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Review – Star Trek: The Original Series (Remastered) Season Three DVD November 17, 2008

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: DVD/Blu-ray,Review,TOS Remastered , trackback

Season Three of Remastered Star Trek The Original Series finally gets released on DVD Tuesday November 18th. Trek’s third season was a mixed bag at best, but still contained some classic episodes, plus the Remastered process added some new moments to the cash-strapped final season. The DVD set also has some new interesting brand new special features.

 

Review: Star Trek The Original Series – Season Three Remastered DVD Set

Packaging
The packaging is the same as the previous two seasons with the outer clear plastic box holding a paper sleeve for the DVD magazine and ‘collectors cards’. As noted in previous reviews, the outer box is cool, but not convenient for storing. However the inner paper sleeve is also not ideal because it is made of paper, although this season’s version does seem reinforced. There seems to have been improvements in manufacturing, this set is the first of the three to arrive without any broken pieces rattling around the box. The collectors cards, featuring artwork from the remastered episodes, are the coolest feature and are pretty sturdy.


Packaging same as Season One, nice but not durable
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Navigation and options
The navigation system is the same for the previous two seasons, with each disks introduced with a ‘transporter’ effect (with images related to that disk), and you use the transporter panel to control the show. The navigation is in widescreen, while the episodes are in the original 4:3 aspect ratio. For the most part it is easy to use, but some of the buttons (like the one to find more special features on disk 7) are had to see and so you might miss something. Each episode allows for English stereo or Spanish or French mono audio (and English, Spanish or French subtitles) and includes the original preview, but no chapter logs (a feature of the 2004 set).



Remastered Season 2 Navigation screens (click to enlarge)

The transfer and episodes
As noted in our review for season two, the DVD transfer is much better than was seen on broadcast TV. It may not be HD (Blu-ray), but these are the best available copies of the third season available. Of course you also get the episodes in their full length as well, so you can see more than what was broadcast. Although Trekkies like to obsess over the new CGI, the most impressive work may be on cleaning up the live action shots and fixing it so the colors are not nearly as washed out. You can now relive that saturated 60s experience on your giant LCD TV.

Original Season Three DVD vs. Remastered Season Three DVD
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Colors look more vibrant in live-action shots from "Enterprise Incident"

Season three may be the least respected season of Star Trek, but it still has some great episodes, like "The Enterprise Incident," "Tholian Web" and "Day of the Dove." And even some of the clunkers are now actually campy fun. Who doesn’t crack a smile when watching Spock in "Spock’s Brain" and seeing Space Lincoln in "The Savage Curtain"?

In addition, the limitations of Season Three gave the CBS TOS-R lots of great opportunities to do some interesting work for the show. By the third season of TOS, they got into the habit of re-using a lot of shots to save money. CBS had the chance to go in and replace some of those shots with ones that matched what was going on in the show, like making the Klingon ships look like Romulan ships or replacing the re-used matte paintings in "Wink of an Eye." In addition, it seems that as the project went on, the CBS learned and improved. This is especially true of how they handled the Enterprise. Even though the episodes were done out of order, most of the final months of the project were loaded with Season Three episodes.

Original Season Three DVD vs. Remastered Season Three DVD
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"Enterprise Incident" brings a Romulan warbird and paints the Klingon ships with Romulan styles


"Tholian Web" uses the same shot, but updates the Tholian ships (with a bit of ENT style)


Another great new matte painting for "Wink of an Eye"


A new angle with a new ship replaces a stock shot in "Is There in Truth no Beauty"


The new Stratos in "The Cloud Minders" is a thing of beauty


The Enterprise in "The Cloud Minders," one of the last episodes completed

 

Paradise Syndrome goes blue
Back in February of 2007 when it first aired in syndication, the remastered version of "The Paradise Syndrome" kicked off a flurry of fan fury over something as simple as an orange beam. The original episode referred to and showed a "blue light" fired by the obelisk, but for some reason it became orange in the remastered. Well, fret not for it is now blue again. 


Original blue, broadcast remastered in orange, and blue again on DVD

Special Features
Like past seasons, the remastered set the same set of excellent interviews and featurettes from the 2004 DVD set (except the "Red Shirt Logs" Easter eggs). These include a special on the third season (with 2004 interviews with the living cast members), two features on collecting, and profiles/interviews with Walter Koenig, George Takei and James Doohan. But there are new special features as well.

Like the previous two seasons there is a "Billy Blackburn’s Treasure Chest" feature, covering footage from the third season. There is a lot of fun behind the scenes info, narrated by Blackburn (who was a ubiquitous background player) on the show. You get to see how the cast and crew let their hair down and get insights into their process as well. The only bad thing about this featurette is that it is too short at only around a dozen minutes.


Great behind-the-scenes in Blackburn’s home movies
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Just like with the 2004 Season Three set, this box includes the original unaired pilot for "The Cage." Like that one there are two versions. The ‘extended’ version includes the intro and outro by Gene Roddenberry and the black and white footage is untouched but the color footage seems cleaned up. There is also a fully Remastered version with a brand new credit sequence and new CGI effects (some of which were redone after the airing of "The Menagerie" in syndication). "The Cage" looks great and we will have much more on that with a full TrekMovie review (w/ screenshots and video) coming up.


Original ‘extended’ version of "The Cage"
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Remastered "The Cage"
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Another new feature is a tribute to the late Star Trek producer, Robert Justman. This is a moving mini documentary on the man who kept the trains running on the set of TOS (who also later worked on TNG). It includes behind the scenes images and  footage, along with new interviews with Leonard Nimoy, Mike and Denise Okuda and more. It also includes the ‘last interview’ with Mr. Justman himself. This is a moving tribute to a great man and one of the better special features ever made on a Trek disk.


Justman and Nimoy in new feature on Justman
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Bottom Line
This is the third time these episodes have been released and for some that would be a triple dip and hard to justify. For fans of the third season who don’t have the 2004 set, this is a must buy. And it should be considered seriously for ‘completist’ collectors as well. For those with Blu-ray who really need their TOS-R in HD, it may be worth waiting. This set still looks pretty good with an upscaler, but will never give you that full experience. The only problem is that CBS has yet to announce anything on Blu-ray (remember all the recent Blu-ray leaks were related to the feature films, which are controlled by Paramount). Regardless, these third season episodes have never looked so good so if you can’t wait then this set is highly recommended, and the new bonus features also give you some extra value for your money. So for $40 street price, it just might be worth that extra dip.

Star Trek Remastered Season Three Arrives Tuesday November 18th
The Season Three box ships tomorrow (Tuesday) from Amazon and can be ordered for $39.99 (retail is $84.98).

 
 

The past seasons of Remastered Star Trek The Original Series are also available. The Season One DVD / HD DVD combo disk is available now for $79.99 and season two runs you $39.99.


Season One ($79.99) and Two ($39.99) available now


All three seasons together for $199

 

Comments

1. Sean4000 - November 18, 2008

Good, they went back and actually fixed a mistake. I applaud them for doing so.

2. Commodore Z - November 18, 2008

Stratos, not Scalos in “The Cloud Minders”.

3. LoyalStarTrekFan - November 18, 2008

I got the set in the mail today and I loved the remastered episode “The Cage.” They really did nice work. Overall I like these TOSR sets and have no plans to purchase them again on Blu-Ray. I would recommend these sets to anyone who hasn’t upgraded to Blu-Ray or who doesn’t want to wait for the Blu-Ray versions since standard DVDs will play in Blu-Ray players (another reason why I won’t buy them on Blu-Ray when they come out – which I’m sure will happen eventually.)

4. Imrahil - November 18, 2008

Nice review…

I won’t be buying this set. I’m waiting for Blu-Ray.

And please, when we get to that point–make the sets amaray or something so we don’t have the cardboard-fraying issue. My TOS sets are starting to get a bit dog-eared. :(

Also, when we do get to BD, I hope they have branching for original effects and remastered ones. Prolly won’t, though, so i’ll have to keep my old discs anyway.

5. Phil Bailey - November 18, 2008

When will this be out in the UK?

6. Aragorn189 - November 18, 2008

Sounds awesome. Now to earn up enought money to finish the set off. Then my next concentration is TNG. Might as well start with the characters that actually got movies. I’ll eventually get Voyager, DS9, and Enterprise, but right now, TOS is the main goal and TNG the secondary. Also, do you think they will ever remaster the special effects on TNG? I highly doubt it because those effects hold up really well. Maybe touch up the film to make the colors brighter, but that’s it.

7. Odkin - November 18, 2008

I’ll probably also wait for the Blu-Ray.

I’m glad the colors are brighter, but why is everything so over-contrasty? Everyone looks sweaty all the time, and details in the shadows are lost.

All the new exterior ship shots are always way too dark. Is that a way to cover bad CGI or something?

8. Brian - November 18, 2008

Great review, Anthony. I’ll wait for the Blu release(which I tend to think will happen next year, when there will be a deluge of Trek coming out of Paramount). After all, the whole rationale for TOS-R was so that TOS would be ready for the HD era. Kind of ironic that Trek’s oldest and newest series are the only two that will ever really glisten in HD due to the way the other series were originally mastered.

9. rastaman931 - November 18, 2008

Aragorn189 … I’ve read somewhere that TNG is actually harder to clean up and remaster than The Original Series. This has something to do with the fact that it was actually shot on video rather than on film.

10. striatic - November 18, 2008

@9 – “This has something to do with the fact that it was actually shot on video rather than on film.”

TNG was definitely not shot on video, but it may have been mastered to video, which could pose problems.

11. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - November 18, 2008

Oh no! it’s Uhura and Kirk getting it on! That’s it, I’m boycotting the new movie!

;-)

12. Jovan - November 18, 2008

Actually, it looks like Kirk and an Orion woman. (Of whom he has NEVER had sex with, by the way. In fact, I don’t recall him ever getting it on with anyone strangely coloured, or more than three times.)

Glad they fixed the mistake. I’m still on the fence about the Tholian ships. “The Cage” looks spectacular — I can’t wait to see it.

13. Jim Smith - November 18, 2008

Question – in the full colour version of THE CAGE on the Season Three DVD (not remastered) there seemed to be a cut in the wrong place. Not a cut in the sense of missing footage but in the sense of two scenes being put together wrong. Did I imagine it?

14. Jovan - November 18, 2008

By the way, some of the picture links don’t work!

15. Jim Smith - November 18, 2008

10 – TNG was shot on film, but the film was transferred to video for editing. Which means that the final edited versions of the episodes don’t exist on film, only the scenes which the episodes were edited from exist on film? Does that make sense?

So with TNG to do a proper HD transfer they’d have to re-assemble the episodes from scratch from all the material filmed for each episode. Which is a much bigger job than that which was required for TOS.

16. Cheve - November 18, 2008

10. striatic – November 18, 2008
@9 – “This has something to do with the fact that it was actually shot on video rather than on film.”

TNG was definitely not shot on video, but it may have been mastered to video, which could pose problems.

I readed somewhere that it was shot on firlm, but edited (shots, sound special effects) on video, so, they wouldn’t only have to remaster the episodes, they would have to build them again from scratch.

17. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - November 18, 2008

12 Jovan — My jest refers to the picture of Shatner and Nichelle Nichols above in the Blackburn’s home movies section, actually…. Now that the STXI trailer is out in higher resolution, it is clear Kirk is with an Orion woman.

18. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - November 18, 2008

^ Now that the STXI trailer is out in higher resolution, it is clear Kirk is with an Orion woman in the new movie.

19. G-Grasper - November 18, 2008

FOR ALL EUROPEAN VIEWERS (LIKE ME!):

THE “STAR TREK REMASTERED” – DVD-SETS WILL ARRIVE IN 2009 AFTER THE LAUNCH OF J.J. ABRAMS “STAR TREK”!!!!
THE SETS CAME WITH A DIFFERENT PACKAGE EXCLUSIVLY FOR THE EUROPEAN FANS!!!!
SOURCE: PARAMOUNT GERMANY!

BUT THE “STAR TREK ALTERNATE REALITIES”-SET (WITH “MIRROR, MIRROR” & “THE TURNABOUT INTRUDER”)´WILL ARRIVE IN DECEMBER 2008!

20. Toddk - November 18, 2008

I’m sure that there are plenty of video geeks out there who would step up to help remaster TNG. for free..c’mon now..step up! :)

21. Cheve - November 18, 2008

Waiting for Blu Ray

I also have to buy a Blu Ray player before, but I’m afraid that still may happen before we have a spanish edition of this.

22. Carl LaFong - November 18, 2008

Question: in the full color version of THE CAGE (on the remastered), does the new edition restore Malachi Throne’s vocals of the Talosian Keeper?

These were removed for obvious reasons when Throne guest starred as Commodore Jose Mendez in “The Menagerie”, but can be jarringly heard in the black & white segments of the workprint reconstruction as the Keeper’s voice changes from scene to scene. As Vic Perrin only looped Keeper’s dialogue that appears in THE MENAGERIE, for continuity’s sake, I hope they restored all of the original Throne vocals in the snazzy new remaster.

I’ve never heard Throne’s complete original vocals and it would be a hoot to finally listen to this elusive performance. I believe even the 2004 release was a patchwork of Throne and Perrin, but please correct me if this is in error.

23. Anthony Thompson - November 18, 2008

Actually, the correct price for Season 3 from Amazon is 40 bucks ($39.99).

24. Holo J - November 18, 2008

While I am pleased TOS got the remastered make over, I dont think it was completed to a high enough Standard. It was rushed due to the fact CBS digital only had a week to complete every episode.

So for that matter I will wait for the potential Blu-ray release. If they had time to correct the Paradise Syndrome’s “blue flame”, all be it a small change, then I hope they would have time to go back and add more to other episodes as well.

I just would have liked to have see a much bigger and better remaster, with real attention to detail. Maybe it unrealistic right now because it cost more than paramount are willing to put into it, but I would really love to see TOS effects get the full make over to the highest standard.

It would be great to one day see TOS with the planets sets that have backdrops with some depth and have the display screens on the bridge look functional and not looking like crinkled bits of paper with a static image on them all the time. It would be great if the Aliens got a bit of a makeover as well. I don’t mean change their look but just make them a bit less ridged and plastic looking in some cases.

See I have all the original series on DVD all ready and while I love it as it is and agree that it should always be accessible in this its original form, I would desperately love to see it really bought into the 21st century.

I don’t doubt for a second the guys working on this didn’t put all there time and effort into it and I do appreciate what has been done but I wish they could have had more time and been less reserved with what they changed. I want to see TOS the series look as good as it can be today and that’s the next copy I will buy of the series. Until then I’ll stick to my originals on DVD.

25. Stanky McFibberich - November 18, 2008

I only have the episodes on VHS, some recorded from TV and some purchased. One reason I haven’t bought the DVDs is because of the packaging. I prefer the slim plastic cases that hold one or two discs, such as in the Seinfeld sets.
This article does bring back good memories of why I came to this site in the first place: for news about Remastered. I used to look forward to the weekly updates on that project. I miss those simpler times when there were fewer people here.
For the most part, I really enjoyed Remastered due to the fact that the alterations were respectful of the original. There were some clinkers or things I would have done differently, but all-in-all it was fun.

26. Engon - November 18, 2008

#22

That IS Malachi Throne’s voice as The Keeper in “The Menagerie.”

All they did was pitch his voice up by 3 octaves while preserving the duration. [They also added some reverb].

You can undo the effect yourself with almost any sound editing software.

27. John Gill - November 18, 2008

Holy Crap! Just the two screen shots from the remastered “Cage” has sold me on it! I’m ordering it on line today, thanks for a great detailed review.

28. William Kirk - November 18, 2008

19 – Thanks for the info. Looking forward to it.

29. DJ Neelix - November 18, 2008

@24 Holo J:
“It would be great to one day see TOS with the planets sets that have backdrops with some depth and have the display screens on the bridge look functional and not looking like crinkled bits of paper with a static image on them all the time. It would be great if the Aliens got a bit of a makeover as well. I don’t mean change their look but just make them a bit less ridged and plastic looking in some cases.”

So basically, you want to change the whole show?
I think it should be appreciated for what it is. Obviously, the effects really needed to be changed because they were simply too bad, but I see no reason to tamper with much else.
Maybe we should also edit out all the sexism while where at it, because it’s not really realistic things will be like that in the 23rd century :)

I also think that effects are at a high enough standard. Cutting-edge 2006 CGI just wouldn’t have been fit along with the original film material.

30. DJ Neelix - November 18, 2008

And what’s the deal with all the complaints on this, the coolest box ever? IT WON’T BREAK OR TEAR IF YOU ARE CAREFUL! If it’s broken upon arrival then just ask for a replacement. It’s as simple as that.

31. spider1981 - November 18, 2008

I’m going to wait for the eventual Blu-ray versions of these too. As someone said above, the primary reason for remastering these was to bring them up to specs in a high definition world. To only offer them in standard definition is silly. I’ll keep on waiting, Paramount. Got my money sitting right here for you :)

32. star trackie - November 18, 2008

I’m geting this today. Like Anthony said, piped through an upscaling DVD player, these episodes never looked better. I’m really enjoying watching them for the 100th time and finally seeing the colors the way the film makers intended.

33. j w wright - November 18, 2008

i’m glad its been masted, i hated the old mast…

i still think the studio miniature look more real… they should have shot a physical model of the 1701

34. jw wright - November 18, 2008

Doh!
Something has gone wrong, the page you’re looking for can’t be found.

broken links…. let’s re-mast them as well…

35. falcon - November 18, 2008

If you listen to some of the talk coming out of the tech world, Blu-Ray may also be headed for the scrapheap. Sales of players have been disappointing, the price of discs has kept lots of people from buying, and cheap (sorry, I meant inexpensive) upscaling DVD players are allowing people to see some pretty good stuff on their HD monitors. Sony is saying that this Christmas shopping season may make or break Blu-Ray.

So don’t hold your breath on any Trek Remastered BD-DVD sets. What you’ve got may be all you’re gonna get.

36. locutus_of_borg - November 18, 2008

the europe versions in diffrent packing, thats not cool, i already have season 1 remastered in this style box.

37. Danpaine - November 18, 2008

EBay, three or four years from now, I should think. My 2004 dvd set is fine.

38. The TOS Purist aka The Purolator - November 18, 2008

I’m glad they fixed that red beam! I have no idea why they made it red…I guess they didn’t actually watch the episode. Now, if they’ll just fix the rest of the special effects shots that they messed up, I might actually buy this thing…

Why is there TNG font in the DVD menu(s)?!?

39. Cervantes - November 18, 2008

#1 Sean4000

I meant to say thanks for that excellent link you mention recently that showed footage cut in such a way so that the character of ‘older’ Kirk LIVES ON….*despite* what is shown in the ‘Generations’ Movie.!!

It may not be the ‘officially sanctioned’ version of ‘onscreen’ canon as was intended for the masses at the time…but it IS certainly ‘onscreen’ for everyone to see now, if ‘onscreen’ is the yardstick of ‘authenticity’ for people…. For those that missed this masterfully edited, and FAR better outcome, here it is again –
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=M2JeKeVynbY

Yes indeed, ‘older’ KIRK STILL LIVES! :) I sure wish a faneditor would release something like this on one of the fanedit sites….

Can you repost a contact e-mail address if you see this by the way, as I was unable to respond at the time ages ago. Thanks Sean..

Nice to see the flub of the ‘blue flame’ sorted out by the team, and I am really looking forward to seeing the new work for ‘THE CAGE’

#25 Stanky
“I miss those simpler times when there were fewer people here”…..

LOL, like how many? Two?…Three?….

40. bill hiro - November 18, 2008

“Review – Star Trek: The original Series (REMASTED)”

Does ANYBODY contributing to this site know how to use spellcheck ???

41. Holo J - November 18, 2008

29. DJ Neelix

Hi DJ Neelix

I think you have misinterpreted what I meant. I don’t mean change the designs or replaced things unnecessarily. I just mean make it the best looking it can be. I do believe you can update it all and still be respectful to what came before. This remastered project has touched on that but went a bit too far in leaving things alone, probably down to the lack of time and money the project had given to it rather than artistic choice. Id love to see more. Instead of having the Gorn just blink, how about the mouth moving as well?.

As I said before “I have all the original series on DVD all ready and while I love it as it is and agree that it should always be accessible in this its original form” I’d love to see more though and “I don’t doubt for a second the guys working on this didn’t put all there time and effort into it and I do appreciate what has been done but I wish they could have had more time and been less reserved with what they changed.”

The new digital matt paintings where the biggest success for me. They where great! I wish they had done more of those and treated all the episodes with an equal level of detail.

I thought “The wink of an eye” matt painting which replaced the original backdrop was fantastic. I know they were only meant to be changing the matt paintings but I would love to see that kind of work done to some of the sets that didn’t have a background just to give the sets more depth. Same color sky but just put some scenery in like mountains and clouds etc… The Bridge Display screen wouldn’t have to change much I mean just make them look like they did in the ENT mirror episode.

“Maybe we should also edit out all the sexism while where at it, because it’s not really realistic things will be like that in the 23rd century :)” you mean the 23rd century wont really be like that? Darn it ;)

No I don’t mean to change any of the stories or cut out any lines of dialog, for example where its implied women can’t command Starships in “Turnabout Intruder”. I liked what CBS where doing on the whole, I just wish they had taken it that bit further. The main reason I will not buy this version is because I am happy with my originals DVD’s of TOS and don’t believe enough has been changed to buy another version of TOS on Standard DVD’s.

I would definitely be interest buy a copy if it was a more complete update and it was available on Blu-ray or whatever the high Def version out at the time is. If in say 5 years time CBS said they made some more changes in a similar vein to this project but with some of the things I have mentioned above wouldn’t you be interested to see that?

42. Stanky McFibberich - November 18, 2008

re: 39
“#25 Stanky
“I miss those simpler times when there were fewer people here”…..
LOL, like how many? Two?…Three?….”

Not sure. But you could tell the players without a (giant) scorecard :)

Oh, well. All will be well when the wonderful new movie comes out. :O

43. star trackie - November 18, 2008

#40 “Does ANYBODY contributing to this site know how to use spellcheck ???”

More importantly, does anyone REALLY care? It’s not a english class in here, no grades are given. Relaxe.

44. THX-1138 - November 18, 2008

Man, Stanky, they even changed the people on the Star Trek site you “frequent”. You just can’t seem to get away from change, can you?

I am a completist so getting season three is a done deal. The first season I bought from an “electronics retail giant” and paid too much due to my weak nature in regards to Trek. The second time I pre-ordered from an “online retail giant” and waited FOREVER (seemingly) for the second season.

So for season three I am looking for a happy balance between price and convenient availability. Suggestions?

45. earthclanbootstrap - November 18, 2008

As much as I enjoyed the remastered project, even with the insane time constraints the team was put under by CBS, I won’t be touching these sets until they are released as the God-like being at the center of the galaxy intended – on Blu-ray.

#35 Falcon – you ought to check out the interesting editorial that Bill Hunt wrote over at thedigitalbits.com on the state of Blu-ray and it’s supposed demise. It’s not going away any time soon!

46. Irishtrekkie - November 18, 2008

@19 G-Grasper

Thanks for that, it does seems a bit of a wait if you ask me, but hopefully the package on the European versions will be better . Anyway cant wait to buy them.
but i think i will be waiting for the blu-ray >>:)

@42
Simpler times is right, i have forgot how much the new movie has thanken the hype out of remastered TOS, oh well after ent was canneled , and all that talk of taken a break from star trek , i am glad i will have a new movie to see and a new look to 79 of the greatest esp of any show ever made .

47. Imrahil - November 18, 2008

#43: Relaxe? :)

Yeah, I noticed the broken links in the pictures too. Hopefully that’ll get sorted.

48. Michael - November 18, 2008

What I don’t get and it pisses me off, is these remastered sets have the unremastered older teasers for next week’s episodes avail. to link to separately, not tagged onto the end of the individual episodes like the VHS had! And what really torks me off, is the TOS-R sets don’t incld. the newer televised remastered “next week” teasers included! What’s up with that? That seemed like a no-brainer..and if they put them on the Bluray discs, I may go balistic. But I’m sure Paramount will just re-port the older non-remastered featurettes a 3rd time, unremastered, leave off the the galleries, hidden eggs again. No bloopers, no NBC promos, and other assorted footage fans have had in their collector-to-collector only library for years. It will be interesting to see, if somehow CBS uses or converts the seaoson one HD/dual disc aspects/features like the Enterprise tour, game preview, alt. menu’s to Bluray format. I hope they don’t, then I’ll have something the Bluray nuts don’t/can’t ever own. *snicker*

49. Scott - November 18, 2008

I loved the remastering concept, and I think everyone working on it did yeoman’s work. The matte paintings were universally fabulous.

But I can’t help but look at those side-by-side shots up there from Enterprise Incident, Tholian Web, and Is There in Truth… and think that whoever composed those shots is really design-challenged. Many, many of the new shots are so haphazardly composed, compared to the originals. For instance, the lines of the webs in the original Tholian shot are (surely intentionally) lined up with the angle of the ship — look at the nacelles and pylons. It’s a lovely, balanced composition. In the remastered scene, the web lines are off juuust enough to look awkward.

I know, I know — Trek fans like me can be ungrateful, picky jerks. But as a professional graphic designer and illustrator, things like that just jump out at me.

Scott B. out.

50. Joe Siegler - November 18, 2008

The links to the pictures of Bob Justman & Leonard Nimoy link to the thumbnail images, not the larger ones. Thought you might want to fix that.

51. Imrahil - November 18, 2008

#48 – bitter much about losing a format war? Jesus.

–signed, a blu-ray “nut”

52. Brian - November 18, 2008

Those who think Blu Ray is not going to survive might be well served to read this:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwocentsa161.html#bdrant

As you’ll see, Blu Ray is doing quite well, in many cases it’s ahead of where DVD was at the same point in their lifespans.

I can understand folks not wanting to fork out cash for a new format, particularly during a receding economy, but to suggest that Blu Ray is going to go away anytime soon is irrational thinking that simply doesn’t jibe with the facts.

53. Stanky McFibberich - November 18, 2008

re:44. THX-1138 – November 18, 2008
“Man, Stanky, they even changed the people on the Star Trek site you “frequent”. You just can’t seem to get away from change, can you?”

The audacity!!!

54. Mugz - November 18, 2008

I’m going to wait for the (eventual) Blu-Ray release – lets hope we don’t have to wait too soon.

Great that they went back and corrected that beam colour. It didn’t bother me at all but it shows just how much they care, and listen. Bravo! I am keeping my fingers crossed that for a future Blu-Ray release they tidy up the CGI a little for the earlier episodes so – as a complete set – they all look of similar quality. Basically referring to CGI shots of the Enterprise here. With such high standards of work they really do all need to show a constant level of CGI realism/quality.

So come on Paramount/CBS – lets see some hi-def love please ;)

55. scott - November 18, 2008

I like how the box set of all 3 seasons is $199 while individually they are $79, $39 and $39 ($157 total) on amazon.com

56. montreal paul - November 18, 2008

Ummm… it’s called an “EXTRO”… not an “OUTRO”

57. Robert - November 18, 2008

WHOAH, just followed Anthony’s links and actually got presented with an option to get all three for $160.00!! Follow his link above to “Star Trek The Original Series – The Complete Second Season” and scroll down to “Frequently Bought Together”, and you should see an option to add all three TOS-R for $159.97 . SOLD!

58. Drew M - November 18, 2008

Are all the remastered DVDs on double sided discs? If so, then I’ll pass on getting these, and get the regular standard edition DVDs instead. I HATE double sided DVDs.

59. ML31 - November 18, 2008

Yet another person who is waiting to purchase on Blu-ray.

I hope CBS gets the message!

60. lt1701e - November 18, 2008

just an fyi to everyone,
bestbuy.com is having a sale this week only for all three remastered seasons. all three for 99.99 or 39.99 for the individual. trek rules

61. DJ Neelix - November 18, 2008

@58 Drew M,

No, season 1 is HD DVD on one side and DVD on the other.
Seasons 2 & 3 are single sided (dual layer), but for design coherency they have left them blank.

62. Drew M - November 18, 2008

Ok cool, the way the discs looked for Season 3 had me worried.

63. Thomas Jensen - November 18, 2008

I’ll wait for the blu-ray release. And #35 your information is inaccurate. Check out the Digital Bits here: http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#deg. Blu-ray is in no danger of evaporating anytime soon. In fact, sales are ahead of dvd at the same time in it’s development. Blu-ray will be here for quite some time to come.

64. John from Cincinnati - November 18, 2008

Again, not all live action scenes are remastered as advertised on the standard DVD editions. My HD-DVD version of season 1, every scene was beautifully remastered with higher resolutions, updated contrasts and enhanced colors. The “flip” side standard DVD season 1 and season 2 have “holes’. You could be watching a scene with Kirk and Spock talking that looks remastered, the scene cuts to another person and when it comes back, the scene is in the original dull colors with fuzziness in the picture. If someone really wants to watch the entire series in all remastered brilliance I heavily recommend waiting until all three seasons come out on Blu Ray,

65. Orb of the Emissary - November 18, 2008

I am so buying this today! Now my TOS DVDs will be complete! :-)

66. Daniel Lee - November 18, 2008

Well, they made it through the entire series and managed to keep the new remastered CGI effects looking just as crappy as when they started this project.

There isn’t a single thing they’ve fixed or changed that has been an improvement on the original. This was a waste of time and money that, had they really been passionate about doing, should have been attempted with far more painstaking care so that the new computer generated Enterprise didn’t look faker than the 1960s model, and the new mattes and effects shots didn’t stand out like a sore thumb against the 60s footage.

I actually went and saw the remastered “The Menagerie” in a movie theater. And my opinion was even further solidified having seen the new effects shots on the big screen. The people behind this project did a horrendously sloppy job. And the original versions of these episodes are the only ones that matter. These are just a money grab.

67. THX-1138 - November 18, 2008

#56

In music it’s called an outro, or a coda if you’re all fancy pants. Besides, extro sounds like that evil alien movie.

My irrelevant 2 bits.

68. David - November 18, 2008

Yes thats great news but when is season two and this one coming our in the UK??????

69. trekboi - November 18, 2008

looks great- cant wait- am still re-watching season 2 remastered!
its amazing they fixed the blue laser beam but wish they had done the same for the black & white clouds that were orange in “the Apple” & should be orange again- maybe on blue ray…

Also a special on the remastering of the season specific episodes would have been awesome- instead of just the one overall remastered special on the season one set.

Cant wait to see the new cage effects.

70. Holger - November 18, 2008

These DVD reviews cover all the ground. Thank you!

71. Jordan - November 18, 2008

The price is just too good to pass up, and I don’t care about Blu Ray enough yet anyway. Bought!

72. Andy Patterson - November 18, 2008

Half to admit I’m a bit torn about getting this. For a few reasons.

And as much of a cheat as I think it is I’d love to know if someone has posted the Blackburn movies on Youtube. The honest person in me almost hesitates to even ask that but those have got to be just too good ‘a gems to only be seen on these compillations.

73. Engon - November 18, 2008

#67

Working in the entertainment industry in Southern California for over 30 years I’ve never encountered the term “extro.” It has always been “outro” or just “conclusion.” That’s not to say “extro” is wrong or doesn’t exist, but “outro” is certainly not wrong either and certainly seems to be more common.

74. Anthony Pascale - November 18, 2008

wow, i am being nitpicked. sorry about the borken links but those were fixed in the AM, as was ‘remasted’ (that is what I get for posting at midnight)

As for ‘outro’ I stand behind that 100%…I heard the term often used with video and film editing and with commercials, etc.

RE: Prices. It appears that the price dropped as soon as the DVDs went from pre-order to available. So yes that makes the 3 set box seem unreasonable. When it was first introduced at 200 it was actually cheaper, but since then the prices on the individual have dropped. I dont know if the three pack will drop as well, I have asked CBS if they know, but that is really Amazon policy.

75. Kirky - November 18, 2008

I’m waiting for Blue Ray!

76. Rip Canon - November 18, 2008

This site is true testament that opinions are like A– holes, everybody has one.

77. eagle219406 - November 18, 2008

I am looking forward to this. I’m probably going to buy it this weekend after I get Paid.

78. RD - November 18, 2008

Engon, I hope you are kidding. No such technology existed in 1966. Just adding my voice in support of 22. Carl LaFong’s wishes. Let’s have The Cage FULLY restored audio and all.

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26. Engon – November 18, 2008
“#22

That IS Malachi Throne’s voice as The Keeper in “The Menagerie.”

All they did was pitch his voice up by 3 octaves while preserving the duration. [They also added some reverb].

You can undo the effect yourself with almost any sound editing software.”

79. Engon - November 18, 2008

#78

Throne’s voice is only pitched up 3 semi-tones and not three octaves (my mistake), so the duration reduction could have been compensated for by merely having Throne speak slowly [a less extreme version of the technique used by "Alvin and the Chipmunks" in 1958].

I don’t know if pitch-shift with tempo preservation technology existed in studio sound departments in 1966 (putting aside vocoders), but it was commerically available in analog form by the early 1970’s.

80. Cyberghost - November 18, 2008

why buy the blu ray player, when you can get the ps3 so cheaply, and don’t forget the xbox 360 blu ray, rumered to be out next year. Forget the standalone , blu ray stand alone player, go with the ps3, it does a good job of upscalling.

Just my opinion.

Ghost

81. dep1701 - November 18, 2008

One annoying CGI Goof in The Cage: On the retooled version of the Enterprise nose-over ( which continues through the bridge dome ), the rear of the saucer can be seen THROUGH the connecting dorsal, almost like it’s made of glass!

A strange mistake since the same shot ( with production Enterprise detailing ) was seen at the beginning of “The Corbomite Maneuver.

82. M33 - November 18, 2008

Nonetheless, I am grateful for this remastering. At least I don’t have to imagine what the effects COULD have been anymore. That, and the visual improvements overall was a tremendous effort. Hat’s off to ‘em!!

83. RD - November 18, 2008

Nope. The only way they had to alter pitch in the mid-sixties was by speeding up or slowing down the tape. Unfortunately when doing ADR there is no way to compensate for film synchronization with performance or variable speed adjustment. It would never fit in the actor’s mouths as well as it does.

Besides, it is common knowledge that Vic Perrin re-voiced Throne’s over-dub for the Menagerie. It’s even on his IMDB credits. Where did you get this story?

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“79. Engon – November 18, 2008
#78

Throne’s voice is only pitched up 3 semi-tones and not three octaves (my mistake), so the duration reduction could have been compensated for by merely having Throne speak slowly [a less extreme version of the technique used by “Alvin and the Chipmunks” in 1958].

I don’t know if pitch-shift with tempo preservation technology existed in studio sound departments in 1966 (putting aside vocoders), but it was commerically available in analog form by the early 1970’s.”

84. MyPetTribble - November 18, 2008

This might be a stupid question but did this remastered third season set fix the audio problem in “Spectre of the Gun”? When this episode was first broadcast on CW, there was a very noticeable echo effect in the final scene when Spock said “I wonder how mankind managed to survive.” Does anybody know if this problem was fixed?

85. dep1701 - November 18, 2008

“Besides, it is common knowledge that Vic Perrin re-voiced Throne’s over-dub for the Menagerie. It’s even on his IMDB credits. Where did you get this story?”

Sorry to disagree, but in interviews Malachi Throne himself said he re-dubbed the dialogue for the Menagerie, mainly since they needed to change some dialogue (“Captain Pike has an illusion, and you have reality…” etc…” ). The pitch of his voice was changed because he was also playing Commodore Mendez.

You can also tell it’s Throne, because in the remastered Cage, the keeper’s voice in the restored footage has been digitaly pitched up to match the color footage. If it was not Throne’s voice, the timbre of the voice still wouldn’t match. The Perrin dubbing credit is apochryphal. He did do Nomad’s voice in The Changeling, as well as playing the Halkan council leader in “Mirror Mirror”. Also, if it was Perrin, his voice would have to have been sped up also, since his normal voice does not sound that high ( just listen to Nomad as he loses his marbles at the end of the Changelong to hear how Perrin’s sped up voice sounds… it does not match the Keeper.

86. DesiluTrek - November 19, 2008

The third season remastering will help the live action in some shows — Paradise Syndrome must rock — but will expose even further the shoestring budgets of others that year. What redeems The Empath if anything is the performances — as a production they were trying to pull off a facade look similar to Spectre of the Gun, but as remastered, the threadbare sets are exposed. In a weird way, the best way to view it is like being able to watch the production of Trek.

87. Engon - November 19, 2008

83.

All I can say is that I recorded the voice of the Keeper from “The Menagerie” DVD and pitched it down 3 semi-tones using Sound Forge. It is unmistakably Malachi Throne’s voice, even though he is affecting a very soft and genteel manner of speech.

If Perrin is credited, it is a mistake, just as James Doohan has occasionally been mistakenly credited as the voice of Trelane’s father when it is clearly Bart La Rue.

88. Cervantes - November 19, 2008

#64 John from Cincinnati

Thankyou for pointing out the shoddier finish of the ‘standard’ DVD quality.

That is a great pity, as well as a huge distraction, and we can add this to the overall slip-shod treatment of this particular ‘re-mastering’ project.

Oh well, it’s worth waiting a bit longer for the Blu-rays, as far as I’m concerned, if this is the case.

89. dep1701 - November 19, 2008

“This might be a stupid question but did this remastered third season set fix the audio problem in “Spectre of the Gun”? When this episode was first broadcast on CW, there was a very noticeable echo effect in the final scene when Spock said “I wonder how mankind managed to survive.” Does anybody know if this problem was fixed?”

I just checked Spock’s line, and there was no echo effect on the DVD. I would also take this time to note there that there have been subtle sound alterations on all the new sets from the broadcast versions. Sound effects have been occasionally aded ( or muted) to better match the new effects shots. In this set, for example, the sound of weapons fire has been added to the last shot of the Romulan ship passing by the cloaked Enterprise, in “The Enterprise Incident”. During broadcast, the shot was silent ( except for music ). Also an extra “Swish” has been added to a shot of the Enterprise crossing the barrier into the void in “Is There In Truth No Beauty” ( originally it was stock footage of the ship nosing over in the barrier from “Where No Man…” and had no sound effect ).

90. dep1701 - November 19, 2008

‘Question – in the full colour version of THE CAGE on the Season Three DVD (not remastered) there seemed to be a cut in the wrong place. Not a cut in the sense of missing footage but in the sense of two scenes being put together wrong. Did I imagine it?’

if you are refering to the shot after Pike says “No, don’t help me…they can’t read through hate.” where the the lift door is seen opening with the keeper inside, you are correct. Unfortunately, it has been this way since the ‘full color’ version was released on VHS in the 80’s. The only explanation is that the original piece of film that belonged in that place ( which I believe is a shot of Susan Oliver ) is lost, and they substituted the shot of the Keeper which comes a few moments later in the show ( when everyone but pike has dozed off ). The substituted shot really makes no sense, as we just saw the keeper get into the lift, and the doors close! Why would he still be there with the doors opening?

One other small puzzling edit in this version also occured ( for the first time, I believe ) on the first third season DVD set edition of the “restored” Cage. Pike’s line “You we’re like a wild little animal” as he is discussing his attraction to Vina is missing from both editions, although it is present in the “extended” version, and in “The Menagerie”. Strange that they dropped the bit of dialogue from the “RESTORED” version, when it was clearly availble from another source.

91. star trackie - November 19, 2008

FYI- Online Best Buy has all 3 seasons on sale for $39 ea. or 3 for $100. These are the remastered sets. Great deal.

92. jp - November 19, 2008

What would be the pont of waiting for BluRay on these sets? The footage wasn’t done in HD, the sound won’t get any better either. The footage will not get any cleaner or better to look at at a higher res – it’s still being taken from a low res source. For a massive number of films and TV shows there seems to be absolutely no point buying the BluRay versions as there is no difference in quality. Anything made in the last decade is a different story for films especially but I actually think it’s madness waiting for a BluRay version of this.

93. Andy Patterson - November 19, 2008

85

I would tend to agree with you that it is still Malachi Throne’s voice. (I’ve listend to that voice for years. “Oh look Al. We’re not asking you to spy. We’re just asking you to steal” – *It Takes a Thief) I watched it just the other day and noticed his very precise way of enunciating certain words. All in all a very good job of dubbing in my opinion. And the actresses who played the Talosians were a brilliant idea. It makes sense that a superior race would have highly evolved craniums and small frames like those woman had. A very effective episode – I was always thought.

94. Engon - November 19, 2008

92.

The Original Series was shot on 35mm film – a very hi-def source capable of resolutions much greater than HD’s 1080×1920.

95. Xindi1985 - November 19, 2008

Is there any chance for a “THE CAGE” REMASTERED FX-REEL????

96. Dom - November 19, 2008

25. Stanky said ‘This article does bring back good memories of why I came to this site in the first place: for news about Remastered. I used to look forward to the weekly updates on that project. I miss those simpler times when there were fewer people here.’

Yeah, I’m with you pal! :)

97. Sean4000 - November 19, 2008

Cervantes,

I am glad you remember me and for the most part I think we are on the same page regarding the TOS-R effort. If you would like to talk FX or anything, I’m a the y place, digianswrs.

Take care,
Sean Burns
“Sean4000″
CTO, LucidSFX

98. RD - November 19, 2008

Was really hoping the “Cage” would finally air in connection with the release of this DVD.

I wonder if they are holding off on broadcasting the Cage for the build-up to the May XI film.

99. WG - November 20, 2008

I didn’t get any of the sets yet, so I think I got a steal. Bestbuy has all 3 sets online only for $99.99 as a package. The season 1 is backordered, but that’s one heck of a deal, and I’m willing to wait for that one.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=category&id=pcmcat166600050066

100. Orb of the Emissary - November 20, 2008

#30- I know! If you’re just careful, then the set will last quite a while! My season 3 TOS-R came broken and the set would not shut all the way, so I just exchanged it for a good set and I had no problem whatsoever. :-)

101. By The Book - November 23, 2008

I vote that the Keeper’s voice is Malachi Throne’s pitched up.

I offered to be this site’s proofreader a long time ago (when the spelling errors were even worse and more frequent), but they never got back to me.

The problem with a remastering project like this is that it will never be perfect. Once you change a few things, people can begin to imagine what else can be changed or what shouldn’t have been changed. Personally, I’d like to see those tiny screens on the tricorders showing data of some sort… especially when the characters seem to be getting information from them. At any rate, we all agree this project deserved better than it got. I’m sure it won’t be long before we see fan edits remasterings.

It is a shame that these sets are only being released in standard definition. I’m sure a hi-def format will come out soon enough, but really, in the long run I think all physical media is out. We’ll just be downloading everything before you know it.

102. Tony - November 23, 2008

I have all three remastered TOS box sets, and applaud the find job on all they did. If I had one regret, it’s that they just didn’t take it far enough! So many missed opportunities to broaden the scope of the visuals. For example:

In “Court Martial”, a quick exterior cutaway of Enterprise rising out of the planet’s atmosphere.

In “The Naked Time”, a view of Enterprise slowly descending into the planet’s atmosphere

In “The Corbomite Maneuver” and “The Lights of Zetar”, exterior views of Enterprise attempting to escape the cube/lights

“The Ultimate Computer” could have benefited from a few closeups of Enterprise phaser beams slicing into the other starship’s hulls

Again, this is just Monday morning quarterbacking, and overall I”m very happy with the entire remastering project and wish to offer congratulations. I suspect the producer’s timid approach about changes had a lot to do with not wanting to enrage fans.

103. Engon - November 26, 2008

Not to beat a dead horse, but there is a way that they could have pitched-up Malachi Throne’s voice and adjusted, if not exactly preserved, the duration.

The three semitone increase in the pitch of Throne’s voice amounts to a 20% decrease in its duration. I would bet that the audio engineer just sped the tape up by 20% and had no idea how many semitones that worked out to (3 semitones +16 cents, to be precise).

Anyway, the higher-pitched and faster voice would then drift out of sync and overtake the actresses’ lip movements during long passages of dialog.

But, by cutting the magnetic film soundtrack, you could re-sync the dialog every few words or so using available 1960’s technology. It would be a time consuming process, but it could have been done. They would’ve needed to re-sync at least a couple of times for each second of dialog.

If you listen the Keeper’s voice, the flow is natural when he/she is using telepathy and lip-sync is not an issue. However, when the Keeper’s lips move, the voice is often much more unnatural and halting, as you would expect if this kind of adjustment had been made. In addition, if you examine the scenes during the telepathy sequences, the visuals of the Keeper tend to run on an odd bit longer than his/her dialog, which is also what you would expect with a 20% increase in speed of the dialog.

Anyway, that’s my theory.

104. jon witchell - November 29, 2008

#103, i’m inclined to agree with you. I’m convinced it’s still Malachi Throne, and used software to check and lowered in pitch, it definitley sounds like him. I also agree that the visuals of the Keeper when telepathic, are subtly longer, whilst dialogue perfectly smooth. The rigidity of the voice is most notable during the scene where the Keeper talks of the “vial containing a nourishing protein complex”. I used to think this rigidity was due to being the first time he/she actually spoke (and thus not used to speaking after being telepathic with the rest of his/her race), however I can fully see what you mean now, and the mystery as to the altered voice may have been solved thanks to you!

Jon

105. JimJ - November 30, 2008

What amazes me is….there were 100’s of people on here that FLIPPED because CBS-D made the “flame” red instead of blue in “The Paradise Syndrome”. Now that it’s fixed, where are these 100 people that complained? “Ya might at least say, thank ya!”

106. Sean4000 - November 30, 2008

lol, true. I did. Post #1. :)

107. Captain Janks - December 3, 2008

I think season three is the best season of them all. I own the 2004 versions of seasons 1 & 2, but I WAITED for the release of season 3 on DVD, because I wanted the new CGI remastered version of season 3. I bought it last night at 6:00 pm, and took off of work at the gas station today to watch the whole damn thing. And watch the whole damn thing I did. I am getting ready to watch my favorite episodes of the package now, which will include “Day Of The Dove”, “Paradise Syndrome”, and of course, my favorite episode of season 3, “Turnabout Intruder”!

108. JimJ - December 4, 2008

#106-Yes, you did, but where is everyone else who whined like babies? lol

109. Sean4000 - December 4, 2008

The nexus? lol. IDK.

I was so disappointed in this effort. I felt it really should have been given a bigger budget and a better team.

110. Slitheen - February 20, 2009

#92 – you are oh so wrong, my friend. Star Trek was shot on 35mm film…. which has ALWAYS had a resolution over twice that of Blu-Ray. From these masters you can rescan at SD, present HD standards and even higher HD standards than exist now. In effect, a certain level of DOWNSCALING is performed to put it on Blu-Ray. The TOS masters will one day have even a better, higher resolution home HD format than your fancy pants ‘Blu-Ray’ garnered from them. God, every generation thinks they invented the wheel….huh?

So basically, 35mm has always been HD….it’s just the display technology that has had to catch up. Believe it or not, the problem will arise when they attempt to remaster all the MODERN Star Trek incarnations in HD….as it was all edited onto video (but shot on film so I’m told), and the special FX were all shot on video, so they would have to be completely built from scratch. So, ironic as it may seem, TOS will be the only TV Trek incarnation to shine in HD for some time (maybe forever if the others are too costly).

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