New Star Trek Super Bowl Commercial Online January 31, 2009
by TrekMovie.com Staff , Filed under: Marketing/Promotion, Star Trek (2009 film) , trackback
The 30-second commercial for the new Star Trek movie, airing tomorrow night with the Super Bowl, is now available online. The first ever Star Trek Super Bowl ad contains a mix of not seen before footage with some footage from the theatrical trailer. Check it out below.
UPDATE: On official site
The trailer is now available at the official site for the Star Trek movie.
CLICK TO SEE AT OFFICIAL SITE
(note you may need to hit ‘reload’ on the official site homepage if it is loading the theatrical trailer)
UPDATE 2: TrekMovie Shot By Shot Analysis
Quick Analysis
[mild spoilers]
This spot is made to appeal to a general audience (the Super Bowl brings in around 100 million viewers). Because it is a Super Bowl spot, it is also made to work even without sound (as many people turn off the volume during breaks or watch the game at parties or bars). Also the commercial sneaks the sci-fi Trek stuff in, waiting until one third of the way in before you get your first shot that could not take place in modern day (the Enterprise under construction). With all that context, the message is clear: there is a big, action-packed, totally new kind of Star Trek movie coming this Summer.
Even though the commercial focuses on action, it still shows how this film is a journey, with this spot highlighting Kirk. There are a lot of shots of the first scene with Chris Pine as Kirk (in a bar), before he goes to the Academy (and before he is the Kirk we know). We also see the first meeting of Kirk and McCoy. All of this emphasizes the ‘origin story’ angle of the film, but we also see Kirk in the chair, showing that the film will take us to his destiny, in command of the USS Enteprise.
Much of the new footage in the commercial was shown at the 20 minute press previews last Fall, but not all. The most prominent new thing would be the shots of San Francisco and Starfleet Academy.
‘New’ Screencaps
TrekMovie will have a full ’shot by shot’ analysis after a higher quality version is available online, like we did for the theatrical trailer. Look for that soon. Until then here are just a few caps of some of the ‘new’ footage.
Super Bowl Trek
See the commercial tomorrow night at the game during Super Bowl XLIII, a match up of the AFC champions, the Pittsburgh Steelers against the NFC champions, the Arizona Cardinals. The game kicks off Sunday February 1st at 6PM (EST) on NBC. More info at nbc.com and nfl.com.
Thanks to the dozen or so readers who sent in this tip tonight so far.
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Awesome.
I was one of those dozens! Huzzah!
Can’t wait until May!
Wow nice…
“Why are you talkin’ to me man” ahahahahahah!
Nice shot of the Enterprise in action.
The only thing I did not like about the TV spot was Kirk going, “Woo hoo!” during the skydiving sequence. Aside from that, everything looked good. I think Karl Urban is going to steal the show as McCoy.
NICE!!!!
Whew, thanks. Now I don’t have to watch the Super Bowl.
Oh my god, that scene with the Enterprise firing brought a tear to my eyes… it was so beautiful.
Sweet!
Ugh. Woohoo? Shouting?
UGH.
Sweet, new footage!
so good. Just showed it to 5 of my friends that are avid non Trekkies. Just won some converts.
Very nice…4 months…
Hoooooooly SH!T!!! That looked awesome!!! I agree with #4, DGill – I think Carl Urban is going to steal the movie. He not only sounds like him, but kind of actually LOOKS like him – the eyes. I wonder if we’re going to get any “I’m a doctor not a __________” lines.
I CAN’T WAIT!!!! IM GONNA WATCH IT AGAIN!!!!!
Wow. Earth gets attacked again by the Xindi!
that is pretty kick ass! can’t wait for May!
“Why are you talkin’ to me man?” Just makes me mad hearing it. Sounds like a lot of kids I teach. I don’t think Jim Kirk would have said it like that. Like a cross between Bill and Ted and Cheech and Chong. Whatever.
Seems like it might stand on its own. Qapla’
This is BIG!!! For all us trek fans, we know we are going to see this, but to make it HUGE (and to give us another opportunity for another film) this superbowl clip will help really help broaden the audience and give millions of people the chance to see the “new” enhanced trek in a way they’ve never imagined. Way to go!!!
17
How do you know? Actually, he has said it like that. We have proof. Just now. I mean come one. You’ve never seen a rebellious person in their early 20’s?
So, here come the nitpickers. Ins’t Kirk a KID going to the Academy?
Wow, that scene from the academy has been extremely altered by the FX team. Remember the pic from over a year ago?
Way to go ILM, awesome matte and compositing there!
#15
That would be amusing if the new and improved Kobayashi Maru test was basically the Xindi attacking earth (thus directly linking ‘Enterprise’ mythology to the movie). But how on earth could a single person stop something like that from happening? That’s why it’s a no-win scenario. :D
# 15 AHAHAHA yeah i got that flash back as well. HELL THEY ARE ALL IN RED SO THATS EVEN WORSE!
#17 Yeah i know what you mean. Sound like Kirk was a little punk teenager. I watch the scene where Kirk and McCoy are talking and i want to say “Your drunk Jim”.
Anyway nice preview.
The Big E looks a million times more killer in those few frames then any picture released so far, and about a million times more badazz then the Big E has been in many, many years.
I also like the fact that we will be able to see this film in an IMAX theater (as per the end credits there in the preview).
When will a villian in a trek movie understand that it does not matter what century you come from and how big your ship is, you do not stand a chance when you go against Kirk, Spock and the Enterprise.
I like this film! It’s exciting!
Awesome.
Awesome. How can you not be excited? This is the only way we’ll see new Star Trek, and that being said, I think we should welcome it. It’s TODAY’S take on trek. Done right it could be brilliant.
It will be cool to see San Fran in the 23rd Century! We never really get to see a good shot of it.
I just crapped me pants, holy god that was good!
ans at 23 I think we did in this one, 2 in fact
Aside from “Woooo-hoooo!!!!!”, that was an awesome preview! I can’t wait for the rest of the country to see it tomorrow.
what the hell is wrong with saying “woohoo”? I went skydiving last summer… I’m 41.. and I screamed “wooohooo” all the way down… you guys need to get over yourselves.
The movie looks incredible. A friend of mine working in the industry saw it last week in Toronto at a special screening. He is a Trek purist and he told me that it’s going to be huge. Even the non-trekkers that saw it with him were blown away.
Speculate all you want!!! Those of you who are so grounded in the trek lore that is all about previous episodes and what has been said in movies have a lot to learn about what Gene’s vision for the future really is… It’s about the evolution of the human race to become better than it is NOW… and that requires change to the extent that we think of things in a different way; accept new things; be proactive about our future; stop looking at the past as the grounds for what must be. Trek is an evolution – based in reality, but meant as a vision of the future that changes with each generation. For anyone who has nit-pics with this or that in the clips we’ve seen… just remember, it’s the vision that counts!!! Not the tit-for-tat nonsense that some of you display in your comments about a “movei”, but for an ultimate outcome that gives people hope for a civilization that is better than we have now and that leads us into the future !!!
Actually, I do think it’s “woo HOO hoo”. Probably the Vulcan phrase “wu huuhu”…. :)
A much better ad. I’m glad Saldana’s bra doesn’t have to be the focus this time.
And the “why are you talking to me, man” makes sense in that Kirk didn’t start the fight, Pike’s crewman did….
Can’t wait !!!
Alright, I’ll bye the Woo-hoo. I guess I wouldn’t expect any less from someone skydiving from space. Anyway, there are definitely some new spoilers in there. The most noticeable being the Romulans attacking Earth. That’s a new one.
Sorry, that’s “movie”
Beautiful! Thanks for the bone!
May can’t get here quick enough!
Ughhh. I am sick of this. I am sick and tired of these trailers. All they do is make me want to see the movie more and more! Does Paramount know they’re toying with us? I mean seriously. Why can’t they just stop giving these little teasers to us – it’s causing too much anxiety.
but seriously: this looks awesome and the I am so glad that “the wait is (almost) over” — on May 8th I will be sitting in the local IMAX theatre watching the revival of Star Trek. It’s been a very long 4 years since I’ve had any new Star Trek material to watch.
Wow! Look at the Enterprise looking all fine and stuff lol!!
First of all, how do we even know it’s Kirk saying “Woohoo?” And even if it is Kirk, who cares? I personally thought the “Why are you talkin’ to me man?” was brilliant. Such a different face of Kirk than we’re used to, and it rings true. Something deep inside you says: “That’s Jim Kirk at 20(ish)!”
Remember, we only saw Kirk as a mature captain who had grown into his position and matured beautifully with experience (as one would expect from a normal human being. Did we expect that the character we saw in TOS was static? That he had come out of the womb saving the world and not making a mistake? sheesh?
And “whatever” is the way my nieces in their tweens end sentences when they pout when not getting their way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
17. Andy Patterson – January 31, 2009
“Why are you talkin’ to me man?” Just makes me mad hearing it. Sounds like a lot of kids I teach. I don’t think Jim Kirk would have said it like that. Like a cross between Bill and Ted and Cheech and Chong. Whatever.
was Kirk yelling “Spock do it” or “Spock don’t”?
Trek is back!!!! Who knows, it may be bad, it may be good, or it may be killer, but either way, at least it is getting a treatment that, after Nemesis and Enterprise, nobody would have ever predicted.
Halo jump looked awesome. Kirk halo jumped in a cut scene from ST Generations, so we know people still halo jump in the future.
ILM must really love that angle of the 1701. In both the trailer and this TV spot it is in that same angle. Not that I am complaining, since the Big E is lookin good anyway they put it.
two quick notes:
1. the scene in the bar is the first scene with pine as kirk, before academy, that is where he STARTS his arc.
2. the ‘woo hoo’ in the sky diving is not coming from Kirk
Ah, so it’s not “Star Trek: 90210″, but it is “Star Trek: The Hip Generation”.
OW! Am I getting too old?! The whole ad went so quickly I didn’t get anything from it but a headache.
25
Totally agreed about the Big E. Everyone’s been nitpicking the design for months, but in the actual footage there’s no denying that this IS the Enterprise.
In fact, with the smooth hull and round nacelles, I’d dare say this comes closer to capturing the FEEL of the original ship even better than the refit did.
Oh yeah, and the rest of the trailer was pretty kickass too. : D
I wonder when the new preview will be up at the StarTrekTheMovie website in high quality. Hopefully the good folks here at TrekMovie can find out.
I wasn’t impressed with the “Why are you talkin’ to me man?” or the “Woo-hoo!” bits but the rest looked pretty good. The battle shots looked pretty impressive and the Enterprise does look very good from that angle.
I am LOVING that trailer! It extends upon some of the screenshots we’ve already seen or voiceovers we had only HEARD until now. Should be perfect for Super Bowl Sunday.
50
Yup, great shot of the Enterprise. I have loved the new one from the start. It looks like it could evolve into the refit, and the refit/1701-A has always been my favorite design in all of Star Trek.
The secondary hull looks a bit bigger in this shot. It is really starting to look more and more badazz as May comes closer.
A quick glance at the shot and you can just visualize the refit in that shot, they are so close in relation.
This is awesome. I’m accepting that this will be the 21st Century take on the original Star Trek characters and the Enterprise, which looked awesome in action. So what if it doesn’t look like the original from TOS, this movie is capturing the essence of the Enterprise and the characters.
Think of this movie as Star Trek Begins.
I liked this better than the trailer but I still can’t get past how much this feels like a generic Rob Cohen Sci-Fi action movie. Starfleet Academy looks nice and Karl Urban is awesome(him and Quinto are the only 2 I’m certain will do well in their characters, but Pine is growing on me very slowly).
49. Izbot –
“OW! Am I getting too old?! The whole ad went so quickly I didn’t get anything from it but a headache.”
Oh, wait, it’s probably because I’m a little drunk. I’ll watch it again tomorrow. Goodnight everyone.
32, that is good news.
47, thanks for the info.
That phaser blast, or orbital cannon shot into the San Francisco Bay as the cadets come rushing out looks pretty awesome.
Uhhhh terrible “why are you talking to me, man?” line!
I’m getting sick of these action dense trailers. Can we have a second or two with the characters together? The best part of this trailer was the Kirk/McCoy scene. Makes me worry they made an action movie, not a Star Trek movie.
I don’t think he’s yelling “Spock, do it,” but rather, “Do it! Do it!”
Yeah. Definitely NOT Star Wars. Star Wars was never cool enough for this! Definitely Trek. Different, but still very much Trek and it is more awesome than ever!!!!!
51
I think people are just going to have to get used to hearing a more contemporary and less formal speaking style in this new Trek movie.
From the Countdown comic and snippets of movie dialogue we’ve heard so far, that clearly seems to be the case.
Personally I don’t mind it that much. All that stiff, formal talk was getting a bit tired and predictable near the end, IMO. It’s about time someone came along and LIVENED things up a bit, and made these characters talk and act like real people.
59. Jordan
Trailers usually focus on action as a rule. It does a better job of getting you hyped to see something. Don’t sweat it. I’m sure there will be plenty of character moments.
59, you are not alone in that concern. I know people who are concerned that in the attempt to make Star Trek popular in the “mainstream” they made an action film at the expense of what Star Trek is really about and slapped a Star Trek label on it. I myself have mixed feelings about this film (the action looks great, the ship looks great, etc.) but at the same time I share your concern about it being an action flick instead of Star Trek. Of course it could be an action film that is also Star Trek by embracing the optimisim, morality, and the general message of Star Trek. We’ll see in May.
Looks great – I’ll be interested to see Pine’s interpretation of Kirk. I liked that article where JJ hearkened to the different actors who have played Bond, and how their different interpretations have become, over the years, liked by different people for different reasons. I’m a hardcore TOS fan but I would be open to these roles of Kirk, Spock, etc. being approached like that.
59: “Makes me worry they made an action movie, not a Star Trek movie.”
Please my the day never come when there is a “Star Trek movie” genre! Trek, for me, transcends “action” “mystery” “sci-fi” etc. its timelessness accommodates them all. Let’s not despair because Paramount marketers chose to include action scenes in the trailer to sell the movie. Let it speak for itself on May 8.
Why does Earth look so dirty? The city looks very Star Wars to me. I think they would have eliminated pollution in the 23rd century.
59
Um, what else did you expect from a Super Bowl commercial? This movie needs to hold it’s own next to those flashy trailers for TF and GI Joe that people are going to see tomorrow. Anything less, and it’s going to be dismissed by the casual viewer as “just another boring Trek movie.”
62, your point is well taken.
63, an excellent point. I hope you’re right.
I do not understand why people are complaining about lines/reactions that would be said in those situations in real life.
From my personal experience, a buddy of mine got into a bar fight, and after getting a bloody nose he pretty much gave me the same tone as Kirk had.
That “Why are you taking to me man” line sounds like it came from Jeff Spicoli from “Fast Times at Ridgemont High” rather than James T. Kirk.
I know not to read too much into any given sound bite, but I hope this doesn’t turn into Star Trek 90210. By the way I don’t think it will turn into 90210.
So I take it, because Earth is now getting attacked by the Romulans, that means that Vulcan didn’t make it?
Vulcan def. goes bye bye? That’s sad :(
64
As long as it’s an intense, exciting, and WELL MADE action movie (unlike, say, the turd that was Nemesis), I honestly wouldn’t have a problem with that.
Not every episode of TOS was talky and philosophical, and not every Trek movie needs to be. Personally I’d love to see what a faster and more high-energy Trek movie would look like.
In any case, anyone who thinks Abrams is just going to turn out a ridiculous, braindead Michael Bay action-fest clearly doesn’t know the guy’s style. He’s much better than that.
San Francisco definitely looks like a Ryan Church interpretation of the city’s future. That’s not necessarily a bad thing. I’m generally a fan of his work, and it looks really, really cool. For once in a Star Trek movie there is more to be pleased with visually than just the Enterprise, which, by the way, looks absolutely splendid.
Oh man, everyone sees the Superbowl, and after that ad everyone will want to see this movie, Holy crap I can’t remember a time I actually thought that of a Trek movie.
72 – You proceed from a false assumption. We don’t know when in the movie either event happens. And Vulcan’s fate has not been established. Only the potential fate.
76 – You make a very good point. Better wait until my 8th ;)
I think that this will help draw a lot of people to the movie and I think it’ll be big, but at the same time, that just doesnt seem like James T. Kirk, even when he was younger. The TOS Kirk always seemed like he would of been more of the quiet confident type when he was younger, not snobby. As far as the new E goes, I think its a ship that looks good from the front because you dont see how weird the nacelles or engineering hull looks from that angle. If anything this preview makes me think even more that this is gonna be a big sifi movie filled with lots of action and will be big, but not star trek for the most part.
LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!
JJ Abrams and his team are the future if the Trek series!!
Thank God for JJ getting involved!
4 fraking months of waiting!?! Ugh!
Despite the fact I want to watch this for the next 8 hours, I think I’ll be goin’ to bed now. Good Night everyone. Check you here on the boards after the commercial airs.
The preview was more exciting than the last two TNG movies.
I’m gonna go as far to say that this preview is already better than the 2 previous Trek movies combined!
better than 1st Contact, possibly but I will wait for the movie to make that judgment.
Is that the Xindi atacing again? it looks awesome!
It was… fun.
I hope there’s not a descendant of Trip living in San Fran.
the ‘big ol’ laser” snippet made me think of the Replicator Sattelite weapon from Stargate: Atlantis, then I remembered the Xindi planet buster.
Nice to some new footage. Nicer still not to have to watch the Superbowl now just to see the ad. :D
I’m afraid I don’t understand the negative response to Kirk’s “attitude”. The guy cheated on the most important test of a command cadet’s Academy training, and decades later continues to defend the action, with a wry and vaguely proud manner. He stole a frakking starship from Spacedock, in Earth orbit, and then destroyed said ship. Every week he was making out with some hot alien babe, or a sexy new crewman that just transferred aboard, or meeting an old flame with whom he’d had a presumably fiery affair with years earlier. The guy was always getting into fist fights, bluffing his way out of danger, and in his later years continued to live life on the edge (orbital skydiving, anyone?). He stood up to God and asked him for his ID! Funny, but I could totally see him as a bright, energetic, and cocky young man, with a wisdom even he may not have been aware of at that time.
Sweet, sweet nector
Hope McCoy finds his razor.
I think that since the growth in popularity in video games that more and more films are emulating the style and substance of these games in story structure, character development, special effects, and the brevity of the whole art piece. I won’t be surprised if Kirk faces a few mini-bosses before confronting the big boss – the Romulan villian. Personally, I think that the films shouldn’t be imitating video games. However, the generations that came after mine are conversant in the language and imagery of that art form. This includes the directors who taking the helm such as J.J Abrams and the team of writers who wrote this film. This film isn’t for me – it is for people younger than myself.
Already, before the film aired, I find the story implausible. I am led to believe that Starfleet would allow one of their most advanced and sophiscated ships be commanded by a Academy cadet in a crisis. This would be the equivalent in our world of a Annapolis cadet being given command of an aircraft carrier in the midst of a major international crisis. It wouldn’t happen, period. (And it hasn’t happen in history, either, for that matter. The greatest figures of naval history, like Lord Nelson or Admiral NImitz, began their careers in humble standing and rose to the top by their dedication, ambition, and vision.)
However, I see many young people who believe this is possible that if the right opportunity presents itself that they too can fill in a position that a more experienced person might fill. For this reason, I believe this film reflects our time..
Spyglass Entertainment? I missed that before. That new?
btw, I think this commercial is definately geared/targeted to non-Trek fans, or rather the entire SuperBowl audience. the studio crammed alot of action/fights/explosions cuz that’s what gets the SuperBowl viewers attention.
#91,Colin
sadly I agree with you that this movie may not be for you.
this movie is definately for fans of JJ Abrams and his other works such as Felicity, ALIAS, Lost, and Mission Impossible 3.
I am personally very excited to the full score of the movie which was done by a member of Team JJ, Micheal Giancho? he did the scores fir alias, lost, and mi:3. it will be a much needed fresh take from the previous movies scores.
Star Trek has always had fights, spaceships, and explosions. Yes, it also has ideas,, but remember that Roddenberry proposed Trek as a “Space Western:”, so that average network TV people would look at it. Then he injected the morals and ideas later.
94
Speak for yourself. The only think I’ve ever seen of Abrams was Cloverfield and I’m not going to see this movie because of that.
Young Kirk sorta reminds me of Sawyer from LOST. That’s the kind if thing Sawyer would say actually.
96 – 94’s post reads to me, with statements like “I am personally,” that he IS only speaking for himself.
HOLY SHIT! Why can’t May 8th be tomorrow? ARGH!! That spot was juicy and sweet.
That futuristic cityscape is beautiful in its fogged believability. This is looking so good.
99 – It’ll be here before you know it.
98
I’m simply a fan of Michael’s work and am curious what he will do for a Star Trek movie.
Regarding Earth being attacked:
I think it would make sense for Nero to do this, based on what we know about the film so far. Imagine that even if he got rid of Kirk for good, who’s to say someone wouldn’t take his place? And if I had a ship as powerful as the Narada clearly is, I wouldn’t stop with the Kelvin, I’d reduce Starfleet Command to a smoking crater if I had that kind of firepower at my disposal…
102 – I think you may have misread me. I was pointing out to 96 that you, at 94, were speaking for yourself only with your post — expressing your opinion, as we are all entitled to do here. But some do it more civilly than others. I felt 96 was being a little snappy and snitty with you with his “speak for yourself” comment. That’s what I meant by my post at 98.
I’m so glad they took the “alternate timeline” route with this movie. It gave them the ability to lighten up and have some liberties with the scope of this film.
If Star Trek doesn’t get and Oscar nod for the 09 best Achievement in VFX, I will be surprised.
having already seen the SuperBowl trailers for GI-Joe and Transformers 2: ROTF, 2009’s summer looks pretty frakking good!
The last time I got excited about a TV spot was 1982 when they did a double bill of SW/Empire.
The above was awful! The only good bit was McCoy. It was the same old tired fast cutting terrible marketing bullshit.
SACK THEM!!!! Get somebody in who knows what makes people emote! I have emotions….I want to use them!!!!
ILM, which is creating these effects, including that nice shot of San Francisco, owns part of the property on which Starfleet Academy is built–The Presidio. It’s an incredible convergence.
Can anyone in San Francisco confirm that the angle in the trailer is from The Presidio?
Great trailer. Can’t wait for the details. I hope they don’t turn Star Trek into BSG by leaving both Earth and Vulcan destroyed. Kirk wouldn’t accept that.
EFFING YES!
These trailers pump you up for this movie!
#81 – better than the last two put together? I disagree… I just do.
#82 put it better – it’s more exciting.
And hearing Karl Urban say “Leonard McCoy” – he sounds just right. Having not really heard much about him before, he looks pretty good.
Saying that, Simon Pegg has done a million interviews, and we saw what, half a second of him in the trailer?
Maybe my comments on #81 and #82 should be the other way round… :)
FYI: LeVar Burton was at the Directors Guild Awards tonight.
I’m not sure why he was there with the A-listers or why they even invited him but it was still great seeing him out in public!
I think he was accompanied by his wife and they both looked awesome.
If you guys are going to bawl about stupid little things, you should at least get it right. He says “Woo hoo hoo” and it isn’t Kirk saying it.
Some people just go looking for reasons to baby-up.
This looks amazing – but I’m just worried that the phasers look a bit like pulse phasers a la Sisko’s Defiant – am I seeing things? Still, I suppose this could be one of the “Wars”-esque things JJ’s put in, and it’s not *too* bad…
“This looks amazing – but I’m just worried that the phasers look a bit like pulse phasers a la Sisko’s Defiant – am I seeing things?”
How about the movie phasers used in “The Wrath of Khan?” The original Enterprise was supposed to be using them as well.
Very nice. :D
On the whole, in my opinion, this is not as good as the 2-min. trailer. BUT I am sure happy for the added shots!
Super bowl? What is *that*? ;)
Trailer looks b*tchin’ BTW.
the Kirk in his underwear scene must be geared for the young ladies…and a couple of the men.
I was bit put off by the ‘man’ and the ‘woo-hooo’ too – but then, who says he has to be *exactly* like Shatner’s Kirk? If Pine gets a bit of flexibility with the character and succeeds with it, we can look forward to other fresh interpretations in the future – just like Basil Rathbone isn’t the only Sherlock Holmes and Sean Connery isn’t the only James Bond.
So McCoy and Kirk meet right when Kirk enters the academy. The scene with them in the shuttle is the day after the barfight… which make Bones his oldest friend there.
THANK GOODNESS these weren’t adapted for The Next Generation crew.
Bloodied nosed Picard to… Pike: “Why do you insist on addressing me, sir?”
Data in the Parachutes: “I believe the correct human phrase sir is “Woo” and a “Hoo.”
Picard in the Captain’s Chair at the end: “MAKE IT SO! MAKE IT SO!”
#41 — I hear ya, the one about Kirk’s maturation. Recall Jean-Luc Picard: even he had some growing up to do.
@108…
Tuber, last summer I walked along the waterfront from the city up to the bridge, it is Presidio or close to the area. But I am quite stunned to see Neros drill next to the Golden Gate…
Steelers: 24 Cardinals: 16
#124
you’re right on.
I think Kirk is going to be a pain in the ass punk for a while then once he’ll gradually start to ‘man up’ by the movies end.
at least I hope that’s the way it goes.
That trailer looked fantastic
But that is not the Jim Kirk I know.
But as I say to myself alternate timeline which means it is separate canon from the Star Trek we all love.
It’s gonna be legendary! Spacesuit up! :-D
and where the frak is Winona Ryder?
wasn’t she supposed to be on this?
I hated the fact Kirk yelled “Woo hoo!” as well . This angered me when I watched it, other than that seems cool. I am trying to reserve judgement until May.
A bit of excitement is very much needed, in my opinion. I just watched ST VI again and, boy, Kirk and co. were so wooden and still (it was the age of the actors, I suppose). This movie seems more emotional and this is a good thing. Younger actors will bring something fresh and new.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! BLOODY YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHOO-HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Getting upset over “woo hoo” is just sour grapes. A lot of people shout stuff like that when they are doing something exciting.
I think that the images were too fast, but like someone here said above,
maybe I’m getting too old. But it did look exciting as hell. I must now watch it a few more times.
okay, can someone explain to me why people are getting ~upset~ and ~angered~ at the “Y U talking to me man?” and the “WoooooHooooo!!!!” line?
why are y’all letting it bother you & affect you so much??
I really need to understand this.
I don’t get it!
BTW, the character that is saying those lines is a young dude.
remember that plz.
Why is the Abramsprise fireing Star Wars Laser?
Great!!!
I don’t think Kirk is saying “Woo-hoo”, he’s screaming out “Uhura”, hence the love-making scene with her. (j/k)
#138 see #116
#116 Good point :$
wow, this keeps getting worse. Sorry, it really does.
This looks like a kid movie or more for the Star Wars crowd. This is not Trek.
lame.
Great, Kirk is a Wooh girl……
#132
Star Trek Vi will be like Gone with The Wind compared to this “Star Trek” movie coming out in May.
142
this is a JJ Abrams (creator of Felicity, Alias, Lost, & Fringe & dir. of MI:3) Star Trek movie!
this ain’t no Jon Frakes movie.
there were not enough Uhura shots in this!
Looks AWESOME to me!!! But what was going on on Earth? It was under attack or something?
#147
No, it’s just an evil deathray from the depths of the universe, that has been drawn to the massive red shirt singularity seen in the trailer.
#138 – They aren’t, though if it was it would be the same reason the Enterprise and Reliant were in “The Wrath of Khan.” ;) Simple.
whoa whoa whoa whoa, wait up. THAT’S SAN FRANCISCO? Really? I mean…really? It looks like Coruscant from Star Wars.
http://www.verumserum.com/media/2008/04/coruscant.jpg
They had it perfect TMP.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2339/2333722566_046db54470.jpg?v=0
Why change it?
Way to go JJ, you turned Earth into a Star Wars planet.
I don’t know how this movie is not pissing off loyal Star Trek fans. This doesn’t even resemble Star Trek anymore.
#150 – was the second picture you linked a photo taken today? It doesn’t look like something from two hundred years in the future whatsoever…
151
Agreed.
#150
Everything ILM does looks one way or another like Star Wars. If I lived in San Francisco, I’d be really pissed.
#150 – Or it was ILM….. one or the other, it looks fine, you are nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking is all.
Fantastic!
#150 “….whoa whoa, wait up. THAT’S SAN FRANCISCO? Really? I mean…really? It looks like Coruscant from Star Wars.”
Actually, I thought of that, too – but only for a moment, when I realized that this might be a morning shot of San Francisco (in the TWENTY-THIRD century), with morning sunlight beginning to burn off low-hanging fog from the Bay Area, which is normal for our planet in that region. (??) If so, it would be a nice “all-too-human” (as certain Vulcans might say) touch by ILM’s effects team(s) to think of including it somehow.
Very nice.
Fan-bloody-tastic! I’m so stoked to see this film!
the problem many of us have with kirk’s “why are you talkin’ to me, man” line is that its 20th/21st century slang, and languages change over time, that is why certain expressions don’t fit in a movie like this set in the 23rd century, this will be an excellent movie, no doubt, but I think that it will be a poor Star Trek movie.
#151
No, it’s actually from a movie called Star Trek: The Motion Picture. You may have heard of it. It’s totally different that this new Star Trek movie coming out, because well…it’s not made for kids and it really is a human adventure for the soul. You should check it out sometime.
AWESOME!!!!!!! :D :D
#160. You’re right. Maybe that’s why so many trekkies didn’t like TMP. Stop whining and man up you child.
#150 – You just have to look at the present day Dubai skyline and you can see where the future is going
#151
What I mean is that it is of it is for kids but deals with some philosophical/theological topics that may go over their heads. It’s a good movie though.
The second one is even better. It’s called Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. It’s actually a serious movie and very well done and tackles a lot of adult oriented themes such as life/death, growing old, and sacrifice.
Just don’t expect any wicked cool lines that are aimed at The Transformers crowd such as “WOO HOO” or “Buckle up.”
Or my personal favorite “I like this ship! it’s exciting!” *shivers in disgust*
#162
Just pointing out the facts. The only thing that needs to man up is the intellect content in the new movie.
160. The Wild Man of Borneo – ‘#151 No, it’s actually from a movie called Star Trek: The Motion Picture. You may have heard of it. It’s totally different that this new Star Trek movie coming out, because well…it’s not made for kids and it really is a human adventure for the soul. You should check it out sometime.’
Yes, but for all its plus-points, TMP frequently was balls-dull, its characters humourless and dehumanised. And I was never a fan of the whole Earth-as-museum-clean-paradise thing anyway. Where there are people, there’s mess and noise. That will never change.
Quite honestly the shot of Frisco looks more ‘real’ than the ones from TMP’s paradise version.
Oh and Star Trek is meant for a general audience, including kids, btw. ;) The fact that this movie is so different-looking is a positive, as far as I’m concerned!! What we’ve seen so far has the energy, melodrama and colour of TOS amped up a few million times.
The fact that Star Trek can be interpreted in so many different ways is a positive from my perspective!
Much too fast for me. Thanks for the screencaps, without them, I’d be lost to tell what’s new here.
#164.
No, you just have lines like “KHANNNN…” in it right?
What a laugh, go back to the 1980s where you belong.
#164
Ok, but I BETTER BUCKLE UP!
WOO HOO!
I LIKE THIS SHIP IT’S EXCITING!
C’mon, you can’t help but groan when you hear these lines. And I bet there are plenty more
#168
So…you’re knocking Star Trek I and II? And you’re a fan of Star….?
let me put it this way…if Berman was doing something like this. There would be pitchforks and people would be pissed. I don’t know why, but I have a strong feeling that would’ve happened.
#170
Lemme get this right. You’re knocking STXI and you’re a fan of Star…?
#172
That, my friend, is NOT Star Trek. It’s Star Wars with star trek uniforms.
I’m sorry, it just looks so childish. Like it’s specifically aimed for kids.
#173.
Says you my friend. According to someone else, it is.
Fact is, ST movies have gone down so much in the past decade that Abrams taking the helm of STXI is a blessing.
shit the bed! cant wait for the superbowl or the film!!!
first? hooray
that was a lot of comments in 2 minuets
Aimed at kids? Because of the dialogue? So 40 year old guys are “kids” now are they? I can’t imagine being how old you are as to not be able to show emotion. People in their 60s even show excitement.
Wild Man is looking for the attention, don’t feed in to him ;)
But wow, I may like this more than the trailer, which I thought was pretty good myself!
#175
I can’t believe people are buying into this. It’s probably gonna be a good movie. But it’s just not Trek. Nothing from the trailers and commercials make me say “wow, this IS Star Trek.” Except for the uniforms and Spock. And the Enterprise looks…c’mon!
#180
It IS Star Trek, to ME. To YOU, it ISN’T Star Trek.
Ok, I am done I am done. I don’t want to rain on people’s parade and spoil the movie. If it makes you happy it makes you happy. This just doesn’t do it for me though. Just my humble opinion.
Just sometimes I just gotta speak my mind about this movie. I don’t want to ruin the experience for people though,
It I recall, the Presidio (Starfleet Command) sits quite close to the SanFran end of the GG Bridge. Just off to the right, I think.
This shot is presumably of SF Academy.
#182
And I respect you opinion.
The last thing I want is to have to punch out an overly-vocal “purist” in the theaters on May 9th.
Some people on here are like my GRANDPA saying “They don’t make ‘em like they used ‘ta”
People like that are stuck in the past and are totally unwilling to embrace things made for people who are in the present.
Things have to move on or else they just die off. Go and watch Star Trek: New Voyages and stop moaning.
SweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeT OMG this is goin to be the shit
Frack yes!!!
It ia most definitely not the Star Trek from my long forgotten youth but I am certainly looking forward the its rise from the ashes….
It looks very exciting and fast-paced, which is to be expected from a trailer during the superbowl — it’s meant to sell Trek to a vastly larger and in all likelihood vastly different audience than the people who’ve typically been to see Star Trek at the theaters. With that in mind, I would suggest that the final film will be smarter, less frenetic, and more classically Trek-like than the clips have shown thus far.
That said, I’m very much looking forward to (and keeping an open mind about) the release in May.
:30 = $3M.
OK.
They keep paring a shot of Zoe with the shot of PineKirk ka-bangin’ the green gal. Obviously, the trailer keepers want the audience to think we’ve gone WAAAAY beyond TV’s first interracial kiss.
Believe me now and hear me later:
The writers used “Best Destiny” as a guide to young Kirk’s life. Young “Jimmy Kirk” is a 17 year old jerk, but, he has his reasons. Even the Shat has Kirk as a nasty kid in his latest book.
We see a wild Kirk change from teenager to Starfleet in the span of this movie.
“Why are you talkin’ to me, man?” is destined to be a classic.
I’m going into stasis until May.
169
Left out I WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO LECTURE ME. :-)
Unfrakking believable! I can’t believe I’m even more excited for this now! JJ you are my hero!
I really can’t wait for the movie to come out.
It’s going to be great!!!!
generic.
Action – cut – bumm – cut
Only Jar Jar is missing and we have a new Star Wars movie. (PT not OT style)
I see that they’ve extensively modified the Oviatt Library at California State University, Northridge. Some my remember my photos and postings (see my blog postings early last year) concerning the actual shoot. What’s even more interesting is the gigantic saucer-like apparition visible for a split-second in the scene.
Good to see that shot of Spock on the bridge is no longer reversed backwards.
This preview is very Kirk centered. I guess that’s best for the Superbowl crowd.
Just realized after seeing the HD version that the saucer-like apparition is actually a cloud formation surrounding that red beam.
Regarding why San Francisco is so “dirty,” I’m of the opinion that it’s fog that we’re seeing. Mankind may have defeated global warming and pollution by the 23d Century, but Mother Nature still has her fog. And what’s the City by the Bay without its mystic, mysterious fog, anyway?
Kirk, in this ad, reminds me of Chris O’ Donnell’s Robin when he steals the Batmobile in Batman Forever. -shudders-
And Bruce Greenwood seems almost zombie-like in his monotonous speech to Kirk.. Hopefully, this is just an editing decision.
I still don’t know what to make of this, honestly. The first Countdown comic was interesting…
Ok. I loved the shot of the Big E in action. it Looked Absolutely Fantastic. I am getting more and more Excited about this Movie.The action the drama the Story all Looks Incredable. I like this Ship. Tis Exciting!!.
190: They already did in TOS and beyond. Inter-species kissing happened as well. ;)
The trailer looks decent. Some more little story bits rather than all action. Some people may nitpick that Karl Urban isn’t thin enough to be McCoy, but I think he’s perfect as is.
Chris Pine’s young Kirk reminds me of that “Rebel Without a Cause” archetype. James Kirk as James Dean, so to speak.
From what I’ve seen, I would gather that as a youngster, Jimmy Kirk was torn between an introspective existence and a wilder, extroverted one. Family circumstances conspired to make him a lonely genius, but instead of hiting the books, he hit the bricks, and found himself in a starship they were building … a starship that would make him James Tiberius Kirk.
Star Trek XI is the story of a man’s journey into greatness and the formation of an timeless triumvirate forged as a planet spins toward the edge of disaster.
God, some Trekkies can be so annoying:
Didn’t Kirk essentially scream, “AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!” after falling off of the face of El Capitain in STAR TREK V? But he can’t scream, “Whooohooo!” when he’s a young cadet?
And almost any young male in his teens and 20’s has used the term “man.” This is supposed to a YOUNG version of Kirk, not Spock. If Spock was saying these things, I’d be concerned.
Certainly, this is not your father’s Trek: James Kirk smirking, “Why are you talking to me, man?” “Man”???? Obviously not the Officer and a Gentleman one might expect of a Service academy candidate. Rather too cynical and smart mouthed it seems, to be the James T Kirk who was entrusted with a capital command at age 35. This is, of course, only my opinion. But that opinion is based on the observation of a steady decline and eradication of the very ideal of the American Gentleman since the 1960s, replaced with something rather more base. Proof of the observation is that the film makers tell us such characterization is “necessary” to “reach” a “modern audience” which is as close to an explicit condemnation as one might expect today — the imposition of markedly lessened standards of behaviour in the name of pandering to the vulgaris mobilus.
Sincerely,
C.S. Lewis
I hope the movie is nothing like this commercial.
The Acamy scene has to be from the still we saw over the summer with the fX put in?
Not sure what to make of this new addition to the quick glimpses of the new movie.
Where’s ANY sign of the optimism everyone connected with the film keeps talking about? Or the interplay between characters? From the trailer(s) it really does look like a very pretty action film… and not much else. Doesn’t seem to have any substance.
I pray it has more depth and emotion – the Roddenberry ’spirit’ – than displayed in these MTV fast-edit trailers…….
#205 – C.S. Lewis
Yawn. Somebody needs to get over him/herself.
When your ‘average’ Super Bowl ad is LOUD & FLASHY, to stand out in the crowd, you have to do the same.
This ad is pretty much typical for the Super Bowl, I’m not surprised one bit.
Joe Blow’s brain will melt when he sees this ad today.
Should be a fun ride.
#208 – Mugz
It’s a 30-SECOND commericial spot for the Super Bowl. I’m sure we’ll find those things you mentioned in the final trailer before the film’s release.
Re: 206 – But Stanky, if it isn’t like this trailer, it’ll be good, and then you’ll have to LIKE it! Say it isn’t so!
:-)
Scott B. out.
I’ve done a little skydiving in my time and and quite a lot of whoo hoo-ing especially the first couple of times.
#148- ‘Massive red shirt singularity’ ROTFLMAO! That itself could cause an alternate timeline ;-)
I agree that some trekkies can be so nitpicky and annoying. If they’re like this in the theater and annoy me, i’ll be curbstomping the whole load of them.
Well, after all these mainstream trailers, maybe they could do a trailer for the Trek fans, that shows the characters aren’t morons.
Friggin’ awesome!
We got almost three months left to watch this friggin; movie!
^209
Exactly what I mean. Self-absorbed, contemptuous of all that came before, short attention spans and a need for constant distraction from reality.
The problem with the “Get over yourself, man” neurosis is that it reflects the thought of the lower-castes. It is not the thought of the aristocracy or even the prosperous bourgeoisie. It reflects a marginalized society that is in constant tension (if not battle) against a vaguely defined, little understood “Them” but, because of its inherent powerlessness, all that can be mustered is smart-aleck language and an attitude of defiance. (And brand name purchase habits, fantasy retreat, and other signs of an inferiour but dissatisfied social status.)
It is difficult to imagine the Kirk character as a product of such. Leaders do not have inferiority complexes, although many a tyrant and all pretenders have. But to the several generations whose “reality” is nothign more than 20 or 30 years (or more) of Hollywood fantasy — i.e., watching recordings of other people’s lives, real or imaginary, they naturally believe themselves to be an actual part of that imaginary world, rubbing elbows as it were with the stars of Hollywood. Never mind their physical existence is pathetic in most respects… they have the televisor or “Thought Records” Roddenberry himself worte of in the script for The Cage.
By all appearances, this movie is made for the product of the Thought Record life. This is fascinating because Star Trek was made by men and women with actual, physical, emotional, mental lives outside Hollywood — war, families, jobs, careers before TV. Today’s Hollywood is a third or fourth generation of inbreeding without “real world” perspective.
Sadly, it would seem the target audience for most contemporary Hollywood entertainment is itself the product of Hollywood: grown adults that lack meaningful experience, thus lacking perspective, judgment and ultimately, wisdom.
The contrast between Star Trek and these trailers/spoilers makes that abundantly clear. I don’t care about making money for Paramount. I earn my living and support my family well enough. But I care deeply about what my countrymen think of themselves in their hearts — and the responses on sites such as this, not to mention the self-stated beliefs of younger colleagues, confirms for me that we are in a brave new world and the outcome is in grave doubt.
Star Trek 2009 will no doubt be popular with the Lost Generation and its smart-a$$ ennui. That’s not the point. The point is Abrams & Co have an opportunity to elevate the low state of this country’s movie audience and I have yet to see evidence of that in the least.
Pity.
Please, no snarky replies. I haven’t time to read them as I must now leave for a six-day business trip to Chicago… to live a real life of responsibility, worry, obligation, duty — and leadership by example to my family, friends and colleagues.
Sincerely,
C.S. Lewis
Nice ad. Missed opportunity, though.
Trek’s biggest challenge is overcoming the geek/loser label. You can’t de-geekify with action and quick cuts. Example: I saw the trailer for the Watchmen movie and it looked dark and very realistically violent. I still thought it looked stupid, and so did my wife. Nerdy.
I still say the ad should have featured a long, full shot of the green Orion slave girl, Trek’s single most recognizable cross-cultural icon. Gotta ratchet up the sex appeal in a Super Bowl commercial, to cut through the visual noise. The quick cuts may end up just being visual noise in the room, as people start talking. I don’t see how this ad makes Trek cool. It looks action packed, but I am interested to see how it plays to the masses.
#217
Oh dear, I really like your holier-than-thou attitude. Do you go around parading that to your family and friends? I feel sorry for them.
STXI is different, doesn’t mean it’s lacking anything right now. We only have the trailers and the words of the producers, nothing else. Keep blowing your BS and see your friends and family become a distant point in the horizon.
Sincerely,
WATCH THE MOVIE FIRST
A) I’m an old-time purist.
B) I’m an advocate of “canon.”
C) Screw A and B. After seeing this, I say bring it on!!
#205 – C.S. Lewis
HEAR, HERE!!!
I still say whatever. For this one I’m from Missouri. Show me.
205
And it’s not just your opinion. I’m with you too.
And don’t get me started on the lessening of behavior and standards. I see it everyday. I teach school.
@203…
haha, well said, Hat Rick
#217 – C.S. Lewis
Thanks! That made me laugh out loud. Egomaniac.
Holy sh**! That was sweet! This movie is gonna bring ST back, no questions asked.
Very cool! I like this new spot, and put together with the other trailer, it almost tells you something about the plot! Haha. Half kidding–it is a good commercial, and like they said will be good even with sound turned off. But I am eager for a new theatrical trailer. Exciting, nonetheless!
Interesting how the Pike speech can be applied to both Kirk and Spock (the trailer and this spot being centered around the two characters.)
I have a feeling this movie is going to set the broudery for a new generation and bring Star Trek back to the TV screen also I think Nero is actually going to help the Enterprise crew in the end agenst the romulan threat
To the people who constantly put down the new trek movie: SHUT UP and DON’T SEE IT.
I for one am looking forward to the new movie.
I believe in giving this a chance.
Whoohoo, looks awesome. Love it all. Yes, even Kirk acting like he should.
‘170. The Wild Man of Borneo – February 1, 2009
#168
So…you’re knocking Star Trek I and II? And you’re a fan of Star….?’
My friend, let me remind you that you are knocking a movie you have not even seen.
224, thanks.
I think that JJ Abrams is serious about his mission to make Trek a distinctive property, and one that plays on a combination of spectacle with its intrinsic strength — its humanity.
This is not to say that its principle competitor, Star Wars, isn’t humanistic. It is. But unlike Trek, SW diverged from its core story-telling into detail — turgid, mind-numbing detail — that distracted from the once-simple arc that captured its initial audience. The original SW, Episode IV, was a powerful retelling of classic tropes. We’ve all heard how Lucas’ vision coincided with the themes of the Seven Samurai, and how the story of Luke/Lucas seems at once universal and autobiographical. That central thread, based on character, was diluted in the subsequent films, and to see this, you need merely ask: What is Star Wars about, really?
Is Star Wars about Luke Skywalker, or is it, in the end, about Anakin?
Is it about good versus evil? If so, given the events of the Expanded Universe, which one wins?
The issue is muddied because Anakin’s arc was released after Luke’s, and so it appears that, as of the last-released film, evil has triumphed, although we know that this is not the intention.
Trek’s relevance has been that it is “more real” — more based on our universe, more relevant to us, in our time. At once, it is more fundamentally humanistic; the universe isn’t the vast expanse of empires and federations, but the existence that defines each of us — in every moment of every life.
An eternity can be found, as per Insurrection, in a single moment. A universe is found in a single soul.
And this is why a return to the fundamentals of Trek, by Abrams, by subsequent guardians of the property, has been essential.
Realism has its rewards.
And to that I say, Woohoo, indeed.
#205
You know, it’s interesting about young Kirk being this way. I would never in my life have thought that he wanted to do anything other than be in starfleet and command a starship. And I don’t think he ever did. Have you read William Shatner’s Star Trek Academy: Collision Course?
(MINOR SPOILERS IF YOU HAVEN’T SEEN “CONSCIENCE OF THE KING”)
Shatner goes into the whole ordeal with Kodos the Executioner. How for a young boy, for whom Starfleet was everything, Starfleet didn’t show up in time. All those people died, (in the book) children being used to round up and kill other children, Kirk’s own best friend trying to kill him. And 14 (I think) year old James Kirk protecting 4 or 5 other children younger than him, doing his best to protect them from all the death and horror that was around them. All the time, thinking “Starfleet will show up… they will save us,” but they showed up too late. Starfleet, which he had raised on a pedestal, had let him down, had failed him and all the colonists that died there. And so, that is why the young Kirk has such an issue with authority and Starfleet in particular.
Anyway, I think it is an interesting idea and very plausible in that kind of situation. My point is, now I really don’t have a problem with young Kirk being so rebellious and anti-authority.
And as to your point about the disapearence of the true Gentleman… yes. It is really sad, but very true. I’m a 22 year old woman, so I only have limited life experience, but I grew up on older movies and music. I do not believe that anyone my own age who I have ever met or come into contact with could honestly be called a “gentleman.”
Correction: “Principal” was misspelled in my last post. The correct word is “principal.” (Which goes to prove that I can be as pedantic as the next guy.)
woo hoo this is exciting
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233, I think that you’re spot on. The “Conscience of the King” references are deeply relevant to any understanding of Kirk’s psyche.
Like all institutions, Starfleet is imperfect. We’ve seen many instances of its fallibility in Trek canon, from its takeover by proto-fascists in Star Trek VI to its takeover by body-snatching aliens in TNG. It stands to reason that its failure would be a cause for reaction in the events you described.
Furthermore, in that Kirk, as a mature adult, is even more Starfleet than Starfleet, so to speak, the events of his earlier life also make sense. The newly converted are often stronger in their beliefs than those who have become inured to them and then more easily cynical later in life.
#233. You have some Good Points. Jimmy Kirk was with kodos and seen the Killings and heard the Spech that kodos read and cited and he truly belived that Starfleet would come to there rescue but they did not make it in time and he was forced to watch a lot of people die and He was only able to save a few. Including a young Riley. He became A Rebel and did not like star fleet and then we see him being the rebel that he was in the Movie and we see hoe he becomes the Capt we all know and love. thast my take on it and I think it is a Very Possible thas what happens.
217. C.S. Lewis: ‘ ^209: ‘The problem with the “Get over yourself, man” neurosis is that it reflects the thought of the lower-castes.’
That’s just snobbery!
‘Today’s Hollywood is a third or fourth generation of inbreeding without “real world” perspective.’
Abrams, Kurtzman and Orci are actually very good at making fantasy believable!
‘Star Trek 2009 will no doubt be popular with the Lost Generation and its smart-a$$ ennui.’
Now this is the killer remark and the death of all intellect in your posting! You’re saying that the film will be popular with Ernest Hemingway and Scott Fitzgerald?!!!! They are the Lost Generation. Maybe you mean the Millennials?
I’m late Generation X/early MTV Generation and I detest a lot of the dumbed down material out there. I’ve yet to see any evidence, though, that this Trek is dumbed down. The approach to the material is different, but I never got a boner over the pompous, pretentious aspects of TMO and TNG.
‘Please, no snarky replies. I haven’t time to read them as I must now leave for a six-day business trip to Chicago… to live a real life of responsibility, worry, obligation, duty — and leadership by example to my family, friends and colleagues.’
Then don’t post here if you don’t want any discussion!
85. Best post of the thread.
I always thought I was as hardcore as the next guy, but at this moment I would be willing to completely forget everything I know about Trek and start over from scratch with no preconceived notions or expectations. I’ve lived half my life getting to know the original trek — how exciting it would be to live the second half of it experiencing the discovery all over again?
After watching not just the Star Trek Super Bowl commercial, but also Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen and G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra, Paramount is going to have a good summer 2009. I have read comments on other sites and the general reaction I have gotten is that people who have never gotten Star Trek or given it a chance are willing to do so after seeing the commercial. So that is very good for the movie and Star Trek in general.
#83, #85 LOL, love the comments, but it was Terra Prime that tried attacking Starfleet Command not the Xindi. I love how every time San Francisco is in danger the Golden Gate is always the first thing to get attacked, destroyed, or something bad happens near it.
#17-Andy Patterson Why are you talkin’ to me man?” Just makes me mad hearing it., Makes you mad? Makes me VERY VERY NERVOUS!!! I have tried so hard to be accepting of this movie, accepting of the new group of actors, accepting of YES the MANY MANY MANY radical changes of this supposed altered timeline. Guess what this NOT even an altred timeline, because in altered timelines — the “players” remain true to their characters. Kirk saying “man”, are you kidding me? Even a “casual” Star Trek knows better than that. I’ve reviewed the clip six times and still (pardon the pun) CANNOT believe my ears. This isn’t Star Trek — this is “21 Jump Street in the 23rd Century”. Oh — I hope I’m so wrong!!!
My 15 year old son a “millenial” said to me, “Dad, Captain Kirk would not speak that way….”
Thorsten my friend, who I so respect — how did you react when you heard the line “man”. What is your take?
I have not cared about a Star Trek movie\show since 1996.
I’d say so far, JJ & Co. Have done very well for this franchise.
I have friends that would otherwise dismiss Star Trek as REALLY lame, rave about how this movie looks unbelievably cool, and not just for a Trek movie, but any movie.
Considering the perceived state of Trek after the *Enterprise* debacle, I’m excited by the prospect of a quarter-billion dollar Trek movie.
#243
If Voyage Home had been made now, they would have crashed into the bridge, destroying at least part of it, and the audience would have gasped and yelled, “THE WHALES!!!”
;)
Just sent the link to a friend. After watching it, he wrote me: “Why don’t they just call it Star Wars ?”
243
Well it is painted RED :-)
Cool. Go Cards!!
you guys seriously have got to get over yourselves. nitpicking a single word or a line?!?! Come on.
I guess it’s true.. you already have preconceived notions about this movie and nothing will ever sway you. And if this movie was perfect… you would STILL find something wrong about it. It’s in your nature. You want this movie to fail and you want to hate it. I bet in every single thing that has bee released abuot this movie.. you have found at least one thing to pick apart.. such as with this trailer and the words “man” or “woo hoo” … LOL you guys are too much! Crack me up!
I think all some people really want is for The New Voayges people to be given a huge budget and free rein to put their fan films on the screen.
But then when they upgraded for the big screen they’d catch it too.
I for one am glad we’re getting a real movie.
@244…
Sam, the Pike pep talk was part of the scene JJ showed to introduce our young and troubled hero… It begins with Kirk flirting with Uhura, the fight with the cadets and all. Pike saves Kirk from being beaten to a pulp, and tells his story about destiny. It did not bother me at all how Kirk talked, because it fit well into the whole situation.
This is a small part at the beginning of an epic tale, I would not worry too much about is Sam. I am still highly optimistic that Damon Lindelof and Bob Orci did the best they could to deliver a movie that works well with the core and the fringe…
#247
Just sent the link to my friend as well, after watching it, he wrote to me: “Holy shit, that’s the Star Trek you’ve been watching?”
Yes, it is the Star Trek I’ve watched and enjoyed.
@232…
that was a good question, Rick, what is Star Wars about…
While it was pretty easy to answer that question for Eps 4 and 5 and even 6, it became quite difficult with 1, 2 and 3. I remember how I stood on the red carpet after the Berlin Premiere of 3 in 2005 and explained into the cameras of two german networks the muddled backstory of the Clone Wars…
Why did the Viceroy attack Naboo with the Droid Army? What was Palpatins agenda? What was Dookus motivation to play along? Who ordered the clone army, and why?
That whole thing was too complicated, a lot of people did not understand that Sidious created the whole Clone Wars to topple the Republic and kill the Jedi…
#252 – Hey Thorsten, AS ALWAYS, thanks for your quick reply. I do understand what you’re saying. It’s just from that scene made Kirk look and sound like James “Teen” Kirk and not James T. Kirk. I’m not looking for a Bill Shatner impersonation — I just want to see an intrepretation that successfully portrays the character and soul of Kirk. Lets assume for just a second that the James Kirk in this movie is the same age as the James Kirk in WNMHGB — I just cannot see him saying the line “man”.
I always prefer to reference to season #1 of TOS, because it really was (to me) “human drama at its best and purest form”. James Kirk was a serious commander (certainly more serious and less melodramatic in seasons 2 and seasons 3). And that is where I see such inconsistencies in the character as portrayed, albeit — in a 2 minute trailer.
Other than that I hope you’re having a great weekend. Once I’m done with the laundry my son and I will be watching ONLY Super Bowl stuff today. I like the Steelers and their history (always have), but I’m going with the Cardinals!
BEST REGARDS!SB
I hope that in this “big action movie”, there will be place enough for relationships between kirk, Spock and Mc Coy… I Also hope that the only way to solve problems won’t be a huge laserbeam and a funny quote (like “assimilate this” for example… )
But I’m not really optimistic.
A french fan…
Has no-one else managed to get any screencaps from the preview? Other than the ones we got from the site? Any in higher quality?
The Xindi attack changed everything. 6 Years after the Xindi attack, Starfleet has kept Earth Safe. Sure, Transporter Travel is now logged and tracked into a central database and Law Enforcement use their stun settings a lot more willingly, but these are the sacrifices that must be made if we are going to live openly in the Alpha Quadrant.
Instead of sending one ship into the Expanse to look for the Xindi, Starfleet should have sent an armada. Starfleet unfortunately made the wrong choice when it preemptively attacked the Klingon Homeworld after the attack. Don’t tell me this war isn’t about dilythium crystals because that’s the only reason why we’re there.
I’m being silly
From the perspective of the shot, it appears that the Academy might be on Yerba Buena Island, and that the beam is hitting near or on Alcatraz. Actually, in all honesty this shot looks like it is farther west toward San Francisco than Yerba Buena, but obviously they have changed the land layout to an extent.
It is also possible that the academy is on alcatraz, but the the image of the view agle of the golden gate doesn’t seem to make sense.
Nice touch..there is a picture of Neil Armstrongs moonwalk at the wall of the bar..if you look fast enough….at about 00:04 :-)
wait, it is on Treasure Island, which is attatched to Yerba Buena Island
#244, your son said Captain Kirk wouldn’t talk that way and he was correct, he wouldn’t but a 20 year old Jim Kirk may well do. At that age I had long hair, was touring in a rock band and doing all the associated stuff, now at 43 I’m an assistant Director of IT for a university. The 20 year old me and the current version are so opposite, so very different it’s hard to imagine we are the same person, it took a long journey to get where I am.
For a more Star Trek example look only as far as Spock, what was he like in the cage? Smiling at musical flowers? What was he then like in the Unification episodes? Completely different!
This movie is about the Journey that Kirk and Spock take to become the characters we all came to love and know in TOS. Give them a chance to get there.
Also I think that if I were sky diving from orbit i might well shout Wooohoo! ( although I would now most likely be praying a lot and trying to remember if I’d written my will!)
Love the skydiving from space idea.
I was upset that Kirk’s space-skydiving scene was cut from Generations. Nice to see he finally gets to do it ;)
Where is Leonard Nimoy?
It’s almost like the marketing team is ashamed to have anything to do with what has gone before. No Nimoy in the trailer (only the online version) and no Nimoy in the Superbowl commercial. What gives?
For many Leonard Nimoy’s return is the major selling point for this actually being a real Star Trek film and not just another reboot with a bunch of pretty boys and girls that would feel at home on MTV.
Looking good! Star Trek,old scool style, was all about fantasstic, out of this world, imaginative action/adventure laced with good humor and dash of sexy fun for good measure. This is NOT your daddy’s Trek..this is your grand daddy’s trek with modern spit and polish!
After 20 yeats of often boring, mediocre Trek on television, TOS is back to remind people that Star Trek…old school, colorful, ripped shirt, flying kick-style Trek is fun! Bring it!
#264,
Leonard Nimoy’s involvement in the movie is what cemented my belief in it. I would still be excited to see it if he weren’t in it, but knowing he is reprising the role of “Spock” after so many years is the best thing this movie could EVER have!!
I heard by word of mouth that someone who has seen the new movie has said that it delivers in all areas and that there’s enough emotion and character moments to satisfy a cry-baby. Didn’t spoil anything, just made me more confident in this movie. So DON’T worry. I know its hard for some of you, having only seen the trailers like me, but trust me, or should I say, trust the guy who has actually seen it.
As I’ve said repeatedly before, I will not attend the opening week of this film. I cannot wait to see it, but will not pay good money to endure the sneers and snide remarks of arrogant selfish Trek cannon snobs. You whiny children can have the whole first week to annoy audiences with your unwelcome poor manners and closed minds. I, on the other hand, will see this film repeatedly in Imax, taking friends and family at every opportunity to enjoy Trek as they’ve never seen it before.
p.s. If I paid for a film in 2009 and a futuristic San Fransisco was depicted exactly as it was in 1979, I’d walk out and demand my money back.
The only constant is change. Embrace that and you begin living. Shun it and you wither on the vine.
I thought we people are supposed to be open minded. Some of us are judging a 2-hour movie based on 1:45 of footage (trailer plus commercial).
244
It’s not just that he says “man”. It’s that he says it like crazy, druggie Dennis Hopper from “Apocalypse Now”.
I retract my previous Bill and Ted, Cheech and Chong comparison comment.
He’s ‘Dennis Hopper’ Kirk now.
#252-Mr. Lirpa “244, your son said Captain Kirk wouldn’t talk that way and he was correct, he wouldn’t but a 20 year old Jim Kirk may well do. At that age I had long hair, was touring in a rock band and doing all the associated stuff, now at 43 I’m an assistant ….”
So then in this interpretation Kirk becomes Captain of the Enterprise at 20??? If that’s case I’m really really worried????
You know, as much as I’d like the movie to directly import all previous content and back story from the original series, I’ve never thought that this movie shouldn’t happen with a new group of producers and actors.
I won’t mind all the changes to the characters history if the reasoning for the changes are solid.
At this point, it looks like it very well might be. And to put it out there during the Super Bowl is just fantastic.
264 – Excellent points. A glimpse of Mr. Nimoy in this would help to bring a lot more long-time fans, in addition to the the younger crowd this commercial is clearly geared towards.
What I would like to see is some kind of McCoy – Spock banter or older Spock sharing some kind of insight he finds “fascinating”. That could really bring me around, if it’s done well. That said, I like the Enterprise a lot more from this angle.
As I understand, and those who were at the sneak previews please correct me if I’m wrong, Kirk is in his mid twenties in the bar fight, then goes to the academy and at graduation, McCoy gets him on Enterprise. This makes him about 30 when the main story starts. Since varying reports from the prime universe on Kirk’s age have him taking command about that age, that works for me… better be some pretty extraordinary events which allow a fresh academy grad to take over the Federation’s newest coolest starship, regardless of age.
Again, like the trailer, I can’t judge the film by this ad- it’s meant to pull in a very different audience. I again ask and hope the producers bother to do a “for the fans” trailer straight to the web. They should debut it here, really… I think it would assuage some justified fears of we the old folks.
@271…
Sam, we will see Jim Kirk becoming the leader we know by the events depicted in the movie… he will not become Captain just like that.
Pike tells him he can be an officer in four years and have his own ship in eight…
When he enters the shuttle to the academy he says “Four years? I’ll do it in three.”
Orci would not write this lines without reason.
#88 Jonny Boy
U got it right, I agree.
JJ, you did not disappoint. Thank you!!!!!
I hope this movie takes the box office by storm.
I think it is great and makes me thing ‘woo hoo’ and I do love the people who are ‘upset’ and ‘angered’ etc by Kirk saying ‘woo hoo’ First, who cares, second, it appears he isn’t the guy who said it. It just shows how knee-jerk haters get themselves worked up for no reason. I think they want to hate and even when faced with facts contrary to their hate they refused to believe them.
Fantastic trailer! Well played. I believe this movie will do very well.
55. Will – Pulling out the Rob Cohen slander… dude! You must really want to hurt JJ’s feelings.
I find the poll interesting, with 62% grading this as an A. I gave it a B, but what is most interesting is 9% gave it a D or F, and yet when you read the comments it looks like 40%….but that is because the haters like Borneo are just spamming over and over and the squeeky wheels are out in force
ignore them. with every step of this movie the same 10% of haters have come out and screamed. They decided they hated this movie years ago and nothing will change their minds.
stop feeding those trolls.
Star Trek is back…it is a friggin Super Bowl commercial. I can’t even believe this is happening only a few years after Enterprise was cancelled and that craptacular Nemesis thing stunk up the theaters. I guess all those haters want more of that…well I am glad that era is over and dead.
#276 — Thorsten, you’re THE MAN!!! Just a couple of quick questions, do we have any idea just how old Kirk is the bar scene? I will have to guess 24-25, since he did become Captain (at least the TOS Kirk) at age 29?
Without giving too much away — what is your opinion of Greenwood’s Pike, versus Hunter’s Pike????
160. The Wild Man of Borneo – February 1, 2009
Star Trek: The Motion Picture.l…it’s not made for kids and it really is a human adventure for the soul. You should check it out sometime.
>>>Yeah, right. My adult brain was particularly stimulated by that scene where they shake the camera and leave the lens open for a classic 70s era tracers effect. “PHOOOOOOOO TON TOOOOOOOOR PEEEEEE DOOOOOOOOZ.!”
Not your fathers Star Trek!!!
freaken awsome.
For those wondering about Nimoy, his involvement is an integral part of the story. These trailers and commercials are quick clips. Paramount obviously doesn’t want to confuse the Trek n00bs.
Addressing the commercial, Kirk definitely seems to be a young man coming into his own, which he probably will at the end of the movie. One thing we have to keep in mind is that this movie isn’t taking place over the course of a week or a day, like previous Trek movies. This is going to be taking place over a few years. I fully expect after the threat of Nero is taken care of for there to be a “2 years later” or something and for Kirk to come onto the bridge of the Enterprise with Captain’s stripes on his uniform and to toss off a comment about serving on the Farragut before he takes the center seat and sends the ship off on her first five year mission with Jim Kirk.
Also, if Kirk were the one saying “Woo hoo”, he’d damn well better be saying it. Who wouldn’t? I’m scared to death of crap like that, but even I would probably be yelling that on the way down from an orbital skydive.
The Enterprise looks fantastic and seems to be taking advantage of the fact that the ship uses phaser turrets, meaning that the ship can fire at least 4 shots from the ventral phasers. San Francisco also looks cool.
But to me, the thing that sealed it, that made the commercial was that exchange between Kirk and McCoy. Pure, unadulterated WIN.
It is pointless to nit-pick this movie anymore. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion about what Star Trek is, and to a lesser extent that opinion is mitigated by established canon. but the fact is this movie has been made. Moreover, JJ & Co. have already informed us that canon is irrelevant here. LET ME BE CLEAR: canon from TOS universe. As Clostetrekker has pointed out numerous times, this movie IS canon as far as the franchise is concerned. We are in uncharted territory here with these characters and the realities of “this” universe and Abrams is free to change anything he likes, including making Kirk some kind of juvenile delinquent. Worrying about whether Kirk would or would not behave a certain way is moot. This is NOT the same James T Kirk from TOS universe. This is the Kirk from the tangent timeline created when Nero traveled back in time. It is a pure “reboot” of TOS timeline, in the sense that the writers are now free to reject or include anything they want from the original series, because it hasn’t happened yet for anybody, not even the audience watching through the 4th wall. So stop saying “that wouldn’t happen” or “he would never do that”. None of this has anything to do with what the classic TOS fan knows and is all about re-imagining those classic characters, literally in a brand-new universe. So sit back and enjoy and if you MUST nit-pick, simply say you don’t like it, but refrain from saying it’s not possible. This ain’t your father’s Star Trek, or yours for that matter, it;s your children’s and just like their future lives, anything is possible.
To everyone worried about Kirk saying “man”, McCoy said “Dammit, Man!” all the time. The expression is around in the 23rd century.
I hope I’m not categorized as one of the haters or trolls, because I do remain hopeful…
I would just like to point out that the reason the Enterprise is exciting everyone in this trailer is because from this angle, you can’t see the changes as much. If they had used a ship closer to the original in this shot, with these effects, wouldn’t our excitement level be twice as high?
And, since this is a youthful action pick targeted largely to “new” Trek fans, would it really have hurt the film to use designs much closer to the originals?
If the goal of marketing to newbies is to hide Nimoy, barely show the Enterprise and not show any of the classic gear anyway, it seems all those things are primarily for the existing Trek fans. And if that’s the case, why not excite the fans more with greater continuity?
PS: I am in love with Zoe.
Ahh man, this trailer just got me even more excited for this movie, I can’t wait! This is going to be a great film I can feel it!
Re: 260
They had a newspaper with the headline “MAN WALKS ON THE MOON”on the wall of the bar in “Dumb and Dumber”. Jim Carrey sees it and goes, “No way!” and then leaves shouting, “We landed on the moon!”
Re: 259
I thought the shot looked like Pier 39 near the Embarcadero.
Unbelievable. I’m now even more adamant in my assertion that I am NOT a Star Trek Fan.
I’m just someone who enjoys Star Trek.
I’m 23.
I liked it. A lot.
It reminds me a lot of when they re-released Doctor Who in ‘05, and all the people who’d been fans in the 70s, and were in their 40s at the time, were screaming ‘THEY’VE MASDE IT FOR CHILDREN’.
Point out the mathematics in the statement there and recieve a cookie. When they watched the original, it was for children. When they watyched the new series, it is for children. The only thing that had changed was the people watching it.
#239
I wouldn’t bother responding to #217. He immunized himself from any criticism by saying responses to his critique will be ignored. You see, he’s far too busy and important a man to be bothered with the opinions of anyone but himself. He’s smarter, kinder and more genteel than any of us could ever hope to be, and thus any retort we muster will be worthless and ill-conceived. He’s a *real* person. He has a job, a family, a personal life. This makes him superior to every last one of us poor, lost souls that clearly lack all of these fundamental requirements for offering an opinion worth considering.
Never mind that the concept of ‘the gentleman’ that he’s espoused is nothing more than a myth, and that the so-called ‘gentlemen’ of the 40s & 50s were – in many cases – simply closet misogynists in a gentleman’s clothing. That those self-professed ideal men were simply the result of an extreme shift from the excess and experimentation of the 20s & 30s and a return to what was perceived as a more noble standard ripped straight from the headlines of our puritanical past is not the point. No, it’s the outside that counts, the perception that they were cut from a better cloth. The superficial affectations that served to mask intolerance, sexism & blind ignorance should be weighed with a far greater value than true intent.
Honestly, it’s a wonder C.S. can make it through the day having to interact with the great mass of unwashed humanity that make up the lower-caste and are clearly so very far beneath him. Poor chap.
@283…
Sam, I agree, he should be between 20 and 25 in the bar scene…
after all he is not on track and wasting his life… Uhura tells him after he revealed that he knows what Xenolinguistics are: “I’m impressed, for a moment I thought you were just a dumb hick who only has sex with farm animals.” Pike adds later “You are the only genius-level repeat offender in the Midwest.”
So I guess he dropped out of school and rides his BMW since then…
Re: Made for children.
It’s funny. That’s what they said about the Star Wars prequel haters, whom defenders accused of becoming old and forgetting the childlike wonder of Star Wars. To which I’d reply, “I didn’t forget, f***ing Lucas forgot!” How come I’m old and I still like the originals?
I know May 9th is not far away but it still seems like an eternity !
Of course, earlier depiction of Starfleet place the academy on the Presidio.
#288 “So stop saying “that wouldn’t happen” or “he would never do that”. None of this has anything to do with what the classic TOS fan knows and is all about re-imagining those classic characters, literally in a brand-new universe.”
Thank you!
To All The Haters,
Shut up…please just shut up. You all sound BEYOND ignorant.
So what if this isn’t true to Star Trek entirely? Frankly, Star Trek as it was made int he 60’s and 90s just isn’t going to appeal to a mass mainstream audience like it used to. Our standards have changed. This movie looks like it’s going to be pretty cool. If it musses up some backstory or plays a little loose with the characters, so be it. It’s entertainment. I’d rather have them muss up a few things and make this a successful franchise again than have it flop and see star trek live on only in crappy fan films (Phase 2 excepted).
@274…
Spock Prime while encountering Scotty on Iceworld:
“Fascinating. You’re Montgomery Scott”
To McCoy you wrote
“I would just like to point out that the reason the Enterprise is exciting everyone in this trailer is because from this angle, you can’t see the changes as much. If they had used a ship closer to the original in this shot, with these effects, wouldn’t our excitement level be twice as high?”
No it would not be. And your whole ‘change is bad’ thing is not something that applies to all fans like you seem to be implying, only you and your extremist wing. I love how you feel you need to come in here and ‘let us know’ that we really should be hating this because ‘we cant see the changes’…guess what, we know what the ship looks like dude.
I really really don’t get people like you, but it is clear that your whole ‘all change is bad’ attitude is going to keep you from enjoying the movie, i feel sorry for you and the rest like you. I am glad to see the poll shows that the vast majority like this commercial and probably understand it for what it is. A commercial to make Trek appeal to the masses.
#304
Well, maybe a bit more elaborate :). Yet, I think that would have comedic potential.
290 McCoy – he wrote: “I would just like to point out that the reason the Enterprise is exciting everyone in this trailer is because from this angle, you can’t see the changes as much. If they had used a ship closer to the original in this shot, with these effects, wouldn’t our excitement level be twice as high? And, since this is a youthful action pick targeted largely to “new” Trek fans, would it really have hurt the film to use designs much closer to the originals?”
You are absolutely wright. I agree with your every word. You are not alone, who sees it in this way.
I meant “absolutely right” in 307 of course :-)
Hmm… Definitely a heavy focus on Kirk. I wonder if subsequent ads will focus on Spock? McCoy? The Pressor and Mary Ann? (Oh, wrong show.)
Some of those beauty shots had my jaw drop. This is going to be one awesome film!
That should be “Professor.”
Wish I could spell….and type….
I’m very aroused
- This new trailer is very interesting…hmmm…
I don’t want to get into a flamewar, but CS Lewis’ posts at #205 and later just irk me. I dislike it when people set themselves up as the final arbiters of all that is good-and-pure in the ‘verse. Judge not, lest ye be judged — your namesake being quite the Christian would have remembered that, I would think.
People have complained about “lowered standards” and “kids these days” quite literally since the time of the Ancient Greeks. Over the sweep of history, however, these standards rose and fell along with their respective civilizations. Once the Roman Empire waned, and the Black Death swept across Europe, most folks were more concerned with basic survival than which fork to use.
I also have to strike down the notion of an idealized past of ‘gentlemen and ladies.’ Supposed gentlemen, like British Army officers for instance, were the perpetrators of massacres and genocide throughout the 19th and early 20th centuries.
Look up the Amritsar Massacre (portrayed in the Gandhi biopic), for one example, or the bloody conflicts like the Crimea and the Boer wars. In North America, ‘gentlemen’ were responsible for slavery, the Trail of Tears, and Custer’s massacres of aboriginal peoples.
I don’t mean to vilify wealthy white men only, as groups-in-power of all colours and persuasions, considered gentlemen all by their societies, have abused their power against minorities-out-of-power for generations. But in this instance, at this moment in history, the idea of ‘gentlemanliness’ is really a coded, reactionary demand for the Great Unwashed to Speak White, isn’t it?
Much has changed in the past 50 years. We take for granted, at least in the West, unprecedented personal mobility, and also social mobility. Or a least, we pay homage to the idea of it, when, as lately events have shown true, “gentlemanly” oligarchs and plutarchs are content to lap up fat profits while holding the rest of humanity at the barrel of a gun, quoting scripture chapter and verse to justify their actions or keep the uneducated docile.
What upsets “gentlemen” like CS Lewis is that the rest of us do not know our place, and worse still, we are uppity, multiracial feminists to boot. If CS and his ilk prefer to live in an idealized Jane Austen fantasia that’s their prerogative, but the world has moved on — and we no longer tolerate the social and economic hypocrisy of our “betters.”
IDIC! and, if I may say, woo-hoo.
#185
Agreed!
some people just can’t embrace new things, a black President for example!!!
Does anyone comprehend that when Kirk is saying the “man” line to Pike that he’s A) probably still drunk…and B) just had the crap beaten out of him by a bunch of Starfleet cadets? I’d have an attitude problem too.
This movie looks like it’s only made for the ADD crowd!
307 – With general audiences, I don’t think the excitement factor of seeing the Enterprise in one shot at that angle.
However, it there was nothing different about this movie, it would not achieve the notice it’s getting, and likely not do well at the box office.
If any of you nitpickers are sitting anywhere near me at my theatre.. I do hope you guys will be quiet during the movie and keep your comments to yourself until you get back home in your mom’s basement ;)
Of course we all know that the nitpickers are the one’s talking during the movie saying things like “That’s BS” or “He can’t say that” or “That’s not MY Enterprise.” LoL… well, you get the idea.
Correction (first sentence, post 317): With general audiences, I don’t think the excitement factor of seeing the Enterprise in one shot at that angle would be measurably different.
I’ll be pirating this movie rather than paying to see it.
what concerns me is that the Enterprise appears to be flying like the milenium falcon..its supposed to be more like a Navel vessel, a star destroyer… not a.. a.. torpedo boat
the rest of the clips are too brief to draw conclusions
the device shooting from orbit isn’t the Xindi sphere. Is the land mass you can see florida? if so, how does that fit with it being San Fran on the ground?
this ain’t no Frakes directed snoozer that’s for sure!!
JJ Abrams knows his stuff!
Felicity, Alias, LOST, Fringe and Mission Impossible: 3!!!!
@321…
The drill hits in the area of 37°49′19.41″N and 122°26′56.81″W
#322
“Felicity, Alias, LOST, Fringe and Mission Impossible: 3!!!!”
Alias and Lost started to suck after Season 1, M:I 3 is an average movie and Fringe OMG. I watched the last episode. It really was an insult to anyone’s intelligence. A video that melts brains and fries harddisks ? Really ? A massively large file with the size of 600 megs ? A geek that can track the downloads of a file in real time to exact locations on the basis of two burned hard drives ? IP addresses, that start with 462 ?
#28 sez: “Done right it could be brilliant.”
On that, I think, we ALL agree.
My main concern continues to be what _seems_ like painfully trite dialogue, but I’m hoping it’s just the edits in the trailers that give this impression.
I remain hopeful, cautiously more-or-less optimistic.
” 295. Doomsponge – February 1, 2009 I’m 23 liked it. A lot.”
.Doomsponge I am 39 and all I have to say is ,sometimes it just sucks for us older people to relate to what is new. That being said, I am a fan of Star Trek I believe in all of its incarnations. Granted I did not like everything about them but I try to remain open. I winced at the “who hoo” and I did think the man line was cliche’ but …it did look fun.
” It reminds me a lot of when they re-released Doctor Who in ‘05, and all the people who’d been fans in the 70s, and were in their 40s at the time, were screaming ‘THEY’VE MASDE IT FOR CHILDREN’.
Point out the mathematics in the statement there and recieve a cookie. When they watched the original, it was for children. When they watyched the new series, it is for children. The only thing that had changed was the people watching it.” Wowo wisdom out of the mouth of babes…
And I see, as usual, that there are lots of knee-jerk types talking about “haters” despite the fact that, in over 300 posts, only one poster (#131) has expressed hatred, and even HE still thinks it mostly looks cool.
So, a message to the MANY of you who have invented the concept of “haters” in your fevered little minds: can you please demonstrate the existence of this boogeyman?
Seriously. Do a search for the string “hate” on this page, and you will find no haters, only people (including, at the moment, me) discussing this theoretical, imaginary group.
Doing a freeze-frame in the bar brawl scene…it kinda looks like Suiu is one of the people Kirk gets into it with. Anyone else think so?
The space diving looks pretty cool. It does fit in with the alternate opening for Generations with Kirk space diving.
It does look like no other trek film before it. If they capture the characters and the bells and whistles don’t take over from the story we might be okay.
322: “Felicity, Alias, LOST, Fringe and Mission Impossible: 3!!!!”
One person’s hit list is another person’s s**t list.
185: “Things have to move on or else they just die off. Go and watch Star Trek: New Voyages and stop moaning.”
Maybe things will split up into Phase II and JJ Trek and no one will ever know which Trek is the real Trek now.
#330
the studios liked his body of work enough to hire Team JJ Abrams to breathe new life into an old and dying franchise.
they couldve just as easily stuck with Frakes.
but they wanted a new direction for this franchise.
Yeah, big action movie to derail you from what’s going on in the world, and going out and doing something about it, YEAH!!!!
OK i have just viewed it for the 5th time and well kudos to the ad team.
For me the no 5 made it stand out. It will be a good summer film period. I remember Iron Man trailers being ok. It was not until the last theatrical trailer that really got my juices flowing. I just hope the last trailer for trek can emulate that response
327, I think your term for “haters” is rather loose. Where you see 1 I see easily a good 100.
Oh dear – Paramount Pictures have had the video taken off of Youtube.
The Academy visuals are gorgeous. I’m glad that at least THAT hasn’t been transplanted to Iowa! ;-)
332: Sure, you’re right. But the studio bosses’ hit list is still my s**t list.
Frakes is a proven TNG movie director. I think he wouldn’t have been the best choice even if someone else than JJ (someone with more love for Trek?) had done this Star Trek project.
bottom line is that I’ll go see & support this movie because I love Star Trek, even when that included some of the most horrible movies & tv shows in Trek history!!
I’ll probably disagree with some stuff in this movie but I have a feeling i’ll enjoy more than I dislike after it’s over!!!
I just wish that more people or rather Trek fans, would be more welcoming to the movie.
How’s it get out to begin with? What’s the point of taking it down now just to put it up again after the Superbowl?
About ‘haters’: Maybe we should distinguish between ‘hate’ as in ‘I hate ketchup on hotdogs’ and ‘hate’ as in ‘Khan hates Kirk’?
Welp, its gone.
Still got the same highly offensive sexual content, I’m afraid as much as I’d like to see a new Star Trek film, I’ll be sitting this on out after all. No sense in paying people to smut-up movies. It’s unfortunate, I’ve been waiting a year to see it.
I’m still not sold on Chris Pine’s “bad boy” James T. Kirk scenes. I don’t have a problem with the actor, just the way the character of Kirk appears to have been written. I can understand why the filmmakers probably went that route but I just don’t think its a particularly clever, original or pleasing view of the character and strikes me instead as an unoriginal ‘Hollywood’ grab in the hopes of making the character more accessible to mainstream audiences – the kind of thing we were subjected to way too often on Enterprise quite frankly. Hopefully scenes like those shown in the TV spot are more the exception and a (very) minor part of the character’s story arc.
Other than that, everything looks great. I love the look of the film (Enterprise in action looks kick-ass) and most of the other bits of acting (especially Karl Urban’s Dr. McCoy, who I always thought would be great) work just fine.
Ouch. Taken down by Paramount.
I can’t think why………
(oh, hang on)…
So, anyway – this Superbowl thingy…. what’s that all about then? Will it be good this year? I’m not sure I can stay up til 4am UK time to watch the Trek teaser…. (who am I kidding?)
343: Kirk has always been a ladies’ man, particularly in the TOS era.
@345
I’m not sure that us UK fans will get to see those trailers. I would assume that the channels who broadcast the Superbowl over here won’t have bought the rights to show trailers as well. :S
345: I’m sure they fear nobody will watch the Superbowl anymore when the trailer is out beforehand.
Great trailer. I like Chris Pine.
RTF!
according to AintItCool, NBC will exclusivly upload the SuperBowl trailers to their website.
I’m not sure why this is.
Looks like the trailer has been pulled by Paramount.
RTF!
and… Paramount has noticed the trailer, down it goes
re: 212. Scott B. here. – February 1, 2009
“Re: 206 – But Stanky, if it isn’t like this trailer, it’ll be good, and then you’ll have to LIKE it! Say it isn’t so!”
No…I won’t have to like it. The odds of me liking it go down with every piece of information released. There must be some part of me within that still holds out some hope that this will be worthwhile in any way. So far, I have not found it. It looks too far away from anything I consider to be Star Trek.
By the way, for UK fans – The Motion Picture has just started on Sky SciFi/Horrow HD and the Wrath of Khan will be showing after it.
The NFL Super Bowl is also showing live on Sky Sports HD1 at 10pm. No word on whether the ad breaks from the US will also air on the channel.
its still on youtube, just use the search
the woohoo is coming from Olsen, just before he goes splat
I’m not sure about Eric Bana.
the guy has never impressed me with anything he’s done.
his ears are funny tho.
re: 215. Unbel1ever – February 1, 2009
“Well, after all these mainstream trailers, maybe they could do a trailer for the Trek fans, that shows the characters aren’t morons.”
Maybe that isn’t possible.
The absolute ONLY concern of the studio and filmmakers seems to be $$$$$$$$$$$. I understand the appeal of that to them. But I don’t like it.
If they prove me wrong, so be it.
A hot rod rebble without a cause Kirk?
….more, more !!!!!! i have no complaints, great to to see future san fran back on the big screen, that matte shot is flawless, !! More shots of the enterprise pleaaaase :):):)
#313:”Judge not, lest ye be judged — your namesake being quite the Christian would have remembered that, I would think.”
Actually, C.S. Lewis the writer was quite the judgmental, self-righteous and closed-minded old hack. These are among the reasons he remains so popular. LOL
oh stanky, won’t you please come with me and we’ll see it together? i’ll pay, and drinks afterwards are on me as well!
because i will enjoy so very much your agony and writhing, and with each of your moans and wails of disgust i will bask in delight. your discomfort and rage will increase my enjoyment of this magnificent film tenfold!
please?
I love the San Francisco shot with the shuttles flying above the Golden Gate bridge!
I generally like the style Earth is shown in the trailers. All these skyscrappers and the huge buildings which are seen in the Iowa shots in the distant background. To me they look like mighty freight elevators, almost reaching the orbit…
btw:
ARTBOOK PLEASE!!!!!
#362
an “The Art of Star Trek” or “The Ships/Vehicles of Star Trek” type books would be nice.
I imagine it would be in the vein of the SW art books that have been released.
re:361. Pock Speared – February 1, 2009
“oh stanky, won’t you please come with me and we’ll see it together? i’ll pay, and drinks afterwards are on me as well!
because i will enjoy so very much your agony and writhing, and with each of your moans and wails of disgust i will bask in delight. your discomfort and rage will increase my enjoyment of this magnificent film tenfold!
please?”
Thanks, but I already have a better offer.
This looks very awesome! Usually when a second trailer comes out, the film doesn’t look as good as the first trailer shows it to be, but this trailer makes it look even more incredible! Cannot wait to see it.
God bless!
Well, I’m going to watch the Superbowl later. Here in Germany there aren’t any commercials during the broadcast, so I won’t get to see the trailer on tv. Anyway: GO STEELERS !!!!
#217:
“Sadly, it would seem the target audience for most contemporary Hollywood entertainment is itself the product of Hollywood: grown adults that lack meaningful experience, thus lacking perspective, judgment and ultimately, wisdom.”
Sad indeed, but very painfully true.
I’d have it taken down too, if I was Paramount, seeing all the fanboy screaming.
if a sequel is commissioned, I would like for The Tholian’s to be the main antagonists!!!!!!
#316- Well, yes, this commercial is meant for the ADD crowd. It’s running for 30 seconds during the Superbowl, and your audience there is already half drunk and full of snacks and goal line adrenaline. I expect this commercial to be all action. It’s not my preferred sell, but I know why they are doing it this way. The larger question is how indicative this half a minute is of the other 119.5 in the film…
I beg you JJ- release a trailer for the Canonites!
Wow. I like the trailer. Wait, no, on second viewing, I love the trailer.
It’s amazing all the information we can get from 30 short seconds..
You have to give Paramount credit. Go big or go home. This Enterprise is more than my daddy’s E, and so it appears are the actors involved. **Personal note: I am actually old enough to remember the original.
Lets be honest here – this was our first glimpse of him as Kirk, and I have to saw i was stunned. Rough, uncut (insert many nuanced comments with that) and brash – just as he was described to be. The girls are going to show up for this movie too.
As for the canonistas – those whose brains don’t melt into their keyboards blogging after the release in May – are going to come around.
THIS IS CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!
And we just might get to see more Trek in the future.
There’s no sense in making a trailer to appeal to fans… we’ll be there regardless. They are concerned about putting more people in the seats than that.
372- agreed, they don’t NEED to, but I think it would be a nice gesture. It’s been cool having Bob Orci show up here, and the comic is a nice effort. I think some character stuff would be helpful to we the worried… Oh, let’s be honest- I am just trying to see more of the movie before May!
as the great President Barack Obama says:
this is change we that we need!!
1) This site is overly optimistic about this new movie. I would like an unbiased opinion rather than blind faith. To the people who say, “How can you bash it? You haven’t even seen it yet!”, I say, “How can you condone it? YOU haven’t seen it yet!”
2) Most of the Star Trek fans saying that we should embrace something new are the exact people who complained when Berman & Co. did anything new. They were the same people complaining that Deep Space Nine was on a space station, for crying out loud! I do not mean to make generalizations, but that’s pretty much all I ever read on a message board–complaints about them changing canon and dumbing it down.
3) The people bashing it for obviously being more dumbed-down are ridiculous. Star Trek has relied on T & A (and not much more) for many years. Seven of Nine, anyone? T’Pol, anyone? Now all the series have relied on it a fair amount, from the mini-shirts of TOS to Counselor Troi’s skin-tight pajamas on TNG, but at least TOS, TNG, and DS9 had something more intelligent going on! As for it being action-packed, all of the series and movies have featured characters with phaser rifles or characters fighting bad guys in hand-to-hand… phasers… etc., etc.. So now they actually have a budget! That’s great! I see nothing wrong with a little more action!
4) Honestly, I’m not seeing much optimism for this movie outside of this site. I don’t think it will do very well. That’s not being negative, that’s just recognizing that Star Trek is old and tired. I don’t see much of anyone really caring. I hope I’m wrong.
374-would you please explain what he’s done that’s great so far?
217 said: “The problem with the “Get over yourself, man” neurosis is that it reflects the thought of the lower-castes. It is not the thought of the aristocracy or even the prosperous bourgeoisie.” “…and other signs of an inferiour but dissatisfied social status.”
Is this the same “lower castes” that built America’s railroads, streets, bridges, and indeed America itself, from the ground up with their own bare hands? The same “lower castes” that wear the nation’s uniform or serve as first responders and put their lives on the line every day to protect you and your “aristocratic” way of life? Is this the same “lower castes” that are struggling a hell of a lot harder than you to feed their families and who work hard everyday for a little pay and hope every day that they’ll have their jobs tomorrow and that they can provide for their families? Your attitude is atrocious. The fact is that you’re not supeior to ANYONE! The sooner you realize that the better off you’re be!
343. ben – February 1, 2009 “Still got the same highly offensive sexual content, I’m afraid as much as I’d like to see a new Star Trek film, I’ll be sitting this on out after all. No sense in paying people to smut-up movies.”
Respectfully, you must refuse to watch at third of the Original Series episodes.
338: Frakes, “proven”? Maybe on the series, but as far as feature films, not so much. Remember, he directed two films. First Contact, which was a big success. Insurrection, which was mediocre at best. 50/50. Not good odds.
I digressed from the topic at hand which is Star Trek in the last post. I look forward to seeing the ad during the Superbowl (Go Cards!) and hope to see the trailer in higher quality online soon. May 8th can’t come soon enough.
I think it looks fun and gigantic. I’m optimistic about the whole thing!
205 CS Lewis – Yeah, those comments are pretty sanctimonious, especially coming from a guy whose handle references a racist proponent of eugenics.
Is that your avatar of gentlemanliness?
If so, you can have him and we’ll take Pine’s Kirk, man.
#375
“4) Honestly, I’m not seeing much optimism for this movie outside of this site. I don’t think it will do very well. That’s not being negative, that’s just recognizing that Star Trek is old and tired. I don’t see much of anyone really caring. I hope I’m wrong.”
The problem with that line of thought is all the rave reviews we’ve read outside this site from those who saw the test footage. This film is listed on numerous mainstream websites’ lists of ‘Most Anticipated’ and the Reelz Channel just called it the most anticipated film of the year in their trailer preview show. Apparently, there are more than a few reviewers and filmgoers who feel this might be a pretty good movie. I’m not saying it is, or that everyone thinking it is makes it so, just that optimism isn’t confined to TrekMovie.
i loved viewing this and the new scenes. wow this looks fantastic. im not bothered by the ‘whoo hooo’ bit but more concerned with kirk saying ‘man’ in the scene with christopher pike. didnt seem right to me.
however this is a small thing and i LOVED the introduction of leonard mcCoy with ‘jim’ kirk.
i think urban is going to be the surprise package in this movie.
cheers
Greg UK
Re: 353 – Stanky. I was just having fun in my previous post. Basically, it was my way of agreeing with you that the trailer didn’t do much for me either.
Re: 327 – I agree with you, S. John. There’s a difference between hate and dissent. I’m one of those who’s just a big ol’ Original Series fan, and have dreamed since before TMP came out of a Trek movie that was true to the show, but writ large for the silver screen. I thought this movie might fulfill that desire.
But the more I see of this latest incarnation, the more I doubt. I really do want to enjoy the film. Really I do. But if I don’t like the new designs of the ships, or the props or the set, or if a bit of dialog rubs me the wrong way in a 30 second trailer, well, I feel I’m allowed to speak up and express my opinion. If it’s a negative opinion, it’s not hate, just disagreement.
But time will tell. I still hope to be won over.
Scott B. out.
Is it May yet???????
AWESOME!!! Can’t wait to see the movie. Also, to all of the canon sticklers, please remember… THIS IS AN ORIGIN STORY: Spock’s not going to be the refind Vulcan of the latter films. He’s still struggling with his human half and the emotions that come with it. Kirk’s “why are you talking to me man” stems from being drunk and probably wondering “WTF is this old guy doing talking to me? I’m just a punk kid and it doesn’t matter.” Pike’s starting to be a mentor to Kirk. At least, that was my take on it.
Bottom line – can’t frakkin’ wait to see this movie!! Haven’t been this excited about Trek in quite a long time. Thanks JJ and company and thanks to Paramount for FINALLY sinking some money into this franchise again!
Interesting footage; but not a great deal of it was new. Visually, I was impressed. I’m not sure about Kirk yelling ‘whooo-hoo-hoo’, though. And I thought that his strop, and the whole story of the troubled protégé, is a little tired, like a cliché. (As I have said before, this film looks as if it will be Top Gun in space.)
However, at the end of the TV Spot, I felt that Pine was, recognisably, Kirk. And I was disappointed when the TV Spot ended: I wanted to see more.
I hope that the causal fans were impressed. There seems to be a buzz about this new film. The Times (UK broadsheet) ranks it as their 3rd most anticipated film of the year (behind Public Enemies and Harry Potter).
The attack on Corusan Francisco is like the verteron array beam in ENTs “Terra Prime”.
In the bar, there is a picture with Buzz Aldrin on the moon.
The Enterprise fires red pulse phasers.
A scene with Sulu on the platform is mirror-inverted.
You can see SF from orbit as it’s being attacked – a nice orbital view!
Sulu screams “wooo hoooo”.
So a young, emotional and passionate Jim Kirk is not allowed to say “whoo-hoo”? Are you kidding me?
Did you expect a “2001: A Space Odyssey” trailer with the Super Bowl?
Come on guys.
I don’t get it!!
did JJ Abrams make this film for hardcore TOS fans or for the casual Star Trek-in-general fan??
?
I just seen a commerical for nbc and i tell you Quinto may or may not be able to sing. But he ie very Talented. Can’t wait to see him as Spock in Trek.
#391 “did JJ Abrams make this film for hardcore TOS fans or for the casual Star Trek-in-general fan??”
Are the two categories incompatible? I am a hardcore TOS fan, and I’m very excited about this movie. I want to see something new. Something fresh.
LOL @ people getting upset that Pine yells “Wooo-hooo”. The guy is flying through the air at this point. What is he supposed to do keep a straight face and look incredibly serious? Not to mention he’s a young man, why does he have to be so dry? Are people looking for ANYTHING at this point to put this movie down?
Woo-hoo!
Ship looks beautiful at that angle. Love the fatter connecting dorsel. (Not so lovely from the side)
Proximity Phasers??? Or at least a very different phaser effect.
Spockboy, Broadway, Bailey,
Thoughts???????????????????/////
That is freakin cool!!!!! :)
since this is a TEAM JJ Abrams film, I won’t be surprised if there’s a “Dharma Initiative” symbol somewhere in the movie, maybe on the Enterprise!
or of Kirk’s favorite band is Driveshaft.
Guys, Anthony already stated near the beginning of the thread that it is not Kirk who screams woo-hoo… man.
And I think I saw a flux-capacitor attached to the E’s right nacelle…
There’s something special about Star Trek that keeps it young. And, let’s face it — the use of the idiom of the day it was made is natural in any movie. Movies set in the Elizabethan era — Shakespeare’s day — would be impenetrable if the actual language of that age were used. Contemporary speech patterns, however, didn’t stop the various Elizabeth movies, not to mention Shakespeare in Love, from garnering loads of respect, and ticket sales.
If “woohoo” in a 23d Century setting bothers you, consider it an approximation.
If, on the other hand, “woohoo” by a Starfleet captain is the issue, then consider that even the gods were young, once.
This, after all, is a movie, not a documentary.
I say again: Woohoo!
I can’t believe that in 30 seconds I’m hooked. As a little boy I always dreamt of Trek being a bigger world then we saw in TOS. Something more epic visually. In 30 seconds I got chills. San Fran. looks like I dreamt it to be. (Okay, maybe I had more flying cars and jetpacks in mind. Though I was little kid.).
As long as this is a fun film that I’ll enjoy watching over and over again then I’ll be happy.
So why is this movie unlike any TOS that’s come before?? Becasue this isn’t 1966 anymore.
And why is it not like TMP thru TUC?? That’s right, it ain’t 1979 thru 1991.
This is an updated 2009 production. If you don’t like that curl up in your bed with Gunsmoke and The Andy Griffith Show and curse todays generation for being different than your own.
But remember one thing: the “burden” of youth. Wether it be 1966, 2009 or the 2250s being young and gaining experience isn’t easy. Even the best of the best in real life have real life problems. Let Kirk struggle and discover his own best destiny and learn from his mistakes. Can’t we all learn from our mistakes? And personal growth is rewarding both in real life and on screen. Let Kirk be imperfect, because this ain’t Leave it to Beaver anymore gosh golly gee-whiz.
391. KingOfAllBlacks – February 1, 2009
We made it for both.
Regarding “Buckle Up” and “Woo-hoo” and silly lines that probably will have no context in future earth. TOS episode Gamesters of Triskelion Kirk says:
“Mind the store Mr. Spock.”
Yeah, why would it be okay for him to use that saying, but not Buckle up.
And yes that was the episode with the three jelly brains. LMAO!
If Kirk is aware of old saying from the 1960 then he sure as h3ll would be aware of sayings from the 2000s.
If I were 21 and jumping out of an orbital shuttle I’d be shouting woo-hoo-hoo as loud as the comline will handle. I don’t get how people aren’t understanding Kirk hasn’t yet grown into the Captain we know him yet. Simple stuff really.
Only thing that bothered me at all was the Star Wars phaser pulse. That’s pushing it.
Mr. Bob! Only 3 more months until the birth of your baby…
Just aired!!!
Just saw it on The Superbowl, AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just saw the commercial, and it looks awesome. It gives you just enough to want to see more of it. i would’ve liked to have seen more, but it was pretty good. I gave it a “B” on the poll.
WOW!!! Fabulous JJ and crew!!
Yes: 7:12pm EST – and it’s amazing that Paramount evidently feels so strongly about this movie that they would shell out $3M for a 30-second spot. But they did. And it was good. And IT WILL BE good. Now, let’s find out just how many people around the world “noticed” the spot …. (?)
#402 “San Fran. looks like I dreamt it to be”
Agreed. In my opinion, San Francisco in this trailer is realistic and believable. Futuristic. A lot of skycrapers. Sort of overcrowded. In other movies, SF was too bland and too similar to our own. This is the future, let’s imagine it as a wild mind would do.
Just aired!
They put it on when they had DTV transition information taking up half the screen in ABQ. GRRRR ARGGH!
Other than that, awesome.
403. Admiral_BlackCat
I love The Andy Griffith Show and I am definitely looking forward to this movie.
#205, #217
I may not articulate my opinion so eloquently as “C. S. Lewis”, but as a father of five, can say I am in agreement with his assessment of modern youth, the adults they are becoming, and the entertainment targeted for them.
In any case, I will certainly be in the seats for the first midnight showing of this hotly-anticipated movie. As a fan of “Lost”, I am hoping J. J. and friends have delivered us an experience with characters and story worthy of the stamp “Star Trek”. If not… the franchise may be lost for the core fans who have supported it, as much as society may be lost for those who have built it.
Three more months!
i just saw the commercial. it looks so good!
>>Speculate all you want!!! Those of you who are so grounded in the trek lore that is all about previous episodes and what has been said in movies have a lot to learn about what Gene’s vision for the future really is… It’s about the evolution of the human race to become better than it is NOW… and that requires change to the extent that we think of things in a different way; accept new things; be proactive about our future; stop looking at the past as the grounds for what must be. Trek is an evolution – based in reality, but meant as a vision of the future that changes with each generation. For anyone who has nit-pics with this or that in the clips we’ve seen… just remember, it’s the vision that counts!!! Not the tit-for-tat nonsense that some of you display in your comments about a “movei”, but for an ultimate outcome that gives people hope for a civilization that is better than we have now and that leads us into the future !!!<<
This trailer had very little to do with the human condition and a lot to do with bad action movies.
If I jumped out if an orbital shuttle I’d probably yell some obscenities and maybe a woohoo.
Then I’d ’shart’ my pants.
#419, yeah it’s a trailer.
>>So why is this movie unlike any TOS that’s come before?? Becasue this isn’t 1966 anymore.
And why is it not like TMP thru TUC?? That’s right, it ain’t 1979 thru 1991.
This is an updated 2009 production. If you don’t like that curl up in your bed with Gunsmoke and The Andy Griffith Show and curse todays generation for being different than your own.
But remember one thing: the “burden” of youth. Wether it be 1966, 2009 or the 2250s being young and gaining experience isn’t easy. Even the best of the best in real life have real life problems. Let Kirk struggle and discover his own best destiny and learn from his mistakes. Can’t we all learn from our mistakes? And personal growth is rewarding both in real life and on screen. Let Kirk be imperfect, because this ain’t Leave it to Beaver anymore gosh golly gee-whiz.<<
Yeah, it’s a generational thing. And this generation sucks when it comes to Star Trek. It’s OK, it’s better in some other things (not too many).
#-403
I Agree 100% with everything you said.
It’s up on http://www.startrekmovie.com/ now!
375. – Yep.. I hope you’re wrong
yeah yeah.. see ALL of you at the Trek movie 4 or 5 times… ;)
You can barely tell that it’s not Nimoy!
It looked pretty much the same as the others, but when I saw how “REAL” San Fran looked, I was thinking..wow, this is a whole other production universe for ST.
RAMA
I think I’m going to need a valium before going to see this!
I have chosen to treat this film as separate from the Star Trek I love, separte timeline and universe, this way I can accept the changes JJ Abrams has made my favourite show.
Now I will admit that the trailer is looking great and that this will hopefully revive Trek. I just hope that JJ Abrams has not dumbed Trek down like Hollywood does with all mainstream films.
I don’t hold JJ Abrams in the same light as most others. Lost is a pointless show which lost me after 10 episodes and Fringe is an X Files wannabe. Some people seem to think this film will be great just because Rick Berman is not involved and because everyone is love with JJ Abrams. Am i the only one who thinks JJ Abrams is overrated?
To me the proof is in the pudding. I will hope to love this film but I am annoyed that this wont feel like the Trek I loved. I am all for updating a few things to fit with times but I like it to feel the same still. This does not feel like the Trek I grew up with.
I hope I am wrong and that it represents Roddenberry’s ideals. I dont think it will be the best Trek film but I think it will be better than Nemesis.
Trailer is now online officially. I am going to close thse comments
go to new article:
http://trekmovie.com/2009/02/01/star-trek-super-bowl-commercial-officially-online-trekmovie-shot-by-shot-analysis