Nimoy Talks Typecasting, Abrams Team and New Star Trek February 7, 2008
by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: ST09 Cast, Star Trek (2009 film) , trackback
Last week Leonard Nimoy appeared on KPCC’s arts show AirTalk. The focus was on his new most recent photography book and exhibition, “Full Body Project,” but the original Spock did get around to talking Trek. Nimoy explained why he decided to reprise his role again and also talked about typecasting.
Here is a partial transcript between Nimoy and Larry Mantle of KPCC
Mantle: but you are through with film directing at this point?
Nimoy: I’m not doing any directing.
Mantle: But you are in the forthcoming JJ Abrams produced Star Trek?
Nimoy: I am indeed, the picture opens Christmas this year and I think it is going to be a very exciting film and I’m involved.
Mantle: Did you need your arm twisted to reprise the role? Or did you connect with this?
Nimoy: Well I am very impressed with JJ Abrams and his writers [Roberto Orci & Alex Kurtzman]. I think they are very good people, very talented. They know the Star Trek story and they respect it and they have written a very interesting script. Those elements together along with a bit of nostalgia and I will be able to step back into the character after something like 18 years…I thought “let’s do this.”
Mantle: Do you have any mixed feelings with the character and being so closely identified with Mr. Spock.
Nimoy: I am very comfortable with it. There was a time when it was distressing because after we’d finished making Star Trek and there was no Star Trek production being done and I was so heavily typecast and so heavily identified with the Spock character, it was difficult to draw attention to the other work that I wanted to do. But once we started to make Star Trek films that tension went away. I became very comfortable with working occasionally on a Star Trek movie and doing other work as well.
Mantle: Have you talked with other actors who have had a character that has been so broken out and so singular that it has made it difficult to transition into other acting work…and have you offered advice.
Nimoy: It varies from individual to individual. Some actors are very comfortable doing whatever comes along as a result of….I guess what I am trying to say is that typecasting is a double edged sword. Yes it does preclude you from offered certain kind of work, but at the same time it gives you an identity. And that identity in the acting business can be very useful. I have never been out of work since Star Trek went on the air. I have never needed to look for a job. There has always been something. And very often it is things that are different than Mr. Spock.
You can listen to the entire interview at the KPCC website (Scroll down to Wed. Jan 30) and click ‘LISTEN’ next to Nimoy’s name.
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FIRST!!
first, Maybe?
He is the man!
First cool. I think this is great and that is a tremenduous endorsement for the Movie. also I think he is reflecting back on a long career that is closer to its end than to the begining
Hey! I am finally the 1st..Any way, I really enjoy heraing this guy speak and talk. Nimoy is a very intelligent individual. I wish him lots of success. he said in an interview that Spock is such an iconic character that to NOT be identified with that role now in his life would be illogical!
Go Spock!
Nimoy is the best… so glad he is behind this new film!
First=? Seriously? you want a cookie? Are you proud of yourself or something? Do you really think there is a contest and by pressing refresh all day long waiting for a new news story you are cool? How old are you? 10? maybe an immature 12?
Well, next time. I will be the 1st. Ha AH!
Always great to hear from Nimoy, and I maintain hopeful optimism for this “very interesting script” he speaks of :)
If there was one actor in the whole group who can say they know Star Trek it would be Nimoy, so for him to say that he is impressed with JJ Abrams and his team means a lot. I am looking forward to the movie.
I wonder who was #7 pissed off at???
I want a cookie…
Yet Nimoy also said that the movie would be better with Shatner in it.
I’m glad to see that he’s comfortable (now) with being typecast. Although my father (James Doohan) was typecast in his role as “Scotty”, he never felt like it limited him in any way. He “Loved being Scotty”
As far as what Leonard said about J.J. and the writers, I couldn’t agree more.
Looking forward to seeing L.N. on the big screen again.
Wonderful interview!
Great to hear he’s got a sense of humor about some of the “high” points of his career!
Peace. Live long and prosper.
Auntie Vulcanista }:-|
whats with the “first” jackass’s? Is their life so poor the only spark of hope is posting first to a message board. wow thats sad…
16th! Yes!
11:
No, I”m with #7. I get sick to death of this “first” thing. It’s annoying as hell. I know of sites that ban it… I wish this one would.
As much as I am a HUGE fan of Mr Nimoy it is getting a little annoying that everytime he says ANYTHING we get comments like.
“Go Spock… Nimoy is the best”
“He’s the man”
“I think this is great. What an endorsment of the movie”
Didn’t Mr Nimoy also work on ST V and “Spock’s Brain”?
The only thing worst than that was when the writers, directors and stars (Don’t get me wrong I’m a fan of all of them)of the film did a chat with us. They only answered soft ball questions like “will the doors swoosh” or “What did it feel like when (fill in the blank)
Some of you guys are like that Chris Farley skit on SNL when he interviewed Paul McCartney.
People have some dignity.
Looks like there are quite a few people pissed off! Anyway I am NOT one of those jackass #16. We dont KNOW each other. Just having a laugh with this 1st nonsense.
Spock Lives!
First, let me say that I’m enamored with this quote:
···They know the Star Trek story and they respect it and they have written a very interesting script.
For all those worried…. there it is in black and white from Nimoy that one need not worry.
Second, creative use of “First” is good. #4 almost was there. Examples for future Trekmovie Firsters follow. (Because all they care about is firsting, we ought to call them firsters.)
Furst!, as in Stephen. What’s he’s up to these days? I’d give my left foot to know.
Fürst!, is German for Prince.
etc.
I am first! Just because I am a very slow typist doesn’t keep me from beating everyone else to the punch on this one! Whoopeee!
Good to see Nimoy has confidence in them, it instills confidence in me that they will do a good job.
#23…
D’oh!
#22: On the other hand, the phrase “very interesting” could be interpreted a lot of ways :)
I could go for seeing Stephen Furst again, too.
Go Shatner!
More reassuring news from an unimpeachable source. Warms the cockles of my heart, such as they are…
On a wholly unrealted topic:
Fade in:
“A long time ago on a data network far, far, away …”
Black, then:
“FIRST WARS
It is a period of civil war in the Star Trek fanbase…”
enough already….
#19
Chris Farley ” you remember that episode where you did that neck pinch thingy on that bad guy?………..”
Leonard Nimoy “yes……”
Chris Farley ” That was…….AWESOME!!!!”
Its always great to hear from Mr. Nimoy, he is a first class act. I recently met him in San Diego at a small charity event and he is what he appears to be, a really down to earth guy, unlike some other actors…
….BTW, why is it so important to be first? Is there a prize Anthony is giving away by being first?
If so, I will sit at my computer and hit F8 all day….
It’s always great to hear from Mr. Nimoy…. He obviously doesn’t need the work or money, so for him to do the Movie, says a lot….
GIVE THE “FIRST”-BASHING A REST…
I don’t really care if someone posts this “first” nonsense… yeah, it’s silly, but is it really THAT hard to skip down to the next comment??? It’s not like these guys are taking up a ridiculous amount of space/bandwidth on this site.
One could argue that the paragraph (or more) rants against “first-ers” are more annoying than the actual five-letter + exclamation point posts.
Both camps are pretty silly about this NON-controversy.
Well, if Nimoy’s okay with the role and the movie, it’ll work wonders. I must say that all the Trek movies that he directed were better than the one the Shatner did. ST V sucked. I’m sorry. It was horrific.
I was hoping to hear more from Leonard’s blog. Was that just going to be a couple of entries?
#14: It’s wonderful to see you posting here, Mr. Doohan. Glad to hear you got a spot in the new movie, as well.
I’m really looking forward to it. (:
As long as he approves of it, I’m reasonably content that it’ll be good.
#7.good post!!! The first-ers are lame.
^
Chris Doohan great to see your post here today. I just want to say that I loved your dad and we miss him!!!!
^
Nimoy sounds like he’s read the script and gave it a thumbs up.
I wonder if elder Spock teaches young spock the “Vulcan neck pinch”.
I sure hope we see Spock use that in the new film. I always loved that!
#30 Why does everyone say he “obviously” does not need the money? how do we know. His last Trek appearence was 18 years ago and the sales of his trek appearences are not exactly gan busters anymore. His royalties at this point are far from impressive. Other than that he has done a couple of voice appearences on Futureama, some voice work for video games, and some photagraphy books. All that is enough to keep him comfortable and busy and apparently happy and i ahve nothing but respect for the man, but to say that thoes things put him in a position where the money from another Star Trek moive is not a motivating factor is absurd.
To Chris Doohan – I met your dad in West Palm Beach at a ST convention in or about 1986-87 and I will always remember him saying to me, “the best way to remember on how to pronounce my name would be if you were doing this or doing that….” He then autographed his picture, shook my hand, and always had a smile on his face….
Glad to see your post, welcome….
#14 – …and your dad was certainly great at “being Scotty,” Chris. He was a class act.
Hi Chris, you’re dad was just the sweetest guy and easily was the actor I saw at the most conventions since the earliest days. It was apparent he loved us as much as we did him. I was choked up and proud to sign the nose cone of the rocket that took his ashes up. God bless him.
oh and First! Now for dat cookie, *yum yum*
#13—So he and Bill are friends. Is this something new? This article is about Nimoy.
#14–I agree, Chris. He sounds more comfortable and even proud of it now than I have ever heard him before. What better tribute is there than to be identified with a character so iconic that he is still asked play the role after 40+ years? My childhood would not have been the same without him OR your father!
#19–”Didn’t Mr Nimoy also work on ST V (?)”
At least he did not direct it…Spock was and still is my favorite Star Trek character. I won’t apologize for that.
As for “Spock’s Brain”, well…The actors had far more creative authority on the films.
#26–Talk about a “lack of dignity…(sigh)” Voodoo, maybe you should talk to this guy…At least the Leonard fans can find the right thread, even if their enthusiasm frightens you.
#30, Nimoy himself said in the interview that he didn’t need to earn a living as an actor anymore.
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
41st???
#37–Are you suggesting his words about the new film are not genuine? That he doesn’t really feel the script is something special? I hope not.
#30 Meant to add: However, I’m $ure that there were a whole $lew of zero$ behind the dollar $ign$ to get him $igned back up a$ $pock!
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
Sorry, coming down with a cold here and brain is locking regularly today. Those last posts were for #37.
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
#37 did you know that Leonard and Susan Nimoy Donated $1 Million to the Griffith Observatory Renovation project…
That aint peanuts….
#45–A$ there $hould Be!
#44 Im not saying that his words are ingenuine, or that he “needed” to take the role. All I am saying is that he is not sitting on the kind of money that would just let him look at JJ’s Pay check and think the financial benefits are inconsiquential. He might not need the money at all, but its got to be real nice to get that kind of paycheck for appearing in a movie after years of smaller projects. Just remember everything you read from him is still being given to you from a niche actor who is being paid and paid well to be in a film. With taht said I am very excited about the new movie, jsut not ready to turn off all common sense when every time Mr. Nimoy says something to an interviewer.
#14, (Chris Doohan) I know you cannot speak specifically about your experiences in the film, but what are your general impressions about the production?
#47 Thats very true, however, what you have to realize is that people in different tax brackets view the money they have in very dofferent ways. Notice i never said that he needed to take the job. What I did say is that in all likelyhood he is not sitting on enough money to make the paycheck from this endevor insignificant. There are alot of actors that donate taht knid of money that are very motivated by big budget paychecks. Is Mr. nimoy somehow richer than A list actors who ahve worked for 20+ years? Its just reality. Also keep in mind that he donated that 1 million over 6 years ago now without a major “Paycheck” project inbetween. Im not belittleing him his money, i think he deservs every cent he gets from his work, but to say that money was not a motivation is naive.
#49–That’s understandable. I choose to see his kind words about the project as a supplement to the other exciting tidbits about the film, not the end-all-be-all. If his past comments about certain previous Trek films are any indication, though, his words about this project can reasonably be taken at face value.
He was obviously unimpressed with Generations, or he would not have turned down easy money. He has also implied in the past that doing STV was a favor to his friend, Bill–who was directing. I cannot remember him ever hyping those two projects, otherwise I might take his words with a grain of salt. His praise of the script IS meaningful to me, and I expect it is sincere.
#7 “How old are you? 10? maybe an immature 12? ”
I’d have to ask the same to you, are you a crotchety 80 year old man taking a break from chasing kids of fyour lawn?
It takes me a LOT longer to read through posts like yours, that complain about it, than it does to read the word “first”.
And I can’t wait to see some pics of Nimoy as Spock once again. I’ve heard his hair will be gray, which will be a great look for him, especially in contrast to Quintos black hair.
Although I can really appreciate Mr. Nimoy’s efforts to be something else/more in his career. . . there’s a thing I call the “Leonard Nimoy effect”, where an actor goes, after a time of being type cast, “Okay, I’m Spock” (or Batman or Gilligan) or whoever. And you say, “people love me. I’m making money. How bad could it be?”
#14 Chris Re: #50 – Thanks for stopping in again, Chris!
Had many entertaining encounters with your dad throughout the years, one on Seatrek in ‘93. Now THAT was one memorable trip!
So… were you a redshirt? Just a simple yes or no, maybe??
FIRST!!!!!!
Oh Crap….
Nevermind
Oh…
Nevermind
lol!
Chris Farley: Um, hi. Welcome to The Chris Farley Show. I’m.. Chris Farley.. and, my guest tonight is.. one of the.. greatest musicians.. uh, rock musicians. I guess, songwriter, ever. [ Smacks himself ] GOD! That sounds stupid! God, I’m an idiot! I never know how to start these things!
Paul McCartney: You’re doing great, Chris.
Chris Farley: [ hopeful ] Really? No, I’m not. [ hyperventilating ] Anyway.. I guess.. I didn’t have, have to say, who you were, because.. man, I mean.. everyone knows who you are. Mmm.. you’re Paul McCartney.
Paul McCartney: Well, it’s great to be here.
Chris Farley: [ uncomfortable ] You.. you.. you remember when you were with The Beatles?
Paul McCartney: Yeah, sure.
Chris Farley: That was awesome!
Paul McCartney: Yeah, it was.
Chris Farley: O-kay.. Oh! You.. you remember when you went to Japan.. and, uh, and at the airport they arrested you ’cause you had some pot, and.. it made all the papers, and everything..?
Paul McCartney: Well, to be honest, Chris, I’d kind of like to forget all of that.
Chris Farley: [ smacks himself harder ] IDIOT!! That’s so stupid! What a dumb question!!
Paul McCartney: No, no, no, Chris. I get asked that all the time in interviews. Maria Shriver asked the same question last week.
Chris Farley: Really? [ pause ] Did you know that she’s married to Arnold Schwartzenegger?
Paul McCartney: Yeah. I’ve heard that.
Chris Farley: Did you see “Terminator”?
Paul McCartney: No, I missed that one.
Chris Farley: That was a pretty awesome flick. [ pause ] O-kay.. remember.. you remember when you were with The Beatles, and you were supposed to be dead, and, uh, there was all these clues, that, like, uh, you played some song backwards, and it’d say, like, “Paul Is Dead”, and, uh, everyone thought that you were dead? That was, um, a hoax, right?
Paul McCartney: Yeah. I wasn’t really dead.
Chris Farley: Right. I think we.. I think we got time for one more question. Uh.. remember when you were in The Beatles? And, um, you did that album Abbey Road, and at the very end of the song, it would.. the song goes, “And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make”? You.. you remember that?
Paul McCartney: Yes.
Chris Farley: Uh.. is that true?
Paul McCartney: Yes, Chris. In my experience, it is. I find, the more you give, the more you get.
Chris Farley [ ecstatic, starts to point at Paul and mouth "AWESOME!" ] Well, that’s it for this week’s show. Thank you, Paul McCartney, thank you, for being one of the greatest.. of rock.. I mean, a living legend. And uh, a legend of rock and roll.. and.. just thanks for being on the show, and.. [ smacks himself even harder ] GOD DANGIT! That sounded stupid! I knew I’d screw up!
Paul McCartney: You did fine, you did fine, Chris.
Chris Farley: Really? Thanks, man. Thanks. Thank you. [ Outro music comes on, Chris continues to talk to Paul ] Remember.. remember when I was talking to you about “The Terminator”? You.. you should see that movie, it’s pretty cool..
[ Paul nods his head ]
LAST!!!!! for the moment
@14 Chris – great story about your dad. And I too, look forward to seeing Leonard and yourself on the big screen
The adventure continues….
I am Spock….I am Not Spock…..I am Spock……..I am not Spock…….MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!! LOL!!!!
I love to see every star trek movie with Spock. But because he is after Star Trek 7 until Star trek 10 so 4 movies not seen(ON the Enterprise)is not on star trek 7 8 9 and 10 i am really hoping that one day the would bring the episode Unification part 1 and 2 as one great Bonus movie(with some special extras and edition)between the movies 7 and 10. as I say earlyer on a featured Star Trek Box Set.as Star trek 7.5 or 8.5 Before First or to put is after First Contact in a futures Box Contact.It should be a nice cross over from the old cast earlyer movies to the new movies since first contact. Star Strek Mission Unficication as an Extra Bonus Movie On a Futures Star Trek Box. THx For Saying ths(It coud also very good for The next generation Movies to put this 2 episodes as one bonus movie Between the other MOVIES in a futures box
about this above i Say It makes a Star trek box also more Original in my opinon see nr 64.
31 – Should I take this moment to point out that you wrote a lengthy post complaining about the lengthy post complaining about firsters? Wait… but I just wrote a post complaining about a post complaining…. GAK!
*head explodes*
I think we’re about done here…
First sucks. chicks dig 67th.
ugh! is that a real player file? nevermind, I’ll just read the text. Thought I was back in 1999 for a second.
Actually I heard chicks love #68 and especially # 69 ;-)
#69-”Actually I heard chicks love #68 and especially # 69″
Kind of depends on the girl.
Hell, a girl will go with a guy who’s 71 if he has enough dough! :)
There once was a man from NanVulcan
When not in pon farr, he’d be sulkin’
One day with a sheepish grin
He said, as he rubbed his chin
“I don’t get as much sex as Macauley Culkin!”
LOL
We should try to combine the “first/anti-first” thing with the “condemning an unseen movie/being an apologist for an unseen movie” thing. Like, we could divide into teams … one team could start hating the next thread in advance on the theory that someone might post “FIRST!!! Woohoo!” in it, and another group of people could take the calmer position and post lengthy, thoughtful responses pointing out that not all threads begin that way, and sum up with total confidence that the next thread will be awesome, and that people needn’t worry about the firsting.
I’ll stay in character by taking neither side, but just expressing a mix of cautious optimism and mild concern about whether or not the next thread will begin with someone geeking out over posting first, and care most about whether the _spirit_ of the first post is maintained, rather than the canon history of first posts. I will (very occasionally) indulge in discussing whether or not Shatner would consider dropping by to say “first!” too minor a cameo to be worth his time.
Chris Doohan.
Do you know if they will be explaining how the transporter works in this film? Will it be any different? – Thanks
Capt Abe is first… and that is the order of things :P
Here’s how we will see Shatner… After the credits roll, those still in the theater see a pile of rocks on a desolate mountain top… the camera moves in… suddenly a hand thrusts up through the rocks! Kirk sits up, dusts his jacket off, then turns and looks at the camera… and says “I’m back!”
The scene blacks out and the words “Star Trek 12… coming soon!”
Nimoy had directed Shatner in Star Treks III and IV. Nimoy saying no to Star Trek V and undermining Shatner’s chance to have the same career advancement would have been a low thing to do. Star Trek V is irrelevant to evaluating Nimoy’s involvement in the new film.
So, just like the end of _Carrie_, then?
re: 60 Spud
That was awesome.
So when are they going to show what the uniforms look like?
#47
That, among other charities that they support.
Nimoy also got the theater at said observatory named after him as a gesture of their gratitude.
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
#67, 69(!), 70, 71:
It’s not the number the chicks dig. It’s what you do with that number that counts.
Time for “Lost.”
Bye.
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
This Trek news is all well and good… but can we argue about the whole FIRST thing some more???
;)
Things to argue about:
-Who’s on first
-Is that a canon in your pants or did you just read a spoiler
-Shatner as Kirk-Shatner as Denny Crane-Shatner in-Shatner out-shake it all about
-I’m a better Trek fan than you, just ask my mom
-Let’s do the time (travel) warp again
-As the nacelles spin
-Scream about HD til you’re Blu-Ray in the face
-This movie is not “pure” enough-must sterilize
-I can’t belive CBS is charging that much for the remastered eps. Leave me alone while I play with my MR Enterprise
-I STILL say that the Cloverfield monster is either a whale or a lion. But I have seen it and it is indeed huge
Anthony,
Can you please delete / ban / vaporise all the “first’ people?
We had enough.
Ran
THX….you is COOKIN’ tonight, sir! :)
He’s a beautiful human being.
#84
ROTFLMFAO!!!
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
I’ve always felt that Mr. Nimoy had a great handle on what Star Trek was all about, and how to make GOOD Star Trek. The evidence is in his sincere portrayal of Mr. Spock, and his work on TSFS and TVH. When he expresses his enthusiasm for the new film, it speaks volumes about what kind of Star Trek we are in for. There is no doubt that Mr. Nimoy would not be returning to the studio, the make-up, the interviews, the hours, if he didn’t feel the project was worthwhile (why would he?). I’m happy to see him as Spock again, and I’m feelin pretty good about the new film.
PS: I agree about deleting the “first” comments. I don’t care if those people are attention-starved, it’s a ridiculous thing to do, and that space could be put to better use.
19. VOODOO – February 7, 2008
And the “angels” don’t sing a similar tone when Shatner has a story?
Find your own dignity… that wasn’t worth a complaint.
So, yeah, this Spock thing. Crazy, huh? I am not Spock. Turns out, I am Spock after all. Number one Vulcan indeed.
Nimoy.
His demeanor has endeared him to the Trek fans and one could argue that he is almost as responsible for the “long life” of Star Trek as Roddenberry himself. His writing and directing credits on the TOS movies speak to that. I think that he is the true standard bearer and link to the heart of Star Trek. With MUCH respect to the rest of the surviving cast members.
Take your Alka Seltzer Cold, Vulvanista. The weekends coming.
There are four lights. Or there are only two and Harry and I have had too much Romulan Ale.
Ahem…er…..”VulCANista” that should have said.
Honest to gosh, that was a typo. I have a dirty mind, but I also have the love and respect for you. My bad.
THX………
…..wonderful stuff, that Romulan Ale!
What a coincidence, I used to drive a Vulva! :)
Odd. I thought this talkback section might refer to what Nimoy said, not who’s on first or whatever.
Nimoy says it’s cool. I grok that.
THX……since Romulan Ale is a little hard to come by at current time, what is your drink of choice for most occasions?
Other than a nice cold Kokanee (I can be reached for endorsements, fine Kokanee folks), I like a nice double shot on the rocks of Crown Royal (same holds true for you folks). I try to keep it in moderation. This past Halloween was memorable for my lack of memory about the whole occasion.
Y tu, Harry?
there is a website that in discussion groups like this,t if you post first in the first entry, it will randomly put you post at the bottom, middle or anywhere, I have that site bookmarked at work and maybe Anthony could use that tool to put an end to all this child like behavior, which tends to take things off topic.
I will post this site tomorrow and or email Anthony the site so this ” first” thing
I stick to mainly red or white wine……my weakness is that I tend to splurge on vintage stock………….expensive, but worth every sip!
Special occasions call for champagne……like the night I go to see Trek XI!!
will be put to a end
Quite civilized, old boy. I’m downright vulgar in my tastes, by comparison.
Actually wine and champagne tend to give me headaches in whatever quantity I imbibe.
I guess I’m driving to the premier, then.
And Jorg, I made an effort in post #91 to talk about the topic at hand. For what it’s worth. Don’t I know you?
#100?
THX…..not to belabour it, but wouldn’t it be a HOOT if the core group of us could see the movie together when it opens?
Harry and THX, wine talk again?
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While no one’s perfect, I like that ONE of the original cast is present and glad he’s there. What a fine addition to the cast, one of the original vintage and likely the best overall choice.
Core group? And who pray tell proclaimed whom and endorsed them? Is a separate post every other sentence while camped here is all that is needed to qualify? Think then I’ll happily wait to borrow the DVD from someone.
Xai…..while we talk wine, you’re making vintage remarks concerning Mr. Nimoy…classic!
p.s. you are part of the core group I was suggesting see the film together…probably a logistical stretch, but fun to think about. All we need now is Lord Garth and we’re set to go! :)
p.p.s. YUBinit……it’s a personal determination as to who is part of the core, but if you’re willing to “park” the snooty jibes, you’re welcome, too!
re: 89
“PS: I agree about deleting the “first” comments. I don’t care if those people are attention-starved, it’s a ridiculous thing to do, and that space could be put to better use.”
There is infinitely more space taken up by those who protest the “firsts” than there is in the actual item. Witness this post which would be unnecessary if not for having to respond to someone else’s criticism of “first” as taking up too much space. If you want to criticize “first” for some other reason than that it takes up too much space, then by all means do so, but the argument that “first” takes up too much space is really not that valid. On my computer screen, it takes up, ohhhhh, maybe an inch or two.
You, see, if you quit protesting the firsts, they would eventually die of natural causes because all the fun would go out of it. I did a statistical analysis with the help of some Bailey guy, and found out that 73.6% of the “first” posting are done “out of spite” towards the anti-firsters. Not only that, but of the 63.6, 99% said they felt “very good” about the irritation they cause to the anti-firsters. You take away the protests, and all that good feeling goes out the window and, voila!…a significant reduction in “firsts” !
···They know the Star Trek story and they respect it and they have written a very interesting script.
For all those worried…. there it is in black and white from Nimoy that one need not worry.
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I tend to disagree with ANY statement that claims JJ Abrams and Co. “respects and knows the Star Trek story,” especially since they don’t even consider the TOS universe good enough “as is” to make a movie in, not without feeling compelled to mess with a ton of not-so-minor details.
We have to remember that Nimoy IS being PAID by these people, so it’s not like he’s going to turn around and criticize their decisions.
Or, it could be that, at 76, Nimoy is bedazzled by all the blinking lights on set!
After their morning bowel movement anything else in life seems “fascinating” to a septuagenarian……m’yeah!
That’s not a mean statement, it’s just the nature of things….
Re: #85 Ran
I could be wrong but I seem to recall a posting of Anthony’s that gave the impression that he was more dismayed with the “complainers” than the “firsters”.
You DO realize that some of them do it just to vex you, don’t you? The best revenge is to ignore it.
Anyway…
When I heard that recording of Mr. Nimoy’s voice on the Teaser Trailer saying “Space — the final frontier…” (or something like that) I thought his voice sounded awful. It was kind of sad. I adore what he’s done with the character. He contributed a lot to the character development and if pressed, I would have to admit that he is my favourite character of all Trekdom. Others come a close second but he reigns supreme for me. It’s not often that an actor gets to visit the same character on and off throughout his acting career. (At least I can’t think of any this second — hey, it is late…).
Oh and #102 Harry,
I AM ***SO*** THERE.
kg
Re: #106. Stanky McFibberich
Dang, Stanky. While I was typing you posted and beat me to it. Oh well. Great Trekkers think alike and geeks seldom differ. (What?)
Better go to sleep.
kg
#109
Welcome aboard, Katie! :)
Re: #111 Harry
Thanks, Dude.
Oops. Do we use the word “dude” on this website? :-|
kg
arrrr….
I trust Nimoy… Captain Nemo he be…
And all I can else say is that, for this film to be good and bonny and great, well, I have faith of the heart…
arrrrrrrr….
Re: #84. I AM THX-1138
I agree with #84 The Vulcanista.
Some of your lines are hilarious.
My fave:
“This movie is not “pure” enough — must sterilize.”
I can just hear Nomad now…
kg
115th!!
The awesome British series SKINS has a picture on their website showing one of the kids (ANWAR) at a Science Fiction convention and wearing a trek uniform.
It also has abit about is (gay) best friend telling how he just watched all seven seasons of TNG but hated it.
This series was already supercool, but if they decide to include some trek-bits in the second season it will be übercool!
.14 Chris, thats why your dad was awesome!
#60
LOL. Yes, I remember that one (shudder…)
#63
He’s working at the sequel: Becoming the Spock I’ve never wanted to be. :)
No, really, I saw Nimoy at that huge ST convention in Bonn/Germany a couple of years ago and he was really nice, funny and adorable.
And I think his endorsement of STXI is great, accounting for his 50 % of the original Kirk-Spock dynamic. It’s just that I don’t think they should settle for 50 %.
#34, 36, 41, 62 and 117. Thanks, I appreciate your comments. It means a lot.
#38 How are you Doohan
#40 Thanks for signing. I wish I could have been there. More of his ashes will be going up later this year (hopefully) and staying up there. No round trip this time.
#50 I only spent a few days on the set (going back in March to do more), but I can say that I was really impressed with EVERY aspect of the production. As I said before, Star Trek is in good hands.
#55 I’ve alway wanted to go on a SeaTrek. Maybe someday.
#75 Don’t know.
#119
Welcome Chris – to me, your dad will always be the one and *only* Scotty.
I had the honor and pleasure of meeting him, too, at a convention in the mid-nineties in a town called Bochum in Germany. His guest panel was extremely funny and well received and afterwards he was patiently and cordially giving autographs outside the hall although the weather conditions were extremely unpleasant. A very memorable day.
Thanks for posting here; it’s very much appreciated.
Hello and welcome, Chris,
I’ll go a different tangent here– your father’s interpretation of the Scotty character is going to be what all others will be measured by, no matter how many remakes and incarnations of TOS Trek there will be in the future. The last time I had the opportunity to meet him, I was about 500th in an autograph line and he was still willing to shake hands and talk for a moment to me. Such a great guy!
>>but I can say that I was really impressed with EVERY aspect of the production. As I said before, Star Trek is in good hands.
>>
That should settle the nerves of a few fans, as well. :) Thanks for taking the time to pour some water on the fires of irrational fear.
THX-1138… I don’t know, have we met?
#107– You said,
“I tend to disagree with ANY statement that claims JJ Abrams and Co. “respects and knows the Star Trek story,” especially since they don’t even consider the TOS universe good enough “as is” to make a movie in, not without feeling compelled to mess with a ton of not-so-minor details.”
Who gets to determine which details are minor and which ones are not-so-minor? The producers of TMP did not feel the TOS universe “as is” was good enough to make a movie in without “messing” with minor details, either. What did they do? They came up with a canon explanation as to why it was different, which if I am not mistaken (and I am not), is exactly what Mr. Orci told us they would do as well…
Mr. Orci: “Anything which appears to violate canon will have a canon explanation”.
You also said,
“We have to remember that Nimoy IS being PAID by these people, so it’s not like he’s going to turn around and criticize their decisions.”
No, he probably will not, especially since he thought enough of the project to agree to bring the Spock we know and love out for this. He could have had an easy payday if he had agreed to appear in Generations. It did not interest him. Maybe that says something, and maybe it does not, but it seems to me that you have no reason to doubt him…
“
- There’s no chance to see a ship like USS Prometheus from VOYAGER ..or another ds-9 DEFIANT ..anymore..isn’t it…?
Too bad..i hate dusted things…
104.
You are hereby banned from any possible participation in our clique. Harry, Stanky and I will NOT be sending you an invite. : )
#122…. you said: “Who gets to determine which details are minor and which ones are not-so-minor? The producers of TMP did not feel the TOS universe “as is” was good enough to make a movie in without “messing” with minor details, either. What did they do? They came up with a canon explanation as to why it was different, which if I am not mistaken (and I am not), is exactly what Mr. Orci told us they would do as well…”
Right on. If Gene himself thought that a new Trek shoujld be updated, why should we begrudge a new Trek looking every bit as good as any movie made?
I swear, some people won’t be happy until all of the sets and models on the show are recreated. Well, for them, there’s new TOS on The New Voyages. I say, watch those, and let us enjoy the movie come December.
Jorg, you seem so familiar. But I do have a tendency to “turn things around”.
And why isn’t TK-421 at his station?
#22
LOL
Don’t forget FOIST, which is a sort of archaic word for one’s swiping something that does not belong to one.
#125–It is very simple. Certain inflexible fans are more than willing to accept changes made in the past (whether to canon, set design, etc.) to Star Trek, but scream “blastphemy” when any potential changes (for the same reasons, mind you) are discussed as possibilities for the latest film.
Gene Roddenberry can make a Klingon look like a Ruffles potato chip in TMP, Nick Meyer can declare the movie era as officially within the 23rd Century in TWOK and contradict that within the same film, and later filmmakers can depict those same Klingons as suddenly embracing the Romulan practice of painting their ships like “Birds Of Prey” in STIII—yet Orci, Abrams, Kurtzman, etc. are buried by these self-proclaimed “purists” before the movie is done shooting.
#126–”And why isn’t TK-421 at his station?”
He is busy aboard an intergalactic whooptie, being ambushed by Indiana Jones and some kid wearing a hotel bathrobe and tan pants.
- BEAM ME UP..SCOTTY..!
#91
It’s 1:30 in the afternoon. I have a Nyquil-induced hangover. I look like roadkill right now.
Yet I’m ROTFLMFAO! I knows ya didn’t mean it. But still watch out for that rogue “v” key. :)
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
Aye… Mr. Nimoy…
A career as varied as Shatner’s but without the parody…
First officer, a Bangle’s video (or wazzit the Go-Gos?), Ancient Mysteries, In Search Of, Three Men an’ a Baby, some odd Amish movie with the lad from 3rd Rock, film on Van Gogh, book of rubenesque nudies, biblical film roles, Bilbo-Baggins sing-along, impossible missions, and I’m sure much more…
Talk about being vulcanized in life… fur ye wee ones, that analogy means hardened and able to weather things well…
Wait… he also sailed the Nautilus as captain, right????
arrr arrr arrrr
Dear Vukcanista,
You and I share the same affliction today, and not surprisingly, the same medication (Nyquil and rum is the all-time cold-buster). Tell me, what type of tissues do you prefer – Puffs-plus or regular, and have you succumbed to the temptation of staying in flannel pajamas all day?
I cannot believe I spelled Vulcanista incorrectly. How difficult is it to spell Vulcanista? The whoozy is going to my head… I mean the Nyquil…
#133/34
LOL! I feel your headcold!
Yeah, that Nyquil is dangerous stuff. I’m allergic to Puffs, so it’s generic white tissues for me. And I’m halfway between PJs and sweats. I’m wearing “lounge pants” and an old sweatshirt.
It’s not pretty. Not pretty at all.
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
My parents and I use to lay around on the sofa rubbing each others’ feet while watching Star Trek when I was a girl. When I had a cold, I got a backrub as well. I would like to give Mr. Nimoy a footrub and a backrub…
Wow, between the “first” fiasco, post #84, and “Vulvanista,” this is shaping up to be the funniest talkback ever.
Special shout out to the sick folks, I’m in the same boat as well…
Wasn’t “Vulvanista” an holiday that the ancient Romans dedicated to Venus with liberty and extra orgies for all?
Nyquil and rum makes you forget you are sick until the unstoppable sneezing starts. Then, after 3 minutes have elapsed and all the fluids have been expelled from you body via your mouth, nose and eyes, you forget again and can resume daydreaming about the big N. wearing a loincloth… Shame on me… I’m a bad little sick girl…
Vulcanista
you obviously are so HOT that you make people type the wrong key, even when they’re not in the same room as you!
Old sweatshirt? You could be wearing BURLAP and I’d still be yelling, “GOTSTA HAVE YA!!”
Get well soon! :)
138Jim- LOL liberty and extra orgies for all!
arrrr… every day is a Vulvanista when ya be aboard the HMS Sulu…
dunna ask, dunna tell…
#138 “Vulvanista”
Hmph…..sounds like a Mexican gynecologist! :)
too true Harry – and were he or she a bullfighter, the crowd would cry “Viva Vulvanista!”
(so far off topic here I’m gonna need a GPS and USGS map to get back…)
Vulcanista, looks like you are now the proud owner of an affectionately-bestowed, sexually-charged nickname… always nice to get a new one…
#138–If it wasn’t, then it should have been…
#145 “always nice to get a new one”
You’re telling me! Nothing better in life than when you get a new…..
….oh, wait……..no, I better not! Anthony would ban me until the movie opens! :)
I swear, the “c” and the “v” keys are right next to each other! It was a typo!
And if you are curious about so called “vulvanistas” in film, go check out “Teeth”. But don’t say I didn’t warn you.
It is my sincerest wish that you ladies feel better. Get well…..errr….stop feeling sick!
(darned double entendre)
Oh, Gawd!
Bless your hearts…
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
#143–Or a bad skinamax spoof involving Nicaraguan communists and well…you get the picture.
Tonight on Cinemax After Dark (10pm): “Vulvanistas”-TVMA
#148
Don’t worry about it! I’ve been giggling over it ever since I read it. You just may have won the Funniest Typo of 2008.
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
Radical feminist wannabe-lesbians: Vulvanistas
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
TK-421 went off to shoot at Ensign Rickie, only to miss (as all TK’s do) and he blew a gaping hole in the transporter relay controls. Scotty says it’ll take a week to fix, so Sulu and the boys are stuck on the planet because everyone forgot the ship had shuttlecraft.
#150 – where’s Bob Orci when you need him – this thing’s got legs!
#152-M’Lady, The VulCanista-”You just may have won the Funniest Typo of 2008.”
Still early yet.
And, Jorg, Rickie fired first.
#154–And somewhere between them is “the amazing Vulvanista”! Oh, did I go too far? I hope not…
-HOT GIRLS…COOL!
#156 – sounds like a plot twist to me…or is that a twisted plot….i wonder
158Jim- I think “twisted plot” would be closer to what you and the rest of the boys have spinning around in those dirty little minds of yours. Of course, since VulCanista and I are drunk on Nyquil, we probably have some of those twisted little plot details gurgling around in there as well. Actually, it doesn’t really take the Nyquil to get me to thinking along the lines of twisted plot lines – something I would never admit unless I were, in fact, drunk on the stuff.
Wow. I’m gone for a while and the whole thread disintegrates. Whatever happened to the little series we called Star Trek? Hello? :-)
And, by the way, I’m betting that “Jorg Sacul” is “Lucas Groj”, or at least his first name is Lucas.
Some actors were quite distraught over their “typecasting”. Anthony Perkins, George Reeves, Christopher Reeve… (can’t think of any more). Guess like Mr. Nimoy says it can work both ways. If it works for you, that’s okay but if no one will let you be anyone else — oh, another one was Andy Griffith. Took him forever to sucessfully get another character and it wasn’t that far from the type of sheriff he played. (Old country boy.) He finally just let it go.
While I’m watching “Back To You” I can’t help but see Frasier Crane. Problem was, “Frasier” lasted for years so you really got used to the character. He was even “Frasier” in “Cheers”. Wonder how his new sitcom is doing?
I did visit some of the movies that Mr. Nimoy was in and just couldn’t get used to him with regular ears. He was in a “Columbo” episode as a murderous surgeon. Cool. But I wanted Mr. Spock. He is a very talented man and could have done anything but I’m glad Leonard didn’t get fed up with it!!
Thank you for hanging in, Mr. Nimoy!! You helped form one of the greatest characters on the small and Silver screens.
kg
#159–Wonderful stuff…that Nyquil.
#160 – (Someone was bound to reel the thread back in) Don’t forget that Mr. Nimoy did a stint on “Mission:Impossible” – anyone remember Paris? I can also recall seeing him in a variety of different touring stage productions after the demise of TOS – Sherlock Holmes comes to mind…typecasting most likely worked in his favor on that one.
160Katie- A little trivia about the “Columbo” episode of which you speak: Since Nimoy’s character was an extremely intelligent, as well as cunning, murderous surgeon, he really got under Columbo’s skin. Henceforth, that was the only Columbo episode in which Columbo got so frustrated that he actually yelled.
And don’t forget Nimoy as Dr. David Kibner in the 1978 remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. That was a good remake, as far as I’m concerned, at least it scared me when I was a kid. Nimoy played the part of an alien well, if you can believe that.
“We come from a dying world….”
Vulvanista
with spelling like that it reminds me of my Grade 12 French teacher, Miss Roy…………a beautiful, sly brunette who would mercilessly tease the boys in her class.
My, she was a cunning linguist!
Uh, oh………………. (runs and hides)
165Harry- LOL! Harry, you are a bad, bad, bad, bad boy.
#164
Nimoy was wonderfully creepy in that, wasn’t he?
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
#165,
Harry, that was wonderfully creepy. :D
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
#165, #166, #168–When the “Vulvanista” is around, Harry’s two most distinguishing characteristics help to form their own version of the Vulcan salute!
#167 Vulcanista “Nimoy was wonderfully creepy”
#168 Vulcanista “Harry, that was wonderfully creepy”
So, in other words, you’re saying I remind you of Leonard Nimoy?
(gush) Why, thank you! I appreciate the heartfelt compliment! :)
169Closettrekker- I didn’t understand concerning Harry’s two most distinguishing characteristics. We might need you to go into some detail on this point – HD, bright colors, graphs, piecharts, whatever you need…
#166 Denise de Arman “Harry, you are a bad, bad, bad, bad boy”
Denise, I guess it’s wrong for me to be turned on when you call me a “bad boy”?
Oh, I’m SO ashamed! :)
166Harry- giggle…Why does this happen to me all the time – I get on a perfectly respectable ST thread, I call a guy a bad boy, he gets turned on, all the others are talking about Vulvanista’s, I mean Vulcanista’s sex life…
#173 – ah ok, so what’s a nice woman like you doing in a thread like this?
#171–That might get us all banned!!!!
Vulcanista, if only you hadn’t mentioned your Nyquil-induced haze, I wouldn’t have felt it necessary to expound on my own Nyquildrunkedness. This is the only state-of-mind in which I could ever watch “Spock’s Brain” – poor Mr. Nimoy – he hated making that episode (ref.I Am Spock). I feel him… I mean feel for him…
Yep, it’s going to be a long night.
Hopefully.
Nyquil in my veins
Syrup green as Vulcan blood
All judgement lost.
- Haiku for those under the weather -
Anthony, we’re having one of those naughty little Star Trek parties – doesn’t happen very often, only when 2 or more sci-fi chicks present have been inbibing Nyquil all day. Why don’t you have yourself a shot and join the festivities?…
#178 Jim “Haiku”
Hey, wasn’t that supposed to be Sulu’s first name until they changed it?? :)
Q: Denise, what does a woman say after having six orgasms in a row?
A: “Thanks, Harry!”
Re: #162 Jim
Totally forgot about Mission Impossible. Would love to see that again. Do you remember seeing him in the remake of “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” with a permed Donald Sutherland? And wasn’t Jeff Goldblum in it? Creepy…
Oops. A little off-topic.
Re: #163. Denise de Arman
Columbo loses his cool only once? Come to think of it, I don’t remember where else it occurs. Wow — I’ll have to tell my husband that one. He’s a huge fan. (Haven’t got all the DVDs yet.) Thanks!
And Re: #164 THX
Oops. Just read your post. It was good. Creepy but good.
As for the rest of you, I think I’ll get out while I’m still relatively unscathed. See you in another thread.
Whew.
kg
181Harry- giggling uncontrollably… I will not give you what you want Harry. I know you want me to call you a bad boy, and I will not as I AM IN CONTROL OF MY EMOTIONS…2,4,6,6…
Harry, ladies
this is a family site
Chris Doohan,
I was at a convention right before Trek VI came out and your father was there. He was so genuine and funny, but what I remember the most was that he pulled a girl up on stage who happened to be going through chemo at the time and gave her a big kiss. She was so appreciative she started to cry and he just hung on to her as the crowd cheered her on. It was a great human moment, a classic Scotty moment, and I’ll never forget it.
Anthony…….I’m honoured…………..it’s usually Ballz this and no you can’t Ballz that……this is the first time you’ve called me Harry……………
(sniff……..can’t talk……….choked up)
Denise……….where are you from?
Thanks for your forebearance, Anthony. It *was* fun!
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
#178
True. So true.
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
Anthony- What do you want from me – I called Harry a bad boy… and if you may recall, I invited you to join the festivities (grins guiltily). It wasn’t my fault, really, it was the Nyquil (which I just took another megadose of after awakening from a medicated stupor-of-sorts). If that’s not a good enough excuse, it was Vulv… I mean VulCanista’s fault… she never should have mentioned Nyquil or her cold to begin with…
Vulcanista- Sorry for throwing you under the bus with the authority figure in the house… you can type out a snide remark or two and hurl it my way… I can’t stand to be in bad standing with the male authority figure, it sends me screaming back to memories of my father giving me a disapproving look as he raised his eyebrow up to his hairline… oh, wait a minute, those are memories of Spock …
Harry- That is classified information and if I tell you then I’ll have to kill you.
Denise
………………………..you already kill me! :)
Harry- Glad to hear that I leave a good impression… I think…
Oh, it’s good………..believe me, it’s GOOD!!!
Good Harry, I am glad you’re happy…
Vulcanista, I need help! I said one too many mean things about Harry and now he’s totally enamored of me!
#194
ROTFLMFAO! Sorry, sweetpea, yer on yer own!
Just ask yourself: What would Spock do?
And if Mr. Nimoy happens to be perusing this thread at any time now or in the future, alls I gots to say is thank Vulcan for Internet anonymity, and I hope he had as good a laugh as we had!
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
Vulcanista- But one must be under the influence of the aforementioned green,syrupy liquid in order to totally grasp the true state of mind of its victims. The only examples of which I could cast Spock as a particapant would be the spores (he dallied around with Leila in the episode), or where he went through the Atravachon 5000 years in the past and de-evolved into a barbaric, passionate… uh, lost my train of thought there for a moment… Anyway, in that episode he dallied with Zarabeth. Only one other case I can recollect: the 2000 Psi virus where he wept, told Jim how much he valued his friendship… uh, think I’ll stop right there…
Vulcanista, how could you possibly advise me to do what Spock would do? Shame on you!
hairy ladies? i don’t see no hairy ladies…
Is this the thread about Spock typecasting and stuff?
Re: #198
No, this is the “Star-Trek-Fans-On-Nyquil-and-Their-Pheromones” thread.
kg
#196 Denise de Arman “in that episode he dallied with Zarabeth”
There once was a man who dallied with Denise
She got him so worked up, he begged for release
It finally got too much
In the game of love and such
That he joined a monastery, to finally get some peace!
#198–I’m afraid this thread lost its way long ago.
Sigh.
kg
Katie199- LOL! I am afraid you have correctly identified the situation in which we find ourselves this weekend. Feel like like the green goo in Ghostbusters (Bill Murray, “He SLIMED ME”), walking into the next room to grab more lime Gatorade is a hassle, so its easier to stay on the laptop in bed and play with Trek characters in my head (unfortunately, it ends up flowing out my fingers onto the keyboard). Sorry you guys have to suffer through the Nyquil-induced rants…
Harry- Take a pill!
Anybody seen Vulcanista today?
But, if I take a pill, it will only make matters worse!
Oh, wait, you don’t mean the pill I think you mean, do you? :)
Here!
And the fact that I’m Nyquil free today does not negate the fact that I am still a Brazen Hussy at times!
Katie: Re Nimoy and “Spock’s Brain,” didn’t Leonard almost quit the show over that episode? I haven’t read “I Am/Not Spock” books, but I seem to remember hearing something along those lines from Nimoy himself back in the 70s when Trek was coming off life support.
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
Vulcanista- I just got through begging you to join me at Sci-fi Slam in April on another thread. Leonardo and Quinto will both be there talking about the movie and I need someone to talk Spock with… Only two months away, but the filming should just about be over by then. We could blast the roof off the Marriott in Burbank!
Ref. Spock’s Brain- The entire cast was stuplified, but especially Leonardo. To make matters worse, it was the opening show of the third season…ugh.
Yes, with Spock’s Brain, they didn’t just jump the shark…..they killed it, chopped it up and served it for breakfast!
When you tell anyone that you’re a Trekkie and they cite that episode as an example……a little something dies inside, don’t you think?
#206 see reply in other thread.
“Spock’s Brain” is what did my mom in on Star Trek. She had loved it before then, but that episode tanked it for her. She never watched any more TOS after that. I think she enjoyed TNG, or maybe she just tolerated it out of love for us.
Anyways, Mom’s a Nimoy fan too. Like mother, like daughter, I ’spoze.
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
And further, “Spock’s Brain” is actually growing on me.
Would someone help me remove it?
[ducks, runs out the door to go shopping for Cancun...]
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
Re: #205. Vulcanista
“Spock’s Brain” Episode.
Naw, I love it all — including “Spock’s Brain” although I have heard that some parts made Leonard cringe. Any decent actor would (like Robert Reed, in “The Brady Bunch” — look at the stuff HE had to do).
My view is, don’t throw the baby out with the brain matter — uh, bath water. (Yeah, that was bad…) Some of the scenes there are hilarious, like:
“Brain and brain — what is brain?” That still cracks me up. And someone used that line in the thread “Shatner On Being Poor, Almost Dying, & The New Movie” in response to a complaint about the “firsters” — I laughed out loud:
“First and first — what is first?”
because I got the joke. Love it. Love it all. Even the badly-written ones because even the worst story had some great moments in it. I tend to ignore the storyline (if it’s bad) and just focus on the interactions of my fav 3.
Now that I think about it, there are actually two, no, three (sorry) four episodes that I never re-visit: “Charlie X”, “The Galileo Seven”, “Plato’s Stepchildren” and “The Empath”. Not because they’re badly written, but because I find them a little too unpleasant, although the scene were Spock is concerned over the doctor’s well-being in “The Empath” is very touching. Even for the good moments I can’t seem to make myself watch it — or any of those other episodes. Just find them a little sad and/or dark.
At the end in “Spock’s Brain” where Spock is rambling on and on about the civilization there (after Bones finishes reinstalling his brain), they desperately try to turn off the no longer needed remote-control to stop him from blathering on (probably not unlike some of you at this point in my post). That was classic.
Have a great weekend, guys.
kg
Re: #209. The Vulcanista
Wait — did you just say — “Cancun”?
(Sigh.) Logs off of her computer and goes downstairs to do laundry…
Re: #207. Harry
“When you tell anyone that you’re a Trekkie and they cite that episode as an example……a little something dies inside, don’t you think?”
Actually… no. It’s when I’m associated with people who act really weird/angry, dogmatic (rigid, inflexible, narrow, authoritarian) about stuff and THEN they give me the look — THAT’S when I feel kinda embarrassed to be a Trekkie. But I recover quickly and tell them “we’re not all like that”. Hopefully they believe me.
Also a lot of folks don’t understand because they don’t have that feeling about any show. I sort of feel sorry for them, not having something like that. My friend is crazy about “CSI” (in fact she put me onto it) and “Prison Break” but they do not have the incredible history that Star Trek does.
And a p.s. to my previous post (#210) — there’s a fifth episode I avoid — “Whom Gods Destroy”. Garth is a former Starfleet Captain who has gone insane…
Mental illness terrifies me. My father died from pneumonia (complications from Alzheimer’s) and I just buried my father-in-law last Saturday due to pneumonia and, yes, complications from Alzheimer’s. Talk about a predator (ST:Generations) stalking me…
CHANGE THE SUBJECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love TOS and will be watching all the funny and well-written episodes tomorrow when my company comes over and brings her TOS DVDs and just in honour of you, Harry, I’ll watch “Spock’s Brain” and lol.
ttfn (no, it means ‘ta-ta for now’).
kg
Thanks Katie…..it’s nice to know I helped someone have a laugh! :)
#212
You’re having a Trek viewing? I wanna come over to your house!
BTW for anyone who’s into this sort of thing, “Catspaw” is an excellent episode for a rousing game of Beer Trek. Everytime Sylvia says “exciting” or “sensations,” you take a shot of whatever. You *will* be trashed by the end of the episode.
See the rules for Beer Trek here: http://tinyurl.com/37udau
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
If any of you ever make it to Toronto, let’s have a Trek viewing at my place!
A good time will be had by all! :)
#215, it would be fascinating, to say the least! :)
To pull this thread back into Nimoyland, I thought I’d see what else Mr. Nimoy has done besides Star Trek that is airing within the next couple of weeks, and here’s what I came up with:
Futurama episode “Where No Fan Has Gone Before” is airing on 2/15/08 on Comedy Central at 9:00 p.m. EST.
“The Braineaters” (1958) is also airing on AMC 2/16/08 at 5:00 a.m. Don’t sneeze, or you’ll miss Nimoy as the Protector of the alien craft. Review here: http://tinyurl.com/34hmn6
“Atlantis: The Lost Empire” airs on one of the TOONDIS 2/11/08 at 5:05 p.m. Review here: http://tinyurl.com/2uzuxr
Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|
Just thought I would add my bit to this speculation about whether this film is good or not.
Nimoy and Doohan’s son said it it great – everyone else involved said it is great. The thing is….
How do they know?
It is well known that the quality of any movie cannot be decided until it is released. Movies can be made or broken by bad editing. The special effects can spoil a movie. Great scenes can be left on the cutting room floor.
For Heaven’s sake the filming has not even finished yet
Special effects/music/editing are still to be done so not even Nimoy (or JJ himself for that matter) will know how good this will turn out. Many things will certainly be out of the hands of Nimoy although I am sure HIS bit will be great.
We can only hope it will be good but NO ONE KNOWS YET.
This is usually the part where Stanky pops in and says he KNOWS it’s not going to be good! :)
With all do respect Abrams knows what hell he is doing, look at his track record, Alias,Lost, Mission Impossible,Cloverfield. He’s had lots of success and that tells me that he when it comes to doing a Star trek Movie he will deliver. Leonard Nimoy is going to be in this movie , If Nimoy thought this film was not going to be good, do any of you really think he would have given it is seal of approval and attached himself to this project. Answer me Honestly how many of you really want this film to be successful. How many of you would revel in it failure? Ill bet you there are more then a few hard core fans that would take glee in this films failure.
#219
It’s NOT that we would take glee in the film’s failure…..the thing is…we’ve been BURNT so often by TPTB who have cranked out mediocre movies with weak plotlines that we’re more than a little gun-shy and, realistically, expect the worst……..if we’re wrong, then great……and if we’re right, then……..GEE, WHAT A SHOCK (dripping in sarcasm)…….
Harry that i can understand. I am just a little sick of all the damned negativity
from fans.
Garovorkin
I honestly try to remain optomistic…..I really DO…..I want Trek to endure……….It’s just that……don’t let them lie to me again!
(clicking heels together)
“There’s no place like Trek!”
“There’s no place like Trek!”
“There’s no place like Trek!” :)
222 Ive tried clicking my heels hasn’t gotten me back to Kansas yet
Well, then let’s “kick up our heels” as we exit the theatre come December 2008 after thoroughly enjoying Abram’s STAR TREK! :)