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ST09 Tidbits (T-2): 2 Kirks On Video + More Interviews + Onion’s Take on Trekkies + more May 5, 2009

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Great Links,Star Trek (2009 film) , trackback

In this two days to go Tidbits we have video of the meeting of the two Kirks plus lots of other video interviews with Orci & Kurtzman, JJ Abrams, and Chris Pine and Zach Quinto. Plus we have some news on how Trekkies see this new movie (from the Onion’s point of view) a look at some new reviews and more.


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The meeting of the Kirks
The Shatner project has just put up a short video of the exact moment that William Shatner and Chris Pine met at the Charity Horse Show Dinner a couple weeks ago.

Trekkies Bash New Star Trek As ‘Fun, Watchable’
The Onion has some breaking news on how Trek fans are reacting to the new Star Trek movie. 

Trekkies Bash New Star Trek Film As ‘Fun, Watchable’

Bob and Alex talk Trek and give tips on breaking in
A couple of new video interviews with Trek scribes Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman. First is this one from our friends at

Alex Kurtzman & Bob Orci Interview – Star Trek from on Vimeo.

Time has a bit of a tongue in cheek video visit to Bob and Alex’s office:

click to see video at

Review Watch – two views from the MSM
So far the reviews for Star Trek have been very positive (still with a 100% rating at RT), but he bulk of the mainstream media reviews should start dropping in the next couple of days. There are a couple of new media reviews woth noting. First up is a very postive review from the Boston Globe which gives the movie four out of four stars, noting:

“Star Trek” – a.k.a. “Star Trek XI,” a.k.a. “Star Trek the Franchise Reboot” – approaches the late Gene Roddenberry’s original science fiction world not on bended knee but with fresh eyes, a spring in its step, and the understanding that we know these people better than they know themselves. Indeed, much of the vast pleasure of this movie comes from characters suddenly discovering things about each other that we learned watching TV four decades ago. There are flaws to pick at in terms of story line and other matters, but that can wait until the glow has faded. In the pop high it delivers, this is the greatest prequel ever made.

However the AP review gives the film 2.5 out of four stars with the reviewer having issues with the time travel plot:

A major plot twist pops up — which includes the arrival of Leonard Nimoy — about halfway through the film, a twist that doesn’t exactly work and from which the film never completely recovers.

I think we will see more of these kinds of reviews mixed in with all the glowing ones. Even with all the new stuff, this film still is about Star Trek and time travel can be confusing to some people who are not steeped in the genre, and if you don’t ‘get it’, it may be hard to understand what is going on with Nero and the elder Spock. Hopefully this group remain the minority in the mainstream media critics…we will know in a couple of days. Of course for Trek fans, we are trained to understand time travel so this won’t be much of an issue.

TV/ Video interviews

JJ Abrams on Colbert Report

The Colbert Report Mon – Thurs 11:30pm / 10:30c
J.J. Abrams
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MySpace ‘artist on artist’ interview with Chris Pine and Zach Quinto interviewing each other:

Artist on Artist: Star Trek

Collider has a 2 part video interview with Simon Pegg, part 1 is below (part 2 at

JJ Abrams on Opie & Anthony

Chris Pine on MTV

The Trek stars are fanning across the talk shows and TV stations, here are the latest videos. Tune in for these upcoming appearances:

Finally: Don’t F*** It Up
The following NOT SAFE FOR WORK song by RTD Studios gives a plea to JJ Abrams and crew to not ‘f*** up’ Star Trek:


Tidbits bits
Even more Star Trek stuff for you:

Florida Trek fans in the wild


Thanks to all the tipsters


1. Nodar08 - May 5, 2009


2. Nodar08 - May 5, 2009

that onion news video is priceless

3. Hawaiowa - May 5, 2009


4. S. John Ross - May 5, 2009

Pine’s smile was a big ol’ nervous smile :)

And if the movie is half as good as that Onion video, I’ll be happy.

5. John Hazard - May 5, 2009

“We are trained to understand time travel”? I think you mean we’re used to accepting it- whether it makes sense or not.

It’s great that the movie is still 100% at, but the one thing all the less-than-100% reviews has in common is a problem with the thin plot, in particular the time travel. Hopefully NewTrek will learn from this and ditch it in the future.

Didn’t we learn anything from the “Temporal Cold War”?

6. Harry Ballz - May 5, 2009

How tall is Pine anyway? Shatner is, what, 5’10″? Pine towered over him!

7. sean - May 5, 2009


8. JMAN - May 5, 2009

#6 – Nope, Shatner is 5’9 1/2, according to IMDB… and I think that’s actually generous. Pine is 6’1.

9. gigshaft - May 5, 2009

Speaking as a die-hard fan, I find the Onion piece utterly hilarious.

10. Crusade2267 - May 5, 2009

I love the end of the song! Leonard Nimoy won’t F*** it up!

11. Capt Mike of the Terran Empire - May 5, 2009

Seen J.J on the Cobert Report last night. I think they almost look like Twins. But it was very funny and entertaining. Trek Minus 2 days and 3hours and 50 minutes.

12. The Happy Klingon - May 5, 2009

“And in further news an elderly black woman continues to follow President Obama around, shedding a single tear every time he says something…”
Wow, the onion is truly equal opportunity.
Great video.

13. Jim - May 5, 2009

The onion always gets a laugh out of me! haha.

14. THX-1138 - May 5, 2009

I think The Shat is…ermm…not as tall as he used to be. Getting close to 80 can do that.

I have to admit that I got a bit giggity when Pine and Shatner first met. Weird, huh?

15. marvin - May 5, 2009

the VERY BEST thing about new trek is that shatner is not in it

16. Tiberius1000 - May 5, 2009

If it the Films biggest problem how long it can hold a 100% rating, we can be really happy!

17. rayjay - May 5, 2009

Another MSM source, the New York Daily News gave the movie the highest rating – five stars

18. Pragmaticus - May 5, 2009

6 – Well Shatner is old. He’s shrinking.

19. Captain Hackett - May 5, 2009

Orlando Sun-Sentinel has given the movie four stars.,0,1222432.story

20. Ryan - May 5, 2009

“A major plot twist pops up — which includes the arrival of Leonard Nimoy — about halfway through the film, a twist that doesn’t exactly work and from which the film never completely recovers.”

Translation: “I couldn’t understand it. Therefore, everyone else can’t and that makes the rest of the movie is bad.”

Serioulsly, I know everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, but c’mon. At least tell us why it doesn’t work, i.e. too complicated, too contrived. The movie isn’t about Spock traveling back through time, so why should it ruin the rest of the movie?

21. Allister gourlay - May 5, 2009

Man that Onion film was totally brilliant!

22. SciFiGeek - May 5, 2009

6. Shatner is 5 9″ tall. Chis Pine is 6 exact. I met him at the London Premiere.

23. S. John Ross - May 5, 2009

#20: Reading the entire review, I think it’s clear that the reviewer _did_ understand it.

24. Pasty - May 5, 2009

I’m going to see the movie tomorrow night! I can’t believe that I checked this site nearly ervery day the for last three years and in 24 hours it’s all going to be over. Wow, it’s been…. fun.

25. ProperTrekkieUK - May 5, 2009

I cant help but feel sorry for the guy who did tha AP Review….surely he must be sitting down thinking to himself “damn…everyone else thought it was great, I only gave it 2, they all gave it 4 or 5…was I even watching the same film…guy had claws right? Was Star Trek set in the 80s…the Captain Picard arrived in a helicopter and saved them all….that was Star Trek wasn’t it?”

Seriously…he is in very little company with such a bad review, is…weird!

26. george matthias - May 5, 2009

You can see how nervous Pine is when he meets Shatner, he pulls an expression you never see in the film…real trepidation lol.

27. Andros - May 5, 2009

Also, speaking of reviews I laughed when I went to the official site and saw this reviewer’s name.

“‘Star Trek’ is finally cool.”

“This generation’s ‘Star Wars.’”

– Kirk Montgomery, KNBC

28. Closettrekker - May 5, 2009

How about that Boston Globe?

“the best prequel ever made”

“ridiculously satisfying”

And of course—“I just about wept with joy, and I’m not even a Trekkie.”

I never dreamed I would ever read such things from mainstream media about a Star Trek movie. This is surreal.

29. Dr. Image - May 5, 2009

As a purist, I too declare that the Onion video is utterly………………. BRILLIANT!!

30. S. John Ross - May 5, 2009

#24: “I only gave it 2, they all gave it 4 or 5″

He gave it a 2.5, not a 2, and he didn’t have the option to give it a 5; he’s rating on a 4-star system.

I’m baffled why people here consider it a “bad” review when generally, 62.5% of the rating scale is considered a good (if not glowing) score for a film. For comparison, Rotten Tomatoes counts a review as “Fresh” if it’s 60% of the rating scale … so if this film were included in the RT count (I haven’t checked to see if it is), it would be flagged “Fresh” and contribute to – not detract from – the film’s current 100% RT rating.

… And if you read some of the growing library of “Fresh” reviews at RT, you’ll see that a lot of them praise the movie but with similar reservations and complaints thrown in. The AP guy isn’t the odd man out; he’s just one of the lower voices harmonizing in the chorus, is all.

Speaking of happy critic numbers, I note that the film’s average rating at RT just edged upward from 78% of scale to 79% of scale … that officially edges it over Wrath of Khan for the moment. If it holds _that_ score, that’ll be much more impressive than the big 100% in many ways.

People calling it a “bad review” aren’t paying attention; it’s a review that has a lot in common with many of the other reviews out there.

31. SciFiMetalGirl - May 5, 2009

I saw JJ on Jimmy Kimmel with another new clip that I hadn’t seen before! JJ was awesome! I especially liked the part where he talked about the beer factory, it was excellent!

32. ety3 - May 5, 2009

The Onion rocks.

33. strangelove - May 5, 2009

off topic

look at those, just like out of the Old Show:)
nice, JJ;-D i love you for that retrostyle phaser and tricorder:)

34. SChaos1701 - May 5, 2009

The Onion is dead on…lol.

35. ster julie - May 5, 2009

That “Artist on Artist” clip was probably the best footage I’ve seen so far–outside the movie itself, of course, which I won’t see until Friday, and Saturday, and Sunday…

36. Closettrekker - May 5, 2009

I actually didn’t think the AP review was bad. It sounds as if the time travel element tripped this guy up, but aside from that part of the story, he basically praises the film the rest of the way.

I don’t know what else he chooses to rate 2.5 out of 4, so it is hard to put into context.

But I still don’t feel like I’ve read a poor review. So….the story has some weak spots? There are contrivances and odd conveniences? No….. It’s a Star Trek movie!!!! Give me a break. The fact that the usual suspects are not yet pounding on it is a near miracle.

This isn’t Schindler’s List, Patton, or The Godfather Part II. It was never going to be.

37. ProperTrekkieUK - May 5, 2009

@ 29 – I didn’t really want to split hairs over .5 of a mark but ok, and as for the out of 4 or 5…does it really matter…was a joke! I love people who so easily fit into Fruedian psycological stages!

Was just a joke!

On another note, just bought the Star Trek soundtrack off iTunes, is good! Should help with my humanitarian intervention essay!

38. TrekMadeMeWonder - May 5, 2009

Ahh ha, see. I almost read this article.

Tried to lurer me in with that crappy Shatner/Pine first meeting video.
Oh well, at least I can appreciate the”historic” moment caght on film. Surely was not the photo op it could have been.

Still waiting on Friday.

So, do we all hate the AP review?

39. S. John Ross - May 5, 2009

#35 “[…] he basically praises the film the rest of the way.”

Yeah, it’s basically a thumbs-up.

40. Leyla - May 5, 2009

Speaking of iTunes, anyone knows if the audiobook will be available? I couldn’t see the preorder on any European website and I’m quite peeved!

41. strangelove - May 5, 2009


here is the link:

42. Colin - May 5, 2009

Where’s the Onion vid? It’s *seriously* funny.

43. Smitty™ - May 5, 2009

Chris and Zach Artist On Artist, kind of a new version of Mind Meld!


44. Colin - May 5, 2009

ignore @42, sorry, page came up without comments (again)…

45. Michael - May 5, 2009


Some augmented reality for the rest of you non-ARG players.

46. IBScott - May 5, 2009

Alex said he likes the West Wing. I very badly want to see “Articles of the Federation” on screen.

47. Cobalt 1365 - May 5, 2009

Haha, Onion news report is priceless. They are setting the standard for modern journalistic reporting

48. DavidJ - May 5, 2009


I agree time travel is overused in Trek, but in this case I think it’s a necessary evil. It’s the quickest, most straightforward way to create a new, TOS-era timeline that isn’t weighed down by 40 years of canon.

And as far as weak spots in the movie, even the BEST movies still have some of those (the bat-voice in TDK anyone?).

49. marvin - May 5, 2009

you guys may want to check this out.

:) enjoy

50. Karl Smyth - May 5, 2009

Just back from a preview screening of “Star Trek”. I know this’ll get lost in the sea of reviews, but it is fantastic! A visual and aural stunner, all the actors are perfectly cast and as at least a dozen reviews have stated, at the end of a very fast two hours and six minutes, you just want more! Roll on number two! Or is that number twelve?

51. SPOCKBOY - May 5, 2009

the average body shrinks one inch every ten years after the age of forty.
Shatner is almost eighty!
: )
The onion was brilliant!

52. Devon - May 5, 2009

#49 – Where did you find that?

53. Lt. Bailey - May 5, 2009

Well, well, well….Chris Pine meets the real Cpt Kirk.

Chris may create his own take on Kirk, it does not matter as I am quite sure he will do a fine job to further the ST legend. In my opinion, there will always be only one Cpt Kirk (actor) who could pull off that character/style/bravado/swagger that would make him the ICON he is and that is the Shat himself.

54. Mike in Iowa - May 5, 2009

The interview with Orci and Kurtzman is really insightful. And at nearly thirty minutes, it takes some time to delve into how these guys think. Well done.

Also, the Pegg interview from Collider shows just how smart Simon is … another great inteview and definitely worth the ten minutes. I highly recommend going back and watching both (to those of you who skipped them because of length).

And, of course, the Onion and Colbert pieces … absolutely brilliant.

Thanks, Anthony and crew, for such a great news source! This blog rocks.

55. Capt Krunch - May 5, 2009

Kirk on Kirk/// fascinating….Pine is considerably taller…

Off the subject…the Family Guy//Trek love affair…
I just caught the episode where Peter and Lois are on the cruise ship..Stewie kills Lois and Peter is on trail for her he is sentenced ,Lois walks in the courtroom to everyones surprise…and points to Stewie as her murder…the episode ” to be continued” comes up with the music from TNG “Best of Bothe Worlds” and the blue TNG font appears…I didn’t catch it at first but there it was… Seth does like Trek!…

56. Brett Campbell - May 5, 2009

15 – Your opinion, of course. It is NOT shared by a HUGE number of fans.

57. Kalashnikov - May 5, 2009

Is that journalism?!?! The woman pivot not even did a proper research to comment to film. Star Trek created “way back in the forties or something”…? And I find some of the this she said highly offensive to all treekies.

She must be doing the director of ONN or something to have a job in a news channel.

58. Unbel1ever - May 5, 2009

I thought, Colbert was funny. ONN was a little to much Trekkie bashing and clichè for my taste. It plays for the “all fans of Star Trek are stupid, but they won’t watch this one anyway, since it is only for us normal people”.
Well, at least we do have something to be passionate about.

I still think, that it was a mistake to try an tie this new Star Trek to the old one. Say it’s a parallel universe or whatever and leave all this time travel stuff out.
The fans would be happy, because the Trek lore would have been untouched. The mainstream would not have cared, especially since time travelling/alternate universes is not something they can make hands or tails of anyway.

59. Brad - May 5, 2009

Bob!! Wake up!!!! LoL. You look so tired in the interview! I’m sure you guys are exhausted, but you look really zoned out. Funny stuff and great interview though.

60. Trekkie16 - May 5, 2009

I saw the movie and I enjoyed it. Chris Pine is great as Kirk and I really enjoyed the chemistry between him and Quinto. I loved Bruce Greenwood as Pike and I hope they bring him back for the next movie.
I have quite a few thoughts about this movie; some things I really loved about it and some things that well….I will be curious to read everyones comments after the movie is released to see if it jives with my thoughts.

61. Uhura's Eyeshadow - May 5, 2009

57. Can’t tell if you’re serious…. That line was a part of the joke

62. The Original Animated Next Generation Deep Space Voyager Enterprise - May 5, 2009


“Your opinion, of course. It is NOT shared by a HUGE number of fans.”

Well, shame on that huge number of fans then. I for one am with 15 ;)

63. Lennier - May 5, 2009

57: Uh… are you kidding? ‘Cause it seems that you can’t tell that they are…

64. Christine - May 5, 2009

The Onion is so dumb. xD I’m sorry, that was actually really insulting to me, but it was just so darned hilarious. (Not that I don’t love that…. very… slow… choreographed…. fight scene between Kirk and the Gorn.) A little too much “ouch!” on Trekkies and Shatner (aww! ouch!!!!) but still quite funny.

The sad thing? I’ve seen a lot of those “complaints” from the so-called “purists” here. They’re halfway legitimate.

65. ChaosProphet - May 5, 2009

Re: The Time Magazine video

I loved seeing that Peeping Tom poster in Orci and Kurtzman’s office.
I hope they have that up there because they are actual fans of the film and not just because the poster looks cool.

Peeping Tom is definitely among my top ten favorite 60s films.


66. Leonel - May 5, 2009

That Onion “review” is probably my among my favorite reviews so far! Brilliant. Loved the interview too.

Respectfully, up until this point I haven’t sat through any entire interview of the writers and of JJ Abrams, mainly because of the many ways that “cast and crew are great” have been reported on this site. There are only so many different ways to rephrase that.

Having said that, I’m glad I waited this long to listen to a complete interview. It is refreshing to hear 22 minutes into the clip (and again at 28 minutes) what has inspired the Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman pair. Each movie they listed is among my many favorites, and hearing them explain what they see as a common denominator among them — a single, emotional idea — gives me final reassurance that we’re all in for one HELL of a ride.

Can’t.. wait..!! :-)

67. Chingatchkook - May 5, 2009

The Onion is brilliant as usual. I think that their editorial cartoon deserves mention too:

‘Heaven’s Engineer’, pretty cool IMHO.

68. Iowagirl - May 5, 2009

Yes, his intimidated facial expression made me take an immediate liking to him. :D

I’ve nothing to add. :)

69. Jake2k - May 5, 2009

The onion was report was Frikin Hilarious!!!

70. Smitty™ - May 5, 2009

@57 The Onion is a ‘newspaper’ now a website that parodies the news!


71. Phil 123 - May 6, 2009

Onion is fantastic. I look forward to the extended “Diplomantic Edition” of the film!

Loved Pegg. I never knew he was such a Trekkie, always knew he loved Star Wars. Felt bad for him that the prequels ruined the series for him. It’s easy not being a die hard Star Wars fan, I can enjoy the last couple of prequels, but totally get why Die-hards were so disappionted.

Seeing the movie tomorrow, and I can’t wait!! IMAX!!

72. Holger - May 6, 2009

I like the Vulcan woman in the Trekker photo series.

73. Gary - May 6, 2009

Cool Village Voice comic:

74. Locke for President - May 6, 2009

Regarding the schedule for guest appearance of Star Trek actors on talk shows:

I think I heard in Fallon’s interview with JJ Abrams that he’s going to have both Spock actors, together, on Friday. Did I hear that right, and can we get confirmation of this? That will be a cool interview.

Makes me wonder if we’ll see a tag-team Spock interview on any of the other shows. That is must-see TV for Trek fans.

75. JP Saylor - May 6, 2009

Chris: I’m Chris Pine!

Shat: Chris!

*The Shat roundhouse kicks Chris*


I can’t wait till the new movie!!!!

76. Kalashnikov - May 6, 2009

#61, #63 and #70 – I thought that it was a real news broadcast channel, but I guess it’s my fault I really have a bad impression of american journalism except for “60 minutes”.

77. VOODOO - May 6, 2009

Pretty cool!!

Lets hope we get to see both Kirk’s in the next “Star Trek” film.

78. Spockish - May 6, 2009

Do you think Pine will ever be able to climb as high up on the mountain as the Shat has.

The best I can say is it is sure worth a try and if he slips just keep trying again and again, and just remember arrogance and playing king of the hill only makes your crew think less of you.

79. Will Johnson - May 6, 2009

JJ’s quote about making a “good movie” and not a “Star Trek” movie reminds me of Stuart Baird’s comments about Nemesis not being a Star Trek movie but being an “action movie.”

80. Mark Lynch - May 6, 2009

#79 And we all know how Nemesis turned out….

But with all these positive reviews, I do not think this movie will do badly at the box office. Is it Star Trek though? Guess I will know after I see it.

81. Holger - May 7, 2009

79 Will Johnson: I’ve seen the movie yesterday. The Nemesis comparison does come to mind; I don’t mean box office success, but quality.

82. illogical - May 7, 2009

Interesting watching Zach and Chris talking together – Nimoy and Shat always had such great chemistry off screen being close friends. Nice to see the evident camaraderie here as well. is represented by Gorilla Nation. Please contact Gorilla Nation for ad rates, packages and general advertising information.