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Roberto Orci: Star Trek Sequel Ready For “Soft Prep” April 16, 2011

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Star Trek Into Darkness , trackback

As we have been reporting, the first draft of the script for the Star Trek sequel isn’t quite done yet, but Paramount is still planning to get production started in the fall to meet that June 29, 2012 release date. Co-writer/producer Bob Orci now explains that they do have enough material to get a "soft prep" of the film going.

 

Star Trek sequel’s "soft prep"

One more straggler interview from Wondercon two weeks ago comes from HitFix, who spoke to Orci about various things, including Star Trek. Regarding the status of Trek, Bob talked about how even though the script draft isn’t totally complete, they can still do some prep work:

We are still working on [script] iterations. We have enough stuff that we are able to start a little bit of a soft prep. We can have designers working on stuff. There are things we know for sure we want to do. But in terms of the script and the dialog, that is something we continue to hammer out.

TrekMovie has confirmed that this "soft prep" has already started, but that the film is still technically not in official pre-production. Obviously that won’t happen until script draft is deemed completed and JJ Abrams makes an announcement on if he will direct the sequel (and if not, then who will).

Here is the video of the HitFix interview (Trek bit at the end):

 

Comments

1. RAMA - April 16, 2011

A-ha the next step!!

2. Will_H - April 16, 2011

Wow its taking them a while, at least it seems like it. Hope they make the deadline for the movie release.

3. Ladymercury - April 16, 2011

Shaking and crying!

4. Aurore - April 16, 2011

And so it …begins?

:)

5. JWM - April 16, 2011

Slow and steady wins the race… I’m about a quality sequel – if the movie gets pushed back a bit so be it. It needs to be great – and I am sure it will be.

6. Quatlo - April 16, 2011

Like all contractors who try to do too much at once, I fear the finished products will suffer. The greed factor.

7. jkimgant - April 16, 2011

Mr. Orci,
At this point with Kurtzman filming ‘People’ is he writing at all or are you and Mr. Lindelof ‘finishing up’?

8. jas_montreal - April 16, 2011

“Soft Prep” includes getting the Botany Bay set Design Blue Prints ready…

9. MikeB - April 16, 2011

I really hope this film doesn’t wind up being rushed or even released without being completely finished. Another TMP fiasco at this tender stage in Treks resurgence would be a disaster.

10. Bill Lutz - April 16, 2011

Great,
more inaccuracies from the team that thought Spock and Uhura making out in the transporter room was proper and blowing up Vulcan would make the fans happy.
Give me Star Trek Phase II.
STAR TREK PHASE II IS STAR TREK DONE RIGHT.

11. crazydaystrom - April 16, 2011

@6
My fears as well. I hope the guys don’t multi-task to the point that the result of all the work is more mechanical and less artful and imaginative. I loved ST’09, flawed though it was. I want the next one to be as good as the best of ’09 -the Kelvin scene- with none of the bad parts *cough*brewery*cough*

12. Weerd1 - April 16, 2011

Better occasional Trek done right than “Good enough” Trek done often.

13. Phil - April 16, 2011

Soft prep…someone has ordered a water cooler, and a pallet of plywood. Wardrobe is dry cleaning some costumes. The cleaning crew is scrubbing the Budweiser factory. Interesting.

14. Dee - lvs moon' surface - April 16, 2011

Well … ” prep soft “… two weeks ago, right? … and now? … ah.. they are already more advanced than they will admit! … PATIENCE IS REQUIRED! …. hmmmmm… LOL

WHERE’S boborci??? … I miss him here!

15. Dee - lvs moon' surface - April 16, 2011

or “soft prep” …. +LOL

:-) :-)

16. Dee - lvs moon' surface - April 16, 2011

#13 – Phil

Yeah …. LOL

:-) :-)

17. PaulB. - April 16, 2011

Gentlemen…may the wind be at your backs! :)

18. Dee - lvs moon' surface - April 16, 2011

#7 – jkimgant

“Mr. Orci,
At this point with Kurtzman filming ‘People’ is he writing at all or are you and Mr. Lindelof ‘finishing up’?”

Believe me… I asked a question similar to this for Mr. Bob Orci… I’m waiting the answer so far… I wish you better luck! …LOL

And it seems that the film Welcome to People is in post-production now!

:-) :-)

19. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - April 16, 2011

Please!!!! A Real Engine Room. Scotty needs to work on his Poor Barrins.
Please!!!! A Real Engine Room. Scotty needs to work on his Poor Barrins.
Please!!!! A Real Engine Room. Scotty needs to work on his Poor Barrins.
Please!!!! A Real Engine Room. Scotty needs to work on his Poor Barrins.

20. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - April 16, 2011

Come on Bob Orci. Blow us away with your Script. Blow us away with a fantastic Movie. Blow us away with the best Star Trek movie ever.
No pressure Bob. No Pressure.

21. rvp - April 16, 2011

I sometimes have the impression Orci is the only one writing this thing. Then I have this mental image of him reading plot points he’s working on to Lindelof over the phone and Damon being all, “LOL, YEAH YEAH, LET’S DO THAT. But now listen to this really stupid reply I got on twitter about the LOST finale – hilarious!!”

22. Chadwick - April 16, 2011

BOOM! inspire inspire inspire.

439 days

23. boborci - April 16, 2011

20.”Come on Bob Orci. Blow us away with your Script. Blow us away with a fantastic Movie. Blow us away with the best Star Trek movie ever.”

Again?!

24. Anthony Pascale - April 16, 2011

yeah Bob, what have you done for us lately?

…I keeeed

25. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - April 16, 2011

#23. Yes Bob Orci. AGAIN!!! Blow us AWAY!!!!!!!

26. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - April 16, 2011

Hey Bob. A Couple of weeks ago you told us that you were 75% done. What would that be now.

27. DS9 IN PRIME TIME - April 16, 2011

@23 HELL YES!!!! Its time for star trek to get going!!! RAMP IT UP!!

28. VZX - April 16, 2011

25. I’m sure it will be good enough….for me to poop on!

29. dmduncan - April 16, 2011

26: “Hey Bob. A Couple of weeks ago you told us that you were 75% done. What would that be now.”

76%

30. Dee - lvs moon' surface - April 16, 2011

#23 – boborci

Wow… Hello Mr. Bob Orci!… I suspect you ‘ve been watching us in silence! … right? … ok, no need to answer! … LOL

:-) :-)

31. Odkin - April 16, 2011

No Bob, don’t “blow us away”… at least not in the way that people tend to think that means (read: Transformers and Trek ’09)

I want to think, care, laugh, cry, and be scared and exhilirated. I want to think “wow, Kirk is cool”, and “go Enterprise, go!”

What i don’t want is the feeling of being “blown away”… the feeling of disorientation, confusion, frustration, crossed-eyes and exhaustion I get from so many of today’s movies.

PLEASE don’t make this movie like, frankly, so many of your others. Don’t make it an assault on the senses. Make it an assault on the emotions.

32. Star Trek Sequel Fan Already - April 16, 2011

C’mon JJ!

PLEASE SIGN ON FOR THE SEQUEL!!!!!!! YOU’RE PART OF THE NEW TREK CREW NOW!!!!!!!! YOU CAN’T ABANDON THEM!!!!!!!!

33. Star Trek Sequel Fan Already - April 16, 2011

Oh, and I echo everything #31 said…

34. gingerly - April 16, 2011

I don’t whether to tell him to relax or to keep the pressure on, with all these projects.

So, I guess I should wish him mucho inspiration and enough time to really rest after everything is a hit. :)

Because he does look like he needs it.

35. Mariel - April 16, 2011

Mr. Orci,

I’d like the echo the sentiments expressed in one of the posts about movies today being disorienting, confusing, and frustrating. I’m not a frequent movie-goer specifically because it bores me when a plotline gets lost amid extended battles and scenes that are designed especially to show off CGI work.

That being said, I actually saw ST-2009 in the theatre 3 times and have watched my DVD so many times it’s rather embarrassing. I really felt like it had the right balance of fighting, effects, and plot so I guess I’m throwing my two cents in to say I hope you guys don’t try to “top” yourselves in that regard when it comes to the next movie. All in all, though, I feel you guys did a fantastic job with the last movie and I look forward to the next. And I don’t even care if engineering is still a brewery. ;) (Also, thumbs up to the Spock/Uhura relationship.)

36. Dee - lvs moon' surface - April 16, 2011

# 24

Well Anthony Pascale … until now boborci not denied nor explained otherwise the subject of the article, right? … so … indeed something is already being done in Star Trek Sequel… somehow already begun… whatever … soft … LOL

:-) :-)

37. Steven - April 16, 2011

@19 – what are you talking about??!!! The Engine Room in ST’09 was great!!

38. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - April 16, 2011

#37. Sure. But Beer in the Engine Room. Not so much.

39. Lore - April 16, 2011

#10. So which one of the actors from Phase II are you?

If you didn’t like ST09, why are you here? This is a site started to promote that film! BTW. Destroying Vulcan was used to give Spock an element of tragedy. Just as Kirk’s father dying gives a new audience a reason to give a damn about these characters.

40. cd - April 16, 2011

39 – So they weren’t interesting before?

41. Trekboi - April 16, 2011

soft is the word.

42. virgin vulcan basement nerd - April 16, 2011

I can’t wait for this freakin movie! We we we so excited. We so excited…

Brent Spiner deserves a role as the Soong between Arik and Noonian. Just my opinion. lol.

43. Devon - April 16, 2011

#10 – The writers never said those things.

If one is going to accuse the writers of doing things, at least tell the truth.

44. Bucky - April 16, 2011

So does “soft prep” mean that if someone asks a designer what they’re working on they just shoot them an angry glance and go “SHHHHSSSSHHH!!!”

45. Harry Ballz - April 16, 2011

When a guy is about to make love to a woman and says he is in “soft prep”, he really should be HARD…………………………………ER ON HIMSELF!

46. Jack - April 16, 2011

45. sigh. ;)

47. PG - April 16, 2011

I think people who think just because they’re taking their time that it will be a quality sequel are nuts. It’s to the opposite extreme…

It’s clear these guys have put this project on the bottom of their list of things to do….And if I was the head of Paramount, I probably would have hired new writers to have gotten this thing ready to shoot 6 months ago.

Let some other creative minds take a stab at Trek. Orci and Kurtzman did a great job of making it relevant again!

48. DeShonn Steinblatt - April 16, 2011

31.

The world is not going to slow down for you, and neither are movies. Make an effort to catch up and you won’t hate “today’s movies” anymore.

49. Phobos - April 16, 2011

@47
I agree with you.
I truly respect Orci and Kurtzman for ST1 and their involvment with fans. That being said, if I was the head of Paramount I would be worried.
The procrastination was and is obvious. Now they will rush things out with unpredictable results.

50. Phobos - April 16, 2011

and to be fair, Paramount is partly to blame as they have not properly supported the writers financials over the last couple of year while DreamWorks has.

51. Phobos - April 16, 2011

By the way, since soft-prep is here, has anyone checked up on Pine, Quinto and the others to ensure they are in the gym and not getting fat? They will soon be called into action.

52. Hateya - April 16, 2011

@Boborci,

Can we get some FOILERS now? I love foilers. The more insane and off the beaten path, the better. Imagine us in here screaming, yelling and typing in ALL CAPS about something that never had a chance in hell of being in your script anyway!

Congrats on getting to this stage!

53. Jim Nightshade - April 16, 2011

yeh well bob n alex did such a great job making trek relevent again–guess what-we want them to do it again–what makes ya think its on the bottom of their list? i dont mind time being taken as i prefer that to a rush job—some of us still have faith bob–carry on talented sir—

54. Buzz Cagney - April 16, 2011

Its hard to believe its pretty much two years since the last one!
Here’s hoping the next one surprises and delights even more than ’09 did!

Bring it on boys. I can hardly wait.

55. DJT - April 16, 2011

You can do it!

56. Devon - April 17, 2011

“It’s clear these guys have put this project on the bottom of their list of things to do….”

Not sure how one can conclude that when they are writing the film as we speak and have been for the last few months.

“And if I was the head of Paramount, I probably would have hired new writers to have gotten this thing ready to shoot 6 months ago. ”

I can’t see that being a good decision.

The story has been in serious development I believe for a year or more now. However, O&K had other projects that they were hired to do and had to get those done first since they were coming out a lot sooner and Orci even offered a little bit of the process, especially with Cowboys & Aliens. It would make absolutely no sense in the slightest to make Star Trek a priority over the other projects like Hawaii 5-0, Cowboys & Aliens, etc which were coming out first and needed to be done first. I’m sure these writers have not been gainfully employed and sought after over their reputation of letting studios and producers down, being constantly “late,” etc. However, their priority is now Star Trek.

#49 – How did they “procrastinate?.” I am really astonished at some of the comments coming here from people.

57. Devon - April 17, 2011

^^My previous post was almost all in response to #47, BTW.

58. Anthony Thompson - April 17, 2011

49. Devon

“How did they procrastinate?” The original due date for the sequel script was X-mas, 2009. Then it was X-mas, 2010. Then we heard “by the end of March, 2011″. It is now 4/17/11. And the script still isn’t done. If that isn’t procrastination, what is???

59. Harry Ballz - April 17, 2011

Orci is trying to tell us something in code. Notice that the phrase “soft prep” is an anagram for “SOFTER PP”, which should tell anyone here that URINE FOR A HEARTFELT STORY. That’s what I take from it, anyway.

60. Devon - April 17, 2011

#58 – “How did they procrastinate?” The original due date for the sequel script was X-mas, 2009″

What “due date?”

“It is now 4/17/11. And the script still isn’t done. If that isn’t procrastination, what is???”

Procrastination is implying that they simply weren’t bothering to do it at all or just intentionally pushing it off which we know isn’t the case as I stated earlier in the same post you replied to.

61. Keachick - April 17, 2011

They are arguing over whether to film the next movie should be in 3D or not and that would affect how the story is told, as in scenes and dialogue etc. Judging from the poll being taken on the 3D question right now on this site, the present 72% against 3D could have the studio doing a rethink – maybe.

A lot of movies seem to be dark (getting darker) in almost every respect and sense. I think Star Trek needs to do what it did when it first came to our attention in the 1960s, by boldly going where people have not gone (for a while now), and bring a lighter (as in colourful and vibrant) feel and sense to the sequel movie. If filming it in 2D makes this more feasible, then it should be done in 2D.

#59 – Harry – “urine for a heartfelt story”? What on earth are you on about, apart from what appears to be a need of yours to empty your bladder, hence the reference…? I mean, do we really need to know this? ;)

62. Keachick - April 17, 2011

Edit: Delete “should be” in first paragraph. Grrr.

63. Janice - April 17, 2011

“Soft Prep”?? Sounds to me like it’s slowly moving forward and I can’t wait for more info.

All I want is this—-PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE—-PUT PIKE THERE!!,
I REALLY want to see Pike (Bruce Greenwood) in the sequel.

64. Hugh Hoyland - April 17, 2011

I thought DL was working on the script for Riddley Scotts movie.

65. Nemesis4909 - April 17, 2011

June 2009 release date, I’m somewhat sceptical about them making that, and if they do of what quality will it be?

It’s in danger of now becoming a rush job. I’m concerned.

66. Varda - April 17, 2011

Uh. Don’t know how I feel about this ‘soft prep’. The fact that the script still isn’t finished kills the buzz. I’m torn between “hey, they haven’t finished the script because they’re taking time to make something just incredibly awesome and it’s a relief” and “the script still isn’t finished. Running short of ideas ? :S” and in that case, rushinf into it might not be such a good idea.

But mostly I’m just trying to stay optimistic. (And I keep faith in the writers. Was wondering about sending some good homemade cookies as an encouragement by the way.)

Also, totally agree with 31. I want a sequel that matches/tops the intensity of STXI’s opening scene. ^^

67. me - April 17, 2011

” No Bob, don’t “blow us away”… at least not in the way that people tend to think that means (read: Transformers and Trek ‘09)

I want to think, care, laugh, cry, and be scared and exhilirated. I want to think “wow, Kirk is cool”, and “go Enterprise, go!”

What i don’t want is the feeling of being “blown away”… the feeling of disorientation, confusion, frustration, crossed-eyes and exhaustion I get from so many of today’s movies.

PLEASE don’t make this movie like, frankly, so many of your others. Don’t make it an assault on the senses. Make it an assault on the emotions.

Agreed!!!

But as Spock would say unprobable.
Shakespeare would be poor & unemployed if he was born in the 21th century. Nobody buys that stuff anymore. Nowadays the ppl demand to shut off their brain for 2 hours.

68. trekker 5 - April 17, 2011

YES BOB,BLOW US AWAY!!! YES AGAIN!! we are dieing here!! give me something 2 make me exiced! tell us something that we can talk about! please Mr.Orci?

69. trekker 5 - April 17, 2011

and #67, hey! i love Shakespeare!!! i also agree with #66.

70. Aurore - April 17, 2011

“tell us something that we can talk about!”

Obviously, I’m not Mr Orci .

However , as one of his many consultants ( he used that term once, I swear), I

can tell everyone this ; Kirk and the Enterprise will be in it ( the sequel).

:)

71. Anthony Thompson - April 17, 2011

60. Devon

If you’ve been on this site for any length of time you’d know that Paramount signed Bob and his partner to write the sequel script before the first film was released. And, yes, the original due date was indeed X-mas, 2009.

72. trekker 5 - April 17, 2011

#70 duh,i know that!! i want something new 2 talk about! u know,like may b 1 little tiny bit about the story or something. something,(and i quote me here,),2 make me excited!

73. Ray - April 17, 2011

@71 – does it matter when the due is/was? It’s not our film; it’s not our headache/problem. We’re just the audience.

74. Aurore - April 17, 2011

72.”duh, i know that!!”

Of course you do.

Look , I said I was one of Mr Orci’s consultants.

I never said I was the best !!!

:))

75. Chain of Command - April 17, 2011

These early talks about the next movie still feel better to me than what we’ve heard in the past.

Anyone remember this?:

“Well, we’ve never done a film that I wouldn’t say to you at this stage “this is going to be the biggest and the best.” And there is no difference with this one. We have a writer who has never done Star Trek before and has an extremely fresh approach to this. We are dealing with a story that is extremely poignant in ways that I wish I could tell you. It is a story that will focus around a remarkable villain and is a very action-oriented space film. A lot higher percentage of this film will take place in outer space than in our previous films. It is tentatively scheduled for Thanksgiving of 2001.”

76. Anthony Thompson - April 17, 2011

73. Ray

Good point. But it may become our problem / headache when we pay our hard-earned dollars next year to watch a film that’s not as good as it could have been if it hadn’t been rushed due to unnecessary delays in the writing process.

77. Trekprincess - April 17, 2011

Now we’re getting somewhere :):)

78. Jack - April 17, 2011

61. They are arguing over whether to film the next movie should be in 3D or not and that would affect how the story is told, as in scenes and dialogue etc. Judging from the poll being taken on the 3D question right now on this site, the present 72% against 3D could have the studio doing a rethink – maybe.

Wow, how do you know this? ;) And I mean that in a “wow, do you have inside information?” way.

79. Dee - lvs moon' surface - April 17, 2011

# 51 – Phobos

Do not worry about it… I saw pictures of ZQ recently and he looks great … and about Chris Pine … although it seems that he is hiding in a rabbit hole lately … lol … the last photo I saw him last month… wow he still absolutely stunning … +LOL

And it’s clear that the actors should be kept informed about what matters! … I hope!

:-) :-)

80. Jack - April 17, 2011

74. And this shows how gullible I can be, but are all fans here “consultants?” Or is there really a special secret focus group? If so, where the heck do I apply? ;)

81. Jack - April 17, 2011

61. PS. I now realize this may be in the video, which I couldn’t watch because I’m on an iPad right now. Still a little sleepy on Sunday morning.

82. Charla - April 17, 2011

In regards to the comments about procrastination from the writers, I don’t think it is procrastination or having to rush the script for Star Trek. This is their profession and are likely very capable of juggling multiple tasks at once.

I love the comparison that Bob gave of the audience responding like an orchestra too- that must be so gratifying to see the response intended from the viewers. I am satiated now after seeing the interview (at least for now!)

I have a question that doesn’t really belong here, but there hasn’t been an appropriate area to put it under, so here goes- Is Michael Giacchino going to be working his magic again with Star Trek again? I hope so, I enjoyed the music and look forward to when and if they release an extended version from 2009. (it was said here that this was going to happen, hope it’s true)

The wait for the next movie has been a killer, but has been tolerable thanks to Trekmovie.com and Bob’s kindess to keep us informed throughout the long 3 year interim.

As for the script, I’m sure it’s coming along nicely- with the amount of time Bob spends here, do you really think he is going to give Star Trek anything less than his best?

83. trekker 5 - April 17, 2011

#74,Aurore,i like u. i don’t care if ur the best or not. i’m 1 of Mr.Orci’s consultants 2,i just don’t get in on every meeting,and i get antsy.

84. CarlG - April 17, 2011

What did they do with the sets they plan to re-use, like the bridge? Did it get torn down, put into storage, dismantled? Just curious if having some previously existing sets affects their “prep time”…

85. Dom - April 17, 2011

I love how people who clearly have no knowledge of the business are jumping to wild conclusions about the screenplay and state of the film. What will be will be. Have some patience!

86. trekprincess - April 17, 2011

I think you are all right about me being obsessed with just the new Star Trek it’s something that made me into a Trek fan every fan has to start somewhere don’t they anyway looking forward to the next installment may I say that all Star Trek is brilliant not just the new film thanks :)

87. rvp - April 17, 2011

@51 All you have to do is google the actors’ names and click on “news” to see recent pictures and what they’ve been up to. In cases like Pine’s and Pegg’s and Saldana’s it’s very easy because the first two have been working a lot and the latter is a social butterfly.

@76 I completely agree. What makes me feel a little bit easy is that the Reboot Trek is more about feel than story. The story for the first one was lightweight, but they nailed the characters. If they do it again, it should be fun enough.

88. Keachick - April 17, 2011

#78 No, Jack, I don’t know for sure. It is just my best guess, given that another poll has just been taken on the 3D question. According to other posters here, doing a 3D format can have an affect on how dialogue etc is done. What disturbs me is why the whole whether or not to do the next Star Trek in 3D had not been resolved long before now, JJ Abrams signed on or a new director found. I’m not sure if we are being fed fine jersey cows milk or bulls milk…;)

#79 Do you mean those two pictures of Chris Pine at the Drama Critics Awards? Yes, that’s my honey, CP, “my captain”. Oh the wait…the torture…

89. Aurore - April 17, 2011

@80
74. And this shows how gullible I can be, but are all fans here “consultants?” Or is there really a special secret focus group? If so, where the heck do I apply? ;)

Jack, being a Star Trek fan, together with one’s very presence on this site are the only requirements needed to be considered a consultant.
That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

As trekker 5 noted , we, consultants , don’t get in on every meeting. This is our lot. I have come to accept it. In time, you will, as well.

There’s one important piece of advice I would, now , like to share with you as a new consultant. Often times, people will ask you questions on the status of the sequel. More often than not, the following type of answer will help assuage their impatience : ” As far as I know, no…I mean… it depends. Maybe.”

There you go.

:)

90. Bill Peters - April 17, 2011

Bob Orci,

I know what you will give us will be Awsome and yes Lighting in your case can strike many times and I know with each movie you give us you will in the words of Captin Pike ” I Dare you to do better”

91. trekker 5 - April 17, 2011

#89,Aurore,that was beautiful!!! (wipes tears) i give u a standing O!!

92. Dee - lvs moon' surface - April 17, 2011

# 88 – Keachick, hi…

I actually saw four pics … I think you have not visited the site IMDB lately, right?… I put another link there … the picture of CP with his father that night … is absolutely great!

:-) :-)

93. Aurore - April 17, 2011

Thank you ,trekker 5.

And,be strong, my brutha.

As you know, it’s an honour to work with Mr Orci . But, it is not always easy.

There’s no denying it.

Good night, everyone.

:)

94. JP Saylor - April 17, 2011

The last movie was a good movie, just not a good Star Trek movie. I felt like I was watching Star Wars. Half the time I had to remind myself that this was Trek. I mean, yeah I get that it was a prequel and all, but there was just so much crap that was wrong with it.

And the really crappy part is that they can’t change any of it (major stuff like the big E, Vulcan, and Amanda) because they would have to go against the last movie and confuse all the stupid people out there. And sadly, the stupid people have the most money/power.

BTW, I can’t BELIEVE that I heard them saying that Star Trek was classical music and Star Wars was Rock & Roll.. I mean, wtf? Star Trek is kick ass, the people who don’t realize that are retards and just sit around wanting explosions and cool special effects. (The new guys should get Michael Bay, he’s good with that crap.)

All of the Star Trek fans I’ve met with have said the same things to me. It was good movie, just not a good Star Trek movie.

Personally, I feel as though Star Trek (TOS up to ENT) was classic rock. And the new movie was some stupid remix that a rapper did that everyone will forget about in a few years.

Anyway, that’s my two cents. Peace and chicken grease.

~JP

95. Keachick - April 17, 2011

Yes, Dee. I have been to the IMDb board but I can’t open the one with Chris and his father. This is the only one I can see:

http://kadiith.tumblr.com/post/4088920709/chris-pine-at-the-la-drama-critics-circle-awards

I would dearly love to see the picture of Chris and his father. They both won awards that night. Congratulations to the Pine family!

96. Dee - lvs moon' surface - April 17, 2011

#95 – Keachick

I hope this works … :-) :-)

http://i56.tinypic.com/b8jv9v.jpg

97. Brian K - April 17, 2011

Y’all need to chill!!

As for deadlines, I believe the Dec. ’09 deadline was for the “story”. The Dec. ’10 deadline was for the “script”. There’s a BIG difference. The story was approved by JJ, the studio, and all involved, and work began on the script last fall. I for one don’t mind a few extra weeks or months for a fine-tuned script. That can make or break a movie.

I’d bet they’re farther along in the process than they’re letting on. The basic story was known and I’d bet pre-production work was begun. And I’d also bet that the story they decided on a year ago will blow us away. Call me an optomist if you will.

BTW, as I stated in another topic, I’m convinced this is all wrapped up with the about-to-be-hype-machine for Super 8. Picture this: JJ announces during press for Super 8 that the script for Trek ’12 is complete, he loves it, the story is amazeballs, and he will begin directing it this fall, while promoting his film. Big time hype and buzz for both flicks.

98. Jack - April 17, 2011

94. okay, I get if you think it wasn’t Star Trek, but how was it like Star Wars… other than maybe the (cool) hyperdrive-y warp effect and maybe (but not really) the (also cool) phaser gunfight.

But, really, Star Wars was completely different in pacing, tone, structure etc., wasn’t it? People here keep saying that (they got Star Wars, not Star Trek) but is it only because of the director saying he likes Star Wars? Heck, I like Star Wars but I don’t see the parallel.

99. Kirk, James T. - April 17, 2011

Oh Trekkers, they always have something to moan about… Star Trek fans who seem to think this film wasn’t Star Trek should really go back and watch The ORIGINAL Star Trek series – this movie was very much in that vein and for this day and age it was a Star Trek that didn’t just echo the past but also a Star Trek that was very relevant for today – far more relevant than the stagnant Voyager, Insurrection, Enterprise and Nemesis takes on Star Trek…

Star Trek wasn’t anything like Star Wars but I can see where the producers got their inspirtation from and why not, Star Wars is a classic that took its que’s from Star Trek: The Original Series in some form or another back in the 1970’s so it’s kind of fitting that now Star Trek is learning something from Star Wars.

I thought JJ Abrams actually made a better movie than George Lucas did with his SW prequels so all credit to him for reviving Star Trek by adding a bit of the punchy magic Lucas lost making his prequel trilogy.

100. Kirk, James T. - April 17, 2011

lets not forget, this movie should take less time to prep than the first. The Enterprise and its interiors are all designed and I’m assuming built, the costumes unless they change them are already made, the main cast are signed on, pre-production wont take as long because they don’t have to start from scratch.

The one thing I’d like to know is when will we know who gets the toy license :P FIngers crossed for Hasbro!

101. boborci - April 17, 2011

80. No secret group. Except those who post here!

102. boborci - April 17, 2011

82.

Thanks for the vote of confidence!

103. boborci - April 17, 2011

94. I love my Beatles just as much as I love my Vivaldi!

104. Phil - April 17, 2011

@80. I’m just a rumor monger. My money is still on that the script was done six weeks after the last movie was shot, the current flick has been shot and in post production, and Simon Pegg earns a bonus by spreading misinformation.

On to part III….cheers…

105. Devon - April 17, 2011

#71. – There was no “due date.” The writers said they had hoped to do something by the end of 2009 possibly at one time. Even as of October 2009 it was expected that the sequel would have a 2012 release date so the writers were hoping in mid 2010, but then and Cowboys & Aliens came along. Those projects were coming out 2010/2010, they got the priority as well as anything else they may have been doing. There was no “procrastination” that I can see.

#76. – “But it may become our problem / headache when we pay our hard-earned dollars next year to watch a film that’s not as good as it could have been if it hadn’t been rushed due to unnecessary delays in the writing process.”

What “unnecessary delays?” They’ve been working on the script for a few months now, and the story has been in development for the better part of last year, and they were already beginning to wonder what they wanted to do in 2009 (I’ll refer back to Abrams talking about the sequel being an alagory, Orci saying that he was going to be reading other Trek novels for ideas and inspiration, the story meetings they had last spring/summer.)

106. Devon - April 17, 2011

#94 – All the Trek fans I’ve met said it was a good Trek movie and a good movie in general. How about that?

And before you start labeling people the way you did in your post, you might want to do yourself a favor and research Trek fandom feedback. The movie is rated very highly here and I’m sure someone wouldn’t appreciate being thrown into such careless categories because you simply have a different opinion of them.

107. Jack - April 17, 2011

103. Wait, so is Trek Vivaldi, then? It’s always seemed a little Beatlesier to me. ;)

While TNG was John Tesh, with random classical samples every time Patrick Stewart spoke…

108. Buzz Cagney - April 17, 2011

#61 What you need to understand about Harry is that while he sometime’s misses the target when it come’s to humour he is always happy to give it a go. And in the serious time’s that we are living in I commend him for even trying to give us a laugh.

109. cd - April 17, 2011

And would that make Star Trek 2009 Nickelback?
>;>}

110. Fabio Blanco - April 17, 2011

Who care? Now I read the Federation proposal I want THAT TV series!! u.u

111. kirk - April 17, 2011

Two plus years and still no script. With less than a year for release and visual effects. This film is going to suck.

Please get some real writers. All the talk about quality from the guys that wrote transformers and the guys that made Kirk captain with no experience lol. Yea totally believable.

These guys are hacks. Even their best work Lost made no freaking sense. They criticize time travel as weak story telling but use it in practically every Lost episode.

What a joke

112. Jack - April 17, 2011

109. Nice. My 70-year-old dad (accurately) called me a snob when I mocked a Nickelback song on the radio.

113. Jim Nightshade - April 18, 2011

Here we go again with the star trek 9 wasnt a trek movie n it was star wars–bull—how could any of u who think that be so mistaken? This Trek movie was more like classic trek than many other trek movies–the characters, the humor,the settings, the big e even bigger, the epic heroism,the fights, the exciting music n pacing—the epic scope–the great looking sets n effex,hey trek hasnt even had some of these things before-does that make it star wars–no–it makes it better than other treks n better than star wars-is roddenberrys vision intact? Mostly, rod says his parents would have approved–chris doohan als agrees–true nothing is perfect trek and once in a while trek 09 seemed to veer a bit from the trek we know–but the movie also appealed n appeared as fresh trek for the general audiences as well as most trekkers—-to me jj and bob n alex did the near impossible–reinvigorating trek making it fresh n epic n fun again, n looking like we always imagined trek could be—no one could ever mix this movie up with star wars–how ridiculous–this was trek at its modern best hopefully to appeal to yet another new generation or two as well as remind us trekkers of roddenberrys legacy of hope for our future–

114. jas_montreal - April 18, 2011

I was just rewatching Star Trek 2009 just now.

For curiosities sake… What IS the Fleet upto in the Laurentian System? Connection to the Trek sequel ?

115. Devon - April 18, 2011

111 – No.

116. Aurore - April 18, 2011

“No secret group.”

I’m so glad the question of the “special secret focus group” has been addressed in depth, while I was sleeping.

That’s the kind of detail, right there, that lets you know the difference, between a boss and his consultants.

:)

117. Jack - April 18, 2011

114. Er, resinking Megatron?

118. Chris Pike - April 18, 2011

94. JP Saylor – April 17, 2011

And the really crappy part is that they can’t change any of it (major stuff like the big E, Vulcan, and Amanda)

there is one possibility (aren’t there always?) at least one of them….a nu-universe E refit 1701A – just a much earlier event in this universe???

119. Mark - April 18, 2011

Hopefully there will be a script this time. Although the track record of Kurtzman and Orci would suggest otherwise.

120. Christopher Roberts - April 18, 2011

114. “For curiosities sake… What IS the Fleet upto in the Laurentian System? Connection to the Trek sequel?”

Based on nothing, but if TNG “Yesterday’s Enterprise” was an inspiration for the Alternative Universe, then the rest of the fleet is involved in a prolonged war with somebody.

Seriously it would explain why Starfleet have Pike and other Captains trying to boost their recruiting quota in bars. Why Kirk went straight to being a Captain from the Academy.

Since the shock revelation of what Romulans look like now happens on the day of Kirk’s birth and not in 2266, during “Balance of Terror” when it ought to have done… add those two factors together.

Plus when Nero attacks Earth, aren’t there Cadets running around saying Romulans are attacking… again? Or did I just imagine that….

121. captain_neill - April 18, 2011

94

I share your sentiments

The last movie was a great movie but I don’t feel its a very strong Star Trek movie.

But to say it was totally not a Star Trek movie may be a little inaccurate. Its not Star Trek as I like it but it did have the fun and adventure spirit that was in TOS which I loved very much. But there were elelments of the movie that I did not think was good Star Trek.

I know that the film was made for a different audience and I know that things had to happen quickly hence the very rapid promotions. As a stand alone film I think all these things work.

I am excited for the next movie despite some of the thngs done in the last movie that I was not happy about.

Its new canon now.

And also I seem to get annoyed at the criticisms towards the later spin offs. Those who stayed for the full 4 seasons would have noticed a strong improvement in Seasons 3 and 4. The Xindi arc was amazing and added a cool darker tone to the show and the fact that Archer seeks a peaceful solution and ends up making peace with most of the Xindi keeps with the Trek ideals while the Reptillians kept the risk on their mission towards the end.

122. jas_montreal - April 18, 2011

Looks like the Laurentian System is the location of Rura Penthe. Nero’s attack on the klingon fleet, issued a distress call.

http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Laurentian_system

123. SoonerDave - April 18, 2011

All this discussion and begging for teasers, rumors, and spoilers has to make the team doing the work LOVE to spin the fandom as they hang on every word, nuance, and inflection of everything they say….reminds me of some ol’ country song from a few years back….”let’s give ‘em something to talk about…a little mystery to figure out…”

There’s probably a really geeky country-trek mashup in there somewhere…

124. Damian - April 18, 2011

114–I think the next movie should take place in the Laurentian system, just so I can know what is so important about it. You ever notice how the fleet is never there when you need them?:)

Anyway, hope for a great movie. Keep the ball rolling and get some more fans on board.

125. Jack - April 18, 2011

122. wait, so wouldn’t Pike know why the fleet was there (he knew it was there)? not that Nero had done it but that the ENTIRE fleet was responding to the destruction of Klingon fleet. I guess it could have been super top secret, but… And, would Klingons (Star Trek VI aside) issue a distress call?

126. Christopher Roberts - April 18, 2011

122. Blows my theory about Romulans outta the water then.

Of course, *ahem* comic-books aren’t canon, if the Laurentian System needed to be moved to serve a different story direction.

I echo what 125. has said. Also why would the whole fleet (those not being laid to waste at Vulcan) be in the one place? Starfleet should know better than be fooled into entirely believing a Klingon message, to assign the bulk of its forces there, on a neighbouring power block’s say-so.

127. John from Cincinnati - April 18, 2011

Hi Bob-

The Beatles, Kennedy, original Star Trek. We have a lot in common!

Thanks for your hard work.

128. Christopher Roberts - April 18, 2011

Isn’t Laurentian System a bit human sounding, for the location of Rura Penthe? Neither Star Trek VI or ENT Judgment specifically state where the penal colony is. So wouldn’t it be somewhere in Federation space bordering an agressive neighbour. Somewhere disputed.

129. Shannon Nutt - April 18, 2011

This reminds me of the first Star Trek movie, where they had a starting date but no script…Roddenberry was noted to say at the time “We’re lucky – a lot of people have scripts that don’t have a starting date!”

130. dmduncan - April 18, 2011

BOB. All this Trek talk is great. But seriously? When are you guys going to make a movie to go along with this “trailer” before it’s too late? You know whats going on. A fictional story about how all this ends is begging to be told — BEFORE it happens.

Some people are so asleep they are only going to get it when they see it in the movies.

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/new-world-order-fema-camps/939a01ad28fde24e9b34939a01ad28fde24e9b34-635218887310?q=fema%20camps

Sorry to disturb your naps, fellow Trek fans. But I don’t care.

131. Keachick - April 18, 2011

#120 – “Seriously it would explain why Starfleet have Pike and other Captains trying to boost their recruiting quota in bars. Why Kirk went straight to being a Captain from the Academy.”

What “other Captains” recruiting in bars? The recruiting quota comment was made by Kirk. Personally, I think that Captain Pike came headhunting for Jim Kirk. I don’t think that Pike just looked up Kirk’s file while he was drooling on the floor. He did not need to, he knew what was in it and that is why Pike was in that bar. As for Kirk becoming captain, well, you don’t just waste or squander talent…Kirk works/thinks best on his feet.

Bob!? Please – when will soft prep become “Pre-production”? Soon, very soon? Pretty please…
Another person who has eclectic tastes in music. I like that.

Dee – Yes, I have finally been able to see the picture. They look so good! Thank you.

132. Daoud - April 18, 2011

To quote Larry de Guy du Cable,

“GET ‘ER DONE!” :)

133. Daoud - April 18, 2011

He also says, “you ever wonder why it takes ‘em longer to make the next Star Trek movie, than it took to make the whole first three seasons of Star Trek?”

134. Christopher Roberts - April 18, 2011

131. Speculation on my part. There are no other Captains recruiting in bars on screen… since the writers only concerned themselves with Kirk and Spock at this point. Just my theory that perhaps fewer people are signing up to join Starfleet, and the organisation would naturally want to do something about that. Like the way the Navy traditionally touts for recruits during wartime.

Headhunting? Yeah that’s possible… I guess. It presupposes that Pike went there to get Kirk and it wasn’t just a lucky happenstance.

135. ShawnP - April 18, 2011

Am I the only one who thinks “soft prep” sounds dirty?

136. Aurore - April 18, 2011

“Am I the only one who thinks “soft prep” sounds dirty?”

No.

See post 45.

But, honestly, to me, it does not sound as dirty as “Amazeballs” does.

No offence to Simon Pegg. Of course.

:)

137. Dee - lvs moon' surface - April 18, 2011

Well maybe I was not able to express myself right … then… I deserved it … sorry, Anthony Pascale!

:-) :-)

138. gingerly - April 18, 2011

@136

What about soft prepping amazeballs? ;)

139. Aurore - April 18, 2011

@137.

Oh my god !!!

HOW DARE YOU ? HOW DARE YOU?

This is NOT that kind of site!!!

Good night, madame!

:))

140. Aurore - April 18, 2011

@137= Good night, Madame gingerly!

:))

141. Anthony Pascale - April 18, 2011

Bob,

So TrekMovie commenters are now part of a secret cabal that are guiding the future of the franchise? Cool. I think we should all get hooded cloaks, a secret symbol and of course a secret handshake.

142. jas_montreal - April 18, 2011

@ 141

Anthony, you should start a fan-club and charge administration fee’s for it. The Star Trek Guild.

143. Daoud - April 18, 2011

The secret handshake of course involves a Vulcan salute… but I’m not sayin’ what you’re supposed to put between the fingers!

144. Aurore - April 19, 2011

April 19, 2011 . 8:59 (here).

WHAT?!

What happened?!

No post by Mr Orci while I was sleeping?!

What is going on, here ???!!!

:))

145. captain_neill - April 19, 2011

141

The Cabal are receiving orders from the distant future to make sure that Star trek XII is a great film with a good script.

Good Luck Bob.

146. Aurore - April 19, 2011

Not that I’m complaining or anything, but,where is everybody ?

Earlier on (8:59 AM, where I live) there were few comments. And now….

Usually, the too few meetings I’m allowed to participate in, are conducted when

I’m sleeping. But, today, I wonder if ….

Are there some “very special meetings” somewhere?

Yes. I know . I should get a life. I will.

After visiting a few threads.

:)

147. Joel T. McGrath - April 19, 2011

Bob, first time poster, long time fan.

I’m the author of YA novel called Shrouded Secrets, and if I were ever fortunate enough to have it optioned, I would need just one major input for the movie, and that would be a killer musical score like the one from the 09 Star Trek. It gives me goosebumps every time I watch it on dvd, so can you guys at least confirm that the talents of Michael Giacchino will be on the 2012 credit line.

148. Keachick - April 19, 2011

#142 – No fees. This is a *secret* voluntary organization and better believe in the sweat on the brows of someone of us doing all the hard thinking and creating…;)

149. Charla - April 19, 2011

Anthony, can you throw us a bone about the music? ;) I’m not sure Bob would know at this point or not- I would think he (M.G.) would do it. Giacchino’s music was icing on the cake so to speak!! Hope he is on board for 2012!

dmduncan- I seen your post and know you are wanting an apocalyptic movie… Times are bad-true that but this is Trek- let’s forget the “real” world for a little while. *cheers*

Thanks again Anthony ahead of time-

150. Green Blooded Bastard - April 19, 2011

I find it revealing that they didn’t think the film title would attract the caliber of actors it did. I think of selling a film to the actors you want to play the parts similar to retail sales. Start with the top, work your way down. You got nothing to lose.

Besides, they might be high-profile, red-carpet actors, but they’re still just people, and the whole reason they got into the business (if they’re honest about it) is because it allows them to play make believe and get big-bucks for it. Who wouldn’t want to play a cowboy with a laser-gun?!?!

Have a little more confidence in your salesmanship there, Bob. You sold Harrison Ford for heavens sake!

151. captain_neill - April 20, 2011

149

While not as good as Goldsmith or Horner, I agree tha Giachino’s music was fantastic.

Didn’t like it as much at first but when I heard it a few times andbought the expanded CD I really loved it more.

152. Let Them Eat Plomeek Soup - April 20, 2011

@58:

I had no idea. Wow. Maybe it’s a good thing I waited this long to become a Trekkie…

153. dmduncan - April 20, 2011

149: “dmduncan- I seen your post and know you are wanting an apocalyptic movie… ”

Believe me, I don’t. I get more apocalypse than I can handle from real life.

I would like to see more people in Hollywood wake up to what’s going on instead of propagating the left/right baloney. I think Bob gets it. But it needs to start coming across on TV and in the movies.

154. Phil - April 20, 2011

@ 120…and maybe 131…
Without thinking too much about the geopolitical Star Trek universe, young Kirks admission to the Academy is just a problematic as his automatic promotion to Captain. The movie establishes that some sort of standardized testing goes on at the civilian level, and apparently Starfleet has access to that (that by itself is unnerving). It’s just unimaginable that candidates for the Academy are apparently not evaluated, as Pike happened onto a barfight, identified young Kirk, and just told him to be at the shuttle the next morning?? If I were a young HS student, tested off the charts, made proper sponsorship and application to the Academy, took and passed all the enterance exams,evaluation boards, and PT – I’d be really pissed off to learn that I could have bypassed all that by getting s***faced drunk and brawling in front of a Starfleet captain. Really, that’s all there is to it?

155. Phil - April 20, 2011

153. dmduncan – April 20, 2011

Star Trek: Apocalypse Now. I understand Charlie Sheen is looking for work…

156. Bob Tompkins - April 20, 2011

I can see the ads now:
Coming Thanksgiving 2012: Star Trek 2012.
They are not going to be able to meet the early release date. No frakkinn way.

157. Charla - April 21, 2011

Captain Neill I haven’t seen the new cd- I will look for it now!! Thanks- I would think Giacchino would do it again.

And yeah I felt the same until I heard it again-with his explanation of how the crew had to earn the Star Trek theme. I appreciated his insight, and it really did work.

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