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FOX Renews Fringe With Full Season Order + Star Trek: DS9 Reference On Hawaii Five-0 March 24, 2011

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Abrams,Celebrity,Fringe,Great Links,Orci/Kurtzman , trackback

Fringe, the FOX sci-fi show from Star Trek’s JJ Abrams, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman, has been renewed for a fourth season. Despite lower ratings and a move to Friday, Fox is still firmly behind the show, giving it a full season order. Plus Orci and Kurtzman’s other TV show had an extended Star Trek reference on it this week. All the details below

 

Fringe gets a fourth season + Nimoy talks finale

Thursday evening brought great news for fans of Fringe. Word of a fourth season renewal first came from producer Joel Wyman on Twitter. The news was confirmed by Entertainment Weekly, reporting that FOX had ordered a full season of 22 new episodes from JJ Abrams Bad Robot production company.

The 4th season news prompted a tweet from Damon Lindelof (the only Star Trek producer who is not involved in the show) congratulating his friends with: "In an alternate universe, FRINGE was just cancelled. In this one, however, SEASON FOUR, baby! #YAY" Later Roberto Orci sent out a thank you tweet to the fans, saying "Thank you, Fringe fans, for earning us a fourth season. You rock!"

Fringe fans have been getting nervous about the prospects of a fourth season ever since FOX moved the show to Friday (and sci-fi fans remember how that worked out for shows like Enterprise and Firefly). Last week the show (going up against NCAA basketball) hit a series low of just 1.3 in the 18-19 demo, but apparently that didn’t seem to phase FOX. One thing Fringe has going for it, is the show gets a big ratings bump when factoring in DVRs, jumping up to an average of 2.2 with adults 18-29.

Episode 18 ("Bloodline") of the third season of Fringe airs Friday night, which means there are just four more episodes to the season finale featuring Leonard Nimoy, reprising his role as William Bell. The finale, titled “The Way We Died”, airs May 6th. In an interview with the official Star Trek site, Nimoy says of his return:

I can’t say if William Bell will ever be back…I thought the character was finished, but they came up with a wonderful idea.


Nimoy in the Season 2 finale of "Fringe" – coming back for S3 finale

Here is a preview for Friday’s episode "Bloodline". 

"Sisko" on H50

In other news related to Orci and Kurtzman’s TV empire, their CBS show Hawaii Five-0, had a Star Trek reference on this week’s episode “Na Me’e Laua Na”. The episode dealt with a murder of a sci-fi fan, sending McGarrett and Danno to sci-fi convention and an encounter with a "Commander Sisko" cosplayer. The episode was written by Roberto Orci’s brother J.R. Orci. You can watch the episode at CBS.com (Skip to the 10:00 minute mark to see "Commander Sisko"…and yes he was wearing a First Contact costume and had captains pips, and yes CBS.com only works in the USA).


Commander Sisko helps out McGarrett and Danno on Orci & Kurtzman’s Hawaii Five-0

Comments

1. Captain Jack Bauer - March 24, 2011

So happy about Fringe’s renewal!

By the way, the episode titles and airdates for the rest of the season have been released:

4/15 Lysergic Acid Diethylamide
4/22 6:02 AM EST
4/29 The Last Sam Weiss
5/06 The Day We Died (season finale)

2. Anthony Pascale - March 24, 2011

right you are, thanks

3. Bill Peters - March 24, 2011

Wasn’t DS9 one of those things that hard core Trek fans augured about with those of us who love all Trek and keep saying it isn’t real Trek until Star Trek 09 came out?

4. Bill Peters - March 24, 2011

Wish they would make a DS9 Mini-Series rather then leave Sisko in the Wormhole in actual Canon, Yes I know in the books he is out but it would be nice to see it on screen.

5. Bill Peters - March 24, 2011

All i know is Star Trek 09 and Enterprise in my Opinon couldn’t have such dark Twists to them if DS9 didn’t exisit. Love seeing a refrance in H50!

6. Captain Jack Bauer - March 24, 2011

2.

No problem, Anthony.

7. Red Dead Ryan - March 24, 2011

3.
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Yes, a lot of fans were divided about “Deep Space Nine” simply because it took place on a space station, as well as the fact the show went in a different direction, covering war, religion, and politics in greater detail. Also, unlike “The Original Series” and “The Next Generation”, there wasn’t the “boldly going” concept as we were used to. DS9 boldly went in different areas, having different races come to the crew instead of the other way around. Finally, there was the grittiness, darkness, and overall grimness of war that both TNG and TOS, as well as “Voyager”, mostly avoided.

And its nice to see DS9 get some references. Up until now, for the most part, most pop culture references of Trek involved TOS, TNG, and even “Voyager”.

I love all of the series, but must admit that “Deep Space Nine” is my favorite, by a nose. I just think it was the best produced (first season excepted) of all the series.

8. Jim Nightshade - March 24, 2011

that sisko actor reminded me of the one fan that showed up at the experience n cons in vegas- n he kinda sounded like laforge hah

9. Jim Nightshade - March 25, 2011

oh yes a full season of Fringe renewed! YES! Now if only we can all help to get more people to watch and like it…they are missing one of the best shows on tv!

10. Sxottlan - March 25, 2011

Yeah I saw that and I was dorky enough to notice that he said he was Commander Sisko and he had four pips on his collar.

11. MJ - March 25, 2011

It is sad when an overrated show like this gets season after season of renewals, while great shows like Jericho and Firefly were never really given a decent chance.

12. John Trowbridge - March 25, 2011

Interesting how far removed Hawaii Five-O can be from reality. Just this year, Creation had its first Star Trek convention in Honolulu in something like twelve years, as it is hard for them to make ends meet in Hawai`i–a far cry from the Comic Con-like convention depicted in the episode. That said, the Sisko reference was still a lot of fun.

13. David C. Roberson - March 25, 2011

YES YES YES YES YEEEEEEESSSSS!!! I am incredibly jubilant regarding the renewal of FRINGE. I must wholeheartedly concur with #9, Jim Nightshade in that we must do our part to ensure that Fringe gets a fifth season next year! We have the entire summer coming, and I say it’s time we all convinced our friends to catch up while they can! I convinced my girlfriend to watch it, and she absolutely loves it! I myself got into it through word of mouth from other trusted friends!

#3: Yes, DS9 was somewhat ill-advisably black-listed by many Trek fans who argued semantics about premise. It was unfortunate as DS9 boldly went where no Star Trek had gone before. The narrow-mindedness of certain Trek fans certainly hindered the popularity of DS9. Personally, I find it to be the best Star Trek series ever made. Sorry, purists. TOS is my very close second, if that makes it any better…

14. Jonboc - March 25, 2011

Great news to start the day! Congrats to boborci and the Fringe team!

15. Topher - March 25, 2011

I was worried myself about a Fourth season for Fringe. I have been playing catch up since I haven’t seen season 2 yet. I just started S2 box set this past weekend and loved the beginning so far.

Just by chance, I was at Barnes N Noble yesterday and they have a Fringe Graphic Novel. Going to go back and pick it up. Still gotta get the first one.

16. GraniteTrek - March 25, 2011

Okay, I’m going to lose my DS9 cred here, but wasn’t Sisko a Captain and wearing the FC uniform for the last season (or maybe a bit longer), thus just making the reference to him as “Commander” the inaccurate part?

17. GraniteTrek - March 25, 2011

Oh, and if you’re reading this boborci – tell your brother, “Thanks for showing us DS9 fans some love and that we’re not forgotten!” :)

18. Trek Or Treat - March 25, 2011

Great news for Fringe! Now we just need a renewal of “V” and we’re all set!

19. Robert H. - March 25, 2011

Hoping they also renew Hawaii 5-0. Didn’t see the original, heard it was a bit dippy, but this new one is really good.

20. Cap'n Calhoun - March 25, 2011

I prefer to think of it as a Deep Space Nine costume since they premiered it before First Contact did. ;-)

21. Quatlo - March 25, 2011

Good on Fox for renewing FRINGE.

22. denny cranium - March 25, 2011

Fringe is a great show. If you’re not watchng it give it a try. Great mix of drama sci fi and yes character development
Kudos to Fox for standing behind it.
And I never watch Hawaii 5-0 but I saw the episode with the DS9 reference.

23. MikeTen - March 25, 2011

I must be living in a alternate universe. Fox not cancelling a sci-fi show?? I was beginning to not believe in miracles.

It’s nice to see various CBS shows giving Trek some love. Big Bang Theory and now Hawaii 5 0, too bad Sh*t My Dad Says is finished for the year or maybe they would have sneaked something in especially with Mr. Shatner being on the show.

24. James T. West (no comma) - March 25, 2011

Mediocre ratings for an X-Files knockoff…Fox trying to make up for Terminator and Firefly premature cancellations.

Doesn’t look good for Human Target now…

25. Danpaine - March 25, 2011

Right on. More Fringe.

26. Chris Doohan - March 25, 2011

I’m really glad Fringe will be back. It’s the only “must watch / can’t miss” show for me.

27. Weerd1 - March 25, 2011

Deep Space Nine: simply the best of all the series. Yes, even better than TOS. I love TOS, I really like Next Gen, I enjoy TAS, I get along with Enterprise… let’s not talk about the other one, but DS9 was where Ron Moore learned how to do BSG. DS9 had the best character development of any show on television. As an example trace how “Cardassian Bridge Officer” would later become “Damar” and finally a major player. Excellent show. Love it, love it, love it.

28. Zee - March 25, 2011

Great news about Fringe. Congrats Fringe team on the renewal!

#24 Second that Chris. I’m happy one of the shows I watch will be back.
Agree it doesn’t look good for Human Target or V.

Loved the DS9 reference on Hawaii 5-O

29. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - March 25, 2011

Good for Fringe. Now on to V being renewed. Love Hawaii five 0

30. Dom - March 25, 2011

Thrilled about Fringe! I kind of wished we’d seen The X-Files head off in this direction back in the aftermath of 9/11, where, rather than debunking Mulder’s investigations, the DHS had set up a task force that absorbs the X-Files, meaning Mulder would be butting heads with people more paranoid than him! Either way, Fringe is a firm favourite and a show I find utterly rewatchable! I’m a huge fan of the cast, the writing and the premise. Plus anything involving parallel universes is guaranteed to grab my attention!

As for DS9, even though I’m no fan of the Berman era, I’ll defend it on the grounds that it’s arguably the only true spin-off of Star Trek, ie taking an aspect of Star Trek and hiving it off to do its own thing, a la Frasier, Angel and so on.

In comparison, TNG, VOY and ENT were simply remakes of the original show’s premise with a different cast, made by people who, I feel, didn’t particularly get what the original show was about (and that includes Gene Roddenberry in the 1980s, sadly!)

As for cosplayers … yuck! There was a poll recently, IIRC, that showed most Trek fans think people who dress in Trek costumes and obsess about the shows to that level are weirdoes, yet, sadly, science fiction fans are routinely portrayed as these freaks!

31. bo - March 25, 2011

yes

32. jas_montreal - March 25, 2011

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank god. I was really hoping for a fourth season. This is really exciting news. Theirs not much good sci-fi on tv anymore, so its nice to see Fringe comeback.

now listen fringe team…. MAKE FRINGE CROSSOVER INTO THE X-FILES UNIVERSE !!!!!!

33. Thomas Jensen - March 25, 2011

I really love Hawaii-five-0, the premise is amazing, the Wo Fat storyline is interesting, the actors are appealing and excellent. The storylines are great. It’s a wonderful updating of the original all-around.

But why does the background music have to be there even when the dialog doesn’t require it??? The two main characters might have a light moment together with a little ‘kirk/spock’ type ribbing and what do we hear? LOTS and LOTS of invasive background music.

I’m all for dramatic music, but in every scene? Frankly, that adds nothing where the audience should be hearing what the characters are saying without the support of the music. Sometimes the moment requires a focus on what’s being said without mood music.

Love the show, hate the continuous 24/7 background music.

34. Maj - March 25, 2011

Fringe is a great show, nice to know good sci fi can get still succeed in this day and age.

And I agree with Ryan, although my preference is TNG but DS9 is/was the all around best production of any of the series. Voyager, I thought was outstanding as well. with many, many great episodes.

35. Peter N - March 25, 2011

“The Last Sam Weiss”? Ooooohhh… that episode is bound to be full of interesting reveals!

36. Sebastian - March 25, 2011

DS9 is my favorite series of all the post-TOS ST shows.
It’s funny how I can just pop in one of the dvds and it still seems as relevant as ever. The characters and relationships are also the warmest of any since TOS. Easily the pick of the litter.

Even seeing that bit on Hawaii 5-0 reminded me how good a series it was.
As for ‘no brothers’ on the Enterprise, what about Geordi LaForge? He was chief engineer.

37. Red Dead Ryan - March 25, 2011

19.
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“First Contact” premiered a few weeks before DS9 adopted the uniforms.
DS9 used those uniforms for two and a half seasons total til the end of the series.

I’m guessing J.R Orci wrote the cosplayer as “Commander” Sisko while wearing the FC/late DS9 uniform with captain’s pips just to “bait” us fans into nitpicking. :-)

38. Hat Rick - March 25, 2011

Look, let’s get serious, here.

DS9 was, I believe, the most unfairly least appreciated Star Trek series ever produced. I say that advisedly: In other words, the fact that it is so little appreciated in comparison with, say TNG, is most unfair.

DS9 had all the elements of an epic saga, far outclassing its rival in my opinion (B5), with limited exceptions. DS9 was everything an avid Trek fan could want — great characters and stories, and an amazing series of plotlines that were coherent and fantastic at the same time.

I miss DS9.

39. Woulfe - March 25, 2011

DS9 also gave us a little history lesson in ” Far Beyond The Stars ”

It looked back at the very start of Sci-Fi as written in mags like ‘Amazing Stories’ ‘Fantastic Tales’ and so forth and so on

It was also a look back at what kind of world it was in those days, it showed us where we were at that time, and how far we had come, and how far we still have to go

it was possibly the best “Valentine” we ever got as Sci-Fi fans

40. Randy8 - March 25, 2011

Fringe! Yes! Hope we get more Lincoln Lee!

41. grigori - March 25, 2011

YEA for Fringe. Good show, yes, but still–wish tptb could have learned their lessons sooner. I’d rather have even more Enterprise or Firefly or Alien Nation. Only the good die young…or something like that. not really. but you know.

42. CJC960 - March 25, 2011

Awww, this is the only pop culture reference to DS9 I can think of besides Family Guy.

I’ll take what i can get!

43. Basement Blogger - March 25, 2011

Hooray for Fringe! One more season. That’s just great. Now let’s get Bell’s katra out of Olivia. It’s getting a little wild. Bring on Leonard Nimoy. Questions for next year.

1. Why did Bell operate on Walter?

2. Who are the Observers and what do they want? Oh, and no “Lost” garbage and leave the questions unanswered.

Anway, congratulations to Bob Orci, Alex Kurtzman and J.J. Abrams. Congratulations to Joel Wyman and all the talented people at the show. And thanks to Fox for having the guts to stick it out.

44. jas_montreal - March 25, 2011

I’m happy about about the DS9 Reference. Its a deeply under-rated show. My favorite Star Trek Series by a LONG shot.

Maybe my 2 most favorite Sci-Fi shows of all-time are:

-DS9 and BSG(ron moore’s version)

45. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - March 25, 2011

Hey. Ds9 also gave us the Tos Crossover in Trials and Tribulations with the U.S.S Defiant going back in time to Space Station K7 and the Big E with Kirk and Spock and of course Tribbles. Now that was a Valentimes for all of us hard core Trek Fans. I love how they had Capt Sisko getting Capt Kirk to sign the Duty Roster. Now that is a Classic moment.

46. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - March 25, 2011

Sorry. I meant Valentines. Loved that Ep. We got to see the Big E again along with the orignal uniforms and got to hear all of the orignal sounds and everything that made Tos what it was. Loved seeing Worf fighting Tos era Klingons. Seeing Chief Obrain outright Lie to Capt Kirk and seeing Dr. Bashier Squirm under the scrutiny of Capt Kirk. That Ep to me was a Tos Ep number 81

47. Red Dead Ryan - March 25, 2011

By the way, last week at my local mall, I passed by a LEGO fair. Someone had built foot-and-a-half long models of the Jem’ Hadar Attack Ship and the DS9 Defiant out of LEGO. They were awesome. Unfortunately, I didn’t have a camera and couldn’t take any pictures.

48. AJ - March 25, 2011

Why couldn’t they make it the real Ben Sisko? OOoooooooohhHH!

49. Harry Ballz - March 25, 2011

48.

They probably didn’t get Avery Brooks to play himself because in real life Brooks is a little out there. He might have adlibbed about there being 28 dimensions with aliens hiding in the 7th one, and how they’re controlling us with magic crystals. Great on a reality show, not on H50!

50. Steven - March 25, 2011

re: FRINGE …

Well crack my knuckles and jump for joy!

51. joe - March 25, 2011

I am glad to see DS9 get a reference. This is actually the second DS9 reference I have seen. The first was a sitcom, can’t even remember the name of it but I have a memory of the boy of the show saying he did not want to miss Deep Space Nine and then later running up the stairs saying, “Maybe I can catch it before they go through the wormhole.” Is there anybody else who remembers that?

52. Maj - March 25, 2011

@51

No, but I do remember the wormhole! =)

But it’s sad you know, because DS9 is probably the Star Trek that most deserved additional seasons, so we could’ve got post-war stories, new characters like Ezri would’ve gotten better development. And even without Captain Sisko I still think the show could’ve went on. And surely it would’ve been too difficult to bring back Odo from the great link – one could foresee a thousand different ways to make a grandiose story out of that.

53. Maj - March 25, 2011

Sorry, it would “not” have been too difficult bring Odo back, is what I meant to say.

54. MJ - March 25, 2011

@24 “Mediocre ratings for an X-Files knockoff…Fox trying to make up for Terminator and Firefly premature cancellations.”

I could not agree more! Instead of Firefly, Terminator and Jericho, we get this mediocre X-Files ripoff. I will say the acting is good, but the stories are too hard to believe and the gore is sensationalized well above the needs of the stories.

55. MJ - March 25, 2011

Agree with most of the DS9 comments — in my opinion, DS9 was the best of the post-TOS Trek series.

56. CaptainDonovin - March 25, 2011

DS9 was a great show, would have loved to have seen a mini series or direct to dvd movie (like was done for Stargate SG1 a few years ago). It really could have been a great scene for a big screen movie, I just imagine the station on the screen – wow. I know theratings may not have been there for that type of movie but a boy can dream.

57. Cap'n Chris - March 25, 2011

DS9 also got a reference in the classic movie Swingers. Best show ever! But I love all Trek.

Great to hear Fringe will be back. :)

Here’s my little Valentines to all Star Trek (little Megaman style pics good for avatars) :)

http://commdesign.wordpress.com/2010/10/11/megaman-style-star-trek/

58. Hat Rick - March 25, 2011

I agree that DS9 deserved more seasons. I wish our culture were such that thought-provoking and well-produced science fiction could flourish on television, but — unless you dress it up in different form, as in Lost — it’s not that easy to make a truly popular SF show.

Anyone remember FlashForward? I thought it had promise, and our own Trekmeister, Brannon Braga, was at the helm. But FlashForward came and went virtually without a trace.

I wonder if anyone has compared Braga’s effort with Moore’s BSG in specific terms. Both men were producers in DS9; Braga went on to produce Voyager while Moore had a much more limited role in it, and yet Moore’s BSG has been much more successful.

Come to think of it, I’d like to read more about what both men have to say about the new, rebooted Star Trek cinematic universe. (Yes, I know it’s not really rebooted, but you know what I mean.)

59. Hat Rick - March 25, 2011

^^ I realize that DS9 lasted a “full” seven seasons, just as TNG and Voyager did, but I think there were more seasons that should have been produced, and could have, had it not been for the ratings.

60. Amorican - March 25, 2011

I’m glad Fringe has been renewed. I can’t wait to find out whether Pacey is going to beat out Dawson for Joey’s affections. And if Emilio Estevez will be back to coach the hockey team.

61. captain_neill - March 25, 2011

Never watched Fringe apart from the pilot episode.

Might watch it some day but it is a show that doesn’t really appeal to me.

DS9 was a great Star Trek show and ine that some great risks,

62. captain_neill - March 25, 2011

However, Leonard Nimoy being in Fringe makes me want to see it.

63. Sxottlan - March 25, 2011

#58: I don’t think Brannon Braga ever worked on DS9.

64. grigori - March 25, 2011

good to see so many DS9 fans stand up for the show!

can’t see how you can say FRINGE is a knock-off of anything: John Noble is one of a kind, and he’s why I watch.

65. Steve T. in NY - March 25, 2011

Glad Fringe is getting renewed! Great Show!!

Think its great to see all the love DS9 is getting on here. I too thought it was one of the best series ever made, Star Trek or otherwise! Its the only series that I have all the DVDs to. As to the reference on H50, i too saw the pips.. and made a comment to my wife lol. Yeash i’m a geek and proud of it!

As to H50- I think it is a really well done series and a wonderful update on the original. I love the characters, as well as the continuing storylines which i think allow the viewer to get invested in the characters and keeps you watching as well as caring. As to the music- I noticed the almost constant music in the background and i do like it. I just think its funny that to me it sounds like the music from Call Of Duty – Modern Warfare 2 video game) LOL. If anyone likes cop shows.. i would totally recommend Flashpoint, which is about a Canadian SWAT Team (SRU) and it is also very good with some great storylines and twists. Can see it on CBS in the Summer- just sayin :)

66. Harry Ballz - March 25, 2011

Bob Orci:

I just watched the Hawaii 5-0 episode written by your brother. He did a nice job, maybe a tad heavy on the exposition dialogue in explaining things to viewers, but still well done!

67. Jim Nightshade - March 25, 2011

Bah! Phooey to you few Fringe naysayers out there–while i loved mulder n sculley n obviously see fringe is at least a partial nod to xfiles it goes further than xfiles did–its even weirder n whackier–xfiles is kinda like a starting off point for fringe but the whole duplicate earth subplot plus much deeper character development n fantastic acting by all involved make fringe wonderful—and as others mentioned–woulda been great to have sculley n mulder finding n solving the weird without all the doubt from their bosses that they had to go thru-fringe is doing this- also fascinating how the characters on alter earth are both similiar n very different at same time–tonites alt olivia episode had me glued to my seat–xfiles was great n fantastic n fringe is even better-i am bettin fox also thinks this–

68. keachick - March 26, 2011

Loving Hawaii Five-O so far and catching Fringe as well. Congratulations to the OK (Orci/Kurtzman) team. Keep up the good work.

69. Hat Rick - March 26, 2011

63, you’re right. I stand corrected.

70. XAi - March 26, 2011

MJ, whatever. You are missing out. The Fringe Universe(s) are much bigger than “Dragnet chasing flying saucers”

Thanks, FOX!

Love 5-0 as well

71. MJ - March 26, 2011

Well I gave up on it early in Season 2. So it has improved significantly since then?

72. T'Cal - March 26, 2011

As a huge TNG fan I must acknowledge that DS9 was the better written show. After the first couple years the stories were far more interesting and the character development was lots better. The Dominion War arc was phenomenal couldn’t be done on TNG. As for Captain Sisko being referred to as Commander Sisko by the “fan,” I agree – we were being baited. Nicely done, Orci-lite. Nicely done.

73. sean - March 26, 2011

Here we are going into a fourth season of Fringe and people are still making lazy X-Files comparisons. You might as well say X-Files was a cheap knockoff of Kolchak. Watch the show folks, and you’ll immediately see any similarities to X-Files are pretty superficial, just as similarities between Kolchak and X-Files were pretty superficial.

I miss Firefly and TSCC too, but we don’t have to go and take it out on another good show just because it won a toss of the dice.

74. boborci - March 26, 2011

Thanks, Sean!

75. captain_neill - March 26, 2011

I must be the only one who is not a watcher of Fringe. I was going to try Hawaii Five 0 but after watching some clips it seemed too removed from the original, which I have seen bits off.

My friend said he found the first episode a little insulting to his intelligence and turned it off before it ended.

76. captain_neill - March 26, 2011

75

Not my words but I haven’t been wanting to rush out to see it.

I will give Fringe a try as it seems I am only Trek fan who doesn’t seem that keen on the show. But will give it a try sometime.

77. Shaun - March 26, 2011

People saying Fringe is an X-Files knockoff clearly haven’t watched the show in a while, and they probably didn’t pay much attention during the brief while they did watch. X-Files was more about the supernatural, while Fringe is very much about the science. Yeah, the science isn’t always realistic, but that’s why it’s called “Fringe.” It’s still rooted in theoretical science though.

Also, the characters are nothing like they were on X-Files. Olivia and Peter are nothing like Mulder and Scully, and then there’s Walter. I think it’s safe to say that there’s never been a TV character quite like him. John Noble is just one of a kind, and I hope he finally gets an Emmy nod this year. Of course, Anna Torv has come a long way herself. Now that’s she’s playing TWO different Olivias (and she’s been channeling William Bell lately), maybe she’ll get some Emmy love too. She deserves it.

Finally, where X-Files got ridiculously convoluted with some alien conspiracy that was never statisfyingly resolved, Fringe has been straightforward in its direction all along. The conflict between two worlds is nothing like anything X-Files ever did, so (aside from the occasional “Monster of the week” episode) people can stop with their lame-brained comparisons now. The storyline has stayed consistent and strong, and while the first season was hit and miss it’s been firing on all cylinders for the last two years.

Fringe seems to have a clear sense of where it’s going, and while it will likely only run for 4 or 5 seasons it will (hopefully) end on its own terms and end in the satisfying fashion that X-Files and Lost failed to do. If you’re not watching, you’re missing out on the best sci-fi show to come down the pike in a good long while, and quite possibly the most entertaining show on TV today.

Oh, and did we mention that Leonard Nimoy has a recurring role on Fringe? And that he’s having a ball doing the show? That should be reason enough to tune in. If you’re not watching, you’re missing out.

78. Shaun - March 26, 2011

BTW, glad to see all the DS9 love here… It was indeed the best of all the Trek shows, and it’s a shame that so many people came to appreciate it so much later. Even though DS9′s ending left things wide open for a return, it’s pretty clear we’ll never see a movie, miniseries, or any kind of return.

Too bad, because I’d have much rather seen a continuation of DS9 — including Sisko’s return — then the (mostly weak) TNG films or the Abrams reboot of the original series.

DS9 was a gem, and it seems most fans (and Paramount) didn’t know what they had while it was on. Of course, I kinda feel the same way about Fringe right now.

79. Red Dead Ryan - March 26, 2011

Favorite DS9 episodes—In no particular order:

“Trials And Tribble-Ations”
“The Jem’ Hadar”
“Emissary”
“Way Of The Warrior”
“In The Pale Moonlight”
“Far Beyond The Stars”
“What You Leave Behind”
“Crossover”
“Shattered Mirror”
“A Call To Arms”
“Waltz”
“The Seige Of AR-558″

Plus there are many more I don’t have time to mention!

80. T'Cal - March 26, 2011

I want a miniseries that takes place in the late 24th/early 25th century era, not just from the perspective of one show.

81. Trekboi - March 27, 2011

I missed episodes in the First Season & am on to doing dvd- it looks good- i havent even gotten to the paralelle universe part or nimoy- so much to look forward too lol

82. Daoud - March 27, 2011

Another nice part of Fringe, is the real-world tie-ins with the national Science Olympiad organization. That a science fiction series takes time to have some real science and inspire middle school kids and high school kids… that’s classy.

83. Daoud - March 27, 2011

For any teachers out there interested in the lesson plans associated with real science that’s been in each episode of Fringe:

http://soinc.org/fringe

84. keachick - March 27, 2011

I know that Bob Orci and Alex Kurtzman are professional screenwriters, but I wonder if they have any knowledge, qualifications, degrees in (some of) the science subjects as well? I would think to be able to write good sci-fi, at school, college?, one would have to have been good at subjects like astronomy and other sciences. Just curious – there’s that beak again…not that I am saying that is necessary to have a degree in anything.

85. keachick - March 27, 2011

Re Leonard Nimoy – “48. Has a master’s degree in education and an honorary PhD from Antioch University in Ohio”

and this: “Another nice part of Fringe, is the real-world tie-ins with the national Science Olympiad organization. That a science fiction series takes time to have some real science and inspire middle school kids and high school kids… that’s classy.”

Maybe this is Leonard Nimoy’s behind the scenes contribution to helping with the education of today’s children and being able to put his master’s degree in education to good use. I don’t know, but it sort of sounds like a cool, classy thing that Nimoy might do.

86. George - March 27, 2011

Love it Fringe for a fourth season!!!!

87. Jack - March 27, 2011

77. Agreed. It feels like they know exactly where they’re going.

88. sean - March 28, 2011

#74

I call ‘em like I see ‘em, Bob!

While on the subject, I think it’s worth noting that even though John Noble gets the lion’s share of the praise (and he certainly deserves it), the show simply wouldn’t work without the subtle, nuanced performance of Anna Torv. She blows me away every week. Between playing our Olivia, Fauxlivia, and William Bell Olivia, I’m absolutely amazed at the stuff she pulls off. She makes it look easy, but in the hands of a lesser actor it could have been silly or stilted. Hopefully she knows there are people out there that appreciate her hard work.

89. Scott Gammans - March 28, 2011

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine was the best of the five Trek series, period. There, I said it.

90. JeffreyNdallas - March 29, 2011

Not sure if it was an article before but I love it on H50 when Steve needs a high tech favor, he phones his “girl” friend stationed on the aircraft carrier Enterprise…..such a subtle reference but a huge cookie for me!

91. Steamblade - March 31, 2011

Not only did they screw up the pips, but Sisko never even wore that style of uniform until he was a captain. Though we shouldn’t expect the undynamic duo to get details right.

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