First Official Picture Of The USS Enterprise January 17, 2008
by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Star Trek (2009 film) , trackbackAOL/Moviephone has got the exclusive on the first glimps of the USS Enterprise from the new Star Trek.
Here she is…being built. Presumably an image from the teaser.
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Redesigned?
At first glance it appears pretty faithful to the TOS Enterprise. The nacelles seem a bit over sized and the skin is more like the movie era Enterprise, but I think everyone’s childhood is safe from being ravaged.
an even higher res version is available at AOL/Moviephone
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I’ve got a good feeling about this!
Let me be the FIRST to say…she’s alive
Please people no bitching
Why hello there! :-)
It looks good.
2 LOL.
wow
wow…looks like it will be faithful to the original. Is it me or do the Nacelles look an awful lot like Gabriel Koerner’s concept?
Wow this looks very cool!!!!!!!!
UH-OH…
…the LETTERING is different, folks. Get ready for the sh*tstorm.
Pants = soiled. Awesome! This is bigger than Duke Nukem Forever’s impending release :D
That looks great!
Yee haw!
Nice… Maybe I will go see Cloverfield.
#8 - Yep, looks a lot like Koerner’s. I hated his concept, too “busy” and “industrial,” but I think we’re stuck with it.
Pretty faithful to the original. Faithful enough that I’m cool with it. One weird thing is the nacelles. They look like they might… transform?
LOOKIN GOOD!!!!
Hooray! We can relax…. it’s TOS ship with TMP detailing…just what I was hoping for!
However, this ship is way before the timeframe for the movie… we are probably seeing a special scene made just for the trailer, or maybe one thwt will be used under the opening credits showing the history of the ship.
I hated the “aztec” pattern on the movie enterprises. Gimme the pristine hull of the original.
woohoo!!! this whole bigger scope thing is exactly what im looking for!!
Ummm……wow!
Lettering is NOT CANNON! BOYCOTT!!!
I like it. Look close at the engines - there are slight fins along the length. Here are your wings folks!
Why is there steam rising from one of those open panels? Is the Enterprise being constructed IN San Francisco??
This looks great, better than I expected. Anyone planning to complain please save your breath (or fingers).
You know.. with that glare on the U in U.S.S. it kindof looks like an I.. as in I.S.S.
Sweet.
To quote the late great chief engineer:
“Aye, She’s a beauty, lad.”
#22
I think those ”fins” are supposed to be the updated coolers for the warp drive nacelles.
Freaking Sweet!
24 - Why can’t we complain? I don’t like the way it looks. Alas.
I just have to say that is so effing cool! Thank you, Roberto.
Mmmmmm………..can’t talk, looking! :)
Interesting proportions for the bridge bubble and nacelles. Maybe this is to accomodate a “grander” vision of the bridge, more in scope like the Cygnus from the Black Hole
Looks good. The engines are too big, but maybe only coz of the perspective. I think in movement it will work.
Exactly as I imagined her. Until now good job.
Other than the fact that the nacelles look bit too large, I’m extremely happy with the first look!
First time I’ve ever posted anything over here, but I have to say, the ship looks great!
I don’t knew, i just hope they have fixed thin neck line. I need to see more of this. Can we have some confirmation that this is authentic Enterprise for XI movie or do we haved to wait until 18 jan..
Looks like the covers for the nacalle caps are not in place yet, and we are seeing the interior of the blades that cause the light effects. Cool that they actually incorporate that into the actual ship! I can see why some thought “airplane engines,” it looks like a turbine!
Now im officialy stoked about this movie!
Best shot ever!
I CANT WAIT!
I like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cant wait to see the teaser !
#34 - I thought the same thing about the nacelles at first too, but looking at this drawing, it seems right on the dot:
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/heavycruiser_enterprise_up1.jpg
WOW. She looks BEAUTIFUL. This is everything we hoped for. We have matinee tickets for Cloverfield, and I can’t wait!!
Thanks, Anthony!
Oh man…this is going to bring down the entire US internet structure, and for good reason, hahaha
holy crap!!!!! aw man that looks sick!!!!
Hello, Big E
You are such a sweet beauty!
@33
I think in “the cage” the bridge bubble also was a bit different than in the rest of the serie. So the 1701 had a redesign even before the Refit.
awesome… the next 11 months is going to feel like a prison sentence.
“There she is… THERE she is!
First time I got goosebumps since they greenlit the movie
Look at the size of those honkin’ warp nacelles! Roberto, you guys ROCK! I can’t wait to we get a ‘full frontal’! LOL ;-)
First the cool sleek modern new logo, and then a rare glimpse into the skeleton of an absolutely iconic vessel.
Absolutely awesome trek fan day!
It could be that the larger nacelle ends are reflecting an earlier, more primitive version of the ship than what is seen in the movie. Remember it was constructed many years before Kirk and co came along.
That is GORGEOUS! WOW! Good construction shot - you can see that the nacelle caps are not on it yet, but round ports where the gold nacelle points would go in the middle!
I zoomed in, not much to offer from trying to peek at the exposed corridor areas, dang!
But, she’s gorgeous! Roberto, please pass word along that this is a wonderful job!
Holy crap! It loks like I am going to get the Big E just as I wanted, right down to the hull detailing. I want to see more, now! :)
YES!!!!
I even think the new hull registry font kicks ass, too. ;-)
Watch this thread go past 1000 posts in about 12.532 minutes!!!! ;)
Go for it Guys (and Girls too of course)
#23
The steam is possibling coming from welding and soldering.
It is one of many compentents that is being constructed.
It’s certainly interesting, but doesn’t look to me anyway like the pilot version of the E
Or not necessarily something that would evolve into it . . . obviously that’s what it is supposed to be tho . . .
But it’s a great image nevertheless - very compelling.
I have far less a problem with the look of the ship in this image than I do with reports of the absolutely idiotic notion that it’s being built on Earth. Stupid stupid stupid.
fascinating!!!hmm!!ok.
It does look pretty neat. :) Some aspects remind me of Koerner’s, but this looks a bit truer to the original than his, which is all to the good. Of course, there’s a lot that we can’t see, and the places where his design tended to run off the rails were on the secondary hull, which we can’t see here.
#21 - What actually amuses me a lot about that lettering is that it’s the microgramma style used in Franz Joseph’s blueprints. ;)
#28 - I think you’re right. They do look like the intercoolers.
The hull plating really does look like it has a strong influence from TMP, and maybe the Defiant from ENT. No complaints from me on that. :)
Obviously I shall reserve judgement ’til I can see a few more angles, but it is looking like it’s gonna be a pretty faithful rendition, and if that holds true as we see more of her, then I will happily say to the production and VFX teams, “Thanks!”
I can not wait until the beauty shot is released
The font looks like Microgramma like specified in The Star Fleet Technical Manual by Franz Joseph
Know what? I have saved the picture as my desktop wallpaper! :D
Canon = we’ve seen it already. Let’s hope they give us something we haven’t seen already…
it looks cool, the nacelles are pretty big though. I love the way a few people are assuming that nacelle caps will go on, cos for all we know they might just be left as they are.
it looks like a cool ship, certainly in line with canon and can clearly be seen to be a predecessor of the 1701-D and 1701-E
man I wish we had an actual forum instead of this stupid “comment” system…
#59 Allan Cook - I think we established in some of the other threads that the Enterprise was in fact built on Earth, but assembled in space.
And the nacelles looking too large? Merely a trick of photography. Taking a photo of an actual physical 1/1 scale Enterprise from a certain distance with a wide lens would produce the same effect.
I think I’ve just fallen in love!
Karl Urban absolutely nailed it:
The way I feel about it, being as specific as I’m allowed to be, is it’s like listening to a radio station in AM and then tuning it into high-definition stereo. Everything will sort of really come into high-definition focus…
E = Engaging
N = Never looked better
T = Too perfect for words
E = Energetic photo!
R= Respecting the E
P= Proud, you have done Roddenberry’s vision proud
R= Roberto Orci, you tell everyone thanks!
I = I like it very much
S = San Francisco, Califonia, that’s what the plaque of the Enterprise
says in every episode of the Kirk era show
E= The E is Back!
Wow……wow…….wow……..awesome!
#68 - Which is stupid, stupid, and more stupid. There is no practical reason to do so, other than some folks involved with the production with wouldn’t-it-be-coolitis
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Somehow I doubt they would have the solid red caps like in The Cage, but I DO think it would be cool to see a combination of the two styles– keep the caps transparent but glowing red instead of yellow, and with the spikey things attached to them.
The bridge dome is very similar to the refit bridge dome. See….
http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/STMPEnterprise/STMPent38.jpg
Obviously, we can’t see much from this photo, but I think it’s gonna be cool.
I’m loving it. Can’t wait for a beauty shot!
Makes me wonder what James Cawley saw. Wasn’t he really dissappointed that it looked nothing like the original?
Unless what he saw was the interior of the ship.
#73 Allan Cook - I haven’t verified this, but Roddenberry co-wrote a book that stated definitively that the ship was built in San Francisco (it’s quotes on this site somewhere). Even a TAS episode (I linked it in some other thread) has Robert April reminiscing about seeing the ship built in San Francisco.
Looks really good to me. I love the added detail and metallic collor of the primary hull. Kind of harkens back to the look from ST: TMP, which is perfectly fine by me as I loved the look of that movie.
#64… you’re not the only one that is Desktopping this.!!!!
Hello old gal, so nice to see you again after all these years.
Tell ILM they’ve earned thier pay for this film allready ;)
- W -
* Thanks guys, the next few months will breeze by quickly now *
It DOES look like Koerner’s…pretty cool!
the images reminds me of close encounters in a way… here’s hoping they use that budget of theirs to the fullest!!
73
Um, don’t you think if NASA had anti-gravity technology too they’d be constructing larger chunks of the ISS space station on Earth, and then float them up into space afterwards?
There’s no reason to construct the entire thing in space if you don’t HAVE to.
#73
Sorry to tell you, but Gene Roddenberry and Stephen Whitfield in their book The Making of Star Trek from 1968 on page 171 explicity state that the Enterprise was built on Earth and assembled in space.
The plaque of the original Enterprise in EVERY episode of the show says “USS Enterprise” and then “San Fransico, Calif”
Is San Francisco CALIFORNIA in orbit of Earth?
The Enterprise was built on Earth.
Shoot, I was hoping for a triangle-shaped saucer-section with pink lettering, and nacelles that are shaped like hamburgers instead of hot dogs. With a coat of yellow paint and fire decals on the body.
Sigh, but since they decided to make it look like the original ship, I guess I’ll have to live with it . . . .
Hee hee hee.
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Not only that, but the dedication plaque on the original bridge specifically says it was constructed in SF.
End of story.
NERDGASM!
I have to change my pants!!
I like the design of the Enterprse it doesn’t look like they changed her design tat much from the original movies.
#78: Roddenberry was just as capable of being stupid as the people who have reportedly placed construction on Earth for this trailer.
This ship would have been built in orbit.
Components assembled on the ground, sure. But not structures. Nothing involving the frame.
Hey there, good-looking….
We’ve missed you…
Since I was a young boy, the Enterprise was my childhood “ship of dreams.” Like many of us, I love that ship. I was even misty-eyed when the refitted E (no bloody A, B, C or D) was destroyed in STIII:TSOS.
I like–and dare I say, love–what I see, but I *do* need to see more.
Roberto: would it be so bad to slide us some concept drawings or something on the down-low? ;) It’s a long eleven months, man!
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Yeah, and those nacelles look like ridiculous hair dryers. — the whole thing looks like a giant toilet/soapdispencer/bathroom unit.
I think it looks fantastic! Bring it on! I want to see more.
#47 - Amen to that!
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What business does a Vulcan, a Man and a Tribble have in my sickbay? Speak quickly!
Looks like Enterprise to me. I’m not worried.
#89 - I’m not sure where your insistent denial of this documented fact of the series is coming from, Not really sure how to respond other than, “Um, okay.” Perhaps Roddenberry was capable of being stupid as you say…
ooooh yeah….oh yeah….almost there….oh yeah oooooh yeah…..ahhhhhhhhhhh. Wooooooo……what a great picture.
I like it a lot. It look pretty much in line with the refit Enterprise with updated TOS-nacelles (these seem a bit curvier), so I have no complaints.
I would love to see what Gabe thinks of it.
Where are you, Gabe Koerner?!
#91 take it back!
Wow… I think i just found my inner Trekkie. I am not a raging fan, never have been. But this almost brought a tear to my eye. Can’t wait to see what the trailer actually does to my emotions. LOL
#34 - I thought the same thing about the nacelles at first too, but looking at this drawing, it seems right on the dot:
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/heavycruiser_enterprise_up1
Thanks for posting this.
Look at the bottom drawing, it is spot on.
- Needs some of that white-grey hull paint coating
- Nacelles appear to have a weird shape
- Left nacelle appears to have a clear cover, needs to be translucent
- Upper saucer/bridge section proportions look off
- Hopefully when the nacelles are fired up, we get orange glow
based off of this shot alone it looks pretty cool. but i will wait to see more until i jump for joy.
The picture is little too low for my desltop wallpaper in terms of resolution. The resolution on my computer is 1920 x 1200. Is there any picture with similar resultion available online?
Since we are mostly sure it was built on Earth and assembled in space, I am wondering about seeing the nacelles attached. But maybe they had to do it so that the average movie-goer would recognise it as the Enterpeise, which being only a saucer they might not. Might not be important to the movie.
It looks like concept art, not physical at all. I wasn’t expecting much, but I’m disappointed anyway.
It looks like one of the decepticons
Sigh.
Treat her like a lady and she’ll always bring you home.
What a majestic, beautiful, fantastic ship!
Sharp. No complaints here.
So is that part of the bridge we’re looking at in that cutaway section, or is the bridge in the dome up above I wonder? Hard to tell what the scale of this is…
Well would you look at THAT…!
…I think she looks beautiful. She’s got the right name. She’s got the right crew.
…now, let’s see her fly!
Such beauty, I love it!
And the smoke rising shows that its being built on Earth. Which is odd that the nacelles would be able to be supported with all that weight on the surface…
……………………………………………………………………………………………………………….. ……OOOOO……………………OOOOO……OOOOOOO……OOOOO……………………OOOOO…….. …….OOOOO………………….OOOOO…..OOOO..OOOO…..OOOOO………………….OOOOO……… ……..OOOOO…….OOO…….OOOOO…..OOOO….OOOO…..OOOOO…….OOO…….OOOOO………. ………OOOOO…..OOOO…..OOOOO…..OOOO……OOOO…..OOOOO…..OOOO…..OOOOO……….. ……….OOOOO…OOOOO…OOOOO……OOOO……OOOO……OOOOO…OOOOO…OOOOO………… ………..OOOOOOOO..OOOOOOOO…….OOOO……OOOO…….OOOOOOOO..OOOOOOOO…………. …………OOOOOOO….OOOOOOO………OOOO….OOOO………OOOOOOO….OOOOOOO………….. ………….OOOOOO……OOOOOO………..OOOOOOOOO………..OOOOOO……OOOOOO…………… …………..OOOOO……..OOOOO…………..OOOOOOO…………..OOOOO……..OOOOO……………. ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
This pic offers a very limited view of the ship.
The nacelles seem to be fairly true to the original, but seem to be larger. The lettering on the hull is a different font and it also seems larger than on the TOS Enterprise. The steep incline of the saucer, the aztecing on the hull, and the shape of the bridge module appear to resemble the movie-era Enterprise. Of course, all of this could be attributed to the cropped, extreme close-up nature of the picture.
I hope we get to see a wider shot of the saucer/nacelles and the engineering hull in the trailer. I’ll reserve judgement until then…
#94: Yes, it was stupid of Roddenberry to suggest this ship was built on Earth. That was what I was saying. Glad you figured that out. Roddenberry was often wrong in matters of true science and physics, which is one reason why he hired so many established hard-SF writers to work on the series. It’s too bad he didn’t have one of them working with him instead of Stephen Whitfield when he entered this notion into ‘canon’.
Looks EXCELLENT !
A wonderful homage to the grand old girl. Lettering is no big deal - construction happened years before the era of TOS, so it’s very possible that this is the original lettering, and that there were refits and repainting in the subsequent years before the events of The Cage.
It looks great so far. I hope the more we see the more we like it!!!
#95 I agree
103. Follow the link to the AOL/Moviephone page and grab the 1828×778 image they have there. Shrink accordingly.
Pretty nice ship. Can’t wait to see the trailer.
WOW.
Mr. Orci, please congratulate your team for a job well-done.
The design looks fantastic. Hell, at this point I don’t even mind that she’s being built on Earth. It just looks gorgeous.
#82: Yep, it reminds me Koerner’s work, too…and that’s a GOOD thing.
I’m stoked.
#115 - Condescending much?
But, alas, we know what they say about opinions…
LEts see the tie fighter try to take her on now
wooohoo…it does look like a cross between the TV version and TMP version
Fascinating. (Hey- someone had to say it.)
I need to go change my pants now….. FRIKKIN SWEET!!!
“Ah. Not so wounded as we were led to believe. So much the better. ”
Looks great!
If this ship was destroyed in the seventh movie why are they building it again now.
Yeah, getting ready to make it into my new desktop image. Would have prefered a little more TOS like but looks good. I liked the bussards on gabe k’s version which look similar to this, the paneling/saucer looks like the refit and the bridge (to me) kinda like the phase 2 version.
Anyway can’t wait to see it in motion.
#95 I don’t get it
The font does look like its still based on Eurostile - the movie font, if they used the original tv series font - it would look far too dated!
[…] TrekMovie.com hat erste Bilder aus dem bald in die Kinos kommenden Star Trek-Teaser-Trailer veröffentlicht!! Man sieht tatsächlich die Konstruktion der Enterprise auf der Erdoberfläche und wie Mechaniker auf der Hülle herumlaufen und Bauteile zusammenschweißen. Das Schiff ähnelt texturmäßig der bekannten Film-Enterprise, auch hinsichtlich des Schriftzuges auf der Untertassensektion. Die Warpgondeln scheinen auch etwas größer zu sein und erinnern an das CGI-Modell von Gabriel Koerner… bin mal riesig gespannt und werde auch extra nach sehr langer Zeit mal wieder ins Kino gehen, um mir Cloverfield und im Vorfeld dazu diesen Teaser-Trailer anzuschauen!! […]
Not much to criticize here, because honestly, that is a pretty awful angle on the ship construction. You can’t even see the primary hull or the nacelle shafts. I think people are jumping to conclusions to criticize the overall design based on this picture. It’s so dark you can hardly see anything.
All I can see is that the ship has nacelles, a saucer, and a bridge, and the font kind of reminds me of the Star Trek: Enterprise era font. Other than that, I’m happy.
It ……………looks……………REAL……………I think they have really BUILT IT somewhere. Prob area 51. :-)
Spectacular!
Built on Earth? Maybe its in a space dock with artificial gravity!
#132 get out of here with that nazi talk
So much for that “corny” original design being “laughed” off the screen. Sorry Star Warsies…this isn’t your universe. Sleek…elegant…looking very nice indeed. can’t wait to see it on the big screen tomorrow!
IF THIS SHIP WAS DESTROYED IN STAR TRACK 7. WHY ARE THEY BUILDING IT AGAIN
Orci….you are a liar
I see no flames!
#115, wether you like it or not, there is a visual history of ships being built in part on the surface of a planet and then assembled in space. We have a picture of the Utopia shipyards on Mars in of of the TNG episodes with a Galaxy class under construnction in parts on the ground.
ooooooooooooooh… the description of this shot never mentioned it was AT NIGHT.
And wow, note how like the original it is but with interesting detail yet with the same sleek surface (Matt Jeffries would be proud). Note the bussard collectors, the ‘fans’ are curved!
This is really sweet. :)
¡I want my high def 1280×1024 wallpaper now!
the font’s wrong
#8 & #14:
You’re right. Those big ‘bumps’ behind the nacelle caps were part of Gabe Koerner’s design.
#73:
The TNG episode ‘Parallels’ establishes that they built Galaxy-class starships on the ground (albeit Martian Ground). No other Star Trek TV show or movie has ever established verbally where the Enterprise was built…But the plaque DOES say San Francisco, CALIFORNIA…I would assume they mean the ‘California’ that is firmly attached to the Earth.
One could even argue that what we saw at the beginning of TMP wasn’t a construction platform, but rather just a spacedock. We really don’t even know where the TMP refit was done (the refit was complete by the time Scotty gave Kirk the grand tour). Most assume (including me) that the TMP refit was done in space, but there is no actual basis for that assumption.
Hi there!
#115:
Oh, great… let’s bag on Stephen Whitfield while we’re at it. Geez, you people never let up.
The Making of Star Trek is one of the finest behind-the-scenes guides to the making of *any* TV show. Period. Even though the book has transitioned to more of a time-capsule now that the nature of TV production has greatly advanced since the 1960s, it’s still a wonderfully entertaining and informative read.
#103: The image on Moviephone (see Anthony’s link) is 1828×778, but a little blurry.
The nacelles remind me of looking into jet engines, which was one of JJ’s first images in “Lost”. Interesting. I wonder if they will indeed get covered or remain “open” as in the picture.
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There we go, folks! It looks fantastic!!!
She’s _not_ dead, Jim.
Like it, though the nacelles seem a bit to large.
#101 - If we are seeing transparent nacelle caps, maybe this is what the TOS engines looked like switched off. We never really saw that.
Perhaps once they’re up and running it’s a glowy spinning haze in there.
#112 - The nacelles are propped on big futuristic cinder blocks. Archer was going to steal the technology from the Kzinti in ENT season 4.
The nacelle size is fine — it’s only the viewing angle that makes them seem too large.
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Looks really good! I remember when the E-D stills were released back in the late 80s. It was like a big WTF? This - pure magic.
#147: Not bagging on Mr. Whitfield at all. The Making Of, is as you say, a fantastic book. It’s just too bad there was no one there at the time they were writing that one tiny bit of it who knew a little more about physics to say “guys, they’d never build this on Earth”…
The ship looks great but mine is better…..
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#91 Mr. Orci:
Yeah, it just looks way to much like a 1960’s kitchen or bathroom appliance. Everyone knows that the ship should look more like the new, updated designs from the 70’s. I mean, the saucer should be lime green and the nacelles could only be almond colored. And where are the flaps on the nacelles — the ones shaped like bell bottoms?
Well, if you at least get the dark-colored wood paneling right on the bridge, with the shag carpeting, we’ll let this one pass . . . . But I’m watching you, Mister!
(LOL, thanks for joking around with me — it looks great, by the way.)
Love it! Can’t Wait to see the actual teaser in the theaters tomorrow!
#156 .. uhh.. its sci-fi right? who’s to say they couldn’t do it on earth and why.. maybe a wee bit too critical?
#143. I modified it here to fit my desktop, took the pic was there and pretty much just overlayed and moved the bars so it wouldn’t stretch.
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/5970/newentbgcd7.jpg
My inner geek just. . . well, you don’t want to know. Suffice to say that I’m quite pleased. :-)
Thanks #162 - Wallpapered :-)
OMG …. WINGS! (or fins)
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
She looks great guys!
Boy is she gonna look nice on the big screen…
I gotta see this thing.
Love it! The first shot doesn’t reveal much, but it makes me even more anticipated! The film’s going to be massive! JJ will do a great job! CAN’T WAIT!
..I’m back looking at it again. Love what it is, and more so, I’m loving what it isn’t! There was soo much room to screw this up…but lo and behold…the lady remains a lady. Good vibes fer sure.
Damn you JJ… how am I supposed to get back to work now??
I’ll reserve full judgement until I see the whole thing, but so far so good. Worst case scenario I can’t imagine being too disappointed.
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JJ! Dude…you guys rock, tell everyone we’re dying over here waiting to see more :)
Look cool enough for me. It seems to be very faithful too.
The flames - the flames! Its from the welders’ torches!
That’s where the flames are on the Enterprise!!!!!
Orci, you brilliant bastard!
BTW, is that really you, Mr. Abrams? If so, thank you so much for bringing my favorite Trek back to life (and my wife doesn’t let any conversation happen when Lost is on!)
That really does look great - and now, finally, will everyone stop going on about how their childhood, their deepest memories, their emtional core is being destroyed by every tiny change being made in this film!
At the end of the day, this is a new film by new film-makers, and everything we’ve seen or heard, this included, suggests that Star Trek is in good hands.
Things change, they get better!
Lets enjoy seeing the Enterprise and her crew out and about roaming the stars again in this new telling of the story and drop the melodrama when someone suggests the rivets holding the deck plates ‘aren’t cannon’ …
Well done Mr Abrams and his team I say! I hope the film is a great success, you’ve no doubt had to put up with reams of winging emails from fans crying over all of this. I hope when the film is out and we all have a great 2 hours in the cinema, the same fans write to say thank you!
#91 roberto
“the whole thing looks like a giant toilet/soapdispencer/bathroom unit.”
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Well, some folks wanted to see the bathrooms . . . little did we know the entire E is a bathroom!
(Who cares, she’s gorgeous.)
#162 Skippy
What about the 1920 x 1200 resolution?
*crossing my fingers*
lol.. forever known amongst the trekmovie boards as “poster 149″
#156 - Allan Cook
Who knows what kind of technology they will have that far in the future. They already have phasers, shields, warp drive and transporters. Can you explain all of that? For all you know they assemble everything in sections and beam it up to the drydocks in orbit.
If you need further proof that the ship was built in San Francisco…
http://www.startreksite.com/plaques/
IT’S SCIENCE FICTION!!! Stop being so literal and enjoy it! Let it go man!
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hahaha…this thread’s filling up so fast that I hadn’t refreshed the page before posting a few minutes ago, wow.
#162. Give me a minute and I will resize it. :)
Or #177. I should have said….
STILL WAITING FOR “CW” AND “YUBINIT…”
…to mercilessly trash this image. :)
#156 –
They move through space at speeds hundreds of times faster than light, they have artificial gravity on their ships, they speak and hear through unseen universal translators, they transform their bodies into sub-atomic particles that they can transport from place to place…and your worrying about how they can build a ship on the ground?
To answer your question: I would guess that it needs to be structurally strong enough to survive the strains that the impulse engines alone put on the ship, so structural integrity in Earth’s gravity isn’t an issue…and then since they have mastered anti-gravity and tractor beams and such, I suppose lifting it into space, in whole or in parts, isn’t a problem either.
I’ll just add my 2c here
YAY!
Not Sure about it. I would have to see the whole thing.
One last thing. I would like to know the age of the people who likes the ship.
I bet more then half are some teens or are in the early twenties. Also if you like it, are you a fan of TOS or Later series.
#178 beat me to the post…same sentiments.
I agree with 50
What a great day for Star Trek fans. I really have a good feeling about this movie and this shot does not dissapoint. This is the first time in years that i’ve got a tingling feeling about Star Treks future.
Much the same as I did when Q first introduced us to the borg, or when Worf joined DS9 and the battle that followed in Way of the Warrior.
This could do for Star Trek what Wrath of Khan did.
A new look, a new feel. Bring on the new Tv Series which is sure to follow.
Also anyone noticed Star Trek.com has been updated for the first time since December with the new link.
That bridge looks double decked to me…
And for the last time, canon not cannon.
I think ists a FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKKKEEE
Breathing a VERY BIG sigh of relief.
Oh my god, they changed the font, it´s the end of world as we know it! what will come next? parabolic antenna no more?
I am wondering to see the interior. And the new communicator and tricorder.
#187 I’m looking for more feature films myself.. though its going to be interesting with this cast.. anyone know how many films they signed on for?
That’s it. I’m divorcing my husband and marrying this ship!
The Big E looks pretty good. I can see where some people would think Koerner’s design is.
Hearing that the Enterprise would be built on Earth made me facepalm. While it is “kewl”, it doesn’t make sense, especially if those docks from TMP were part of the San Francisco shipyard (I may be wrong about that).
185: I’m 15, so I guess I fall into the teen category and I grant you that there is an inner part of me that loves it because of the aztecing and ‘cool’ look, but I also like it because it is the Enterprise. She’s got all the lines and character of the original but for a new contemporary age. I loved the original Big E as much as the next man, but the need for change is there and I’m pleased they’ve done it in the way they have, because it looks great and is recognisably the ship of legend. Well done to all on the design.
#189:
I believe it is real — but didn’t Australia already see the trailer today (attached to cloverfield)?? I could be wrong about that — but if that’s true, can any Aussies confirm this image?
It kinda reminds me of Gabe Kroner’s updated version of the TOS E, which I really liked. So, I really like what I see so far. As long as the lines are the same, I’m fine. Can’t wait to see what it looks like inside; I hope that it gives us technology that’s similar but projected farther from what we already have just as TOS tech projected what was in the 60s.
Nacelle caps.
Head exploding!
Thank you …. Thank you soooo much.
Just one very, very happy and fannish German ….
Personally, I’m digging it.
However, I’m sure that many here must feel the dread because it closely resembles canon, and that not enough “change” has been inflicted upon it. Surely, by not making enough “change” teh filmmakers aren’t showing any creativity, but are locking themselves into a creative straight jacket.
Moreover, by making this so close to canon it will alienate the newer audiences, and they will rin from the theaters screaming and this movie will surely flop at the box office.
i think the ship looks great.
i think the oversize look of the nacelles and the numbering is due to a forced perspective of the camera.
and as for those fins… they were on the original ship to.
this is awesome… now how about the uniforms
LOL!!
It looks like (nitpick alert) the lettering for the name and registry number is too far forward on the saucer section.
Other than that, I agree, it looks a lot like Gabe Koerner’s design.
And that’s a good thing.
#169….couldn’t agree more. I have been back to look at it several times, it looks amazing. My work day is shot!!
One of the best things the Enterprise had which the movies ship lost was the rotating nacelles: which always conveyed a sense of power. This looks promising! I’m hoping for a very close version to the original with detailing like that from the remastered. Nice, so far….
Too early to say something. At least the shape looks like in TOS… I hate the colors…
plus… since when are starships build on Earth? (Even the NX was build in space)… Oh wait… never mind I asked… Abrams is making this movie… and he has not the slightest clue of TREK anyway…
This wallpaper will live tin my desktop for a looooooong time.
¡Or at least untill we get the next beautyfull picture!
Did anybody notice the NCC-1701 across the front of the saucer section?
#176…finally got the right number (I think). :) Here is a 1920×1200 version:
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/2048/newentbgwidejv0.jpg
@205
Dedication plaque of TOS Enterprise clearly says
San Francisco, Calif
so I thinkt that the fact that this beautiful ship will be built on earth fits into canon perfectly
Nitpicking a TEASER trailer image seems highly presumptious, likely not indicative of the final outcome… However, this seems pretty concrete evidence of what they are aiming for with the exterior of the Enterprise, faithful to TOS but leaning more towards the MOVIE Enterprise version. Fine by me. :-)
Looks good. I’ve got the upmost faith in Abrams!
#205
Besides that one on-screen shot in the TNG episode “Parallels”?
Sorry. #207
Nacelles, bridge, lettering can be changed during a future refit. Hull can be painted later. Maybe TMP Enterprise was just never painted. Canon can rest.
Somehow I expected more details and scaffolding from what was described. But it’s just a picture…
But overall I like what I’m seeing. Seems very realistic and looks like the Enterprise.
11 months to go!!! Hours will seem like days. ;)
sorry,
@ 207 of course
#200, Not only will they run sreeming, but taking their eyes off with their own popcorn boxes.
As thay said in Futurama:
You’ve Watched it, You can’t unwatch it!
It looks like they reversed engineered a “hybrid” of the Motion Picture E and the TOS E. the Saucer looks pretty good other then the placement of the lettering (nitpicking) and the overly curvasious nacelles. Once the Bussard Collectors are “full” of hydrogen and all glowing red I bet they will look cool Who is to say officially what is inside an empty bussard collector? We have never seen one up close and empty. How does the hydrogen “dump” when they need it? What pulls it in and compresses it? Looks like some thought about it. NOt bad!
For those who don’t like the complaints, too bad.
The point of a forum is to voice opinions. Don’t like the opinions, don’t read the forum.
So far, from what I can see, I’m happy (and I’m a purist). The Nacelles look awfully big, but the shape is there, the bridge looks good… But there is still a LOT more ship to see before a verdict can be made.
So far so good…now that hideous uniform, however… looks an awful lot like an Imperial officer uniform, or a Battlestar Galactica reject.
This makes my day. It THE Enterprise, just with a really cinematic feeling about it…Finally the good ol days are back, just better…This the beginning of something BIG!
ST II-VI were an elaborate swansong on TOS…But this is the BEGINNING…it’s a major launch…This has to be it or Trek is done…
not bad
I guess the nacelle caps are still “under construction”. Looks interesting. Who is Gabe Koemer?? What designs has he done?
#217
You and me, both… :)
The pissy answer to #205 could have been “Since, apparently, January 17, 2008″
WOW I FEEL LOT BETTER TO SEE FRONT ENTERPRISE! BUT I NEED BUY DAMN MODEL KIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL
#210 - Skippy
Many thanks! :D
With regard to 200, I think that if there were too many changes in creativity there would be a riot on our hands here on these comments but I would not be supprised when the movie does launch that there will be creativity in the script. Remember this is a relaunch and to quote the official web-sites note at the bottom:
” From JJ Abrams comes a NEW VISION of the greatest space adventure of all time, STAR TREK”
I think there will be plenty more to write about here over the next year or so!
..thanks skippy!
#178:
Everyone who is providing thought-out arguments (such as the technology to master gravity) as to why they could is missing the real, central question: Why would they BOTHER?
This is, as you pointed out, SCIENCE fiction. There’s no doubt that the technologies Trek ascribes to would provide the means to build this ship in space. Once you can build it in space, why would you bother to build it anywhere else? It would be a massive amount of wasted effort and energy.
(Why shouldn’t Starfleet’s San Fransisco Yards have been in geosynchronous orbit above San Fransisco? Indeed, that’s where Roddenberry himself wanted the drydock to be depicted in The Motion Picture.)
#225 lol.. as long as they’ve found a way to keep those nacells from sagging..
HEY! I just looked carefully at the high res image and if you look closely just above the “S” to the left at the open panel on the saucer section you can see what looks to be a man standing holding a light!!!!
137: That was uncalled for. Sorry, but why is that poster speaking like a Nazi? Perhaps you read German, and it was as offensive as Nazism was?
It was actually a normal fanboy reference to the Koerner design, and quite a neutral comment.
Germany is the biggest market for Trek in continental Europe, and we can translate German posts in 5 seconds with a simple Google. What was the point of insulting this poster without reading the post? Unreal.
I LIKE SHINY THINGS!! :)
So Far So Good!
194 - I believe the main cast is signed on for three films.
Love it so far
Are those fan blades? What would they be for? NO way for speed, could it?
Folks..
We have to prepare ourselves to buy a few new Star Trek keepsake ornaments which are similar to that new ship when the movie comes out.
Keep it in your mind!
#230 “as long as they’ve found a way to keep those nacelles from sagging”
Yeah…..it’s a sad truth about life…..once a ship has “spit out” a few shuttlecraft…….the old nacelles hang pretty low! :)
Also, looks like the left cap is on the necelle and the right is off.
The blades are so it can take off, like a plane.. just not sure if the “wings” are quite big enough.
Looks pretty good to me.
#236: Presumably the Bussard Ramscoop mechanism that generates a massive electromagnetic field to gather interstellar hydrogen for the propulsion systems.
(See? Real science and canon CAN get along!)
so much for being built in orbit over san francisco, this movie is off to a great start…
hopefully the ramscoop caps are simply not yet in place
the ship is very big and heavy, it is not designed to hold up under its own weight, why build this thing at the bottom of a gravity well?
i wouldnt be surprised to see landing gear added to the old girl…
this doesnt make much sense to build this on a planets surface, what a waste of energy
Who cares if the thing were built on Earth or in orbit?
We are talking future engineering here and we are talking fictional future engineering at that. Who is really to say how they would build the thing?
If you are willing to buy warp drive, transporters, and subspace FTL communication, you should be willing to accept that it may have been built in orbit or on the ground.
Stupidly excited now. WOW.
I think I’ll wait until I see the whole thing before I decide if I hate it or not, but I’m extremely pleased with this shot.
Though the nacelles do look a bit too big xP
#230: Nacelles sag in gravity? We should build the ship in orbit then! ;)
#229.
In fact. I find more reasonable that it is safer and cheaper to put a hundred (or more) workers to build a thing on the ground than on outher space.
On space you need lots of spacesuits, lots of artficial air, a system that avoids looing parts that are unattached…
I think that it is logic to build most of in on the ground, where the worker can wear normal protective clothing, breath the free earth air and go home in the afternoon. (Which the crew in the picture doesn’t seem to be doing. They must be under schedule)
#238 omg i don’t think i was ready for that visual…
but i was actually referring to this:
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=182182
lucky for me though i was able to enforce my sagging nacelles with some tp, a bolt and glue.. gave it some “battle damage” to boot…
#242
BUT….
lets say you are in a nebula or planet where the density of the atmosphere is more than say, the vacuum of space. You would want some type of “scoop” or suction like a jet airplane engine to force the “air” or in this case hydrogen into the bussard collector.
The true NCC 1701 died a heroic death in orbit of Planet Genesis, let it rest in peace & reject this farce with it’s non-canon hull lettering & TMP plating.
OK, I’m drooling and I can’t seem to stop. This is THE Enterprise! AWESOME!
Roberto - I can’t tell from the pic (lousy laptop screen), but are those nacelles capped ? If not, and you go sucking a bird up into one of those intakes, you’ll have to send a redshirt crawling in there just to clean out all the muck. LOL :-)
Kirk: “Mr. Scott, are the engines ready for a restart?”
Scotty (over the intercom): “Aye, sir.”
Kirk: “Very good. Initiate.” (looks around) “Hey, where’s Ensign Ricky?”
*VRROOOOOOOM*
(*YEEAAAARRRGGHHHHHHHHHH…………!*)
*SPUTTER*
Scotty (over the intercom): “Sir, we have another wee bit of a problem.”
“The true NCC 1701 died a heroic death in orbit of Planet Genesis, let it rest in peace & reject this farce with it’s non-canon hull lettering & TMP plating.”
No - despite the propaganda the refit was no more the original 1701, less so maybe.
Wouldnt it be a great inside joke for us hard core trekkies if during a space inspection or his first arrival at the E kirk says something like “I like it, but those nacelle caps just look funny to me”
HA!
#253. Yeah thats Greg Grunburgs part! ;-)
#251 to my knowledge V’ger having kids is not canon :O whoa!! hey!!
I can accept the ground build.
So, this is what the ship looked like when it was launched around 2245. Hmm…not bad at all. I would suppose Pike’s Enterprise was major refit one, Kirk’s was minor refit one, TMP’s was major refit 2. Then, as #251 said, “NCC 1701 died a heroic death in orbit of Planet Genesis”
its well known that the 1701 was built in earth orbit, and it makes sense, regardless of technology, engineering still respects economy of resource
by this time in the future, asteroid mining is commonplace, and those rocks are loaded with metals, and zero g refining would be much more efficient than in the old days, and produce better metals, too
that ship is enormous and very heavy, why the extra expense and risk of now having to push it up off the ground and into space? i can see a surface vehicle, like a bop or a large shuttle built on a planet surface for whatever reason, i guess, but the only thing on the constitution class that should come near a planetary surface is the saucer section in an emergency scenario
wtf?
i hope that when this thing goes to warp, the nacelles emit miles of obvious rocket thrust, because, hey, it looks so cool… why not?
crickey.
Funny, at first I thought we’re seeing an image of the NX-01 from the launch trailers of Enterprise back from 2001!
Wow, that was great. honey. I need a cigarette…
And those ARE fan blades, blowing pure Star Trek goodness to all the fans.
Now for the pointy nacelles and seat belts…
Understand, I’m not going to get upset over changes GR himself couldn’t even keep himself from doing to the ship in either “Phase II” or TMP. And thus far I like what I see - that’s Enterprise!
So far so good, but we can’t see below the saucer section. It could still go tits up. So I’ll hold back any further thoughts until we can see it all.
#257 to my knowledge V’ger having kids is not canon :O whoa!! hey!!
Spock Unit did note at the end of TMP they witnessed the birth of a new life form! : )
#248: It’s logical to build many components on the ground. It is not logical to build any major structural elements on the ground. Massive wasted effort for a craft never intended to fly atmospheric or land in a gravity well.
And of course, in the future of Trek, millions of people already live in space (where they have lots of spacesuits, plenty of air and artificial gravity to keep tools from flying away), so they’d still have a workforce that can go straight home after their shift is done.
could someone ban
137. Hugh - January 17, 2008
for his “#132 get out of here with that nazi talk”
please?
THERE IS NO MUGATU IN THE PICTURE!
MUGATU SHOULD BE DOING HANDSTANDS ACROSS THE SAUCER SECTION!
I guess that, after today, it’ll be (instead) “It is well known that the Enterprise was assembled …”
#90 The bitching has started…
Ok, ok, ok, now I’m getting excited.
Zooming in, you can almost peek inside the bridge.
Looks like you can see a screen with a little orange planet on it.
Looks great. Looks beautiful. Love it.
#269
I think that we should be honored by all of the starship designers, temporally-transported from the 23rd Century, posting here.
Sweeet.
“To me she was always like my child. I was there in the San Francisco Navy Yards when her unit components were built.” — Robert April, The Counter-Clock Incident
Hmm sounds like someone a long time before this thought her parts and pieces were made on the ground. “Navy Yards” do not evoke images of space stations.
I thinking the hysteria over JJ and crew peeing on the fans and on canon is overblown. We should be enjoying any new Trek!
Jesus, I just upped the brightness of the large pic a bit and these nacelles gonna be quite some turbo fans!
Wow this ship looks HOT!
Really cant wait to see her fly now!
I wouldn’t be surprised if this shot was made solely for the teaser in order to accomplish JJ’s goal of demonstrating scale and making a connection to current times. In order to attract the new fans, he’s attempting to give them something they can relate to, which this pic and teaser likely do very well. Whether it is constructed in space or in JJ’s back yard is much less important than the quality of the end product. For Star Trek to flourish, new fans must be brought into the fold, which is exactly what I think he’s trying to do.
#274: ““Navy Yards” do not evoke images of space stations.”
Why not? This is the future, you know. Science fiction. Throughout the rest of Trek we’ve seen plenty of orbital facilities. I for one had never imagined something so primitive as an earthbound facility when April spoke that line…
@224
:)
I also think that the whole “ground vs space” debate is very symbolic, and represents the very challenge Mr JJ and his theme have to face : some members of the fanbase are simply unable accept change, even if it’s justified and it does not violete canon.
It’s true we haven’t seen any ship (up to this moment) built on the ground. However, we also haven’t seen anything which would make it non-canon (dialogue in which there’s a mention that “Starfleet alwyas build ships in space “drydocks for example)…
The nacelles appear to have fan blades. This would explain and add why it can travel in the atmosphere. The left nacelle cap appears that it is able to mechanically open. The necelle cap would be open in the atmospher to allow air to enter and to operate just like a jet engine. The saucer section alone looks aerodynamic enough. At a low orbit, caps would close and impulse drive could be used to pull the ship into orbit.
Cool font. The overall the design of the primary hull/saucer section looks really good.
But are those supposed to be *propellors* or airscoops on the fronts of the nacelles??? If so, that’s a big big problem. It makes the whole thing looks like a camaro or something.
And yes, a starship should be built either in orbit or near Mars. Not in San Francisco. This makes me very worried.
It looks good but I’m waiting for thr full pic.
^
I hope in this film we see the Shields in action. Hope they don’t look like the wimpy hull-plating we saw in Enterprise.
#264 I’ll give you that..
roberto orci
Never mind the awesome looking soap dispenser. LOL. Good job! Be a pal now and slip us the trailer. Ok how about after midnight. Or what ever time after JJ goes’ to sleep. :) We the geek nation need to see it. LOL….
#280
And, in fact, we’ve seen a screen-cap of an image — broadcast — that shows a Galaxy Class ship being assembled on the ground.
Of course, maybe that’s only in THAT quantum-signature parallel universe.
Which might be ‘our’s’, for that matter.
#243
Actually who says that making it in orbit is more efficient? If you go by TOS the Enterprise is capable of flying in the atmosphere. I think we’ve also seen this in Voyager. So, why not build it on the ground and let it lift off under it’s own power?
So, the plaque said built in San Fransisco (well known ship-yards).
Nothing to say SOME of it wasn’t built on the ground!!!
And as for those wondering about landing gear… The original had ‘em. The saucer was designed by Jeffries to seperate, and it could land. So… why not build it on the ground?
In any case… so far.. so good. We’ll see final recations when we finally get to se ethe WHOLE thing!
And again… for those who don’t like people complaining… get over it. A forum is for ALL opinions.
#279, and doesn’t the N in N.C.C. mean Naval? Weird coincidence if true.
#229:
I tend to agree to your sentiments in regards to building the ship planetside and then transporting it into orbit. I was just pointing out that, according to “canon” they did not. That’s not to say that the San Francisco Fleet Yards aren’t in geosynchronous orbit above San Francisco. Aside from the dedication plaques, we have never seen any on-screen evidence that indicates either way.
The only reason I can come up with to support them building the ship on the surface and then transporting it into orbit is that it would be easier and faster to move, and probably safer without the pressure suits that they would have to wear in space.
I doubt that they’d fly components up through the atmosphere anyways. They would probably assemble everything in sections and then beam it up to the drydock.
You stressed that it is SCIENCE fiction, and I agree. All good science fiction shows have a grounding in science. But, lets not forget that they are also FICTION. At the time the show was conceived, we had barely gotten into space and very few people fully understood the forces involved with space travel.
As it seems that both of our arguements have merit, and we really can’t do anything to change how the film-makers and studio execs choose to depict the construction of the ship, I suggest we table this discussion.
Besides…However they supposedly construct it, the end result is one good looking ship!
#280: For my part, my arguments are based on my love of SCIENCE Fiction, not ‘canon’ (which, while beloved, is inconsistent at best and fanatically clung to like a bad religion at worst).
I wonder if the general look is going to be closer to the Motion Picture than TOS? Basing the visual canon on the movies rather than the series would make some sense.
The shot reminds me of a drydock scene. And you can almost see the deck cutaway. They use the TMP ship’s markings. But the TMP signage is cool.
#274: ““Navy Yards” do not evoke images of space stations.”
Why not? This is the future, you know. Science fiction. Throughout the rest of Trek we’ve seen plenty of orbital facilities. I for one had never imagined something so primitive as an earthbound facility when April spoke that line…
If they weren’t called “The San Fransisco Navy Yards” Maybe, but San Fransisco is a very specific place and there are even actual real navy construction yards by that name.
#289: Matt Jeffries always intended for NCC to stand for Naval Construction Contract. And Starfleet is a Navy. (You don’t need a water-filled sea for a Navy, folks. If so, we’d better kick all our Marines off the land!)
#271 - if you could peek inside the bridge, you’d probably see half-full coffee cups full of cigarette butts and empty Vienna sausage can laying everywhere. ;-)
Something else… why are we all assuming they are on land??
I don’t see anything to indicate they are. It could easily be an enclosed bay or spacedock.
section9 - January 17, 2008
THERE IS NO MUGATU IN THE PICTURE!
MUGATU SHOULD BE DOING HANDSTANDS ACROSS THE SAUCER SECTION!
LOL, with Shater looking out the window at it and no one believing him..hmm seems farmilar..de de, de de, de de
Here is the real pictute of the ent’s construction:
http://scifitube.com/ent1.jpg
I think it all works just fine with the whole san fran/ Navy/ starfleet construction thing. This suits me just fine.
the mass of the nacelles and their supporting struts alone cannot support themselves in heavy gravity…
are the construction crews working in an enhanced structural integrity field? generated at great cost of energy? (if anyone even put any thought behind this build scenario)
just another advantage of zero gravity construction, no scaffolding hundreds of feet tall…. and no teamsters falling to their deaths
this is a huge request for disbelief suspension
they also appear to have changed the scale of the ship… is it deck 3 or 4 where someone saw fit to add another segment to the upper primary hull?
“Launched in 2245, the original and illustrious starship U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 was built in the San Francisco Yards orbiting Earth. The Constitution-class starship was previously captained by Robert April and Christopher Pike, before coming under the command of Captain James T. Kirk. ”
maybe they’ll make han solo the first captain and zena, warrior princess, his number one?
so aweseome, dude!
yeah.
I Don’t see any stars in the picture. Maybe it is being built in orbit in an inclosed structure that makes it easier on the workers.
people… we didn’t see a lot! wait for the secondary hull (esp. the deflector is most interesting to me)…
298
Cute use of the AMT kit :) I’ve seen that one before, I belive. Very nice!
oh
my
gawd!!!!
uHM isn’t there going to be covering for the Nacelle’s? A semi transparent dome..which we could see the spinning things behind it..this is obviously before those covering’s go on.
They aren’t fan blades..*rolls eyes*
Where’s the sails and the mast??? Arrrr… Be that the real Enterprize?
Looks good. I think this film will deliver.
Absolutely brilliant
You can’t even see the rest of the picture..for all you know the Nacelle’s are sitting ON THE GROUND along with the saucer..good grief chill out until you know the whole story or see more…
chill dude…
[quote]300. j w wright - January 17, 2008
the mass of the nacelles and their supporting struts alone cannot support themselves in heavy gravity…
are the construction crews working in an enhanced structural integrity field? generated at great cost of energy? (if anyone even put any thought behind this build scenario)
just another advantage of zero gravity construction, no scaffolding hundreds of feet tall…. and no teamsters falling to their deaths
this is a huge request for disbelief suspension
they also appear to have changed the scale of the ship… is it deck 3 or 4 where someone saw fit to add another segment to the upper primary hull?
“Launched in 2245, the original and illustrious starship U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 was built in the San Francisco Yards orbiting Earth. The Constitution-class starship was previously captained by Robert April and Christopher Pike, before coming under the command of Captain James T. Kirk. ”
maybe they’ll make han solo the first captain and zena, warrior princess, his number one?
so aweseome, dude!
yeah.
“#289: Matt Jeffries always intended for NCC to stand for Naval Construction Contract.”
Well, as long as we’re being anally canonical about this — which was not meant as a personal dig, by the way, since I myself am about to do that very thing:
Matt Jefferies stated that “NCC” didn’t stand for anything in particular. It was a combination of letters he felt looked good and sufficiently naval.
“Naval Construction Contract” comes to us via Franz Joseph’s U.S.S. Enterprise blueprints, first published by Ballantine Books in the 1970s. I always thought it was a clever, plausible explanation of “NCC,” myself… if you ignore the fact that Starfleet isn’t naval by any accurate usage of the word.
Fantastic!!! This is what I had in mind.
“And again… for those who don’t like people complaining… get over it. A forum is for ALL opinions.”
isn’t the opinion carried by people “who don’t like people complaining” an opinion also? lol therefore your argument is that people who have bad opinions of someone elses opinion need to change their opinion to be more accepting of other opinions?
I just hope they have more than one bathroom on this Enterprise! And you thought the line on that one episode was to the transporter room! :)
#309: I was sure I’d read that as a Jeffries quote somewhere! (And I wasn’t suggesting it was canonical. Personally, I don’t think that anything we haven’t heard and seen on screen should be considered canonical. The ‘canon’ that presents is enough of a mess without adding in the hundreds of inconsistencies from other sources!)
Hello, ship….
“You treat ‘er like a lady, and she’ll always bring you home…”
280
Hay, I agree. It would just seem to make more since that if a large starship was built, it would be better to build it on the ground than in space. It would be easier for the workers to access the ship. I am sure all the components would be built in various cities around the world, and it would make since just to ship them by ground to the construction site rather than blast them into space. I am sure final assembly details and refits could be done in space. But really, it just makes more since that initial construction would be done on the ground.
We don’t build ships in the water.
#313: Amen to that, sir.
Cool. Looks like it’s going to be just as impressive as the refit version. I’m fine with that!
#313: “We don’t build ships in the water.”
(To quote someone smarter and more articulate than me who is discussing this very matter elsewhere:)
We also don’t build them somewhere miles from the water, where it would take huge amounts of energy to get them to the water.
Use the International Space Station as the realistic analog. We build modules down here at the bottom of the gravity well, and then we ship them up for assembly. For as long as we have been contemplating sending big things into space, this has been the general plan. The ISS, like the Enterprise, is not configured for a gravity environment. Building it within one would be an insane amount of extra work. Why, then, would Star Fleet, hundreds of years hence, resort to a less efficient means of building their starships?
#232
Thanks!
As I am German and speak it fluently - as I do with English - I was actually a bit alienated about this Nr.137 talk and to see such in the middle of Trek Fans.
There was nothing wrong, only a fan-blog in German language and a description of the E’s design.
While it doesn’t make much sense to post it into an English commenting thread, instead of translating it, it’s otherwise no harm either.
So thanks, for mentioning this. :)
I wish we had a real Forum oder phpboard to talk about the new details … *sigh*
sorry, that should reference #315, not #313.
@286
surely alternative (quantom) universe from “Parallels” cannot be compared to mirror universe in terms of diffrences between it and the trek “reality” :)
@291
Attempts to analyze ground based ship construction on the bases of logic, “realism” etc are fine for me :)
@318
” The ISS, like the Enterprise, is not configured for a gravity environment. ”
However, as we’ve all seen in ” Tomorrow Is Yesterday” it can surwive in such enviroment.
We gotta make a thousand posts on this baby.
Looks amazing! I can’t wait to see the whole ship.
Maybe the construction is in space and it’s just being done inside a huge pressurised hanger, perhaps another nod to Franz Joseph’s tech manual (in addition to the font, that is)?
There is actually no way to tell if the ship is being built on the surface of a planet or in a drydock in orbit with an artificial atmosphere. Why don’t we wait until we know more before we jump to any conclusions?
New image! Liftoff:
http://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/tiy/old_tiy_05.jpg
Ok, just joking.
I have allways assumed that the ship was built in orbit. I thought I read somwhere (non-cannon probably) that the yard was in geo-orbit above SF.
I don’t have a problem with it being built on the ground though I would think it might still be possible that the components were put together in orbit.
As far as the galaxy being shown on the ground. It appeard to be being built on mars which would have had less gravity to worry about, plus we see the Enterprise with most of the saucer exposed “back where it all started” so it could be either way.
I am beside myself with joy! The ship looks exactly as I hoped (from what I can see from the pic), faithful to the original with a couple of slight tweaks to make it look even cooler.
Thank you Star Trek XI team!
That is Effing nice!!
I didn’t take the time to read all of the comments, but all I can say (sorry if someone already used this), “brought a tear to me eye!” STAR TREK IS BACK, BAYYYYYYYBEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
#325
That is an interesting possibility!
Wish we had a wider shot to look at so we could see more of the environment. Maybe when the trailer comes out…
318
I think it would be safe to say that any ship that can cross several light years in a matter of a few days would have no problem escaping the Earths gravity well. Just a thought…
#326: You’re right, of course. In my own defense, I did acknowledge in my very first post that I had issues with the REPORTS that it was going to be shown being built on the ground.
(In retrospect, I wonder if I shouldn’t have found something that we have specifically been shown to point out as being stupid. Like the fact that it’s pretty dumb to suggest that they’re going to bother painting registry markings on a hull that’s not even complete yet…)
So, you’re building the E, and you haven’t installed the artificial gravity systems yet.
Doesn’t it just make sense to let Earth provide the vertically oriented gravity for the early work, so you don’t waste energy?
Then once the components are in orbit, *then* you install and turn on the gravity systems?
Just sayin’.
@326
very good point..
Maybe they have different teams for construction that for painting. Why not paint whats finished? I could paint my living room while work is being done in the kitchen.
how wonderful to see the old ship.
star trek has come home. very exciting indeed
greg
UK