Rumor Control: Chris Pine is NOT Posting Star Trek Sequel Spoilers On Facebook + UPDATE – Orci: Script Not Finished Yet March 24, 2011
by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Celebrity,Rumor,Star Trek Into Darkness , trackback
Time to debunk another rumor started by another fake social networking page. This time it is report from a fake Chris Pine page on Facebook providing a Star Trek sequel "spoiler". More details below.
Chris Pine NOT posting Star Trek sequel spoilers on Facebook
A post from February from a purported Chris Pine on Facebook claimed the actor had been sent a draft Star Trek sequel script and the page went on to reveal that Kirk had a "love interest" and it was "all looking very exciting". The six week old post was picked up this week by TrekWeb and has since been reported by a number of other sites including MTV, Blastr and more….all believing it to be true. While it would be no shock for Captain Kirk to have a love interest in the 2012 Star Trek film, this is another case of a false rumor.
TrekMovie has confirmed with Chris Pine’s publicist that the Facebook page in question is not genuine and that Pine has no official Facebook page, Twitter account or website. There are a number of Facebook ‘fan pages’ but those clearly identify themselves as such, as does Chris-Pine.org, a popular fan site. Unlike his fellow Star Trek stars like Zachary Quinto, Zoe Saldana and Simon Pegg, Pine seems to be happy living life off the grid of celebrity social networking.
TrekMovie has also confirmed that the actors have not been sent any Star Trek sequel script drafts, which should have been evidenced by Simon Pegg’s Paul media tour over the last couple of weeks where the actor consistently stated he had not seen a script. And if you remember, just last week Pegg said he and Chris Pine had failed to squeeze any Star Trek sequel spoilers from producer Brian Burk.
More love for James T. Kirk in Star Trek sequel?
- probably but for now it is just a rumor
UPDATE: Script not finished yet
Many of the sites reporting this false rumor have also taken it as confirming that the Star Trek sequel script is finished. However, according to co-writer Roberto Orci, it isn’t ready just yet. If you look down into the comments, Orci (and yes it is really Bob Orci), posted the following comment:
boborci: Wish it was true that he had read a great script se we wouldn’t have to finish it!
We will be keeping a close eye on developments in that area, so stay tuned to TrekMovie for all updates regarding the Star Trek sequel.
UPDATE 2: Fake Chris Pine Page Removed
It is kind of ironic that just two weeks ago Facebook disabled William Shatner’s actual official Facebook page without warning (believing it to be fake), while an actual fake Chris Pine page was still there spreading false rumors to thousands of ‘friends’ who believe it is genuine. Chris Pine’s publicist tells TrekMovie they notified Facebook about the hoaxer, and not long after that Facebook removed the page.
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All part of the theater of pre-Star Trek film rumor-mongering.
Hopefully, we’ll get some real facts soon. Even one would be nice.
Thank you for posting this. I talked to Chris last summer about social networking and he said he will never be into it so I was completely aware that that article was false.
Well. At least we here at Trek Movie are smarter then that and won’t believe it unless we read about it here on Trek movie. Hey. We get news from the source Bob Orci all the time. But a Love interest for Kirk. That is not news. That is just Kirk being Kirk.
A big clue on the Fake Pine Page (FPP??) should have been when Fake Pine mentioned that Kirks love interest was going to be….a goat…
I saw this supposed Pine quote and was going to ask about it. Is there no place for a little truth and honesty? Why do people out there in internet-lala-land think it is OK to lie about what somebody has said or not said and to spread false rumours, bs and lies? I guess they think they are being *clever*, making fun of fans of actors and/or their movies.
Is it any wonder there seems to be so much cynicism around? I think that we, as a culture, have lost the plot somewhat, when it comes to understanding what truthfulness is, how to tell it and how we actually need it. Imposters and newspeak rule. Who and what is anybody supposed to believe?
Yes, why hasn’t Facebook owners got rid of the fake Chris Pine facebook page? They should be able to identify who is legitimate and who is not. Not good enough. I am peeved and angry. The real Chris Pine, as in the actor who played FICTIONAL characters James T Kirk, Brian, Danny, Jake and others, still apparently does not do social networking. Wise man.
@5.
Anonymity causes people to try and do things because they think they can get away with it. I seem to recall reading somewhere that polls that ask if you could kill, rape, steal or whatever, without consequence, there is a consistant response back that some people will. Sadly, all the internet seems to do is amplify that mentality. All one needs to do is look at the message boards here when a touchy subject is posted. I doubt that if you put these people in a room with instructions to speak to each other as they do on line that you would get the same level of vitriol. After all, the practice of morals isn’t how you behave when others are watching, its how one behaves when they are alone.
Wish it was true that he had read a great script se we wouldn’t have to finish it!
@7.
Hows this ….”The End”?
Please just tell me that the script is done, everyone loves this, and that JJ is directing.
I can say that I was officially duped but that was because I am ignorant to that of Facebook or that of Chris Pine’s personal life.
Only people who really stan Pine could have picked it up that it was a false rumor.
On the brighter side, this would have been all the more amazing had it happened on April 1st :)
I saw this article on another site and knew it wasn’t true. Chris Pine has stated he has no interest in social networking.
TrekMovie is my go-to site for Trek news, especially about the sequel. If I read it here, I will believe it. Thanks Anthony for posting this. Maybe other sites should confirm the info before reporting it.
This must explain why Anthony “Liked” two Chris Pine Facebook pages in the last couple of days.
I was wondering what that was all about.
BTW, you should put a profile pic up, dude.
If it don’t come from Trekmovie, I don’t trust it!
RE: Liking the various Chris Pines, yes i was doing some sniffing around. I dont really use FB much at all, only have an account so i can check out things once and a while but i will update it and TrekMovie is going to create a FB fan page.
So far we have focused on twitter and we have a good following there with around 15K followers or so.
by the way, got an email from Pine’s publicist saying they will get FB to take down the fake Pine. Hopefully the faker gets prosecuted under the new CA law on fakers, but I assume that would only apply to those living in CA.
But in general, FB is not good at celeb identifying. Twitter is much much better.
So yes, when you see a bunch of sites jump on a Trek rumor and it isnt reported here quickly, you can assume we are trying to confirm it and until then hold your hat
#14
I know. I keep inviting you to my shows and never see you there. My little heart keeps breaking. *sniff”
FB is full of these “unoffical” pages. In the early days it was easy to find some actual stars of shows and friend them up and some that you thought were the real deal only to discover through some investigating that they were:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKcJF4fOPs
I also heard that Youtube, Twitter and Facebook were planning on a big merger for their sites in order to share content.
They plan on renaming it YouTwitFace.
Why don’t you use Facebook Anthony :( I thought you would like to update fans on the latest thanks for clearing up this silly rumour and Kirk having a love interest oh come on that isn’t news
Let get’s back to the speculation . . .
Memory Alpha states Bob Orci has been looking to draw a bit of inspiration for the ST sequel from Arthur Clarke’s works?
If it’s true that’s really nice to know!
Let’s not forget Isaac Asimov because was a supporter of Star Trek and a long time friend of Roddenberry. Data’s ‘positronic’ brain concept was derived from Asimov.
In terms of storytelling I don’t think anything beats his Foundation series. A lot of good ideas there!
#18
I always thought that the whale probe and Rama bore a resemblence to each other. I always wished that our characters in the movie would have been able to go inside the probe and discovered that an alien civilization was sending it to pick up passengers.
As long as Tom Hanks is in it i care not!
I tell you who would also make a great Commodore Decker apart from Hanks although he’s probably too old to do it now (and would probably be far too expensive to sign on) – Jack Nicholson.
Heck I wish that chris pine was giving off some spoilers! Its more then we have heard in a year. Im feeining for some teasers
Yes I was waiting for this… thanks for clearing this matter, Anthony Pascale!
:-) :-)
Some truth/clarity here –
Is it true that the actors associated with this Star Trek sequel have a contractual obligation not to reveal anything they may know about the script, even it is only about their own character? Of course, if they haven’t seen anything, they can’t say anything.
I believe this was the situation with Star Trek 09. Bruce Greenwood talked about only being able to read his part of the script in a room with security people outside. The same sort of thing happened with the other actors as well. If there was any “leaking” done, it would have come from higher up from those who had the authority to “leak” stuff.
No hanks!
#20
I honestly don’t think that any Hollywood production team could ever reconstruct the shear enormity of the interior habitat of Raman spacecraft, on-screen. Let alone the Nodes, such as the Tau Ceti Tetrahedron.
If you’ve finished the series with (Rama Revealed) you’d know the true scale that would be required, is way beyond anything a movie could successfully duplicate.
Though, I would’ve liked to see it too.
Facebook has disabled my page also. Like I am a Fake jorDe’.
Many have met me in person and know that i am the Official
la’Hom Ho’neH jorDe’ vestai-VamPyr
yaS wa’DIch, IKRV Hurgh HaP, Ring of Fire Fleet
Order of the Bat’Leth
Hanks for that.
No Hanks is good news.
I like Hanks.
Just not in Trek.
@25
How cool would it be to be able to see the sheer scale of the Raman vessels lain out in the manufactoring areas.
That is true epic scale.
Hopefully this kind of scale can be reproduced in the next Trek.
The scenes of the E warping out into the debris field (R2D2 included – yuck!) was a great piece of epic effect/cinematography. This kind of scale must be repeated!!!
I kinda believed the quote from the fake facebook page. I thought that perhaps Chris Pine (you know, the real one) had changed his mind and had decided to start his own Facebook page. The quote just seemed like something he might say or write. It even used an expression that I quite often use on Chris Pine Just Jared site – “Take care”. I know it is not an uncommon expression, except that I have not read other people using it anywhere else, since coming onto the internet and reading and posting to some of those sites.
I use Keachick on all of them, because that is who I am, on the internet. Some may also recognise my tagline, “A rose for remembrance”, because that is also who I am. As far as I can tell, I have been the most (annoyingly? Bob? hope not, just trying to help…) vociferous about Kirk having a genuine love interest in the next movie and not just a fun fling. Maybe I am taking it all a bit too seriously…I don’t know.
#25 and #28
Actually after I read the series I wondered not only how difficult it would be to film it, I questioned how difficult it would be just to SEE it. The scales of things they talked about seemed difficult for me to visualize. The only scale that I think I am capable of grasping are those presented me on earth as far as I have been able to see from an airplane looking across to the horizon. A manufacturing area that streches on, without the curvature of the earth to stop your eyes might appear invisible to me because I might be able to conceive it. Sort of like the Native Americans when the first sailing ships from Europe arrived on their shores and were invisible to them.
#24
What’s wrong with Tom Hanks? I’m sure he would share some of his choc – o -lets with you… then tell you his life story.
;)
Anyway, isn’t Hanks a big Trekkie anyway?
Oops, didn’t mean to repeat the anyways. Starting to sound like Joe Pesci. Okay, okay.
I still think there should be a cinematic version of Greg Bear’s Eon.
That could be so cool and so epic if in the right hands….: )P
Whats this i hear about Otm Shank?
He’s india’s answer to Brian Dennehy you know
#7 You have six more days to get it finished, OK, seven days since you guys are always behind…sigh. :)
How is that Beagle puppy of Kirk’s coming along? By the time you start shooting the film, the puppy should be just about be weaned. Kirk needs a puppy mascot, (courtesy of Admiral Archer) and to be captain of the Enterprise. He meets that Menosian woman. Baby comes later. No need to rush things. I now have it on good authority that Chris Pine loves dogs, so should be a piece of cake. MAKE IT SO.
Spock could have the other puppy perhaps, but he might prefer a selat for a mascot, in case some might think of him as being a bit “girly” rather than the strong Vulcan type…
@36
Tom Hanks is going to be the Fleet Admiral apparently.
Tom Cruise had other commitments.
Thank goodness the fake Chris Pine facebook page is deleted now :)
I forgot about Bob being at odds with Hanks over conspiracy theories!
Bob are the studio putting any sort of pressure on the producers/writers to have a big name star in the sequel? Say for example for marketing/revenue reasons?
That aside if there was one actor/actress (past or present) you could have in Trek who would you have?
Myself it would have to be Sean Connery – bit random i know!!
24. keachick – March 24, 2011
Yes, a contract can be written with non-disclosure provisions.
40. Just JFK assassination.
No pressure yet.
Best not to believe any rumours these days.
The movie will be what it will be.
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Tom Hanks ia great actor who I would love to see in Trek.
I’d rather have a great actor like Hanks than a movie star like Tom Cruise in the movie.
I am referencing Nick Meyer’s definition of the difference between an actor and a movie star. An actor tries hard to be someone else but a movie star tries hard to make someone else them.
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I would rather they took their time and delivered a strong script with great characters and a stronger plot than rushing it. Quite often these days I watch some tentpole movies and feel that it could have done with another draft ot two.
So I hope the longer writing period means they are delivering something stronger for the next one.
Rumor, falsehood or truth…. it’s designed to get people excited about something. Paramount marketing dept can sit back and let the Facebook/Twitter/IM do all thier work. We all know it is way too early for any “leaks” since nothing is being filmed at this time because Bob Orci has not finished a script to shoot from.
Still rumor is what us ST fans live for……
Bob – can you at least confirm the rumor that the Enterprise will, in fact, have two nacelles again? :-)
45. No promises. It’s a wacky alternate universe! Anything could happen!
Jim, call Carol, its a boy ;)
Ok. Here is a scoop. Chris Pine will play Capt Kirk in the next Star Trek Movie. Also. Simon Pegg will play Scotty. Oh ok. Anton Yelchen will play Checkov. Oh ok. I will admit this. Zoe Saldona will play Uhurah.
Sorry Bob Orci. I hope you will forgive me for releasing this Information.
Here is another Scoop. Zachery Quinto will play Spock in the next Movie!.
I hope Anthony and Bob Orci won’t be to mad at me for giving this Information out.
I heard this great Rumer. A Red Shirt might be killed in the next Trek. Also. I heard this as well. Dr. Mccoy will say. He’s Dead Jim!.
Bob, that’s what I wanted to hear.
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I’m still waiting for street rod flames on the side of a shuttle. :-D
Also. There will be more Lens flares in the next Trek. Just like in Trek 09 as there was lens flares in Star Trek 2 the Wrath of Khan.
Hey! Next time give us a spoiler alert! Now I won’t be surprised when Bones says that.
#53. Oops!. Sorry. Oh. John Cho will play Sulu!.
Hey Bob, just wondering, do you guys have any good luck rituals to mark the start of shooting, any old habits. Just saying, as a priest I could pop around and give the set a blessing, you know? Hint, hint, nudge, nudge, say no more…
Seriously, good luck with the finishing touches; can’t wait!! And thanks for the updates :)
I have had a recurring dream, that i have been directing a star trek film with michael myers. I tell him “he’s not right in the head” he chops my script in half and sulu’s console. Maybe i should stop my homemade romulan ale and cardassian sunrises before bed
#56 NO dont stop, just send the rest of us the recipe for the Romulan Ale, I heard the Cardassian Sunrises has too much fish taste….
Hey, Bob or Anthony, could you please let us know the timeline involved. When does the script HAVE to be done- I know there’s likely to be tweeking even during filming, but what’s the deadline for ‘finishing’? When does casting have to be completed, filming started, etc.
Bob, Ian has a good idea about that blessing that could be worked into a scene’s background audio dialogue, like the shot of R2D2 floating in the fleet’s wreckage:
“Good luck, Mr. Gorsky!” LOL
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/184617_112639362147730_100002050012640_95811_7807307_n.jpg
… just saying.
So, Orci won’t work with Hanks just because he has a different opinion of the JFK assassination?
Oooo… kay…
Seems a bit narrow-minded for someone working on *ahem* Star Trek! But hey, I guess that’s how they roll in Hollyweird.
I honestly agree with the people saying a longer scripting process will make a better movie. I mean look at all the movies the syfy channel comes out with each year. Just about all of them are always poorly done and are crap or uninteresting. Now look at the movies that take a few years to make (Lord of the Rings, Star Trek (all of them), The new batmat movies, Band of Brothers). They were all awesome and very well done. The difference? The crap movies were written in a few weeks. The good ones went through several drafts because the writers actually cared enough to make them as good as they could be. I have no problem waiting until next year or even the year after for the Trek sequel, so long as its as good as 09 was.
61. No, not just different opinion, MAKING A DOPEY SHOW ABOUT IT!
Bob Orci. You are a stand up guy. Glad you are working on Star Trek.
#63
Ah well, that makes all the difference. I’m sure no one on the “Supreme Committee” has never made anything dopey.
Carry on.
My romulan ale is a bottle of WKD blue with a shot of vodka and 2 shots of sambuca and half shot of port. My cardassian sunrise is 2 shots vodka, 2 shots peach snapps and passion fruit juice poured over ice.
Might i add my recipes are 4 21 and over and please drink responsibly
We will Drink just like Kirk did.
Bob – what, specifically, is the point of contention between you and Tom Hanks, vis-a-vis the JFK assassination? The Grassy Knoll Theory, the origin of the marching orders, or………….?
RE: deadlines etc
We have been reporting that the sequel script has been targeted to be finished soon with pre production to start soon after that, and shooting by late summer.
As milestones pass we hope to post updates, like we did with the star trek movie, like greenlight official, shooting starts, shooting stops, etc. Our last ‘milestone’ article was on scripting starting back in October
http://trekmovie.com/2010/10/12/exclusive-scripting-started-for-star-trek-sequel/
all i can say is stay tuned
Anthony. We are all staying tuned with baited breath.
Anthony can’t wait for the updates and why can’t people leave Chris Pine alone he is a human being after all I think there are mentally disturbed people out there faking celebrities etc
I love Orci, but it is now really crunch time for him…come on Bob, get r done.
#69
Rumor is Hanks believes that Lieutenant Dan was the lone gunman.
Bob at least answer this. Are you into Act 3 yet? ; }.
To Mr. Bob Orci
Is Mr. Alex Kurtzman writing the script with you and Mr. Damon Lindelof? … afterall it seems that he finished Welcome to People, right?
:-) :-)
And please if by chance… only by chance… Captain Kirk has a love interest … I only will accept, Evangeline Lilly … tell to Mr. JJAbrams he has to find a way and bring her back!
LOL and +LOL!
Goodness sake it’s in Kirk’s nature to have a love interest this is absolutely nonense I am so glad this is all sorted out
18.
I can picture it now. ‘Star Trek 2: A Space Odyssey to the Final Frontier’. HAL 9000 and the M-5 unit team up in the alternate universe to rain havoc on the Federation. More details to follow…
@72 I think that somebody is having fun at his fans’ expense (and his, in a smaller way) and filling an apparent gap between fans’ expectations of what they want to see and hear from the actor, and the actor’s ability to fulfil those expectations. This has always been a bit of an issue, but it has kicked into high gear since the development of the internet.
Some celebrities/actors chose to make use of this technology but then they start complaining about their privacy being violated. However, when these people put themselves on Twitter or Facebook, they do invite comments and questions and sometimes it does get out of hand. It can be quite a grey area as to how much genuine privacy is violated and what is considered acceptable.
I do think that Chris Pine himself needs to come out and say publicly where he stands on social networking, to reiterate and confirm (or otherwise) what he has said in the past – ie he does not do Facebook or Twitter etc and does not intend to start, if that is indeed his position. Then everyone – fans, journalists, people running various websites know to ignore anything that some “Chris Pine” may have said via twitter, facebook or similar.
Still not done with the script? Not knowing what to name the “deflector dish” seems to have led to some severe writer’s block. Let me help… Try “The Tostitos Deflector Dish” or “The Deflector Dish presented by Capital One”. Now that that’s solved, get back to coming up with super great ideas like random ice cave meetings.
#7boborci – “Wish it was true that he had read a great script so we wouldn’t have to finish it!” LOL
I have to say I love your humour. Hope to hear a little of this humour in the movie…:)
#80 Nah, that was about the writers “throwing us a bone” as in giving us something to chew on, to deliberate on, to postulate, to pontificate about ad nauseum and in the midst of all this, somebody may have written a tiny pearl of wisdom that gives the writers the “answer”, the “key” to whatever it was…
Hope we were able to help, Bob!
BTW, what does it mean when “I keeeeed” or similar is written? Bob Orci and others have written this. And does Scotty get saved after being put out of the airlock, Bob? I think Simon Pegg was being a bit “uppity” at the time. I remember such stuff, you know…:)
Yes, here we are all human being after all ………………. or is there a Klingon, here?
:-) :-)
Chris Pine doesn’t have a Facebook page? Huh, I guess I’m not alone.
I hope that if Kirk does have a love interest in the movie that it ends in tragedy. It’s not because I like to watch misery in others, it’s because it helps define who Kirk is. It’s like when Edith Keeler died, Kirk HAD to stop McCoy from saving her to protect the timeline. He still does his duty, completes the mission, at the sacrifice of his happiness. Powerful stuff.
Boborci , last update i read about the script was all the writers were moving into a hotel room to try and finish it up , the important question i need to know is who assumed control of the T.V remote ?
@79 “I do think that Chris Pine himself needs to come out and say publicly where he stands on social networking.”
Congrats to Pine for just saying no to Facebook. My advice to Pine is to not say one thing at all to the public about his stand on social networking. He is saving us from the ridiculous self-aggrandizing tweets we recently saw over Jolene Blalock’s birthday…that kind of stuff is lame.
@80. “Still not done with the script?”
Seriously folks, if we don’t hear something about the script being approved and movie green-lighted by 15 April, then you can kiss a July 2012 release date goodbye.
I hate to say it, but I suspect that the initial draft of the script has already been submitted, rejected by the studio, and sent back to writing team for fixing…hopefully not major reworking.
So I predict within 3 weeks that we will know whether we are a go or no-go for July 2012.
I, personally, know how long it takes to crank out even a first-draft screenplay.
Believe me, it usually takes about a year for one person to write it. Two people maybe in 5-6 months, if competent.
For Orci and Kurtzman to spit out a script in 3-4 months of collaborative effort, with everything else on their plate, is pretty impressive!
Well, we heard last August about the script being done by Christmas…then more recently we heard 30 March. So by my count, we are at eight months and counting for a 3-person team.
88.
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Have you heard from Bob about your script? I really hope someone in Hollywood takes a chance on it!
89.
See, Harlan was needed after all! The team needed his spark and ideas to keep things moving along. And, of course, if we’re talking time, we nned to go back to the original script deadline of X-mas 2009. By that standard, the script is 15 months overdue! But…we love our Bob! : )
#89 – “So by my count, we are at eight months and counting…”
Well, they do say it takes usually nine months before a brand new baby is ready to be born, or rather, a script be delivered, then wrapped all safe and sound in its little cuddly rug… Hang in there, Bob, Alex and Damon. Take good deep breaths! Imagine that, a Starfleet cuddly rug. How awesome is that.
“I hope that if Kirk does have a love interest in the movie that it ends in tragedy. It’s not because I like to watch misery in others, it’s because it helps define who Kirk is. It’s like when Edith Keeler died, Kirk HAD to stop McCoy from saving her to protect the timeline. He still does his duty, completes the mission, at the sacrifice of his happiness. Powerful stuff.”
Oh God, please, NO. Seriously. Been there, done that so very often. No more, no more. If you want to watch Kirk sacrifice his happiness, lose the love(s) of his life, be let down and heart-broken by Carol Marcus -
there are many episodes and movies where you can now watch those losses in the new and improved Blu-ray or whatever versions.
I don’t have facebook either and have no reason to want to have it. When I read that Chris Pine apparently had a facebook page (thought he had changed his mind about social networking), I thought perhaps I might join facebook to make contact of sorts, but it’s all a hoax, a lie. I want no part of this bs. My reference to Chris making a public statement is in order to clear up any misunderstandings etc among those who are not trekkies. He did have a small fanbase before Star Trek and I can see why too.
I don’t mind the tweets etc. It is a personal choice issue.
82.
” I keeed!” is how triumph the insult comic dog says, “I kid” as in ” I’m kidding.”
69. Hanks is developing Vinvcent Bugliosi’s book Reclaiming History. You can find summaries online.
Bob, please stop posting here and get back to finishing the script.
(just kidding)
(well, maybe not)
LOL
Bob
Just write the best script possible for Star Trek XII.
All I ask for is something cool and is unique to the universe of Star Trek (Regardless of which universe).
How long does it take you to write a script? What is the average turnaround for you and Alex?
@bob:
Short question about Hanks: Is there for real something that would exclude Tom Hanks from being in the trek sequel? Since I heard, he nearly was in First Contact I am longing for the day to see him in a Star Trek movie…
greetings from germany,
Stephan
PS: I like the post about having great actors and not just movie stars in the sequel…
Can we have William Shatner as Kirk one more time please.
If Connery ever asked to be Bond again it would be done, please do this for the man who gave Star Trek its history.
Thanks
I’m still waiting on pins and needles for ANY info on PIKE(Bruce Greenwood). I REALLY REALLY want to see him in the sequel.
Like everyone else, I’ll just have to keep on waiting!
*side-eyes orci*
If he were actually writing the script instead of hanging out here, he might be finished….
:)
It is nice that he spends some free moments interacting with fans, but I just hope he has the good taste to ignore drivel and pop culture of-the-moment trends for true longevity when it comes to this project.
I’m a huge fan of movies, and it’s disappointing to see so many of them these days, come off an assembly-line of products composed of check-marked “what’s cool right now” parts, but no soul.
It seems that we’ve lost a bit of the magic in the tidal wave of so many choices.
If there’s anything I really want to see happen with Trek (despite being a reboot of popular “brand”) it’s that it doesn’t lean on those easy trends, because they almost always age badly.
Just please get back to the basics of writing an awesome story, developing the characters, and give them a fantastic challenge.
Skip any rock/hip-hop music, any references to present time, bad one-liners, obvious product placement, and shoehorned “fan-service”, please.
Don’t try to “make it cool” write a great story and it will be. :)
“Skip any rock/hip-hop music, any references to present time, bad one-liners, obvious product placement, and shoehorned “fan-service”, please.”
I second the motion..
boborci never pays attention to me…. ahhhh! … hurt!…. :-) :-)
How about Lieutenant Daniels (time traveler) from Star Trek Enterprise coming back to fix the time line the Romulans changed?
@ 46. boborci
Is Chekov gay yet?
#104
Ya’ mean Sulu…..
Don’t ya’ ?
- W -
* Winks & Nods *
John Cho as a gay Sulu would be great actually! But, personally, I‘d rather see Chekov as the brainy ensign who just happens to be gay – or maybe BOTH he and Sulu and they could get together like Spock and Uhura!
106.
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That’s one of the dumbest ideas I’ve ever heard. That’s saying a lot about a site on which I read a lot of dumb posts already!
#100
I wholeheartedly agree with the suggestions you listed, but I’m afraid with this creative team it may be a moot point. Look at their track record. Trendiness abounds.
Still, there’s hope.
@107.
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The comment was made half in jest, but what’s “dumb” about it? Sulu & Chekov together? I wouldn’t have a problem with it. Certainly no “dumber” than Spock & Uhura together.
100–It will be interesting to see how Star Trek (2009) holds up after say 20 years. Will it still have the mass appeal like Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, or will people be saying ” that was sooooo early 2000′s.” It’s hard to judge because people are so fickle anymore when it comes to newer movies. Here today, gone tomorrow. (That is on reason the Abrams team should try as hard as possible to stick to next year’s release date–when it comes to movies, people almost have ADHD–they may completely forget the last movie ever happened if they wait much longer).
script’s still not done? our friendly summer 2012 neighbor Batman is already getting buzz going with casting news!
no pressure señor orci et al. :D
@103 how bout Lt. Daniels from The Wire? our Supreme Court has already worked with Lance Reddick on Fringe.
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Sorry, I thought you were being serious. But I’m still against the idea of Chekov and/or Sulu being gay because in “The Original Series” there was no evidence that either were interested in each other or other men. Plus Chekov flirted with some pretty young ladies in a couple of episodes and Sulu, for the most part, seemed asexual.
Now, if they were to create an entirely new character who was gay, then I’d go for that, since the writers wouldn’t be treading on canon. Plus, it would be the last glass ceiling for Trek to break.
The Spock/Uhura thing made sense last time, but I hope they let it go. I want to see Spock struggling to reconcile his human and Vulcan halves.
110. Damian
Since when does TWOK have “mass appeal”?
98. David B
You think an 80 year old Captain Kirk and 81 year old James Bond is a great idea. You’re kidding, right? That scenario would doubtless make both films a huge hit in nursing homes, but the rest of the audience might be left ROFL.
@115. AT, as much as it pains me, I have to agree with you completely on this one. :-)
@109 “The comment was made half in jest, but what’s “dumb” about it? Sulu & Chekov together? I wouldn’t have a problem with it. Certainly no “dumber” than Spock & Uhura together.”
Yea, it is a lot dumber that that since TOS showed instances of all these characters being interested in the opposite sex, not their own sex. So it completely violates implied cannon, irrespective of any viewers political objectives of wanting to see some gay characters in Trek. BTW, I have no problem with them introducing new characters as gay…heck, why not make Pike gay in the next movie…it could be handled with a simple quick reference.
109
Well in the prime universe Chekov had an ex girlfriend who appeared in The Way to Eden and Sulu had a daughter called Demora who appeared in Generations.
#112 It was Matt Winston who played Daniels in Enterprise
@117
@118
Mmm. What does TOS have to do with this New Alternate Universe? I thought that was one of the main reasons for the Reboot. Now anything’s possible. Certainly, this Spock is not quite like the old Spock. Technically, there’s really no good reason why either of them couldn’t be gay – though I think Chekov’s the better choice. Also – and this has been pointed out before – showing interest in the opposite sex and/or having a child doesn’t preclude one from being gay.
I just want this Star Trek to be straight ham and cheese…:)
121.
Which would be what, William Shatner in a starring role?
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I don’t think Nero’s incursion would create an alternate universe where Sulu’s and Chekov’s sexuality changes, that was all I am saying.
If they are going to go on with the Spock/Uhura relationship (a plot point I was not keen on) then perhaps it could be interesting if Ponn Farr was brought up.
@ 93 Bob Orci
Bob, good to see you again… er read your comments. So you like Triumph the Insult Comic Dog. Better write a masterpiece or we’ll hear the dog say the new Star Trek movie is “for me to poop on.” I keeed. Oh by the way, could we have Scotty transwarp Triumph too?
Hey, Trekkers check out Triumph’s attack on Star Wars fans waiting for “Attack of the Clones.” It’s linked at the bottom of Triumph’s Wiki page. (Wiki page below.) And wait until till you get the ten minute mark. There’s angry Spock. Hey, that’s where they got the angry Spock idea! :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph,_the_Insult_Comic_Dog
#122-
LOL … and … +LOL ……………………….just… LOL!
:-) :-)
Dee
I’m flattered that you get my humor!
116. MJ
It pains you to agree with me? Or it pains you to contemplate Kirk and Bond as 80-somethings? : D
I’m talking about alt. universe “straight ham and cheese” as only an alt. James (CP) Kirk could do it. Chris Pine is a very capable actor…
# Anthony Pascale – “but i will update it and TrekMovie is going to create a FB fan page.
So far we have focused on twitter and we have a good following there with around 15K followers or so.”
This thread went OT about Facebook and how it can be abused by people a while back now, I am just wondering what you believe creating a facebook page for trekmovie.com would provide for people that this site does not already do.
I am personally very happy with this site so far and I am glad that I found it.
@120 “Mmm. What does TOS have to do with this New Alternate Universe? I thought that was one of the main reasons for the Reboot. Now anything’s possible. Certainly, this Spock is not quite like the old Spock. Technically, there’s really no good reason why either of them couldn’t be gay.”
But I thought the latest thinking was that there is a genetic predisposition to be gay? If that is the case, then since the Prime and Alternate universes have exact genetic equivalents of the main characters, then their genetic predisposition would be the same as well. When you add their behavior in TOS episodes as being attracted to the opposite sex into the equation, then there you have it…I could not buy a gay Chekov or Sulu in the alternate universe. Sure, you could argue that they could be bisexual, but do we really want to deal with that in the new movie.
I say make Pike gay in the new movie. He is a defacto main character in the alternate universe, but doesn’t have the canon or past baggage concerning a controversial move to change his perceived behavior.
Apparently genetic make up of the abrams crew is not the one the tos characters had. If it was, Spock would never have an affair with Nuhura, because as a vulcan he would neither have a sex drive before first Pon Farr nor be cheating on his wife – who he happens to have mind link with since he was 7, nor would he look or act like a complete human, or enter Pon Farr until much later.
@ 129:
“But I thought the latest thinking was that there is a genetic predisposition to be gay? If that is the case, then since the Prime and Alternate universes have exact genetic equivalents of the main characters, then their genetic predisposition would be the same as well.”
But Sulu, Uhura and Chekov were all born after Nero disrupted the timeline. AOS Chekov, if I’m not mistaken, was even born in a different year than his TOS counterpart. So, via the butterfly effect, there’s a chance that their genetic makeup is different from their TOS versions. Think of siblings within a family: except for identical twins, every child of a set of parents carries a slightly different combination of their parents’ genes.
And of course, there are many families where one sibling is gay and another sibling is straight, even though they both came from the same set of parents.
So even factoring in the genetic argument, it really doesn’t strain credulity at all to suggest that TOS Chekov was straight and AOS Chekov is gay. (The same could theoretically apply to Sulu or Uhura as well, although Uhura’s attraction to Spock clearly renders her either straight or bi.)
Speaking of bisexuality, it’s not impossible that TOS Sulu and TOS Chekov were attracted to men *and* women. Just saying. Sexuality isn’t always strictly either/or.
#126 – Harry Ballz
Yes ………………. always!
Some questions:
Do you think that boborci likes your sense of humor? answers your questions ?….:… and finally… do you believe in boborci?
Of course… you need not answer anything if you do not want… After all, boborci never answer me, too! … LOL and +LOL!
:-) :-)
132. Dee!
Not ignoring you;)
@131 “But Sulu, Uhura and Chekov were all born after Nero disrupted the timeline. AOS Chekov, if I’m not mistaken, was even born in a different year than his TOS counterpart. So, via the butterfly effect, there’s a chance that their genetic makeup is different from their TOS versions. Think of siblings within a family: except for identical twins, every child of a set of parents carries a slightly different combination of their parents’ genes.”
This is a bit far-fetched. I will admit it is is possible. But probable, and something that would need to be explained in detail in the next movie…no, I don’t think that would be credible. If you carry your argument furhter, then the chances of the parents naming their children with the same names diminishes as well. If this is the best argument for having Sulu and Chekov be gay, I am not buying it.
Again, why not make Pike gay, so we get a defacto gay main character, and the issue will be done with in Trek?
@130 “Spock would nevery have an affair with Nuhura, because as a Vulcan…”
But he’s half human. Whoops!!! :-)
Hey Bob,
do you have an answer to my question posted above? ;-)
Stephan
@ 134:
” If you carry your argument furhter, then the chances of the parents naming their children with the same names diminishes as well.”
But it’s canon that TOS Chekov and AOS Chekov were born in different years. I don’t think it’s strange for his parents to have named him the same thing in both timelines; names often have family or sentimental significance. My sister would have been named after her grandmother whether she had been born in 1989 or 1992, for example.
On the other hand, it would be VERY strange for Chekov’s genes to be exactly the same despite him having been conceived in different years. Forgive me for getting gross and technical, but it would not even be the same sperm cell hitting the same egg cell.
I understand your argument that it might be kind of laborious to try to explain this in a movie. I think it would be more Trekkishly groundbreaking to have it a member of the core cast, but I do like your suggestion of Pike. I just don’t think the genetic argument is airtight.
@137. I guess I could buy Chekov being gay based on your reasoning here, but I think having Pike being gay is simpler to handle and would be less troublesome to some of the fanbase.
I don’t think that we are that far apart though on this.
136. I jeered Tom Hanks.
Obviously, if he wanted to be in the movie, we would all be open to it. He is wonderful. However, he would have to suffer through me calling him a naive idiot for the whole shoot;)
Damn auto correct!
Meant to say
I KEEEED TOM HANKS!
Maybe Hanks is working on his script right now to get it in ON TIME instead of spending time posting on internet boards?
(just kidding!) LOL
#133 – boborci
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!! ………. I died now! …… I deserved it! …. LOL
Ok, Tom Hanks…. but I prefer Viggo Mortensen as a villain…. the problem is that he prefers… Snow White…. Superman or…. whatever… someone should tell him that STAR TREK IS BETTER!!!!! LOL and +LOL!!!
:-) :-)
To me, Vinvcent Bugliosi’s “Reclaiming History” is the definitive story of the Kennedy assassination, and having Tom Hank’s, perhaps the best movie producer around dealing with 20th Century history, at the helm ensures to me that this will be an epic movie event that will portray the non-conspiracy side of the story to the public.
The conspiracy buffs already had their epic movie event on the Kennedy assassination completed — “JFK” done Stone/Kostner — so what are they afraid of in having a movie made of Bugliosi’s work? If they don’t like this move, too bad!!!
133.
Dee, I DO believe in Bob Orci and would like to think he gets my humour.
144.
Nonsense. There is plenty of evidence to illustrate that Kennedy was killed by his own government. Bugliosi ignored a lot of information in order for his “myopic” point of view to be considered at all. He is dead wrong about who killed Kennedy. I wish people would do SOME research before subscribing to one misguided opinion. I have spent no less than 20,000 hours (over 40 years) investigating the JFK assassination and know for a FACT that he was killed due to a conspiracy.
@144. Harry, you are entitled to your opinion, and you are certainly entitled to BELIEVE it is factual.
I will not be budging on my contrary opinion though. And I look forward to Hanks counter-movie to the made-up nonsense that was the Stone/Costner JFK movie. Ref: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jfkmovie.htm
wanna fact about the movie? they waited till last minute so they could work on other projects.
@bob:
As far as I know, Tom Hanks is a big Trek fan. Maybe you should just ask him if he wants a role? But you should wait unit he signs before starting mocking him. ;-)
Honestly, I could imagine Hanks playing a 3-dimensional missunderstood villain. And he pulls german people into the cinema… ;-)
Stephan
146.
MJ, I know we’re all busy these days, but I would suggest three books on the subject. Conspiracy, Crossfire and the newest one, JFK And The Unspeakable. If you don’t have time for all three, simply read that last one. I would love to hear your opinion after finishing it.
@149. Thanks Harry, I’ll try to read JFK and the Unspeakable soon.
A reminder that spoofing, sockpuppeting and posting under multiple names are instaban offenses – along with all violating posts being deleted. (plus all posts from others commenting on the violating posts).
So in the end – why do it as it all gets washed away and you can never post again
MJ
I appreciate your open-mindedness in being able to study an opposing opinion.
One more idea, if Mr. Orci is still following this thread…
One big win I noticed in Firefly, was an episode in which someone asked if Mal was interested in boys and he didn’t act like someone had just dumped toxic waste on him (Heart of Gold for those keeping count on the nerdpoints).
It was awesome because it is just so sadly rare that any media handles even a reference or a possibility of being gay as neither note- nor joke-worthy.
So, if you do make reference to some other sexual preference, it would awesome if the crew wasn’t fazed by it (they should be trained not to be, as I’m sure there all kinds of funky sexualities on other planets), even if you don’t make any new characters LGBT themselves.
#151 – Anthony Pascale
With this remark … then I conclude that it was not the real person… well… I’m relieved!
:-):-)
@154. Dee, I missed all the excitement — who was posting what with multiple identities?
#155 – MJ
I do not know who he was … I was surprised by a comment attributed to boborci … I doubted that was the real boborci … and I commented about it … my comment and those of others have been deleted … and as Anthony Pascale is making that comment I would imagine that something was wrong … and I can only speak for myself … I did nothing wrong for sure… LOL
:-):-)
@156. Thanks Dee for the info. Interesting and disturbing, although this is not the first time that Anthony has had to step in when somebody tried to impersonate Bob. Impersonating Bob seems to represent a thrill ride on the boards for some goofball every so often.
just to be clear, posts commenting on those that have been deleted also get deleted. This is no mark against the poster, it is just the cascade effect. Once you kill the the source you also kill the ripple effect
Ironically, even after the source was killed, the ripple effect still continues!
@159 LOL. Like the Nexus, right?
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Yes, exactly right, MJ! Although there’s been no evidence of Shatner here, so far!
The fake facebook may have closed, but google Chris Pine and you will find articles still quoting the fake quote by Chris Pine and stating it as what the real Chris Pine actually said. What to do…