STO Update: Check Out The Federation’s Next Big Ship December 25, 2008
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Cryptic Studios has a Christmas presents today for fans of the upcoming Star Trek Online massive multiplayer game. They have a new feature on their official site, introducing us to the first of the new ships for the game. The breakdown of the Federation Starship NX-91001, a successor to the Sovereign class (the USS Enterprise E type) is just full of fun Treknobabble. Full details below.
NX-91001 – Exploration vessel – Commissioned: 2409
(from StarTrekOnline.com)
A starship designed to carry Federation influence throughout the Alpha Quadrant and beyond, the NX-91001 is one of the first multi-role starship designs since the Sovereign class was commissioned in the early 2370s. Able to function as a deep-space explorer with extensive sensors and laboratory facilities for scientific research, the NX-91001 also is outfitted as a heavy cruiser armed with some of the latest in Starfleet weapons technology for deployment in hostile areas.
The NX-91001 contains the best of the new technologies developed in the past 40 years. Bioneural circuitry mimics organic neurons, speeding data functions and improving computer performance. An advanced sensor pod can be operated from the bridge or manned directly for intense sweeps, and includes telemetric observation VISOR technology to allow a science officer to interface directly with data transmitted by a robotic exo-probe.
A holoemitter array system allows Emergency Medical and Emergency Command Holograms to operate throughout the ship when needed, and the ship is equipped with a Class 10 warp drive for normal operation and an advanced hyper impulse drive for sublight operation. The Class 10 warp drive is equipped with an advanced quantum sublimating theta-matrix compositor which recrystalizes the ship’s dilithium into a much more stable form than earlier models. This allows the NX-91001 to go much longer distances at high warp velocities before needing to replace the crystals.
Defensive systems of this starship are based on significant advances in Federation technology. The starship features an ablative tetraburnium alloy hull, which allows it to withstand greater amounts of heat and pressure than any previous design, and regenerative shields on the NX-91001 can adapt to enemy weapons fire during a battle. The ship also carries a full suite of offensive weapons, including 16 Type XIV phaser arrays, eight torpedo launchers and several other weapons. Note: Because of the recent conflicts, the complete weapons configuration of the NX-91001 is classified.
Previously released STO screenshot, appears to be the NX-91001
NX-91001 Specifications
Dimensions:
- Overall Length: 692 meters
- Overall Draft: 92 meters
- Overall Beam: 253 meters
- Displacement: 3,200,000 metric tons
Propulsion System:
- Class 10 Warp Drive
- Hyper Impulse Drive
Defensive Systems:
- Ablative Tetraburnium Alloy Hull
- Regenerative Shielding
Embarked Craft (Typical):
- 3 Shuttle Bays
- 10 Shuttlecraft (various classes)
- 10 Shuttlepods (various classes)
Velocity:
- Cruising: Warp Factor 8
- Maximum: Warp Factor 9.985
Computer Systems:
- Holoemitter Trans-Deck Array System
- Holographic Consoles and Astrometric Laboratories
- Bioneural Circuitry
Offensive Systems:
- 16 Type XIV Phaser Arrays
- 4 Forward and 4 Aft Torpedo Launchers (Payloads Classified)
- Additional Weapons Classified
The USS Enterprise E, a Sovereign Class ship, is the clear precursor to the NX-91001
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Wow, so after 30 years of progress and development, the best Starfleet can come up with is a pimped Sovereign. Please…
Nice if Cyptic Studios put in even an ounce of creativity into ship design
I’m not entirely sure that I am a fun of such drastically curved nacelle pylons, but I do like the ship overall. I am very much looking forward to this new game. Oh, and by the way, as of right now, the first picture you have of the ship actually links to that behind the scenes picture of Leonard Nimoy.
Looks awesome– love the touch of the connection between the nacelles.
awesome!
sweet
Regenerative shielding. I like it.
Awful. Bloody awful.
C’mon… let’s bring back the refitted Enterprise D from All Good Things… now that ship was bad ass and would whip the Enterprise E in a seconds!
The ship looks nice, but I agree with Tanky, In 30 years, (more time that since the begining of TNG to Nemesis (2364-2379)) Starfleet’s more advanced ship is just a refit Sovereign, they shoud have a more advanced ship design by now.
On a diferent coment, I think Cryptic is making the game more comercial than Perpetual, and in some things they seemed lost, like, for example, in ship design, Perpetual’s new Federation ships definitevely look post-nemesis, I can’t say the same about Cryptic’s designs.
Sorry for the bad english.
1.
Completely agreed. For what this this, this is totally lame.
Why don’t they refit an Enterprise-A while they are at it. I’ll say it again… lame.
Are you kiddin’ me. We’ve got J.J. trying to bring trek back, and then these guys come up with this. THIS kind of stuff makes people hate Star Trek. All of this treknobabble and crap. It looks so stupid. I could have come up with something better during French class!
P.S. (IMHOP) Whoever designed this needs to find a different profession. I’m sorry if it sounds rude, but come on. LAME.
This is the kind of stuff that makes the Star Trek universe so detached from our own. I’m mean really, can anyone see this as being our future? Maybe a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.
On another note, the numbering system for starships is getting a bit ridiculous!
91001? How about starting over at some point, sheesh!
Uggh, what an ugly kitbash, is this thing meant to be a joke??
Putting the concerns over the ship’s design aside for a while, what kind of role is this ship going to serve in game? If it’s supposed to be a prototype, then there should only be a couple of them in the whole universe. But then there’s the issue of what kind of craft players are supposed to aspire to command when they accumulate enough, well, Perpetual called it “Prestige”, I’m not sure if Cryptic’s going to follow through with that concept.
I think its cool. All you noisy negativists are just that. Negative.
Holographic consoles and astrometrics. Holo-Crewmembers on every deck.
Regenerative shielding.
How cool is this?
And the Sovereign-Class is my favorite ship, It’s awesome I will be able to play something similar to it in STO.
Is it me…
…or are the overly nit-picky comments getting a bit old ?
Not just on this post, but others as well.
A message ot the compulsive cannonistas, and obsessive technophiles:
Relax your sphincters and exhale, already !
Take things for what they are and enjoy the ride.
@19
It’s not just you…
I find if I skip the longest messages, it’s less negative.
Canonistas seem to have the most to say.
A message to the critics of compulsive cannonistas and obsessive technophiles:
Being a fan does not mean jumping on the bandwagon and praising everything that gets the Star Trek label slapped on it. Being a fan doesn’t mean turning off your brain and lapping up whatever is put in front of you.
I couldn’t care less about this game as I have no intention of ever playing it, but its obvious to anybody that the Federation’s Next Big Ship is just a barely futzed with Enterprise-E. There’s no crime in saying that here, there, or anywhere.
Awesome!
To quote Luke Skywalker: “What a piece of junk!”
If the ships lack creativity, what can we expect from the game?
A new millenium deserves a new nomenclature… an NX designation for the prototype, okay… but when this thing goes online, perhaps a 25th century change to something like NCC-C101?
Not awful, just unimaginative. I suppose the constraints of making it look like a Federation Starship are well in place, but it seems so very Sovereign…
I’m holding out for a TOS or even TOS Movie MMORPG. Even something TNG or DS9 oriented- I want to play in the Trek universe, not an interpretation of a possible future. JMHO… If people enjoy it, I mean them no ill will.
love it
bashers stop crying and do better yourself if you think you have the know how to design a great mmorpg do it!!! I will give it a shot but you wnt be designing one anytime soon will you because you cant
It’s really good. Overcritcism never gets you anywhere.
Looks great! I hope the game has good “shoot ‘em up” potential.
Warcrap is sadly lacking in this area. That reminds me, I gotta go cancel that membership.
I like this ship! I’m so glad that all of the naysayers won’t be online to enjoy it!
21:
Sorry you got coal in your stocking.
Say hi to Scrooge
#19: It isn’t just you…
anybody want some swiss cheese and crackers with all this whine?
Not a good ship. I’m going to try and forget I ever saw it.
Movie looking good.
Game looking bad.
They need an Xbox 360\PS3 game based on the movie.
One that doesn’t suck.
Actually, I’m considered quite an optimist. Every single thing about the new movie looks incredibly awesome and I don’t give a damn about whether it violates canon. But when something is ugly, its ugly. Whether it has super-duper ultra enhanced multi-layered regenerative shielding or not and whether it has quasi superlative inter-galactic transporter units and a poly-numerical number of holo emitters doesn’t mean a damn thing to me. If this were Star Wars, that would be one thing, but this is Star Trek. You know, that sci-fi cowboy space opera created by Gene Rodenberry. The one where relationships and moral significance matters more than how many weapon systems and shield generators there are on a ship. And to those people that obsess over this stuff: shut off your computer, put on a tie, and go out of the house and get a life and rethink what, in the end, actually matters in life. When it comes to movies and television, I like getting a good story, a good laugh, some touching character moments, and some good action every now and then. Granted, this is all just my opinion, so take it as you will.
And I Think I’ve about exhausted this. I’ve made my point. I’m done. You can disagree with me if you want. Hell, if everyone thought the same way, the world would be a pretty boring place.
Totally uninspired
I hate the thingy across the two nacelles. Its not really cannon so its nothing to get stemmed up about.
34 – I agree with you!
It’s a sloppy design, right down to the fact that the image they’ve given us was flipped over in Photoshop and they never bothered covering their tracks. That’s just me being an obsessive graphic designer type though.
This ship manages to be derivative of the newest AND the oldest of designs that we’ve seen on the screens in the Star Trek universe – the catwalk between the nacelles? What possible point is in that? If it’s supposed to be manned, and the warp drive is as powerful as is always alluded to in the series, then you’re going to be space-dust by the time you get onto the thing. And it looks like it was lifted straight from the NX-01. It’s the only major discernible difference from this design and the Sovereign class apart from a speed-hole here and a slight curve there. They’ve even put WINGS at the rear tip of the nacelles! And have simultaneously managed to take away the elegance of the Sovereign-class which is clear when you scroll down and see the image on this article.
I’ve seen worse efforts. But it gets a D from me. And whoever talked about designing their own MMPORG – why? We’re the end-user of THIS particular product. We’re the target audience. It’s within our rights to be critical so we can get the very best game our money’s going to be pumped into. If you’re happy to spend your dollars/pounds/euro/whatever on a steaming pile of goat-excrement, then feel free. I’m not going to chastise YOU for it! Or what you do with it.
19, 20, 30, 31 … Agreed. The insipid whining is definitely getting old.
It’s just symptomatic of the flaw behind this whole MMO project. Placing it beyond any known Trek time period, introducing entire new ship classes, new worlds, new everything, is just fundamentally dumb.
Is the hundred or so years spanning the known Trek universe, and all the worlds and races it includes, not a big enough sandbox? They have to invent their own future universe and bring all the controversy and nitpicking and criticism that comes with making stuff up and pretending it’s Trek?
I personally think that moving beyond the TOS timeline was even a mistake. It’s a big galaxy with a lot of ships. Why waste time making stuff up from scratch instead of just learning the known rules?
I think these people are stuck in a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” position when it comes to hardcores and canonistas. If they stick to variations on established designs, they’ll get slammed for “no creativity.” If they venture out and really try to define a new visual era for their period, they’ll get slammed for making something unfamiliar and out-there that doesn’t feel like established Star Trek.
In fact, given the nature of some segments of fandom, I think they’re really doomed to a mix of both responses no matter where they go; all they can do is shift the ratio a bit :)
Oh, and this is the first thing involved with Star Trek that I have ever complained about, so no one can tell me that I complain and whine too much.
Hate to be another nitpicker, but yeah, really? This is the desing they come up with? It’s just a slighly suped up Enterprise E. Which, the E is a beautiful ship, don’t get me wrong, but seems like they could have done without this. I do like some of the other ones they have. The one’s with part of the hull missing in the saucer is kinda weird looking, but I like them.
Wow, it’s a kitbash. Oh well, it’s also a GAME.
I’ll live. And so will you!
lol
Are we Trekkies ever happy? (Looking up at above posts) I guess not.
Both sides make good points
On one hand it is likely that Starfleet would have a different flagship class than the Sovereign class. The Sovereign class would probably still be around but it wouldn’t be the flagship class anymore. Modified of otherwise.
On the other hand it is a game, meant to be fun. It is not a movie or show and YOU are the character, the moments are your moments. The ship is obviously designed similarly to the Sovereign so fans have a familiar feeling ship. It is a game.
As for the “technobabble,” have you ever been around real scientists? I have and that’s how they talk. Science is what has brought us all the technology we have and it will bring us all the technology we will have. In short, science will shape the future. So yes, I can see Star Trek as our future. There is a lot more to Star Trek than “technobabble” and that is not the primary reason people give for not liking Star Trek. Further, the popular game “Mass Effect” has a lot of technobabble in it on how ships and other things work in that universe and it is, as I said above, a popular video game. However, the technobabble is in short doses and the story does not rely it. I’m sure STO won’t either.
One final note: let’s all remember that we are all Star Trek fans and that we can have different points of view without name-calling or insults. Enough is enough.
It’s not designing, it’s kitbashing :(
LOL
They must not value good design at the Paramount lot anymore. And/or not willing to pay for it.
Man, you guys hate everything these days.
I love the Sovereign class — it’s my favorite, actually — but that ship is really ugly. The Sovereign class is streamlined, this is janky.
Always love the ships. But, I never quite got the differentiation. Even the dinky ones seem to have all the same armaments and scientific gadgets. Hell, in Voyage, Chakotay uses a shuttle’s phasers to knock out Voyager’s main power.
No matter… I would be happy with just about any Federation ship in Trek (or a cool cool Rommie Warbird if they reprogram the food dispensors to include Italian.)
To all who say: “it’s only a kitbashed Sovereign”, I think I might have found a logical reason why this Sovereign-class look-a-like is in here. Ofcourse Cryptic wants the same kind of layout and interface for each Starfleet ship. So there won’t be any ships of a previous era (for example an Excelsior with those old LCARS “okudagrams”). But they want the Sovereign in. So this could be a Sovereign II, just like the updated Excelsiors seen in DS9, etc.
So this will probably not be the finest thing Starfleet has to offer. Just a bad choice of Cryptic to show us a kitbash/old ship instead of one of the new ships. There a much better ones in some of their screenshots.
Yikes! I see the word “kitbash” has come up a few times … that about sums it up.
While never a huge fan of the Sovereign class to begin with, this future mod of the Enterprise-E looks just dreadful. I just hope there’s a lot of variety to choose from in the game. If this is the best they can tease us with, I’m worried.
I mean, if they’re going to plagiarize a design, at least plagiarize the Enterprise-J from Star Trek: Enterprise. At least that would be vaguely original (sufficiently obscure to appear original).
“Hey we need a new Enterprise for this game thingy…”
“oh man…*yawns*…ohhhh…*sighs..then tuts*…look wheres the last one…ok the Enterprise E…right just put a pylon thingy across the nacells and blind em with treknobabble – They’ll buy it…..right i’m off on an early lunch – anyone want me to bring them back a donut?”
“those old LCARS “okudagrams””
Those “LCARS Okudagrams” gave Star Trek ships a unique computer interface that Trek was sorely lacking until TNG debuted. They did a great job. You’ll notice that the STO website uses an LCARS design. I don’t know why it has become popular to bash everything Trek in the 90s nowadays but that was some of the best Trek ever created with many stories being just as relevant today as they were then. The 90s was the best time to be a Trekkie and I hope that this next film will make the next decade that we are fast approaching an even better time to be a Trekkie.
The Sovereign Class is my favorite starship of all time in Trek history. I’m glad I’ll be able to play around with it in STO. I’m sure that there will be plenty of other ships. One thing I noticed in the description of the ship is that it has the same number of Phaser arrays and Torpedo launchers as the ENT-E in Nemesis (although the Phasers are Type XII in Nemesis) so it really does seem to be an upgraded Sovereign Class. Again, I’m sure there will be weaker and stronger ships in the game. I’m sure that this ship was shown first in order to start by showing fans something familiar and then move into the unfamiliar. Patience is a virtue. Trekkies of all people should know this.
Excellent. But it is very similar to the Enterprise E.
53 – By referring to “those old LCARS Okudagrams”, I don’t see where anyone was bashing. I think the OP was referring to the old LCARS graphics relative to the ones seen on TNG – the blue and green interface on the latter films as opposed to the pastel-coloured versions on TNG and beyond.
In terms of the technobabble debate: I think Trek pre-Gene’s death (and up until the end of the Next Generation) had adequately balanced the technobabble. In fact, they went as far as parodying it somewhat in the TNG episode “Rascals” (and yes I had to look up the name – mustn’t be a true fan) where Riker uses technobabble to baffle the Ferengi. In Voyager, especially, the show was ruined by the use of technobabble and the ability to use that in order to resolve the stories. It had become less about what the humans were capable of and more about what the technology could do. There was never anything an inverse tachyon pulse couldn’t fix. And it’s this reliance on TOO much technobabble that contributed to the dwindling appeal of Star Trek on a mass audience. So yes, while I agree that some is needed, having too much in this game is going to piss some people off.
#1
very well said
Emergency Command Holograms? When would they kick in? When every officer dies? Or just the Captain and First? I’m sure the crew will be thrilled to find a hologram suddenly blinking into existence and telling them what to do! I’m sure they’ll jump right in and do whatever Captain Circuit Board says in a crisis! Not…
There treating the game like a cartoon. No e-realism not a hint.
Crap!
I’m indifferent to this ship design. This one on the other hand is pretty cool:
http://www.mmofiles.nl/sto/screenshots/screenshot23a.jpg
http://www.mmofiles.nl/sto/screenshots/screenshot24a.jpg
http://www.mmofiles.nl/sto/screenshots/screenshot25a.jpg
http://www.mmozone.nl/content/view/1446/85/
This “ship” looks terrible. An idealess modification of an impressive design. There are much better fanmade-ships.
Jeez, when did people start not WANTING to enjoy anything any more? Some people these days act like not anything at all can give them any pleasure or fun any more. It’s as if they’d rather complain because it gives them some sort of moral high ground than put one erg of effort into actually enjoying life.
Frankly, I don’t know about you loty, but I’d far rather be happy than right,
As far as I was aware, Gene Roddenberry’s intent was to create something to open minds to new possibilities and acceptance of others- to boldly go where no brain has gone before. If so, then why are the fans these days so rigid, so inflexible, so ‘You can’t do this, can’t do that, if you do one thing wrong, even a tiny detail about it, then no matter how good it is I won’t… no, I WILL watch it, just so I can moan about it’.
Get over yourselves! This is Star Trek, for god’s sake. It wasn’t written down by the son of God, or the Prophet Mohammed, or Prince Siddharta Gautama. it was a bloke trying to entertain- and educate, and to some ways enlighten- us.
Enlighten? Looks like he failed. If anything, he’s made us more fractured, more bitter than anything. And as far as I’m concerned, it sure as heck ain’t Desilu, Paramount or CBS’s fault.
You are not right.I am not right. Nobody is right. Remember that. Might get you a better grip on reality.
The worst part is, I’ll probably be responded to by ‘you misspelled a word, your argument sucks’.
This is one ugly ship!
Uninspiring but yeah, looks nice for what it is.
what does the Enterprise looks like in this era? Is it still in service..is their an F?
cheers,
iam really looking forward to this game
but i agree to those people who think
theres something wrong.
I mean look at us and our technology evolved the last
30 years and we are just one species.
Thats Starfleet for god sakes!
over a hundred species developing 30 Years and what we
get?
An improved Sovereign? uhm……maybe the Federation fell asleep for 29 years lol?
I agree with the comments above about the excessive nit picky commentary but I would have expected a little more difference in the primary hull design. At the end of the day however it makes little difference, I intend to check out STO when it’s released….
I’ll admit i’m a bit underwhelmed by this design. I guess it’s plausible enough as a Sovereign class refit though even then they should’ve changed the primary hull more. Except for that dark stripe down the middle it looks the SAME.
Then again it’s only a game. At least it doesn’t look as odd or out of place as the Abramsprise.
The design seems ok but not for a ship 30 years in the TNG future. This is similar to to the NCC-1701 refit and this is what I would imagine the Enterprise-E looking like after a refit.
#65 StalwartUK, you bet me to it!
At least it isn’t a ripoff of the Millennium Falcon, right? (Cue George Takei voice) Oh my!
That’s incredibly unimaginative!
Boring.
maybe starfleets funding got cut so they just had to make do and mend or the Enterprise designers thought why change a good thing
either that or the designer of this Star Trek Online just couldnt be arsed to come up with a new design…
maybe he started out with good intentions but left it till the last minute to design something…panicked..so just put that thing on the nacells and some wings and handed it in and hoped no one would notice..
maybe right now hes being called into his bosses office…..
I hate this ship! It’s not exciting!
The ginormous big gun from the future enterprise (ALL GOOD THINGS) should have been added as well as at least 50 combat fighters and a huge fighter/shuttle bay on the underside resembling on of the bays from the original Battlestar Galactica. Then on each side of the main fuselage 2 detachable smaller vessels with alot of extra firepower (sort of like the Prometheus on Voyager). They need to kick up next Enterprise a couple of notches – basically a huge kick ass battle wagon on steroids. Toss in the Federation cloak too – ability to hide inside planets would be a cool feature, but add a safety feature that should the cloak fail the ship would at least be inside a hollowed out sphere within the planet so repairs could be made.
meh meh and meh
Yak.
Star Trek is as much about technology as Caddyshack is. The more complicated the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain.
This ship is uninspired, for sure, and the guys at Cryptic seem to be making a great effort to show off how cool the tech is. I guess we’ll all need Physics degrees to play this game. Up arrow is fast, down arrow is slow. Left is left and Right is right. Space bar to fire. Period. If it gets more complex than that, good luck, guys.
This is a joke right!?
That is the laziest design I have ever seen…
If the guys from cryptic want to inspire they should visit bcfiles.com
For example:
This is a ship designet by DJ Curtis. It is called Century class.
And the successor of Enterprise – E is ship of this class the Enterprise – F
And it looks great…
http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/screenshots/File/82748/1
#76 pizi
Very cool rendition of the Enterprise-F. I actually like that design better than the current E model. Thanks for the link!
76 – That looks pretty cool.. – esp this shot:
http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/screenshots/File/82748/4
I like the idea that Starfleet technology would progress until their ships are pretty much flying saucers…
Sorry to be repetitive, but its a big E with minor tweaks. Its like when they tweaked B for the beginning of Generations. This ship is nothing new, creative or exciting.
Wow. SO glad that Ron Moore got away from all of the techno-babble when he re-made Galactica. It’s so irrelivant.
FIRST – this is a game and isn’t considered cannon by any stretch of the imagination.
SECOND – for the cannon-files – THERE’S NO SUCH THING AS A STARSHIP EXCEPT IN YOUR IMAGINATION!
THIRD – All the above comments said, I am disappointed that it is simply a kit bash of the Sovereign-class ship design and I do agree with a lot of the comments made above. Why can’t they set the game in the TNG era? They can still make up worlds of their own. Trek games have done that for years. The only thing I can think of is that it may have been a legal issue with the particular license they obtained from Paramount.
FOURTH – Wow… I don’t think it’s possible to make everyone happy. We all have our opinions on what Trek is, what it should be, how it should look, etc. And every has a right to their opinion. Again, NONE OF IT IS REAL so there’s not a huge reason to get all bent out of shape over it. If it’s a fun game to play (like Armada 1), then it’s fun. If it sucks (like Armada 2) then don’t play it.
#76 pizi!
Nice find! That ship is more like it!
79 – yeah but they had to go with the ‘tweaked’ Excelsior design as the gold model was in the Ent D meeting room
and talking of Enterprise designs – the Ent A couldve done with a few tweaks to differeciate it abit from the original…especially since the NCC 1701 was due to be decommisioned (so was abit of an old design?)
I’m not usually one to complain, but i’m really really disappointed. They could have done more with this ship….anyone could have done more. IT’S A LAZILY MODIFIED SOVEREIGN!! :(
Ive always been nervous when a new gaming company takes the Star Trek license but they have all turned out okay. For example, i grew up playing star trek games like Starfleet academy, klingon academy, starfleet command and even New Worlds (im probably one of the few who thought this game was cool) under “Interplay” and those were awesome. Then Uh oh “Activision” took the helm and went on to create Star Trek: Bridge Commander, by far the best Star Trek game of all time thus far. So who knows, this one ship Cryptic designed may suck, but better things are most likely yet to come.
Hey guys, how about a game where you are Kirk, and you are in command of the original Enterprise, and you are all stuck in 1966. How about that?
Canon? What canon? You mean the make-believe canon of a make-believe world where make-believe spaceships fly around a make-believe galaxy and fight make-believe Klingons? How disconnected are some of you that you get bent out of shape with a little make-believe techno-babble about a make-believe Enterprise. Get a grip, it’s all for fun.
While I’m pissed about some of your immaturity, it’s a game. Matter of fact, it’s a game about Star Trek. How about being thankful someone is carrying the mantle and doing their best to bring the Star Trek world to a bigger audience. Is it your perfect imaginary Enterprise? No. Will it ever be? Not a chance if they have to cater to some of the more insanely picky of you.
I’ve been posting here a while now and have bit my tongue on more than a few occasions, but man, bashing a piece of computer art of an imaginary spaceship in a game that is being created for your entertainment? Are you nuts? Do you have so little to do with yourselves or your time?
If any of you think you can do a better job that Cryptic can, be my guest. Show them how a game is supposed to be written. Otherwise, instead of bashing the thing, just don’t play.
83 “Do you have so little to do with yourselves or your time?”
fraid so
Um, that’s very unfortunate. This “new” ship is basically a Sovereign-class model with an extra structure linking the nacelles together. WTF?
Sorry, but the Enterprise E is way cooler. This is nothing more than a kit bash. It is visually unattractive.
Sometimes, less really is more!
I had high hopes for STO in terms of storyline, and that’s the only thing that kept me interested. That ship is damn ugly, an affront to the Sovereign that it mutated from. Very uncreative and frankly, it strongly reminds me of the overpowered silly looking designs that your average 13 year old fanboy comes up with. Very disappointed.
Don’t hate me for being negative, but unless truth be told it’ll never change.
OMG that Enterprise – NCC – 1701- F is hot !
Sexy Baby – Cryptic wake up and see for yourself
:-)
I think the Enterprise-F renditions make it look just like an over-sized Voyager. Long gone are the days, seemingly, when a clean design ruled all. Now there’s nobbly bits all over the hull.
I’m fine with that being the design after 30 years- I mean, look at the current military aircraft world. The F-15 has been in service since, what, the early 70’s, developed around then as well? The Sovereign class was brand spankin new for the Federation, probably hot off the assembly line… it makes total sense that after 30 years they would have an updated Sovereign class out there as well as something in Starfleets version of Skunkworks(a-la the only recently deployed F-22).
That said, I do wish that they had done up a better design… I’ve seen lots of fan designs that progress the design lineage in a much more coherent and “logical” manner.
So, in a real world, the design kind of makes sense… in the world of scifi TV/Movies/Games, yeah, it really should’ve been better.
83 – while i agree, i say just ‘wow’, talk about a Shatner ‘get a life’ moment, c’mon! I say we have another cup of spiked Nogg and let people be ungrateful uber-geeks and call it a day.
I think we’ve all learned from things like Star Trek Legacy that it’s not the attention to detail that makes a good Trek game, or show or movie, or comic… it’s the STORY and the trek principles behind it.
93 – the funniest come back to that ‘get a life’ snl thing was an advert i saw in a sci fi mag promoting the DC of ST TMP dvd..it ran:
‘Get a Life??….Nah get this instead!’
Visually i think the nacelle linkage is a big mistake, in that it messes with the form and flow of the ship way too much.
I understand what they are trying to do, and that is providing a solid tech link between the old universe and their updated one but i think the tinkering with the design in such a way that decreases the graceful elongated look of the ship is not solid,better to play towards rather than against the original design theme.
Hasn’t been a Trek computer game worth 2 cents since Elite Forces and the classic TOS themed Judgement Rites and 25th anniversay.
I’ve never understood why these gaming companies have such problems with Star Trek when the blueprints for doing it right have already been drawn with those two games.
If you want to do a good RPG or First person shooter, you really needn’t look any further than Judgememnt Rites and Elite Forces for inspiration.
I don’t like this ship, because I don’t like the Sovereign at all. It’s a matter of personal taste.
Disappointing! This is nothing more than an overt Sovereign Class kit-bash. In fact, it’s so similar it looks like a design variant.
Who cares if the design is good or bad? The point is that fans want to play in the Star Trek universe they know and love. Why make new stuff up, good or bad? It’s not a matter of canon or accuracy or design quality. If they are going to make up their own future and their own ships, why even bother calling it Star Trek?
Fans want to run around and interact with the era they like (TOS for me). Would you play a computer game based on some future remake of Voyage to The Bottom of the Sea? Or the new version of Knight Rider? How about some corporate-committee designed BSG, set 100 years beyond anything on the show? Of course not. If you like those things, you want a facsimile of them, not some game designers re-imagining.
So no one misinterprets my comments above, I am referring specifically to the interactivity and fantasy role-playing inherent in games. The new movie reimagining is fine, because the long-term commitment and interactive investment in a MMORPG is different than watching a 2-hour movie.
I’ll watch the movie of course. But who wants to spent hundreds of hours in an unfamiliar next generation Next Generation that they don’t know?
IT’S JUST A UGLY-FIED SOVEREIGN CLASS SHIP!
Oh my God, what is WRONG with these people?!?
I just have a question: What’s the name of the ship?
It’s bad enough that Cryptic have kit-bashed a storyline together so cack-handedly, without them doing it to the ships as well.
Coming soon: Defiant class with flame decals and cadillac fins.
KITBASHING FAIL
Unimaginative design. Not whining either and yes I could do better as could several pros here. This is just lazy much in the same way teh NX01 was just a flipped over rehashed Akira. Those that keep yelling out words like ‘whiner’ obviously have very low standards and are easily mollified as long as the product says ‘Trek” but that is what keeps companies like RUBIES in business. Not everyone that doesnt tow the line of the lowest common denominator is a whiner. Its is factually an unimaginative and derivative design. If you cant see that then worry less about what others are ‘whining’ about, get your eyes checked and maybe take some courses in design work.
I agree with Tanky. An over exaggerated Sovereign class.
hmm, the treknology seems about right I guess (and yes that stuff does tend to matter in a game like this)… but the design seems weak as a new class… as a refit though it’s plausible… I think the nacelles are pretty good, but I don’t really care for the pod in between, and I think the side indentations on the primary hull are kinda lame… I agree with some others here that some fan-designs for games (like the Century-class, Voyager-A, and Interceptor-class) seem to be better designs without being radically different, or barely different at all like this… I think they could have at least changed the hull colour to a lighter shade like the Rhode Island or SC-4, and maybe changed the shape of the escape pods… looking at the front, it’s almost EXACTLY the same as the Sovereign-class :/ …
I understand the ‘designers’ desire to keep the ship familiar enough to be recognized as a Starfleet ship even to more casual viewers. However, yes, this is a fairly warmed over kitbash. And like all kitbashes it reeks of budgetary and time constraints (which makes little sense). Not only that, it’s an inelegant kitbash at that.
Someone called it a “refit” soverign class. If you really knew star trek history, you would know that when the original enterprise was refit it was already at least 20 years old. If you recall in star trek 3 when Kirk was talking to that black admiral I believe he stated the enterprise was 30 years old and way past its time. But as a whole, the constitution class was used for at least 50 years. It isn’t that far fetched that they would just make a minor update from a previous design rather than make a whole design. You have to remember they have a game to sell. A MMO. A genre that is completely dominated by World of Warcraft. They need to make a dent and the only way to do that is to make it familiar.
Just to update my last message. For all you haters, they are making a MMO. DO YOU UNDERSTAND??? Just like the upcoming movie, they are not going to please all the “purists.” Sorry, but they need to make money and need to make Star Trek accessible to the masses again or it will ultimately fail and then where are we?
WOW has at least 7-8 million users(at least 2 of those are south korean, sad). They have destroyed all the other MMO’s. All I hear is WOW this, WOW that. This game is coming along great, screw how the ship looks. Big F’N deal. There will be so many other ship classes. Who cares about this ship when from what I have seen, the Defiant Class ship is still in service. That is the ship I am gunning for.
Guys, it’s part of a GAME. Not a movie. Who cares?
#1, You said it best.
+1
Oh my, I usually hate it when I start seeing everyone going gang busters up in here complaining about canon and everything else they can find, but I gotta say, this is a step down from the sovereign unless the picture doesn’t do it justice and they’re going to smooth it out. I even took a day to think about it before posting this.
While I have to say it’s kinda hard to keep reimagining things, I just don’t like this one. It does look like a sovereign. I don’t mind the thing between the nacelles and the curved nacelle holder thingamabobs, but the fact that in a few years they went from the enterprise d to the enterprise e, and after more than 100 years we go from the enterprise e to the enterprise e-b, it doesn’t speak well for their franchise. They needed to really come up with something cool and different. I mean shoot steal ideas from another franchise for goodness sakes, How about a star wars/fifth element/battle star/star trek morph? If I was an artist I’d have a dozen ideas that would be kick ass and different. This has actually made me nervous about the game when I have been nothing but excited up til now. However, as I do with most things, I’ll give it a go and see what happens but I think they need to come up with something more to lure folks in, especially the non ST fans.
World of warcraft? Here’s a novel idea….go outside and meet your neighbor! Talk to the person across the street! People will become fast friends with an Avatar from someone across the planet riding a dragon but they won’t speak to the people in the apartment below. Take your girl to a play. Talk to an elderly relative about times past. More people really should get out of the shadows and glow of the LCD screen and start living their REAL life…interacting with real people, to it’s fullest, before they commit every spare minute, outside of work, to a universe of bytes and pixels and create a lifetime of meaningless memories.
This ship represents everything anyone sane ever complained about with TNG and its fellow shows. A load of technobabble (read pseudo-science) representing all sound and fury meaning nothing.
The Enterprise in Star Trek XI is funkier than this ship! Unfortunately, this MMORPG game went into development when the TNG universe ruled the roost. Now that the TNG universe is over, the whole thing just looks . . . old-fashioned and dated.
Back to the drawing board, guys! Come up with something related to the Star Trek universe that people are going to care about in a few months’ time: the universe of the new Star Trek film! I’m amazed Paramount/CBS have allowed an out-of-date game to be released when they have a major franchise relaunch due in a few months!
How is anyone supposed to be excited about a game based on a defunct portion of a franchise?
Never did like the design of the Sovereign Class.
115 – where is the evidence that says that part of the franchise is “defunct”? We don’t know for sure there won’t be something in the next few years. It’s wishful thinking, granted, but I’d frankly enjoy something that looked to Star Trek’s future rather than constantly trying to re-write it’s history. And I’m not one of these canon-obsessives. I just think it leaves a lot more room for original storytelling. And a harkening back to Rodenberry’s original message (ie, cut the technobabble, and maybe don’t devote entire seasons to epic space battles) would be nice too.
I don’t have time to read through all of the comments here, but I see both positive and negative ones about the design. I’ll make these quick comments. The Sovereign Class vessel when introduced, was suppose to be one of the most advanced ships in terms of design and systems, but equally as important as her technological design was, her exterior hull design shape was just as advanced, based on the latest breakthroughs in warp field shape and theory (remember the shape of the hull plays a major roll along with the warp field controllers in shaping the warp field). If the design of the hull shape was as much of the break through as John Eaves and Rick Sternbach had intended story-wise back when they drew up the ship in 1995-1996, then I can see starfleet continuing to use the hull shape for many decades, combined with increasing warp field axis control capabilities. The Excelsior is a good example of this. Her hull shape was so good that it wasn’t until the mid 24th century before any breakthroughs were made. So I can see this NX-91001 ship using the same shape of hull as the Sovereign, even though her interior design layout and technologies will probably be very different.
#61 sez: “This is Star Trek, for god’s sake. It wasn’t written down by the son of God, or the Prophet Mohammed, or Prince Siddharta Gautama.”
Oh, sure, drag in other, more popular and more enduring fantasy franchises, whydontcha. That’s just mean :)
All of these ships look like variations on the theme of the original NCC-1701 to me. But then, I like “Star Trek” for the stories and the characters more than for gadgetry and ship design.
But it seems to me that a lot of these comments are not only negative; I would think the designer might find them rather hurtful as well — and unnecessarily so.
I think that the people who design these ships and variations on previous designs have considerable imaginative talents that I can only admire and envy. So for those who post “lame,” “unimaginative” or “bloody awful,” why don’t you come up with your own designs and post them? Maybe then we’ll see how well you do with a project that must be very time-consuming, demanding and not easy, to say the least.
I’d have to say that the only ship I’ve seen posted in recent weeks on this sight that looks kind of funny or odd to me is the Kelvin from the new film, and that is mostly because I am not used to seeing one-nacelled ships, and I prefer the symmetry and balance of seeing two. But that is probably because I am used to seeing the two nacelles on the original ship of TOS for over forty years now.
So please, criticize constructively, not rudely and harshly. And also please remember that it is generally much easier to criticize than it is to create.
My post #120 should read “on this site” not “sight.” Sorry … I’m a little tired after the holiday.
For me…NX 91001 is better than JJ-prise, but that´s all.
The TNG era is over with so this game will be outdated by the time the movie comes out- they should have worked with JJ Abrams to get the ship designs to tie in with the movie.
120 – as a graphic designer-turned-photographer, I’ve developed a thick skin when it comes to critique. As anyone who’s worked in the creative industry has done. It’s necessary in order to improve yourself as a designer. Obviously, we wouldn’t accept anything less than a constructive criticism from our peers, but when things get out into the wild, it’s a different story. Clients and the general hoi-polloi often aren’t interested in more than emotional responses to what’s set in front of them – “that’s shit”, “I could do better myself”, “why did they spend so much money on something so terrible?”, etc. It’s part of being in a creative sector, and has to be taken as water off a duck’s back. Thing is: what might be considered a well-resolved design may still generate a huge response like this. Good design is sometimes wasted on the public.
And then there’s the London 2012 logo…
@ #81 huh? did you see galaxy quest?
Its real !!!!! its AAALLLL REAAALL!
;-)
I think it looks ok, I mean if you look at a Royal Navy/US Navy warship from say 30 years ago, they dont look too different now, infact I’d hazzard a guess to say that alot of warships still in service now are from thirty years ago!
Besides this is only the first proper ship design and spec they have released…so cut them some slack! Everyone on this site seems to like a good old moan, prespective!
#124 – Yea….our London 2012 logo is especially shocking, rest assured NOONE likes it…save for Seb Cohen!
Personally I love it, but as Scotty once said, everyone’s entilted to their opinion.
Are you kidding me? Though I do like the idea of what I think is a seperate torpedo launcher, I think they could have come up with something better the mearly curving the nacell pylons and thaking the Reliant, torpedo launcher and just dropping it in. COME ON!!!
Lame design! It’s just a sovereign-refit instead of a complete new ship. They’ll better stay with the original Enterprise-E!
Adding to comment 122 I agree its better then the JJ-prise but then again what isn’t that thing is absolutly hidious, and totally changes the history of Star Trek they shoulda went with that rendering that has been floating about thing web for a year
I’ll admit I haven’t been nuts about game fiction, but I think the ship looks just fine and I can’t wait to play this game.
If Cryptic is smart (as well as Paramout, for that matter), they’ll pretty much ignore the loud clamoring from the canon folks. It’s not that they don’t have a right to their opinion, it’s more that from a bottom line standpoint, they don’t really matter.
I’ve played MMO’s, and complaining about this new ship is a bit like complaining that the Wooly Mammoth mount in World of Warcraft isn’t historically accurate. It may be true, but it has pretty much no bearing on gameplay.
I’m not sure who’s arguing canon. The debate is pretty much whether or not the ship looks good or crap.
take widgety ship, add more widgets and mini-nacelle-wings, name as new and advanced
mojonaut, I’m on the crap side of opinion.
NX-91001 USS Fanboy
I like the Specs. of the NX-91001 , but really don’t like the look of it ! I think I prefer #59 Amasov’s design look ! If anyone has been following the development of STO , Cryptic have made the game more commercial , and less deep , than what Perpetual intended to release to us ! Why has Paramount done this ? The online game is taking just as long to prepare for release ?!
#135
I should point out that the ship(s) in those images are from Star Trek Online.
#135 here is this.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Perpetual’s version of STO would have been dungle beetle crap. They had dumbed it down to a WoW in space clone. No ship interiors. No PvP. One faction only.
Cryptic’s version is better in all areas, visually and gameplay wise. Perpetual ORIGINALLY had a bold vision back in 2005. But they quickly had to tear it down to bits because of a lack of funding and budget and time.
The Bridge Commander modders could have come up with a better design than that trash.
I will not pay £x per month to play a kitbash of the Enterprise E
Wonder if I should just submit my Lacuna class starship with something that shows a little more innovation? Even though its appearance is just as contemporary.
#137 The Perpetual STO Team certainly weren’t doing that , as far as I know ; they were including interiors at the end of ‘07 . Anyway , I would think that the Intrepid Class-Ship Style was the direction of the 2370 period , the design would be ?
Sorry but must be said. This got to be one of the worst ship design possibly I can conceive for any federation ship. Although it keeps the soul of the federation flag ship in mind it lacks subtle change of technological advancement possible for a 30ish year grace period. Furthermore, the Enterprise class has always contained a degree of intense fire power but lacking actual sturdiness of other class (i.e defiant). In most ST series content the characters always evolved and change to improve upon ones self leaving the only question that why cant ST design and of the flag ship do as well. In Voyager where several ships … Prometheus, Dauntless showed solid integral improvement to actual design over the sovereign class. All in all I disapprove of this new digit class.
Two Thumbs way Down.
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I know Dauntless was not a federation design ship but we can always learn from others.
#141-142 I must agree , Chuck ! The design changes over 30 years would be both substantial and advanced . Even a Sovereign Class would probably looked more advanced . The NX-91001looks quite bulky , like a fleet ship , instead of an explorer – (designation is too long) .
I like the USS Dauntless , which I could see as an adopted scout ship of 2410 . And saying that , there should be more than one class of ship to serve on in Star Trek Online to be among the competitive alternatives !
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As a Trek fan I like it but as an artist I’m a little disappointed. A Sovereign with an unneccessary roll bar. Too kitbash for me, as has been stated by others. I like some of the other ships they’ve shown in the background much better.
Iam sorry but can i ask something to all whos posted negatively here, did anyone of you have such criticism of the refitted excelsior known as the enterprise-B? or the epic number of variants of the miranda class on TNG OR DS9? or even the nova class in VOY, that was designed based on the defiants hull!! not to mention the Oberth-class
Am sorry but the miranda and excelsior refits were in use for near 80 years in the star trek universe and hardly changed, and that was from the CREATORS of star trek, you can also say that they had little or no creativity when it came to the ‘next generation’ starships…
I agree that it looks like a refitted sovereign but so what? it IMHO looks like a nice ship and if ship design didnt change between the wrath of khan/undiscovered country movies all the way to the final episode of DS9 (when it comes to the excelsiors and mirandas) which is almost 90 years, why would ship design become so radical over a mere 30 years?
Come on guys everything has been going been going against a revival of ST for a while.Enterprise shut down early.Perputual dragged butt on the first idea of STO.The internet is full of canon crybabies, come on guys wake up J.J. Abrams is trying to revive Star Trek, Cryptic is trying to revive Star Trek, the least we fans can do is unite and show our support for anything ST related. There has been a lot of stuff thru the years i didn’t agree with in ST world but i watched the shows watched the movies and will play the games, why, because i am a fan of star trek and i don’t want it too die.
“miranda and excelsior refits were in use for near 80 years in the star trek universe and hardly changed, and that was from the CREATORS of star trek, you can also say that they had little or no creativity when it came to the ‘next generation’ starships…”
“little or no creativity… ” U admit it your self!!! all the reason for a good change.
Looks good. You can tell its a star trek ship. Which is always a good thing.
Love the ship cant wait to play!
I’m no fan boy… I’m no die hard…. I enjoy trek for the stories, the characters and the relationships. It’s all fine and dandy to refit a Sovereign Class to keep it up to date like was done with NCC-1701,Constitution, Miranda class so and so forth BUT they didn’t call them a new class of ship… they were still a part of their original classes… so to call NX-91001 an entirely new class is bull… Cryptic… just make NX-91001 part of a story/experimental dead end and come up with something more original, barring that just say the Federation’s best ship is a 40 year old refit and come up with a good story around why that is
also… what about crew compliment. And since they’re spewing out all that technobabble why don’t they tell us how many food replicators onboard…..
everyone on here is acting like this is the only ship in the game. if you’ve actually been following the game other than just the few articles on this site you would know that the game features alot of ships, ranging from small runabout like scouts to large dreadnoughts.
the game stresses that you customize the ships heavily from the nacelle struts to the nacelles themselves, the saucers, the engineering sections, ship colors, etc. with the idea that you will create the kind of vessel that speaks best to you.
but if they showed that here the cannonites would cry because its to different.
aside from that, this is a videogame and as such it has to speak to a particular market segment. a segment which probably really like the “E” as i do, and probably wouldnt have that much of an interest in the game if they left out the ability to play as a ship like that.
and lastly if you want a realistic view of this then just look at today’s prototypes. this is an NX-___ vessel or what would today be a “mule”. mules are just existing shells to test out new technology . just look at GM’s Volt, it gets tested in a cavalier, not exactly that sexy volt youve been seeing online huh. even when the big three drove a “volt” to DC they drove the mule since there isnt actually a volt shel with the volt technology in it yet.
please do some research before coming on here and whining about every little thing like you’re a star trek expert. I really get tired of always reading 30 somethings crying like 4 year olds because the star trek gods have forsaken them.
I’m going to throw in my two cents in here, just because I can. I am really excited about the movie coming out in May. I mean wow, this is actually happening. A new movie that is going to reignite the love of Trek that we have all been touched by.
I am also excited about this game. I mean wow again, a game where we can actually move around in and do the things we, as trek fans, have always dreamed about doing.
However, this ship design…I just don’t like it–and that’s my opinion.
This isn’t about cannon or technobable or whatever the hell u want to call it. The design is just wrong. It’s as wrong as the Enterprise NX-01 was wrong. Not that I didn’t like the design of the NX; it just wasn’t the right design for that time period in human history.
If we truly are embarking on something new; and we are going to represent that newness with a flag ship, then why not start from scratch and make a new design? Perpetual did, and as much as I thought that ship was too stubby looking, I still appreciated it’s newness to the Trek universe.
Even the smaller class vessels that they have created, the ones with portions of the hull that are missing…that’s new. That’s the line of thought they should be following.
Please don’t misunderstand me either, I love the Sovereign Class vessel. I love all the designs of the trek universe because they bring something unique to our imaginations.
But this? This isn’t unique; considering we are embarking on a new ‘trek’ journey.
The fun in ship design isn’t what Cryptic is going to hand us, but in what we can do to customize the existing ship classes. That said, this “new” class is bullcrap. It’s really just a pimped sovereign. I bet you could make a sovereign look just like that with the in-game ship creation tools. Cryptic totally wasted an opportunity to give us something actually new. I am disappointed. The tech specs are far too pimped. Everything else is gonna suck in comparison. Even a Defiant class will suck in comparison in a fight. That ain’t right. If they were planning on making a God-class ship, they could’ve made it something original. The new ship is to the Sovereign class as the All Good Things Enterprise-D is to the Galaxy Class. It’s the same ship, just with weird add-ons.
91001
It’s a date. The ship is superfluous.
# 151
Well there is a precedent for this kind of re-use of hull form, I don’t know if you remember the Soyuz-class that appeared in TNG, that class was just a Miranda-class variant: http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Soyuz_class
aww come on now so what if it looks like the Soveriegn class ..its prolly just a refit of some type that was so extencive that it gained its own classification
But the ship ain’t original enough–
AW, SHAADAPP!!!
THAT SHIP LOOKS AWESOME!!!
Geesh you guys! Look at Star Trek: Enterprise, then Star Trek (Original) then STNG… All of the ship designs are the same and many ye
Year 2151 – Star Trek: Enterprise
Year 2379 – Star Trek: Nemesis
228 year later and the designs are still the same. Some of you are complaining about 30 more years?! Geesh… Nit Pick why dont you?