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“Dagger of the Mind” Trailer [UPDATE: Plus Totally New Matte Painting] October 11, 2007

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: TOS-R Preview , trackback

10/11 UPDATE: CBS just released a brand new matte painting from "Dagger of the Mind" that replaces the re-used matte from "Where No Man Has Gone Before" in the original

Video preview below

The Remastered "Dagger of the Mind" airs this weekend

Video preview courtesy STARTREK.COM  (note updated station/air time guide)

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Comments

1. Al - October 8, 2007

Change the off switch to on!

2. Robo- guy! - October 8, 2007

This episode is so cheesy thats its actually kind of good. Kirk babe wasn’t half bad looking either….get her on the table and lets the suggestions fly. I’ll have to look up to see IF that
crazy bug eyed guy is still kicking – is he?

3. ety3 - October 8, 2007

I see they still have the “Where No Man” matte at the beginning of the preivew, since it was reused for this episode. I hope they change that.

4. The Lensman - October 8, 2007

Yeah, I hope they change the matte as well. It’s a cool painting, one of Trek’s best, but I’d like to see something new for the place.

5. Holo J - October 8, 2007

3 ety3

I was wondering the same thing. I think they knew this would be the big question for this episode. So right at the start of the trailer they show it’s still there unchanged. Knowing most of us probably would be wondering what the potential new matt could look like and would be discussing it on forums like this.

I was wondering would it have little CGI people walking about? and how would it be different but kept in a similar style?
But here’s the trailer and they have just put the old matt painting right at the start of the trailer, straight way almost to say, here the answer to your first question, ” the matt stays the same.

Now that is a real disappointment again not even sticking to the original brief because of having to rush season one out on to DVD for the suits. Unlike the morph effect that’s was added to last weeks trailer , I don’t think we have ever seen an old effect in a trailer that was then updated in the actual episode. If anything the trailer guys add effects that aren’t seen in the episode to make it look like more has been done.

Come on CBS this was crying out for something new, I am really not expecting much for the rest of this project now. I would love to see another edition of these episodes released on DVD with more time to make these as good as they can be for today.

It would be a more complete update when time isn’t against them. I like the idea of “The Menagerie” being show in the cinema, I would love to see double bills all the other episodes being shown also but with them really given the full treatment to the whole episode, effects and sound all Remastered, no opportunity missed.

6. Stanky McFibberich - October 8, 2007

How many times do people need to see that what is in the previews is not necessarily in the episodes? Maybe it will be….but…maybe it….won’t.

7. CmdrR. - October 8, 2007

Woop woop!
Helen Noel is a close second to Andrea from “Little Girls.” Gotta love plunging necklines in air vents.

8. RSull - October 8, 2007

Yeah, I have to agree with the above sentiments: while it is nice to see all the episodes in HD, this is an episode that is definetly not to be considered effects heavy. Therefore, shouldn’t be any problem in updating that matte like they did in “Blink of an Eye.” Guess we’ll know by mid-week when they release screencaps.

9. RSull - October 8, 2007

Plus, how hardcore would it be to see an opressive penal colony.

10. billy don't be a hiro - October 8, 2007

I’m expecting nothing more than beauty shots of the E and the matte, and the matte will probably be done to match the original as closely as possible. I’ve given up on hoping for anything extra anymore.

11. The Vulcanista - October 8, 2007

Feh.

I hope this broadcast is cool for the rest of you. Thanks to WSB in Atlanta, I’ve given up on *ever* seeing ST-R on TV again. I didn’t even bother to set my DVDR this weekend.

Peace. Live long and prosper. Everyone except WSBTV, that is.
The Vulcanista }:-|

12. Rich - October 8, 2007

11

I feel your pain. The station in Houston was putting it on at 11:05 on Saturdays. Sometimes it would be pushed back for sports, other times they decided to show an ??infomercial?? before the show. It started anytime from 11:05 to 1:15. Impossible to record via DVR. I gave up and stopped watching too.

The lucky thing is that it due to poor ratings (duh) it was moved to a local, non-network-affiliated station. It now comes on at 7:00 (previous ep) and 9:00 (new ep) on Saturdays!!!! Hang in there…and ask one of your local stations to pick it up!

13. Harry Ballz - October 8, 2007

Boy, Shatner really eats up the scenery in this one, doesn’t he?

14. Kyle Nin - October 8, 2007

Is the matte from the original “Dagger of the Mind” a duplicate of the one from “Where No Man Has Gone Before”? If it is, then the one shown in the preview is not the same. There are no structures above the domes in the background and the entrance to the building in the foreground is different.

15. paustin - October 8, 2007

welcome to the planet.-arium!

16. CmdrR. - October 8, 2007

Vulcanista, I’m with you. I can’t even set the alarm anymore because it’s too heart-breaking to hear “already in progress.”
I worked at WSB years ago. They sucked then. They suck bigger now.
Anthony… is there ANY news of someone playing TOS-R uncut? (Yes, yes, I know there are DVD’s but I’m a free TV baby.)
Oh, and WSB is owned by Cox (which really sucks.) They own Blockbuster. So, boycott Blockbuster to get back at WSB for killing Trek.

17. Andy Patterson - October 8, 2007

#2. I’ll have to look up to see IF that
crazy bug eyed guy is still kicking – is he?

That crazy bug eyed guy was Morgan Woodward who went on to play, IMO, the best Star Trek villain ever…Captain Ronald Tracy in the Omega Glory. He was a trained opera singer, hence the huge voice and dramatic delivery, and is a fellow Texan. He lives just a few miles from me in Arlington and lives in a gated community with the street named after him. I’ve always wanted to meet Woodward. He was Punk on the TV show Dallas later on.

The good looking chick in this ep, BTW went on to play Sonny Corleone’s wife in the Godfather. Love her. Love her. Love her.

18. Tony Whitehead - October 8, 2007

I remember back to when the remastering of TOS was announced…everyone was so concerned about changing one precious image of the show we all know and love.
It’s a testament to the work at CBS Digital that all us fans are dying for more! Last weeks “What Are Little Girls Made Of” had some of the finest exteriors of the Enterprise yet, in my opinion.
Way to go, guys!

19. girl6 - October 8, 2007

#17

Actually, Fredo’s drunk, blonde wife. ;)

Morgan Woodward was also one of the best villains in one of the best movies ever: “Cool Hand Luke”. He played the silent, menacing gun bull (prison guard) ‘Boss Godfrey’ with the mirrored aviator sunglasses.

Hella cool…

20. RSull - October 8, 2007

The matte is the same from “Where no Man has Gone Before” but with the minor changes you mentioned Kyle as a 1960′s attempt at both budget cutting and making something old look new again.

21. Andy Patterson - October 8, 2007

#19….No….I’m pretty sure she was Sonny’s wife. The one who was demonstrating the size of his manhood at the wedding for the other wives.

22. CmdrR. - October 8, 2007

re: the matte. If it is supposed to be a penal colony, why do they need such large tanks of something? Do they take a lot of showers? Have they solved the pruning problem in the 23rd century?

23. Harry Ballz - October 8, 2007

The large tanks were for creatures like Ruk, so that when the staff were told, “take him to the holding tank”, they had something that could accomodate someone of his size…..nyuk, nyuk, nyuk……

24. billy don't be a hiro - October 8, 2007

the tanks are for storing the siphoned-off crazy.

25. Kyle Nin - October 8, 2007

#20:

Yeah, I just checked the picture on StarTrek.com. They are exactly the same, except for the reasons I already stated. The landscape is an exact duplicate, as is the sky. It would have been nice if they changed the shapes of the rocks and the mountains in the background at least. But it seems that they haven’t.

26. Andy Patterson - October 8, 2007

“siphoned-off crazy”. That’s funny.

27. toddk - October 8, 2007

yeah, I dont know why CBS-D dosent get more imaginative about the old matte paintings. Redundancy isnt a good way to get fans to buy something. The more fans grumble about already having something. The less likely they will spend hard earned extra bucks. do the math ronald!

28. Buckaroohawk - October 8, 2007

Okay, so the preview shows the exterior of the penal colony to be the same (minus the big machinery behind the domes) matte shot used in “Where No Man Has Gone Before,” just as it was in the original, unremastered episode.

Now, it is possible that the preview is “fibbing” a little and just not showing us the new matte that CBS-D may have created for the show, but that seems kind of silly to me. Of course, they could now be using the previews to mess with our minds. “What did we change and what did we leave alone? You’ll never know from the previews. You have to watch the actual episode! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!”

I’ll go on record saying this: If CBS-D did not create a new matte painting, if they simply used the same one from WNMHGB minus the machinery (just as was done when the show was originally produced), then I’m done with the whole “remastered” project. I’m not staying up late on Sunday nights to see them use the same budget-saving cheats that were used during the show’s original run. If they aren’t going to continue making changes like that (changes that were truly remarkable in episodes like “Amok Time,” “Wink of an Eye,” and “The Menagerie”), then there’s no reason for me to waste my nights watching, nor to spend my hard-erarned sheckles on the DVD sets.

I’ve gone from being an ardent supporter of this endeavor to a disappointed fan. I’ll wait for this episode to air, then I’ll make my final decision.

29. The Vulcanista - October 8, 2007

Fellow Atlantans!

WSB may have redeemed themselves.

According to Comcast TV Planner, WSB is airing this episode on SATURDAY (NOT SUNDAY), October the 13th, from 4:00 – 5:00 a.m. This schedule change wasn’t updated as of yesterday at StarTrek.com.

Dare we hope? Yes! Set your DVRs, VCRs, TiVos! (but to be on the safe side, set them for 1.5 hours instead of an hour, just in case.)

Peace. Live long and prosper.
The Vulcanista }:-|

30. Lendorien - October 8, 2007

After reading all the discussion, I have to say that the blame falls squarly ont he corporate suits. They’ve been forced to cut corners to get more done in less time. Thins liek that which could make a big impact on an episode fall by the wayside in the rush to get more done. It’s a real shame because it cheapens what the whole project was all about.

31. Oceanhopper - October 8, 2007

#15 I dig your meaning ;-)

“I love my work!”

32. Tom - October 8, 2007

maybe they’ll “animate” the matte painting a bit like they did in WNMHGB.

BTW, did you guys know that the previews get released on Itunes, too (along with other po/videocasts)

33. Mr. Quatloos - October 8, 2007

It’ll be a huge disappointment if they didn’t redo that matte painting. What’s the point of remastering these episodes if they are going to leave stuff like that as-is?

34. Granger - October 8, 2007

I too hope they update the matte with something completely different that looks more like a penal colony and less like a lithium – not dilithium, mind you, since it was the second pilot – cracking station.

Then again, maybe it really IS a lithium cracking station, and they needed that lithium to treat the schizophrenics until the mind dagger came along…

35. non-fanatic - October 8, 2007

Why is everyone saying that they hope they change the matt painting when the preview clearly shows that they haven’t?

I’m pretty much finished with the remastered episodes myself now. What happened to the video screenshots of the episode with the bad morph effect? People were saying that it would probably be different than the preview, I said it wouldn’t but I can’t find the screenshots of it to check.

36. Granger - October 8, 2007

#35: The previews don’t always match the episode as aired. The actual remastered Man Trap episode, for example, did not have the oddball morphing effects that were seen in the teaser.

37. Kevin - October 8, 2007

I missed the episode, but from what I’ve heard, there wasn’t even any morph shots in the episode. They may have just been added for the preview, or perhaps all the b****ing here made them decide to pull it. Who knows. Either way, it would have looked better than the 60′s effect.

38. I AM THX-1138 - October 8, 2007

There are four lights! I mean three! No, four.

39. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - October 8, 2007

That still from the episode makes me want to say, “open the pod bay doors, HAL.”

But seriously, the clip demonstrated a lot of the cheesy overacting that Shatner made famous… and people are rooting for this guy to come back?

40. girl6 - October 8, 2007

#21

Check out:

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0071562/fullcredits#cast

Mariana (Marianna) Hill–Deanna Dunn Corleone, Fredo’s Wife in Godfather II.

Julie Gregg was Santino’s wife Sandra Corleone in The Godfather.

Marianna Hill is that amazing of an actress. I couldn’t believe it either. :)

41. OR Coast Trekkie - October 8, 2007

#15 Great reference for a great South Park

Imagine… having your mind, emptied by that… thing, wihtout even a tormentor for company…

42. Engon - October 8, 2007

Of course, the easiest thing for them to change/improve would be the “mind- dagger” itself, since it is nothing but an insert. But, perhaps the rotating light is considered more canonical than Norman 1′s inner workings.

43. Greg Stamper - October 9, 2007

Marianna Hill as Dr. Helen Noel

Her appearance in “The Godfather” is high profile but she had much more to say and do in Clint Eastwood’s “High Plains Drifter”.

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0068699/

44. Harry Ballz - October 9, 2007

I’m suffering from double vision since banging my head so I, therefore, see eight lights!

45. CmdrR. - October 9, 2007

According to Comcast TV Planner, WSB is airing this episode on SATURDAY (NOT SUNDAY), October the 13th, from 4:00 – 5:00 a.m.

Uh, I guess that’s better. YAWN. They’d better not cut half the episode to make up for football overages.

46. Diabolik - October 9, 2007

The people putting together these trailers are doing great work. ST never looked so exciting!

47. Ethan Shuster - October 10, 2007

I hear ya, #39, but current Shatner is a better actor than 60s-Shatner.

48. FredCFO - October 10, 2007

Yeah, why didn’t they redo the Lithium Cracking Station? It’s a penal colony, not an industrial plant….

Sorry, these are the things the fans talk about— like the reuse of the Mojave City in “Conscience of the King”.

I hope they redo the castle in “Requiem for Methusula” instead of reusing the one from “The Cage”.

That’s what this remastering is supposed to be all about, making up for the budget shortfalls from the ’60s (and putting more $$$ into the CBS Paramount coffers — like releasing “The Menagerie” in theatres next month — cha ching !!!)

49. OR Coast Trekkie - October 11, 2007

#48 FredCFO

That’s the irpnic thing about this Remastering project: the budget shortfalls…

50. Joe Burns - October 11, 2007

Stop the presses! Here is the NEW matte:

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/mediaview?id=2309885&episodeid=68682&count=-1

LOL they DID fix it!

51. Holo J - October 11, 2007

50 Joe Burns

you beat me to it…

Glad they did something with it in the end. I like it.

“The rings seen in the sky match the reimagined planet shots in orbit, and according to Michael Okuda, are “a bit of a nod to noted astronomical artist Chesley Bonestell.”

So it looks like we are getting another ringed planet for the orbit shots
as well. Maybe someone at CBS is listening to us after all? ;O)

52. Anthony Pascale - October 11, 2007

added matte painting preview and moved article back up to top of home page

53. JimJ - October 11, 2007

It makes me laugh how they are toying with some people (making a wavy/weird transformation of the salt vampire & now the lithium cracking station re-use) just to raise their blood pressure on here. Some of you get so worked up, I think it’s now becoming a game!

Love the new matte painting–the show rocks anyway because there are some works of art that need not be changed—-HELEN!!! Don’t go!!!
Hee, hee!

54. T Negative - October 11, 2007

MUCH, MUCH BETTER. The rings in the sky are an excellent touch. Love it!!

55. Sean4000 - October 11, 2007

Hey, not bad. Guess there actually IS talent in the rungs of CBS-D. Good job guys.

thanks for the link Anthony.

56. toddk - October 11, 2007

Muhahhahhaha…now cbs-d can go and fix all the other mistakes that they made along the way….The more they fix..the more likely we will buy the season 1 set….Oh and did i mention …Muhahahhahhaha…..:)

57. OneBuckFilms - October 11, 2007

Nice matte painting.

Not much else effects-wise for this one.

Roll on “Elaan of Troyius” and “Yesterday’s Enterprise”.

58. toonloon - October 11, 2007

Looks great. Thank goodness they’ve done something to this episode. The new stuff has been a little sparse of late and I just bought a Toshiba HD-DVD player here in the UK so I can get the set in November.

59. 8of5 - October 11, 2007

Wow, that matte painting is fantastic!

60. Lendorien - October 11, 2007

Well good for them! I’m glad to see they fixed the matte to something more reasonable. It looks fantastic!

61. Etha Williams - October 11, 2007

Love the new matte painting, except for the white things arcing through the sky — does anyone know what those are supposed to be?

62. Sean4000 - October 11, 2007

Planetary Rings seen from the ground level.

63. DavidJ - October 11, 2007

I like the rings. Definitely look like they’re out of a painting from the 60s.

64. Trek Or Treat - October 11, 2007

kewl

They must really be fighting to stay ahead of the game if the new matte wasn’t even done in time for the preview.

Go CBS-D. You’re doing a great job!

65. Stoiber - October 11, 2007

Well done CBS

66. Matt Wright - October 11, 2007

Really nice, after all it is subterranean, so it would make sense to only see a portal, elevator type thing.

67. Joe Burns - October 11, 2007

Nice hurdles for would-be escape artists: if they make it out of the elevator, there’s the force fence, after that a big drop off. Plus this emphasizes the elevator for the scene with the lurching lift. I’m digging the classic feel of the rocks and the rings. They produce.. vibrations.

68. steve623 - October 11, 2007

Woooooooow …. that is *really* different.

69. Kelso - October 11, 2007

#11- ‘Vulcanista’:

WSB-Atlanta has moved Star Trek to early SAT morning, where presumably it will not be pre-empted.

After they only aired a whoping 3 MINUTES of ‘The Man Trap’, I lost it and sent them 20 emails requesting a new time-slot for the show. This may have had nothing to do with the decision… but it made me feel better (though, a bit geekier).

70. NCC-73515 - October 11, 2007

#1: why? the device is obviously turned on, since the light that would indicate “off” is… well, off XD

71. Kelso - October 11, 2007

^ Whoops, I just noticed that ‘Vulcanista’ is already aware of the change. Ah well.

72. Plum - October 11, 2007

Neat “matte painting”!

Mmmmm… Helen Noel. :D

73. Buckaroohawk - October 11, 2007

Well, now, THAT’S more like it!

Why do I get the feeling that CBS-D released this image because of all the hoopla surrounding the preview for this episode? Perhaps they should co-ordinate a bit better with whoever puts together the previews each week.

And yeah, I’m one of those who got all worked up about this, and with good reason. I’ve supported the Remastered effort since it was first announced and stuck with it through those bumpy first episodes. I argued with naysayers and critics and watched as CBS-D started hitting their stride, producing some really great work.

Then, to lead fans to believe that they had not updated the matte shot from this episode (and make no mistake, that’s exactly what the aired preview did), well, it was like a slap in the face to those of us who supported this from the beginning. I don’t know if anyone from CBS-D still hangs out here, but if they do, please try to get more accurate images into those previews. Not just for Trek fans, but for the new viewers you’re trying to bring to the show with this effort.

Besides that, I don’t know if my blood pressure can take the strain of misleading previews anymore. My health may well depend on the accuarcy of those things ;-)

74. Etha Williams - October 11, 2007

#62 — Right, thanks. I should rewatch the episode…totally forgot about those.

75. Stanky McFibberich - October 11, 2007

As I earlier stated in #6: How many times do people need to see that what is in the previews is not necessarily in the episodes? Maybe it will be….but…maybe it….won’t.

Heh, heh, heh. :)

Dagger of the Mind: Great episode. Woodward is fantastic.

76. Dr. Image - October 11, 2007

The TOS-R matte paintings have an old-school, Al Whitlock look to them, which not only works with the period, but also looks very cool.
Good job CBS-D!

Now that nacelle ball size… another matter…

77. Cezion - October 11, 2007

Great painting…. but add it to the preview…. please.

78. CmdrR. - October 11, 2007

Cool. Matte-a-licious.
Again, these are the bits that really work, that the producers at the time would have done if they had had the options available now.

79. Neal - October 11, 2007

Helen!!!!

80. Booji Spock - October 11, 2007

I hope these the guys at CBS-D get to work on the new movie in some form another ,because they seem to have a great feel for the show and how it works. I would love to see a whole movie or TV show of Trek lore with there creative hands at the wheel. This shot looks really like something that would have been created back in the 60′s for the show. Where did they get the source material(besided the standing live action set) for referance?
It’s great work again.

81. JCool - October 11, 2007

Simon Pegg was born in 1970

37 Hmmm not bad

82. JCool - October 11, 2007

~News flash~

Simon Pegg is cast as Scotty

83. The Lensman - October 12, 2007

New matte painting ROCKS!!!!
Helen Noel is the hottest chick to ever appear on Star Trek!!
Simon Pegg as Scotty…yay!

84. Scott Gammans - October 12, 2007

Far out! I *love* the new matte painting, and am really psyched that the CBS-D artists recognized the need to replace that reused matte from “WNMHGB”.

85. Holo J - October 12, 2007

With “The Gamesters of Triskelion ” up next do you think they will even attempt to replace the reuse from “Devil in the Dark”?

I am guesing no…but I would love to see them tackle this one…
http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=67&pos=232

Too much work for them,do you think?

86. bmar - October 12, 2007

Re: #73

You’ve got to chill a little. The folks at CBS digital probably work on a different schedule then the promo writer/producers. It’s possible that the reworked matte wasn’t ready when the promo was produced. Promos are sometimes produced with little production material. Having once been a writer/producer in on-air promotions, I know what it’s like to not have finished materials to work with.

You go to air with the promo you’ve got, not the promo you want. ;)

87. Cervantes - October 12, 2007

Ahhh…a nice matte from the CBS Digital guys to take my mind off the recent casting horror of ‘Scotty’…

Thanks, I like it.

88. planettom - October 12, 2007

I guess in the original it was Lithium CRACKPOT station!

89. OneBuckFilms - October 12, 2007

#86 – Here here.

IMHO, I don’t care what they do in the promo for the most part.

If it convinces someone to see the episode, then it’s done it’s job.

It’s the EPISODES that I care about, not the advertising.

90. MichaelJohn - October 12, 2007

#39 Very funny!

I’ve come to enjoy a bit of “Shatner Cheese” with my TOS! His sometimes over the top and hammy acting style is fun to watch, for the most part, and it’s part of the charm and fun of the original series.

But the TOS episode that wins the “Shatner Ham and Cheese Acting Award” has to go to….. opening the envelope….”The Omega Glory” Congratulations!

That episode (especially the final scenes) is the absolute apex of Shatner hamminess and overacting! By cleverly combining overly dramatic music with a generous helping of “Shatner Ham” you get a scene that is so over the top bad, that it’s almost good and unintentionaly funny too.

Mike :o)

91. Mr. Quatloos - October 12, 2007

Nice digital matte painting! I am glad to see another ringed planet too!

92. Granger - October 12, 2007

Woo hoo! The elevator scene finally makes sense.

93. Mr Spook - October 12, 2007

#15 beat me to it…I just can’t watch this episode the same way after South Park.

94. planettom - October 13, 2007

For some reason this episode reminds me of DOCTOR NO.

You’ve got the false-jovial host, showing them around his island. He eventually locks them in a prison cell. Then they escape into the enormous air vents, just like Bond and Honey Ryder.

Also kind of reminds me of a scene in INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM, when Dr. Noel thinks that Kirk is pawing at her when he’s really checking out the ducts…

95. Hawkeye - October 13, 2007

You will love this remastering project…

This will be your favorite episode…

96. dave - October 14, 2007

Well, here in the bay area they moved it to like 2am mon.morn!
Was recently 9pm on Sat but I guess there just weren’t any ratings…

:)

97. Commodore Mendes - October 14, 2007

I loved this episode. It was better than Cats. I’d see it again and again…

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