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Grunberg Co-Star Quinto Wants To Be New Spock December 3, 2006

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: ST09 Cast , trackback

Zachary Quinto, who plays the villain Sylar on the hit show ‘Heroes’ wants to be the new Spock. In an interview with the Pittsburg Post Gazette Quinto says "I missed the ‘Superman Returns’ boat, so I’m angling for ‘Star Trek.’ People are constantly telling me I bear some resemblance to Leonard Nimoy." He also joked about how he would get Heroes co-star (and Abrams best friend) Greg Grunberg to get him an in with the producer of Trek XI: "Maybe Sylar should tell Greg, ‘I promise I won’t kill you if you get me an audition,’ …We’ll see what happens." So add his name to the long list of those who want to be in Trek XI. If Abrams doesn’t opt for big name stars for Kirk and Spock he could do worse than Quinto. (thanks to Steve M. for sending in a Quinto/Spock photoshop image)
 

Comments

1. Adam Cohen - December 3, 2006

I barely remember him from 24, and I’m not sure if it was the character he was playing, but he seemed very young to me. And I’m not talking about physical appearance alone; he didn’t exude any gravitas (a Bauer trait) or come off as a wise, deep soul (Spock traits). I’m slightly skeptical.

I can’t recall the guy’s name, but what about the dude from HBO’s “Rome”?

2. Duane Boda - December 3, 2006

This guy has rocks in her fricking nuggin IF he thinks that having any sort
of resemblance to Leonard Nimoy (as it that matters and he doesn’t have) would warrant any consideration for the part of the lead vulcan in this film.
He should instead concentrate on what lead characteristics or qualities that he might be able to bring to any role regardless of the character.
Time for this guy to wake up and smell the coffee

3. Anthony Pascale - December 3, 2006

gee that seems harsh. I am a big fan of Heroes and he is doing good work on that show. JJ Abrams is also a big fan of Heroes so he is sure to be aware of this actor.

of course my stated preference is for Abrams to go for big names for Kirk and Spock…with Juaqin Phoenix as my optimal chioce as Spock.

4. Adam Cohen - December 3, 2006

This is the guy from Rome, Tobias Menzies:

http://www.estrellita62.de/Tobias%20Menzies.jpg

THAT is Spock.

5. steve - December 3, 2006

The one thing I think should be remembered in everyone’s fantasy casting is that these guys are the “young” Kirk and Spock, plus they may have to make several sequels over a span of some years before they reach middle-age. So I think any Kirk or Spock choice over 30 is too old (and any choice over 35 is WAY too old).

6. Adam Cohen - December 3, 2006

Steve, that’s assuming we know what the story is going to be. We first heard it was Starfleet Academy. Now, we hear it’s about Kirk’s first mission commanding the Enterprise.

Anthony, do you have ANY insights as to the time during TOS in which Trek Xi will be set?

7. Duane Boda - December 3, 2006

# 4 Yeah….that guy has a look that appears as though it was cast in stone.
I don’t know about a so called YOUNG Spock but he looks the part.

8. Adam Cohen - December 3, 2006

#7, it’s all about that whacky Vulcan aging. Ya can never tell how old they are!

PS Ray Liotta in a cameo as newly minted Commodore Christopher Pike, handing the keys to the ship to whomever they choose as young(er) Kirk.

9. Duane Boda - December 3, 2006

# 8 : Yeah…..I just looked up a image of Ray Liotta on google.com
Thats another EXCELLENT choice. Looks just like him. Darned if I can
remember but where was Kirks prior assignment before commanding
the Enterprise? They (Paramount) could tie in a story involving the ship
that Kirk is on with a story that Pike is on prior to moving on to a new
assignment. I’ll get back with ya…..any other fine ideas?

10. Duane Boda - December 3, 2006

# 8: Ok…..he was a Lt. aboard the USS Farragut. That could make for a interesting story IF it was properly fleshed out (handled) just a thought.

11. Adam Cohen - December 3, 2006

I believe Kirk was bumped up from Lieutenant to Captain immediately, right?

12. MichaelT - December 3, 2006

Adam, I don’t believe that was ever stated canon-wise. But I could be wrong.

13. MichaelT - December 3, 2006

and as for Sylar as Spock… hmmm I don’t know. I’ll watch Heroes closely Monday night.

14. THEETrekMaster - December 3, 2006

Well, I’m not Abrams, but I’d let the guy audition…

TTM

15. steve - December 3, 2006

Adam.
Per your response #6, even if it’s not Starfleet Academy, you’re still looking at guys under 30, in my opinion.Shatner and Nimoy were in their early 30’s when they made the pilot (34 to be exact)..Plus, like I said previously, if sequels are made over the years, I would think the producers would want someone young enough to handle the roles 10, 15 years down the line.
I’ve never watched “Heroes”, but this guy Quinto looks pretty good in the photos. At any rate, the next year sure is gonna be fun to watch!

16. Picardsucks - December 3, 2006

Andy Samberg from SNL looks like Nimoy – Very much so in fact. He is in his mid 20’s. Don’t know if he can act but he does look alot like young Nimoy

17. JON - December 3, 2006

Stern,distinguished ,austere,sophisticated, authoritative.And have Nimoy’s characteristic Vulcan appearance?.Good luck Spock hopefuls.

18. Adam Cohen - December 3, 2006

Question: if anyone knows the answer to this, chime in–

How soon before TOS did Kirk take command of the Enterprise? Months? A year? My point for asking is that if this is in fact the “first adventure”, they can skew to actors in their 30s. I agree with steve (#15) that from a production standpoint, if they want a new “franchise” they will be better off casting young actors, but there is some flexibility built in with respect to age.

And that point raises another question- what is the long-term plan for what follows this movie? It seems like most producers like the trilogy format (Spider-Man, X-Men, The Transformers is slated for a trilogy, and I think the next Bourne movie as well). If the trilogy plan is in effect here, then you can assume they will make Treks XI-XIII over the course of a ten-year period.

And a third question, more an opinion based one, should this prequel be the basis for the next phase for Trek? Since hearing that they were going to do a young TOS movie, I was skeptical of the worth of a new franchise based on old characters (with new actors). It is too early for me to judge whether they should extend this concept past one movie (because who knows what the concept ends up being at this point) but I have doubts about this being a viable way to re-start an ongoing franchise. As I said in another discussion, it seems like there is no Star Trek Czar making these decisions (film and tv are not under one roof now). What we need is more information.

19. EBAR - December 3, 2006

I don’t want to see another actor portray Spock (or any of the other original actors). This is a really, really, really BAD idea.

20. MichaelT - December 3, 2006

Scott… you are such a fountain of confidence. Are we holding a place in line for you at the movie? Looks like you’ve already decided it’s not worth your admission.

21. Cap'n Jack - December 3, 2006

If it’s Kirk’s first mission in command of the Enterprise then they need to have Gary Mitchell on board. Hmm. I have no idea who I’d cast are Mitchell. Ray Liotta would be great as Pike.

22. senya cartel - December 3, 2006

Yes, Gary Mitchell should be there. If it’s Kirk’s first mission in command of the Enterprise, there’s no McCoy either. I’d guess the time period is prior to Kirk commanding the Enterprise.

With Shatner and Nimoy likely contributing a cameo or flashback sequence and no Deforest Kelley available for that sequence, it’s pretty likely it will take place no later than TOS episode “Where No Man Has Gone Before”. But then, Spock served with Captain Pike “11 years, 4 Months, 5 Days” (as Spock says at the beginning of the Menagerie).

My guess is the timeframe is at least 12 years prior to “Where No Man Has Gone Before”. Unless they want to disregard canon.

My problem with disregarding Canon is something as annoying and completely unnecessary as what happened in Nemesis — when the State of the Art Enterprise-E suddenly started firing off *Photon* Torpedoes again for the first time in almost a decade.

Please – be artful about how the story is crafted and for godsakes, don’t pick actors that are going to become a primadonna about typecasting and salary after the first movie has been made. How bad would it be for Trek if Matt Damon plays Kirk for one movie and then refuses to return for the next one?

23. Anthony Pascale - December 3, 2006

fanon is not canon

and canon isnt as important as telling a good story

24. senya cartel - December 3, 2006

Agreed, but I believe Nemesis wasn’t all that good of a story either.

Trek is such a big universe, it it really that hard to have an original idea without having to trample the backstory?

I do hope the next story is good and as much as I detest prequels, I hope it is done well with actors that do it justice.

25. Bill Hardin - December 3, 2006

I agree with Anthony Pascale. The story is the key to reviving or rebooting the franchise.

Battlestar Galactica has proved that fans will accept new actors in familiar roles (and in Galactica’s case completely revamped roles). What has made the show a hit is the totally fresh and unexpected approach and storyline. I remember an interview with Edward James Olmos prior to Galctica’s debut. Olmos stated that fans should not expect similarities with the old Galactica. Was he ever right! And this is why the new Galactica has succeeded where the old did not.

I’ve heard the positions that state that Galactica did not have the legacy of Trek. However, the issue is that fans want something new and exciting. Most of the Next Generation films were just normal TV episodes extended to the theater screen (and not particularly well). Fans could see Trek dying long before “Enterprise” fizzled.

I never cared for the original Battlestar Galactica. The new version has me hooked. I think Abrams can do the same with Trek. Whatever form it takes, whatever changes are ultimately made, can things really get worse? Let’s give Abrams a chance.

26. Josh - December 3, 2006

I can’t think of any current actor that has the necessary gravitas to portray Spock.

Heath Ledger would be interesting, but he is commited to the Joker.

I think finding a Jewish actor should be a priority in casting for Spock.

27. Josh - December 3, 2006

^^^^^^

It’s a pity Adam Nimoy is a Director not an actor.

28. Miroslav - December 4, 2006

What about Croatian ER’ actor Goran Visnjic (dr. Luka Kovac) in the role of cpt. Pike?

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/heather113076/goran_visnjic.jpg

29. Sci-Fi Bri - December 4, 2006

I can dig it.

when is that script getting here?

30. Adam Cohen - December 4, 2006

You guys and your male models!

Newsflash, Nimoy was not an attractive man (at least not in a classical sense. Goran Visnjic? Zach Quinto? These are pretty boys! Nimoy had beady eyes, a long face and a large nose. He looked different, he looked like an alien with a face chiseled from stone.

Anthony, are you Quinto’s agent? Your photoshopping the hair and shirt is funny…

31. Dom - December 4, 2006

#18 Adam.

AFAIK the assumption in the Okuda’s Chronology is that ‘Where No Man Has Gone Before’ takes place a year into the mission and The Corbomite Maneuver a year after that, which makes sense, given the changes in uniforms, personnel, ship design etc.

I’m not sure of the Chronology’s veracity (strictly none, although it’s useful!), but it seems to fit. The cartoons could take place after season three, on the assumption that Chekov leaves after Turnabout Intruder.

Robert April’s appearance makes a nice bookend to the series, that way!

32. Adam Cohen - December 4, 2006

#32 Dom

Yeah, I totally forgot I own the Okuda chronology book. I’ll break it out later today. Thanks.

33. Dom - December 4, 2006

Lucky you!

I can’t seem to find mine!!!!

34. Josh - December 4, 2006

If we could sample Shatner and Nimoy’s DNA, we could clone them and accelerate their growth, thereby negating the need to recast.

35. Picardsucks - December 4, 2006

Andy Samberg – totally Nimoy check out the pictures at his IMDB page.

Gary Sinise – Dr. McCoy (if he’s aboard yet) Scarry dead on Dr. McCoy and it’s all in the eyes, great actor plays a great humanitarian grump, plus in his early 40’s he’s the right age

And it’s going to be Star Trek so no more talk of any of the lame ass spinoff actors being in this (No Bloody B, C, D, or E) You Next Gen fans go away and chant with your crystals or something. There ain’t gonna be any preschools or psychologysts or poetry readings or repressed asexual characters who are so intraverted they can only interact and emote on a holodeck with phantoms. We’re gonna have fistfights, real peril, real humanity, beautiful women enjoying being beautiful and being made love to by a man who enjoys and knows how to do so, friendship , brotherhood, real family, a real villian for a change, real stories of social consequence wrapped up in a gripping action adventure without being preachy like the Socialist Utopia Generation. We are going to have Star Trek. I trust JJ he’s a fan like all of us and I am looking forward to the ride

36. Kevin - December 4, 2006

I ‘d rather hear what Abrams says about casting rather than wishful thinking from the actors, however justified it may be. I’m one of those who think they’re looking for people in their 30’s. The poster kind of gives away the era, doesn’t it, unless Abrams doesn’t know how the shirts changed. Why not make the movie about the best part of the TOS era? Also, Battlestar, IMHO, shouldn’t be a template for this, it has a fierce fanbase, but a 2? rating and couldn’t make it on NBC. It’s a quality show but not a monster hit by any means.

37. Adam Cohen - December 4, 2006

A reminder at what Leonard Nimoy looked like during the period we wish to recapture:

http://www.framecaplib.com/mfulib/images/strigas/strig156.jpg

He doesn’t have a brotruding jawline (Andy Samberg), he’s not a pretty boy (Goran Visnjic) and he does not look nor act like Zach Quinto. Sorry.

Again, this is my guy, Tobias Menziez:

http://www.hbo.com/rome/img/episode/ep12/ep12_09.jpg

38. Anthony Pascale - December 4, 2006

I really don\’t think the main criteria for the new Spock is how much he looks like Nimoy. When you think of the whole cast it becomes quite daunting to match the look of Shatner, Nimoy, Kelly, etc. You got to get in the ballpark but what really matters is their ability to act the part.

39. JON - December 4, 2006

ALRIGHT #36 !!!

40. Picardsucks - December 4, 2006

thanks Brother.

41. Jeff - December 4, 2006

I’ve said it before I’ll say it again, Josh Hartnett is the closest to a young Nimoy I’ve seen, he even stands like him. Sinise is also a ringer for McCoy.

42. Adam Cohen - December 4, 2006

#39 Anthony

And that raises my biggest concern with this new movie- we’re expecting these actors to basically imitate Shatner, Nimoy, etc. The original actors are so unique in their presence and their mannerisms, I know at least for myself, the whole time I’m watching TREk XI, I’ll be sitting there evaluating how closely the new kids are imitating the original cast. This is the Trek movie we want?

Yes, I know the whole James Bond argument comes into play, etc. But James Bond has been more “rebooted” than “recast” over the decades. Changing geopolitical conditions and new technology, etc. has put the Bond continuity into flux, and fans of that series know not to expect too much uniformity. In fact, part of the appeal of Bond is seeing new twists on old concepts (the Aston Martin, the gadgetry,etc.). Abrams is going for a straight “period-piece” Trek movie. That’s a different approach than the Bond franchise.

43. THEETrekMaster - December 4, 2006

I agree. Gary Mitchell should be there (or at least get a cameo/mention) and McCoy should not be on the ship. Further, they should have those gooseneck viewers on the bridge stations and Captain’s chair. Further still, they should have those clear plastic communicators like they had The Cage and the same phasers. Starfleet uniforms should look like they did in Where No Man Has Gone Before.

Dat’s right! :-D

TTM

44. THEETrekMaster - December 4, 2006

No one other than Sinise should play McCoy. He’s perfect!

45. Anthony Pascale - December 4, 2006

you may be expecting them to imitate the original actors but I highly doubt that is what they will be doing.

in a way I think that some Trek fans may have a lot of trouble enjoying Star Trek Xi. They will be watching it through the lens of trying to ensure it fits in with their precise view of the trek universe…they will feel the need to match all continuity and have the actors believably be the exact duplicates, etc.

I suggest people view the film more broadly, if it helps pretend it is an alternative timeline or something.

but for the mass market, they will have none of these concerns…they will not have the performances of the particular actors so engrained in their psyches.

in general I suggest people relax and try to enyoy the movie as a movie…and not just part of hundreds of hours of a saga

46. THEETrekMaster - December 4, 2006

#38…that Tobias guy looks like a dead ringer for Nimoy!

Good catch dude!!!

TTM

47. MichaelT - December 4, 2006

#36
I skimmed the thread and I could have missed it, but who’s thinking this isn’t a TOS film?
Gary Sinise would make a very good Bones.

48. Adam Cohen - December 4, 2006

#46 Anthony

I will absolutely heed that advice because despite my concerns, I am extremely excited about TREK XI. But are we to expect “Academy” era TOS or “Kirk’s first command” from the new movie? I ask because I figure you may have an idea based on your ridiculously good connections/intelligence.

And your answer will help us better shape our debate in terms of acceptable ages for the actors. Basically, I want to be able to play “fantasy trek-casting” with a little more confidence. Thanks!

49. THEETrekMaster - December 4, 2006

“in a way I think that some Trek fans may have a lot of trouble enjoying Star Trek Xi. They will be watching it through the lens of trying to ensure it fits in with their precise view of the trek universe…they will feel the need to match all continuity and have the actors believably be the exact duplicates, etc.”

Well…Anthony as I have said countless times: You are THA MAN! But:

I want my fricking GOOSENECK monitors! Is that too much to ask? JJ just give me my gooseneck monitors and I will praise your movie from here to the Sigma Draconis! Oh…and it’s gotta have those WNMHGB uniforms!
And no McCoy on the Enterprise. Might be nice to see a phaser rifle like in WNMHGB too! Oh…and the Enterprise engine pods should have those spikes on them like in The Cage and WNMHGB!

That’s it…that’s all I want.

If just do all those simple things I will love Star Trek XI!

50. Duane Boda - December 4, 2006

# 47 the picture at # 4 is better then the one at 38…..check out # 4 if you haven’t already. Also….Adam chose with pinpoint accuracy the actor who has the look of Capt. Pike…..But as previously mentioned whats with the look IF you can’t walk the walk and talk the talk…..(do the job adaquately) right?

51. THEETrekMaster - December 4, 2006

Oh…forgot to say that I want to see those Rodent creatures from the planet Dimorus. You know, the ones that Kirk saved Mitchel from? We should see that. Work it into the plot…I don’t care how.

CGI animated rodent creatures running around throwing poison darts at the Enterprise crew!

Oh…and we need to see a scene where Kirk dumps Carol Marcus!

If it doesn’t have these things then the movie will SUCK!

Suck, suck, suck!

52. THEETrekMaster - December 4, 2006

#51…that pic linked in #4 (this is getting confusing LOL!!) looks very very much like Nimoy!

Unless the guy speaks with a pinched voice….I say hire the man to play Spock!

TTM

53. THEETrekMaster - December 4, 2006

Oh…one other thing then I’ll go for a while:

Those Rodent creatures on the planet Dimorus should have space technology with Gooseneck viewers attached.

If not, I’ll hate the movie.

I swear.

54. Adam Cohen - December 4, 2006

#51 I read somewhere else that Rob Lowe should be considered for Capt. Pike. I would prefer Liotta (yeah, I think he can act the part very convincingly, but in the interest of variety, consider Lowe if you like). Here’s a recent pic of the guy:

http://tinyurl.com/y29gbh

And of course, acting chops is necessary for any actor in this movie. But I wonder if there’s any chance they can use that software from X-Men 3 to de-age the original actors and let them have at it instead.

55. Duane Boda - December 4, 2006

# 55: Yeah…..he sort of looks like he could be Pike too but can you imagine the full time job of restraining him from chasing all those young skirts? Perhaps he should be a producer – have a job at hiring – I’m sure he’s already well versed in the antics of the casting couch…..but seriously he looks Ok.

56. FlyingTigress - December 4, 2006

#26

“Whatever form it takes, whatever changes are ultimately made, can things really get worse? Let’s give Abrams a chance.”

Be careful… Yes, they could.

57. Dom - December 4, 2006

#52. I thought Carol Marcus dumped Kirk, or at least refused to fly off into space with him for five years, keeping their son with her! I always assumed that was partly why Kirk was such an unconscionable skirt-chaser!

58. Adam Cohen - December 4, 2006

#57, good point re: #26. As far as I can tell this is not a “reboot” but instead a prequel. You can’t compare what was done with BSG to this project because they are not re-doing the concept from scratch. TREK XI is meant to be a part of the existing continuity.

A part of me wishes they would do a BSG reboot instead because it resolves so much of what we’re talking about here in terms of casting. I mean, imagine if you went full-tilt and had a cast like this:

Kirk: Russell Crowe
Spock: Joaquin Phoenix
McCoy: Sinise (cause he’s money!)
Scotty: Brendan Gleeson
Uhura: Halle Berry
Sulu: Don’t have a dream actor here
Chekov: Nor here

But you get my point, we could get right to new missions with a new crew told through a new vision. That’s how James Bond does it. Too bad that’s not what JJ is thinking.

59. THEETrekMaster - December 4, 2006

#52

I think you’re right on the Kirk/Marcus thing…how it ended…

60. THEETrekMaster - December 4, 2006

Sorry…#58, YOU are correct on the Carol Marcus thing…

61. THEETrekMaster - December 4, 2006

Anybody agree with me on my take for Star Trek XI? Ok who’s with me when I say “Bring on the rodent creatures and their poison darts!”?

62. Adam Cohen - December 4, 2006

#62 TTM

I think they did this story in a comic book a while back. It was called Star Trek: Debt of Honor, written by Chris Claremont. My memory is fuzzy on the book (which I still own but cannot find presently) but it was pretty good. Adam Hughes did the artwork, which was fantastic.

63. THEETrekMaster - December 4, 2006

That sound vaguely familiar. I’ll have to see if I can track a copy of that down.

64. New Orleans Saint - December 4, 2006

How about Jim Fitzpatrick for Pike. He played commander williams in Broken Bow on the series Enterprise.

http//imdb.com/gallery/hh/0280541/HH/0280541/PubPhoto.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Fitzpatrick,%20Jim%20(IV)

65. acb - December 4, 2006

#62 I dont know if u really need to go and show that incident. I think the focus can be more upon the friendship that Kirk develops between both Mitchell and Spock early on. The incident of showing them saving each other is not need, more of the notion to how and why they are friends is (which would be better shown through better means than a standard save me from the creature scenario)

#52 And yes the Carol Marcus thing really should be in this film. But i think they should have it unfold with Kirk weighing his options as to whether or not stay with her, making the chose to actually give up part of his career ambitions to be with her but then only to have Carol come and tell him that she can not be with him before he even gets the chance to tell her his decision.

66. Adam Cohen - December 4, 2006

Kristen Bell (Veronic Mars) for Carol Marcus!

67. acb - December 4, 2006

And as to the notions of casting new faces and how they will relate to the performances prior….. I for one believe that it is a much better conception to strive for believeability within the piece more than anything. Coming from a theater and film background, the best thing that one can do with this type of work is to make it as believeable for the audience as possible. that goes for both the Trek fans and the mass audience.

Casting known actors (especially within the A list range) is poor in choice because it will disrupt the viewing for both audiences. Fans will not open to the piece because it is being gimmicking in simply casting faces and names, and the mass audience will not accept the characters; instead be more willing to accept the actor/actress as simply “playing” the character. I find that most notions of feeling that a well known or recognized face for a role comes down to two forms of reasoning:

1. The simple notion of caring only for the profit value of a work and not any form of the creative.
2. Those who feel that there is no way to do such a piece without names make judgements to safely guard against a fear of the unknown. Just because we do not have a name at the top of our heads as to who will be the perfect Kirk or Spock does not mean by any means that there is none. It simply means they are not within our sphere of awareness, and stepping outside of said fear frightens many in Hollywood. (oddly enough when it is done however with the proper intentions it does better both creatively and financially: ie. Christopher Reeve- Superman, Christian Bale- Batman, Russel Crowe – Gladiator, Harrison Ford + Mark Hammill+ Carrie Fisher – Star Wars)

And any such new actor to take on the role should not be judged to totally mimick the roles they now dawn; at least not if it is indeed dealing with their young incarnations. The characters we know have grown into who they were with the assumption of 15+ years of experience. People change over time, so the actors/ actresses do not have to be 100% Shatner or Nimoy in portrayl….but they should be at least 50%. After all, they are taking on characters who where portrayed some quarter of a century by the same actors. It is within the same grounds as if any actor were to portray a historical figure really; capture the inner workings of the person and what drives them and u unlock the character. Kirk and Spock are not only who they are because of how they moved or looked, but more importantly as to who they were internally and how they saw the world from each of their own standpoints.

68. Adam Cohen - December 4, 2006

Here’s Bibi Besch c. the age she would be when she and Kirk made their kid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bibi_Besch-cover.jpg

And here’s Kristen Bell at the same age:

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8283/051007kristenbellvlss0.jpg

If we all agree that Carol Marcus was a bit of a ball-buster, I think Bell is a perfect actress to pull it off.

69. Picardsucks - December 4, 2006

Russell Crowe would have been a great Kirk but he’s already in his mid 40’s. Could the much rumored Tom Cruise cameo be in fact Gary Mitchell????? (yes I know Tom Cruise is older than Russell Crowe but he still looks to be in his early 30’s must be a combination of botox and L Ron Hubberd mumbo jumbo with a dash of the ole closet) But he would be a good Gary Mitchell. And to # 48 , there are still people all over Trek sites begging for the Social Worker Generation to have another chance after Nemisis (oops shouldn’t it be Insurrection and Nemisis, oops shouldn’t it be everything but Unification, Yesterdays Enterprise and Relics) Sorry we strive for clarity. And all of these Jonathan Frakes posts of late saying he’s available. Frakes may be the only non prick in the bunch but I want him no where near our kitchen while we bake our Trek pie.

70. Adam Cohen - December 4, 2006

#70, my suggestion of Crowe is based on the idea that they reboot the whole show and start it off with a re-vision of the original 5-year mission (like Battlestar Galactica). For Abrams’ project, yes, Crowe is not appropriate.

71. Al - December 4, 2006

They could afford Crowe or indeed anyone A list. It will be someone out there in TV land.

72. FlyingTigress - December 4, 2006

#59

Unfortunately, the previous post about how long-time “Trek” fans would split a gut laughing at an “A list” actor portraying one of ‘our’ heros, and would more than offset any increased draw from Buffy and Todd going to see “Star Trek” because an “A list’er” were on there, is accurate.

I mean, there was the self-parody in Austin Powers 3 about that. It comes across as an SNL skit, or worse.

If one or two were “name” characters (Sinise, for example) , GREAT!

IMHO, Chris Reeves is a bad example to use (re: Superman). It isn’t as though re-runs of Superman (the TV series) were regularly playing, DVD sets of the original were available, etc. to contrast between the TV series characters and CR. Furthermore, TOS was the first iteration of the Trek story, where Superman was already on its 3rd or 4th time in ‘front’ of the public (Golden Age comic books, animated cartoons in the 40s, movies in the 50s, then the TV series) when it moved to the screen again in the 70s.

BSG 2003 works, again, partly because of the passage of time since the ’79/1980 series, and, partly because there weren’t THAT many episodes, nor, frankly (IMHO) that much of a cultural impact of the two series’. It had some following (BSG and G:1980), but, it was one small step away from Batman-style ‘camp’…

73. MichaelJohn - December 4, 2006

I’ve often wondered if Paramount could pull of a hilarious spoof of Star Trek on the big screen. With a great script it could be hillarious and a big moneymaker!

I’m all for more dramatic Star Trek movies and a new spin off series, but maybe a breath of fresh air is what Star Trek needs at this point in time. With the last two movies and the Enterprise series being borderline flops, maybe a comedy will give the franchise a well needed boost!

How about Jim Carey as Spock, and Mike Myers as Kirk? Yeah baby! Oh course Shatner would have to be in the movie too…he’s great at comedy and such a ham!

Ok guys..don’t hate me for writing this post! All is fine in the ST universe!

Long live Spock and Quark!

Mike :o

74. acb - December 4, 2006

#73 Actually Christopher Reeve fits in perfectly for comparison. Reeve was doning a character that, though reruns of the show were limited of George Reeve’s interpretation, the character itself had already taken on a certain image into the collective of society. What he did well was to take into account what made the character who he was and then allowed himself to done the persona, not attempt to play the “ideal” image of the character.

75. acb - December 4, 2006

#74 I am pretty sure there is some studio producer who actually presented the same arguement as well. They all go in similiar fashion to making Bill Murray Superman in ’78, Eddie Murphy Robin in ’92 and ’95, and Jack Black Green Lantern in ’09.

While we are at it, perhaps other works that were meant to be series should be re-interpreted as well. Blade Runner anyone?

76. Rick - December 4, 2006

Wow in response to 69. Adam Cohen – December 4, 2006 I didn’t image the show that a very young Bibi Besch was in. You see as a little kid growing up in NY I saw many a soap opera of that period as my stay at home mom had then on the tele as my little bros and I played in that same room.;) Of course I could of found this out on the imdb.com.;) Love this site and this is just my third post. Also fantasy casting is a hoot.

I still am not sure myself what form I would like this new STAR TREK form to take. But watching fan films like the very fun and cool STARSHIP EXETER has gotten me into the mood for some retro TREK on the big screen!

77. Dom - December 4, 2006

Wildly off-topic, but I picked up the animated Trek series box set today. I watched the first episode on the first disc and was very impressed with the story and acting.

I know it had the advantage of having many of the original actors’ voices on it, but if I can accept what looks like a cardboard cut-out Kirk and Spock with a shadow behind the cell, that sounds ‘right’, I’m positive I can accept a new actor who captures what’s ‘right’ about the character in the new film!

Oh and I vote for Krista Allen to play an Orion Slave girl!!! ;)

78. Anonymous - December 4, 2006

I wonder if the legion of Shatner imitations over the years will not make it very difficult for the re-cast actor to use similar sentence phrasings.. The ones with THE… pauses I mean.

If not, true canon hounds will have to claim that some terrible brain injury occurred after the movie but before the series, thus rendering Kirk unable to speak without halting mid-sentence.

79. MichaelJohn - December 4, 2006

Retro-Trek is the right direction! That gets my vote.

My idea for a DS9 motion picture can wait!

Mike :o

80. Adam Cohen - December 4, 2006

#77 Rick

Welcome to the party. This is the best Trek site out there. P.S. I just visited your site and I think your artwork is fantastic. Do you do private commissions?

81. Drew - December 4, 2006

#4 Yes, He would make a great choice to play Spock

82. Drew - December 4, 2006

#65

Ray Liotta very much looks like the late Jeffery Hunter (Pike)

83. MichaelT - December 4, 2006

And someone said THEIR post was left field… this one’s outta the park.

With apologies to Warner Bros…

Redshirts….as portrayed by Chicken Hawk, Tazmanian Devil
Uhura……… as portrayed by Tweety Bird
Chapel……..as portrayed by Road Runner
Chekov…….as portrayed by Pepe LePew
Sulu………….as portrayed by Yosemite Sam (best I could do)
Scott…………as portrayed by Foghorn Leghorn (Aye say, captain..)
McCoy……..as portrayed by Elmer Fudd ( never got along with Spock)
Spock……….as portrayed by Bugs Bunny (the ears sealed it for him)
Kirk…………..as portrayed by Porky Pig (not perfect, but the first guy was a ham too.)

The Evil Adversary… as portrayed by Wilie Coyote(Acme will provide the Evil Adversary’s technology and weapons…. anvils come to mind)

Time to smile folks….. take a minute.

84. Orbitalic - December 4, 2006

My guesses can be no more wrong than anyone elses

85. Orbitalic - December 4, 2006

and my guess is…. no A listers.

86. MichaelJohn - December 4, 2006

#84…you forget Daffy and Daisy Duck as Spock’s parents. They would make believable Vulcan-ducks!

Mike :o

87. senya cartel - December 4, 2006

Methinks that the TrekMaster is making fun of canon.

There’s a difference between being stupid about canon and hoping that we don’t see another poor attempt at originality – like the series Enterprise was.

The James Bond analogy someone else made above is similar. As a 30 year fan of the Bond series, I’ve rolled with the changes. I saw Casino Royale. Even liked the story more than I’ve liked some of the recent ones. Make the villian less laughable, darker, and more subtle? Welcome change. Delete the Q sequence? Fine, we can do without that. Do a prequel, um, alright I guess, since Ian Fleming wrote it. Delete Brosnan in favor of Craig, uh, why?

But there totally wasn’t any need to make Bond suddenly stop preferring his Martinis shaken. Exactly what did that add to the story?

Again, the point isn’t that canon is more important than story, the point is that being different for the sake of being different (or being lazy) doesn’t equate to good story.

…and step off the old Goose-armed viewers. Someone dancing around in the old Gorn suit would be better than watching a pouty young actor read Kirk like a bad reality tv show.

88. MichaelT - December 4, 2006

#84, continues, but why?…
I left out Daffy, he was unavailable due to contractual commitments to “Duck Dodgers in the 25 &1/2 Century XI”. Marvin the Martian too.
And Daisy was unable to get a release from Disney (or Donald) for appearance. Perhaps Granny?

Previous episodes are being redrawn( better ink). Fan sites are in an uproar over the remastered spit from Daffy’s beak…too much?..too little? Some are calling for the resignation of the art department at WB over the color of Daffy’s tights. And what exactly WAS he hiding in those loose tights..hmmm?
Some argue that the original episode is the one true art form with “resonance” and social meaning and subsequent episodes are shallow and that noone really cared for the nonsensical lines, or as the experts called it “Looneytuneybabble”.
Animation’s first inter-species kiss did occur in the 2nd flick between Dodgers (Mr. Duck) and the Road Runner…it did, however, appear in a dream sequence, so fans are split if this is truly canon. It did embarrass some viewers because no-one really knows Road Runner’s true sexual identity.

Imagine the voice over by Porky… “Space, de um de um fi-fi-final frontieerr….”

Or Fudd as Bones McCoy…”Damwit Jwim… I’m a doctour, not an enginweer…”

“All highly illwogical…” stated the charactor with the ears, carrot in hand…

89. Major Sluclio - December 4, 2006

The Guy from ROME looks a lot more like Stonn from Amok Time

I like Sinise as Bones… Robe Lowe actually could be Pike

90. MichaelJohn - December 5, 2006

#89 I know I would enjoy watching a Warner Bros. version of Star Trek, with Porky Pig in the command chair, a whole lot more than watching Star Trek-The Animated Series again!

For all those TOS fans out there that also love the animated series, I ask your forgiveness, because I really, really, really didn’t like the cartoon version of Trek at all! I guess it was fun to hear the voices of the original cast again, but the animation was just soooo lame!

Growing up in the seventies, Saturday morning cartoons were suppossed to be funny and geared towards kids. Why they decided to release ST-The Animated Series as a Saturday morning cartoon, competing against “Scooby Do” and “The Smurfs” baffles me to this day!

For those who loved the animated series and are eargerly awaiting for their DVD copy to arrive in the mail, more power to you! For me, Star Trek-The Animated Series can’t hold a candle to such classics as Looney Tunes, Popeye and my all time favorite- The Flintstones!!

Sorry for getting off thread!

Mike :o

91. Lukas - December 5, 2006

If you’re into the Flintstones and Star Trek, then I’m sure you’ve seen…

http://www.stonetrek.com/

If not, enjoy.

92. MichaelJohn - December 5, 2006

#92 Lukas Thanks for introducing me to stonetrek.com. Gosh it’s hilarious!

I guess the theme of that cartoon is: Star Trek meets Gilligans Island- meets Star Wars- meets 2001 a space odyssey- meets Lost in Space etc etc etc…

A wonderfully funny site for those that don’t take their Trek too seriously!

Long live Spock….and Quark!

Mike :o

93. THEETrekMaster - December 5, 2006

“Methinks that the TrekMaster is making fun of canon.”

No, not at all. I was just trying to be funny and apparently failed miserably. ;-) But, there was a kernel of truth in my lame attempt at humour. I honestly DO (although I won’t hold my breath) think it would be nice if Abrams makes it a period piece…but I highly doubt he will.

“There’s a difference between being stupid about canon and hoping that we don’t see another poor attempt at originality – like the series Enterprise was.”

I agree. The last thing I want to see is another Enterprise-like failure — and I don’t think The Franchise can survive another failure like that. I firmly believe, in all seriousness that the Abrams effort will be “the last hurrah” if it fails.

TTM

94. Flossy G - December 6, 2006

Bringing big name actors into this is a BIG mistake. Fresh faces are needed.
Please? And most of the actors I’ve seen listed here are TOO DAMN OLD for a young Kirk and Spock anyway.

95. Orbitalic - December 7, 2006

I caught Heros Monday night. I didn’t think Quinto was bad. But obviously the Sylar charactor is nothing close to Spock. I’m not an expert by any means…..I’d have to see him do other things to judge better.

O

96. alison - February 27, 2007

Tobias Menzies should be Spock. He’s a wonderful actor (Brutus in HBO’s Rome), looks the part and also importantly is great at comedy and drama. Check out You tube for some clips of him.

97. SeriesBlog.es » Blog Archive » Zachary Quinto podría hacer de Spock en la próxima entrega de Star Trek - June 10, 2007

[…] Algunos incluso se han atrevido a hacer una demostración de lo bien (o mal) que quedaría…Veremos en qué termina todo esto, pues en las webs “Trekkies” no le dan muchas posibilidades. Con todo, en Slice of SciFi han montado una porra con varios candidatos en la que se puede votar y en la que Zachary Quinto va ganando por goleada. Por supuesto, eso no significa, ni mucho menos, que le vayan a dar el papel. […]

98. Wyrdstuff » Star Trek XI: The Search For Kirk - July 10, 2007

[…] In other Trek XI rumors, the “front runner” to play young Spock could by Sylar. That’s right Zachary Quinto, the brain eater we love to hate from Heroes, has been lobbying for the role. He’s even gone so far as to hit up Abrams’ regular, Greg Grunberg. […]

99. TrekLog » Blog Archive » Zak Quinto als neuer Spock!? - July 12, 2007

[…] Wie wir bereits im Mai und Dezember berichteten, hat uns Zachary Quinto (IMDB), Star aus der Serie Heroes, in der Vergangenheit durchaus wissen lassen, dass er Interesse daran hat, die neue Version des Charakters Spock darzustellen. Wie auch immer, es scheint so, als wäre da mehr an der Story dran. Der Trek Movie Report hatte bereits ein paar mal davon Wind bekommen, dass es Gespräche zwischen Quinto und den Filmproduzenten gegeben habe, aber auch, dass noch kein Vertrag geschlossen wurde. Es ist natürlich fast unmöglich, alles Gesagte mit Verweisen zum Casting festzunageln, so dass dies hier zu diesem Zeitpunkt nur ein Gerücht darstellt, wie auch immer, es scheint so, dass CHUD auf dieselbe Spur gekommen ist. Sie berichten darüber, dass Quinto “in Verhandlungen” stecke hinsichtlich Star Trek’s neuen vulkanischen Wissenschaftsoffizier. Falls wir mehr erfahren sollten, werden wir’s natürlich weitergeben. Quinto’s Darstellung des Bösewichts Sylar in Heroes (wo er an der Seite von J.J. Abrams’ bestem Freund Greg Grunberg spielt) war ziemlich beeindruckend und hat um den 30jährigen Schauspieler geradezu einen Wirbel verursacht. Der Trek Movie Report hat erfahren, dass Paramount sich von dem Gedanken entfernt hat, “große Stars” für die Hauptrollen Kirk und Spock zu engagieren, und falls dem so sei, dann wäre Quinto eine ausgezeichnete Wahl. Hoffentlich werden wir mit der Comic Con mehr wissen. […]

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102. I hate Tobias Menzies - October 13, 2007

I wouldnt cast him in a soap opera. Im amazed he made the cut on Heros, I hope and pray that he doesnt get the role of spock. May be he could be spocks stunt man or his shoe shiner

103. Steve Savage - November 8, 2007

Its a tough casting in any case. Nimoy has such a unique face that it would be difficult to find a ringer, plus he was so very tall & skinny, an actor would have to slim down to get the sunken cheeks and frame necessary to pull it off convincingly.

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