ST09 Tidbits (T+1): Presidential Trek + Nimoy Top 10 + Interviews + more May 8, 2009
by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Great Links, Star Trek (2009 film) , trackback
The Star Trek movie is out, but the Tidbits keep on coming and so we keep reporting. Today we have news the President wants to get his Trek on. Also you can check out Leonard Nimoy doing a Trekkified Top 10. Plus premiere night fan videos, lots of interviews, and more. So dive in to the opening day Tidbits.
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Obama wants his Trek viewing
The day after he was elected TrekMovie outed President Obama, and since then the mainstream press have picked up on it as well, and now in an article titled ‘Trekkie in chief wants screening‘ the Politco is reporting that The President wants his own screening of Star Trek at the White House. The Politico story notes how Obama has often been compared to Vulcans due to his ‘no drama’ demeanor, and even quotes Leonard Nimoy regarding meeting Obama on a couple of occasions. The last known Presidential screening of a Trek film at the White House was Star Trek III for President Reagan in 1984.
In more political/Star Trek, the Deputy Editor of US News and World Report (who happens to be a Trekkie) sends in links to a couple of new opinion piece in the magazine:
- Robert Schlesinger: Star Trek marks a shift in the national mood
- James Pinkerton: "Star Trek Review: Who Would Captain James T. Kirk vote for? JFK, of Course.
TV Guide’s Big Movie Premiere 30 minute show
The TV Guide channel has a half our show dedicated to Star Trek including interviews. Worth watching.
Nimoy reads the top 10
Leonard Nimoy was on last night’s Late Show With David Letterman, here is the top 10:
Opening night video
Reelz Channel was at the Arclight opening of Trek and got some fan comments
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Interviews
Chris Pine on CBS
John Cho on Jimmy Kimmel
Nimoy with Collider
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Talk show list updated –
The Trek stars are fanning across the talk shows and TV stations, here are the latest videos. Tune in for these upcoming appearances:
- Friday 5/8: "Jimmy Kimmel Live" (ABC) – Chris Pine
- Friday 5/8: "Tavis Smiley" (PBS) – JJ Abrams
- Friday 5/8: "Late Night With Jimmy Fallon" (NBC) – Leonard Nimoy & Zachary Quinto
Finally: All of Star Trek Voyager in two minutes
Need to catch up on Voyager…watch all of it in two minutes:
Tidbits bits
Even more Star Trek stuff for you:
- Philadelphia Inquirer article on Star Trek collecting (quoting our own John Tenuto)
- Newsweek has a great narrated rare photo essay about the history of Star Trek conventions
- The UK’s Sunday Mirror will include a free copy of the special souvenir issue of Star Trek Magazine
- Google announced they are excited about ‘a certain movie’ and so they have modified Google Calendars to include stardates
Google Stardates
Thanks to all the tipsters
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If you would like to see Karl Urban interviewed tune into the “Attack of the Show” weekly recap rerun.
I’m first? everyone else must be at the movies…
On G4, sorry.
At the Theatre I saw it in tonight the threate was half full, and same goes for the showing 2 hours later, I’m told. Pretty good in this economy against other films. Did about as good on Opening Day as Titanic did – which wasn’t all that great. But word-of-mouth beyond the ad blitz saved Titanic.
No real disappointments. The changes in everything including timeline and ship design were pretty well explained. Did seem to have the Starship Troopers look and feel. D.C. Fontana was indeed channeled. No “classic” music until the end credits. Much of the script was “fanboyish.” Execution of the editing was both complex and impressive. Too tightly trimmed in some areas. Give it 4 out of 5 stars (previous high for any Star Trek movie: 3 of 5). Not quite up to the “Get Smart” movie from last summer or Gran Torino from last winter, but nonetheless a movie very much worth seeing, and enjoyable for both the veteran and virgin Star Trek audience.
Where’s Science Friday? That’s why I’m really here! (no joke!)
Anthony, I sure hope you have some holidays booked in the next while, you deserve them!!
“We’ve just hit a goose!” Haha…awesome.
John–
Get Smart? Really? That movie was a piece of shit. Hey everyone–isn’t it amazing how easy it is to discredit someone’s opinion about a film when they cite what they think is a good movie in their post, but the rest of us know that the “good” movie suck’s? That’s John’s post to a “T.”
I just thought that I’d let everyone know that I posted a review for the film in the TrekMovie film review boards. The review is organized in the following manner:
First Paragraph: My initial mixed feelings going in and my very positive feelings coming out and what I liked about the film including an interesting personal connection that I made to the film.
Second Paragraph is about what I disliked about the film which is the premise of a reboot/alternate reality. That is discussed in more detail in the review.
The Final Section of the review is a complex breakdown of scores, starting with scoring each aspect of the film and the final score which is an average of the scores listed. I will post my final score here and hopefully everyone will read my review for more details.
Final Score: 8.4 out of 10. Not the best Trek ever, for gripes discussed in my review, but still an excellent one. (Final Score is computed by average of scores.)
#7 – I don’t know what you’re complaining about. I’m not into Sci-Fi and it did remind me of just as much a remake of “Starship Troopers” as “Star Trek.” Throw in a little Star Wars in the bar scene and with the furry big-eyed forrest creatures that befriend Scotty and you can almost see an inspiration of Star Wars, as well as Terminator in the RoboCop. For someone who really hates most Sci-Fi, that means that I have a different standard upon which movies are judged and once I figured out {SPOILER} that the change in the timeline happens 3 or 4 decades before TOS either in the form of THE CAGE or TOS come into being, then the progressive changes by the time we see our starship and the Universe around Star Trek are easier to explain. Once it becomes easy to dismiss the years we know as Star Trek series and movies as lost but in the memory of a prior river in time, then it becomes exciting to imagine what will come in its place. Will there be a “Prime Directive?” Will THIS version of the Enterprise be shot at by an F-104 over 1967 Omana, or was that reserved for just the “other” one. Which version of the Enterprise-E would go back in time to visit Zeffram Cochrane and to stop the Borg? These are great questions which don’t have an easy answer in the movie. Trust me, it was a great movie – especially on the heels of Nemesis despite the similar appearances and contrievances.
#8 – congrats! I can’t even get that page to load, but it’s probably being overused at the moment. i look forward to your review!
Hooray for the Trekkie-in-Chief!
What’s the matter with you Letterman??? You’re an idiot, that’s what!! I can’t stand him! Leonard Nimoy should have kicked Letterman in the genitalia for screwing up his name, and mentioning Star Wars in the same room.
My total fav was Chekov. Anton did an amazing job. I thought my fav was going to be McCoy but I was wrong. I loved it it was great.
movie was awesome. I’ve seen it 3 times so far.
The Jim Pinkerton article was somewhat surprising. While the perspective he takes is nothing new, it is unexpected coming from Mr. Pinkerton. He is definitely no “lefty hippie liberal”.
Mr. Pascale, get ready for PC right-wing blowhards that overreact to the slightest and most benign of political commentary.
#14 – Three times so far? Wow, I don’t think I’ve seen any Star Trek movie 3 times except for Galaxy Quest! I did enjoy Chris Doohan – the Assistant Transporter Officer. It was really hard for me to figure out who was supposed to be Scotty when I saw those two together. Simon has many of the same mannerisms and characterics (yet so far as I can tell, all 10 fingers) but still, Chris must have been on the set saying “deja vu” when operating the transporter with Simon.
Dave: Star Wars, starring James Blatner.
#15 … I didn’t even get the hint of politics anywhere in the movie. I did strongly object to Nimoy’s politically motivated complaints that he sees the young Kirk as Obama and thought Obama should have had this Star Trek movie more closely timed to his inaguration … in short, the only blowhards relevant to this movie so far as I can tell so far are lefties in Hollywood. But I never judge a character in a movie by its actor.
#4: “Much of the script was “fanboyish.””
I agree. I enjoyed the film; I thought it was exciting and fun and I was genuinely surprised at how well a couple of the emotional bits worked (especially the opening one, which shouldn’t, by any rights, have affected me at all but it sure as heck did; got me weepy right from the start).
… But man, there were times when it felt like it was constructed from hyper-fannish checklists of in-jokes and obligatory nods draped in the warm melted cheese of you’ve-GOT-to-be-kidding-me dialogue cliches. The plot and dialogue both danced a razor-thin line between outright parody and … subtler parody.
This made certain performances stand out, though … I 100% believed that Zoe Saldana’s Uhura was a real, living, and admirable person, for example, which is just incredible considering what her lines would look like on paper, before she brought them to life. I felt the same way about Montgomery Scott … despite knowing going in that he was basically comic relief, I felt that his performance had equal measures of humor and real, human grounding (and again, measuring this against the material he was working with, and the end result is that Simon Pegg is now a deity to me … he was funny before but now he’s frickin’ Olivier). Similarly, Eric Bana brought genuine conviction to a part that, without his contributions, would have been a cypher, a second-rate fanfic Khan knockoff complete with bugs that burrow to the brain.
I know it sounds like I’m daming the film with faint praise, but really I’m trying to damn it with sincere and somewhat gushy praise.
#19 … agreed! Okay, they moved Delta Vega about 50 light years. I think I will be talking about Wynona Rider’s and Simon Pegg’s performances (as well as Bruce Greenwood’s) for some time. The “tribute to TOS” contrievances that ironically didn’t seem “fanboyish” to me were the 2 direct rips from D.C. Fontana’s “Yesteryear,” and the fact that the Spock that we see in this film mostly comes straight out of her novel “Vulcan’s Glory.” In the case of “Vulcan’s Glory, Spock was “tripped” by the death of his Vulcan lover on the ship, and not by … I can’t even bring myself to say it.
#20: Oh, you’re right, too; shame on me for not mentioning Greenwood, in particular … Greenwood’s peformance provides the voice for the film in many ways (props to Wynona Rider, but she had so little screen time … uh, for whatever reason … that it was a darn shame).
And I think I just isolated what made Pegg’s Scotty feel absolutely real to me: it was his performances when the shite hit the proverbial fan (not to be confused with the shite hitting the proverbial fans) … Even though some of his lines, at that point, were clearly meant to bring a little levity to a scary moment, everything physical in his performance, everything his face was doing, everything his voice was doing, was genuine distress … He looked frightened, he looked frustrated, and he looked determined, absolutely determined, to set it right, to get his job done and keep the ship flying. His physical _reactions_ to crisis, more than anything (certainly more than explodey FX or toss-off nonsense about red matter) made the crisis real for me, and that made Scotty real for me.
(And lest people think I’m picking on the screenwriters, I consider this film something of a a vindication for them, since it’s proof positive that they _don’t_ write sluggish Michael Bay movies … they write scripts with Michael Bay turns _into_ sluggish Michael Bay movies)
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Mr. Sullivan, I should have been clearer. I was refering to political commentary on this site and not the movie itself.
However, Captain Pike does refer to the Federation as a peacekeeping and humanitarian organization. That sounds like a UN type mission statement.
Saw it for the second time – Not as intense as the first…but could be because it was just yesterday.
Still love the Kobyashi Maru sequence and the way Pine is sitting at the end of the film. – Both of these speak original kirk to me. Something about the way he wrapped things up with the test and got up out of the chair was so familiar and perfect.
During the Kobyashi Maru test my mom shouted: KLINGONS!
it´s just me or anyone else went crazy when the D7´s appeared in the simulation?
Loving every minute of being a Trek fan since 1990!
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If you watch Letterman, you know that that’s his style of comedy. Jeeze, calm down son.
Letterman’s style of comedy STINKS! He’s a hack and a very lucky one at that!
finally saw the movie today , still in shock since i have been waiting like 3 years for this , well i love it . Have to see it at least 3 times more . This movie will be a big hit anyway thats for sure, and yes i know there will be another one ! . at least i know where to come for all the details if they make a sequal ! i love you trekmovie.com !
LEGIT QUESTION:
ok if someone can answer this for me, I will feel ALOT better about this movie, as this is the largest plot hole that I could find: Why does Nero not try to prevent the destruction of Romulus from happening once he is back in the past??? Why instead does he waste his time getting revenge when he can just contact Spock and tell him to shoot the red matter into the star just a few mins earlier ??
It was very interesting to hear my wife’s reaction to the film tonight. My wife really enjoyed Chekov, Sulu and Kirk. And she thought that although McCoy and Scotty were very good, they didn’t give them enough time in the spotlight.
Me? I thought is was all very good. Unlike my wife, I liked the unusual romantic twist in the film.
And without unleashing any spoilers, I am very satisfied with the new turn of events with Pike. Wow, 44 years, and now this….
Live long, prosper, and keep hang’n and bang’n!
#29: Beats me, but not much in the Nero side of the story makes sense to me (possibly because of all the cut scenes). A related question: after 25 years with Romulans on a big ship, is there a new generation of little Romulans onboard being raised offscreen? If not, why not (are post-apocalyptic Romulans devoid of sex drives or family-making drives? do Romulans have a 35-year gestation period? did Nero have each newborn Romulan secretly shuttle-dropped onto a Romulan colony so it could be raised with a more normal life in the old Empire and his crew could stay angry instead of settling down and getting maternal/paternal?) If so, how does that color the already-maybe-muddy morality of the resolution?
29 – because the supernova won’t happen for another 150 years and because he’s hellbent on revenge over the death of his wife, unborn child, and his entire race.
#27
Totally agree!
lol #31 those are minor issues compared to my question, but still good points
and #32 you’re right… it wont happen for another 150 years…. so that gives him plenty of time to prevent it from happening right?? Instead of getting “revenge” for the death of his race, he could prevent the whole thing from happening in the first place!!! All he has to do is sit spock down and explain to him how it goes down…. problem solved.
I loved alot of what they did in this movie, but the stuff around the villain makes no sense
So were the eel/worm things put in Pike not similar-looking to the ones in TNG’s Conspiracy. They even entered through his mouth (unlike Khan’s Ceti eels). I say this because otherwise the scene felt unnecessary. Could Nero have tracked them down? Could Pike therefore be the start of another really boring invasion? Mark my words, he’ll be scarfing down mealworms in no time. Could putting a just-graduated cadet in charge of the Federation’s flagship be part of their evil wormy/eely plan?
I’m scared. That episode was so lame.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/startrek/images/d/d2/Parasite.jpg
star trek made 25 m on friday~
Letterman is an……wait for it…..Blow-hard creep.
29- Nero had to wait for Spock 20 years later to capture his ship and get the red matter. Then at that point he was so focused on revenge he went straight to Vulcan. Plus I imagined he thought they were invincible and of course had a lot of time (129 years) to get to it! Just my take on it.
# 39: right…. he waits the 20 years for Spock to come back…… once Spock is back, he can then tell Spock what to do in order to prevent Romulus from being destroyed. Would this not be more helpful than trying to destroy all the federation planets ?? And by the way… he shouldnt have any grudge against the FEDERATION (as opposed to Spock) as a whole at all…. and even Spock was only trying to help….
One of the Top Ten lines should have been.
“Captain, we can’t do that. It’s not canon.”
Nero’s behavior isn’t well thought out because he’s fundamentally different from most Star Trek villians. He isn’t terribly bright.
This is hinted at several times in the movie. From his “unsophisticated” speech patterns to his poor grasp of science, it is clear that this bad guy doesn’t quite have the candle power of a Khan or Chang. He’s not a general, admiral, dictator, or mad scientist. These are usual suspects when it comes to Trek antagonists. And they’re usually portrayed as clever and complex.
In contrast, Nero’s just a thuggish miner with a big drill (and a vendetta against Spock). He gets what he wants through brute force. Personally, I like the fact that we’re getting a different kind of villian in this movie. Star Trek villians have always been a little too suave for their own good. By the end of TNG, you even had them giving the “evil plan” exposition scene a la James Bond.
The top ten lines video won’t play in the UK – maybe someone over there would be kind enough to transcribe them?
SPOILER
What happens to spock in the end? he just..walks off? Does he go back to his own time?
#44: The implication of his dialogue at the end (the bit about being in two places at the same time) was that he’d be helping Vulcan rebuild, in the new timeline.
REMINDER FOR UK
‘BRING BACK STAR TREK’ – TONIGHT AT 9 ON CHANNEL 4
Hey thanks for the post! Very interesting to see the TV Guide about Star Trek!
So TREK made $26m on Friday in addition to the $7m Thursday sales. Adds up to $33m compared to (I think) $35m for wolverine.
http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/star-trek-adds-another-26-million-how-high-will-it-boldly-go
So I think we will fall a bit short of wolverines $85m but word-of-mouth and the passionate trekkie-multiple-viewers should ensure that Trek has more legs in the US at least. Overseas wolverine will certainly do better. But overall enough for a sequel and for making CBS thinking of calling JJ!
OO STAR TREK DOCUMENTARY CHANNEL 4 9PM…shit i’ll be at IMAX watching the movie!
lol
#29, my understanding is that this isn’t simply a time-travel story, it’s an alternate-universe story. So Nero’s Romulus is destroyed, his wife is dead, period. The versions he would find in the new universe/reality are not the same. So there is no timeline to restore. What he cared about is gone. And so he’s p**sed.
Another line should have been: “Captain, we CAN change the laws of physics! We do it on a regular basis!”.
Man, you guys at Trekmovie just won’t stop the political grandstanding will you?
Nobody cares about Obama. And it’s ludicrous to try to compare that liar to a Vulcan.
Vulcans never lie. Nor are they Marxists.
Re: Google stardates
The stardates have been changed into a new, “dumbed-down” version in the new movie anyway
Letterman knew what he was saying.
Question about when we can do a thread about Easter eggs in the new movie. Maybe there is already one and I’ve missed it.
SPOILER ALERT!
SPOILER ALERT!
One Easter egg I’ve noticed is the M-11… markings prominently featured in the scene on the Enterprise when Sarek tells Spock the real reason he married his mother. That appears to be a reference to the movie, Mission Impossible III, directed by JJ Abrams.
Another is the design of the lobster creature on Delta Vega.
The significance of the “red matter” ball has already been noted in connection with Lost.
Number 8 on Letterman’s top ten line was Shatner’s line. He deserves credit for that. That was his line when Takei came out. I remember that on Extra on Entertainment Tonight or one of those shows.
“We all knew it back then because we’d set our phasers on stun and George would set his on fabulous” – William Shatner
A good line. I’ve got your back Bill.
he Kobiashi Maru scene actually reminded me of Tim Allen’s first encounter with Saris in Galaxy Quest.
“Ummm, okay, okay, fire all red particle cannons, fire all blue particle cannons, and while you’re at it, toss this ‘em, killer.
*tosses empty can of diet Coke to the navigator*
#55 – (Spoiler alert) … I couldn’t help but laugh my head off when I saw the grafitti in the Cadet’s shuttlecraft … someone in “Star Trek’s” cast of cadets or more likely on the crew set graffitti to the words “LOW CEILING,” adding a few characters to get “WILLOW CEILING.”
#24 – … I never do this but I’m going to watch the film a 2nd time in the theatre but this time in downtown Channelside’s IMAX (R) … I normally only watch real space shuttle or space film in IMAX, and I am interested how they even filmed “Star Trek” in IMAX. (which requires special cameras to film and in insane amount of data pixels to manipulate digitally with that kind of size and resolution for effects). Were two sets of cameras used to film it? Or, more likely, were the original cameras digital all the way, with enough pixel capacity to handle IMAX Resolution? Or is this just a normal film projected onto the inside of a hemisphere-shaped screen? I’ll let you know how it goes.
“I find your choice of hairpiece highly illogical.” ROFL!
59, I have a spoiler about your question.
SPOILER ABOUT THE IMAX PROJECTION FOLLOWS.
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I did not see much difference in resolution or experience between the IMAX and the regular projection. It appears to me that they simply projected the regular 70 mm film print onto a larger screen.
But I could be wrong.
OK, it’s not quite hangover time, but we’ve got what? $35m in the bank for Th/Fr results? Saturday and Sunday are still coming, and RT still has “Trek” at 96%. GO STAR TREK!
Go ST indeed, AJ. Concur.
Follow-on to my spoiler about my IMAX experience:
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I saw the regular (non-IMAX) projection of the movie at a premium theater, so that could be why I didn’t see the difference. Also, I saw the IMAX projection in the late night/early morning, when my senses might not have been fully awake. BOTH EXPERIENCES WERE MAGNIFICENT.
poor Leonard….I’m so totally distracted by the “s” sound from his dentures. It distracted me in the movie and in the top ten.
I think they convert the standard movie print shown in regular digital or film projection theaters into an IMAX print. They did not actually film any portion of the movie in IMAX format.
=A=
Both Spocks on Jimmy Fallon last night was very cool. That would be a great video addition to the site if one is available.
I don’t think they filmed the movie in IMAX format.
I enjoyed the movie and want to go see it again. Part of me felt sad after watching it, though, because perception is always better than reality. I made the mistake of getting my daily Trek fix here, to keep me going during some hard times. But it kind of took the buzz off finally watching the movie. There were few surprises. I need to stay away from the Internet if they end up making another movie.
SPOILER / PLOT WARNING:
My main nitpick is that Kirk was cast off to a random planet, and just happens to land exactly where Spock and Scotty are located. We need Spock or Data around to compute those odds, but they would be very low.
Perhaps a line of dialog or a quick scene could have made that make more logical sense.
My best rationalization of that, 65, is from the concept that some parallel universes simply have nodes of attraction where events happen more often than would occur by chance. Call it fate if you will, but it could be that the sheer number of universes in which Kirk and Spock are a team is so vast that there is some mystical “pull” that makes such coincidences more probable. This is why, in the Trek universe, there can be such things as parallel universes or, by converse reasoning, “mirror” universes (which would have reverse event polarity of some kind).
This mystical pull would have no scientific support whatsoever, of course, at least at this point, but it’s an interesting concept.
Well Roberto, Alex, JJ…. ALL IS FORGIVEN!
I now eat crow.
Saw the movie last night with a group of hard-core fans and NONE of us had any real problem with the film.
It was SO entertaining- which is the whole point anyhow- that we were all simply blown away.
Screw the nits!
Congratulations. AND thanks so much for not only making Trek live again, but making it cool as hell! WOW!
PS- Ah, go ahead, keep the barcode scanners in. Now we’re used to them!
Seen it now 3 times. I have a record to break and thats 9 for rek 2. J.J i usualy only see a movie once at the theater and that included treks 9 and 10. But you have done it. Gotten me to see a movie more then once at the theater and that has not happened since the 1990s. What an incredable Movie. Thank you J.J and the Court. may you Live long and Prosper.Oh. Seen Nimoy on the View on Friday. Call him and get him in the Next Movie ok. he said he would talk to you about anything.
52. Ummm…all they reported was that the current President wants to see the movie. And noted a few Trek-related references in the media to him (plus, included a reference to a former Republican President and Trek as well). I fail to see how this is “grandstanding”. Perhaps you can find a more suitable outlet for your rhetoric elsewhere.
Wow. Let me say that again. Wow. I haven’t had this much fun with a film experience since I was a child. In fact, my biggest complaint with the whole thing was the audience going overboard with applause while I was trying to absorb it all.
I went into the film quite enthusiastic, but expecting to be bothered by a few plot elements in particular—-first and foremost, Kirk’s ascension to command. Now, perhaps it is because I had already accepted it over the last few months as just one of those things, but I barely gave it a thought during the film. Had I a moment to dwell upon it in the theater, my reaction to Pike’s order (designating the young Kirk “first officer” in his absence) would most likely have been an elaborative spin on that of Commander Spock, but the story’s pace carried me on to the next stage of this thrilling ride, with no time for such quibbles. By the time he goads Spock into the trap provided by regulations (of which our beloved Spock of course needs no reminder from him) and assumes command—-the truth is—-I could not help but want him to!
This film was brilliantly casted, and boy did it need to be. The action sequences were terrific, but make no mistake—-this story was decidely character-driven…precisely as a Star Trek film should be. My favorite scene? There are, upon reflection, alot of them from which to choose, but one which stands out to me is certainly the one at the Vulcan Science Academy. It gave me goosebumps. Quinto nailed that one with a sledgehammer!
As for nitpicking the science of it all, there is no question that ST09 plays fast and loose. Do I care? Hell no! Everything about this experience was fun, and I feel sorry for anyone who wasted a minute on that…as he/she missed a minute of a fantastic experience. This was everything I wanted and easily a little bit more. ST09 kicks in the door and doesn’t let up until the credits roll.
Is it perfect? No. But if it were, a potential sequel would have nowhere to go but down.
This is by far Abrams best work, and Orci and Kurtzman’s best as well. Aside from wanting to yell “shut up” at the people behind and in front of me cheering and applauding when I wanted the only sounds in the theater to be from the film (and perhaps my own heartbeat), my only other complaint at this point is certainly more of a compliment than anything else—-I didn’t want it to end!
27, 34, 38–Nice to know that someone else thinks of Letterman as I do. In the example above, he kicks Star Trek (and Leonard) in the balls, with his “confusion” calling it Star Wars, before LN comes out .
The bit itself was still pretty funny after Letterman finally shuts up–thanks to Leonard….who is a class act as always (and funny!)
#52
To paraphrase a quote from star trek 2 TWOK
“Obama is many things, but he is not liar”.
Star Trek is about HOPE, HOPE is what keeps people going and not giving up.
If you have HOPE, you have the desire to make a difference.
Today’s date in stardates as far as I remember them being back in the day.
200905.09
So the new stardates are different from this how ?
I never noticed them being “Dumbed Down” in the new film at all.
They sounded the same to me.
96% on the Tomatometer now.
That better than the last 5 Oscar winners for “Best Picture”.
This is surreal.
As far as the “alternate universe” theory is concerned… even tho Nero himself wouldnt see his wife again, he could still prevent his race from being destroyed in the future. He travels back in time. Romulus still exists at this point in the past. Therefore, all he has to do is find young Spock, tell to put the red matter into the star a few mins earlier, all will be well.
How much do you want to bet that the typical Media will spend a month or so saying it’s great, then they will start on their lets now destroy it. They seem to tear apart any thing really liked just so the reporters can make another penny off the topic.
How about we start some thing new ad when they start trashing it we just turn them off and send bad/evil letters to the broadcasting company’s. Try to rid them of the is good so now its bad syndrome.
#29, that is a real retarded question. How would they have made this MOVIE if Nero simply went back and told Spock. This IS a MOVIE, not real life. My God people!
I do NOT recommend the Imax. This is NOT an IMAX film, and nothing was added horizontally or vertically to the picture in normal 14×9 or 70mm projections. As a matter of fact, the wings horizontally were clipped (both sides) and the film was projected onto a bigger screen with a smaller use of the available film space. Plus, normal viewing was $8.00 for me, and $0.50 (supposedly) for parking. Channelside’s incompetent Tampa Port Authority, which also runs the parking for the Carnival Cruise Ships (we actually had one parked right next to the theater) can’t even get their validation process straight so I ended up with a $5.00 parking charge to watch a $12.00 when in fact the $8.00 movie with free parking is a better deal. Oh, I forgot to mention that light-loving gnats and moths kept landing on the lens, and most of us spent our entire viewing experience watching the insects seem to crawl across the screen, and not the movie. 18″ gnats are pretty impressive.
IMAX (R) it-s not Imax like REAL Imax films are … so just don’t bother.
#78: They could have made it with an intelligent script. That apparently wasn’t an option, but the movie came out good without one (this is not really a first for Star Trek) :)
52. Your name is quite appropriate….why don’t you lower your “barrier” of biased right wing filtering….they mention Obama wanting to see Star Trek…this is a good thing….not a political thing…geez…and did I see a mention of the greatest republican every known….ah, yes….I cannot believe the right wing grandstanding by TM.com….to bring in his name…how exciting it is that many different people know and love ST….and the more publicity, the better for all of us….
52….oh, and Vulcan’s never lie and are not marxist….but how offended they became when Spock wanted to do his thing and how intolerant they were of his mother since she was not one of them….indeed they were not marxist, they seemed to be almost republican….
#82: It’s a fine line, really, if you see the Left/Right spectrum as a circle rather than a line with two ends. Label the top “moderation and mutual respect” and the bottom “tyrrany” and the middle sides “extremism” and you can slide to the bottom either by leaning really far left OR really far right.
Okay — so back from the second viewing — WHY was the fleet in the Laurention sector in the first place? Was it because of the Klingon ship thing? Why wasn’t Pike notified of the destruction of all the Klingon ships? Was Starfleet notified that Nero was coming to Earth? Did communications simply take too long, a la TOS — so that all those ships knew nothing about Nero. Isn’t Vulcan three days from Earth (TMP)? I would have liked to see a bit more of Nero’s backstory. And I’m assuming the encounter with the Kelvin twigged Starfleet to the Vulcan/Romulan connection. But how did they know Nero was Romulan in the first place? Oh, do good denturists not exist on Romulus in Spock Prime’s 24/5th century? Did Nero give Spock a matching fur-trimmed coat/pant suit on Delta Vega before he dropped him off? Why didn’t Scotty pick up the destruction of Vulcan, the Enterprise in orbit or the space pod nearby? Why do some of the E’s displays use the same LED numbers as my 1982 clock radio? Where did the wood for the fire come from? Why doesn’t young Spock raise his eyebrows more? Why do officers where different uniforms when on board ship? Why does the Nokia future phone look lamer than my first gen iPhone? Did Nero manage to blow up the star that would go supernova and later blow up Romulus (or did the black hole blow it up back in time, therefore preventing the destruction in the first place)?
I loved this movie, by the way.
THIS IS A DISASTER NO ONE CARES ANYMORE ABOUT NITPICKING ANYMORE BECAUSE THE MOVIE WAS SO GOOD EVEN THOUGH THE MOVIE WAS SO FULL OF STUFF THAT WAS ALL SCREWED UP THIS IS A DISASTER!!!
#84:
“Okay — so back from the second viewing — WHY was the fleet in the Laurention sector in the first place?”
Huge clearance sale on go-go boots.
“Oh, do good denturists not exist on Romulus in Spock Prime’s 24/5th century?”
They do, but but subtle differences in Vulcan and Romulan physiology (TNG: “The Enemy”) made the operation go horribly awry.
“Did Nero give Spock a matching fur-trimmed coat/pant suit on Delta Vega before he dropped him off?”
It had belonged to Nero’s wife. She didn’t need it anymore.
“Why didn’t Scotty pick up the destruction of Vulcan, the Enterprise in orbit or the space pod nearby?”
None of those things are food. It’s a good thing they arrived when they did, because Keenser was already starting to look like a giant chicken leg, like in cartoons.
“Where did the wood for the fire come from?”
Thoughts of Uhura.
“Why doesn’t young Spock raise his eyebrows more?”
Quinto still self-conscious about having to shave them.
#86, marry me.
#87 Since I’m already married it’ll have to be an Andorian ceremony. Bring a fourth.
I’m going to see it again on standard theater screen. Hopefully it will be more slower paced and less choppy. That line that kept going across the screen, like a sun reflection was very distracting. Hope the next movie will be more dialog and less action. OH and by the way, why don’t they have movies done in optional closed caption for the hearing impaired. Instead we have to wait till it comes out on DVD and miss all the effects on the big screen.
I have all four interviews from G4’s Attack of the show sitting on my DVR burners hard disk.
Give me a place to upload them and I will, I copied them of my Dish system in 720×480res. Each interview is 2 to 3 minutes.
And Attack of the show is the first TV show that after removing ads is less than 30 minutes out of an hour show. How long until commercial TV dies. It has been said since the 70’s when the program/advertisement time goes less than 50/50 TV free TV will start dieing.
I predicted it would be in 2040’s (actually my math said 2037) from 1995 calculations, with the start of comercial ads back in 1954 on CBS with 1 minute halftime show plugs of 50 seconds to a minute and 20 seconds.
I remember this from a class I had in school about the Development of Commercial TV with CBS and NBC from New York City when every thing was live because Video tape was not created until 1955 on magnetic steal platters. Tape had to wait 2 years and then was 3 inch wide that the military used until 1973 in the US and 1981 overseas.
Could you see a room full of tape spools for the 79 TOS episodes, luckily it was stored on Motion picture film or there would be no TOSremastered today.
Just e-mail me, I know you can find my e-dress because I got a e-mail last week telling me to voice my views on Trek the Movie. I think it was a mass mailing.
In a worse case keep an eye on You-Tube. for the interviews.
What’s with all the claims that Vulcans don’t lie? They certainly do. And their culture seems far more communist than Obama’s economic policy. Don’t forget that Roddenberry was a Marxist.
Not that I’m saying I think communism is great. But it’d be wise to actually think before making blanketly political statements about a fictional franchise (and that goes for Nimoy as well – much as I like both Obama and the new movie I don’t really see any substantial similarity between Obama and Kirk).
What of Sam Kirk, Jim’s older brother? Sam would have still been around–not affected by the time effect. Was it him screaming at Jim about staying at his house and messing up the Corvette?
I liked everything else except the Spock/Uhura thing and the look of the ship. Although the Enterprise looked cool, I wanted at least the exterior of the ship to be the same.
Sam? Maybe he got fed up with his little brother and took off.
Or maybe that WAS him.
I really thought the ship was crap when I first saw it, but in the movie it worked- just like everything else did.
(I’m still in shock the movie was that good….)