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Exclusive: Robert Duncan McNeill On How He Would Improve Star Trek Voyager + Chuck Renewal Chances + More May 3, 2011

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Since his seven seasons on Star Trek: Voyager wrapped up a decade ago, Robert Duncan McNeill has transitioned to TV directing and producing. In an exclusive FedCon interview with TrekMovie.com, Robbie explains how he would have done things differently on Voyager, and gives an update on the chances of his new show Chuck getting another season.

 

TrekMovie exclusive interview: Robert Duncan McNeill talks Voyager Chuck

TrekMovie: How are you finding FedCon?

Robert Duncan McNeill: It’s great! I was here, I think, twice before. It’s been a while. I always enjoy coming to the conventions. I haven’t been to many conventions lately. I kind of transitioned from acting to directing and producing, and so that’s what I’ve been doing.

TM: You started directing in Voyager; you directed twelve episodes. What was the motivation for you to do that transition?

RDM: If I think back to even when I was in high school, I wanted to be an actor but I was also very entrepreneurial. I started some acting classes where I was a teacher of kids, and I felt like they should have performances. So, I found a local bank that had an auditorium, and I had them give it to us for the kids to perform. So, I was directing and producing these little acting classes and plays for the kids. I guess I was always kind of entrepreneurial even though I wanted to be an actor. Once I was successful as an actor and was working, I got a little bored, got a little itchy. So, I started following other directors and learning about it.

TM: Was this during Voyager?

RDM: This was before Voyager. I was doing a show called Going to Extremes, and we shot it in Jamaica. So, I lived in Jamaica for nine months or so. Most of the other cast were single; I was married at the time, I already had a two-year-old. So, they were out partying and doing what you do in Jamaica. And, I wasn’t really doing much of that! So, I thought instead I would use my time to watch the directors there. That was in about ’92. That was the beginning of watching directors and learning about it, and then Star Trek Voyager started in ’94.

Robert Duncan McNeill at FedCon XX in Dusseldorf, German – April 29, 2011

TM: Now that you’ve had all the experience running Chuck, looking back on your time in Voyager, is there anything from a producer/director perspective that you might have done differently? Something that you might have changed about the way that it was run?

RDM: The way Voyager was run? Laughs maniacally Yes. I would have changed a lot, to be honest. I heard someone at the studio saying one time that the ship was the star of the show, and that the actors were really irrelevant, which I found offensive. I come from a place, being an actor, a) that I really value the actors’ process and the actors’ contribution a lot. Because if we don’t have dynamic performances and happy actors, and actors that feel like their really contributing, then who cares, you know?

TM: And, you don’t feel like that was the attitude on Voyager?

RDM: No. Not really. I think they did believe that the ship was the star. And the actors were there to wear uniforms and say their words. I like to produce from a place of real collaboration, and I want people to feel heard and valued. Certainly there should be a vision for the show that comes from one person, and that person on our show is Chris Feedak who created the show Chuck. It’s not my vision, I’m helping Chris to achieve his vision, but we’re all contributing. Our actors contribute, our camera department, everyone contributes. I like a happy workplace. I think it’s more productive. I think the workplace in Star Trek, generally, was not the most productive. It was not always encouraged to bring in something unexpected or do something interesting. It’s funny; on Chuck we improvise jokes. Every take we try something different. I find that process more interesting. I think the actors get more excited. I owe so much to Star Trek and to the
studio and to the producers that ran the show. Having said that, I also learned a lot of what not to do. I feel like I behave very differently.


Robert Duncan McNeill as Tom Paris – says as a producer he would have done many things differently on "Star Trek: Voyager"

TM: Was the decision to bring in genre actors and Star Trek actors to Chuck due to your influence?

RDM: We brought over a lot of Star Trek alumni to Chuck. Some of that is my influence. Some of that is just that Chris Fedak and John Schwartz are nerds themselves, and they are big fans of genre shows and movies. But, in terms of the crew, actually, I brought over a lot of crew from the Star Trek world: AD’s and visual effects, Dan Curry from visual effects. So, I work with a lot of people now that used to work on Star Trek. We often are commenting on the difference between how we work at Chuck and how things worked at Star Trek. It was very different.

TM: When will we know if Chuck will be renewed for another season?

RDM: I think it’ll be around the middle of May. I don’t know the exact date.

TM: Is everyone at Chuck waiting on pins and needles at this point to hear if it will be renewed?

RDM: It’s funny. We’ve been through this so many times. Chuck is always on the bubble. It’s funny this year, it feels different and I’m not sure why. In the past years there’s always been a sense that we haven’t quite done it all yet. There’s definitely a sense of feeling like that in terms of the mythology. Things come together in a very interesting way. I just finished cutting it on Wednesday, and that’ll be out in a couple of weeks. In terms of that kind of complexity, I think we all feel like all of the things that we’ve wanted to do we’ve really been able to do, which we couldn’t say in the years past. Not that a fifth season wouldn’t be incredibly exciting, and we could do a lot of fun things. But, I don’t know, this year there’s a different sense. I can’t explain it. It’s a resignation to “whatever will be will be”. In the past we’ve always felt like, “Come on, give us one more! We’ve got some really cool things that we want to do that we haven’t done!” This year I think there’s a real sense of, “we’ve done a lot of cool things.” We’ve done a lot of cool things that I think people didn’t imagine that show could be or could do, with the way the characters have grown and with the mythology.


Robbie shows off Chuck "Nerd Herd" Tee shirt at FedCon XX

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Comments

1. CaptainDonovin - May 3, 2011

Voyager needed lots of help, there were some good stories but it did a great job of being boring at times.

2. CaptainDonovin - May 3, 2011

Speaking of Voyager, anyone know if Roxanne Dawson is still directing?

3. Jordan - May 3, 2011

Who the heck is that guy?

4. Vultan - May 3, 2011

It’s called aging. Look it up.

5. JP - May 3, 2011

I think a lot of the actors on Voyager suffered because somewhere along the way the writers and producers figured out that the Doctor and 7 of 9 were their favorite characters to write for and the actors playing the roles were the best actors in the cast. Thus the ensemble suffered as a whole. There was an imbalance. I think that’s less the fault of the rest of the cast and more a result of the Doctor and Seven providing the most opportunities character wise to explore themes previously explored with the characters of Spock and Data (the outsider characters).

The ship wasn’t the star of that show. 7 of 9 and The Doctor were. Whether for right or wrong.

6. T2 - May 3, 2011

It just kicked in for me…Voyager ended over 10 years ago! Where has the time gone?! Some of the cast looks the same…and some don’t…ah human nature.

7. jeff - May 3, 2011

agreed. let’s face it: the guy who played harry kim was a zilch. b’lana was a one-note actress (scowl and act grumpy). janeway came off as shrill and less than authoritative. chakotay could have been an interesting character, but his rough edges were smoothed out far too early and the actor was again far from multidimensional. the guy playing tuvok seems challenged playing a principal on “iCarly.” His notion of playing a Vulcan was to talk in a stiff cadence and wear a blank expression, and so he never seemed to grasp the concept of nuance.

Seven of Nine, by contrast, was at least interesting and fun to look at in the catsuit. And Robert Picardo, the Doctor, was a pro with a lot of character-actor experience under his belt. Small wonder those were the only two worth a damn in the whole series (which, by the way, plays like finest Shakespeare when compared to that abortion known as Enterprise.

8. jeff - May 3, 2011

Duncan McNeil was OK, too, but like Chakotay, got tamed too early in the series to remain very interesting.

9. Maj - May 4, 2011

Voyager was a great show, it was definitely a good Star Trek.

It’s just that the writers went a little too far with the interpersonal drama. And some of the characters, in truth, were conceptually silly. Like Kes, and Neelix who seemed to serve whatever minuscule purpose the writers would write for them. And some of the enemies were silly as well. The Kazon (fake klingons), the Videans. The Borg became far too humanized and emotional after they introduced the Queen –which is a total contradiction to the no-individuality to the Borg.

10. OLLEY OLLEY OLLEY - May 4, 2011

“SUITS”, They aways get a bad rap, has there even been a great or cool decision that a “Suit” has made? or are those only in the creative domain of the Actors / Directors ?

11. Captain Irving - May 4, 2011

I liked voyager. Yeah some of it was a bit rough. However at that time u had shows back to back so writing and creativity was a bit stretched too thin. I liked Tom Paris character. I wish they made him still rough around the edges. Neelix was good but kes ehh…. She really wasn’t necessary. Neelix was like the ferengi of that sector. Good at shmoozing and getting stuff. Let’s face it starfleet isn’t that good at the idea of business and profit in this time period. I liked janeway but chakotay his character would have been terrific as captain on this voyage. Looking back it would be neat to have had janeway more as a guidance tool. Say she was mortally wounded and her conscious was downloaded into the holodeck in order to put her body into status until a way to heal her. Should would be a source of wisdom for the crew.

Also the Borg I felt was good. The queen to me was an interaction tool for the humans. The Borg realized as a whole they needed a conscious to interact in order to better assimilate the human race. A way to bring our guard down. It was still a collective mind. The Borg made the queen and she became her own life form in the process.

12. Ray - May 4, 2011

One of my main beefs is STAR TREK storytelling (any of the series) is that there’s always a solution and the outcome is always successful: whatever is tried, whatever is devised, plan and executed: worked!

That got boring.

It would’ve been interesting to see from time to time that even the best of the best cannot carry the day.

Or how how regular cast members always succeeded in their careers when they showed a flash-forward episode. Sometimes, people level out early in their career or life just falls apart due to circumstances. Not all are admirals or captains of their own ships. Or at times, a good person just becomes a bitter or bad person. I remember an episode where reformed Tom Paris becomes the bittter, anti-Starfleet Paris again but we learn it was just an. act. That was boring. His loss of reformity and his stance against Starfleet should’ve been genuine, with the crew having to deal with him. That’s drama.

I hope the next series changes the STAR TREK story structure and themes; oh, yes, and sometimes, main characters die and stay dead!

13. tom r - May 4, 2011

i never felt like the actors were secondary to the ship!

who ever he heard that from wasn’t correct. I watched Voyager from start to finish the characters always came first!
It wasn’t bad television. It didn’t take many creative risks like Deep Space Nine, but lets not forget Voyager did some BIG 2 part episodes: Scorpion, Year of Hell etc most of those I felt were better than most of the trek movies.

14. Victor Hugo - May 4, 2011

He was already in that movie “Master of the Universe” which was from 1987, so he was in his 30s when he was shooting Voyager, looking younger.

15. Phobos - May 4, 2011

Mr. Paris needs to go on a diet, and fast.

16. Mike B. - May 4, 2011

I always felt that Rick Berman and the higher up at Paramount were just burned out when Voyager really got going. So much story had been done on TNG and DS9. I don’t think they knew that the franchise had a rest at some point. Saying things like the ship being the star was kinda that idea that people will aways buy Star Trek no matter what. Voyager was a decline and Enterprise was terrible, in my opinion.

17. Dac - May 4, 2011

The ship is A star of the show, not THE star. Firefly had it right, 9 people looking out into space seeing 9 different things, but Serenity was the 10th character.

In a way that’s what TOS was too.

18. Derf - May 4, 2011

#2 Sure, I still see her name pop up all the time in the opening credits for my favorite shows.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0206259/#Director

I actually started going it years ago with when I realized Frakes, McNeill and Dawson were directing. Since then, it’s been fun to see other names pop up.

One of the more interesting is this fellow, especially when you’re starting to watch an episode of Glee and you’re all “What the?!” and the other person is all “I know!!” :p

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000655/#Director

Watch your opening credits! :)

19. Horatio - May 4, 2011

Berman became rigid and resistant to any change other than whatever formula he had cooked up in his mind that he thought made the franchise run. Blame can also be aimed at whoever his minions at the Paramount front office were. UPN execs were equally as clueless.

Trek’s decline began during the Voyager era. Not because they were producing bad television, just that they were producing the same thing over and over and over again. Samness had infected the franchise and it transferred right over to Enterprise. Enterprise should have been the opportunity to reboot and bring in totally new and fresh people to reinvigorate the franchise. That this didn’t happen is the fault of the Executive Producers.

All that said, I still found Voyager entertaining. BTW, I still think there was something going on between Kim and Paris. Just saying.

20. K.O. - May 4, 2011

Is he pregnant?

21. Crewman Diaz - May 4, 2011

Que gordo está Tom Paris!!! No sé porque me acordé del episodio Threshold (VOY)! jajajaja

22. Tony Todd's Tears - May 4, 2011

I find it funny that the only Star Trek alums that speak about having a negitive experience on the show, are the Voyager People.

23. falcon - May 4, 2011

Wow, Robbie has really let himself go. :-)

That said, Voyager was everything Roddenberry didn’t want Star Trek to be – at least in terms of storytelling. It was “format vs. formula” (as Stephen [Poe] Whitfield wrote in “The Making of Star Trek“). Voyager was “formula.” Start with the ship, put it in danger, have someone come up with a technobabble solution, push the button, everything’s OK.

Some of Voyager’s (and frankly Trek’s) best episodes were when they deviated from the formula. Granted, TOS had only a couple (“City on the Edge of Forever” immediately comes to mind), TNG had a few (“The Inner Light,” “All Good Things,” “Best of Both Worlds [Part 1]“), DS9 was an anachronism (it pretty much tried to break the mold every episode and wasn’t always successful – “The Visitor” might have been the one episode where sticking to the formula actually worked) and VOY had a couple (and trust me, “Threshold” wasn’t one of them). That may be why Chuck is the success it is – because there’s more “out of the box” thinking that fits inside the format, but doesn’t devolve into formula.

I don’t watch the show, but I wish Robbie all the best and hope it’s renewed. It’s about the only bright spot NBC has right now.

24. captain_neill - May 4, 2011

While I have always been supportive of Rick Berman, I do agree that perhaps he could have been a bit loose on what he allowed the actors to do.

But I still feel a lot of great Trek was produced under his watch, but that is thanks to the writers who worked under him and with him.

In retrospect Voyager is my least fav Star Trek show but it still had a lot in there that I enjoyed.

I never thought Voyager was just about the ship but I do agree that i became The Seven and Janeway Show with the Doctor. A lot of characters could have been a lot better if they got more to work with.

What they did with Tom and B’Elanna in the last season of Voyager I liked.

25. captain_neill - May 4, 2011

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I think by the time they tweaked Enterprise in its last two seasons it was too late.

If Enterprise was like Seasons 3 and 4 from the Start, we could have had a full 7 year run with new take yet still Roddenberry Trek.

26. wowseruk - May 4, 2011

Voyager, for the most part, sat on it’s arse. lazy stories with lazy writing. TNG and DS9 both had early periods like this but learned the lessons in time. I am a trek fan and love Voyager, however I wish it had been so much more.

Voyager’s saving grace above all was it’s cast.

27. Dr. Image - May 4, 2011

DS9 got all the good writers when it started up.
That’s why TNG started sucking.
The same crew went on to perpetrate Voyager- and Enterprise.
This is all easily verifiable.

28. sean - May 4, 2011

Hey folks, howsabout we lay off the fat-shaming? Just because Robert aged and gained a couple of pounds doesn’t make it okay for you to mock his weight. Unless you all want to post pics of yourselves for the rest of us to critique?

29. Jack - May 4, 2011

13. He was ON the darned show.

30. captain_neill - May 4, 2011

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I totally agree, Voyager could have been more and also I think Voyager should have looked more run down after all it’s battles.

Voyager should have also dealt more with the conflict betwen Starfleet and Maquis as well.

But to it’s credit Voyager did some great high concept ideas.

31. Mel - May 4, 2011

When I read the start of the article, I didn’t know, who he was. I didn’t recognize him. I needed the “Tom Paris” picture to get a clue. He looks so different now, unbelievable! The TNG actors look more like their younger selves than him.

32. rm10019 - May 4, 2011

29, hi conept ideas in low-rent ways. Low-rent is the wrong term, i know, because the production values were always good if not great. What i mean is the artistic bent of the show skewed ‘bland’ and didn’t challenge the audience.

If you are going to challenge the audience currently, you also have to present it in a dynamic way, through pacing, action, camera and editing.

There is no reason that Trek should have looked like the same show in 1987, 1997 through 2006. TV had changed, but Trek didn’t change with it.

33. Allen Williams - May 4, 2011

I hope they renew chuck. Its the only show on NBC worth watching. The rest is pure trash.

34. captain_neill - May 4, 2011

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I thought Enterprise changed with it in the last 2 years

TO say Star Trek never changed is a bit unfair

35. Phil - May 4, 2011

May the 4th, be with you….

36. Phil - May 4, 2011

Voyager sould have been the show that broke the Trek mold. Instead, they shoved it back into the Trek 101 box, and it was a neat and clean platform to lecture the audience about the virtues of the clean and sterile Federation. Strip the characters of personalaty, bring on a hottie in the catsuit to mix things up, and we get enough ratings from the core to keep the show on, but the franchise becomes irrelevent to the rest of the viewing audience. Make a new show, change name to Enterprise, repeat. This is why JJ is a breath of fresh air, he’s approached the property as a clean slate.

37. John from Cincinnati - May 4, 2011

Robert Duncan Macneill is on a diet…it’s called the Shatner diet!

38. Factchecker - May 4, 2011

VOYAGER had its moments. I enjoyed Scorpion and Year of Hell.

I always wished VOYAGER had been a Captain Sulu / Excelsior series instead….and ENTERPRISE had been a Captain Pike / Lt. Spock / 1701 series (only with better scripts).

But I’m an old school fan with a love for TOS.

Alas…

39. Damian - May 4, 2011

At the time Voyager came out, Berman had asked the studio to back off. He wanted time to let DS9 flourish on it’s own and really did not want to do another show. Paramount’s response was basically “Fine, we’ll find someone else.” DS9 did well partly because it was more dynamic with writing. Voyager seemed to have the same type of writers week in and week out. I agree with Neill, I can watch it and mostly enjoy it, but it is the weakest of Star Trek. There were missed opportunities.

For one, I believe it was Braga who wanted to have more conflict between the Maquis crew and Starfleet crew but was overruled. In effect, after the 2nd episode, there was little difference between the Maquis and Starfleet.

Secondly, the ship should have been in much worse shape (similar to the Equinox, though since Voyager was more advanced, maybe not as bad). Yeah, from time to time they would run low on power or need technology. But for the most part the ship seemed no less worse for wear by year 7.

I think what could have made Voyager a great show would have been to have a ship that was barely holding it together. And a crew that only worked together because they had to to survive, not necessarily because they liked each other. Maybe as the show went on they could have started earning a mutual respect for one another. That would have been more believable.

40. Horatio - May 4, 2011

#39 – You mean Voyager should have been more like Ron Moore’s Battlestar Galactica!

Of which, I must concur.

41. Kev -1 - May 4, 2011

I think in TOS the producers and writers made the Enterprise a character– then it was a new, unique, dazzilngly original design–but I never really saw Voyager that way. I understand what he means, though, and sets should never eclipse the actors, but good sets can contribute to the overall production. Voyager, for me anyway, relied too much on soap opera, and never fully embraced its concept — a ship desperately far from home; they seemed to have power and spare parts to burn. Also, being outside Starfleet, the show could not fall back on Federation stories, everything had to be created. Very tough to do. The Maquis/Federation split crew didn’t seem to work that well either, and they seemed to drop even that after a while. I’m glad they had a female captain.

42. Lore - May 4, 2011

#28 This is nothing compared to the trashing that Jennifer Lien got about her weight.

43. sean - May 4, 2011

#42

Oh I know. People got pretty nasty when Denise Crosby gained weight, too. It’s one thing to have a bit of good-natured ribbing, but this just seemed unnecessarily nasty.

44. Hugh Hoyland - May 4, 2011

Not my favorite show, but I admit I watched it from start to finish. To me it was like comfort food, it was way to “safe” in all honesty.

But that was also its main fault, it didnt really take any chances IMO. Of course there were interesting concepts due to the great writters the franchise had over the years, but the show rarely strayed far from the standard formate.

When I first heard of the concept I was intrigued. A Star Fleet crew and rebels lost in deep space, forced to live and work together for their lives, potential solid drama there. But it just never seemed to materialize on the screen. I Still like the show though. :]

45. Hugh Hoyland - May 4, 2011

#38

Thats what I imagined ENT to be when I heard “prequel”. A return to the TOS style Federation with a pre-constitution class ship.

But what I seen was a prequel to TNG.

In some ways the early seasons of ENT actually reminded me of Voyager for some reason, just bland at times. But I agree with others, it took a step in the right direction in the 4th season.

46. T'Cal - May 4, 2011

VOY had some great episodes but too many others would start out with a very good plot and wrap it up way too quickly at the end. I liked Janeway and felt she came across for the most part as a very good leader who cared about her crew; that connection made her stronger, not weaker. And, she was allowed to display her curiosity that is part of her scientist background.

Tuvok and Chakotay were far too bland and one dimensional. Kes, too for that matter; she was regulated to the background rather quickly as there was apparently little they had planned for her, which is a shame. Kim was played off as “the kid” for far too long and it would’ve been very interesting to see him mature as a character to the point of moving into a different role that included a promotion or two. Torrez and Paris had some depth but not enough. The writers could’ve killed off Neelix in “Caretaker” and I would’ve been ecstatic – he was written to be THE most annoying regular character in all of Trek. That leaves 7of9 and the Doctor. She was an excellent character who was degraded by leaving her in a catsuit and spiked heels – ridiculously sexist. He tended to be annoying but over all was one of the best written characters on the show.

47. TBW - May 4, 2011

38) You are a TOS fan, but enjoyed Year of Hell? Year of Hell is everything everyone who had disdain for Voyager specifically hated about that show. Reset button.

48. Jack - May 4, 2011

Nobody on Voyager except for maybe Jeri Ryan, seemed particularly interested in what was happening around them, or even to them. Were they directed that way or were they just bored by the material? Kate Mulgrew, of course, charged her way through every scene, but she ended up playing Kate Mulgrew, I think.

49. sean - May 4, 2011

#47

Really? I hate Voyager, but still thought Year of Hell was probably their finest moment. A multi-faceted villain, Voyager blown to hell and back, Tuvok is blind and Janeway goes out like a badass ramming her ship into the enemy. What’s not to like?

50. The Original Spock's Brain - May 4, 2011

@ 7. jeff –

Right on the money on every point.

51. DAK - May 4, 2011

The advertisements and comercials for Voyager and a New Paramount Network channel gave me the impression that a big deal was going to land right down on my Star Trek neck!…

…all these years later I have bought and seen every Star Trek dvd only to find my self thinking…

…so when does this big deal start?

It must be time for “Reality Trek”. Lets put the fans out on a Ship in costume with basic incomplete stories and the freedom to improvise with some music and special effects thrown in for good measure. Don’t throw out the baby with the formula. Just change the predictable formula. Plus a few good actors to keep things serious…could be Great!!!

52. Magic_Al - May 4, 2011

Voyager had some great episodes and it consistently looked great, because by then the production was so well oiled they could make a million bucks look like ten million.

But, the studio and producers couldn’t stay committed to the truth of the “lost in space” premise and ultimately being cut off from the rest of the Star Trek galaxy became not a set up for new kinds of drama but a limitation on what the show kept trying to be, a continuation of TNG. How many Voyager stories could have been easily rewritten as TNG stories?

I’ve said it before, but instead of doing Voyager, it would have been best to continue TNG beyond season 7 the way ER continued after Clooney, just keep gradually changing the cast and occasionally have an original castmember return. Janeway could have become the new captain of the Enterprise and brought some other new people and remaining TNG characters would reveal new sides to their personalities in adapting. The show could have stayed on the Enterprise (like Star Trek should) and instead of spending money to build new starship sets every 7 years, gradually upgrade and expand how much of the ship we see. TNG might even still be on the air with that kind of approach!

53. Canon Schmanon - May 4, 2011

Somebody’s probably already said this, but maybe McNeill could run the next Star Trek series. I was not a fan of Voyager, and wasn’t impressed with McNeill on the show, but his words are wise.

54. JP - May 4, 2011

Another news story about RDM. Another chance for fans to bash his weight. How’s about you all post pictures of yourself and we can have a laugh at YOUR expense :)

55. Hugh - May 4, 2011

Making fun of a little weight gain? Really? I thought us nerds were supposed to be more accepting than that, rather than being pathetic body-typing sheep like the rest of the “normals”.

56. Browncoat1984 - May 4, 2011

McNeill is right both in regards to Voyager and Chuck. Hit hit the money on the nose with Voyager, I always felt about the show that they could give most lines of dialogue to any actor to say and it would still have worked, and that it really was about the ship. I love Chuck because you can tell that the actors are having a blast doing what they do, there’s great chemistry and you genuinely care about the characters.

And in regards to Chuck, I feel the same way. While I would LOVE for a fifth season, the way its going feels like things are winding down story-wise. Still, I’ve already had one show I love canceled and another one simply ending due to its longevity, two more are most likely on the out so I’d much rather Chuck get renewed because its one of the few shows that my family can sit down together and really enjoy.

57. captain_neill - May 4, 2011

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I agree with you, these were things I think they should have done with Voyager.

Still liked the show though but it is my least fav show.

58. Damian - May 5, 2011

It just seems Voyager was a missed opportunity. I liked the premise because one of my favorite aspects of Star Trek was exploration, and this was the ultimate in exploration. A ship lost on the other side of the galaxy with no contact with the Federation. But it could have been so much more. I think the writers started getting timid. They had certain things that worked in prior shows and I think what happens to anyone is that they get comfortable. It really wasn’t until season 3 of Enterprise that they started taking greater risks again.

So at the end of the day, I do own Voyager on DVD and I will watch it from beginning to end every so often. It has good moments and the exploration aspect is still there. But I can’t help feeling it could have been so much more.

59. Factchecker - May 5, 2011

@47 –

“You are a TOS fan, but enjoyed Year of Hell? Year of Hell is everything everyone who had disdain for Voyager specifically hated about that show. Reset button.”

YES. Disdain is THRESHOLD or any Harry Kim episode.

Not defending VOYAGER, but if the bane of your science fiction experience is the so-called RESET BUTTTON, then you might want to review these other TREK examples:

1) THE MOTION PICTURE: By mating with V’Ger and Ilia, Captain Decker hit THE RESET BUTTON for Admiral Kirk giving him back the Enterprise.

2) THE WRATH OF KHAN: By sacrificing himself in the battle with Khan, Captain Spock hit THE RESET BUTTON giving Admiral Kirk back the Enterprise.

3) THE SEARCH FOR SPOCK: By leaving his katra in McCoy and being left on Genesis, Nimoy and Bennett hit THE RESET BUTTON and resurrected Spock.

4) By giving Kirk and Crew the Enterprise-A, once again, somebody hit THE RESET BUTTON and they have a ship again.

5) THE FINAL FRONTIER: By Kirk and the boys singing “Row, Row, Row your boat / Life is but a dream” at the end of STV, it gives the fans the opportunity to hit THE RESET BUTTON, pretending the whole movie was a bad dream.

6) GENERATIONS: By using the Nexus as a confusing time travel plot device, the destruction of the Enterprise D and Veridian III was RESET, by yes, THE RESET BUTTON.

7) FIRST CONTACT: By giving DATA the ability to deactivate the emotion chip in FC the writers hit DATA’S RESET/REBOOT BUTTON returning the character to a sense of normalcy.

8) FIRST CONTACT: By giving the Borg a Queen, their whole identity was transformed by THE RESET BUTTON.

9) INSURRECTION: Riker / Troi romance = RESET BUTTON

10) NEMESIS: B4 = RESET BUTTON

11) JJ ABRAMS STAR TREK: JJ hit THE RESET BUTTON on the whole franchise.

Coming soon:

STAR TREK 2: THE WRATH OF THE RESET BUTTON

60. clinto - May 5, 2011

yes

61. Lou - May 5, 2011

wow, he’s really out of shape. I don’t even recognize him!

62. Jeff - May 5, 2011

He looks like Drew Carrey now.

63. DiscoVery - May 6, 2011

@ #33 – “Chase” was an incredible show, canceled recently by NBC.

More “Chuck”, please!!

64. Z3R0B4NG - May 6, 2011

Voyager was a good show for it’s time.

The biggest problem that i have when i look back and realy analyze what they did in the Series… are the villains.
First they had the Kazon and Seska, which were good villains, but they stayed to long on screen, it did not feel like Voyager was actually moving forward, but more like it was flying in circles.
If you think about it, Seska could have been pregnant and be killed in one season, but they dragged the plot arround for 3 Seasons.

They finally ended that plotline, and replaced the Kazon with the Borg.

OK Borg were the cool guys back then (First Contact just aired and they had all the new cool costumes and stuff…), but Voyager over-used them (the episode with the Kids, and the one with Chakotay who found that one colony of *liberated* Borg… that was just to much of it, and of course they kept the annoying Kids arround and made even more stupid episodes for them… *sigh*).

Then we had
Species 8472
and the Hirogen

which were both NEW and COOL and most importantly Voyager EXCLUSIVE villains.

Both of them started as uber evil villains that you couldn’t even talk to, and in about 3 Episodes both were reduced to *normal sized* *good educated, speaking and arguing people* almost like federation member races…
and we signed a non agression act and gave them a handshake, let’s be friends, oh by the way, you dont want to join the Federation? no? ok ok just asking…

BAM! There was your chance Voyager to be EPIC and stand on your own feet and you threw your best villains right out the window.

At the final Episode there was NOTHING else left to do but to finally destroy the Borg, get home and be done with it.

And somewhere in the middle from TNG to Voyager the Borg changed from an unstoppable collective to… a race with a chain of command and a leader that engages in way to many *irrelevant* activities “bye Harry”…

7 of 9 in “Scorpion”, would have made the perfect Borg Queen, cold, direct, efficient and deadly.

65. Jim Ertel - May 8, 2011

Despite an enormous among of efforts, Voyager was the worste Star Trek series ever. Must be one.

66. Stevie W - May 9, 2011

The problem with Voyager is that the producers didn’t have the guts to do something different. Too much of the old formula. Too much Starfleet protocol. Why not make things messy, with unresolved conflicts, power-struggles, continuous story-lines, questionable ethics, illicit affairs. No way that the typical starship power structure could be maintained lost in space as they were. Janeway’s decision to maroon her own ship and crew deep in space should have had consequences throughout the show. I gave up on the show during the second season, and maybe they did more of this but it certainly didn’t seem like it was heading that way. Consider the remake of Battlestar Galactica – now that was a well-written show for the most part.

67. scifi440-Simon - August 11, 2011

Watching Voyager from the Beginning I’m on season 3, last episode TBH @ no time have i ever considered the Space ship Voyager as being “The Star” of the show. The Doctor maybe!! but not the ship.
I liked next gen and Voyager was as good But i think we are way over due for a decent StarTrek series.

68. dave - January 5, 2012

I love when people beg for others to stop “fat-shaming” because it means they’re fat.

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