JJ proved it can be done when working with such larger then life characters and epic backgrounds.

48. Khan was Framed! - August 17, 2011

Babylon 5 is to Star Trek as…

“Vicki the robot” from Small Wonder is to Data.

Enough said-

49. Ens Mike of the Terran Empire - August 17, 2011

Recast Sinclare as Phalon from 1,000 years ago and show how he helped the Minbari fight off the Shadows.

50. Ens Mike of the Terran Empire - August 17, 2011

Yes. I was demoted. Long story.

51. Chadwick - August 17, 2011

Lmao, B5 was just terrible, oh man it was so pathetic, the writing, the actors and the acting, the CGFX. Whether DS9 copied B5 or vise versa, DS9 was worlds above B5.

I remember watching episodes when I was younger because there was no other decent sci fi show on in that time slot I guess. The only thing that entertained me while watching it was cutting it up, no mercy. The stories never grasped me or pulled me in. The pathetic Star Trek influence the show excreted – from uniforms to aliens, whatever bull*hit coalition they had, and even Star Trek special guests – was just god awful.

If they want to attempt a remake Battlestar style, I wouldn’t disapprove of the attempt. Ron Moore and everyone else involved did a fantastic job with the new Battlestar.

52. Robert Bernardo - August 17, 2011

B5, yeah! The best of the 1990′s sci-fi shows! Great stories, great acting, great effects, especially in seasons 2-5. I do hope JMS is successful.

53. CaptainDonovin - August 17, 2011

Ohh, I would so love something new from the B5 universe, love that series. Bester was a great character.

54. Corinthian7 - August 17, 2011

50# You were probably too young to appreciate it.

55. B5forever - August 17, 2011

2013 will be the 20th anniversary of B5. Hopefully this will become true.

56. John from Cincinnati - August 17, 2011

What a stupid show

57. scifib5st - August 17, 2011

What great news!!! JMS and B5.
Button or Zip?

Vir Cotto’s whish, “I’d like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I would look up at your lifeless eyes and wave like this.”

58. Christopher Roberts - August 17, 2011

I quite like Babylon 5. When it was originally on, I also watched TNG and DS9. It always felt like an interesting alternative. A lot like BSG was to ENT. There’s nothing wrong in liking both. Seeing actors crossover between the two was always a delight and Koenig is just one among the likes of Majel Barrett and Paul Winfield. You expect to see certain things in the Gene Roddenberry universe and every so often, take a break and see character behaving in a way they shouldn’t in his utopian vision. I was skeptical of B5 to begin with and some of the dialogue wasn’t exactly up to Star Trek standards. But the chemistry between certain cast members pulled it through. Early on it also blatantly did the kind of message stories Trek did. That changed somewhere half way through Season 1 and it became clear to me, they were geniunely trying for something more ambitious. JMS had a story arc mapped out from beginning to end, and with one major adjustment – changing Captains from Sinclair for Sheridan, it stayed true to that. By comparison, Star Trek storylines were made up on the fly and directions often came about by accident, rather than any sense of the producers saying “This is where this show had been heading from the start.”

59. Sybok - August 17, 2011

FRAKKIN’ A!

60. Jeff O'Connor - August 17, 2011

This… would be amazing.

61. Lope de Aguirre - August 17, 2011

More B5 (a TV show reboot or a feature film) would be awesome!!!

62. Miraclefan - August 17, 2011

I knew it was only a matter of time before WB would try to resurrect B5.
I’m pretty sure the only way to continue with this franchise would be to REBOOT the entire franchise.

63. Canadianknight - August 17, 2011

#50 – We must have watched different shows.

Yeah, the sets were cheap, and the CGI wasn’t great (especially the first season), but the stories, especially seasons 2-4, were intricate and very well done. It always amazed me that some little occurrence that seemed to be a throw-away at the time, came back a season or two later and was much more than it seemed.

BIg love for B5, although it won’t be the same without G’Kar or Franklin.

64. Canon Schmanon - August 17, 2011

I LOVE seasons 2-4 of B5. Seasons 1 and 5 had only a handful of watchable shows, in my opinion. Its greatest weakness were poor attempts at humor (Rebo and Zooty?) and the bad acting by many of its peripheral guest stars.

But when B5 was good, it was, in my opinion, better than Star Trek. The story arc between Lando and G’Kar was Shakespearean in tone and scope. Epic storytelling at its best, and performed by two of the best. Peter Jurasik and Andreas Katsulas were so, so superb. The evolution of G’Kar from being comic relief to a tragic, almost messianic character is such a joy to watch. Andreas overpowered all those around him, his presence was palpable.

But just as good was Jurasik’s more subtle genius. Lando was not a bombastic character, but his underplayed tragedy was brilliant. Here was a man who knew he was going to hell, and felt powerless to stop it. Beautifully written, and beautifully performed.

When it concentrated on Lando and G’Kar, and the Shadow War, B5 was riveting. But it was very uneven. Some of the subplots were good – especially those featuring Koenig as Bester. This was a great role for Walter, and I was so glad to finally see him front and center. He had a great quiet menace, yet was somehow still likable.

Reviving B5 is pretty iffy to me. I cared not at all for anything that came after season 4, including the spinoffs. The spark was gone, highlighted by the hammy acting of Peter Woodward, though it didn’t help that his character was such a cliché. And Gary Cole seemed so uninspired. The whole thing was tepid. Legend of the Rangers was the same. Lost tales blah.

Katsulas is gone. That’s a huge deficit. Richard Biggs is gone. If they could get Lando, Delenn, Lennier, Sheridan and Garibaldi back, I’d be pretty happy. Anybody else would be a bonus. But it should be about the return of a Vorlon, one who never passed over with the other First Ones. I have a great story idea for that, but I ain’t telling.

There’d certainly be room for Bester. I could fit him in easily.

But J. Mike managed to do it before. Maybe the break has inspired him. I can always hope.

65. Brett Campbell - August 17, 2011

29 – Good one. I came across a Theodore Sturgeon website where several authors such as Heinlein and Bradbury were quoted in praise of Sturgeon. Harlan Ellison was the only author who had a registered trademark after his name. I kid you not.

66. Canon Schmanon - August 17, 2011

60. Miraclefan – I totally agree. I’d love to see the story again, but without the bad parts. Just as I did with Trek, I’d completely support a reboot. But I’d feel bad for the guys who had to play Lando and G’Kar. My expectations would be VERY high. And think how much cooler the Vorlons could be! I really missed the Vorlons after they fled town so abruptly halfway through season four.

67. SerenityActual - August 17, 2011

I would love to see some new B5! There is plenty of space in the timeline for new stories, especially the much talked about, never seen Telepath War.

68. Jack - August 17, 2011

Darn, maybe I’d better watch this. I saw maybe 2 episodes from season one, when it was new, and it didn’t take.

69. Canon Schmanon - August 17, 2011

66. Jack – You can pretty much skip season 1. I’d just watch the last couple of shows. You’d be almost completely up to speed. Season 1 is watchable, just not necessary for the most part. I hate to say this, because I often liked Michael O’Hare, but aside from the time travel episode, and a couple others, it’s just not much worth watching. Seasons 2, 3 and 4 have plenty of faults, but patience will be rewarded, I believe. It has the benefit of being very unlike Star Trek, and is very political/religious. In other words, the people are more like us and less like the Federation. I liked the contrast between the series.

I don’t care what anybody says, DS9′s similarity to Bab5 is only surface deep. Those two shows were nothing alike. I’m so glad they weren’t.

70. Alisa - August 17, 2011

Oddly enough when I watched the clip, I heard a hint of Chekov’s voice. He almost slipped that in there. :-)) And I believe he was wrong about Chekov. He played a very important role in ST IV. Without him, they would not have been able to go get that Bird of Prey back home.

71. Adam C - August 17, 2011

love babylon 5 its my last best hope for sci fi lol

72. Buzz Cagney - August 17, 2011

No, no, no, Jack, ignore the advice to skip through. Thats entirely missing the point of the show. Watch it all. For sure there are some episodes that won’t add much to the over all story, but that doesn’t detract from the whole.

73. Weerd1 - August 18, 2011

I hope a new B5 movie has lots of lens flares.

74. B5Guy - August 18, 2011

This makes me so happy. I was a major fan of B5. Yes, there were episodes that didn’t quite “hit”, and there was a bit of corny dialog. But what a great ride! A five-year story arc and state-of-the-art FX (for the time). I remember being told about the pilot and reading JMS’s article about it in “Writer’s Digest”. It’s been great. If he can do justice to his own creation, that’s great. Otherwise, just leave us the memories.

75. James - August 18, 2011

Starfury’s – so cool even Nasa tried to create a version of them (not for combat obviously)

76. Orb of the Emissary - August 18, 2011

By the Prophets, to say B5 was BETTER than Star Trek, on a Star Trek website?? As Kai Winn would say, “This amounts to nothing more than blasphemy!”

77. Jai - August 18, 2011

Many aspects of the overall story arc of “Babylon 5″ were obviously influenced by “The Lord of the Rings” and Tolkien’s wider mythology. Wikipedia has a very detailed article about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon_5_influences#The_Lord_of_the_Rings

Even some of the same names (or very similar versions of them) were used, eg. Rangers, Z’ha’dum/Khazad-dum etc.

78. Rocket Scientist - August 18, 2011

73. Wow, there are a lot more resonances between B5 and LOTR than I thought. Some of them are very specific!

79. I'm Dead Jim - August 18, 2011

Could we perhaps get some clarification from JMS himself on Koenig’s comments? Is that possible?

80. Father Robert Lyons - August 18, 2011

72 – As much as I love Trek, and as much as I have disliked the B5 delitrus, the core of B5 is the best televised Science Fiction series in history IMO. I don’t read B5 novels (well, I tried, but they sucked), comics (never found any), or hold many of the spinoffs in high esteem (though I like the Crusade uniforms and actually liked Lumbergh… er, Cole, as CO) I cannot escape that B5 bested even my favorite Treks for consistency, engagement, and storytelling. S1-4, and the final few episodes of S5 (Sleeping in Light was the most heart-touching episode of Science Fiction television I have experienced… ever) were amazing. Yes, the whole Byron and Lochley bit were annying in S5, but the balance of the show is good.

I do understand the concers about ‘rewatchability’ of the show. The SFX, while amazing in the day, don’t stand up that well today. The designs are fine, but imagine what could be done with current technology!

We shall see what happens.

Rob+

81. Charles - August 18, 2011

When Walter starred in our Phase 2 episode “To Serve All My Days”, I was helping out with set decoration and in the sick bay scenes I folded the material at the top of the bio beds specifically to look like a triangular “Minbari” pillow.

My little shout out to B5 Bester fans!

82. Vahe - August 18, 2011

Babylon 5 is literally the best TV show ever made.

83. DS9 Forever - August 18, 2011

DS9 had better ratings than B5, so when is it coming back!

84. Red Dead Ryan - August 18, 2011

I hope “Deep Space Nine” isn’t brought back. The show had a beginning, middle and an end. The main arc was about Sisko the Emissary being the savior of Bajor. That was accomplished. I don’t know what else anybody could go with it. Not only that, but a number of the main crew went their seperate ways, including Captain Sisko, who joined the Prophets in the Celestial Temple.

DS9 is perfect the way it is.

85. I'm Dead Jim - August 18, 2011

@82 I liked B5 but you’re just saying that for shock value, right?

86. star trackie - August 18, 2011

#80 “I do understand the concers about ‘rewatchability’ of the show. The SFX, while amazing in the day, don’t stand up that well today. The designs are fine, but imagine what could be done with current technology! ”

B5 was truly an amazing ride, but I think the main issue with reatching it, isn’t the FX, but rather the serialized nature of the show. Having very few stand alone episodes make it a real pain to try to get into. That is the problem with these long story arcs. When you are along for the ride, its great and brings you back each week…after that, forget it.

I’ve never rewatched an episode of 24 for the same reason. That’s why I love the stand alones like TOS…something I can sink my teeth into for an hour now and again, and then go on about my business. Serialized television just doesn’t work for me in the long term, but it’s great while you’re into it.

87. Drake - August 18, 2011

Yes please!

88. Canon Schmanon - August 18, 2011

86. star trackie – I rewatch B5 every few years. The bad stuff sticks out more to me now, but the good stuff resonates even more.

89. Victor Hugo - August 19, 2011

82. I agree, literally “Babylon 5 is literally the best TV show ever made.”

I never cried so much in the final episode of a series as a cried in “Sleeping in Light”. It was like i was in the funeral of a friend.

90. Aurore - August 19, 2011

“82. I agree, literally ‘Babylon 5 is literally the best TV show ever made.’ ”

Yes.
So far , to me , it really is , as well .

91. Crash - August 19, 2011

B5; Probably the best TV sci-fi ever.
It would be nice to see Crusade get a parting shot.

92. Xandra - August 19, 2011

Unlikely.
What was impressive with B5 was that it was a self contained story – a beginning and an end – adding to it will just lessen it and cannot be repeated: the chemistry of the characters was as unique as the Kirk-Spock-McCoy partnership. Can’t he come up with something new. It would be nice to have something new.

93. Christopher Roberts - August 19, 2011

Checks in and sees the JMS rebuttal. Ah-well. Nice thought while it lasted.

94. Aurore - August 20, 2011

“Ah-well. Nice thought while it lasted.”

“Faith manages”…. Or so the saying goes….

95. Christopher Roberts - August 20, 2011

Actually the funny thing with B5 is, I’ve been managing with old off-air recordings of the show. Unlike all of Star Trek, I don’t own it on DVD. Slipped my mind. It’s about time I corrected that.

96. dmduncan - August 20, 2011

Never watched much B5. Was Bester an angry proctologist, or is that just NOT a good choice of headline photos?

97. Aurore - August 20, 2011

96. dmduncan – August 20, 2011

“Was Bester an angry proctologist, or is that just NOT a good choice of headline photos?”

Stop talking sh*t !

You really don’t know who you are dealing with, do you ?!
He’s a telepath ! And , a strong one at that ! You do not want to see him angry!
EVER!!!

:))

98. dmduncan - August 20, 2011

97. Aurore – August 20, 201

I stand corrected! (Almost slipped and said colorected!)

You have to admit. He looks like he’s about to give his arch nemesis, Ben Dover, the finger.

99. Someone - August 20, 2011

B5 was terrible; JMS couldn’t write his way out of a paper bag…
I’ve got two words for anyone who begs to differ:
Martin. Sheen.

100. Aurore - August 20, 2011

98. dmduncan – August 20, 2011

“You have to admit. He looks like he’s about to give his arch nemesis, Ben Dover, the finger.”

I admit nothing.
It’s more like this : “How many fingers am I holding up , Ben Dover?”……

I would say that , he looks like an interrogator, which he is , by the way.
However, I must concede that his interrogation style often seemed as pleasant as…well… you know….Or rather,no…I hope you do not . Unless….Ah, forget it….

:)

101. TheKeeper - August 20, 2011

So many series were so much better then the Star Trek spin off’s, especially TNG, clearly one can see why Robbenberry himself was ageist them all…too bad many Trekkies are locked in their own little snobbish worlds they must scream to be heard ( Dr. Who reference)
Babylon 5, Farscape, Dr. Who and Battlestar Balactica were are light years ahead in writing, originality and acting over the Trekkonian spin offs which were lame and predictable as long as they fed a small contingent of obsessive fans who think they own the franchise the mounds of technobabblish garbage that they some how convinced the studio was the way to go…well, I’m glad that’s all over with.
We have the worlds most beloved and best Star Trek characters back…Now Bring Back B5!!!

102. dmduncan - August 20, 2011

100. Aurore – August 20, 2011

“I admit nothing.”

***

No, you don’t understand. I’m wearing a black glove, and staring at your screen name with the same pose/expression as Walter in that spooky photo up there.

You HAVE to.

;-)

103. dmduncan - August 20, 2011

Well…don’t know what to make of Straczynski’s tossing of Walter under the shuttlecraft in the update.

My inclination is to believe Walter because why would he say such a thing in public knowing it was bound to be a story in places like this where it would rebound against him if he was making it up — suggesting he was faithfully relaying the dinner conversation with Straczynski?

Seems that everybody in Hollywood either has a plan to get into showbiz, or a plan to get BACK into show biz, so maybe Strac was inflating the truth a bit in that dinner?

104. Aurore - August 20, 2011

“No, you don’t understand. I’m wearing a black glove, and staring at your screen name with the same pose/expression as Walter in that spooky photo up there.”

….You say that as though it were a bad thing…. Should I be scared ? Do I HAVE to ? Really ?

“suggesting he was faithfully relaying the dinner conversation with Straczynski?”

That was my sincere impression too , for some of the exact same reasons you cited.

And so, to paraphrase an expression often seen , it seems to me , on places such as this one, I remember thinking that Michael J . Straczynski ‘s quick rebuttal must have felt like a slap in the face to the fan of Babylon 5 that Mr. Koenig appears to be .

Regarding what happens in Hollywood , I’m still waiting for that behind-the-scenes book Roberto Orci promised me , in front of everybody, on this site , a while back. No rebuttal by him , so far .

Things are looking good for me…

105. Christopher Roberts - August 21, 2011

104. I wouldn’t hold your breath. He was probably just venting. Getting a movie made, they have to serve too many masters. While Rick Berman held the ultimate responsibility for Star Trek Enterprise not going more than 4 seasons, but also in a way he didn’t… given how far their ideal series pitch has to change and adapt to what the Network wants, what the Studio wants, what the corporation behind all that want. Imagine how it might go without all those cooks around almost spoiling the broth. Typically such books are written by former producers who are a lot older in Hollywood, once they’re past the stage it might affect their careers.

106. Aurore - August 21, 2011

105. Christopher Roberts – August 21, 2011

I was joking Christopher!

“Typically such books are written by former producers who are a lot older in Hollywood, once they’re past the stage it might affect their careers.”

Yes . I noticed that , too .

107. Aurore - August 21, 2011

As far as the dinner conversation is concerned , I wonder whether Michael J Straczynski reserved to himself the privilege of making the announcement of Babylon 5 ‘s return ( if , ultimately , and , despite his rebuttal , there is any truth to what was reported ,earlier).

As the creator of the series , it would make sense to me .

108. Christopher Roberts - August 21, 2011

106. No worries. Hopefully Bob Orci thought so too! :))

Babylon 5 was great. But I can understand if nothing new comes from it. The TV movies they made were a mixed bunch and the spin-offs like Crusade and Rangers. That last Direct-to-DVD project, Lost Tales, I had a lot of hope riding on it being successful. But alas it wasn’t to be. Star Trek in prime universe should have pull enough for such a project for ENT’s Romulan War or mixed characters from the 24th Century… but with Stargate going down and BSG on shakey ground now… :(

Babylon 5 at it’s best was maybe the series itself. Maybe even just Seasons 2-4 and the finale.

109. Christopher Roberts - August 21, 2011

Does anyone know what the deal is with the Babylon 5 pilot TV movie – “The Gathering”.

I keep hearing that they went back and re-edited it, changed the music etc. But I’ve never actually seen that version. Just the original 1993 one.

110. Aurore - August 21, 2011

109. Christopher Roberts – August 21, 2011

Does anyone know what the deal is with the Babylon 5 pilot TV movie – “The Gathering”.
******

Sorry, I didn’t hear anything about that .
I have the original version of The Gathering on DVD .

Nevertheless , if such a new version did exist , taking a look at it might be interesting . (though , personally , I would be in no rush to purchase it, for now , to tell you the truth.)

111. Christopher Roberts - August 21, 2011

108. correction -

Babylon 5 at its best was maybe the series itself.

No apostrophe

its = possessive

it’s = it is

One day, I’ll stop doing that. Like mixing up pacific with specific. :-\

112. Aurore - August 21, 2011

“One day, I’ll stop doing that. Like mixing up pacific with specific. :-\”

Please don’t . It’s excellent for my ego .
Yes, I’m petty….What is your point, exactly?

:)

113. dmduncan - August 21, 2011

Twitter is a really good way to kick a friend in the nads like that. What next?

“Dinner conversation? Haven’t seen Walter in five years.”

107: “I wonder whether Michael J Straczynski reserved to himself the privilege of making the announcement of Babylon 5 ’s return ( if , ultimately , and , despite his rebuttal , there is any truth to what was reported ,earlier).”

I hope not. That would make Straczynski an even bigger jerk if instead of saying “Damn, my fault for telling Walter on the eve of a convention” he decided to try to nullify Walter’s release of info by denying it in the hopes of remanufacturing the excitement by re-releasing the news himself later to get the glory he felt Walter deprived him of.

The double-kidding doesn’t work. It makes people boo and hiss.

114. Aurore - August 21, 2011

“Dinner conversation? Haven’t seen Walter in five years.”

If he weren’t joking , this is awful.

“I hope not. That would make Straczynski an even bigger jerk if instead of saying “Damn, my fault for telling Walter on the eve of a convention” he decided to try to nullify Walter’s release of info by denying it in the hopes of remanufacturing the excitement by re-releasing the news himself later to get the glory he felt Walter deprived him of.”

Is it not the way Hollywood works ?

115. Aurore - August 21, 2011

114 . Aurore.

….Um….Aurore… I think dmduncan was..um… dare I say it… joking about the Twitter thing…

116. Aurore - August 21, 2011

115. Aurore – August 21, 2011

“I think dmduncan was..um… dare I say it… joking about the Twitter thing…”

Well , this IS awful !

My reading comprehension still needs improvement ! ( so does my writing , it’s a well established fact).

Christopher,you now understand , I hope , why I desperately NEED you to keep doing what you’re doing.

Thanks for your understanding

:))

117. dmduncan - August 21, 2011

115. Aurore – August 21, 2011

Yes, on behalf of dmduncan I can confirm that he was joking (about the Twitter thing). He does that far too often (if you ask me).

118. Aurore - August 22, 2011

“He does that far too often (if you ask me).”

Keep ‘em coming.
Like I said ; my reading comprehension still needs improvement .

:)

119. Aurore - August 22, 2011

109. Christopher Roberts – August 21, 2011

Christopher,

I have a Babylon 5 , 5 disc collector’s set (including The Gathering).
I bought it years ago . It includes special features, soundtracks remastered in Dolby Digital 5.I . And “all new introductions to and commentaries on each movie” etc…

That is probably what you were referring to , earlier.
Unless some other new version I haven’t heard of was released more recently.

120. Christopher Roberts - August 22, 2011

119. I think it must be a difference between Region 1(US) and Region 2(UK). Ours is just the original cut of Gathering, with Stuart Copeland score. I was reading about this one online and how they re-edited in 1998, got the same guy in who did the music to the series. There was a scene that didn’t ring a bell with me. The Vorlon Ambassador calling Sinclair, Valen. Well, in the version I’ve always seen, he doesn’t even speak. I guess I need to import the DVD from the States.

121. Aurore - August 22, 2011

“I guess I need to import the DVD from the States.”

That’s what I had to do myself ( or was it Canada ? I’m not sure anymore ).
In any case , I had to import some of my Babylon 5 DVD box sets , as far as I can tell , they would not have been available to me , otherwise .

122. dmduncan - August 22, 2011

118. Aurore – August 22, 2011

“Like I said ; my reading comprehension still needs improvement .”

Are you French, Aurore?

123. Aurore - August 22, 2011

“Are you French, Aurore?”

Yes .

But , don’t tell anyone ; it will be our little secret .

124. dmduncan - August 22, 2011

123. Aurore – August 22, 2011

“Are you French, Aurore?”

Yes .

But , don’t tell anyone ; it will be our little secret .

***

The cat is out of the bag, mademoiselle!

Why, it wasn’t so long ago that at the behest of Bill O’Reilly over France’s lack of support for the American Iraq invasion, I was boycotting all things French: French Fries, menage a tois, Pepe Le Pew.

What an ugly sad time in my history. But that’s all water under the bridge now, and I’m proud to say that I am once again one of the most frequent consumers of dijon mustard in my area.

(Okay Aurore, this has been a test of your reading comprehension. So if everything went according to plan you should be laughing hysterically right now.)

125. ictus75 - August 22, 2011

Both B5 & DS9 had completed story arcs. To try to revive either one would be silly. I’d rather see JMS come up with something new. I loved both B5 & DS9, but let them remain as they are.

You can’t go back…

126. Aurore - August 23, 2011

“Okay Aurore, this has been a test of your reading comprehension. So if everything went according to plan you should be laughing hysterically right now.)”

I could have been laughing hysterically , right now .
However , the part about you boycotting all things French left me heartbroken.
Devastated. It felt like a slap in the face . Like a punch in the gut of our so called French-American friendship. It flew in the face of what I , personally , had always considered as a special relationship. A treasured relationship. A sacred relationship.

You , sir , are no true friend of my country. Never were. Never will be .

Oh, and another thing…. Dijon mustard, huh?!
HOW ELITIST OF YOU !!!!

:)

127. Aurore - August 23, 2011

Did I successfully pass your test?

No ?!

Well , what did you expect ?! Progress overnight ?!
These things take time!

:))

128. dmduncan - August 23, 2011

127. Aurore – August 23, 2011

That was excellent! I think you are coming along just fine, Aurore! ;-)

And of COURSE I am a friend of France!

Viva la France! Jean Luc Picard LIVES!

See?

How can I be an enemy of a nation that produces such wonderful things as Aaton movie cameras, the films of Luc Besson, and the staggeringly beautiful face of Sophie Marceau!

129. Aurore - August 23, 2011

“How can I be an enemy of a nation that produces such wonderful things as Aaton movie cameras, the films of Luc Besson, and the staggeringly beautiful face of Sophie Marceau!”

What?!
Absolutely NO words whatsoever on our cuisine ?!

Granted , I also like Italian, Chinese , Japanese , Thailandes , Italian , Mexican , Italian , Indian , Italian , Caribbean , Italian , African , Italian , Spanish , Italian cuisines (and so on and so forth)……..but , still……..

With friends like that , who needs enemies ?!

130. dmduncan - August 23, 2011

129. Aurore – August 23, 2011

LOL!

131. Eclectrek - August 31, 2011

When B5 was first broadcast, I was always excited when the previews showed that next week would be a “Bester” episode. You knew it was going to be a good one.

I felt much the same way when “Enterprise” would preview a “Shran” episode.

132. drkmater - September 1, 2011

B5, meh, never a fan. I did try, but it never grabbed me.

133. groutboy - September 18, 2011

I remember the good old days of B5…It took a little while for me to get into it…I was not a rabied fan like my brothers…It would be cool to see a series *reboot*,or* a where have they been* revisit ,or a spin off in the same B5 universe…My dad had a disturbing way of interrupting our B5 watching, by making fun of it , and firing off one-liners during the show…Such,”Where’s WORF???, Does he have A *BARRION PARTICLE* stuck in his eye???, Where the hell is WORF??? Though, My Dad was a serious viewer of the old X-File series, and noone could disturb that one!!!!

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