As we’ve previously reported, listings for the The Next Generation cast movies have been showing up on retailers’ websites. Today, Paramount Pictures officially announced the 4K upgrade. They’ll be released on April 4 in the USA, just in time for First Contact Day. Thus far, international release dates have not been provided by Paramount.
Available in 4K boxed set, individually, or as remastered standard Blu-rays
All four films will be available together in the STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION 4-MOVIE COLLECTION. The 4-Movie Collection includes each film on 4K Ultra HD with Dolby Vision and HDR10, as well as fully remastered on Blu-ray, plus all legacy bonus content and access to digital copies of each film. It’s presented in a slipcase beautifully illustrated to complement the Star Trek: The Original 6-Movie Collection, making this a must-own set to complete every fan’s collection. Audio for each movie is offered in a 7.1 Dolby TrueHD lossless format.
Each film will be available individually on 4K Ultra HD with a bonus Blu-ray featuring the fully remastered film, along with all legacy bonus content and access to a digital copy of the film.
The remastered films will also be available individually on standard Blu-ray discs too.
The special features are carryovers from the previous 2009 Blu-ray releases. A complete list is below:
STAR TREK: GENERATIONS Bonus Content
- Commentary by director David Carson and Manny Coto
- Commentary by Brannon Braga and Ronald D. Moore
- Text commentary by Michael and Denise Okuda
- Library Computer
- Uniting Two Legends
- Stellar Cartography: Creating the Illusion
- Strange New Worlds: The Valley of Fire
- Scoring Trek
- Visual Effects
- Inside ILM: Models & Miniatures
- Crashing the Enterprise
- Scene Deconstruction
- Main Title Sequence
- The Nexus Ribbon
- Saucer Crash Sequence
- The Star Trek Universe
- A Tribute to Matt Jeffries
- The Enterprise Lineage
- Captain Picard’s Family Album
- Creating 24th Century Weapons
- Next Generation Designer Flashback Andrew Probert
- Stellar Cartography on Earth
- Brent Spiner – Data and Beyond Part 1
- Trek Roundtable: Generations
- Starfleet Academy SCISEC Brief 007: Trilithium
- Deleted Scenes
STAR TREK: FIRST CONTACT Bonus Content
- Commentary by director and actor Jonathan Frakes
- Commentary by screenplay writers Brannon Braga and Ronald D. Moore
- Commentary by Damon Lindelof and Anthony Pascale
- Text commentary by Michael and Denise Okuda
- Library Computer
- Making First Contact
- The Art of First Contact
- The Story
- The Missile Silo
- The Deflector Dish
- From “A” to “E”
- Scene Deconstruction
- Borg Queen Assembly
- Escape Pod Launch
- Borg Queen’s Demise
- The Star Trek Universe
- Jerry Goldsmith: A Tribute
- The Legacy of Zefram Cochrane
- First Contact: The Possibilities
- Industrial Light & Magic – The Next Generation
- Greetings from the International Space Station
- SpaceShipOne’s Historic Flight
- Brent Spiner – Data and Beyond Part 2
- Trek Roundtable: First Contact
- Starfleet Academy SCISEC Brief 008: Temporal Vortex
- The Borg Collective
- Unimatrix One
- The Queen
- Design Matrix
STAR TREK: INSURRECTION Bonus Content
- Commentary by Jonathan Frakes and Marina Sirtis
- Text commentary by Michael and Denise Okuda
- Library Computer
- It Takes a Village
- Location, Location, Location
- The Art of Insurrection
- Anatomy of a Stunt
- The Story
- Making Star Trek: Insurrection
- Director’s Notebook
- The Star Trek Universe
- Westmore’s Aliens
- Westmore’s Legacy
- Star Trek’s Beautiful Alien Women
- Marina Sirtis – The Counselor Is In
- Brent Spiner – Data and Beyond Part 3
- Trek Roundtable: Insurrection
- Starfleet Academy SCISEC Brief 009: The Origins of the Ba’ku and Son’a Conflict
- Creating the Illusion
- Shuttle Chase
- Duck Blind
- Deleted Scenes
STAR TREK: NEMESIS Bonus Content
- Commentary by director Stuart Baird
- Commentary by producer Rick Berman
- Commentary by Michael and Denise Okuda
- Text commentary by Michael and Denise Okuda
- Library Computer
- Nemesis Revisited
- New Frontiers – Stuart Baird on Directing Nemesis
- Storyboarding the Action
- Red Alert! Shotting the Action of Nemesis
- Build and Rebuild
- Four-Wheeling in the Final Frontier
- Screen Test: Shinzon
- The Star Trek Universe
- A Star Trek Family’s Final Journey
- A Bold Vision of The Final Frontier
- The Enterprise E
- Reunion with The Rikers
- Today’s Tech Tomorrow’s Data
- Robot Hall of Fame
- Brent Spiner – Data and Beyond Part 4
- Trek Roundtable: Nemesis
- Starfleet Academy SCISEC Brief 010: Thalaron Radiation
- The Romulan Empire
- Romulan Lore
- Shinzon & the Viceroy
- Romulan Design
- The Romulan Senate
- The Scimitar
- Deleted Scenes
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But no word about the audio track??? I REALLY hope they won’t use the 30 years old audio tracks but will do a Dolby Atmos mix to bring it into the new age!!!!!
According to the always reliable thedigitalbits.com, the audio format for all the discs is DolbyTrueHD 7.1. No new Atmos mix, and no features of any kind. But really, was anyone really expecting anything else?
Yep. The press release Paramount sent us doesn’t mention the audio at all, which is a clear indicator that, like the TOS movies before it, they’re using the same (still quite good) lossless 7.1 audio tracks created back in 2009. This isn’t really a surprise. Most catalog releases don’t get a new sound mix.
Thanks, Matt. That’s unfortunate. Watch, in several years they will have special edition 4K UHD’s with that have remastering, Atmos and other reasons for us to triple dip on these (I already have the 2009 BR’s).
I am not going to be a sucker here for P — I’ll wait a few years for the next 4K version and skip this release. And who knows, maybe a future version will have new VFX for the deflector dish battle scene as well?
ST: The Motion Picture DC got a brand new Atmos mix and many much older and smaller movies in general received new Atmos mixes.. So yea hope was there!
Yep, and they got my $80. This “lazy” offering will not get my $.
I was really hoping they would redo the special effects for the deflector dish battle for the 4K release
You mean when Worf says “Assimilate this!” and obliterates the deflector, which is floating away at this point, with a single phaser shot?
IT WAS CHARGED WITH ANTIPROTONS!
My thought was always that he hit some critical component that led to an explosion. Not that the phaser by itself blew it up… (Think of hitting a single bullet on a fuelled rocket.)
kmart mentioned that they had a much more ambitious scene planned for that battle, but had to substantially reduce the scope due to budget issues. So my guess is they just tried to throw in a really big explosion still for that Worf phaser fire — Trying to salvage as much “bang” as possible from their original storboard.
But they clearly set that up by saying the dish was charged to the point where a direct phaser hit could blow up half the ship. So Worf waited until it cleared the saucer and did just that. It’s totally reasonable.
I would be EXTREMELY disappointed if they won’t spend those movies a dolby atmos mix!!! There are much “smaller” and older films that receive great atmos mixes these days! If they will not do that it’s a clear sign for me that they don’t really care about it and it’s just about money for them..
Agreed. I am not paying for the 4K discs unless that is part of it.
I am starting to think your right.. The bluray looks good but I wanted the upgrade on the audio ( Atmos ) now its going to be the same audio? what a waste :(
Yes but where’s my DS9 4k version? come on
Yes, this is the question. I’d settle for just High-Def. I don’t think Paramount knows what gold they has with DS9.
I don’t know. We do know that the reason they didn’t do it years ago was because sales of the TNG blu rays did not meet expectations. So unless the cost of HD remastering comes down considerably, I think it’s fans who don’t realize what kind of money drain it is when the upside is nominal.
Eventually it will happen it’s just a matter of when the tech comes down in cost. It’s good to have legacy shows like this in HD, but if it costs them $100M, I can certainly understand why they haven’t done it. It’s not as if having it in HD would lure in subscribers to their streaming service, and I doubt they sell enough blurays to recoup the cost.
When the AI/DL remastering software get’s truly commercialized and used in studio workflow processes, then we will get DS9 and VOY in HD finally. It’s going to be a 100% software solution, not the expensive process they used for TNG.
It will happen in the next 3-5 years.
Exactly. No idea the timeframe, but I predicted this about a decade ago, and was mocked for suggesting the solution was AI upscaling. I was told “that’s not how it works.”
I insisted, it would be a technology that doesn’t quite exist yet (AI upscaling was still incredibly primitive at the time), but will one day be a thing. I was surprised that Trek fans of all fans couldn’t grasp the idea that a technology might exist in the future that they couldn’t imagine.
But as Clarke once said, if you’re predictions of the future aren’t laughed at, they won’t be right.
lol, yeah, me too.
I think things are changing. Look at TMP-DE. Maybe they could do it through streaming, with new remastered episodes keeping us subscribed between seasons of new shows. It would be much cheaper to remaster ten episodes of DS9 than producing a new 10-episode season of Star Trek… And, I, for one, would stick with it so that they could remaster the whole thing…
So–no mention of the cost? Or has Paramount not released that information yet?
Probably $100 day 1, then $25 6 months later…lol
The retail, according to Bull Moose music (where I ordered my copy) is listed at 107.99 but marked down to 79.97.
I bought the iTunes versions on sale recently in anticipation of my free upgrade.
The commentary to Generations by Braga and Moore is a fascinating listen. They pretty much tear apart their own script.
People still by movies on plastic landfill-bound physical trash? Please let me know when the VHS or laserdisc release is!!!!
“Landfill-bound physical trash” sure beats having to figure out where the hell Paramount has dished content out to this week. I mean, damn, I’ve had relationships last longer than these 4 movies staying together in one place.
Very well put. And amusing as well. The movies are on HBO now, but wait till next week….
I honestly like that it’s on HBO Max because it provides both versions of certain ones whereas paramount+ didn’t
I love when people say “well put” to a silly comment. lol.
I hate to break it to you, but in regards to that recent audition you had at The Improv, well they ain’t calling back, my friend. lol
Very poorly said, because no it doesn’t. I would much rather stream everything even if it’s not always available or takes a few clicks to find. Having to purchase and house a physical library of media, then extract it from said library and load it, unload it, rehouse it, every time I want to watch something? Way more trouble than streaming, even if a movie swaps location now and then. Life is demonstrably better thanks to streaming, like putting wheels on suitcases.
To each their own.
It’s weird to me how I keep running into people on the web who seem to feel threatened or uncomfortable with those of us who prefer the higher quality physical media over streaming. Luke Montgomery starts this off by making fun of us over this (yet the poor dude is so dense he thinks the quality is lower than streaming given his inexplicable reference to laser disc and VHS), and then Alpha Predator completely shuts down your post with hyperbole (which he keeps lecturing to us not to use), and then insults me by inferring that I don’t value a story as much as him.
Why the defensiveness and animosity here from these dudes? I mean, I don’t start threads by slamming streamers; heck, I stream a lot of stuff.
Not to mention special features. The closest you can get to seeing value added material digitally is outright buying a film or show from iTunes or Amazon.
And then there’s the aspect ratio issue. If people don’t want to nitpick compression and pixel counts, then maybe they will acknowledge that so many streaming films are not being shown in their original aspect ratio. A lot of people have forgotten/don’t care that most movies weren’t made at 16:9. It’s such a shame.
Yes indeed. The Mad Max films are on Amazon Prime, but after seeing how cropped and oversaturated they are I made a note to upgrade my DVDs to 4K next time I want to watch them.
Nobody feels threatened. Personally, it’s the superiority complex by those who prefer physical media that rubs me the wrong way. That they are smarter, better fans for having a physical collection.
Don’t argue either, that attitude is absolutely there: they look down on those who prefer streaming and it seems to me they’re the ones who feel threatened. They’re TERRIFIED that the secret media police will come and take their precious BluRays/DVDs/VHS/etc.
(True story btw: I once had a cinephile buff friend tell me in all seriousness that he believed the government would one day confiscate home media)
Lol, I’m imagining he’s also like got a gun safe loaded to bear next to his 4 bookcases of DVD’s and BR’s. (Which really isn’t funny I guess)
OK I get that happens, but, in this case, Luke Montgomery started this entire thread by ridiculing those of us who have the physical media???
I think this chip on the shoulder thing works both ways here, my friend. I hope you can acknowledge that?
Meh. I don’t like constantly having to rent movies and shows I like.
Streaming sucks, 1) You don’t own it
2) Everything is in compressed shit. Looks really bad when most of the screen is dark
3) Streaming platforms only keep their titles for about 9 months
and 4) They always axe a good series
And yet still demonstrably better for me. I had to spend so much more money back in the day to watch all the shows and movies I wanted. Way less now, and far more content. Never going back to that nonsense. Even if streaming dies, i’ll just stop watching movies and TV shows.
Even if streaming dies, i’ll just stop watching movies and TV shows.
LOL — says the Trekmovie Citizens Arrest Hyperbole Control Officer.
As long as the quality of streaming stays that bad I surely will get stuff on physical media
Much better than that compression algorithm fake 4K stuff you watch
Maybe for you. I watch movies for the story, not the pixels.
That’s silly of course to suggest it’s an either/or proposition.
I watch movies as if I was in the cinema (my set-up actually is superior to most cinema’s, IMAX excepted) — story and picture quality both are important to me, as is creating the movie theater experience in my home.
But sure, if BR and/or 4K UHD BR’s discs are not available, streaming or DVD will work fine if needed. I even have a VHS deck that I use a couple times a year.
I just don’t get people’s obsession with pixel density, quality, etc. It all looks good. 4K does nothing for me. Next year you’ll be demanding 8K, and mocking people who stream at 4k.
Dude, you kill me. I’m not demanding anything, and 8K will never make sense for home use.
I have 110 inch screen and 4K projector. It’s a significantly better picture versus 1080 P given my screen size — and yes, anyone viewing it can tell the difference. Besides, streaming is doing 4K now (albeit with using lots of compression algorithm‘s to keep the bandwidth manageable), so I’m not even sure what point you are trying to make on that?
Again, I have no issue with your viewpoint and that you want to stream. You though seem to have a really big chip on your shoulder about this — you’re coming across like do have sort of a petty inferiority complex… just look at your posts where you’re trying to ridicule those of us with discs.
RELAX ! :-)
Bonus: The plastic trash will be around hundreds of years from now to choke an animal in the actual time of Star Trek! Now we know why Spock said this about our society… “Judging by the pollution content of the atmosphere, I believe we have arrived at the latter half of the 20th century.” -Spock ST4
While that’s not why I abandoned physical media, it’s a nice upside for sure.
One hour of streaming in SD produces about 55 grams of CO2 equivalent—the same amount as charging seven smartphones. And for 320MB for 4K video, an hour of video would be 17 times the emissions of SD content — 935 grams of C02.
And the amount of Carbon that goes into producing one 4K UHD disc is about 220 grams of C02. So when streaming was in SD only, streaming was 4:1 better for the environment (so you right way back then), but at 4K today, discs are about 4.5 times better for the environment today — so you are way off, wrong.
I think I’d rather create a bit of plastic trash then continually warming the planet with my huge, energy sucking downloads of 4K streaming content.
If you are so worried about warming the planet then maybe you shouldn’t boast about your home theater set-up which you claim “is superior to most cinema’s”.
Emissions estimates for streaming generally include the energy consumption of the viewing device, which is a large fraction of the total amount, especially if people are watching on a large TV or projector and not a phone. So it’s completely misleading to compare that to the emissions from producing one disk.
You apparently aren’t paying attention to the thread. I didn’t bring this up — I was just offering the calculations. I never claimed that this was a priority for me. So nice try trying to “score points” on me as part of our eternal back-and-forth battle of comments here…lol
And the calculations are bullshit.
The original poster was talking about plastic trash. You switched topics and claimed that disks were more environmentally friendly than streaming based on an apples-to-oranges comparison that doesn’t actually compare their environmental impact.
But nice try.
Nope, I researched several articles on the life cycle environmental impact that compared discs to streaming. That’s a lot more homework that you are doing here, which started with a false claim by you that I brought up the environmental issue as a priority for me on this, and, when confronted with that, you have now devolved into a lazy “I don’t buy your numbers” opinion that you have pulled out of your keister.
You are off your game today — I expect better than this in our discussions.
Oh, I never believed that environmental impact was a concern of yours, but you brought up the emissions comparison to counter the comment about plastic trash made by Luke.
Here is a comparative life cycle assessment of bluray vs. streaming: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2212827119301040
I point you to figure 3.
By the way: The linked article does not include the disposal of the disk in its assessment (the trash in the land fill the original poster was talking about), which would increase the impact of disks even more.
That article did not use 4K streaming downloads for it’s calculations (only 1080P), which is when disc becomes better for the env than streaming…which is what I said above.
By the way: My information did not include repeat viewing, in which you have to download the entire 4K movie for streaming again, and so you count twice, three times, etc, etc, unlike disc, which you already have…huge difference in env impact!
1) The 55 g CO2eq per hour of streaming does not only include content provisioning and content delivery, but also content consumption, that is the energy use of data centers, transmission networks, home routers, TVs, set-top boxes, etc are all included. In fact, electronic devices at the user’s home make up almost 90% of the total emissions number.
2) You simply multiplied 55 g with a random factor of 17 to derive a completely bogus number of 935 g CO2eq. In Europe, the average across all viewing devices (that also means all resolutions incl. 4K) was 56 g per hour in 2020, while FHD on a 50″ screen was just 58 g per hour. So going up to 4K would have minimum impact on the emissions. On the other hand, watching on a larger screen would indeed increase this number.
3) Your number for 4K discs is just for the production of the disc. You’re missing all the emissions on the consumption side, which are included in the estimate for streaming and actually make up the largest share of the estimate.
That’s what I meant when I said that your calculations are bullshit.
Also, the environmental impact of discs vs. streaming comprises much more than just CO2 emissions, as the assessment I linked clearly demonstrates.
And you’re missing all the huge server farms that Netflix and all of the streaming services, use and power serving the fiber optic/cable lines and the home internet modem electric use. And of course all that equipment gets dumped at some point too, which is an environmental cost we’re not accounting for here.
We can go on and on here to expand the life cycle on both sides of this, but the basic comparison on the factors that count the most clearly show that when you get to 4K 360 megabyte + files, you cross the line where discs are unequivocally better for the environment than streaming.
Besides, you just quote a link for one outdated article that I can’t tell if it’s even counting HD versus SD, let alone 4K, and then a cherry picked bit information you found on the European website — versus my reviewing multiple online reports and repeating the calculations — I’m comfortable that my information is representative of the right calculations and I’m not cherry picking a couple things like you are to try to win an argument on Trekmovie.com…lol
My goodness, you’re dense. The server farms and network are included in the streaming numbers. Maybe actually read up on the numbers you quote.
And maybe you can provide a source for those 935 grams of C02 for 4K streaming while you’re at it.
No, I was referring to the eventual disposal costs of that sever equipment when they upgrade it, which happens every few years, and the power I was referring to was the power of both the hub for the Internet ISP provider (be it cable, fiber or other), and their own modem that they provide the consumer (not the consumers own router, which is then connected to it). None of this is covered in the cost model in that SINGLE, outdated article you provided — and the author of that article doesn’t even bother to tell us whether they used SD or HD, but it’s obvious that they were not calculating it for 4K streaming.
The 935 figure was based on multiplying the SD CO2 figure by 17 — and the 17 I derived from taking an average on several articles I was reading…I actually spent about 3 hours looking at this given it was so interesting. For example, there are multiple reports on the shiftproject-dot-org website, and their latest conclusion is that the amount of CO2 difference between 4K and SD for 30 min of streaming is between 4 and 7, but another article suggested it was as much as 30 times, and a couple others were in the middle of this range, so I used a rough average given the difference in the literatures, 17. But even if you use the lower numbers, then at 4K, the difference in C02 between streaming and discs are basically a wash, so there you have it even if you use more conservative numbers/assumptions.
But by all means, continue with you your cherry picking, because you must be correct on this to preserve your “gotcha” original response to me here, of course. ;-)
Like I said before: You don’t understand the numbers you’re using:
1) Your starting value of 55 g CO2e per hour is probably based on this report by the Carbon Trust: https://www.carbontrust.com/our-work-and-impact/guides-reports-and-tools/carbon-impact-of-video-streaming (or other websites who simply repeat the number).
2) If you actually look at how that number is derived (the full reported is linked on the website), this is an average over all streaming users, it is not a value specifically for SD streaming. And secondly, this value includes emissions for data centers, content delivery networks, internet transmission, home modems/routers, peripherals (like streaming set-top boxes) and viewing devices (like TV, tablet, phones).
3) The report also provides example numbers for different video qualities and viewing devices: e.g. 58 g CO2e for FHD on a 50″ smart TV and 16 g CO2e for SD video on a laptop. Again: This is the total sum over the streaming service side, internet transmission and viewer side.
4) There is a full chapter in the report on the difference in energy use between SD, HD and UHD and also on cellular network vs. fixed network. But this only makes up a small share of the total average value of 55 g CO2e.
5) So basically, there is absolutely no basis for your 55 * 17 calculation.
6) Lastly, the number you provided for 4K discs is only for the production of the discs. It does not include your blu-ray player or your TV when you actually watch your discs, which are included in the number for streaming. So you would need to add them to the emissions numbers for 4K UHD discs.
In summary, your original claim has no basis in facts. Your number for streaming is far too high and your number for discs is far too low, making the comparison meaningless.
As I pointed out earlier, there is more to the total environmental impact of streaming vs. discs than just the CO2 emissions numbers during operation. The research article I linked two days ago gives some examples but it does not include impacts of disposal at end-of-life.
As you say, server hardware in data centers is replaced after several years. But think about it: A streaming server will have served, what, hundreds of thousands of viewing hours when it is taken out of service. That’s a lot of blu-ray discs not going to a landfill.
Look, I get it, you like your home media collection. Standard blu-ray and 4K UHD discs provide better picture and sound than streaming. No argument about that.
But you got triggered by a small off-hand comment by Luke that there might be negative side-effects to discs and got all defensive – ironically something you accused other users of. Unfortunately, the defense you decided on was wrong. No biggie, it happens.
If others prefer streaming, be it for convenience, lack of space or even for environmental reasons, that’s their decision. If you prefer discs, that’s your decision.
Well you did your homework this time, so thank you for coming back with more details. This is a case where: (1) I can find data online and you can find data online that supports each of our arguments; and (2) Each of us can point out parts of the life cycle env analysis that have not been included in the literature that we’re reviewing online — on both sides of this. For example I have discs that I have watched over five times — for streaming, you have to download it five separate times in most cases, giving discs a major CO2 advantage.
I know this from all that I have read — When it was just comparing SD streaming and 1080P streaming to discs, there was a definite environmental case that could be made for streaming over disc regarding CO2. However, when you get to 4K, at worst the comparison approaches a wash, and at best, discs are better for the environment.
And please don’t try to tell me that eventually when the streaming services crazily start streaming in 8K (thinking it’s a competitive advantage that can sucker consumers) that that’s going to be better than a future, hypothetical 8K disc — that’s 15 freaking TB for a 2 hour movie, and will require 122 GB per min data transfers. At that point the CO2 comparison will be like comparing crypto currency to paper money.
Not to burst your bubble, but Netflix recommends 5 Mbps for FHD and 15 Mbps for 4K. Extrapolating that, 8K streaming would probably clock in around 45 Mbps or 340 MB per minute.
The maximum bitrate for 4K discs is 144 Mbps according to specifications, compared to around 50 Mbps for standard blu-ray. So 8K discs would probably end up below 500 Mbps.
Will streaming services start to offer 8K? I have no idea. It’s possible because TV manufacturers will try to push 8K TVs on people, and what good is an 8K TV if there’s no matching content? Do I personally think that 8K is necessary? No. Not at normal viewing distances/sizes at home.
1 TB BR discs are here (not for media use yet), and multi-terabyte discs are certainly feasible. If they can’t speed up the bit rate transfer enough they could simply build a RAM buffer into the new machines and/or do multi-reads at once — just good engineering! That data rates for most people to be able to stream 8K would obviously more of an impediment than designing a new BR 8K machine.
And that’s not even taking rewatching into account.
Hahaha. I actually have Insurrection on Laserdisc.
The cover art is…sure something. Did they commission that on Etsy?
And who knew that Richard Chamberlain played Riker!
Joined by Kevin Spacey as Data, and… is that Ben Kingsley as Picard, maybe? 😃
Joined by Kevin Spacey as Data
Dude, you had me cracking up big time on that one…yeah, I see that now! LOL
Generations – 3/5 almost there. but really needed to be more “Yesterdays Enterprise” (ironic considering its the same director)
First Contact – 5/5 classic. up there with The Wrath of Khan
Insurrection – 2/5 worst Trek film of all despite a few nice scenes. TNGs ‘Beyond’
Nemesis – 2.5/5 seems to be better now than in 2002. not that bad as a space action film, like TNGs ‘Into Darkness’ (until Picard s3).
Not bad, but I personally would penalize generations a full point lower than you have because of the inexplicable Bridge on the Captain death scene of Kirk
I loved Insurrection. (Minus the humor which didn’t work for me.) I thought it was bold to introduce new aliens and have a message in the great tradition of Star Trek. I always hear it’s like an extended episode of TNG but I’m ok with that. Plus, Jonathan Frakes did a great job capturing key moments for the characters, especially Geordi. (As someone who has battled bad vision my entire life, I do relate to Geordi in that scene.) I’m going to buy INS and FC on 4K. They are special films and worth the upgrade.
I always skip the parts with the away team, the sing along, the caves, and go straight to the space battles. The Ent-E fly-by of the collector-array-sail thing as it burns in space is a cool shot.
I love seeing Riker in command. When Frakes is on the bridge, he has this professional striking demeanor that yells, “I belong on this bridge.” He’s one of my favorite first officers. That’s another reason I love the film. Id follow Riker in space battle anytime.
I agree. The Ent-E fly-by shot was fantastic.
Same! I love Riker and he’s just as great in the movies as the shows. He’s a big reason why I even like Insurrection. He was great in that.
‘we’re through running from those bastards….’
Insurrection is one of the movies I have liked more the more I watched it. I never hated it or anything, it just felt like Beyond did, a big two part episode; not something that really drives people to the theaters.
I hear you, but the Picard-Anij romance was so lame — they had no chemistry and the lines were just so freaking cheesy.
Oh Jean-Luc, have you ever experienced a perfect moment in time?
LOL, so groan-worthy
This would be something I would be interested in getting if I still bought Blu rays or even had a Blu ray player. I have thought about buying all the films some day at least so maybe in the future.
I really wished they would bring over the round table Blu Ray along with these sets :(
What do you mean? It does list “Trek Roundtable” for all four of them. 📀✅️ Was it its own disc before, and now it’s just split up, or is it a whole ‘nother special feature?
There was a bonus disk with the original series movie blu ray called “captains summit” and another with the next gen blu ray called “Star Trek evolutions” that I wish would have transferred over.
Ah, thanks for clarifying! 👍
I, too, can’t stand when companies omit special features on subsequent releases (which usually have more space available, not less).
Why these studios don’t upgrade the audio to Atmos is beyond me. I refuse to upgrade on image alone. I know lots of people who feel the same, so we don’t buy these
Then the studios b*tch about low sales numbers and stop doing 4k upgrades.
What’s most disappointing is these are the types of films that beg for Atmos.
Shame, Paramount. Shame.
EXACTLY right!!! They cry about low sales numbers and don’t understand that MANY people not only want an picture update but audio also! Yea imagine the Enterprise-D saucer section crash scene in “Generations” for example how awesome it would be in Atmos with the saucer flying over your head..
Why is only TMP only in Atmos of the old crew?
A joke that the others aren’t and I won’t be buying the next set, if they’re not in Atmos! Just a joke!!
“Why is only TMP only in Atmos of the old crew?”
– That’s what I’m asking myself too!
“Just a joke!!”
– You mean your previous sentence was meant as a joke.. Or you mean that Paramount does no Atmos mixes is a joke (bad)?
Object based sound like atmos or dts:x are indeed revolutionary which some folks are don’t really aware of. It’s not only added height speaker channels but a different software within which makes the sound more realistically among other drastically improvements.
Really a shame they used the old sound formats instead of the current standards.
Anything known about what kind of extra treatment or processing the 4K film will get?
So once again no original theatrical audio? Wish i could get rid of my DVDs and Laserdiscs.
really no atmos?? this makes no sense.. not sure I will buy