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Pegg Remains Mum On Star Trek Sequel Plot + Poll: Too Much Trek Secrecy March 24, 2012

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Celebrity,ST09 Cast,Star Trek Into Darkness , trackback

This week we reported that director JJ Abrams has literally erected a wall around location shooting on the Star Trek sequel. And in the latest comment from Simon Pegg (aka the new Scotty) shows that this quest to maintain the film experience has been "installed" into the actors as well. See Pegg’s latest comment below and sound off in our new poll on Star Trek’s secrecy.

 

Pegg remains mum about Star Trek plot

While talking to Total Film about his upcoming thriller A Fantastic Fear Of Everything, the mag tried to get something out of him on the Star Trek sequel currently in production. Here is all Simon had to offer:

"It’s all about space….It’s about the final frontier. And the one before it. I know it’s boring, but one thing JJ installed in all of us is the importance of giving the audience everything they can get from the experience itself."

Apparently Pegg is so enamored with JJ’s total secrecy approach, that he plans to apply it to the final film in his "Three Flavors of Cornetto" trilogy. The follow up to Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz titled The World’s End is set to shoot later this year, but Pegg says that we shouldn’t expect leaks from that set either, noting:

“When we do World’s End we’re not going to do blogs from the set, which we did with Hot Fuzz and Paul, because we want to maintain some mystique."

Pegg’s interview for A Fantastic Fear Of Everything (opening on 8 June 2012) will appear in a future issue of Total Film.

By the way, Pegg will be appearing on Conan on Tuesday.


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Comments

1. Harry Ballz - March 24, 2012

I like how Pegg comes across like a fanboy. Good for him!

2. Craiger - March 24, 2012

Over in the live chat someone said that Aint It Cool News says Cumberbatch looks like a catlike otter in the leaked photos and the person in live chat thought maybe a Kzinti?

I wonder if the sequel is based on the Kzinti? I found this at Memory Alpha. I know the Animated Series isn’t canon but maybe they based the sequel on this?

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Kzinti

In 2269, Dr. Keniclius 5 cited the Kzinti’s ongoing rivalry with Earth as a reason for the necessity of eugenics experiments to improve the human breed. (TAS: “The Infinite Vulcan”)

3. Bucky - March 24, 2012

I think Abrams’ level of Super Nuclear Secrecy is a bit much. Like, don’t spoil everything, and I don’t even need blogs, but an official set and/or character photo wouldn’t hurt. Like as soon as Dark Knight Rises Catwoman photos leaked, bam!, Warner Brothers & Nolan post a very nice looking official one later.

There’s a fine line between enticing the audience, revealing too much that the experience itself is ruined, and holding so much back that you start to actively aggravate fans. They’ve been shooting a new Star Trek movie for over two months now or so, would a picture of just somebody sitting at the bridge really destroy the moviegoing experience?

4. Caesar - March 24, 2012

#3: Like.

5. Captain Karl - March 24, 2012

#3 it just shows how full of himself he is…muwahahahahaaaaa!

6. Joel - March 24, 2012

Aside from a few spy pics and confirmation from the cast that they’re shooting, it feels like there is no movie. I know that’s ridiculous, but it would be nice to have an official photo or two. Guess we’ll have to wait for shooting to wrap!

7. Captain Jack Bauer - March 24, 2012

Shaun of the Dead. Sorry, pet peeve.

8. Michael Hall - March 24, 2012

@1 Harry Ballz:

“I like how Pegg comes across like a fanboy. Good for him!”

Pegg very much is a fanboy, though much more so for STAR WARS than Trek. In his recent showbiz memoir he goes on page after page about his love for the first triogy, and awesome disappointment in THE PHANTOM MENACE, while mentioning the 2009 blockbuster he co-starred in not once.

9. Craiger - March 24, 2012

I thought the movie Paul was funny.

10. TrekkerChick - March 24, 2012

@2

Kzin would be a nice species, but I’d be willing to wait (and wait, and wait, and wait, ad infinitum) to a (**sigh**) movie about the Known Space universe: Puppeteers, Kzin, Outsiders, Bandersnatchi (big sigh) and/or the last of the Pak.

A hat tip to Known Universe species – or planets (We Made It, Jinx, Canyon) – wouldn’t be so bad, however.

11. CarlG - March 24, 2012

I dunno, one part of me wants to go into the next movie without knowing every plot point and emotional moment in advance so I can be properly thrilled, chilled, and spilled, and the other part of me wants to know everything about everything NOW!

Ah, the endless balancing act of the fanboy… :)

12. They Give Away Everything in the Trailers - March 24, 2012

Its one thing to give away tidbits of info via pictures and whatnot, but the movie trailers, themselves, give away more then should be expected.

The final trailer of the first movie gave away too much of the movie. Kirk’s origins, the destruction of the Kelvin, Spocks meltdown, etc.

The better trailers are the ones that give you abstract images that make you wonder..wha? huh? whats that? Maybe after the movie has opened awhile do you show more and talk more about the movie plot.

13. Red Dead Ryan - March 24, 2012

You know, the very first teaser trailer featured the construction of the Enterprise, with quotes from JFK and Eisenhower, alongside Leonard Nimoy’s monologue. It had the tagline, “Under Construction”.

Maybe they can do something similar this time around. Have shots of the Enterprise undergoing repairs in Spacedock, with a few more famous quotes, and Chris Pine delivering the monologue at the end.

With the tagline “The Adventure Continues”

14. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - March 24, 2012

Well. I think a little bit is ok. But don’t give to much away. Mist of the movie going public will be good with what ever is given. But we hard core Trek fans go crazy with any thing. I just can’t wait to see the Trailors. They will be a lot of fun to pick apart.

15. njdss4 - March 24, 2012

Don’t give away too much, but please give us just a tiny bit of something at ComiCon. Even if it’s not a teaser trailer, just a panel with some bits of info would be amazing. I’m still nervous about the plot for this upcoming movie. I want it to be great!

16. Dee - lvs moon' surface - March 24, 2012

I voted… “OK – but how about just a little morsel”… and is everything I can talk about it… ;-) :-)

17. pilotfred - March 24, 2012

i so agree with the comments please don’t spoil it by giving loads away however a few pictures here and there so instead of rubbish pictures leaked on line we can see some great pictures which you can control

18. "Check the Circuit!" - March 24, 2012

IMHO…the occasional morsel is what builds anticipation and keeps us coming back to sites like this. But I definitely don’t want to know major plot points ahead of time. I want the full experience of the unknown at that first midnight showing.

19. captain_neill - March 24, 2012

I like to know enough to know that Abrams has not screwed things up much more than he already had but other than that I don’t like to know everything.

20. Red Dead Ryan - March 24, 2012

#19.

Let it go already! If you want the Prime Universe, well, you’ve got hundreds of hours of it on dvd/blu-ray, and thousands of books and comics to enjoy.

21. Thomas - March 24, 2012

I’m as curious as anyone regarding what’s going on, but it’s tempered by the simple fact that J.J. is not required to show us anything beforehand. He is no more bound to show his cards than we are entitled to see them, and vice versa. Admittedly, he may be fighting a losing battle (against fan self-entitlement, among other things) but I guess it can’t be said that J.J. wouldn’t go down swinging.

22. VZX - March 24, 2012

No, I think more is better. For example, I am far more excited about The Hobbit mostly because of Peter Jackson’s video blogs. They really get me stoked about the movie. Also, those spy pics and video of this Trek movie get me a little more interested in it.

I want to know a movie is good before I spend my $20 on seeing it theaters. I don’t have a lot of cash to waste on crappy movies.

23. Trekker5 - March 24, 2012

JJ,look,I love ya man but you need to take a chill pill!! We need something every now and again to keep us excited and ready. Well,we’ve been ready for,like,years now but still;give us a little bit to chew on please!

24. boborci - March 24, 2012

I accidently tweeted the identity of the bad guy but managed to erase it before anyone saw it.

25. BB43MAN - March 24, 2012

Keep it up, JJ! Build those container walls higher! I don’t want to know shit about this film until the day I buy my ticket and watch it for the first time. AND, I don’t need to see some “super secret” pics taken by some unemployed fanboy loser (who probably rips open his X-mas presents on the 19th of December every year) with a telephoto lens from half a mile away to get me to get ramped up about this film. The first movie should be a primer for you folks to know that JJ and his crew won’t let us down, not “Awwww, no more fuzzy distance pics of gray-collared uniforms???? THAT’S UNFAIR, JJ!!!” Oh, and JJ, if you’re listening, more lens flares! LOL!!

26. Red Dead Ryan - March 24, 2012

#24.

Khan.

27. Red Dead Ryan - March 24, 2012

#25.

You can always avoid this site if you don’t want any tidbits, info, pix, etc.

Just sayin’…

28. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - March 24, 2012

Hey Bob Orci. Who was it?. Oh I know. Bob Orci is the real and I mean Real! bad guy of all of Star Trek. Oh it’s True. Right Bob.

29. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - March 24, 2012

Hey Ryan. As MCcoy would say. You have pointed out the obvious.
But. Some people. Well. They are just not as smart as you or I.

30. WellOfSouls - March 24, 2012

Sorry to hear about you accidently tweeting the identity of the bad guy Bob.Good catch….What was it again that you managed to erase? hahaha

31. Harry Ballz - March 24, 2012

24.

How can someone “accidently” tweet something??

Sounds about as plausible as that Italian cruise ship captain who said he tripped and fell into a lifeboat when the ship was sinking!

32. Rocket Scientist - March 24, 2012

Could it be…MONGO?? :-)

33. Mr. Marketing - March 24, 2012

Here’s an analogy. [And, I pray this is not viewed as sexist because I am not.]

In terms of creating excitement, I think a stripper who is on a stage to strip is less interesting just standing there with clothes on, doing nothing, than one who reveals a small measured amount, a little bit at a time. The more revealed, the more exciting the strip becomes. Each reveal, builds excitement.

Not asking for JJ to show us everything, just a little skin. LOL. What you show, and don’t show is how you build excitement. Showing nothing does not. I don’t think Abrams understands this. Revealing nothing could have the opposite effect and create frustration and boo’s rather than the intended suspense and interest.

34. Craiger - March 24, 2012

Was Bob being sarcastic? Or did he actually tweet the bad guy? Bob why all the secrecy on the bad guy? Don’t you know we know the bad guys of the superhero movies coming out this Summer and I don’t think that spoils them?

35. Craiger - March 24, 2012

I am like Sheldon on BBT sometimes I don’t get sarcasm.

36. Dr. Cheis - March 24, 2012

Don’t feel bad, Bob. Anthony Weiner did something similar, and things worked out for him, right?

37. Dr. Cheis - March 24, 2012

Regarding the secrecy:

I feel like I knew too much about the first movie before I actually saw it, particularly how Spock Prime played into it, and how the old timeline worked with the new timeline. Part of that was unavoidable because of fan confusion and outcry over fear of our favorite franchise being ruined, and part of it was because the trailers all made the movie seem like a rock’em-sock’em action flick with little to do with Star Trek.

As for the photos of the new movie that have been leaked, I felt like these were good “morsels” to show us. It shows us 2 or 3 people in at some location, that thanks to the reliance on special effects, we can’t even tell what it was. (Trying to be vague here in case anybody didn’t want to look at the pictures and be spoiled) I have little idea what this scene is about. There’s some sort of conflict. If this movie had no conflict it would be bland, so that’s no spoiler there.

Now if, as it happened, that scene was the climax of the movie, I might spend most of the movie waiting for the scene I saw in the photos knowing it has to happen eventually, then when they get to a similar looking structure, I’d have some idea who will and will not be present. So that might be a little distracting, but overall I still don’t know what to make of the thing.

People commented on the new uniforms. I think this is something they should actually go out of their way to advertise. The Dark Knight pretty much bragged about the new Batman suit. It’s a physical detail that we can focus on and get excited about that doesn’t tell us much about the plot. In the case of TDK, it told us nothing; we didn’t even know if they were going to explain the change (they did). In the case of Trek, they may have to tell us a little more if the uniforms are situational, but I think they could get away with being vague without ruining anything.

38. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - March 24, 2012

Malapropism Alert: “instilled” not “installed” Simon

39. PEB - March 24, 2012

The secrecy isn’t that big of a deal. I think people just want to be in Tue 3rd act of the pre-release. We want teasers and full trailers to analyze and press junket interviews to watch where even if they don’t talk about he story, they talk in depth about their characters. Most importantly, we want a title to discuss. So yea, the secrecy is fine (especially compared to the latter trek films Where I could watch Access Hollywood or a long trailer and get the full plot). I just want more “stuff” to feast on.

40. PEB - March 24, 2012

Oh and I’m not a bad speller. This evil “smart” phone just thinks it knows what I’m really wanting to type. One day I’m sure it’ll try to assimilate me.

41. VZX - March 24, 2012

Wait, you can erase Tweets? Crap, if I only knew that before I got busted….

42. Fueled by Armus - March 24, 2012

I don’t want to know everything, in fact, I don’t want more than a few pictures and whatnot. I don’t need to know plot!

It might sound ridiculous, but it just seems cold and unfriendly to put up a freaking wall of trailers. No, JJ isn’t required to share anything, but putting up a blockade sends just as strong a message as “Here’s a photo of Kirk and Spock” or some other established fact that wouldn’t be spoiler-y. (Kirk and Spock are in the next film, right? =p)

I don’t necessarily feel *entitled*, just the fact that someone is willing to go so far to deny people of a possible unauthorized image that might not necessarily even be a spoiler is just…nutty.

43. VZX - March 24, 2012

BTW: Speaking of JJ’s secrecy, I like how boborci is doing an Enders Game production blog on Tumblr. Heh, JJ should take notes.

Ender’s Game was a great series, I’m interested to see the film adaptation.

44. Commodore Redshirt - March 24, 2012

@ 3. Bucky – “…would a picture of just somebody sitting at the bridge really destroy the moviegoing experience?”

I agree 100%! We all know Spock has pointed ears, we know who the main actors are, we know what the Enterprise looks like in orbit, etc… so just a little taste would go a long way to building excitement…
On the other hand, when the first ‘official” photos come out there will be a massive spike in fan activity! And perhaps that is the buzz JJ wants.

45. montreal_paul - March 24, 2012

22. VZX

I have ABSOLUTELY NO interest in seeing any of those video blogs. I hate when too much information comes out… why bother see the movie then?? Movie trailers give too much away as it is.

I don’t understand people that want to see everything about a movie before it even comes out. Where is the magic? Sometimes you go to see a movie and it is crap… sometimes you go and it is great. I have actually gone to the box office after half hour of sitting in a crappy movie and got my money back.

This whole Peter Jackson video blog is to try and raise interest so people will see the movie. There is hardly any talk about the Hobbit movies and the video blogs are the only thing getting people to talk about the movie.

With the Trek movie, even without “leaks”, people are talking… talking about why JJ is being so secretive, who this person is, why they won’t leak anything, etc.

Way to go JJ… keep up the great work!

46. VZX - March 24, 2012

42. Ok, Paul, to each his own, then. You don’t have to watch the blogs, but millions do.

Trailers are supposed to sell the movie by letting audiences know what the movie is about. Case in point: John Carter. The trailers (as with the entire marketing) failed to let the world know what the film was about. Now the John Carter movie will not even cross the $100 mill mark.

I can’t afford to just see any movie. It’s great you got your money back, where I live they’d just laugh at you for asking….

47. BB43MAN - March 24, 2012

I’ve seen a lot of “just a taste, JJ” or “just a morsel, JJ” comments in the last few posts since I’ve posted my last. Just a “taste” or “morsel”? What is this….a crack users rehab meeting? The movie posters and the trailer should be the only “taste” someone “needs”. Ah, I remember the heady days of 1977 when all Star Wars had was their trailer and movie poster. No “spoilers’ from an “inside source” No “from the set” videos. No chump with a long-range lens taking pics to satisfy….whatever they’re out to satisfy. For those who beg for a “one picture of the bridge won’t hurt anything” argument……if that’s the case then what’s next? More of the bridge? A pic of the new uniform wouldn’t hurt, right? A pic of the new enemy’s uniform, right? That wouldn’t hurt. How about a pic of the new engine room. That wouldn’t spoil anything,…..right? How about a pic of a new fight scene or how about a pic of the final fight at the end when the enemy gets killed? That wouldn’t spoil anything……right? Right.

And for those who easily comment “you don’t have to come here”. That’s correct, however, I didn’t click on this thread to see spoilers. In fact, I clicked on it to read how Simon Pegg is adopting an experienced director’s (JJ’s) take on privacy for his project. Get that…”his” project. A work of art, if you will. Not to have his work of art “spoiled” by someone who can’t wait to find out EVERYTHING they can about a movie made by someone who wants to keep it a surprise. These comments by me are in reply to the “let’s see some pics” comments by others.

Ask yourselves this: Would you spoil the surprise by barging in on your wife-to-be just before she walks down the aisle? Would you rip open your X-Mas gifts just as your folks place them under the tree? If your children were preparing a surprise B-Day cake for you, and you knew about it as most parents do, would you burst in to spoil their surprise because you just HAD to know what the cake looked like? Would you tell them “Well, spoilers never bothered me…..and I don’t like chocolate!”

I would hope not. Come on, folks, let JJ have his secrecy. When the flik comes out, go with your buddies, or family and enjoy the ride! It’s better that way. Trust me. If you don’t like the flik when you see it, get your money back. I’ve done that in the past. Works fine.

48. montreal_paul - March 24, 2012

43. VZX

First off, it’s Cineplex policy that if a customer is not happy with the movie that they will refund their money.

Secondly, John Carter is not doing well because of the marketing and because the movie title does not give a person any idea what the movie is. Who is John Carter? The original title for the books is “John Carter of Mars.” I saw the movie, extremely well done.

Lastly, trailers are meant to tease the movie to audiences. To intrigue them so they will go see what the movie is. Trailers are not meant to give away the movie.

Oh, and, millions??? I beg to differ. Um, more like a couple tens of thousands. Millions do not watch the video blogs.

49. Red Dead Ryan - March 24, 2012

The bean counters at Disney decided to drop “Mars” from “John Carter” because they feared a repeat of “Mars Needs Moms”, which was a total flop at the box office. So the fact that JC bombed is merely an inadvertent, unintentional, and ironic self-fulfilled prophecy caused by some suit at Disney causing the very same disaster he/she was supposedly trying to avoid. Kind of like how Anakin Skywalker turned to the dark side of the force to save Padme from the very same fate he ends up bestowing upon her in the end. It would have made more money (if not recoup its cost) had better marketing been in place.

You know, I think when JC hits Blu Ray, I might just check it out. The reviews on this site from several posters have been more positive than those of a number of critics.

50. Red Dead Ryan - March 24, 2012

BTW, I forgot to mention that Disney somehow blamed the lack of success of “Mars Needs Moms” on the fact that “Mars” was in the title, as opposed the fact that most people who saw the movie thought it was terrible, and that word of mouth spread.

51. Red Dead Ryan - March 24, 2012

Some of these studio execs are total idiots. Who the hell did they lick/blow to land those jobs in Hollywood? They seem to think they know better than the rest of us, but clearly, a lot of them don’t seem to understand Marketing 101.

52. montreal_paul - March 24, 2012

46. Red Dead Ryan

I would recommend JOHN CARTER. It was very well done. The computer animation was excellent. The acting was very good. A very good and imaginative story.

It was definitely a marketing problem. Just like Beta & VHS…. Beta was a far better format that was still used in broadcasting up to a few years ago. VHS had better marketing and won out commercially. But I may be dating myself now.

53. Jeff - March 24, 2012

Maybe J.J. isn’t sure the movie is good, or thinks it will only be good if it’s a surprise; like The Matrix or Super 8.

Course with both of those I waited until it was available on DVD before watching, to save money, since I couldn’t predict whether the story would be of interest to me or not.

54. Red Dead Ryan - March 24, 2012

#50.

Interesting that you mentioned “The Matrix”. Prior to release, I didn’t know anything about it. There was little hype, certainly not in comparison to “Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace”, which would be released two months later. I waited a couple of weeks before seeing it, after watching some tv ads, which weren’t really all that spectacular. I thought it looked like a good action movie, so I went not really expecting much more than that. Boy, I was blown away. The movie featured cool effects never seen before, and I thought the action scenes really raised the bar, and good acting from everybody, including Keanu Reaves. I was really glad I went. I knew right then and there that it was an instant classic.

55. montreal_paul - March 24, 2012

50. Jeff
“Maybe J.J. isn’t sure the movie is good, or thinks it will only be good if it’s a surprise…”

Say what?!? That is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. The only reason JJ is Directing is BECAUSE of the good script. If he didn’t have faith in it being a good movie… he wouldn’t have decided to Direct.

You know, some Directors and Filmmakers want the audience to have that “Oh my God!” moment … to be wowed by seeing something (for the first time) on the big screen and not on some website.

56. Buzz Cagney - March 24, 2012

I can wait. I’m kind of busy just having a life right now anyway.

57. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 24, 2012

How do you save money by buying the DVD of a movie, unless of course, you wait for months, perhaps a year or so, when it comes down in price? DVDs here are always more expensive when they first hit the retail shops than the adult price of a movie ticket (NZ$16.50). You can hire the DVD on certain days at a discounted rate (depends on retailer), but you still have to wait several months before the DVD is released.

#24 – LOL. Such a tease… It is obvious we still need to have that little chat…:)

58. Jack - March 24, 2012

52. Agreed.

50. That gets said a lot on here. And I don’t get it.

I keep repeating myself. But, again, the movie is a year away. They’re really busy making the darned thing.

And what’s the point of any secrecy at all (and it’s a hell of a lot of work to protect with huge casts and crews, and with everybody with a camera-phone, facebook and twitter) if paps are taking photos of filming?

It’s a huge effort — and media sites want to know not because they care, really, but simply because it’s a secret. And the actors of most of these spill te beans while trying to give a non-answer answer. I wish they’d just shut up and say ‘we can’t talk about it.’

Heck. People were insanely trying to get spoilers for the Harry Potter books, especially the media — and they weren’t doing it out of selflessness and dedication to fans. The secrecy certainly didn’t hurt book sales.

These exact same arguments (JJ doesn’ think it’s any good) were used on this site, constantly,before the last movie, because we hadn’t been shown tonnes of spoiler photos.

You want to see what it’s about? Go see the movie.

But really, to the people complaining? What exactly do you want to see? And why do yo uthink you have a right to know?

Why do you need to know who Cumberbatch is playing, a year before you’ll see the darned movie? Either it will be a huge plot spoiler, or it will be a name that won’t matter at all.

I don’t think we appreciate how much work goes into keeping something like this quiet. All it would take is a leaked facebook post by somebody on staff, who thought their fb friends would keep it all secret.

Hell, look at Stephen Fry being asked, politely, to remove set photos (of sets we’d seen before) of the last Harry Potter that he’d tweeted while on the lot for something else.

Really, though, what will knowing the details be of benefit to fans or moviegoers, other than letting us gripe on here about how disappointed we are that it sounds stupid and isn’t Star Trekky enough?

59. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 25, 2012

I find it *funny* that it should be of all people, Simon Pegg, who is now saying what he’s saying…LOL This guy has been one of the biggest chatter-boxes of all – eloquently saying terrific amounts of nothing for months, years now, re the sequel. He really thinks he can actually keep quiet for long about his own project(s)?

Honestly, what is this guy on?

Oh, for a quiet fine *conifer*. Now that man doesn’t feel the need to say anything – it’s just that one day the Pine guy features in an Ivy Walls video of the new song “All I Want”. Who knew? Clearly only those who needed to know until the time was right…

60. captain_neill - March 25, 2012

20

Despite my gripes with changes I still am looking forward to the next movie.

61. Jack - March 25, 2012

Er, sorry for being a bit militant. Some people want to know what’s going on, fair enough.

But… as for the folks who say, well, if you don’t want spoilers, well, don’t look for them (ie. don’t leave the house, go on the computer, open a newspaper, turn on your tv or radio, or talk to anyone, ever, between now and next year). Well, spoilers tend to find you.

59. I wonder of the “shut up at least until we’re finished, already” policy had, say, Pegg, Quinto and Saldana in mind. ;)

And, to talk about this honestly — seeing stuff without context (or even with it) can really put one off from seeing something.

For example, I wasn’t wowed by either the casting or the leaked costume photos of Hathaway as Catwoman/Kyle. I’m sure once its out and there are great reviews, if there are, I’ll change my mind and go see it. But, right now, from the little bits I’ve seen (including that Bane bit that ran with MI4, and the stuff in the teasers, especially Gordon in a hospital bed) I’m really not that interested in this next Batman movie.

Like I said, this will probably change for me when it comes out (and with Dark Knight, I really was interested in how Ledger would handle the joker). This might just be me — but I gotta say that the trailers for both Prometheus and the new Spider-Man dampened my excitement over both. I feel with both like I’ve already seen a lot of the movie.

I liked that the Trek 09 stuff focused on the parts we mostly knew would be there (we knew it was an origin story, so we got little glimpses of the stuff in the first half hour) but, mostly, that was it (if I’m remembering correctly). By all means, gimme the very general premise or set up in advance…

There was some radio show last week about trailers giving too much away and the example given was Castaway, from years ago, where they’d originally done a trailer at first that just showed Hanks getting ready for the trip and promising to be right back and then — alone in the ocean after the crash. And apparently it tested horribly, so they put out one that basically told the entire story, including him being rescued in the end (perhaps, I should have written spoiler alert, but, see, you never know)…

PS. 43. And we know the premise, story there/ or can easily look it up. And, they do need to build buzz for it/interest in it from fans and nonfans…

62. Dom - March 25, 2012

I remember the generation of posters here in the era leading up to the last movie complaining about the lack of trailers and so on. But when we did get them, it felt so much sweeter.

An I remember there being so many ‘making of’ shows about Who Framed Roger Rabbit when I was a kid that when it came to seeing the film, I couldn’t be bothered as I’d already seen most of it!

There’s a long time to wait until Star Trek 2 hits the cinema. Be patient … Good things will come soon enough! ;)

63. Battle-scarred Sciatica - March 25, 2012

:)

64. Battle-scarred Sciatica - March 25, 2012

Whoops!…..a leak…..

65. chrisfawkes.com - March 25, 2012

I loved Hot Fuzz. Great movie and the best i’ve seen Dalton in too.

66. Trekboi - March 25, 2012

The Secrecy around the new film is ridiculesss- it made sense with the first movie because it was all new but we have seen it all now & anything new will ultimately come out before the movie opens so just start promoting it now.

67. Hugh Hoyland - March 25, 2012

I actually viewed Bob’s tweet before he deleted it, as a fan I feel its my duty to let the entire Trekker family know who the villain is.

Its my duty! Knowledge is power! No more secrets!

Here it is.

The villain for Star Trek 2 is…….

“COMPUTER CRASHES”

68. The Last Vulcan - March 25, 2012

@24 Thanks Bob for teaching us all that Tweets can be recalled. Just a touch of red matter, some swinging around a star at hyperwarp and POOF, Tweet’s gone! :)

Here are some facts that can’t be recalled as per my secret insider’s source: The Last Vulcan’s brain trained on almost four decades of working in this crazy industry:

Cumby is either an alien or a human with prosthetics. The leak pix are totally staged to misdirect from this fact. Furthermore, there will be no trace of the JJ-ST1 unis. JJ showed that he only included them for continuity and familiarity when he had Kirk in the black “undershirt” for most of JJ-ST1. They’re dated and silly in the JJverse, so watch for the gunmetal gray overalls with the tiny flash of section color on the right shoulder. Peter Weller is playing a corporate executive just like I’m Angelina Jolie. Come on Trek fans… what was the “working title” for JJ-ST1? See?

When JJ-ST2 is released everyone can thank me for my outstanding perspicacity. :)

69. Trekker5 - March 25, 2012

#24,Oh my God Mr.Orci!! If your not just yankin’ our chain and really did that,oh boy!! If any one had seen it your butt would be sooo fired!! As much as I’d love to know I’m glad you erased it. On that info,I can wait till the movie. ;)

70. Amish Electrician - March 25, 2012

Peeps gotta stop comparing the Hobbit and next trek movie trailers..only someone that can not read knows how the Hobbit ends…now this movie is a new story….

71. La Reyne d'Epee - March 25, 2012

Now Mr Orci, if that were the case, we could sashay over to the American Library of Congress, which is archiving every tweet ever made, apart from protected ones…

72. VZX - March 25, 2012

I still think that there is too much secrecy with this movie and I feel that it will affect the box office. 21 Jump Street is a good example of how a movie is supposed to be marketed, IMHO. I’ll paste this from boxofficemojo:

“The marketing for 21 Jump Street was a textbook example of how to sell a movie properly. Early and often, the trailers and commercials clearly laid out the premise, defined the main characters and unleashed a solid number of jokes. It didn’t hurt that the movie starred likeable actors Jonah Hill and Channing Tatum, and that it was actually pretty good—it generated lots of buzz from word-of-mouth screenings held around the country over the past few months, and it was also well-received by critics (87 percent fresh on Rotten Tomatoes).”

73. T'Cal - March 25, 2012

Total secrecy is hardly the sign of an intelligent producer. Any fool can demand that absolutely nothing is leaked.That in itself creates a limited amount of buzz at first….and ire from long time fans as well as disinterest from the rest of the potential audience.

Managing the flow of information so that just enough gets out at just the right time so that it not only whets the appetite of the fans but it also generates buzz among casual move goers is the sign of a really skilled and intelligent producer. I’m not seeing the latter here.

74. Dac - March 25, 2012

What Peter Jackson has done with the Hobbit blogs was pretty fantastic. It made me want the movie more than just seeing nothing.

75. Chain of Command - March 25, 2012

I don’t see the problem with a few pictures making their way to the public. It will only promote more interest in the film.

76. Captain Gorn - March 25, 2012

I wouldn’t mind a few non-spoilery pictures, but ultimately the main thing I want is an awesome movie in 2013.

I do NOT want major spoilers. Especially for really dramatic/emotional moments in the movie. Obviously there are things that will have to be revealed, but it’s still a shame that we knew so much about the last one before it was released. Just think how much more amazing it would have been to have no idea Leonard Nimoy was in the movie. I realise that was something they had to announce, especially as it generated a lot of interest, but it would still have been great to go to the theater and not know we were going to see the original Spock.

So… no spoilers for me, thanks.

77. Newman - March 25, 2012

Throw me a frikkin’ bone here JJ!

78. Dee - lvs moon' surface - March 25, 2012

#24. …LOL … Oh boborci… could you tell us then accidentally when debut the first trailer for Welcome to “People Like Us” … ;-) :-)

79. DeShonn Steinblatt - March 25, 2012

47. “What is this….a crack users rehab meeting?”

Heh-heh. I was just wondering what these people are going to do with themselves when the franchise comes to an end for real.

80. montreal_paul - March 25, 2012

The thing that gets me is that people are whining about getting some “morsels” or “tidbits” … the did! The got pictures that were leaked… but they are STILL not happy. No matter how much they are given, it will never be enough. To each their own. But I personally like going into a movie not knowing anything about it. I want to walk out of the movie being blown away. I want to be surprised when I sit down with my popcorn & coke.

81. Craiger - March 25, 2012

Why is knowing who the bad guy is a spoiler? They can at least give us that much.

82. Craiger - March 25, 2012

Are they thinking they don’t want us to know if its Khan Trek fans would know how the sequel ends? If it is Khan they could do a twist with Khan so we wouldn’t know how it ends.

83. Basement Blogger - March 25, 2012

Holy cow. The teenager saga, The Hunger Games, just kicked teenage vampire movie, Twilight, in the fangs at the box office. Bad Robot has already injected Star Wars into Star Trek. Maybe they should inject more teenagers into Star Trek. Hmm.

Script rewrite. Chekov who is the teenager on the ship goes to planet inhabited by teenage vampire aliens. He falls in love with one of the female vampire aliens. The vampires don’t trust Chekov so they make him fight another female vampire, who he also has feelings for. . Teenage love triangle. Voila. Box office gold. Yeah, I know. Kirk usually gets the girl. But by the time Star Trek 2013 comes out, Kirk is in his late twenties. God forbid, maybe he’s thirty. Too old. ;-)

Bob Orci, I keeed. I keeed. By the way, the fight to the death was done smarter in TOS “Arena.”

84. P Technobabble - March 25, 2012

HOW many movies have you gone to see that you didn’t know a single thing about? IMO, knowing anything about a movie before you see it adds nothing, other than spoiling. Personally, I want to be completely surprised when I go to see a movie.
That said, I have no doubt that once the opening date gets closer we’ll have vast amounts of prior info about the film. I’m gonna try doing the “see no evil, hear no evil” thing.

85. Commodore Redshirt - March 25, 2012

47. BB43MAN you said: “Ah, I remember the heady days of 1977 when all Star Wars had was their trailer and movie poster. No “spoilers’ from an “inside source”…”
WRONG. Well I remember those days too and as I recall, there was a lot of material out before the film opened. There was a Marvel Comic movie adaptation that I had read at least the first issue. (The film came out in may of 1977, the first issue of the comic in April (dated July on the cover as all Marvel titles were dated 3 months later). I think I may have even had issue #2 before I saw the movie.
I also read Starlog and was quite familiar with what I was going to see… and it was OK! I enjoyed the movie! Nothing I had read or seen distracted from the “Wow!” of watching that movie.

86. Battle-scarred Sciatica - March 25, 2012

I hate the ubersecrecy.
At times it shows how little JJ understands the Star Trek holistically.
Don’t get me wrong, Star Trek Wars was good but I am now becoming less and less interested in ST 12.
Nope he doesn’t “owe” us anything but a little acknowledgement of fan- hood would be nice!

87. mojomonkey - March 25, 2012

I so wish they’d cast someone other than Pegg :P

He’s all wrong for Scotty.

He plays Scotty like some ADD hyper chess club kid.

And Scott was supposed to be a big bear of a man who could beat the crap out of a Klingon. Pegg is a wiry little weasel.

Awful. Truly, mind numbingly awful…

88. c3l3st0 - March 25, 2012

i personally don´t check the internet for the story, if i can´t wait to see it in cine. anyway it´s a normal business tactics. let´s wait for the cine.

as for the cast…a lot of the cast for XI and XII were/are the wrong people for the job.

89. Mr. Marketing - March 25, 2012

#48, #49

Yes. Marketing and the studio dumping the movie before it was released, contributed to JCs demise, but other factors contributed as well–many of which have been mentioned in the press. A few things that haven’t been brought up a lot is that this movie would be hard to register with a significant portion of contemporary audiences because of the cheese factor (muscle-bound hero and semi-nude heroine), and the ridiculous concept of civilizations on Mars 150 years ago.

Maybe fan boys, people who live in a fantasy world already, children, nerds, bookworms, fantasy buffs, sci-fi buffs, druggies, etc., will buy into it. The more grounded will find it harder to accept a live action film like this–unless, maybe if it was much better written, or original, which this film is not. When you spend 350 million on a movie, you need a large audience, and one at least able to buy into a more solid premise than what is in JC–even if it is fantasy.

90. Sebastian S. - March 25, 2012

The powers-that-be would be wise to remember that a few more nuggets of information could only build interest, not subtract from it.
Tear down the wall, JJ! ;-P

There’s no such thing as ‘bad press'; unless, of course, you’re Disney and your campaign for “John Carter” (a good film, by the way) completely misses the mark. They didn’t even play up the fact that it was Pixar’s first live-action film! Shame. It’s a good movie (maybe not worth $250 million, but good nevertheless…).

91. Jack - March 25, 2012

80. Exactly!

86. “At times it shows how little JJ understands the Star Trek holistically.”

What does this mean? I really lose patience with this whole jj doesn’t get it thing — why can’t we just say we don’t like something, instead of starting on the whole “he doesn’t get it” thing. If he hadn’t understood Star Trek at all, the last movie would have been, well, Nemesis, or Insurrection, or Chronicles of Riddick or some random, forgettable action/adventure.

Look at the stuff produced by people who understand Trek — fan fiction, fan films etc., stuff by TOS writers and by Trek actors — it’s pretty terrible (and nothing against James Cawley — what he does is amazing, and I have a bit of a crush on him, but yeah, the sets, costumes, the involvement of original series folk, the earnestness and the attention to detail are amazing… but it ain’t particularly watchable, other than solely out of appreciation).

Trek ’09 wasn’t perfect by any means. But look at say, Brent Spiner, who damned it with faint praise when he said that it was (exact words missing) a great, entertaining action movie. Well, what Star Trek movie wasn’t that (an action movie), especially the TNG movies? They weren’t all “worthy” intellectual exercises. And what (entertanment, literary, intellectual, story-telling, emotional) value did Nemesis have (written by fan John Logan and produced by Spiner), other than, ostensibly, producing something for fans?

What kind of acknowledgement of fanhood do you want? A discount? Bob Orci appears here to chat with us — if that ain’t a nod to the fans I don’t know what is.

87. “And Scott was supposed to be a big bear of a man who could beat the crap out of a Klingon.”

What? When? Is this just because of the brawl in Tribbles? Doohan was apparently 5′ 8″ He wasn’t a large man, er, in circumference, until his later years. The Klingons back then weren’t particularly big either.

I don’t mind Pegg (who’s apparently 5’10”). I think Martin Freeman would work, as well.

92. Jack - March 25, 2012

73. T’Cal – March 25, 2012

“Total secrecy is hardly the sign of an intelligent producer…. Managing the flow of information so that just enough gets out at just the right time so that it not only whets the appetite of the fans but it also generates buzz among casual move goers is the sign of a really skilled and intelligent producer. I’m not seeing the latter here.”

Jesus, they’re in the middle of filming. What do you want from them, exactly? It’s a bloody year away.

There will be an entire year to do exactly that (“managing the flow of information so that just enough gets out at just the right time [is there an app for that?].”)

And how do you manage the flow of information during shooting without total secrecy?

Seriously, what are they supposed to be releasing at this point? There aren’t even stills yet since they’re in the middle of shooting.

They’re ridiculously busy, as they should be, making the best movie they can.

And, yeah, things could change. Scenes might be cut.

I wonder whether this isn’t about concerns for buzz at all but about entitlement.

Big deal, you like a movie/TV show… and I say this as a fan. But come on.
And, yeah, the info isn’t just being released to us, or to people who test highest on the How Great A Fan Are You test, it’s being released to the world, period. And the people griping the loudest about what great fans they are (and how, of course they’re not owed anything, but, still, JJ should understand their importance and not disrespect them…) seem to be the same people who complain the loudest about Abrams and about the last movie.

So, yeah, for those asking for morsels, what would satisfy you?

93. Corinthian7 - March 25, 2012

I’m happy for them to continue with the sequel. I just hope they don’t ruin it again by releasing a trailer that shows the entire movie.

94. Phil - March 25, 2012

Considering how much JJ has been ripped to shreds by a small but vocal contingent portion of the fan community, and this growing sense of entitlement (at least here) I don’t blame him for locking the production down.

95. Newman - March 25, 2012

94 – I agree

96. Red Dead Ryan - March 25, 2012

There’s nothing wrong with releasing a couple of photos of some of the cast in uniform, or a picture of a new set. Things that don’t reveal much, or any, of the plot.

I don’t want any spoilers, or a trailer right now, but maybe just picture or two once in awhile until the release date would be nice.

And just as importantly, I’d like some news on the merchandising for the sequel. It has to be better than what we got last time. We know Hasbro is going to be doing mini-figures for the next film, and I assume they will be doing other stuff as well. Will there be a comic tie-in similar to “Countdown” this time?

97. tom vinelli - March 25, 2012

I would like to know , then i say nope ,i can wait. I agree the Trailers will give away enough if done wrong .

98. Battle-scarred Sciatica - March 25, 2012

I like the fact that Bob O graces us with his presence, I personally would like a couple of pics of the crew in uniform or something.
Something a bit more official you know.
That’s just me, I am excited and impatient…so shoot me!
The holistic element to which I refer is in regard to the fact that the majority of the fans (i do NOT speak for all- would like to be thrown somekind of bone- whether it be a tiny element of plot or a scene, something of that nature. His ubersecrecy and reluctance to do so tells us he does not wish to look at the big picture. He’s the boss and it his (paramounts) choice. Fair play to him.
I am being totally selfish.
I want a snippet of joy to tantalize me.
That’s my opinion. If you don’t like it….well that’s yours.
I think we have all waited long enough For more new Trek stories on screen.

:)

99. somethoughts - March 25, 2012

No need to be secret, trailers give away a lot anyways.

I dont want to know specifics but at least give us a title, a basic idea of plot and pictures dammit

100. Craiger - March 25, 2012

That’s weird when they went all out with giving us stuff on the first movie maybe a little bit too much and the sequel. I wonder why?

101. Craiger - March 25, 2012

#99, That is what I have been saying giving us a basic plot and who the bad guy is and I think that is all I want to know. Allthough I am allways too tempted by spoilers. I hope those photos that were leaked weren’t the climax of the sequel and maybe that person who took those photos ruined it for all of us? Maybe to such a point that JJ had to rework that scene and that made him mad?

102. Khan was Framed1 - March 25, 2012

There is a level of secrecy that’s necessary to keep plot points vague, so they are exciting when you first see the film & then there’s this.

Abrams is taking this way too far.

It’s just a movie for christ’s sake.

We should at least get a title or a preview of a ship other than Enterprise or the villain’s name or something by now.

Although, it’s clearly Khan.

103. Jack - March 25, 2012

101. We won’t agree on this, alas. :) I don’t see how you can give out the plot synopsis without giving the whole damned movie away — or else say nothing at all. And maybe (hopefully) it’s more complicated than a sentence or two can handle.

We know what they look like in their costumes from last time. And we’ve already seen those leaked shots from this movie.

I don’t get why we need to know who the bad guy is at this point. Let them film the bloody thing in peace. What’s the reason for knowing it at his point? There’s a reason they’re keeping it a secret — maybe it’s someone we’ve seen before and they don’t want a flurry of stories complaining about recycling, or speculating on the TOS plot of the first one and how it might change, or maybe there’s something about the character himself that’s revealing.

And, as for them giving out too much before the last one — well, there were these exact same complaints here, that fans were being kept in the dark and the secrecy was crazy. What was the too much information that they gave out?

102. “Abrams is taking this way too far… We should at least get a title or a preview of a ship other than Enterprise or the villain’s name or something by now.”

You get that they’re filming it right now and it’s not coming out for a year, right? And you want a screenshot of a ship? There likely aren’t finished screenshots of anything, or, likely, publicity photos yet. Because they’re making it. Filming will take another month or two and then there’s post-production.

There will be plenty of publicity stills and action figures and toy designs and EW covers. There will be one or more trailers — when they’re done. Or, maybe, because they’ve kept it all a secret, we’ll get something we didn’t expect a little sooner…

Some of these comments are, well, ridiculous — we say we want realism but yet we’re complaining that Abrams is filming parts outside and shouldn’t expect to keep out photogs. Big bloody deal, they put up a privacy shield for a private event. How is that insane? If it wasn’t for all this — we’d have already been flooded with leaked copies of the script, cameraphone shots of all the shooting, tweets from actors accidentally revealing major plot points and detailed pap shots of pretty much everything shot outdoors.

If this was a month or two before release and it was still a total secret, and we didn’t know the name, well, I might agree with you that it’s a little nuts. But, come on. It’s highly unlikely that will happen or that this is going to be one of those films that won’t be previewed to critics. Trying to keep spies from making money off of stolen shots is pretty sensible.

104. Jack - March 25, 2012

Clearly, I need to back away from the keyboard.

105. Jeff O'Connor - March 25, 2012

Gamers went through this over the past year with the space opera trilogy-concluding Mass Effect 3, actually. BioWare and Electronic Arts were incredibly slow to release plot details. After a script leak in November you could bet your bottom dollar they weren’t going to say much too… but that’s beside the point and hopefully Trek XII isn’t plagued with such a thing.

Anyway, infamously bad ending aside (which BioWare is actually going to patch with added content to help explain some glaring plot flaws… yay, video games!) I think it’s the right move… so long as the plot delivers. in ME3’s case, boy did it deliver. Exceptional characterization and execution, again, straight down to that somewhat questionable final twenty minutes.

So, why am I seemingly so off-topic? Well, because I believe we’re in a similar situation here. So long as the plot ultimately delivers — and admittedly, therein lies the rub because people are going to get super-hyped for any number of separate expectations — this is a good thing to do. The movie is only going to be two hours and change. I want to know quite a small bit about it going in which I already know isn’t going to happen what with the trailers and such. For a 40-hour video game like ME3 trailers only show so much but for something a twentieth its length it’s going to show a lot.

Besides, the film’s over a year out. Give us morsels in a few months; for now this is the way to go.

106. Harry Ballz - March 25, 2012

It seems that some here are worried that, because of the extreme secrecy, the story must be considered provocative/disheartening to the more devout Trek fans. Keep it secret until it comes out and win them over then!

Yup, there’s the ol’ JJ bravado!

“People won’t like this, but just wait’ll they see what I do with it!”

107. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - March 25, 2012

I voted that it’s okau, but a few morsels can’t hurt. That’s what the trailer for the film will be anyway. Some official set pics, or pics of the cast in their uniforms would be nice. And might I add – where’s Anton Yelchin? Seems like he’s the only actor/character (Chekov) not getting any love these days. Did he make someone mad or something? I hope all is well for him and that his role is reasonably significant in the film. I just don’t like seeing anyone left out. Best of luck to all that are working on the film.

Thanks.

108. dmduncan - March 25, 2012

Well JJ was not as secretive about Super 8. He was secretive to be sure, but we knew what the story was about. Unlike here where we literally know nothing about the particulars.

And my guess is that yeah, knowing this crowd as I am sure Bob has informed him, some fans are going to cut it to pieces no matter what. If bad word of mouth this early goes viral — and virality is not something you can predict, so it’s probably best to avoid the potential for it — then it could be disastrous at the box office next year.

I just don’t see how it hurts to be totally secretive. But I can see potential for damage by not being secretive.

So I’m backing JJ’s silent running approach.

I don’t want to see another good movie fail at the box office — especially not Star Trek.

109. Battle-scarred Sciatica - March 25, 2012

@104

LMFAO :)

Your opinion is just as valid as anyone else’s, my friend!

110. Sean the Gaffer - March 25, 2012

Again, thought I’d let all you know that most of what you are seeing here is rehearsals and goofing off, not actual takes. Mr Abrams is not worried about the photos out there because they say nothing about the film we are shooting other than everyone looks great and it’s going fantastic. The sets are very secure and Paramount may have leaked the ones seen here. We wrap principal photography in May. And no, we do not work for Paramount. We are contracted out because we are union employees. Be patient. The film we are making is going to be fantastic

111. Harry Ballz - March 25, 2012

Sean, can you offer any simple proof that you’re on the level, so that people aren’t screaming……………………..

“IT’S A FAKE!!”

112. Jack - March 25, 2012

108. Howdy dm. With Super 8 was there more info than this during fiiming? And, even with leaked shots — seeing a few kids on bikes ain’t a big deal. I remember not knowing much from the trailers, as far as the details of what the actual threat was (although alien monster seemed pretty likely).

“And my guess is that yeah, knowing this crowd as I am sure Bob has informed him, some fans are going to cut it to pieces no matter what. If bad word of mouth this early goes viral — and virality is not something you can predict, so it’s probably best to avoid the potential for it — then it could be disastrous at the box office next year.”

That’s a good guess. Makes sense to me.

110. That was definitely a morsel. Thanks!

And, if true, the photos being leaked makes sense. Look at this site. Buzz has certainly been built.

111. Proof like photos from the set and a synopsis? A lock of Cumberbatch’s hair? :)

113. Spock/Uhura Admirer ;-) - March 25, 2012

Okay, so I went looking for interviews by Anton just to see what he might be saying these days, and I came across this article about another film he promoted: http://www.stevecummins.com/features/crazy-in-love-%E2%80%94-anton-yelchin-interview

I didn’t know anything about the guy, other than he’s a good actor. It was nice to read about how passionate he is about his craft, and very sad to read that his family had to give up everything to leave Russia when he was a baby so that they could all have better lives. It sounds like anti-semitism was the reason. How sad. It also sounds like that was the reason why his parents weren’t allowed to achieve their dreams as Olympians.

Well, anyway, I got my answer as to why we’re not hearing or even seeing much of Anton; he’s a bit withdrawn and just doesn’t like publicity. I hope all goes well for him on set and that he’s having a nice time and feels like he can trust his surroundings there. Hopefully when ST13 comes out he won’t mind giving another interview. One thing about this interview is that it sold me on seeing Like Crazy.

114. dmduncan - March 25, 2012

112: “108. Howdy dm. With Super 8 was there more info than this during fiiming?”

We knew what the basic story was about. Kids making a movie and find ET. We knew it was going to be a JJ Abrams spin on an early Steven Spielberg type movie. Details were sparse, but there was the outline of a shape.

Here we know almost nothing particular except the actors, and nothing at all about the story itself. So yeah, I do think JJ has clamped down tighter for this production than his last one.

115. moauvian waoul - aka: seymour hiney - March 25, 2012

24. boborci, you sir are cruel.

116. Red Dead Ryan - March 25, 2012

#110.

Yeah, nice try troll. We know its you, the same person a few months back who claimed to have “inside information” on the sequel. I know you’re a phony because a recent article on this site revealed that J.J Abrams was pissed off at the leaked photos and video.

117. moauvian waoul - aka: seymour hiney - March 25, 2012

…and unusual.

118. Daoud - March 25, 2012

115. He’s just toying with us. Undetweetable doesn’t show any such deleted tweet by him.

119. Paul Tigulea - March 25, 2012

JJ said the name of the villain would be announced once he was cast months ago, and here were are 5 months latter and he still hasn’t just like every other time he has said he would announce info in a week or month etc. Having the name of the villian isnt going to spoil the movie.

But hey JJ has every right to keep everything military grade top secret, and i have every right to ignore the movie when it hits theatres, and give another film my hard earned money that weekend.

Just remember this mr Abrams without our money you would have no movie or television career. You might be the current keeper of trek, but if you werent around someone else would be, even if the theatrical franchise were dead and burried, it would live the billions of fans hearts,minds and imaginations. and trek fans have a way of creating new trek for FANS to enjoy for FREE. Be it fan productions like phase 2 or Trek in the park, or fan fiction. Trek will be around in some form as long as people can imagine, dont be so sure that your career will be around forever..

In cooler news today James Cameron dived to the deepest point in the ocean to film another documentary about the deep blue sea, only 2 other people have dove that deep and he stayed longer down there than either of those two.

120. Paul Tigulea - March 26, 2012

I would pay to see Cameron’s Documentary over JJ Trek any day of the week at this point. JJ can take his unoriginal JJKhan reboot and shoot it off to the moon for all i care now.

if its not khan then friggen prove it and stop hiding the name of the villian.

121. VZX - March 26, 2012

Well, over 1500 votes in and it looks like I’m in the minority. I voted “Bad…” since I like a lot more info, but that’s just me, I guess.

Oh well, no big deal, it is, after all, only a movie.

122. moauvian waoul - aka: seymour hiney - March 26, 2012

118. Yes Daoud. That’s what’s so cruel. ;)

123. mojomonkey - March 26, 2012

#89 Did you even see JC? There’s nothing wrong with the movie. And ancient civilizations on Mars is no more “out there” than non-existent civilizations on Klingon in an imagined future. It’s called “what if”, dumbass.

124. moauvian waoul - aka: seymour hiney - March 26, 2012

“Trailers are not meant to give away the movie.”

In this age of instant gratification trailers often reveal the entire plot to hook the fickle audience. There’s too much money on the table.

Patience grasshoppers. What ever will be, will be. The future is not ours to see.

125. moauvian waoul - aka: seymour hiney - March 26, 2012

It’s a shame subtly is out of fashion.

126. catballou - March 26, 2012

#24 boborci: It’s Dr. Zachary Smith, isn’t it? You’re making the Lost in Space/Trek crossover everyone’s been clamouring for, aren’t you? ;-)

127. Chris Doohan - March 26, 2012

24. I accidently tweeted the identity of the bad guy but managed to erase it before anyone saw it.”

I saw it…. It’s Danny Bonaduce as the Sand Man.

128. NuFan - March 26, 2012

119- billions of fans

You’re hilarious!

120- if its not khan then friggen prove it

It is Khan. Don’t be cranky.

129. mojomonkey - March 26, 2012

#126 Classic!

130. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - March 26, 2012

#127. Hey Chris. I could have sworn it was a pick of Lou Ferrigno as a Villian in Trek. You know. The Guy who played The Increadable Hulk.

131. T'cal - March 26, 2012

Well, I’m in the camp with all the others here who want to know a little more. If I were to go by the book, my count is we’re in the majority: 98-32. By the book…

132. SoonerDave - March 26, 2012

@124 “Trailers are not meant to give away the movie.”

They sure might be. I saw a research feature about movie production a few years ago, and one section dealt specifically with trailers. There were ongoing wars between directors, producers, and studios about the content of trailers, and the extent to which trailers blew or strongly hinted at certain plot points. The studio/trailer perspective was pretty simple, and I paraphrase here: “I don’t care if it gives away the entire movie. If it helps promote a film and sell tickets, I’ll put it in there.”

I remember the destruction of the Enterprise being a fairly quiet plot point of Trek III back in 1984, (we only had Starlog for leaks back then) but darned if that wasn’t a key piece of the trailer that blew what little “wow” factor that might have had right threw the roof. Heck, they even added the narration “join the crew on the last voyage of the starship Enterprise…” to the trailer AND the commercials.

So, the point is there are ZERO moral boundaries about constructing a trailer. Spoilers aren’t a concern.

133. son-of-shatner - March 26, 2012

why, in the original timeline, was Scotty clearly older than the other crew members… yet in Abrams universe he’s Simon Pegg?

134. moauvian waoul - aka: seymour hiney - March 26, 2012

Trek 12: The Revenge of Montezuma. ? Insidious!

135. AJ - March 26, 2012

LL&P, Mr. Nimoy. Happy 81st!

136. mojomonkey - March 26, 2012

#133 Why is he even Simon Pegg?

By far the worst casting choice in the movie.

137. The Last Vulcan - March 26, 2012

Why is JJ hiding the fact that Cumby plays famous Trek Villain (fill in the blank)?

To keep half the internet from exploding with BermianBragian paroxysms of ecstasy and flames from bozos who will claim its derivative, stupid, dated, and no one could possibly blow smoke from their left nostril like the original long-dead actor could.

I hate this secrecy too, but JJ is spot on to put a cork on the entire production. AND the pix are staged. Wait and see!

138. orly - March 26, 2012

Cumberbatch’s new advert for Jags http://youtu.be/E2jZnyPkQcU

139. Scotty - March 26, 2012

They need to do a shot of the average ST fanboy with his red military outfit on, sobbing in his basement at the lack of updates!

140. Phil - March 26, 2012

@110. Hey, I’m guessing your imaginary boss is chewing you a new one and explaining that the non-disclosure agreement your imaginary company signed, and you just violated just cost them your imaginary job….nice try.

141. Landru's cousin, Dandru - March 26, 2012

Craiger, you can’t be serious. Cumberbatch can’t be playing a Kzinti for very simple reason: He has a human head.

Come on, man.

As for the animated series not being canon, that’s debatable. Had Enterprise season 5 been made, a Kzinti episode was planned. Plus elements of “Yesteryear” were included both in the TNG episode “Sarek” and in Abrams’ film.

142. montreal_paul - March 26, 2012

133. son-of-shatner
” why, in the original timeline, was Scotty clearly older than the other crew members… yet in Abrams universe he’s Simon Pegg?”

Because Simon Pegg wasn’t born in the 60s! LoL. Seriously, because in the JJ new movies, Scotty (and everyone else) are younger!

143. Craiger - March 26, 2012

#141, No Cumberbatch wouldn’t be a Kzinti he would be one of the genetically enhanced superman that that TAS Scientist said were needed to be bread to take on the Kzinti.

144. Red Dead Ryan - March 26, 2012

I believe that Simon Pegg is the oldest of the new cast. I think he’s 44. So it would line up with canon, and with James Doohan being the oldest of the TOS cast.

145. Sean the Gaffer - March 26, 2012

Simon is 42.

146. Vultan - March 26, 2012

The poster for the movie should be a solid black rectangle—and nothing else.
It will make people ask: “How much more black can this be?” And the answer is none. None more black. And they’ll say: “I’ve got to see this movie!”

It’s a fine line between stupid and clever.

147. Fueled by Armus - March 26, 2012

Maybe that’s why the trailers are up, he doesn’t want anyone to steal a look at his superhuman breadmen.

148. Shilliam Watner - March 26, 2012

Sometimes, when things are too secret, one might get the feeling they’re trying to hide something bad. I’m sure it’s a fine line, and subjective for sure. I personally don’t see how a bit more publicity, a bit more disclosure would harm the film’s future. But that’s just me. I’m just scum, and it isn’t my project so I can just piss off.

149. Jack - March 26, 2012

I tend to take everything literally.

150. montreal_paul - March 26, 2012

@ 148. Shilliam Watner

That makes no sense at all.

151. Harry Ballz - March 26, 2012

148.

Well, what do you know…..question asked, question answered! :>)

152. Harry Ballz - March 26, 2012

145. Sean the Gaffer “Simon is 42″

Funny, I thought #42 was Fueled by Armus!

(rimshot)

153. boborci - March 26, 2012

I keeeed!

154. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - March 26, 2012

Oh come on Bob Orci. Quit keeeding us. We want a Trailor.

155. moauvian waoul - aka: seymour hiney - March 26, 2012

AW, COM-MON ORCI! WOULD’YA ALREADY?

156. Battle-scarred Sciatica - March 26, 2012

I wouldn’t waste time pleading with Mr Orci.

His lips are tied and his hands are sealed (and his eyes are old and grey).

Its like trying to get blood out of a Horta.

:P

157. moauvian waoul - aka: seymour hiney - March 26, 2012

But he tasks us. He tasks us, and we shall have him.

158. The Last Vulcan - March 26, 2012

Dear Mr. Orci. On behalf of the participants of this site, I respectfully request:

1) A final shooting script
2) Full storyboards
3) A complete collection of dailies
4) 6.37 Kg of Dilithium Crystals.

… and if you have some red matter hanging around at Sony Studios, that would be great too.

Thank you. It’s the least you can do considering you blew up my $%^&ing planet! :)

159. montreal_paul - March 26, 2012

158. The Last Vulcan

Speak for yourself! I don’t want any of that! I want to be surprised when the movie comes out next year.

160. boborci - March 26, 2012

158lo!

161. Harry Ballz - March 26, 2012

154. Commodore Mike “We want a Trailor”

That’s the title to the sequel!!

Trekker, Trailor, Soldier, Why?

162. Jack - March 27, 2012

158. Awesome. But could we add one of Chris Pines socks to the list… er, for Keachick.

163. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - March 27, 2012

Hey Jack. We should also get one of Zoey’s undies. . Oops. did I say that.

164. Dee - lvs moon' surface - March 27, 2012

#160. boborci…

 “People Like Us sale el 29 de Junio! No se lo pierdan!”

You said it on twitter, I know… but please… Let me tell you here give us a trailer soon… and I guarantee that the fandom of CP will help you promote the film … and the fandom of Michelle Pfeiffer is also very interested… believe me!

;-) :-)

165. Craiger - March 27, 2012

Were getting a teaser trailer already for the Total Recall reboot.

http://collider.com/total-recall-remake-teaser-trailer/155283/

166. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 27, 2012

#162 – Thank you, Jack, for thinking of my needs…:)

I’m not really a foot/sock girl, however some lower arm hairs from the one Chris Pine could get added to the list. Who knew I could have a Pine arm hair fetish? I didn’t, but there you go… His arm are gorgeous. I’ve not noticed how nice the hairs are on any other man, just Chris Pine.

Sorry, Zachary Quinto – arm hairs too long and too dark. They just don’t “do it” for me. Same with other guys as well.

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Thanks, guys, for inadvertently cheering me up some, as I am feeling very down at the moment. My favourite cat is very sick – have no idea what is wrong, at the vets right now, costing an arm and leg, have to see… He (Jezra) is nine years 3 months old. I saw him being born on 15 Nov. 2002 to a lovely little tortoiseshell cat. Fingers crossed he’ll be OK.

167. Jack - March 27, 2012

Yeah, I didn’t mean to take this discussion to where on one (who’s not posting an ad on craigslist) has gone before. Shudder. :)

168. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 27, 2012

Jack, I wouldn’t worry about it.

169. Jack - March 27, 2012

168. Kidding! :) Hope all turns out well.

PS. Bob Orci, if you’re out there, just thought I’d put in a lone vote for the undiluted TOS, original “Space, the final frontier…” intro, if y’all are using it at all. The one with “new life” rather than “new life forms” and, especially, with “where no man (not “no one”) has gone before.” Even just plain “her mission” would be better than her ongoing mission, although I still love “5-year.”

Come on, it’ll be good press. There might even be twitter outrage/fun.

The other retcons I’d love to see reversed are the return of “landing parties” instead of “away teams,” the return of the TMP-era Starfleet crest rather than the TNG one, and no general mention of TNG-jargon like LCARS, inertial dampeners or the EPS system and no reference to the TNG-instituted Warp 10 barrier…

I probably should have mentioned all this before you started filming :). Although, that’s what post-production is for.

170. Jack - March 27, 2012

165. Craiger – March 27, 2012
“Were getting a teaser trailer already for the Total Recall reboot.”

Indeed, just over four months before it’s in theatres (August 2012) and seven months after they finished four months of filming (September 2011). Seems fair enough.

So, if Trek followed a similar trailer-release timeline to Total Recall — we’d be getting something around Christmas 2012/January 2013.

171. Mr. Marketing - March 28, 2012

#123
Dumb-ass, huh. When a person has to resort to name calling, you know they’ve been shaken by something that makes sense to them, and they have to lash out. Sorry you’re upset JC turned out to be a turkey–you put your emotions in the wrong place. It happens. Remember. It’s just a movie.

Regarding the film. To some, we just couldn’t suspend our disbelief regarding the film taking place on Mars–a planet we know had no intelligent life 150 years ago. In Burroughs’ time, this could be accepted, not now. It’s just silly. The problem is, civilizations on Mars is the foundation of the story itself–which has to make sense–at least to me–otherwise, the “what if” factor is in serious question. Even a fantasy has to make some sense. Plus, the degree of non-sense in this story is just too much for me. I’m not much of a fantasy fan, but smart fantasy will work for me–kiddie-pulp doesn’t.

Regarding your example of suspension of disbelief: The Klingon empire in TREK is totally fictional and violates no pre-established facts, science or beliefs. If you can buy the Mars milieu for this story, more power to you. I can not.

The kitsch and cheese–production design didn’t help either. Conan on Mars doesn’t do it for me. The overly familiar plot, silly names and way too many game-players didn’t add much. Plus, hard to be carried away in a story that looks like so many you just saw. Glad you were able to get some joy out of it though. Don’t take yourself so seriously.

172. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 28, 2012

I think the mission statement should read – “Space, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise – to seek out new life, new civilisations, where no human has gone before.”

Perhaps it might be a bit clumsy, however other aliens (in the Star Trek cosmos) are already *there* and/or have been before, so the last phrase does make more sense. I think they should drop the “five year mission” notion.

The term “man” has originally come from a Scandinavian word which means one/everyone – it is neutral. However, in English, the word “man” has come to mean specifically the male of the species as opposed to the female of the species, therefore is seen to be rather sexist as the use of “man” now feels as if the woman/female is excluded. She is just some convenient (or inconvenient, depending on a person’s perspective) add-on.

173. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 28, 2012

#169 – “168. Kidding! :) Hope all turns out well.”

I assume you are referring to my sick cat. Unfortunately, the prognosis is not good. Jezra is fighting a serious infection and has developed diabetes. Often the symptoms associated with feline diabetes are hard to detect until it becomes serious. I have read that with the right treatment – insulin and getting rid of the infection, cats can sometimes heal themselves of being insulin dependent unlike humans, but not always. Depends. Infections and diabetes form a vicious circle…

This is Jezra’s second visit to the vets – the first and only time was to be neutered. He’s just been wonderful in every way before and since then. We have to decide today whether to bring him home and bury him tonight or leave him with the vets in the hope that they will be able get on top of the infection and get his blood-glucose levels stabilised. He is very sick… Then there is the money aspect required for his care and if he does pull through, that he will, more than likely, be an insulin-dependent cat for the rest of his life. Rationally, it might be wiser to have him put to sleep, but on the other hand…

My spouse is an insulin-dependent diabetic. I’m so *loving* life right now…:(

Looks like getting that new plasma HD whatsy screen and blu-ray player may have to wait… no big deal, really.

That is where it is at, right now. Thanks for caring, Jack.

174. Jack - March 29, 2012

Sorry to hear that. I’ve only had to have a pet euthanized once — the cat I grew up with (17 and really ill) — and it was awful. i’d told myself “Hey, it’s just a cat and he’s old and this is how life goes and he’s in pain and he’ll be better off” and was very calm/detached, I thought, and then broke down in the waiting room, sobbed uncontrollably and then stayed with him for a long time after it was over.

175. Keachick - rose pinenut (F) - March 30, 2012

Yes, Jack, I know what it is like. I am just a sobbing mess every time and unfortunately, Jezra has not been my first beloved pet I/we’ve had to put to sleep. The first was an old dog, then Jezra’s litter mate in 2005 (crohns disease), a cat called Zak (kidney failure), a California white rabbit (jaw abscess – easy to treat in cats but not in rabbits – he couldn’t eat or drink…) and now Jezra. I also lost an 18 year old cat to old age just before Christmas 2010 – she went by herself…

No doubt some lovely little needy stray will find me. They always do. What to do?

Thanks, Jack. Take care.

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