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Star Trek: The Experience Expected To Re-open In 2010 + Part 2 of ST:TE Documentary May 3, 2009

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Conventions/Events/Attractions,Trek Franchise , trackback

Star Trek The Experience closed down at the Las Vegas Hilton last September, but since October we have been reporting that it may have new life at a new location in Vegas. According to the best info we can gather, it looks like a new STTE will be back in 2010 at Neonopolis in downtown Las Vegas. More details below plus a new entry Vernon Wilmer’s STTE Documentary.

 

A new Star Trek The Experience for 2010
In our previous reports on The Experience we have noted some of the statements from Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman and Neonopolis manager Rohit Joshi were somewhat optimistic, including the claim that they would open at least one phase by the first week of May in time for the new Star Trek movie. CBS will still barely acknowledge the project exists on the record and it appears they are trying to get Goodman and Joshi to reign in their optimistic estimates as well.

According to TrekMovie research and sources it looks like ST: The Experience will reopen sometime in 2010 and it may open in phases (this is still being discussed). If it does, the first phase would be a bar/restaurant and the Museum of the Future. Right now everything is still in the planning phase and there is no construction going on. It also looks like the new Experience will be significantly different than the one at the Hilton, with the inclusion of more elements from both The Original Series and the new Star Trek movie. It is also expected that the pricing will be lower than at the Experience at the Hilton. Those are both welcome changes.

When the main details get worked out, it is likely CBS will finally make an official announcement about the new Experience (something they have yet to do). Until then, as noted in previous reports, it is not wise to make any travel plans to Vegas and assume you will be able to see The Experience.

 

Part 2 of Vernon Wilmer’s ST: The Experience Documentary
In our last update we showed you a great behind the scenes documentary about Star Trek The Experience at the Las Vegas Hilton, put together by former cast member Vernon Wilmer. Now he has released the second part focusing on the genesis of The Experience, check it out below.

 

Comments

1. Holger - May 3, 2009

Good news! I’d like to go there but I’ll have to take the trip over the Atlantic first.

2. Data476 - May 3, 2009

Interesting news indeed…

I never went to the first Experience, not even sure if I’d get to go to the second. Vegas is expensive and my parents would never be able to afford to go there…

3. ster julie - May 3, 2009

Anthony, there have been multiple posts daily for so long that I just have to ask–

Do you EVER sleep?

4. Nick Cook - May 3, 2009

I loved the original Experience. If and when the new one opens, I’ll certainly visit. I just hope they can recapture some of the magic of the original.

5. Loskene - May 3, 2009

I have never been to America, but if this does open my travel plans are set

6. Anthony Pascale - May 3, 2009

ster julie
bear in mind that i only write some of the stories, but lately sleep has been short. I do believe in our 2.75 year history there have only been one or two days with no articles, lately we are running four or five, including ‘omnibus’ articles that contain multiple news items other sites would run as single articles. This week is going to be a blizzard of articles from TM…including a bunch of interviews, starting later today.

7. Navy - May 3, 2009

I think there is little time for sleep when operating a site like trek movie, with millions of impatient trek fans beating the doors down!

When is the spoiler filled review coming, with answers about the nacelle caps? :D

8. RTC - May 3, 2009

Anthony’s going to be doing some *serious* regeneration after this week….

;-)

9. awww - May 3, 2009

so it’s not opening in time for the premiere?

10. Will - May 3, 2009

Yay for the return with possibly more TOS, boo for possibly any Faux-TOS.

11. noirgwio - May 3, 2009

I NEVER got to go to STTE… Hope to one day get there!

12. Richard Martin - May 3, 2009

I agree with 10. No trek11 stuff please, or at least stuffed away in a small corner.

13. harrydog - May 3, 2009

I so want to go back

14. TREKKIE369 - May 3, 2009

#10–Will, chill, (maybe on Delta Vega).

I can’t wait for the Experience to reopen. I was there for last year’s Las Vegas Convention, right before the Experience closed. I loved it. Can’t wait for the new one to open.

#6–I do hope that you get some sleep after the movie is out. And THANK YOU for doing TrekMovie.com it is ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL! Thanks, from all the Trekkies.

15. TREKKIE369 - May 3, 2009

#12–Go follow Will to Delta Vega and chill out.

16. Weerd1 - May 3, 2009

I was lucky enough to see the first one before it closed. Much fun, though it was obviously not being taken care of the way it should have been. It would be nice to see one getting the care and attention Trek deserves.

Besides- then when I retire I can be one of their tour guides and spend all day walking around in my Trek uniform because it’s my job and not just because I’m a freak.

17. Ciarán - May 3, 2009

I was never fortunate enough to visit The Experience, but I am hoping that once it is completely built and opened, then I will visit. I want to “experience” it all (pardon the pun) in completion.

18. I am not Herbert - May 3, 2009

Star Trek Experience was the only reason I agreed to go to Vegas with my girlfriend a few years back. We did other stuff too, but STE was definitely the highlight for me!

The 3-D rides were the COOLEST!!! I’ll always remember all the girls screaming with glee/surprise when they got sprayed in the face (with mist)!!! ;-)

Seeing all of the Trek artifacts was cool, hanging out in Quark’s Bar was fun, and I got my GF a furry little tribble.

GOOD TIMES!!!

19. cpelc - May 3, 2009

Comedy Central is having Beam Me Up Sunday hosted by Simon Pegg right now!

20. AdmNaismith - May 3, 2009

ST-TE was awesome. I could ride the Klingon Shuttle dealie all day.
I have to give a shout out to the actors of The Experience. Dealing with tourists (and me nearly falling over drunk from a Warp Core Breach) is no easy task and these folks did an amazing job without ever broke character.

Good concept. Good people. I hope it lives on (though the gods only know what the new movie’s parallel universe will mean to something like this).

21. SciFiMetalGirl - May 3, 2009

I will be there opening day, as I was for the previous ones!

22. I am not Herbert - May 3, 2009

19. cpelc: “Comedy Central is having Beam Me Up Sunday hosted by Simon Pegg right now!”

EXCELLENT!! He’s having two of my favorites: “Shaun of the Dead” & “Harold & Kumar”!! Now I just need a little spliff… X-)

23. Dr. Severin and all his friends - May 3, 2009

Never been to ST-SE, but I will if it reopens. And for me, living in NYC, a week in Vegas would seem affordable. And I could go see Groom Lake, et al., so that would be cool.

BWT – I am SERIOUSLY psyched about the new film, and I bought tickets to the IMAX NYC preview night for 10:15 p.m. minutes after they were available. And my boyfriend (a guy, BTW) has even agreed to go, with reserved enthusiasm. (He’s also a film snob, and he’s been reading reviews of the film, so this might be a good thing.)

So, bottom line is that I am STOKED and look forward to many other kick-ass Star Trek opening nights, in all their glory.

24. Dr. Severin and all his friends - May 3, 2009

Oh, I meant, I think, ST-TE, but I’m not sure. And of course my boyfriend is a guy, but so am I.

I think most TREK fans aren’t worried about this stuff. OK, I know it.

25. Michael - May 3, 2009

Anthony – why is it that at random times I not only get the notice of the new article on Trekmovie but I get attached the media file associated with it? It DOES NOT happen everytime so it must be a setting in WordPress when an article is published. This time the attached WMV for this article was 895MB!!!!! Do you have any idea how that clogs up a mail server??? Why can’t this be prevented????????

26. THX-1138 - May 3, 2009

A recent report on Roddenberry.com said that there were no developements like construction or even slapping on some new paint at Neonopolis. The local contact did a search of the public records in Las Vegas for construction permits for any renovations for Neonopolis and none could be found. Other than talking about it, nothing official has actually happened.

I want the Experience back as much as anyone but I think I’ll believe it when I see it.

27. cpelc - May 3, 2009

25 – Just get Google Reader easier and free

28. Greg - May 3, 2009

Would it be possible to post the documentary in a lower quality somewhere, like on YouTube or something? I’d love to watch it but at the current file size it’s going to take me hours and hours to download it.

29. Billman - May 3, 2009

I used to work at the Experience back in 2000-2001, a few years before they added the BORG 3-D part. I was also there opening day and the day it closed.

They were being run by Paramount Parks back then, and In my year and a half there, I saw prices go from $10 a person to $25. Shortly after I left, it went up to $40. Attendance would DECREASE every time prices increased.

I think Cedar Fare are the guys that own it now (at least a few years before it closed) and if they move it to Neonopolis here in Vegas, and lower prices, they may have a shot at making something profitable. But I doubt it. It was hard enough to run the place, though it did have a good 10 year run the first time.

I don’t honestly think it would work again. It relies on tourism, and the economy sucks right now. Plus, I don’t think trekkies can make it to vegas on a regular enough basis to keep it running. Certianly the trekkies that live here weren’t enough in the past.

But who knows. I think it’d be better as an ADDITION to an existing theme park than it’s own thing. Maybe like back in the day when Universal Studios had The Star Trek Adventure. Something like that. Otherwise, I don’t think it would last long if they redesigned it and reopened it here in Vegas.

30. Paul Walker - May 3, 2009

My name is Paul Walker. Some of you may have seen my past comments here at Trekmovie about the Star Trek: Experience. Our club was very lucky to have been invited to participate in the official closing ceremonies when Star Trek: Experience closed back on September 1st, 2008. (Video clips can be found on Youtube,com) While that was indeed a very sad day for us here localy since our club met every month at Quark’s we were forced to find other locations to meet at. Nothing comes close to what we had at Quark’s. Ever since the annoucement about the re-opening of the Experience in downtown Las Vegas our club has been very hopeful that a phoenix will be rising from the ashes. We too were very hopeful about the well publicized May opening but being residents of SIN CITY at seeing first hand the new loaction we knew it would not happen on the schedule they had set.

I tried to set a meeting with Neonopolis manager Rohit Joshi and as of today I still have heard nothing back. I wanted to introduce our club to him and try to get in on the ground floor of his new “experience” (pardon the pun). In the past I have sent in many updates or ( news of no updates ) as it turned out to Anthony Pascale so he would/could update you the readers about what is going on here in Las Vegas. This update is long overdue in my opinion and I am happy to see he finally posted one. It is true that as of today Sunday May 2nd, there is NO sign of construction, No sign of improvements, no nothing. No coming soon signs. no windows covered up nothing, zilch nada,. I am not surprised that according to THX 1138 ” The local contact did a search of the public records in Las Vegas for construction permits for any renovations for Neonopolis and none could be found”

Our club will continue to monitor the development of the NEW Star Trek: Experience and I will continue to report in to Anthony Pascale any new updates or pictures of NEW construction or signs about the Experience begining it next phase.

If anyone would like to contact me directly about this or are planning a trip here to Las Vegas…Please email me at: captainwalker@usslasvegas.org or trekfan0001@yahoo.com

31. JT - May 3, 2009

Vernon that was great!

32. Treknut - May 3, 2009

Thank you for the article Anthony and to you as well Paul. My Imzadi and I look forward to traveling to Vegas this week anyway where we will join a great many like-minded friends for the opening of Star Trek – the Movie. No doubt we will encounter a great many beings both human and otherwise at the Space Quest Bar Thursday evening. Any good folk out there in the Vegas area, please come join in the unofficial celebration after the 7 pm screening. I remain most confident that this reboot of the franchise will succeed where no franchise has before.

33. T'Cal - May 3, 2009

I went several times with my wife, family, and friends. I drove my wife and kids there from Chicago last June for our 20th wedding anniversary. We were remarried on the Bridge. It was soooo cool.

If you didn’t go to STTE 1.0, you missed a very cool, well, experience. It got a little stagnent at the end so I’m hoping STTE 2.0 freshens things up a bit.

34. 750 Mang - May 3, 2009

Can’t wait to go back.

LL&P

35. Resident nEvil - May 3, 2009

#10 – “Faux TOS” is the main reason the Experience is coming back in the first place. Without the injection of new fans who might be interested in seeing the series’ roots, it’d become an ever more niche attraction that couldn’t sustain itself long-term.

I’m sure plenty of TOS fans weren’t interested in the TNG stuff they had, and vice versa. But why begrudge those of us who can enjoy both/some/all of Trek?

36. Jenny Glidden - May 3, 2009

Icky- I’m not installing a microsoft plugin. Can you please upload to Youtube so the rest of us can see the video?

37. LoyalStarTrekFan - May 3, 2009

This is excellent news! I’m hoping that The Experience will be much larger and inclusive of all of Star Trek but also never forgetting about the TNG era.

38. Third Remata'Klan - May 3, 2009

Yay!

And @ #6:
Anthony, thank you for everything you and the rest of the Trekmovie staff do here. Your work is top-notch, excellent, and much appreciated.

39. Paul Walker - May 3, 2009

Re: #32

treknut…email me for details about a special Star Trek movie event I put together in association with Regal Entertainment Group perhaps you may want to check it out while you are here in Las Vegas.

Capt. Walker
USS Las Vegas
Star Trek Fan Club

40. Brad - May 3, 2009

Dang, that video was LOOOOOOOOONG. I didn’t expect to be sitting here all evening watching it. Kinda cool though. Makes me sad that the Experience is gone now. I always enjoyed going to the Hilton and eating at Quark’s when I was in Vegas. I’ll definitely come to the new one when it opens!

41. Vernon Wilmer - May 3, 2009

31 – Thank you.

25 – Sorry that happened to you.

28 & 36 – Youtube sucks. they have autofilters that reject most of my videos and their quality is bad. My 900mb wma uploads to blip.tv are the best compromise I can use to share these videos with the general public. Soon I will render smaller versions that can be accessed in the dropdown under each episode. But I have to sleep sometime…

42. Vernon Wilmer - May 3, 2009

Thanks for hanging in there Brad.

43. mntrekfan - May 3, 2009

Does anyone know the status of the Star Trek tour? I haven’t heard anything lately. Just want to know when it’s coming to Minnesota?

44. Paul Walker - May 3, 2009

Re: 41 & 42

Vernon: When you get all caught up on yoru sleep …..contact me.. when you can via email I supplied….

Capt. Walker
USS Las Vegas
Star Trek Fan Club

45. Jim Nightshade - May 3, 2009

Hey Vernon love all your hard work and talented filmaking–how can we download part 1 and 2-I wanna add them to my psp experience pixs & videos-Ive been buying some from ebay-a few are gems but most of the rest ain`t half as good as your videos-also loved seeing April too man I sure miss all you guys–also I am pretty sure I met you when Sheri and I were visiting quarks and April a tuesday nite mid august last year-she introed you to us as the historian for the experience-now I know what she meant!

46. April Hebert - May 3, 2009

All good things…we know that there will never be anything like the original STTE. They can’t make an exact recreation of the wonderful time station where I spent 11 incredible years; but they can make something different, new and equally awesome at Neonopolis, and I’m excited to see what they come up with!

I am also looking forward to the new movie, a new incarnation of something I have loved for so many years. I don’t mind that the new STTE will also undoubtedly be different–it SHOULD be different! It’s exciting to think about what might happen, because that’s what the future is all about and that’s what makes the Star Trek universe so appealing. If more people are inspired by the new look of Trek, so much the better. More people who love Trek means more hope for a brighter future.

Thanks so much to Vernon Wilmer, who puts a voice to all of us who worked to make Star Trek real for millions of guests for over a decade. He is truly the Experience’s archivist, and I am eternally grateful for his dedication to this task. I’ve never been able to put into words exactly what my time at Star Trek:The Experience meant to me, but if you watch Vernon’s documentary, you might have a tiny glimpse of it.

47. Vernon Wilmer - May 3, 2009

It’s easy to download & save them – under the comments collumn, right-click on “download” and select “save target as”.

48. Vernon Wilmer - May 3, 2009

Where did you provide your e-mail address Paul?

49. Captain Stephen P. Wylie - May 3, 2009

that video made me cry because the experience left so soon
too bad i only went there for a day. wish i had more time to visit it

50. Renata - May 3, 2009

Sorry if this is considered spamming but I’m really excited that Brazil is finally starting to promote Star Trek that I couldn’t help myself and had to post in here to share the news with other Brazilian fans. SET has exclusive interviews with J.J.Abrams and the cast.
Scans are available here:
http://zach-quinto.net/wp/gallery/set-scans/

51. Chris M - May 3, 2009

As soon as the new STTE is fully up and running I will definitely be heading back to Vegas! I was in Vegas in 2004 and STTE was one of the highlights of the trip for me and my mate! I actually purchased a T-Shirt with the STTE logo on it which I am planning on wearing when I see Star Trek later in the week! :)

52. Brad - May 3, 2009

Vernon, no problem. I thought it was going to be a 5 or 10 minute clip, but I loved seeing all the behind the scenes stuff, makeup, casting auditions, and especially all of the construction and model making that went into making STTE. I’d probably consider myself a closet trekkie. I don’t have a spandex uniform or anything, but I really enjoy all the series, though I haven’t watched much of SD9 or Enterprise (still waiting for them to be release to Blue-Ray). I’ve always enjoyed what Star Trek stands for, giving people hope toward a positive future, and visiting STTE, gave me a glimpse into that incredible imaginary world. It was truly a pleasure to watch the documentary, and I hope to see a Part 3 in the future! Most of all, I hope to see the return of STTE and I REALLY hope that it will be just as good, if not better, than before!

53. JimJ - May 3, 2009

Well, I guess that postpones the trip to Vegas until at least summer of 2010. Here I was hoping for THIS summer. Patience…vigilence……

54. Jim Nightshade - May 3, 2009

ok thanks for the help vernon-hi and hugs to april from jeff and sheri-we hope u r doing well hun-we miss ya-I just lost my job 2 weeks ago but im so excited bout the new trek movie i dont even care–i will also be wearing a star trek experience shirt friday for the noon imax showing at the seattle center!

55. Paul Walker - May 4, 2009

Re: #48

Vernon…see my posting above #30
and April Hebert PLEASE also email me directly again…See #30 above for my email address…

Look forward hearing from BOTH of you…..

Capt. Walker
USS Las Vegas
Star Trek Club

56. Marvin - May 4, 2009

Went to “Star Trek:The Experience” last July.

After seeing thing like the “Borgralounger”. I’m hoping it opens again soon…

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58. Deep_Space_913 - May 4, 2009

I will be in Vegas in two months. I was hoping for some sort of new STTE. Oh well. I will still go and scope out neonopolis. Spend a few bucks in there and hope that those dollars will find its way toward helping the new experience. :-)

59. falcon - May 4, 2009

I’ve been to the Experience twice, the second time to have my picture taken in the Captain’s chair. It was a fun experience the first time – the transporter, the bridge, the “grand corridor” (just some between-sets space they dolled up to look like part of a starship) and the shuttle ride (which, the second time I did it, looked decidedly dated). The second time, it was clear the attraction had not been properly maintained (although this was before the Borg additions). I would hope that, however the Experience comes back, it does so in the hands of people who care about it and will keep it looking fresh and new.

And I want to see the TOS bridge! To sit in that captain’s chair would be the event of a lifetime.

60. Crusade2267 - May 4, 2009

I sure hope I get to go. It’ll be great.

61. ncx1701e - May 4, 2009

Has anyone read this article and watched the video.
It shows the some cool star trek experience concept photos from Rohit Joshi, Neonopolis’s owner’s representative at http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/kats-report/2009/mar/16/new-life-new-civilizations-coming-neonopolis/

During the video, concept drawings can be seen on the wall in the background. An obvious original movie enterprise can be seen.
Later in the video some very nice shots of the drawing can be seen. Looks like a 10 story or even bigger walk in original 1701(a) enterprise.

62. Kosher Coder - May 4, 2009

Thanks to the new movie, I wonder how they’ll explain the Time Station in this new incarnation, now that almost everything we’ve seen in Trek to date never existed.

63. Vernon Wilmer - May 4, 2009

61 – Yeah those concept paintings of the “Enterprise Complex” are very old, from the early 90’s before the Experience was born. You see one in my documentary. He probably has them up in his office for inspiration. Also on the wall are photos of Quan & Khalen from a past convention, and a floor plan of Neonoplis.

64. Vernon Wilmer - May 4, 2009

Thank you JT, and thank you April. And thanks for the spoiler Kosher!

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66. Vernon Wilmer - May 4, 2009

No! Disney is evil!!!

67. Lt. Bailey - May 4, 2009

Vernon, Once again you have proved “Nobody does it better’! Lisa and I were thrilled with Part 1and this just adds to it. You have done a great job on this and if some one has never been to STTE in the past, this is the remembrence/memorial to what was at the Hilton. Look forward to more of it. Hope to see you at the Lebrato Grotto (Quarks 1.5) again when we get to LV in June. You too, April!!!

As long as STTE comes back, we will all be happy…not to mention drinking Tranya, Mind Melds, Borg Spheres, Blood Wine, Romulan Ale and Warp Cores.

68. Keith Ketchum - May 4, 2009

#2 – Actually Vegas isn’t as expensive as most major destination cities, ie: Orlando, LA, Chicago, NYC.

One can shop around for decently priced hotels and there are quite a number of free things to see and do.

69. Treknut - May 4, 2009

Take it from a 12 year veteran who worked for Disney – it is evil. We used to call Burbank= Moushwitz

70. Treknut - May 4, 2009

Vernon: Part II is another triumph. I was touched, fascinated, entertained and most of all tranported for a brief time into what is truly the Star Trek Experience. I am so grateful that my Imzadi and I shared some of this with all of you at STTE. Thank you so much for such a fine movie. Can’t wait for the next chapter.

71. Vernon Wilmer - May 4, 2009

Thank you all for the positive feedback, I’m glad you’re enjoying the series. I’m hunkering down on Part 3 right now…

72. JohnWA - May 5, 2009

Part of the problem is Las Vegas has been actively rebranding itself as an adult only destination. The theme park atmosphere of the 1990s is definitely dead. Most of the other family attractions are gone too. STTE was, in fact, one of the last survivors from the ‘Orlando-fication’ era. But it couldn’t possibly last in such an environment. The experience simply didn’t fit in with the new ultra lounge crowd (e.g. Paris Hilton).

Short of relocating to Florida, I think they definitely need a leaner business model. If the motion simulators cost a fortune to operate, then perhaps they should retire them for good (and turn the sets into walkthrough exhibits). I loved those rides too. But honestly, even the evil Mouse himself wouldn’t charge Disney World admission for two rides. At any rate, ticket prices will have to come down considerably.

Because it is essentially just a bar and restaurant, Quark’s was probably the most profitable part of the venture. It can also attract a regular stream of customers rather than just curious tourists. Maybe they should promote that angle more than the theme park one.

The gift shops definitely need to be downsized as well. The shops were empty both times I was there. And with the advent of EBay, Trekkies can get their Starfleet Academy gear quite easily without going to Las Vegas.

This can work. But it will almost certainly require painful changes. Sadly, I don’t think it’ll last long if they just rebuilt the old experience.

73. Frankie - May 5, 2009

I loved the rides but your right it was to expenceve to run. i think they should do a star treck rollercoaster that would be cool or a water park we need one agean here in the Vegas heat. I liked wet and wild. that would be cool.

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76. wab1701 - May 5, 2009

I was so bummed last year when I read the Experience was going to close I almost cried (almost). My mother went to Vegas in 07 and I bought her a ticket for the experience. She absolutely loved it (not a Trek fan) and brought me back all kinds of goodies! When I told her it was closing she told me to go. I was in school and working crazy hours. My family chipped in and I got to go for graduation last year. It was amazing. I dragged a friend with me and we had a ball. Was only in Vegas for two full days, live in Florida, you can imagine how tired I was when I got home on Monday. It was well friggin worth it, though. Got my pic in the big chair and got borgified with my friend. I could def see that it hadn’t been well-maintained, though. The bridge was practically falling apart and it was dirty up-close. Still, it was my Mecca and I got there before they closed it. I’ll be at the new one as soon as I can!

77. ST:EXP - May 5, 2009

The entire Hilton Trek facility as it was up until closing is available to view in an immersive virtual tour at:

http://www.startrek360.com

78. BigMac - May 5, 2009

One of greatest annoyances is watching reporters try to act hip while showing they have no clue what they are talking about. Case in point, Ms. Lightfoot. Ugh.

79. Donna Henderson - May 14, 2009

I loved STAR TREK-THE EXPERIENCE a lot, from its wonderful gift shop, the dynamite Quark’s bar where you could order out of this world drinks, the ride itself, the restaurant where you could have a great, inexpensive meal while watching Star Trek episodes and The Enterprise hanging overhead, but the most fun was meeting all of the aliens who hang out there. You could have met Quark and his Ferengi relativesi, the Klingons, the Borg and all the others. It was wonderful! I went there last October and the first stop I made was to go to Quark’s Bar. Boy, was I big-time disappointed when I got there and found nothing except an entrance to the Monorail where the bar used to be. I went looking for the Concierge who told me the story of its closing and why. I’m looking forward to its bigger and hopefully better location next year. Live long and prosper – ST-TE! P.S. Go see the new movie – it’s dynamite! P.P.S., for the person who says Vegas is expensive, you are very wrong. Check out vacation prices on line. There are big bargains to be had on travel websites.

80. John - July 6, 2009

It will never open. CBS is putting no money into it.
The downtown area is trashy, dirty, and filled with “unwanted” types. Why they would want to move it there I will never know.
DO NOT go to the downtown area after sundown or risk being robbed or hurt!

81. Ann - July 16, 2009

Vegas is not expensive. There are dirt cheap hotel and flight deals because they want to lure you to gamble. Just don’t gamble! Meals are very reasonably priced considering the high quality. There is plenty to do in the area in addition to the The Star Trek Experience. The Grand Canyon and Hoover Dam are both a day trip away and are spectacular!

82. Black Pearl - July 19, 2009

Don’t want to be selfish about this, but I think Newcastle upon Tyne in the NE of England would be an excellent site.
For one theres plenty of Klingons wandering around already, so they would sell a boat load of Warp Cores at Quarks
Two, The Govt. even pays cash to all the declared alcoholics… more Warp Core sales !
Three, we get so many aliens visiting and staying in the country now so Quarks would be a good stopping off point…. oh and guess what the Govt. give them free cash to spend as well… even more Warp core sales.. !
Four, ‘seriously’, after vistiting the Experience & Quarks nearly every day of my stay, last July, I too would be pleased to see it resurrected :)

83. Valerie - July 19, 2009

Does anyone have any updated information on what is happening with the Experience. I will be in Vegas in October (from Australia) and would like to know if it is worth popping in to Neonopolis at all.

84. Jim Nightshade - July 22, 2009

Last we heard nothing has even been started yet at Neonopolis so no reason to go-I also saw the sensor dish of the enterprise d that was at the old location sell on e bay and whoever got it said that model did not survive the move-

85. Vegaspock - July 26, 2009

Don’t count on much of anything. Nevada has the most depressed economy in the nation. When things get rolling again, there will be more important things to attend to than the reopening of STTE. Furthermore, the Neonopolis is a dive. They can’t run a simple restaurant and movie theater, so I don’t know what makes one think they could run a major theme attraction like STTE.

If this does happen, I wouldn’t expect to see it until a year or two after the economy rebounds. And then, I don’t expect it to be half as cool as the operation at the Hilton.

86. Valerie - July 28, 2009

Thanks guys – how depressing is that.

87. Tim from TANcast - August 4, 2009

I stand by my idea to take it out of Vegas and give it to a group of people who KNOW how to do a total immersion themed experience because they’ve been doing it for 54 years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbOGbkHlyVw

88. Son of a Maui Portagee - August 17, 2009

In response to RD’s comment no. 230 at:

http://trekmovie.com/2009/08/13/even-more-from-orci-kurtzman-on-linking-next-two-star-trek-movies/

where he said “Your statement suggests that CBS can shut down a licensee at any time…”

I’m going to try to post my reply in 4 parts to see if I can isolate whatever it is that’s causing the comment system to swallow it.

BEGIN PART ONE

That’s not exactly what I was suggesting. I was suggesting that the strength of their legal team and the nature of their licenses are such that they could, in effect, shut down a licensee at their whim.

I was aware of TrekMovie’s coverage.

I’m glad you mentioned all that speculation as I believe it indicates the level of discourse you find acceptable in this and makes my response easier.

That Hilton leading accusation/speculation/rumor was always flatly denied with no substantiation of the blame ever produced. The falling attendance reason flies in the face of the original marketing ramp-up for ST09 for December which would have given them reason to anticipate increasing numbers.

I believe there’s equally strong indications CBS set the dominoes in motion for their own reasons. I have an opinion what that reason was but I’ll save that for later.

Let’s look at what little evidence there is:

http://www.lvrj.com/business/22803789.html

“No one from the three organizations involved — Cedar Fair, the Hilton or CBS — took responsibility for the attraction’s demise.” – BENJAMIN SPILLMAN, REVIEW-JOURNAL

Now in my book, when you’ve got a 3-way denial-fest going on the mantle of responsibility of failure goes to the highest ranking officer: CBS.

END PART ONE

89. Son of a Maui Portagee - August 17, 2009

In response to RD’s comment no. 230 at:

http://trekmovie.com/2009/08/13/even-more-from-orci-kurtzman-on-linking-next-two-star-trek-movies/

where he said “Your statement suggests that CBS can shut down a licensee at any time…”

BEGIN PART TWO

If the Hilton had a use lined-up for the space as was suggested:

http://www.lvrj.com/business/51297162.html

Do you think they could have afforded to wait this long to fill it? Let alone, through inaction, allow a lien to get filed preventing said use?

This seems to allow the licensee/licenser power duo that you and S. John Ross seem to favor to rise to the top. I ask you, who do you think pushes who around in that arrangement?

END PART TWO

90. Son of a Maui Portagee - August 17, 2009

In response to RD’s comment no. 230 at:

http://trekmovie.com/2009/08/13/even-more-from-orci-kurtzman-on-linking-next-two-star-trek-movies/

where he said “Your statement suggests that CBS can shut down a licensee at any time…”

BEGIN PART THREE

Just look how CBS licensing dealt with Rohit Joshi. Even though the the initial exhibits were originally developed in stages at the Hilton itself CBS dictated all or nothing. This in spite of the fact that it seems clear CBS wants THE EXPERIENCE to implement a new ToS themed change to everything. A fat lot of good having a license did his reasonable plans:

(Apparently the posting hangup has something to do with the links cited. You are going to have to cut and paste to the following base address if you want to read the original LAS VEGAS SUN articles):

http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/kats-report/2009/

mar/16/new-life-new-civilizations-coming-neonopolis/

“As for Star Trek, Joshi has run afoul of CBS, which owns the Trek title and licensing rights by specifying just what will happen at Neonopolis.” – John Katsilometes, LAS VEGAS SUN

apr/17/new-phase-no-may-8-opening-star-trek-experience-ne/

“The story is, CBS has essentially taken control of the Star Trek universe (Or is it galaxy? Whichever intergalactic term fits) and will not permit any phaser, I mean phase, of the attraction to open in conjunction with the movie’s release. Rohit Joshi, who heads the development team that owns Neonopolis, had hoped to bring in a gift shop and maybe bar/restaurant in May. However, CBS, which owns the “Star Trek” title and licensing rights, has a different time frame.” – John Katsilometes, LAS VEGAS SUN

may/05/starship-enterprise-holding-pattern-over-neonopoli/

“The Experience won’t open until 2010 at the earliest, Rohit Joshi, head of the development company that owns Neonopolis, confirmed today. He added that the exhibit will not open in phases, but as a single entity.” – John Katsilometes, LAS VEGAS SUN

END PART THREE

91. Son of a Maui Portagee - August 17, 2009

In response to RD’s comment no. 230 at:

http://trekmovie.com/2009/08/13/even-more-from-orci-kurtzman-on-linking-next-two-star-trek-movies/

where he said “Your statement suggests that CBS can shut down a licensee at any time…”

BEGIN PART FOUR

Let’s keep an eye on hearing 63954:

http://hearings.state.nv.us/Calendars/09-Aug%203-Aug%207-HOLV.pdf

as more useful data is liable to come to light.

A reasonable conclusion as any you indicated seems to be that CBS was unhappy with Cedar Fair which had a license good to 2012 and, in effect, dropped them at their whim.

Now it is my opinion CBS shut down THE EXPERIENCE because they wanted to initiate the aforementioned theme changes to that and all the exhibits faster than was happening and removed what they perceived as an obstacle but the Sun reporting seems to indicate they may have other motivations. The lien story seems to indicate TLVH isn’t putting the space to use. CBS licensing, in effect, isn’t allowing Joshi use of any of his stuff. I’d say someone wouldn’t be too disappointed to see the “upgraded” experience/exhibits return to their original “home”.

FWIW the latest:

http://www.roddenberry.com/communityblogs/index/detail?id=201

END PART FOUR

92. Son of a Maui Portagee - August 17, 2009

#88-91

What a nice propogation of a typo. It was RD’s comment no. 231 and not 230 in:

http://trekmovie.com/2009/08/13/even-more-from-orci-kurtzman-on-linking-next-two-star-trek-movies/

to which I was responding in four parts.

I’m just glad I finally got the whole thing to post.

93. Son of a Maui Portagee - August 17, 2009

In case anyone missed this:

http://www.lvrj.com/news/26826019.html

“CBS-Paramount helped shape the Experience and owns the intellectual property rights. So it will take back and lock up museum pieces, like Capt. Kirk’s costume and Spock’s coffin. It will consider hauling away entire spaceship bridges. But everything the studio doesn’t want will be destroyed, as contracts stipulate, to keep workers from putting any of it up for sale on eBay.” – Doug Elfman, LAS VEGAS REVIEW JOURNAL

94. Son of a Maui Portagee - August 18, 2009

Here’s the latest pictures:

http://www.roddenberry.com/communityblogs/index/detail?id=373

of what used to be STTE.

95. Black Pearl - August 19, 2009

Thanks for the interesting detailed update / info / links.
Pleased I managed to get there last July, a lucky last minute switch of holiday destination, having no idea that the STE was to be closed.
Only been the once and far exceeded my expectations.

96. G.D - December 9, 2009

I spent a week in vegas, spent one day at the grand can yon, one day at hoover dam, and another day at the star trek experience.
The rest of the week was going to all the different exbits on the strip. As for expense. Hotel room for 7 day and nights along with rental car and air fare, food, and entertainment tickets ran me 2000 for two people. Which for everything I did was well worth it

97. Wayne P. - January 11, 2010

One of my favorite places on earth was to go to the Las Vegas Hilton and hang out at Quark’s Bar. Gosh, I sure do miss the Experience. I really hope that the “decision makers” get their heads out of their butt and re-open the Experience again soon.

98. Andy hudson - January 12, 2010

Hello
does anyone know if the experience is open or an estimated date?

Andy
sheffield, uk

99. Paulie Q - February 22, 2010

No. 97 Wayne P – same here. Hilton is very “ok” as far as a LV hotel, so without STTE there it’s basically a back alley gambling hall. Hold the ST convention at the Venetian or Bellagio – Star Trek fans do have Ca$h…

100. CAROL PARTAIN - March 16, 2010

WHEN IS THE EXPERIENCE GOING TO OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC. . THERE IS NOTHING BEING SAID OR DONE TO REOPEN IT.WHY::::::::::::::::::::::::::::CAROL PARTAIN GRANNYBALLS

101. Paul H - March 19, 2010

I heard that it has been shelved till 2012 or till the economey gets back on its feet. Either way I think it is done… Lets raise a glass and remember the good days and shead a tear or two for what we lost.

102. Corriveau - March 21, 2010

got married at STTE (Hilton) in June 2000 —- would be nice to be able to return to STTE (in its new iteration) this year —- I guess we’ll have to wait and see….

103. Jim - April 21, 2010

Was hoping to find some good news about STTE, I guess I’ll be waiting till ’12 to get back to quarks…

104. CAROL PARTAIN - April 28, 2010

WHEN AND WHERE IN VEGAS IS IT GOING TO REOPEN.????????????????????????WHAT IS GOING ON HERE.??????DOES ANYONE KNOW.??????CAROL PARTAIN

105. bernie - May 20, 2010

had a great time there a few years ago. What is going on? is it open or not? we are going back to Vegas in june!

106. ALLEN WRENCH - May 26, 2010

A lot of you may already know this, but TrekCast [ http://www.trekcast.com - or just search iTunes for Trekcast ] has GREAT news updates on Star Trek: The Experience, as well as extremely cool interviews with former employees and character actors.

It’s free and you can listen on your iPod, iPhone or your computer! This is a VERY cool source for STTE updates!!!

– ALLEN

107. CAROL PARTAIN - June 7, 2010

WHAT STILL NO NEWS ON THE REOPENING OF THE EXPERIENCE IN VEGAS? WHAT IS THE BIG GAME THAT THEY ARE PLAYING. DOES ANYONE KNOW?????????????????I WANT TO KNOW.

108. Bernie - June 10, 2010

Hey Carol, I am going on 6/10. i will try to get some info….I’d love to sit at Quarks again!!

109. Steve - July 7, 2010

I’ve been to the experience in Las Vegas several times since I only live 90
miles away and I couldn’t get enough of it. I sure miss it would like to know
more about the new transition. Maybe I’m not looking hard enough, but I
can’t seem to find out any info.

110. p.h. - July 31, 2010

Well here it is Aug1 st well in a few hours and still nothing is heard about the reopening yet. I guess it is a mute point now. I still havent got over the closing yet, when things got bad like now I would just close my eyes and say I will be there soon and then have the energy to go on till I actualy got there to have fun and unwind. And when I returned I will be whole and able to take on the world again. Now I have not got that any more, besides that imagine how much money they are losing having nothing there in the spot where she used to be. Any way just me feeling bad that there is not even hope that it MIGHT open some day. Good bye good friend miss you so much rest in piece.

111. iBorg13 - August 16, 2010

As I live in New Zealand (a long and expensive way from LA) I have never had the privilage of visiting this place. Howre opening Iever I have dreamed of it. When I found out it was so happy! This time I’ll BE THERE

112. John - August 20, 2010

Well, we’re in the year 2010. When and where, are they going to open? Someone told me, they’re not going to.

113. Jamey - October 12, 2010

It’s October 2010 and I want to plan a trip to Vegas. But not until The Experience re-opens. Any word?

114. CAROL PARTAIN - November 3, 2010

WHEN AND WHERE WILL IT REOPEN>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>?????????????????????CAROL PARTAIN ONTARIO, CA

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