Details & Artwork for Captains Log & TNG Box Set DVDs July 17, 2007
by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: DVD/Blu-ray , trackbackBesides the TOS-R HD DVDs, there will be two other Star Trek releases on DVD this year. The first release is another ‘Fan Collective’ called "Captains Log" with episodes chosen by each of Trek’s captains: Kirk (William Shatner), Picard (Patrick Stewart), Sisko (Avery Brooks), Janeway (Kate Mulgrew) and Archer (Scott Bakula). The set will include new special features from each of the actors as well (details below) and is released on July 24th. The second release is a new complete box set for Star Trek: The Next Generation coming out October 3rd (just in time for the 20th anniversary). That set will include new special features as well
More details below
Fan Collective: Captain’s Log (5 Disk Set) [retail: $38.99] [AMAZON: $29.19]
Disc 1 — The Original Series
- Introduction to ‘Captain’s Log‘ with William Shatner
- CAPTAIN PICK: "City on the Edge of Forever"
- Introduction with William Shatner and Joan Collins
- FAN PICK 1: "The Enterprise Incident"
- FAN PICK 2: "Balance of Terror"
- Bonus Features:
- What Makes a Good Captain?
- The Importance of ‘The Captain’s Log’
- Captain Kirk’s Legacy
Disc 2 — The Next Generation
- CAPTAIN PICK: "In Theory"
- Introduction with Patrick Stewart
- FAN PICK 1: "Chain of Command"
- Introduction with Patrick Stewart
- FAN PICK 2: "Darmok"
- Introduction with Patrick Stewart
- Bonus Features:
- The Importance of ‘The Captain’s Log’
- Playing a Captain
- Looking Back
- Star Trek and the Stage
- Picard’s Future
Disc 3 — Deep Space Nine
- CAPTAIN PICK: "Far Beyond the Stars"
- Introduction with Avery Brooks
- FAN PICK 1: "What You Leave Behind"
- FAN PICK 2: "In the Pale Moonlight"
- Bonus Features:
- A Captain and a Father
- Sisko as Emissary
- Directing
- Imagining the Future
- Social Commentary
- Aspirations
- "Star Trek’s" Impact
Disc 4 — Voyager
- CAPTAIN PICK: "Counterpoint"
- Introduction with Kate Mulgew
- FAN PICK 1: "The Omega Directive"
- Introduction with Kate Mulgrew
- FAN PICK 2: "Flashback"
- Introduction with Kate Mulgrew
- Bonus Features:
- The Importance of ‘The Captain’s Log’
- Captain Janeway’s Best Qualities
- What Makes a Good Captain?
- Janeway’s Future
- Looking Back
Disc 5 — Enterprise
- CAPTAIN PICK: "Judgement"
- Introduction with Scott Bakula
- FAN PICK 1: "These are the Voyages"
- Introduction with Scott Bakula
- FAN PICK 2: "First Flight"
- Bonus Features:
- What Makes a Good Captain?
- The Importance of ‘The Captain’s Log’
- Captain Archer’s Best Qualities
- Looking Back
- Closing Statement for ‘Captain’s Log‘ with Scott Bakula
Artwork:
Star Trek: The Next Generation Box Set [retail: $455.95] [AMAZON: $359.09]
Complete series plus one ‘bonus disk’ with new documentaries. Some details on those at Wil Wheaton’s blog.
Artwork:
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FAN PICK 1: “These are the Voyages”
fan pick???
The set looks OK, but I’m getting spoiled by this sight. I’d love to see collections with some of the extras we’re enjoying here.
Yeah I calls BS on These are the Voyages being a fan pick.
It’s a shame that Stewart went for an episode that he directed rather than one that best represents the character of Picard. I would have much preferred “The Inner Light” to “In Theory”.
Nice packaging on the TNG series box set. :)
FAV extras snarfed up free here on Trekmovie.com that I would like to see in the Remastered DVD’s:
*That British special “After They Were Famous”
*The Interview with Nick Meyers
*”Who Mourns for Mugatu”
*”Star Track”
*”Rocket Man” (any version including Stewie’s)
I thought the “After they were famous” was to be on the set? Thought I read that somewhere anyway. Allready have the whole series on DVD, why are they releasing it again rather than waiting/prepairing for the new format?
The Fan Picks suck…no Inner Light and These are the Voyages…What fans voted on that?
Gosh will this ever end?
How many more times will Paramount/CBS squeeze the “golden goose” named Star Trek, and repackage the same old Trek episodes? Why not just release a new DVD with the interviews and other extras, instead of making fans buy all the episodes again?
After I finish purchasing the remaining seasons of DS9 that I don’t own, as well at the upcoming TOS remastered DVDs, I won’t be purchasing any more Trek for a very, very long time.
Some trekkies have to own just about every thing Trek, but this Trek fan is finished given the stockholders of Paramount any more of my hard earned cash!
Mike :o
TATV? Seriously?!
Fan pick These Are the Voyages??? Which fans? Oh I know, the ones from the Mirror universe.
I believe it was the “Fan Pick……..for worst episode”. While I don’t have as big a problem with the ep as some (though I do have my problems with it…) I don’t see it as being picked by the fans.
These Are the Voyages!!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
I for one liked “These are the Voyages.” Sure! It was a poor series finale. But it was a nice sentimental franchise finale. It gave a nod all the way back to TOS and nicely skipped the baggage I might add (DS9 and Voyager). But the fact that the only 15 people that were voting for these episodes were the same 15 that liked the episode is hysterical.
These Are the Voyages!!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
I for one liked “These are the Voyages.” Sure! It was a poor series finale. But it was a nice sentimental franchise finale. It gave a nod all the way back to TOS and nicely skipped the baggage I might add (DS9 and Voyager). But the fact that the only 15 people that were voting for these episodes were the same 15 that liked the episode is hysterical.
I wonder…..Will The Balance Of Terror episode be the old original one or the updated one? Wouldn’t make too much sense to see or buy the original.
Just a suggestion to those of you who would like to own all the season sets but are put off by the cost, there is absolutely no reason to pay retail for new copies of any of these. I have 100% of all the episodes from all the series and I’ll bet you I paid total what they are asking for the TNG series set. If you go to Amazon and look at any given set you’ll notice that through Amazon Marketplace you can pick up for a fraction of the SRP used and sometimes new but overstocked copies and save a bundle.
This is not like the old days in the used record shop and optical media is not vinyl. Properly cared for discs are indistinguishable from the new ones except the shrink wrap is off. So what.
For example, the Series Set for Voyager is listed at $696.99 but through the market place you can get it NIB for $163. That’s all 7 seasons. If you watch eBay you can get even better deals if you are patient.
I buy and sell on the used market all the time. Unless you are one of those folks that absolutely must have it now, buying media online is the only way to go. Just be a smart shopper. Look at people’s seller rating. Only buy from sources that have sold in volume and have a 5 star rating on Amazon, a 99.7% feedback or better on eBay and by the way, check out Half.com (tied to eBay) they have great deals.
Don’t be a drone and pay full retail and through the nose just because you think NIB with the shrink wrap is the only way to go. For collectors, the used market is fabulous!
Hmm, is “City on the Edge of Forever” the CBS-D remastered version, by any chance…? I’m guessing not.
Still, I’d love to see the 2007 Joan Collins with the Shat, if they are indeed together for the introduction piece.
So if the Next Generation is suppose to get the remastered treatment then I don’t wonder why they are releasing the series again. $$$
#16 — No TNG isn’t going to be remastered, there really isn’t anything to get remastered, TNG is a product of the 80s and as such the final product was edit on video tape, effectively limiting it’s quality to no better then standard DVD can offer.
Collins and Shatner, is it just audio or a filmed interview?
But the have stated that the HD process will have the same effect the the Next Gen series effects as the original one. While no official word is out the are indeed talking about doing it.
#17- Has TNG or the rest being re-mastered been put down for sure? While I don’t consider it needing to be done I’ve read hints that it might and what would have to be done given the editing on tape (going back to the footage and recreating the cg I believe). I think I read that on the tvshowsondvd site in regards to the tos HD-DVDs.
Anyway can’t wait for the TOS-HD sets!
No thanks to both.
For about the first 5 years, I faithfully viewed and recorded the first run episodes of Star Trek The Next Generation every week. Those tapes (with rare exception) have not been viewed since and probably won’t be.
It really wasn’t a bad show. I like watching it back then. It’s just that none of the episodes really stick out in my mind as being rewatchable, not even the Spock and Scotty episodes.
I am one of those guys who has been running around to pawn shops trying to get even just episodes. As you can imagine, the availability and quality is dodgey at best. I am still quite excited to own the remastered version of TOS and don’t mind getting NIB shrink wrapped eps at full price because I do have to have them asap. But thanks for the suggestion, Michael. I’m going to do just that.
How any sane person can keep falling for the same crap over and over again by buying that ^%$#& junk they put out every couple of years, is way beyond my comprehension. But I guess somebody has to do it…
Sheesh.
Stewart picked one he directed, but Shatner actually went with his “objective” choice. In one of Shatner’s books he says his actual favorite episode is “The Devil in the Dark”, not the finished episode but his memory of making it, because it was during filming he got the news his father had died and he felt how supportive the cast and crew was being to him while he worked to finish his scenes before leaving for the funeral.
Oh God here we go again.
CBS and Paramount are cheap asses when it comes to spending money for anything. They will not go back and rescan the film that TNG was shot on for a re-master.
Unfortunately, Matt is right.
The huge undertaking to get all the raw film elements out of storage (assuming they exist), re-edit them, and then recomposite all of the visual effects has to be insanely expensive. And don’t forget TNG, DS9, and Voyager would all need the process to be brought into the high-def era.
Unfortunately for us that want to see TNG HD, Matt is again right.
The only thing tat would make TNG-HD, VOY-HD, and DS9-HD possible is an amazing, gift from God, genius level, automated scanning system that could cut the production cost down to below reasonable levels.
Imagine, practically, repeating every step of every TNG/DS9/VOY episode’s post production, plus costs of research, reconstruction, and restoration. It could be more expensive than doing a new show.
CBS has to feel the analog version will no longer sell (in syndication), and that an HD version will sell enough to pay off the investment in doing it. I doubt we’re there yet. I predict we’ll see a few best episodes released in HD to test the waters. All the series’ premieres and “The Best of Both Worlds” would be something.
I hope they’re not too cheap to do at least 4 episodes. Al, that would be great. Maybe doing a best of HD set would be the answer. I’m up for that for sure!
After all of the blast posts Matt and I sent each other a few weeks ago I never thought of what #29 wrote. Maybe AL is magic after all. :)
TNG has aged WORSE than TOS. in term of tone, chraracters, that goes for the films too – ‘captain an alien vessel is about to destroy us.’……. ‘Confrence.’ Troi, annoying klingon, wheaton, etc. The days of TNG being considered superior to TOS (yes it really used to be) are LONG gone.
For now. The cycle will turn again.
And TATV does, indeed, suck.
#32 – No, sorry, those days are not long gone, overall, TNG is better than TOS. The best TOS are still not as good as the best TNG, and the worst TNG is still better than the worst TOS.
Anyway, I really wish that the TNG episodes were remastered, not for effects and so on, but for color. #17 what you say is not true; it’s true that the resolution cannot be improved, but color correction is still possible, and in the earlier seasons of TNG the color balance and saturation are off.
Well if TATV is included this could be evidence enough the fans should never ever be involved in the decision process for Star Trek.
Every message board I read hated this episode lol.
I got no problems over the fan sets… I have all of them because I didn’t like every episode of the spin offs. The ones that were selected were fine but TATV?! WTH? Well…at least none of these show up on the other collections.
No, it won’t.
Say what? I must’ve missed that.
#32
In your opinion.
That aside…you’ll have plenty of time to rewatch them in reruns for a very long, long, long time.
People clamoured, discussed, debated, begged, lobbied, and prayed for a Star Trek film for 10 years after the cancellation of TOS. The first film was the first film in history produced because fans *demanded* it.
I don’t see very many people clamouring for a new TNG film. Granted, they immediately went from the tv series into their group of films without a delay, yet still the 20 million viewers per week neilsen ratings didn’t translate over to box office bankability or buttoxes in the seats. Generations, the introductory adventure for TNG crew, made scarcely more than Trek VI, 3 years earlier, whereas TMP adjusted for inflation is still 20 plus years later the highest grossing Trek film to date, as well as selling the most tickets.
The pendulum may indeed sing back to where people are at least intrigued by TNG again, but personal enjoyment aside, I really don’t see how people can say TNG made the sheer cultural splash and impact TOS did. There isn’t even a 20th anniversary TNG film adventure on the horizon like Trek IV.
Beside the nice artwork, are they going to re master TNG in Hi-Def?
Any good reason to buy this?
The first film was the first film in history produced because fans *demanded* it. 38. Josh T. ( Kirk is to Star Trek as Taco Tico is to texmex) Kirk Esquire’ – July 17, 2007 – josh as I understand a few thing lead to TMP. The idea of TMP was originaly an episode of Phase II and was changed and expanded to be a Feature Film, after paramount decided it wanted to go up against the Popular “The Star Wars” movie. There was plans for two other movies that fell flat before TMP. Indeed there was fan demand, but TMP was not entirely made because the fans wanted it, it was made because the time was finaly right.
Just a quick note on re-mastering TNG for HD. The original negatives could be scanned and re-edited and the original sound re-mixed to 7.1 in a fairly straight forward process. All the footage is timecoded and could be resolved in HD from the original edit decision list. However, recreating the effects is the problem.
Some of the blue screen Enterprise shots I believe were actually finished as film, so those are straight forward, but all the “video – ey” effects (phasers, glowing blobs etc.) would have to redone. I personalyl think I could re-create most of those shots in my NLE and in After Effects no problem – but effects like the crystaline entity and the like would be tricky.
Another option (and don;t laugh – I’m serious) is to use up-rezing software to bring the 720 x 486 broadcast origs up to 1920 X 1080P or 1080I. I’ve seen old video news footage treated this way for a an HD doc I’m cutting and it works really well – and it looks better than original. I would defintely consider buying TNG in HD if they treated it this way.
41. seangh – July 17, 2007 – Great points. I’m a sound engineer and remixing the sound to 7.1 is achievable and not overly hard, I could do it! As for visual effects I have less knowledge in this area, but this is where the costs would come in. The only thing that worries me is that yet again people are going to be in-undated with Trek. I
I agree for the most part that TNG can be easily brought to HD, However the entire First season needs to be seriously looked at as far as re-doing the special effects, Case in point the forcefield from encounter at farpoint and especially the creature from skin of evil, (Just the scenes where the creature is moving back and fourth from the crashed shuttle) Back in the day it was kinda cool , but these days it looks kinda lame. Why re-do any of the phaser shots? ??? I don’t see any reason to buy the new set unless of course, will wheaton had filmed behind the scenes footage using a betamax camera….hahhahahaahhahahhahhahahhahhaha….
AFAIK, with TNG being posted on tape, while they’d have the original timecodes, the new HD transfers would inevitably have variations, unless the tapes carry the original film markers.
Up-rezzing and restoration of the tape stock would really be the only sensible option at the moment. The audio-visual quality of so many shows from the 1980s really is dire, compared with both before and after.
Goes to show that, while the old TOS episodes might’ve been cut on slower, old fashioned film, the old-fashioned production techniques have really paid off in the HD era!!
I’m looking forward to seeing the TOS-R DVD/HD-DVD/hypothetical BluRay release: I bought season one of TOS on DVD a couple of years back and was so appalled at the picture quality, I didn’t buy seasons two or three!
Fan pick for Ent – Thes Are The Voyages???!!!
FAN PICK??!!
LMAO! More like Bermans Pick!
Surely fans would have chose the mirror universe eps or Twilight
TATV!!! LMAO AGAIN!
Seeing the “huge” rollout of support from Paramount and fandom celebrating the 20th anniversary of TNG, I don’t think we’ll be seeing any HD attempts at that series anytime soon.
I just hope the HD TOS sets are coming in blue ray as well as HD. IF they are exclusively offered on HD, I guess I’ll have to pass.
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TNG BOX SET -PRICE TOO HIGH
#50 Price too high?
I hate companies that release the same movie over and over again. The Next Gen issue doesn’t seem to be the case. This is essentially a physical repackaging and a price cut. Those who both the series in 2002 paid well over $700. Now you can get it in one box for a little less money. And they through in a bonus disc.
And the Captain’s Log set. Let’s face it, not everyone wants to spend thousands of dollars for the complete series. The Klingon Collection etc are nice packages for the more casual fan. They make great Father’s Day gifts.
As for the remastering. I don’t want to get into a long technical discussion, but I’m sorry many folks simply don’t know what they’re talking about. TNG was never ever on any format which would take any advantage whatsoever from HD. There are not, nor should there be any discussions at Paramount about HD masters for this film. It’s analogous to remastering a silent film to be shown in a movie theatre with sound.
Enterprise? Sure, they can make some high def discs, and I hope they do someday. But not TNG.
“Goes to show that, while the old TOS episodes might’ve been cut on slower, old fashioned film, the old-fashioned production techniques have really paid off in the HD era!!”
Brought a tear to my eye. I’m not alone!
I don’t care what any other cinematographer says, film still kicks ass!
24p baby, 24p
#46-
It’s apt. Let 20 years of it be its celebration. All good things come to an end, you know. Remember?
#52 “I don’t care what any other cinematographer says, film still kicks ass! ”
It really does when compared to the way most programs were produced in the 80’s. What a down turn in picture quality the 80’s were. It is only now that digital has become common that film has met its equal. Video tape is, well, you know…
Enterprise is the only post TOS series that can be re-issued in hidef without any extra work since it was shot in hidef widescreen format. I had really hoped that when those came out they would be offered in both SD and HD and the same time. But as has been said before, Paramount would never pass up a chance to squeeze the goose again and again and again…
Regarding the quality of the TOS DVDs out right now, I don’t agree with the earlier posting stating the picture quality was bad – I’ve had them on VHS and LVD and compared to those the picture quality is great. Even in SD you can see details that were not present in the earlier releases. The example that comes to mind is Where no man has gone before. In one of the sickbay scenes you can see swet on Kirk’s forhead no doubt from the hot lights. Spock’s makeup is obvious too. Weave in the fabric of the uniforms etc. All the comparison screen captures shown here in the episode reviews are from the DVDs.
is that episode “These Are The Voyages” canon?
#56 “is that episode “These Are The Voyages” canon?”
It’s not canon in my eyes. Heck, the whole darn Enterprise series isn’t even canon. The series is more of a prequel to the Next Generation than a prequel to the original series. And how could the writers be so dumb founded to not realize that ships of this time didn’t even have “ship to ship visual communication.” yet during the first romulan episode they see a romulan ship decloak right in front of them. 100 years later when Kirk and crew witness the exact same thing it’s all new to everybody.
I despise Enterprise. It was bad. Really bad. For the fans of the show however, I felt more insulted that they didn’t even end the series as an Enterprise episode but as a Next Generation episode.
“The series is more of a prequel to the Next Generation than a prequel to the original series.”
That how it felt – esp season 1 and 2
as u say – It felt more of a prequel to TNG and a sequel to First Contact (Cochrene being mentioned all the time..help from the Vulcans etc) – it sort of used FC as a sprinboard – even did a sequel ep wiith Regeneration in S 2
Its like TOS was never gonna exist…until little references in season 3 and then in 4 virtually every ep referenced TOS
“These Are The Voyages”
How were these “Fan Picks” picked? No way people voted on that episode, and I can’t believe even Scott Bakula would have wanted this one on the set. The only reason I can see for it is because you have Riker and Troi in it. Its just like “Flashback” being one of the Voyager episodes on here.
I doubt many people are going to buy this DVD set. If you are going to call it the “fan collective”, you pick shows that the fans want. Otherwise, you are just showing how out of touch you are with your audience.
Re 54 –
You keep using that ‘All Good Things’ line like you think it’s really clever, but nobody’s noticed it yet!
Ya ain’t so clever, Shadow. But maybe you should try going back to your rants about how it’s “Our Time” again… ;-)
#55, Right on!
I do believe they have stated that they (Paramount) already have pristine masters of Enterprise in HD, the show was produced/edited/mastered/FXed in HD from the get go.
As stated before, they even shot the 4th season in HD 24p!
There should be ZERO excuse for not having Enterprise/TOS on HDDVD/Blu-ray within the next 3 years or less. Period.
Greed determines many things in the DVD world, but I doubt the Enterprise release in SD was one of them. It’s only just now becoming feasible to release TV shows on a high def format. Blu-Ray and HD-DVD were still just ideas back in 04/05. Enterprise was released in the best format possible for the time.
Well, I am severely disappointed in the choice for including “These are the Voyages” particularly when as mentioned before “Twilight” and “In a Mirror, Darkly” got such good reviews (By fans and non fans alike). I saw that insult of an “episode” at most twice, and have never seen it since, and do not plan on seeing it again.
The TNG repackaging and re-release is cool, but it’s sadly to much money for me. No, I don’t mean it’s to pricey (Because let’s face it, its one hell of a deal, and you get the entire series, with a new package that goes with VOY/DS9/ENT releases), at least for now (Maybe a better paying job would allow me to raise the money…).
Just a side comment, IMO, if any series needs repackaging? IT’s DS9, the way you have to access the disc blows, not the holders themselves, but the flaps you have to open, I know someone who has, through regular use even, broken sets on all but one season, simply due to the box design.
As for TNG getting remastered and new effects? Nah, I really don’t see to much need for it, save for showing more exterior shots in starship combat moments (Due to the series not really having a budget for that). I’ll admit, the Ent-D in TATV looked pretty cool, still though, I believe the series is fine.
Honestly, let’s not get into a debate whether Enterprise is cannon or not, it’s an official production, it was on screen, it’s cannon, deal with it. When I see stuff like that, I see a problem not with Paramount, CBS, the producers, or the writers, but the fans themselves. The honest truth. It’s REALLY annoying to see the entire series bashed because a certain ship was shown preforming a certain…whatever. Yes, it’s a mistake, but come on, TNG, VOY, and DS9 along with the movies made them to, I don’t hear people wanting to de-canonize those.
As for the series being placed on a High Def DVD or something, that’d be cool as mentioned it was already produced for High Def play back, particularly the fourth (And sadly final) season.
Long story short: “Who the hell voted for TATV?”
“As for the remastering. I don’t want to get into a long technical discussion, but I’m sorry many folks simply don’t know what they’re talking about. TNG was never ever on any format which would take any advantage whatsoever from HD. There are not, nor should there be any discussions at Paramount about HD masters for this film. It’s analogous to remastering a silent film to be shown in a movie theatre with sound.”
Well that’s just not correct is it? TNG was filmed on 35mm film, which is considered High Definition. Unfortunately for us now, it was post-produced on crappy old NTSC video tape, from which it’s not possible to produce proper HD remasters. As has been said before, to create an HD version of each episode would essentially require a new HD telecine from the original elements, and an essential re-conforming, remixing, and a recreation in HD of the visual effects. This would plainly be exceedingly expensive, therefor making it commercially unviable, but I’d say it’s absolutely nothing like remastering a silent film to be shown in a movie theatre with sound.
They could go down the Babylon 5 route and rescan the straight footage, and slot in the SD versions of the effects shots, but it would look fairly rubbish. As Babylon 5 does.
#60-
Who the &^^%$ cares if they notice it or not? I’m not here to convince you or anyone else of anything, just to post my thoughts. What do I care about your take on the intent, “clever” or merely sublime? Whatever you want to think, go ahead. Who’s stopping you? Your time and money, not mine. You ain’t got to make no speech, just hop to it and do it. Don’t talk about it.
Your time’s come and gone. Ranting about it here on TrekMovie.com’s boards ain’t gonna change that, only ranting at the only board that counts: Paramount’s Board of Directors, and they’ve made their decision. Live with it or move on, ’cause neither you nor anyone else is gonna change one little thing about anything.
Case closed. Court adjourned.
come on people stop with the sniping!
Sure thing, Anthony.
Just want to point out, though, that Shadow’s going after strawmen. His entire post has NOTHING to do with anything I’ve been saying on this site. Actually, he’s kind of got the same reply to everything…
#66-
Very well, Anthony. I shall endeavour to abide by your rules. Your site is quite good and impartial, and has the potential to become an internet powerhouse along the lines of TrekWeb or Christian’s TrekNation. Keep it real and keep the inmates civil and you’ll do fine. :D
#65-
Then think carefully before opening your mouth and proving that you have nothing to say, and I won’t have to bother reminding you. :P
What a joke, These Are The Voyages was a horrible slap in the face for Enterprise fans AND the cast of Enterprise, Twilight should be in it’s place.
“These Are The Voyages” was an abortion. Inserting Riker and Troi as the “chorus” to end one of the truly remarkable Trek series was an affront to the fans and, moreso, to the cast of “Enterprise”. How this ended up being a “fan pick” is beyond me.
Excuse me. Choices aside, despite thinking otherwise, this board nor it’s posters are representative of all Trek Fandom. There are actually other folks out there. Really. I’m not kidding you. There are. I’ve seen them. Not just fans, but everyday, nameless, faceless Joes and Janes who ensure that everday life is not only possible, but bearable. Sane, too, I hasten to add.
As far as finding fault with the Fan Picks, ever think Paramount polled some of them to get the final results? Ever think ’bout that, hmmmm? Wellllll….????
Classic Trek’s results were spot on. Including Shatner’s pick, BOT and TEI are among CT’s finest eps, and my own. Golly. I wasn’t polled, but gee, they managed to pick MY favorites somehow.
Christ.
These are the Voyages is a crappy episode the way they treated the Enterprise cast and killing Trip off. the cast do not like this episode. And have said so more than once in interviews and conventions. I think the should’ve picked something else.
Genial, lastima que en Argentina no se hacen y ni sacan las series en DVD de Star Trek, lastima. Porque se venderian.
#63 If it’s not on the wall, it’s not canon.
I don’t remember the TNG episode TATV. Could someone briefly summarize that episode for me and tell me why so many of the posters here think it’s so terrible? I’m very curious now to rent this episode and see what all these negative posts are all about.
Mike :o
These Are The Voyages was the finale of the series, Enterprise. It centered around Riker and Troy in the 24th centurs viewing a holodeck recreation of Captain Archer’s final mission. the scenes wiht Riker and Troy are set in the timespan of the TNG episode “the Pegaseus” Poory integrated i might add but otherwise a decent episode but nowhere near the level of finale that All Good Things Was. No where even close!
I seriously doubt that any actual fans of “Enterprise” (and there are quite a few of us out here) would have chosen the series finale episode of the as a “fan pick”. TATV was *not* well-received, and general consensus seems to be that it was a bad way to end the series. What is the point of saying that fans chose this episode?
In regard to the capt’s log
Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a lanslide….
Don’t ask me why Queen came to mind….
I’m glad I didn’t purchase The Next Generation yet because I can get the complete series for Christmas.