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Damon Lindelof & Zachary Quinto Respond To Star Trek Sequel Rumor Reports + Potential Weller Role Detail December 6, 2011

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Lindelof,Rumor,Spoilers,Star Trek Into Darkness , trackback

Yesterday was a big news day for the new Star Trek sequel. Today we have some follow-up reports, including Zachary Quinto and co-writer/producer Damon Lindelof’s reactions to rumors about the Star Trek villain. Check those out below, along with a new possible tidbit about the role Peter Weller will be playing.  Potential spoilers below.



Lindelof and Quinto respond to Khan reports

For the last few weeks there has been a lot of speculation of how Khan will be the villain in the Star Trek sequel. There has also been a couple of media outlets reporting this, including Vulture yesterday. This prompted Star Trek sequel co-writer/producer Damon Lindelof to take to Twitter with the following (a seeming homage to a famous Star Trek scream):

And in a newly released video (shot last week) MTV spoke to the new Spock Zachary Quinto who confirmed he hadn’t seen the script and he said he could neither "confirm nor deny" anything about Khan. Watch it:

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Regardless of the lack of confirmations, the potential Khan news has been big news across the world with some sites moving on to suggesting possible candidates for the role and even the mainstream media asking if it is time for Khan to be brought back. One thing is for sure, the Star Trek buzz machine is once again getting into gear, and the movie doesn’t come out until May 2013.

More on Peter Weller’s casting – a CEO?

Also there is some more on the casting of Peter Weller, which made big news yesterday across the web, with many new sources running with "Robocop To Star Trek" type headlines. With the Weller casting news coming on the same day as news that Benicio Del Toro dropped out of talks for the main villain, some have wondered if Weller stepped into the same role. However, indications are that Weller was tapped for that previously reported third major role (following the villain and the new female role being played by Alice Eve). There was also a quote given to EW about the role from Weller’s agent, saying:

Of course J.J. Abrams is very tight-lipped about his projects, but I do know that it’s a substantial role and that Peter is playing a C.E.O.


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1. Spock's Uncle - December 6, 2011

FIRST! I’ve got nothing… A CEO in the 23rd Century. EPIC FAIL for Occupy protesters

2. Ivory - December 6, 2011

I’m betting that he is the C.E.O. of a company involved in eugenics.

3. MDSHiPMN - December 6, 2011

So it’s true?

4. number6 - December 6, 2011

Occupy The Enterprise!!

5. Spock's Uncle - December 7, 2011

I will say this, if it IS Khan, I will be VERY disappointed with Abrams, Orci & crew… to go to the trouble of reinventing the entire Trek Universe, creating an alternate timeline, only to return to Khan demonstrates a distinct lack of creativity and original thinking. You have such a clean slate, use it to create something NEW in Trekdom….

6. Shane - December 7, 2011

I already hated the fact that the 2009 movie had money in it and now the sequel is gonna have a (likely a douche bag) CEO?

7. Scott Gammans - December 7, 2011

Didn’t he play some sort of 22nd century CEO wackjob in the penultimate episodes of Star Trek: Enterprise?

8. Dilithium doublebock - December 7, 2011

Lindelof said months ago: no khan, no borg, no time travel.

9. Bucky - December 7, 2011

“Terra Prime, forever!” Holy crap, he WAS right!

10. Geodesic - December 7, 2011

CEO? Not in my futuristic, humanistic, socialist utopia.

11. Harry Ballz - December 7, 2011

I think Weller’s agent is a moron and that the role is probably one of a senior officer in Starfleet.

The agent didn’t know which letters to cite for a military designation, thus the “CEO” comment. People are stupid in Hollywood, and yet they still collect their percentage. Sad.

12. Tiberius Subprime - December 7, 2011


Don’t like the sound of that.

13. Geodesic - December 7, 2011


As in XO or CO?

14. Basement Blogger - December 7, 2011

Oh well. There goes my theory that Weller reprises his role as Paxton from Enterprise’s “Terra Prime” and gets out of prison to defrost Khan. Hey, he’s the fascist superhuman that can kick all the aliens off Earth.

CEO? Hmmm. I agree that there are companies in the twenty third century, but if I recall my Star Trek, they don’t use money. See “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.” So, what would Weller’s motivations be? Hey how about this. Weller is the CEO of Godfather’s Pizza and decides to run for President of the Federation.

15. Geodesic - December 7, 2011

@14 The Ferengi Commerce Association approves.

16. Phil - December 7, 2011

Sucks to be ZQ if they are remaking Wrath of Khan. Spock dies at the end of the movie.

17. Vultan - December 7, 2011

Weller is playing Dick Jones in this one.
OCP is back, baby!

18. Maurice Morris - December 7, 2011

Weller will be the CEO of the Federation; as in, the President.

19. robnhud - December 7, 2011

Chief Engineering Officer??

Just sayin’

20. SirBroiler - December 7, 2011

There is absolutely no lack of creativity in the writers and producers going after Khan in this new timeline. In fact, knowing how many people would balk at the idea and STILL doing a Khan story takes some balls. They could just go Klingons, Romulans, even Borg – but none of those are as risky as a re-telling of the Khan story. This is a bold choice, even if a lot of fans don’t see it that way.

A core concept in all Trek incarnations has been exploration, not just of strange new worlds, but also of a person’s choices and the consequences that result.

Khan forced Kirk and crew to make choices that resulted in serious consequences. From Kirk’s decision to wake the Botany Bay crew and then maroon them to Ceti Alpha 5, to Spock’s choice to sacrifice his own life to save the crew in Wrath. Why is it not creative to take a look at how this alternate timeline crew would respond to the Khan threat – and to see what choices they would make?

There are a million different and creative ways to introduce Khan in this new timeline – and I for one am very interested to see how they do it. If they don’t succeed, I still give the producers lots of credit for making the choice to tell the story at all.

I still predict the reintroduction of Khan late in the story – setting up the third film. And, I suspect it’s not the Enterprise discovering the wayward sleeper ship in this timeline.

Oh the creative possibilities.

21. MJ - December 7, 2011

Interesting that the quote from Weller’s agent says C.E.O. — with periods after each letter, rather than the standard acronym for CEO (with no periods) for Corporate Executive Office. Their could perhaps be a different meaning here of that term given the use of the periods…probably not, but I am not taking anything at face value given the trickery and coded message from Orci and others over the last few years.

22. Keachick - rose pinenut - December 7, 2011

I thought CEO just means Chief Executive Officer, as in CEO of a SOE.

We have them here in NZ – Chief Executive Officer of a State Owned Enterprise, like one of our power companies. Who knows. There just might be a tiny glimmer of hope that perhaps the writers looked outside the confines of the USA to see how things might be done (differently?) in other parts of the world. Just saying…

Zachary Quinto is saying a whole lot of nothing and Damon Lindelof is just “taking the piss”, as in having all us fans on, especially the Khan fanboys.

23. MJ - December 7, 2011

@11 “I think Weller’s agent is a moron and that the role is probably one of a senior officer in Starfleet.”

Yea, or Federation President as someone else had mentioned. He’d make an interesting Commodore Decker as well.

24. MJ - December 7, 2011

@22 “Who knows. There just might be a tiny glimmer of hope that perhaps the writers looked outside the confines of the USA to see how things might be done (differently?) in other parts of the world. Just saying…”

Or outside of the British Empire and its former holdinds? :-))

25. Keachick - rose pinenut - December 7, 2011

We don’t need the Brits or anybody else to tell us what to do or hold our hands.

26. MJ - December 7, 2011

We figured that out about 250 years ago.

27. Commodore Redshirt - December 7, 2011

CEO? I’ll bet it’s COMMODORE.

28. Doug Haffner - December 7, 2011

Buckaroo Bonzai…Ohhh My! (That’s my best George Takei imitation in text form). I love Peter Weller and really think his acting gets unfairly overlooked. He’s very natural and yet brings weight to whatever he does. I don’t care if he’s Admiral Frumpity Frump from Omicron 9 or C.E.O. Donald Frump of Dilithium Industries, I bet he’ll be great.

Del Toro’s reps say it was money…but I like to think he went in for a meeting and it went like this:

Del Toro: “So I hear you’re looking for the next Khan. I’m in. I think I can bring some humanity to him. Make him something beyond a heavy. He’s bred to lead but has a heart to go along with the mind. I’m dialed in on him and I ain’t even seen the script. Anything to put the whole werewolf thing behind me and get my face back on screen for the bulk of a film.”

J.J. : “Um…yeah…the thing is..we’re looking at you to be the Horta. It’s like a sausage pizza ball..but it has a heart, too.”

Del Toro: “What the f*#& is a Horta?”

29. James - December 7, 2011

Lindelof never said “No Khan.” He just said “No Borg.” He didn’t confirm or deny Khan, that is all.

30. MJ - December 7, 2011

Perhaps he is playing Matt Decker.

Wouldn’t it be fun to have the Doomsday Machine and Khan involved in some great Trek story for the next movie!

31. chrisfawkes.com - December 7, 2011

If Khan is not in it then it is not cool to let the rumors go on.

The idea of Khan as next villain is not some cute banter between fans, the idea of that character being in the next trek is pissing most of us off.

If Khan is not in the next movie, which most of us hope he is not then please stop bs and spit it out.

32. MJ - December 7, 2011

For those paying attention, we already know Khan is in the film. Next topic….

33. saavik001 - December 7, 2011

Paramount Memo:

Weller will be the EVIL CEO, cause money is evil ya know? And Del Toro was going to be the EVIL guy thats poisoning some distant jungle (Hawaii) and the GOOD guys have to defeat him and bring down the EVIL corporation… Its timely and the kids will love it… and in 3D!

34. The Unknown Poster - December 7, 2011

blah blah blah I hate Khan blah blah blah i will be disappointed in Abrams blah blah blah i will never watch star trek again blah blah

get over it.

35. Jerry - December 7, 2011

What ever role Weller is playing I’m sure it will be as good as the 2009 movie. I like Weller as an actor and JJ has yet to fail to impress me. I WILL HOWEVER keep in mind that this is a WHOLE NEW Star Trek when I watch this movie I will have no preconceived notions that it follows the OLD Star Trek Time Line.
As a TRUE Star Trek fan I would like to say that I LOVE all the new stuff they have brought in so far and I LOVE ALL THE OLD STUFF TOO.
I will not let any past episode or movie let me make any decisions on how this new movie should be or shouldn’t be.

I do however hope they stay with the current timeline and follow it from the new beginning. I hear that this movie will “Stand on it’s own” and all but I hope they add on to this timeline correctly.

36. BitterTrekkie - December 7, 2011

If the producers wanted their movies to stand on their own, they would have started their own franchise. Using name recognition to get people to go see their movies isn’t truly “standing on their own”.

37. Keachick - rose pinenut - December 7, 2011

#26 NZ was discovered by *Captain James Cook in 1796, only about 216 years ago. Your point being?

* Actually I thought that the character of Captain James Kirk was inspired by the real life Captain James Cook, an explorer who went further than any man of his day and probably of any time. Many of his maps are still used today, such is their accuracy. It’s sort of disappointing really that Kirk was just a knock-off a some fictional Horatio Hornblower character. Whoopdeedoo.

38. Keachick - rose pinenut - December 7, 2011

#36 Don’t be a troll.

39. BitterTrekkie - December 7, 2011

38. The truth hurts, doesn’t it?

40. MJ - December 7, 2011

@39 The truth that you are troll – yes that must bother you.

41. Keachick - rose pinenut - December 7, 2011

What truth? All you are doing is twisting the idea of this movie being a “stand on its own” one.

I understood the comment to mean that the movie has a beginning, middle and end and does not end on a cliffhanger, where a person needs to see the next movie to know how it all ends. I agree that the movie should “stand on its own”. The following movie should be the same as well. That does not mean that certain characters cannot be seen again or that certain themes cannot be revisited in any follow on movie though.

42. MJ - December 7, 2011

@37 “Actually I thought that the character of Captain James Kirk was inspired by the real life Captain James Cook, an explorer who…”

Thanks for the history lecture, Mr. Chekov. :-)

Seriously, you aren’t that far off. Kirk was inspired by the character of Horatio Hornblower (C.S. Forrester novels), who in turn was inspired by the career of the great Admiral Horatio Lord Nelson of Trafalgar and other naval fame during the period of Napoleonic Wars.

43. MJ - December 7, 2011

@41. Keachick, I was responding to Bitter Trekkie (and agreeing with you that he is a troll). Not sure why you are upset with me again here???

44. BitterTrekkie - December 7, 2011

I’m a troll because I have a different a different opinion then you?
Not very IDIC-y of you :)

45. BitterTrekkie - December 7, 2011

And no the producers are still not standing on their own.

46. Jay El Jay - December 7, 2011

And now the obligatory year of interviews with the cast all saying one thing… “This movie is going to rock… I am sooo excited”


ORRRR…. a 6 minute prolougue ala Dark Knight Rises….

Make it so…

47. Schultz - December 7, 2011

CEO Weller breeding new Vulcans after the cataclysm. (?)

48. MJ - December 7, 2011

@44 gee, could it just possible be that since you yourself label yourself “Bitter Trekkie” and say bitter things about Trek here on these boards that people will determine that you are a troll? Could that possibly be a logical conclusion? LOL

Go away troll — you’re not fooling us anymore:

Hail, hail, fire and snow
Call the angel, we will go
Far away, for to see
Friendly Angel come to me!

49. Keachick - rose pinenut - December 7, 2011

I find it interesting/curious/coincidental(?) that they have cast Peter Weller that the rumour machine tells us will play a CEO. He does not have to be head of a private company, as we know them today. However, he could be the head of a Federation/Starfleet organization tasked with seeking out resources like dilithium crystals, mining operations, refining, processing and distribution etc.

In my own story (first written between August and October 2009), a rogue Starfleet Admiral or CEO or some other bigwig type actually sets up the Klingons to take the fall if their secret mining of precious metals on the least populated part of Menosia is found out…

Bob Orci – I know Anthony Pascale will know how you can contact me. No imposters.

50. Keachick - rose pinenut - December 7, 2011

#43 I was not upset with you, MJ. I only saw your post AFTER I had written and posted my comment #41. I was responding to Bitter Trekkie’s comment – “38. The truth hurts, doesn’t it?”

51. Dilithium doublebock - December 7, 2011

@29. Seems I was wrong about the “no khan” thing. I thought he said it before his July comment neither confirming nor denying. Searched months prior but all I found was this:

Damon Lindelof: There is no way we can remake The Wrath
of Khan. We hold it in such high esteem ourselves that it would be creative suicide to put the bar up there and say “that’s what we are going for.” We are in an entirely different paradigm with our second movie.

Looks like I read no khan when it wasn’t there. Dang. I don’t want khan.

52. MJ - December 7, 2011

OK, thanks Keachick. :-)

We’ve all got to stick together when applying troll pest control techniques. It’s like taking care of a rat or cockroach problem in your house…very hard to eradicate them, but it feels so much better when they are gone!

Time for bed…not sure why I am still up at 2:30 AM here. talk to to you tomorrow….Best., MJ

53. Christopher Roberts - December 7, 2011


Weller is playing Leslie Moonves, evil head of CBS, who’s been defrosted in the 23rd Century.

Watch out Abramsverse! He’s out to cancel you!


54. Goldman - December 7, 2011

Peter Weller is an underrated actor and it’s good to see him finally in a mainstream movie again. However, I would have liked to see a new actor to the franchise unless Weller is playing a descendant of John Frederick Paxton which would probably mean the villains are Terra Prime, the extremist xenophobic terrorist organisation.

55. Christopher Roberts - December 7, 2011

While it’s highly unlikely, there is a built-in way for this character to still be around 100 years later. Paxton wasn’t true to his ideals of being a pure human. He was born with one of the diseases Colonel Green would’ve used as an excuse to eliminate WWIII survivors for having. Paxton was prolonging his life with Rigellian gene therapy. So a double hippocrite.

Like Archer’s mixing blood with those Klingons, infected in a way that removed their ridges… You have to wonder what the side effects are of swapping chromosomes actually is.

56. Mel - December 7, 2011

You know? No one is ever going to be *completely* happy with whatever the next film is about. I think Khan is a FANTASTIC character that could be explored in so many different ways. To ignore him would be silly because he *is* out there, even in this newer timeline. The events that led Khan to the Botany Bay and off Earth happened long before the timeline was changed.

For those complaining about creativity? Are you the same people who also complained when Enterprise brought in the Xindi as a “new villain” because it never officially existed in the Trek cannon timeline or we had never heard of them in the future incarnations of Trek?

I echo a comment I read up thread: get over it and just enjoy the ride…

57. Hat Rick - December 7, 2011

This brings to my mind a question as to the staffing issues connected with the response to the Vulcan distress call in ST2009. Since the regular fleet was deployed in the Laurentian System (for unknown reasons), the remaining available ships are seen to be, as a result, greatly short-staffed. This implies that these reserve ships were never allocated for use except in case of emergency, and that their regular crews had largely been dispersed on temporary assignments to deal with the Laurentian crisis, or were on shore leave.

There had clearly been a regular roster of personnel assigned to the brand-new Enterprise from dialogue stating that Sulu had replaced the regular navigator who had come down with a case of lungworm. Sulu at that point was already an officer, as is apparent from his expertise and uniform, and thus senior to Kirk, who was only a cadet.

In fact, it’s interesting to me to try to figure out the relative seniority of the cadets at the beginning of the movie.

Kirk was a third-year cadet of a class that would normally graduate in four years.

Spock was already an officer as he was part of the staff implementing the Kobayashi Maru test through the program that he had designed some three years prior. (“How’d that kid beat your test?” “I do not know.” See also dialogue when he is introduced at the academic disciplinary hearing.)

Scotty was also a an officer “exiled” to Delta Vega and, as noted, so was Sulu.

The promotion of Cadet McCoy to CMO occurred when the regular CMO of the Enterprise, Dr. Puri (phonetic), was killed. (See Spock’s dialogue to McCoy immediately after the Narada’s attack on the Enterprise, to which McCoy states, “Tell me something I don’t know!”) McCoy was already “one of the Enterprise’s” medical officers (the “as YOU were” exchange as Kirk is accompanied aboard a shuttlecraft bound for the Enterprise after displaying symptoms of the vaccination shot given to him by McCoy); he benefited from the fact that he was already a medical doctor (from McCoy’s first set of lines in the movie as he boards the shuttlecraft bound for Starfleet Academy).

Ensign Chekov, likewise, was already an officer (and a prodigy, no doubt), but was unfamiliar to Pike at first, and thus was not part of the Enterprise’s regular crew.

58. Hat Rick - December 7, 2011

^^Erratum: I did not mean that Sulu was “also” exiled; I meant that Sulu was also an officer. Sorry for the confusion and poor phrasing.

59. Jo Jo - December 7, 2011

Dare we hope? Sounds like a classic style ST story where the crew visits a planet and has a socially relevant adventure. Gasp!

60. CJS - December 7, 2011

Of course he’s a CEO. In the alternate timeline the Federation is a corporate oligarchy. Weller plays a CEO who manipulates Starfleet into invading and occupying Rura Penthe so he can mine the dilithium. Del Toro’s roll was as the Kilngon commander of the camp who conspires with Weller for a piece of the action. Drill, baby, drill. Who needs Orci. This stuff writes itself.

61. Hat Rick - December 7, 2011

If it’s true that Weller plays an XO, we could easily have Social Relevance (TM) baked in. Weller plays characters that exemplify human/superhuman superiority (or, in the case of Robocop, cyberhuman superiority.)

Spock is still struggling with his heritage. Unlike Spock Prime, he no longer has recourse to a planet that represents half his cultural and genetic heritage. He is very much, as they say, “compromised.”

Also unlike Spock Prime, he is aware that there is an older Spock who already knows the things to come, at least to some extent. An individual in that position could easily be moved to reach out to all aspects of his past in an effort to save half his heritage, and, in the process, himself.

The social relevance of this is obvious. There are substantial doubts about the superiority of our current politico-economic system and there is a divisiveness in our political discourse that seems to invite rancor and perhaps even hatred. Khan need not be present in order for there to be a story that tells us where we are today in determining our own future — whether powerful or powerless, selfish or compassionate, or somewhere in between.

PIke comes off as wistful in ST2009, harkening back to a more heroic past. Weller’s character, as XO, could be the other side of the coin — a man with similar visions, but a different way of achieving the ends he seeks.

Kirk, as a man who lost a father he shouldn’t have lost, and Spock, a Vulcan-Human who lost a mother who would have supported and taken pride in him in whatever he tried, can only take the conflict between the Pikean view of the improvement of humanity and that exemplified by his putative XO.

62. Hat Rick - December 7, 2011

“Kirk, as a man who lost a father he shouldn’t have lost, and Spock, a Vulcan-Human who lost a mother who would have supported and taken pride in him in whatever he tried, can only take so far the conflict between the Pikean view of the improvement of humanity and that exemplified by his putative XO.”

As corrected.

63. VZX - December 7, 2011

Dang, well that sucks.

I’ll go see the movie no matter what once, but I don’t know if I will go multiple times like I have for other Trek movies or buy the Blu-Ray if Khan is in it.

64. "The Sky's The Limit" - December 7, 2011

There is so much more to Star Trek than Khan. Why even go there again?

“Shore Leave” was a light hearted episode, but thought provoking and entertaining. Now that would have been a great episode to build on.

Peter Weller is a sharp guy, and a good actor. Hope he’s used in line with his abilities; otherwise, he’s going to come across very, very stale in the movie.

Can’t wait!!!

65. RTC - December 7, 2011

I’m going to hang onto my faith in Bob, JJ and team. We know they love Trek (even JJ after we redeemed his Star Wars soul) and trust that they want to make the best Trek film they can. Yeah, the Khan rumor unsettles me, too, but regardless of who’s in it, why not wait to see the final product before passing judgment?

66. falcon - December 7, 2011

The whole CEO thing is misdirection. Remember when ST 2009 was in production, the working title was “Corporate Headquarters.” (Or something similar.)

Now if Variety screwed up and Weller really is a CO, then it’s probably another starship. Maybe USS Exeter? How about “The Omega Glory”?

67. Captain Rickover - December 7, 2011

Neither yes or no means 100% yes.

68. Not A Fan Boy - December 7, 2011

I hate all this speculation nonsense. I stay away from Dark Knight Rises Spoilers because I want to genuinely enjoy the movie. This Speculation on Star Trek is getting crazy. Until then send out an official press release with a brief synopsis and cast, nerd boys need to chill out. I am excited to see how they will top the last film. I hope they are original and creative and I hope its something we have not seen or something with a new spin. Can you imagine if the Internet had been around when George Lucas was prepping Empire Strikes Back? We would have known Darth Vader was Lukes father six months before the film came out. That was the greatest moment of my childhood by the way. I want to be pleasently surprised by this new Trek and not have it spoiled for me. Every little press release and rumor is just stupid. The Nerds on here are already speculating about Peter Wellers role which is based on a Rumor. Seriously? I want to be surprised.

69. Jay - December 7, 2011

The concept of money in Star Trek has been contradicted many times in the various incarnations of Star Trek, even withing the TOS series itself. Just like alot of things considered “canon”. Don’t get so cought up on the fact that they had money in the 2009 movie or the term CEO being mentioned here.

Also, as for the term “CEO”. I would not take this too literally either. This could just be one persons interpretation of the type of role Weller will be playing. As in a boss. Someone managing or running things from behind the scenes. You could refer to a mob boss as a CEO. We have already heard that there is a “older” bad guy that is kind of a mentor to the main villain that Del Toro was to play. Maybe that is this “CEO”. Maybe that is Weller. We really have no idea at this point.

70. Jay - December 7, 2011

As for Khan. I’ve gone back and forth on this. In general I would prefer they not do Khan. I can see how, though, if they did a remake of Space Seed, where this crew discovers the Botany Bay adrift. I’m sure they could write a good story around that.

My problem is seeing how you could remake that one episode into a 2 hour movie. I think Star Trek has that difficulty in general because it was made for TV. And alot of the moral delima type story lines are best for TV and not the movies. Thta’s why several of the movies have seemed more like inflated TV shows than movies.

With all that has changed in the movie industry and how it exists today, and how expensive it is to take a family to a movie, you simply owe the audience more than a rehashed, or inflated TV episode.

Maybe Khan is just one story line in this movie. Maybe that happens early on and some bigger more dangerous advisary or problem arises while the Enterprise crew is dealing with Khan.

Who knows, but for now I’m open to Khan being in the movie. I still, however, believe if he is, the actor must be an A-List actor.

71. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - December 7, 2011

I still say get Tom Hanks as Commodore Matt Decker.

72. alec - December 7, 2011

Every snippet of casting and scouting we’ve had screams Khaaaaan! Excellent. The CEO will be of either a eugenics or suspended animation company. Khan will either work with him or trick him somehow into creating a race a supermen. This could happen on Earth or somewhere else. Eve will either be Marcus or Khan’s wife.

This could easily be a two hour film. What I want is as follows:

1. Khan to have a compelling, powerful and believable backstory: not a 40 sec mindmeld recollection.

2. A backstory that doesn’t mention the eugenics wars of the 1990s!

3. Kirk to scream Khaaaaan. He has to.

4. Lots of quotes from one or more great books. The general structure and plot points should also be based on this: as TWOK is, essentially, a retelling of Paradise Lost and Moby Dick.

73. "The Sky's The Limit" - December 7, 2011

@ 65. RTC – December 7, 2011

“Yeah, the Khan rumor unsettles me, too, but regardless of who’s in it, why not wait to see the final product before passing judgment?”

Not passing judgement here . . .

Just making an observation that everyone’s energy is spent debating the “Khan rumor,” whereas, there’s so much more of the Star Trek universe that can be explored that hasn’t been touched yet.

Regardless, (and with no judgements passed) I still can’t wait for the movie!

74. Phil - December 7, 2011

@6. What? All of Trek has had money in it. If you are looking to Occupy Star Trek, go do it someplace else.

75. Janice - December 7, 2011

It’s nice to see these little news tid-bits but I’m still waiting to hear about the one that means the most to me—
Is Bruce Greenwood returning as PIKE??? Anyone know??

76. SupremeDalekOnTheBridge - December 7, 2011

“Damon Lindelof to take to Twitter with the following (a seeming homage to a famous Star Trek scream)”

No shit. I’d never have got that reference if you hadn’t told me.

77. John from Cincinnati - December 7, 2011

A 1990’s Eugenics CEO perchance?

78. John from Cincinnati - December 7, 2011

Javier Bardem as Khan?!

79. In The Know - December 7, 2011

Actually did anyone ever consider that Weller might be the CEO of the company that built the Doomsday Machine and Kirk and Crew try to fetch him because he is the only one who knows how to disable it all while battling Khan who wants to gain control of it?

80. Logical - December 7, 2011

Don’t hate! The same folks who say they will be dissappointed if Khan is the villain are the same folks who watch re-runs of TWOK or Space Seed all the time. If you like it that much to watch again, what would be wrong with a fresh approach to Khan? Would you not think in 2012 there is so much more that can be done with the character than in the 1960’s or 1980’s? You say it’s not original…yet we are all watching a reboot of the same series with the same characters. You say that Khan could not be duplicated because it was bested by the late Ricardo Montalban. I agree, he was the original Khan, just like Shatner was the original Kirk. But Pine has done a good job carrying on after Shatner laid the foundation, just as a new Khan could carry on after the foundation was laid by Ricardo Montalban. GET OVER IT!!! If it is Khan or not…it’s still STAR TREK and that’s all I need.

81. BitterTrekkie - December 7, 2011

80. The same folks who say they will be dissappointed if Khan is the villain are the same folks who watch re-runs of TWOK or Space Seed all the time.

Maybe it’s cause they were done perfectly the first time around.

82. Bill Murray - December 7, 2011

I guess I’m in the minority but I trust The Supreme Court. At this point I kinda hope it’s Khan. I think these guys could take that character we think we know and blow our minds with where they go with it. Khan as the villain does NOT mean a rehash of Space Seed and/or TWOK.

Imgaine what the banter would’ve been if the interwebz was around during pre-production on The Voyage Home…

“A space probe that wants to SAVE THE WHALES!!??!! Harve Bennett is the anti-Christ!! Nimoy wants to rape our eyeballs!! Star Trek IS DEAD!! The only real Trek is my fan fic!!”

83. Phil - December 7, 2011

@79. The Doomsday Machine was from outside the galaxy. Given what was presented at state of the art ship construction in Trek 11, that’s a huge and unbelievible leap to have the DM being a human construct.

I’m just impressed that a tiny bit of rumor about what a character is hits the press, and everyone is constructing a script around it. Way to early for this kind of speculation, considering that the script apparently STILL IS NOT FINISHED!!!!

84. JediSpock - December 7, 2011

@ 20

You said it perfectly. The creative possibilities, and potential character-struggle by THIS crew having to go up against Khan is thrilling!

85. Harry Ballz - December 7, 2011

You can pass wind, you can pass a kidney stone, but you can’t pass judgement on a movie?

86. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - December 7, 2011

Bob Orci. Please take Notes. Ok. Here is what the new movie would be like if Del Trame (BND) was here to write it.

Hi everybody! How be tricks, me hearties????
The Enterprize, Voyager, and Excelsior are entering the No-Toll Zone, somewhere around the Jersey Turnpike…
CAPTAIN SPOCK: Helmsman, adjust course to…
WILLIAM SHATNER: (jumping out from turbo-lift) Belay that… I’m here to take command.
CAPTAIN SPOCK: Where have you been, Bill?
WILLIAM SHATNER: Oh, AJ had me mixed up in all that K/S action again. Took some time.
CAPTAIN SPOCK: But Bill, I – and my pointiness- have been here all along.
WILLIAM SHATNER: Oh, I traded you up, Spock. I’m with Zachie Quincy… Quinty… whatever… I’m with young Spock now.
>>> ZACH QUINTO: (curled in ball, drooling, wide eyed in a dark corridor with blood shot eyes) The girdle… the girdle… the girdle…
JAMES SPADER: There you are, Denny. You do wander off these days. Hey, do I smell a young sci-fi actor on you? This could be grounds for divorce, Denny.
WILLIAM SHATNER: You know I’m in that new Star Wars film by J.J. Afroes… it’s a big… surprise! I sing… Hair! Give me down to there hair
Shoulder length or longer Here baby, there mama Everywhere daddy daddy Flow it, show it Long as God can grow it – My hair…
JAMES SPADER: Of course, Denny. Whatever you say. Now then… let’s go help Murphy Brown with her sexy sinews.
CHEKOV: Under attack, Keptain! Looks like them bolshivek blighters known as… prequel? I tink it iz Archer. Bah- Russians inwented prequel with famous Russian nowel “The Embryos Karamowoz.”
… On Archer’s ship
CAPTAIN ARCHER: Golly, I’m sick of folks saying we were so bad. Gee whiz… my only alternative is to erase all other Star Trek from memory. Hold on a minute… (plunges his overflowing captain’s chair) Trip! I told you I can crap like a big boy… where aren’t the large pipes installed yet?
TRIP: Well, sir… I kind of lost all those large sized plumbing pipes… Right after I greased them up real good…
>>> T’POW: (alone in her cabin, handling several long, wide sections of plumbing) Oh, Trippy Boy, the pipes! The pipes are calling!
REED: (looking unhappy and angry) We could use our secret weapon to eradicate them, sir.
CAPTAIN ARCHER: Good thinking, English Guy. Fire the Xindi what’s-it we found in season three when no one was watching.
… on Enterprize
CHEKOV: What in Great Peter’s Ghost is that?! Hold on for impact. Ladies, sheild your wulwas.
(The Enterprize is struck by a massive destructive force and begins to burn in space)
CAPTAIN SPOCK: Report. Why are we drifting?
BND: (knocked down on bridge floor with controls jutting in him) Oh, I got tha’ bleedin’ bilge boppin’ control console stuck in me! Awwwk! Get it oot! Chekov’ll haveta’ reach in me bellybutton ta’ fire a photon torpy-do!
CAPTAIN SPOCK: We’ll use auxilarry controls. Mr. Chekov, remove them from my trousers.
CHEKOV: Aye, sir. (gets out Wii joystick) Now, do we wenture to starboard when I weer my buttocks to the left… Why are the instructions in Russian? Can anyone here read Russian? Wodka swilling no-goodniks…
…On Excelsior
CAPTAIN SULU: Quick, we need to destroy that primitive yet more advanced looking Starfleet vessel with Scott Bakula.
CHRISTIAN SLATER: Sir, as ugly as our ship is, theirs is just uglier. If we let them be, we can at least say our ship is sexier than Captain Quantum Leap.
CAPTAIN SULU: I’m… too sexy for my ship. So mister, like I tell my expensive yet reliant Chippendale dancers- Fire anyway! Double the yeild!
CHRISTIAN SLATER: Very well… arming the Excelsior’s plating penetration phazors… (mugs like Jack Nicholsen) Wait’ll they get the loads from me.
…On Archer’s ship
CAPTAIN ARCHER: What the heck is that?
REED: It’s something we’ve never seen before… (looks at Archer) none of us… not at all… It’s a load of EDITED coming (so to speak) straight at us.
CAPTAIN ARCHER: My Gosh… everyone… put on your raincoats! Someone cover Porthos’ eyes!
>>> T’ POW: (in quarters with large plumbing pipes) Sweeeeeeeet mystery of liiiiiiiiife! At last I found you…
(Archer’s ship explodes, Spock’s Enterprize begins warpcore breach due to shockwave from Trip’s peanut-oil deep-fryer blowing up real-nice)
… On Voyager
CAPTAIN JANEWAY: Let’s see… should I try to help the survivors… they’d be dead anyway… what would Starfleet think? Killed by the legendary Archer? It would change our vision of him… Maybe he never existed? We should not interfere.
CHAKOTAY: Dammit, you senseless twit! We should try to help survivors!
CAPTAIN JANEWAY: Very well, Commander. Keep your pants off, though.
CHAKOTAY: When have I ever worn the pants around here??!!!
… On Enterprize
CAPTAIN SPOCK: Transporter room, beam out survivers to the Excelsior and that useless Voyager vessel. All hands, abandon ship! Transporter room? Respond!
UHURU: Sir, it seems that Ensign Steve the Lesbos Warrior was manning that post when some tom-foolery with the transporter got him sent to the mirror universe. He’s currently being seduced by evil Kira and her horse.
>>> LESBOS WARRIOR STEVE: (on mirror DS9… which would be DS6 maybe?) She keeps calling “Wiiiiiiiiiiildfire!” Oh, mighty Zeus, save me from hoof-in-mouth disease!
>>> EVIL KIRA: I just love a man in a red Starfleet toga. Help me with the rise and fall and rise again of the Empire!
>>> LESBOS WARRIOR STEVE: What the hades… At least she ain’t evil Janeway.
(Shatner, Spock, Uhuru, and Chekov all beam aboard the Excelsior and watch as the Enterprize blows up real good-like)
WILLIAM SHATNER: Maybe converting to hydrogen fuel cells was… A… bad idea. Oh, no! I left Zachie Quantas on-board! Spock- he’ll never… hop again!
CAPTAIN SPOCK: Sigh… I will have to go back in time to save myself. And perhaps… I too will then trade-up.
>>>CHRIS PINE: (years ago, at an academy lecture on green gynecology, starts to sweat and winces) Yikes. Feels like I need to watch out for something…
… On Voyager
BND: (appearing in sickbay after being transported off Enterprize) Oh… red jelly bean buttons makin’ me pancreas puke… Help me, O-Bob- Picardo, yer’ me only hope!
THE DOCTOR: Please state the nature of the medical emergency.
BND: I gots this console stuck in me lower g.i. tract, ye’ wanky buggeroo g-string nose grinder! Canna ye’ see that?!!! Arrrrrg!
BE’LANA TORRES: We need a new occipital tachyon magriffion pe-nissalter relay buttdress re-fillherlater… Hey, that guy has just what I need in his gut.
BND: Oh, no… doomed forever ta’ be part of Voy-her-ger! Noooooo! Is this tha’ end o’ BND?????
Whilst sailin’ ‘cross tha’ ocean
Whilst sailin’ ‘cross tha’ sea
I dream o’ handsome Molly
Oh, Molly, come be wit’ me…
Dunna ye’ remember, Molly?
Ye’ gave me yer’ right hand
I gots in me satchel
Next ta’ me swiss and ham
I wish I were in London or some other sea port land
Where I could meet wit’ Molly
Perhaps re-attach her hand
Said once say that iffa she marry
That I would be tha’ man
Now she’s gone and left me
Go on wit’ who she please
Gone on cuz I’ve a plasma conduit
Wherein I used ta’ pee
Me poor heart is breakin’
As Voy-Her-Ger takes me ta’ tha’ lost sea…
CAPTAIN JANEWAY: Console! Quit singing!
BND: Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrr… and mayhaps some Esssssssssss…

87. Captain Peabody - December 7, 2011

It’s very likely the “CEO” role is pseudonymous or metaphorical in this case.

For Lost, also a JJ & Lindelof production, the casting information given to actors trying for most of the roles used metaphorical corporate language to cover up the real character. The main villain of the show was described in casting as “A corporate raider looking to take over his next company,” and similar language was used with other casting calls, I believe.

So I think it’s very likely this “CEO” is in actuality some kind of prominent non-corporate leader within the show. Maybe Starfleet Chief of Staff, maybe the leader of the Klingons or bad guy race or whatever. We’ll see.

88. EM - December 7, 2011


That was way too long to read. Think I’ll wait for the movie.

89. Keachick - rose pinenut - December 7, 2011

#86 That was a total hoot. LOL!!! Such great humour and imagination!

90. Gary Makin - December 7, 2011

Maybe the story is an analogy to the New World Order trying to create a one-world government/corporation? Maybe not.

91. Logical - December 7, 2011

#81, you have an appropriate name. Don’t just take a line out of the paragraph and make a statement. It is apparent that you did not read the first time.

92. Keachick - rose pinenut - December 7, 2011

#85 How can you pass judgment on a movie that is not even made yet?

93. rogue_alice - December 7, 2011

Okay, call me dense, but I don’t see the Khan thing happening for the simple reason that the “Space Seed” plot is not big enough and we need that plot to preceed the TWOK script for Khan to be the Ceti Alpha V marooned, off his gourd revenge filled soul.

94. Khantroversy - December 7, 2011

They start shooting in about six weeks, and still NONE of the actors have read the script? Riiiiiigggghhhhht…

95. Cygnus-X1 - December 7, 2011

16. Phil – December 7, 2011

—-Sucks to be ZQ if they are remaking Wrath of Khan. Spock dies at the end of the movie.—-

That’s funny.

96. Commodore Adams - December 7, 2011

Nah, Weller is too old to portray Khan.

97. Red Dead Ryan - December 7, 2011

I watched “The Wrath Of Khan” a few nights ago. To be honest, as great a Trek film as it is, it is pretty dated. The sets were small, Saavik’s obsession with rules and regulations was annoying, and the pacing is a bit slow compared to today’s films. Not necessarily a bad thing, just something that wouldn’t work with today’s mainstream audience. “The Search For Spock” felt bigger in scope, in my opinion. Still, TWOK is a Trek classic, though not a mainstream favorite, unfortunately.

Now, I’m not at all suggesting a remake of TWOK, or even “Space Seed”. What I am suggesting is the possibility of an updated, and more rounded version of the character of Khan and his henchmen in a movie covering his origins, from the twenty-third century perspective, of course. We have the chance to repackage Khan for a new audience who may not be familiar with the version played by the late Ricardo Montalban. Nobody’s going to top Montalban’s performance, but a new actor can add some new dimensions to the character to make it his own without taking away from the original portrayal. Kind of like how Heath Ledger put in a legendary performance as the Joker in “The Dark Knight”, while people still consider Jack Nicholson’s version in “Batman” to a be a classic. And both movies are totally different from each other. Christopher Nolan did not rehash Tim Burton.

Add in a well-written plot, with mind-blowing action scenes, a little romance and humor, and today’s state of the art visual effects, and the possibility for the first truly epic Trek movie will be within our grasp. There’s NEVER been a perfect Trek film. The writers of the sequel have the chance to make one for the ages. Something that will be remembered alongside such sequels as “The Empire Strikes Back”, “The Two Towers”, “The Dark Knight”, “Terminator 2: Judgement Day”, etc.

There is no reason why “Star Trek” should be kept in a box of limitations due to lack of resources and money. Things are different now.

98. Decker - December 7, 2011

Chief Executive Officer = First Officer (i.e. Spock, Riker)

First Officer of another ship perhaps?

99. Decker - December 7, 2011

@61 “If it’s true that Weller plays an XO, we could easily have Social Relevance (TM) baked in. Weller plays characters that exemplify human/superhuman superiority (or, in the case of Robocop, cyberhuman superiority.)”

Gary Mitchell as XO?

100. Jay - December 7, 2011

#87 Exactly what I was trying to say earlier. JJ has routinely used corporate language to cover up the real characters, plot, etc of his projects. I’m postive that is the case with the use of the term “CEO” with the character Weller will play. It will not be an actual CEO.

#96 I agree. This is a completely different time line. However the events that led Khan to be adrift in the Botany Bay would have take place before Nero and therefore he would still be adrift out there. So in a sense this would be a remake of Space Seed, however, it could be completely different and have nothing to do with that plot at all. This movie could create a much different Khan and story around him, much like you describe was done with the Joker in Batman. That is a perfect example of how one character can be imagine so completely differently but still be recognized as the Joker. You can still have things you like about both versions (Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger), but see that those two movies, and those two versions of the Joker were worlds apart, but good in their own right. The same could happen here with Khan. It could stand completely on it’s own even with the Khan character.

101. Tony Todd's Tears - December 7, 2011

1. Serve The Public Trust
2. Protect The Innocent
3. Uphold The Law
4. Never Fire on J.J. Abrams

102. Kev -1 - December 7, 2011

CEOS, corporate continuity, Kirk promoted largely by favoritism, ship assignments by boyfriends, grungy cities, robot looking space cops, evil stepfathers — it’s the Mirror Universe!

103. Odkin - December 7, 2011

Although I don’t really think Weller will play a CEO, one things for sure with these writers:

Any CEO will be an EVIL CEO.

Hollywood won’t have it any other way.

104. Dr. Cheis - December 7, 2011

Yeah I have a feeling the agent didn’t really understand what the role is, and meant that its a role with status similar to a CEO.

105. BiggestTOSfanever - December 7, 2011

I’ve been reading the “Ongoing” comic book series, and if the events in the alternate timeline are following the seasons (which they may not be) and the next episode to play in the stories is “Operation: Annihilate!”, does that mean we have passed “Space Seed” and the rest of the first season by? “Operation: Annihilate!” is right at the end of the 1st season, and I think the comic book after that will be in season 2. So far, the stories are pretty similar to the originals.
Bob Orci did say the stories are supposed to fit in with the movie.

106. n1701ncc - December 7, 2011

Haven’t we all be Khaned enough. JJ and Bob are having lots of fun with this. Keep Khan Prime…or KKP

107. Duane Dibbly of Borg - December 7, 2011

Could well be playing Joachim? that was Khan’s CEO on the reliant, the only member of his cast with a speaking role. There’s a striking similarity, the voice is kind of similar too

108. Studio Covert Operative - December 7, 2011

@97 Decker:

You are correct. Perhaps the CEO (Chief Executive Officer) to Admiral Pike.

109. Spock/Uhura Fan - December 7, 2011

Zachary looks wonderful and well-shaven. Looks like he’s getting ready to be Mr. Spock. :-)

110. Captain Kolchack - December 7, 2011

Money in Trek:

Trouble With Tribbles – Barkeep and Cyrano Jones barter the price of tribbles.

TNG: Encounter at Farpoint – Crusher “buys” the bolt of material.

Just two examples of money in Trek that popped into my decaying head.

111. Jake Cannon - December 7, 2011

Guys, I think you’re really reaching on the meaning of “CEO” here… An executive officer (of a ship) is an “XO”.

112. Phil - December 7, 2011

Uh, no one has seen a script yet, so everything is speculation.

113. I, Mugsy - December 7, 2011

Of course Khan IS in it – they would have debunked it by now if now. They’ve gone the easy route with this franchise already….

A GREAT pity indeed… They could have boldly explored the unknown and fulfulled those great opening words of Star Trek, and done Roddenberrry proud… (the last film was pretty poor as a Trek production I thought, but pretty good as a bog standard ‘popcorn’ sci-fi actioner).

We need a thought provoking sequal, not another f*cking villain of the week piece – YAWN!!!

114. T'Cal - December 7, 2011

I love Star Track! Especially that Dr. Spock guy.

115. I, Mugsy - December 7, 2011

P.S. I hope with each sequal they don’t ‘re-imagine’ more episodes from Trek past. For God’s sake do something new!

116. Spock/Uhura Fan - December 7, 2011

I think they’ve been doing a great job, and I’m sure we’ll see something new that still gives a nod to the roots of the franchise.

In the case of ST 2009, they ‘re-imagined’ it right. :-)

117. Spock/Uhura Fan - December 7, 2011

Has anybody ever seen this:


It’s hilarious. :-)

118. Keachick - rose pinenut - December 7, 2011

Those who need to see the script have seen it. The actors do not NEED to see the script yet. They might want to but that is not the same as needing to. It is still 5 and half weeks away from filming. How long would it take for them to read the script anyway and get a general feel for the film and in particular what is happening to their character? I suspect they learn/rehearse their lines, scene by scene, before the cameras roll.

No doubt Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, Karl Urban etc have been apprised of anything they need to work on, be prepared for, when it comes to actually filming sequences they are to do. All Quinto needs to know is that he will have to do some running at some point, hence the need to get fitter, but it does not mean that he needs to know the context in terms of where or why he is running. The same would apply to Chris Pine and any of the actors as well.

119. Studio Covert Operative - December 7, 2011

@ 109: Captain Kolchack

Don’t forget Kirk in the Doomsday Machine saying “Scotty, you’ve just earned your pay for the week” after Scotty tells him that the Constellation has phasers operational.

120. Bucky - December 7, 2011

If y’all listen to the commentary track for “Star Trek” all the way through to the end credits (which they even say “are you really still listening to our commentary?” if you stick through it), Lindeolf says they wanted to add a post-credits teaser of the Botany Bay floating in space but thought it would box them in. But it does indicate they were leaning towards Kahn back then. However, if adding Weller as a sort of a mentor to the main bad guy means they aren’t exactly doing a Wrath of Kahn / Space Seed remake, which I don’t think they’d do anyway. Maybe somebody else picks up the Botany Bay, Weller’s character, and makes Kahn evil-er or something.

Work in a Terra Prime reference, dammit, if Weller gets the gig. Alls I ask for.

121. MONGO - December 7, 2011

Mongo not read all comment. But Mongo think Weller cast as Jackson Roykirk. He design Botany Bay ship that Khan escape Earth in (oh, and Nomad probe, too).

Mongo still hope beyond hope that Khan not in Star Trek movies.

122. Simon - December 7, 2011

@119 – I think they should have KHAN in *every movie* until people spell his name correctly!


Right there in the credits and on the box of STAR TREK II.

123. Jim - December 7, 2011


“The writers of the sequel have the chance to make one for the ages. Something that will be remembered alongside such sequels as “The Empire Strikes Back”, “The Two Towers”, “The Dark Knight”, “Terminator 2: Judgement Day”, etc.”


Too bad you’re forgetting: Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan ** IS ALREADY ** something that belongs on that list.

124. Hat Rick - December 7, 2011

98 (Decker), intriguing thought!

125. Hat Rick - December 7, 2011

If the agent meant XO rather than CEO, then it’s possible that Weller is playing Pike’s (regular) XO if Pike is in the movie. It’s possible that the XO is angry that Pike has essentially promoted Kirk from cadet to captain of the finest starship in the fleet.

Spock was XO of the Enterprise in ST2009 only because the regular fleet was the Laurentian System. Many of the regular officers were simply not available on such short notice meaning that the Enterprise and the other ships called to respond to the emergency distress signal from Vulcan were cadets — including Kirk.

Spock may have decided that he needed to return to whatever remained of his roots, and to seek whatever was left of the Vulcan culture, by going on extended sabbatical (analogous to his sojourn on Vulcan in TMP).

Pike has been promoted to the admiralty and he has accepted the position in the belief that he can restore Starfleet’s character.

It’s further possible that Weller’s character, returning as XO of the Enterprise on a temporary assignment and desiring to usurp Kirk’s authority, engages in some kind of plan designed to discredit the young captain and vacate the captaincy of the Enterprise, allowing him to claim it for himself.

126. Vultan - December 7, 2011


Excellent point!

TWOK is an equal to all those great sequels.

127. N - December 7, 2011

I’m so confused, why does everyone expect it to be Khan? I mean, just because it’s the second film featuring TOS characters, so what? Honestly if all they can come up with was Khan again then the writers should be fired to make room for someone that could think of something new. XI was great so I have faith in them.

128. VulcanFilmCritic - December 7, 2011

Although individuals in the 23rd Century have a different relationship with money than we do, it’s always about “The Benjamins.”

Money rears it’s ugly head all the time in Star Trek, and it seems that the only people who have a lot of it are those involved with mining.
I believe that there were obnoxious “mining officials” who treated the Enterprise as if it were some kind of handmaiden and Kirk, while he could protest, had to defer to Starfleet regulations. Usually he’d find some clever way of doing an end run around them, though.

The miners themselves could strike it rich as mentioned in “Mudd’s Women” and “Devil in the Dark.” But it seems as though ordinary folks and even the members of Starfleet led rather modest lives.

Perhaps the term CEO falls too easily off people’s lips today when what exists in the 23rd Century are “high ranking officials” of mining companies or operations. Being obnoxious is probably a requirement of being hired by one of these companies.

That being said, this is dismal news. I would love to have seen Weller play something other than a run-of-the mill prick. Unless he’s an Andorian, I’m bored already. We’ve seen the megalomaniac CEO in “Robocop” who was played by Ronny Cox (whom Weller is beginning to resemble). We’ve seen the Prince-of-Darkness type of CEO in “Wall Street” and “Margin Call,” Michael Douglas and Jeremy Irons. But what we’ve never seen is the visionary type of CEO, Steve Jobs.

Although I can hope for the best, I fear the worst, that Weller is probably going to be the mustache-twirling Simon Legree-Aaron Semple-Snidely Whiplash type. Of course with an overlay of Nordic chill.

129. N - December 7, 2011

CEO could stand for anything, it’d make sense for it to not actually be literal like the CEO of a company, just something to stir the media-hornet’s nest.

130. Brett Campbell - December 7, 2011

96 – “The Two Towers” is not a sequel, just as “The Lord of the Rings” was never a trilogy in the strictest sense of the word. “Towers” was the second part of an epic tale told in three novels and three films. And the division of it into three novels had only to do with the paper shortage in Britain at the time of publication. Tolkien envisioned “Rings” as one long work that would have been bound in a single volume if it had been possible to do so on initial publication.

131. Craiger - December 7, 2011

Breaking News!!! Edgar Ramiez front runner to play villian in sequel.


132. Christopher Roberts - December 7, 2011

You would think they would be able to keep a lid on it, wouldn’t you?

Do bloggers hunt in packs? Out there looking for any and all hot latino supermen in L.A.? :-)

I’ll laugh if after this, the role cast isn’t actually Khan… but Colonel (El) Green(o) instead.

133. Brett Campbell - December 7, 2011

130 – Or a cryogenically frozen Generalissimo Francisco Franco.

They could begin with Chevy Chase reading a newscast:

“This just in — Generalissimo Francisco Franco is no longer still dead.”

134. NCM - December 7, 2011

116. Spock/Uhura Fan – December 7, 2011

Has anybody ever seen this:


That was funny. I remember reading the first editions of The Onion, when fellow UW-Madison students started it up. Thanks for sharin’.

135. Studio Covert Operative - December 7, 2011

@128 Craiger

The article confirms Khan will be in the movie based on the hispanic actors being sought out.

136. Drew - December 7, 2011

When casting for Lost, they would release bogus casting information… for example…”CEO, mid 40s, represents some shady clients”, which was a metaphor for “Guy in charge of the bad guys” and had jack and squat to do with business/corporations.

137. Alex Prewitt - December 7, 2011

Wow. Khan. I was hoping to see Chris Pine as Kirk kicking some ass in this new movie. Now I’m worried it will be like the last one–Kirk continually getting his ass kicked.

138. Craiger - December 7, 2011

#132 Still no official confirmation on Khan. #129 brings up a good point what if its Col. Green. I looked him up on Wikipedia and it states his fate is unknown maybe he got on a sleeper ship also?


139. MJ - December 7, 2011

@128. Craiger, good job breaking the story before Trekmovie.com — congrats! Man, I hope they go with Jordi Mola instead of Edgar Ramiez for Khan. Mola has the over-the-top style that Khan needs — he was great in Bad Boys II. Ramiez doesn’t seem that interesting.

Sorry Jai, it looks like Bollywood will be passed over for this one.

140. dmduncan - December 7, 2011

82. Bill Murray – December 7, 2011

Ha! Me too.

141. Craiger - December 7, 2011

Thanks, MJ. It’s weird Collider.com seems to scoop Trekmovie now. Makes me wonder if that site is better for Trek sequel news. Except this site lets you talk with Bob Orci and people involved with Trek.

142. Spock Jenkins - December 7, 2011

I hope IF Khan is in the new one, he’s reluctantly on Kirk’s side during the course of the movie and is left on the ‘paradisical’ Ceti Alpha V at the end. An after-credits sequence could show the explosion of Ceti Alpha VI, thereby dovetailing with, and not invalidating ST:TWOK…

Remember they are filming in Hawaii, to double as a famous Star Trek Location ( or was that the Los Angeles Library setting?? )…

143. Craiger - December 7, 2011

And you can chat with other Trek fans here about Trek.

144. Dee - lvs moon' surface - December 7, 2011

Well, Variety talked about that first… about Ramirez …

145. Phil - December 7, 2011

There is no confirmation on anything because there is no confirmation on a finished script! Think about it – the artists need to do storyboards for props and sets to be able do it’s thing, along with makeup if there are any prosethetics involved with that. Anything new to the story needs to be built from scratch, and that takes time. My best guess is that given the current schedule, this work would need to be underway now. This would also mean lots of people have seen a script/story, and there is no confirmation this has happened.

The movie will be made, but it’s even money that they start shooting in January.

146. MJ - December 7, 2011

@140. Phil, Phil, Phil. Of course the script is done. They are casting the parts now and filming will start the 2nd week of January. Khan is the main villain.

You have to read the clues and pay attention. These Supreme Court guys don’t release info “the normal way.” If you are expecting the usual “hand holding” press releases from these guys, you are going to be sorely disappointed.

147. Craiger - December 7, 2011

I read one comment I forgot if I read that on Collider’s comment section or some other comments section and one guy thought they are remaking Space Seed. I think his reasoning for probably was that in Wrath of Khan Spock dies unless they rewrite Wrath of Khan so Spock doesn’t die saving the Enterprise since its in a new universe.

148. sean - December 7, 2011


Unless the movie jumps ahead 20 years, it would have to be Space Seed. You need Space Seed in order for TWOK to make any sort of sense.

149. MJ - December 7, 2011

@142 @143 It will not be Space Seed, but will occur in roughly the same time as Space Seed. It will be much bigger in scope than Space Seed — an entirely different story.

150. N - December 7, 2011

Darn, someone stole my name on here.

151. Spock/Uhura Fan - December 7, 2011

@#131 NCM

Awesome. :-)

I’m glad you liked it.

152. MJ - December 7, 2011

Somebody at Trekmovie deleted a bunch of posts here???

153. combatkarl - December 7, 2011

What if Weller was tapped to play….Gary 7?

154. Peter Loader - December 7, 2011

Too old.

155. Sebastian S. - December 7, 2011

Peter Weller is a remarkable actor; he’ll do well whatever his role may be.
Here’s hoping it’s not just a retread of “Space Seed/Wrath of Khan.”

156. Kev-1 - December 7, 2011

Oops! I thought I had a comment in this thread but perhaps I’m mistaken.

157. Keachick - rose pinenut - December 7, 2011

The papz media think that because the guy they got to play an Indian character 44-45 years was of Hispanic descent, then if they are casting around for another Hispanic actor, it must automatically mean it must be Khan. So bereft of any imagination whatsoever. Then you have other posters claiming cleverness in that they are able to discern non-existent clues. It is a total farce…DUH.

Oh, and of course, I am forever a Chamberlain.

158. Geodesic - December 7, 2011

C.E.O. = Cybernetic Enhanced Organism. Sounds like Robocop is in the next movie!

159. number6 - December 7, 2011

Weller could be Captain Robert April.

160. David Jones/790 - December 7, 2011

So who do you guys think is going to play Sibok when we get to the 6th new Abrams vision?

161. Krazy Joe - December 7, 2011

This is going to suck if Khan is in it.

If there is one thing the fans have said over and over and over it is that we DON’T WANT KHAN!

If Khan is in this, it’ll be like a giant middle finger to the fans.

162. Yammer - December 8, 2011


It is a giant middle finger to the world, but in a good way, I think, a gleeful laugh and playing in the trek sandbox.

Do you truly not get that Abrams and Co are, by adopting wholesale all the glorious past of TOS, that they are the respectful ones and that it is Roddenberry who set up TNG that broke canon? I think that the craving for ‘new’ stories is all well and good, but then is that really what Trek is about? At this point Trek is a brand. It is like criticizing Campbell’s Soup for not introducing avant-garde Spanish molecular gastronomy. If you were that interested, you would not be depending on Trek for your cutting-edge SF ideas.

You’re mad at JJ because he is taking Trek out of its monastically complex and tedious history line and giving it out to the unwashed.

163. Moe - December 8, 2011

Why do you people insist on resurrecting old stories, characters and plots?

Kahn or any other re-run would SUCK. Just what we need – another movie with a guy with a grudge out for revenge. We had that already
with TWOK, Insurrection, Nemesis and ST 2009.

It is stale. Do something fresh or forget it.

164. RAMA - December 8, 2011

There are so many stories to tell…why Khan?

165. Hat Rick - December 8, 2011

Possibly, like Mount Everest, it’s there.

(Apologies to Edmund Hillary.)

166. John from Cincinnati - December 8, 2011

My guess is the next movie will flashback to the 1990’s and show the Eugenics wars in some form, and then segway into the new movie time period.

167. The Starfleet Veteran - December 8, 2011

For the love of God, take Star Trek away from JJ already. There’s gotta be someone out there that can give us a good Trek movie without having to create new timelines or go back to the past.

168. Jack - December 8, 2011

Weren’t there corporate signs on some of those nightmarish brutalist buildings in Trek 09’s San Fran skyline (vaguely recall reading it was one of those bad robot in-jokes I don’t understand… I forget which one)?

And, yep, I’m obsessed, since that Cronenberg movie about Freud and Jung, about the idea of Viggo Mortenson playing something in this movie or the next. So, Viggo! (not the ghostbusters villain, sadly).

166. Yes, and that top secret sleeper ship that was launched in 1996, with its computers run by Windows 95 ( which explains why all those sleep chambers eventually malfunction).

169. The Sky's The Limit - December 8, 2011

@ 153: “What if Weller was tapped to play….Gary 7?”

Now that’s an interesting twist. Peter Weller would fill that role comfortably.

Also, anyone consider that Alice Eve may fit the role of Ruth as briefly introduced as one of Kirk’s love interests from his youth in the episode “Shore Leave?”

Although, these roles cast in the same story make no sense, like everyone else, just wondering out loud here . . .

170. Pete from Pennsylvania - December 8, 2011

What if the Klingons discover the Botany Bay in this altered timeline instead of the Enterprise? Khan could plot his revenge against Earth for his 1996 exile by teeming up with Kang, Kor, or Koloth in the creation of a race of augmented Klingons. (Well, maybe not Koloth.)

171. Motu - December 9, 2011

They see it likes this…

Batman has The Joker
Superman has Lex Luthor
Kirk has Khan

172. Spock/Uhura Fan - December 9, 2011

@ #168

Oooh, I like the idea of Viggo Mortenson playing someone in this film!!!

He’s very versatile as an actor, and I think he’d fit in well. Now, good guy or bad guy. He’d be a good bad guy, but I think I’d like him to be good, perhaps a member of Starfleet even, like another captain… Oh, the possibilities. :-)

173. Let Them Eat Plomeek Soup - December 9, 2011


As a Vulcan maybe? I can see that. Ooh… :D

174. Spock/Uhura Fan - December 10, 2011


Mmm, I’d rather see him polished and without the prosthetics, but I’m sure he could pull it off. :-)

175. psytce - December 12, 2011

Ok this is a new “Universe” in which Kirk didn’t become the Captain the same way and this kind of means that “Space Seed” did not happen, so how can Khan be the new villain unless they do it in the “Space Seed” vein

176. Bob Tompkins - December 14, 2011

Peter Weller always plays a CEO, Star Trek Enterprise, 24, just to name a couple…

177. Bob Tompkins - December 14, 2011

I hope they don’t make Khan a product of the Weller CEO. Khan is already in space asleep on the Botany Bay during the first adventure. To have him created by Weller would be a totally schizoid break in the timeline.
To have Weller a CEO who wants to take control of Khan after hi
s rescue might work, but they’d need to tread very carefully. Khan would be after all the same person, not open to any but the most minor alterations.

178. Rob T - January 10, 2012

Why cant he be an actual, as -we-know-it CEO? In this timeline, as much as I hate it, companies are still around. Budwieser and Nokia are both seen/mentioned and so still around so he could very easily be a CEO of a company.

I hate the idea of it lol It’s not MY Trek, but then this whole timeline really isnt MY Trek so whatever.

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