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Star Trek Sequel Wraps Production May 8, 2012

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Star Trek Into Darkness , trackback

Director JJ Abrams has wrapped production on his second Star Trek movie. Today marks the final day for principal photography for the Star Trek sequel, and it just happens to fall on the three-year anniversary of the release of Abrams first Star Trek film.

 

Star Trek sequel wraps

May 8, 2012 is the final day for production on JJ Abrams Star Trek sequel. TrekMovie had confirmed this info earlier, but this afternoon co-producer/writer Roberto Orci made it official commenting on the TrekMovie talkback…

boborci:
And… That’s a wrap!

Filming was wrapped on location in Northern California. The sequel production started on January 12th, 2012 and the team were able to wrap it up (on schedule) in just under four months. For comparison, Abrams was able to shoot the sequel in two weeks less than his first Star Trek, however that film’s production spanned through the Christmas 2007 holidays so there was a break in the middle.

And Orci isn’t the only one marking the day. Earlier today Simon Pegg, Star Trek’s new Mr. Scott, seemed a bit wistful as he sent out the following tweet:

And this evening, Quinto (Mr. Spock) sent out this image tweet.

UPDATE: Later in the evening (presumably after he finished), Pegg sent out the following:

Now to post-production

Now begins over a year of post-production, which is an extra-long time even for a big summer movie. While JJ Abrams 2009 Star Trek film had almost fifteen months of post-production, that was due to Paramount changing the release date while the film was in production (from Christmas 2008 to May 8, 2009), giving them over four extra months. 

Its worth noting that many aspects of what are considered post-production have already been going on for this sequel. Some of the ILM effects work even began back in the fall of 2011 before production started (you don’t need any actors to do space shots). And editors Mary Joe Markey and Maryann Brandon have at work in the editing room since January. But there are still other aspects of post-production which are yet to start, such as Michael Giacchino recording the score. But they all have plenty of time to get the final product they want.

And to Promotion…Teaser? Comic Con?

Soon we will pass the one year left to go mark for the film so there is still a while to go to promote the film, but this summer could still see some promotional moments. Co-writer/producer Damon Lindelof has stated that the team hopes to show "something" at San Diego Comic Con in July. Also, some films have teaser trailers released in the previous summer so it would not be a surprise if we saw something for Star Trek this summer. The first teaser for the last Star Trek movie came out in January 2008 which was 11 months ahead of the release (it came out before the date was changed).

The (still untitled) Star Trek sequel (in 2D and 3D) warps into theaters on May 17th, 2013. So stay tuned to TrekMovie.com to keep up with all the latest on the Star Trek sequel for the next year.

NOTE: This article is spoiler free, so no spoilers in the comments section below.

Comments

1. MJ - May 8, 2012

Yes!

2. Dee - lvs moon' surface - May 8, 2012

YES… YES… YES!!!

can’t wait for Trek 2013……….;-) :-)

3. Tanner Waterbury - May 8, 2012

How are there going to be spoilers if none of us really know WHAT the story is about, other than Mr. Orci?

4. MJ - May 8, 2012

Sounds to me like if they really wanted to, we could get a Christmas release here. Bummer the JJ neeeds such and unusually long amount of time. It aint like this is Avatar or Tranformers for Christ’s sake.

5. Red Dead Ryan - May 8, 2012

Yeah, I wouldn’t count on Comic Con for any trailers or announcements. In fact, the next three, four months will probably be relatively uneventful, with perhaps a couple bits of info released.

6. Captain Karl - May 8, 2012

#3 some know more than others;)

7. Quark - May 8, 2012

It must take an extra long time to add all the lens flares.

8. Red Dead Ryan - May 8, 2012

If the sequel did come out during Chrismas, then I can definitely see Comic Con as the premiere for the first trailer. However, since J.J Abrams wants to keep the sequel a total secret for as long as possible, Comic Con is unlikely.

Plus I think he’s still mad about the leaks.

9. Red Dead Ryan - May 8, 2012

Chrismas=Christmas

DAMN TYPOS!!!

10. Blake Powers - May 8, 2012

I’m actually surprised they have been able to keep so much under wraps.. Good job Guys!

11. CJS - May 8, 2012

Quick, let’s make a bunch of suggestions to Bob Orci about things they should change/include/avoid in an already completed movie.

12. Hankster - May 8, 2012

Excitied!!! Will the cone of silence be lifted (Bob?)???

13. Sara - May 8, 2012

I have my fingers crossed that they do bring SOMETHING to Comic Con. Even if it’s not footage, just the cast or something.

14. Trekker5 - May 8, 2012

AWESOME!!! What a more fitting day to wrap it up too! It’s been how many years today? Three right? I’m tellin’ ya,if they were to show a teaser trailer at ComCon,OMG!! I’d fall outa my chair with happiness!! :) Ah,but one can only hope!! :)

15. sunfell - May 8, 2012

Now the wait begins. First for the trailers, then for the movie itself. Bet we see shot-by shots explanations of the trailer(s) here by this fall. :-)

16. James M - May 8, 2012

They should have stuck with a December 2012 release date.

17. James M - May 8, 2012

Now they can start writing the script for Star Trek 3 / #13 to hopefully be released in time for Paramount Pictures real 100th Anniversary of the Paramount name in 2014.

18. Anthony Pascale - May 8, 2012

As we reported a while back, the team could have made a holiday 2012 release date, but Paramount wanted summer and since Summer 2012 wasn’t possible anymore (due to SUPER 8 cutting into Trek’s development/pre-production) they were left with Summer 2013. In theory they could have waited a few more months to start production but they had been waiting so long, once JJ was available they just started the ball rolling and let the studio decide when the movie comes out.

19. braxus - May 8, 2012

Excellent. Can’t wait to see it in IMAX when it comes out.

20. Dr. Cheis - May 8, 2012

They have a year to come up with a name for the movie now…

21. SirMartman - May 8, 2012

That ghostbusters hand on the trek logo is running outta fingers!

looking forward to a trailer !

Bet theres a party at Orci’s place,, mmmm,,maybe hes at Hooters too!

:oD

22. Legend of Link - May 8, 2012

It’s just….so…far……away. Guess I’ll just have to get my fix of Avengers (again), Spider-Man, and Batman.

23. Phil - May 8, 2012

What’s done is done. Hoping for the best.

24. Jack - May 8, 2012

What happened to no spoilers?

Exactly. Once these things are out, they can’t be contained. Alas, it’s just the way things work. It just means that, well “if you don’t like it, don’t read spoilers” isn’t really an option.

Just me, but I’d rather see this thing in the spring – I don’t miss the days of waiting outside in the cold on opening night to get tickets for the latest Trek (I’m extremely old).

11. Lol. You clearly come here often.

25. Phil - May 8, 2012

May 17th…hey, my anniversary. Guess I’ll be missing opening weekend, unless Lisa is working.

26. DS9 IN PRIME TIME - May 8, 2012

only a year and a week to go!

27. Anthony Pascale - May 8, 2012

NO SPOILERS IN COMMENTS

28. Hat Rick - May 8, 2012

Given what Mr. Lindelof said, wouldn’t it be a letdown if what was shown at the Comic-Con was simply a slide that said, “Something”?

29. Andrew - May 8, 2012

boborci, we call you great one! Please grace us with your presence!

30. Walter Kozlowski - May 8, 2012

What would you guys like in a score????

31. RACH - May 8, 2012

IM GONNA DIE, SO LONG TO WAIT, PLZ!!! HOPE TO SEE YOU SOON MR. SPOCK!!!!=))

32. Ahmed - May 8, 2012

Great news, can’t wait to see the movie.
Maybe we will see the trailer at Comic Con this year.

33. Sebastian S. - May 8, 2012

Well, now comes the waiting game (as we’ve done for the last couple years). With the cast that they have (all excellent, IMO) and despite my initial misgivings about a Khan story, I still look very much forward to this one.

And I still think Cumberbatch’s Khan could work if his current appearance is a surgical/genetically altered disguise of some sort. Remember, he fled aboard the SS Botany Bay a wanted war criminal. I’d think if he were revived to people sympathetic to his cause (the Peter Weller villain, perhaps?) he’d want to shake any potential recognition by changing his look ASAP (and one can only guess how good plastic surgery would be in the 23rd century). You could even do it as a casual, throwaway line or two of dialogue rather than a belabored exposition.

At any rate, looking forward to seeing it.
Crossing (or splaying) my fingers for 2013~! ;-)

34. Charles d'Ile de Jouets d'Inadapté - May 8, 2012

@30: Krzysztof Penderecki-esque

35. Sebastian S. - May 8, 2012

And I’m going to Comic Con, but if the trailer (or any material of the new ST) is showing in the infamous Hall H? I doubt I’ll get to see it. I’m too old to wait in line overnight to see a trailer …. ;-D

36. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - May 8, 2012

Hey Anthony. I think it is time for the countdown clock to get started.

37. Commodore Mike of the Terran Empire - May 8, 2012

Here is what we know. Nimoy is somehow in the new movie. Khan will be there as well. Klingon’s will be in the movie. I almost bet that Romulan’s will make a splash. Here’s to Trek making a big time Avenger’s SPLASH.

38. Phil - May 8, 2012

Avengers just topped 700 million, had a 4 movie prequel build up, and a year long PR campaign. We need to keep the expectations real here, folks. Trek does not have that kind of reach, and if it is indeed a reimaging of TWOK, simply hitting 2009’s box office numbers might be a bit of a stretch….

39. NCM - May 8, 2012

Good luck herding the cats, Anthony:)

40. Meow mix - May 8, 2012

YES!! YES!! YES!! Daniel Bryan YES!!

41. danielcraigsmywookiebitchnow - May 8, 2012

33 and 37 I am guessing that since Anothny said in the article and in the comments section not to write about the spoilers, that you dont believe those rumors that you mentioned to infact be spoilers and in that case not even true :>) lol sorry couldnt resist.

42. Red Dead Ryan - May 8, 2012

$700 million? Well, it looks like “The Avengers” will become the highest grossing superhero movie ever. Will it break “Avatar”s record? Probably not. Eventually the summer competition will bite into “Avengers” pie.

I only hope Warner Bros. gets their act together and makes a “Justice League” movie. Although DC characters (apart from Batman, who has succeeded Superman as the flagship character) aren’t nearly as popular as Marvel’s.

43. DarthDogg - May 8, 2012

I just want Trek back on TV were it belongs. % years between movies is not enough. God I miss the 90′.

44. Red Dead Ryan - May 8, 2012

The “Star Trek” sequel comes out next May. But so does “Iron Man 3″, “Fast And Furious 6″, and the next “Pirates Of The Carribean”.

So the sequel won’t have nearly as big of a pie to eat up, and the number of Trek fans dwarfs in comparison to superhero fans.

So right off the bat, there is no way that the sequel will come close to “The Avengers” numbers. It’ll be lucky to reach half that.

45. Ahmed - May 8, 2012

According to Box Office, Star Trek (2009) earned $257,730,019 in its US run from May 7, 2009 to October 1, 2009.

That is in no way close to Avengers, but for a Star Trek movie, it was the highest-grossing Trek movie ever.

46. nate - May 8, 2012

So Trek 2 is wrapped and Iron Man 3 hasn’t started shooting yet, but comes out 2 weeks earlier. Hollywood makes no sense to me!

47. MJ - May 8, 2012

If Trek 2012 is BETTER than Trek 2009, $350M US plus $150M International is what it should make.

48. Phil - May 8, 2012

That’s a really big if, and I suspect that if the foreign box office isn’t close to the domestic box office, they may just pull the plug on a third movie.

49. Ahmed - May 8, 2012

I wish if they somehow manage to reduce the amount of time that post-production take, so we won’t have to wait years for a movie to come out.

50. LizardGirl - May 8, 2012

I want to hear the wrap speech! Hope they put that on the special features of this Trek movie. Yeah, Yeah, I know I’m putting the wagon before the horse (whatever that means).

I just want to say to JJ, Alex, Bob and all the actors and EVERYONE ELSE that I’m really excited and can’t wait to see what you guys have for us. I will be at the theater opening night (or day if I call off…seriously debating). I read this and gave you guys an enthusiastic round of applause (my family already knows my idiosyncracies so no worries).

Whatever it is you did I’m immensely proud of it and you guys for doing a Trek movie and happy that you stuck to it. I will be even more proud when I go see it. Thanks again!

51. Gary Makin - May 8, 2012

Only a year to edit it!

Wow, this month we celebrate three years of lame lens flares comments.

52. Jack - May 8, 2012

44. it’s kind of odd that this May has, really, only the Avengers, as far as major releases go. Maybe Bad Robot can rush this thing out in the next 15 days and capitalize on that. How long can it take to record a soundtrack and do a little CGI?

I wonder (and I’m sure the answer is bingable) if having a big hit in theatres helps all the other films also out at the time — I ended up seeing Five Year Engagement (which I probably would have waited to see online, otherwise… it was good, btw, I just have a little Apatow-fatigue and was wary, but it was one of the better romantic comedies in a long time), because all the Avengers (6 screens) for the night were sold out by 6 pm on Saturday. Other people in line had similar conversations — “Should we see Hunger Games again? We spent 40 minutes looking for a parking spot, so we’re not going home.”

I don’t know, though — that doesn’t mean that people will necessarily choose one (Iron Man, say) over the other (Trek). Maybe it’ll break records anyway. Anyone here a box office analyst?

BTW, I remember working in a multiplex movie theatre in high school (late ’80s) and having to call in the box office results for each movie every night to this central number for whomever compiled them for these lists. We spoke to an actual person, if I recall correctly — it seemed weird even then that it wasn’t done by computer. I’m guessing this has changed since then.

53. Johnny - May 8, 2012

Well one thing is for sure. Since they have so much time for post-production work, this movie is going to look and sound OUTSTANDING. There certainly won’t be any shoddy, “rush-job” effects shots… and the 3D conversion should look better than most do.

54. Gary Makin - May 8, 2012

Re: box office – some of the Avengers setup movies didn’t do any better than Star Trek (2009). The Dark Knight did way better than Batman Begins. Mission Impossible 4 did way better than Mission Impossible 3… Star Trek 2 will do way better than 1. At least $500m, I’d say. Maybe more with 3D ticket prices.

By the way, more people have watched Trek than have ever read any comic book, or any science fiction/fantasy book.

55. The Great Bird of the Galaxy lives! - May 8, 2012

30-

I miss the original chirps, beeps, and whistles. All those bridge sounds, etc. Guess those elements are gone. So I would- at least- like to hear elements of the original series in the score. Many of those short pieces have become a staple in the franchise. With a modernized revision they can come alive once again. It would really help the viewer connect with the the original series…

43-

Amen, but said return to television would have to be profoundly unique, while staying in the ‘Star Trek’ format.

56. Johnny - May 8, 2012

@55

I haven’t watched the new film in awhile… but I thought they did include a lot of the old chirps/beeps/whistles? Ben Burtt’s sound design was actually some of THE BEST I’ve ever heard in a movie.

57. BeyondtheTech - May 8, 2012

Sigh.

Looks like that “Super 8’s Watch It & Walk-On Sweepstakes” was just bupkis.

I was really hoping that I or someone else on TrekMovie.com would win that non-speaking walk-on role for the Star Trek sequel.

I really thought I had a chance and entered religiously every day, and even when they cut off the home page, I was still able to Google to the Official Rules page and followed the instructions with a self-addressed, stamped envelope to get the list of winners. I never got the envelope back.

I even tweeted a few times to Bob Orci, to which he finally replied, “@BeyondtheTech @Super8Movie I had nothing to do with Super 8!”

Guess we’ll all just have to admire it on the big screen next year.

58. MJ - May 8, 2012

@48. Half a billion is half a billion, Phil.

59. Phil - May 8, 2012

@58. It’s a big leap to assume this is a 500 MM movie. Given how the last one performed, 400 MM is realistic. A 50/50 (domestic/foreign box office)split would probably mean a sequel, but 75/25 might not, given studios expectation these days that 60% foreign box office is the sign of a healthy tentpole franchise.

60. danielcraigsmywookiebitchnow - May 8, 2012

52 the grosses still get called in at the end of everynight, still that other person on the other end of the phone.

61. boborci - May 8, 2012

hi

62. Ahmed - May 8, 2012

@61.boborci

Hey, can you give us any update regarding the trailer or at least the title of the sequel

Thanks

63. Pointyearbastard - May 8, 2012

Out celebrating with a bit romulan ale, bob?

64. Anthony Pascale - May 8, 2012

I don’t expect the sequel to do AVENGERS money, AVATAR money or DARK KNIGHT money. But there is a lot of room between those and NEMESIS money. I think they should be shooting for improvement over the last Trek film, like $450-500M…Even more would be great. The challenge is international markets in non-english speaking countries, which has always been a weakness for Trek. 3d should help there and hopefully the 2009 film has built some buzz through home video and so people who didn’t see ST09 will go see the sequel.

65. number6 - May 9, 2012

Great news. Wooooooooooooo!

66. saavik001 - May 9, 2012

61. Congrats Bob! Can’t wait till next year!

67. porthoses bitch - May 9, 2012

As were talking box office…has anyone heard reasoning as to why Avengers went for early may instead of a Memorial day opening? My only guess isto give it a little breathing room is a superhero packed summer.

68. porthoses bitch - May 9, 2012

Ive always wondered how much Trek 2009 was tweaked between its original 12/08 release date and its 05/09 eventual release. Supposedly it was locked in 10/08…and that the power that be decided it was more of a “summer tentpole” flick back in 2-3/08.

69. Jim Nightshade - May 9, 2012

Avengers was soooo great specially in imax 3d……the humor excellant the battles star warsish big but better cuz u care about the characters…didnt care too much for the starwars/stargateish ending….joss whedon did everything right…nerdy fanboys rule…kirby lives hah…

star trek could make more than the last one–many people saw n liked trek09 many more got the bluray—cant wait hope the danged world dont end in dec.,,

70. La Reyne d'Epee - May 9, 2012

So what can we talk about for a year chaps?

*twiddles thumbs*

71. captain_neill - May 9, 2012

This film in comparion to other Trek movies will still make a ton of money. The way it is marketed now even if Abrams alienated all Trekkies I still believe this would be the biggest Trek film. Its how its marketed.

I know that sounds like Abrams took over the party and kicked out the hosts but that is how popular Trek is again, thanks to him.

Also it needs to make the money as the Abrams ones have a bigger budget. I am looking forward to this loads, I wish they had done something a bit more fresh but if they do something different rather than rehash the classic Space Seed then that be cool.

Will it top Wrath of Khan or First Contact? Doubtful but I still think it will be a great film.

72. Trekboi - May 9, 2012

Please stop using the Star trek ghostbuster 2 logo- it’s just embarrasing & undrmines the film- it’s not a trasshy comedy sequel

73. Trekboi - May 9, 2012

I hope they use the extra 6 months to test the film on audiances & re shoot all the mistakes they have probably made (if their sequel talents “TransFormers: Revenge of the Fallen” are an indication of what we might be in for)

74. VulcanFilmCritic - May 9, 2012

I guess it will do OK, at least OK enough for a potential third film, but I doubt it will best ST09.

Unless there is some really sweet surprise, like an appearance by Mr. Shatner+/- Mr. Nimoy, there’s no curiosity factor. It’s just a sequel.

It has to generate a lot of multiple viewings, so it has to be at least as good or better than ST09, and sequels rarely are.

Young adults, not teenagers, outside of Star Trek fandom, are just not into the franchise. I don’t know anyone in the 20-35 year range who wasn’t already a Star Trek fan, who’s seen ST09. Whereas this group does go to see things like “The Dark Knight.”

Don’t get your hopes up too high.

Paramount should really consider marketing this movie very aggressively. At least give the fans a little love.

75. Mr Lirpa - May 9, 2012

Three years since ST opened… time flys way too fast!

76. CmdrR - May 9, 2012

Trekboi — Who peed in your quadrotritakale?

77. TrekMadeMeWonder - May 9, 2012

MARVELS: The AVENGERS.

Nuff Said.

78. Basement Blogger - May 9, 2012

Hooray. Not a fan of 3D conversions though. But I hope they really work at it. J.J. said previously that it would be a quality conversion like Harry Potter. Let’s just hope that J.J. kept 3D in mind when he was filming. That way he could said up the shots to maximize the 3D medium.

One year is a long wait. I hope the Mayans were wrong.

79. Selor Kiith - May 9, 2012

One long long year… start counting the days lads an’ lasses!
The sure hell I’ve set up my calendar :D

80. Buzz Cagney - May 9, 2012

Little suggestion Bob. If you get writing now we won’t have to wait 4 years for the next one! Man, we none of us are getting any younger here!
Hope you enjoyed the last few months and look forward to seeing the finished product.

81. Just have a question For Mr. Orci - May 9, 2012

Mr. Orci have you guys ever thought of the idea of doing a Ghostbusters 3 script?

82. Captain_Pike - May 9, 2012

I can’t wait to see the movie. It would be my first star trek movie I’m watching to the big screen and I’m excited.

83. VZX - May 9, 2012

Tony: $400-500 million? I would predict on the much lower end of that. I do not know why Star Trek is not that popular in non-English speaking countries. It is ironic, since Trek always promoted unity and tried to have a multi-national crew.

84. Charla - May 9, 2012

You can feel and hear the collective sigh of relief here on TrekMovie! Great news Bob and TrekMovie! Thanks for the update :-)

85. VZX - May 9, 2012

Has any movie from summer 2013 released any teasers yet?

86. Charla - May 9, 2012

Good point VZX. It is odd.

87. denny cranium - May 9, 2012

And now we wait-
So now its comic books- books -reruns and phase II

88. chrisfawkes.com - May 9, 2012

I think i’ll go see it in London. Unless it premiers at the Opera House again then i will do that.

89. Janice - May 9, 2012

YAY!!
One year till I get to see Admiral Pike in the sequel!
Can hardly wait!

90. Ralph Pinheiro - May 9, 2012

Mr. Bob,

Will we see any teaser this year?

91. bmar - May 9, 2012

I can’t believe that no one has noticed the completely horrendous error the ST production team has made. Look at that picture of Simon Pegg’s Red Tunic. The Gold stripes are CLEARLY at least one or two millimeters off in both size and distance from each other. Once again, this team has shown complete disregard for the decades of canon that has gone before. I for one, will not see the movie, based on this evidence.

92. ilker - May 9, 2012

Do you guys have this feeling:

I watch this team’s productions, including ST 2009, MI series and somehow the movie flows nice. However strange enough, I do not feel anything as a moviegoer, like you feel after Dark Night, Spider Man, or just lately, the Avengers. you watch stuff from these guys, it’s not bad when it is on, but then poof, it’s as if you did not see the movie. Can’t be even a cult film of yourself.

The scale, the stunts, a lot of stuff is there, but there is this unmissable shallowness feeling I cant get rid of. Maybe it is because of over-engineering the film to fill in the action pockets one after another… It seems like their formula for TV is heavy suspense (and they are very good at it) and tireless action for the cinema.

I am a Trekkie, old enough to have watched everything from the franchise (TOS as reruns) and watch a load of other movies ranging from blockbusters to festival short films. And I have tried re-watching their work an important number of times to counter myself, if I had any misjudgements.

This is a strange thing to try to share. I hope the ST sequel won’t be like that. And leave people like me having some feelings about the plot and characters.

93. Phil - May 9, 2012

Not only a sequel, it’s a remake. Comparisons to TDK don’t apply.

94. Borgminister - May 9, 2012

Nope, don’t have that feeling at all.

95. rm10019 - May 9, 2012

I LIKE this ship… it’s exciting!

96. DiscoSpock - May 9, 2012

#91 — Weak, but keep trying!

#92 — I know what you mean. ST09, for example, is a great roller-coaster ride of a movie, but that’s just it: It’s a roller-coaster ride. Roller coasters are exciting, exhilarating, and extremely fun, but not exactly “deep” experiences.

But it’s hard to go really deep in a movie like ST09 because the filmmakers had to do so many others things at the same time. They made a fun, exciting, mostly-feels-like-Trek action film that is sequel, prequel, and reboot in one while being accessible to newcomers and…(gasps for breath)

There’s room for more depth and meaning in the sequel. However, that still might not take care of the emptiness you mentioned. So many of these films and shows are like the cliche about Chinese food: tastes great, but an hour later you don’t feel like you’ve eaten anything.

97. Valenti - May 9, 2012

So… awesome!! /)^3^(\

98. Borgminister - May 9, 2012

And thus don’t become morbidly obese.

99. T'Cal - May 9, 2012

All this secrecy is nonsense. It’s too extreme and it’s annoying. I don’t want the script but a title and plot summary is hardly too much to expect as every other film make does so. Secrecy doesn’t create anticipation when it’s done to this extreme; it creates animosity. JJA, whose talent I appreciate, could learn a thing or two from Chris Nolan. See Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, and The Dark Knight Rises for examples.

100. VulcanCafe - May 9, 2012

IMHO a sequel’s box office performance is often a result of the quality/entertainment value of the film it is following. For example, X-men was good and made about 300mil global, X2 made 400 mil, and X3 did another 460mil (but was terrible so it impacted the next film.) Next up, Wolverine did *only* 373, and Xmen First class only did 350.

Based on that theory this should do very well, even if its not great, because 2009 was excellent. We’ll talk in a year, lol.

101. rm10019 - May 9, 2012

Boldly Go!

102. Phil - May 9, 2012

Mold Will Grow!

103. Thorny - May 9, 2012

“Warps into theaters May 17th, 2013″? Heh, heh. Sputters in at sub-light speed is more like it. The only slower -moving sequel was Indiana Jones 4, unless they finally make Ghostbusters 3.

104. Christopher Roberts - May 9, 2012

Over to the post-production team now, and their work on the movie’s surprise ending, involving lifelike CG renders of the original cast.

]:->

105. MvRojo - May 9, 2012

I’d be shocked if there wasn’t a teaser at least with G.I. Joe Retaliation, since that is, unfortunately, Paramount’s big tentpole film this summer.

106. Azrael - May 9, 2012

Hey Voodoo, no spoilers in the comments, Anthony will spank.

107. Basement Blogger - May 9, 2012

With all this talk of The Avengers, Spider-Man, Prometheus and Dark Knight, maybe we should be happy that Star Trek didn’t come out this year. Yeah, it’s got Iron Man 3 to compete with but I got a good feeling about Star Trek 2013. They promised to go deeper and Pine says there’s a ton of action.

Maybe the video game will help the movie. After all video games are huge business. If Star Trek video game is great, that may get everybody excited for the movie.

108. Captain Hackett - May 9, 2012

I have noticed that there are much less spoilers in this movie than in the last movie.

109. Slornie - May 9, 2012

Why do we have to wait another whole year??? :'(

110. Red Dead Ryan - May 9, 2012

If the movie is great, then there is no reason why the Trek sequel can’t make at least $500 million. On the other hand, if the film makes less than what the first J.J Trek made, then that will be it for the franchise for a long time. No more movies, and definitely no new television series. Paramount is putting more money into the sequel this time, with the increase coming from a better overseas ad campaign. But if the same non-English speaking countries show the same indifference this time, it could spell trouble. Because as I mentioned earlier, a number of other blockbusters come out around the same time as the sequel.

111. MJ - May 9, 2012

@112 “Because as I mentioned earlier, a number of other blockbusters come out around the same time as the sequel.”

As I recall, RDR, awhile back you used that same reasoning to argue for not releasing the sequel this Christmas, although my memory could be off on this?

112. Elias Javalis - May 9, 2012

I believe nothing is certain. Batman Begins did a little better than trek 2009 overseas but the dark Knight destroyed the box office everywhere. Good Star trek films tend to make three times their money. Abrams Trek cost 130-135 mil – made 386. Thats a hit. If trek 2 is a among the good flicks and have a production budget of 175 mil, it ll make about 500, perhaps more. Plus an aggressive campaign, (as a fellow poster suggested) and 2 strong names like Cumberbatch and Weller…and there you are..success

But then again…nothing is certain:)

113. LizardGirl - May 9, 2012

@61 Hello!!!

Now people know who the actors are. Since 2009, Chris, Zoe, Simon, Keith, etc., have been in other movies and projects. Also the American audience is warming up to Benedict, what with Sherlock season 2 on TV here. People are genuinely interested in him.

Then you have JJ, who’s name has been on several tv productions since Star Trek. The writers themselves involved in other projects that the general audience is familar with.

This time around there will be a good deal of buzz and I truly believe that A LOT more people will be coming to ST2013.

114. Basement Blogger - May 9, 2012

@ 113

I hope you’re right. The more money Star Trek makes, the more Star Trek. And maybe we might get a TV series where the franchise belongs.

115. Basement Blogger - May 9, 2012

@ 112

“On the other hand, if the film makes less than what the first J.J Trek made, then that will be it for the franchise for a long time. ”

RDR, that’s kind of depressing. Let’s hope the video game kicks butt. And all those game fans, some who are not Trekkers, will turn out for the movie. Until the movie comes out, we’ll just have to watch the old shows. A Trekker asked me to watch Assignment Earth. I did. It was very entertaining. Found the premise of Gary Seven to interesting. Guess we can continue to enjoy the old shows.

116. Red Dead Ryan - May 9, 2012

#114.

You are partially correct. I argued that Paramount now viewed the “Star Trek” film series as a summer tentpole franchise. That they remembered the “Nemesis” debacle (although the movie did turn out to be a major disappointment) where it was put in the midst of blockbusters such as “Harry Potter”, “James Bond” and “Lord Of The Rings”. People are also spending lots of money on Christmas as well, so the holidays themselves are competition.

I never said a Trek film couldn’t make a lot of money during the holiday season. But I think a Trek movie is better suited for the summer, just like how superhero movies are. I guess it really doesn’t make a whole lot of difference, but switching to summer might have been just what the doctor ordered for the Trek film franchise.

Plus, the general “atmosphere” of the last Trek film, i.e the lens flares, the bright lighting, the rapid action scenes, the brightly colored crew uniforms, et al, give off the “summertime action” feeling. Well, for me, at least. :-)

117. Red Dead Ryan - May 9, 2012

May 2013 might be better for the sequel, despite the competition. “Iron Man 3″ will be the fourth time in five years that we’ve seen the title character, “The Fast And The Furious” will be in its fifth sequel, and “Pirates Of The Carribbean” continues with its fifth movie. There is a chance that at least a couple of those movies will show a decline in revenue compared to the previous installments due to possible “franchise fatigue”, something, ironically, once afflicted the Trek franchise.

Me, while I can’t wait for IM3, ST2, and F&F 6, I don’t really have any interest in another POTC movie. So there you go. At least one of those movies is not likely (things could change, however, between now and then) to see any of my money.

118. No Khan - May 9, 2012

This is taking forever to get to the screen.

119. rm10019 - May 9, 2012

Let Hollywood be warned…

120. Anthony Pascale - May 9, 2012

I’m tired of deleting spoilers so i am just going to have to start banning people who have ignored the two above warnings

121. Rocket Scientist - May 9, 2012

92. ilker

Yes.

122. VZX - May 9, 2012

I do want the movie to do well, but I doubt it will. But here’s an interesting point: How is it that Captain America actually did better at the foriegn box office than the domestic? And yet, Star Trek, with all its multinationalism, performed much better in the US.

123. Ahmed - May 9, 2012

@99. T’Cal – May 9, 2012

“All this secrecy is nonsense. It’s too extreme and it’s annoying. I don’t want the script but a title and plot summary is hardly too much to expect as every other film make does so. Secrecy doesn’t create anticipation when it’s done to this extreme; it creates animosity.”

Totally agree with you, too much secrecy might hurt the movie. At least, we should have by now, the title & summary of the plot & when they are ready, perhaps a teaser. A year is a long time to go by with so little information.

I generally hate spoilers, but again, have no information at all doesn’t make sense.

At the end of the day, I guess it is up to the guys at the marketing department. Either way, I’m happy that things are moving now.

124. VZX - May 9, 2012

117: RDR: Good point. Lots of competition. But, Pirates movies always do will overseas.

Here’s my prediction:
Star Trek 2013 BO Take:
US: $280 million
Foreign: $120 million.
Total: $400 million.

125. Red Dead Ryan - May 9, 2012

#122.

I think its possible that people in foreign countries assume that Trek has tried to pander to and patronize them with the “inclusive” and “multi-ethnic” preaching. Maybe they were turned off by the very same message that sought to appeal to them?

People are much more cynical these days.

126. Ahmed - May 9, 2012

@125. Red Dead Ryan – May 9, 2012

“I think its possible that people in foreign countries assume that Trek has tried to pander to and patronize them with the “inclusive” and “multi-ethnic” preaching. Maybe they were turned off by the very same message that sought to appeal to them?”

There might be another reason, that science fiction in general & space based movies specifically are not popular over there. I watched Star Trek (2009) in Cairo, Egypt & there were just around 25 people in the theater that day !!

127. Red Dead Ryan - May 9, 2012

#126.

Are you from Egypt?

128. LizardGirl - May 9, 2012

@116 RDR I totally agree with you about releasing Star Trek in the summer. All of the kids are out of school, meaning there’s nothing to do but see a few good movies. People are taking vacations.

It seems summers are more lucritative for movies, not that people don’t watch them in December. I think that people want to get out more when it’s warmer. And what better place to go than an air conditioned room with popcorn and snacks!

129. Fubamushu - May 9, 2012

Does this mean there is enough time to hire new writers, come up with a completely different script, and re-shoot everything so we end up with a credible, decent film?

130. Craiger - May 9, 2012

What would the sequel have to make for the third movie to happen? Also if would CBS consider a new Trek TV series based on if the sequel does well or the whole trilogy does well before green lighting a new TV series? If that the case until the trilogy is done then we wont see a new Trek TV series until when 2020 at the earliest?

131. AJ - May 9, 2012

I think it’s high time to release a title. “As Yet Untitled STAR TREK Sequel” just isn’t getting the message across to the focus groups. Lacks pizazz.

Maybe, when it’s released, they’ll give us lensless glasses and earplugs in the theaters so as not to spoil the plot for ourselves and others.

132. Ahmed - May 9, 2012

@127. Red Dead Ryan – May 9, 2012

” #126.
Are you from Egypt?”

No, but I lived there for over a decade. As you can imagine, it was very frustrating when a new Trek movie is released direct to video, as it was the case with Generations & First Contact . Only Star Trek (2009) was released in theaters & just for 3 or 4 weeks.

@130. Craiger – May 9, 2012

“Also if would CBS consider a new Trek TV series based on if the sequel does well or the whole trilogy does well before green lighting a new TV series? If that the case until the trilogy is done then we wont see a new Trek TV series until when 2020 at the earliest?”

I hope CBS will go ahead and greenlit a new series regardless of how the sequel perform at the box office.
7 years without a Star Trek series is long time, they need to get going & bring Trek back to TV.

133. rm10019 - May 9, 2012

133 – I agree that Trek should return to TV, and I would like Ron Moore to get the showrunner gig.

134. Basement Blogger - May 9, 2012

@ 34 Says

“@30: Krzysztof Penderecki-esque ” regarding the score. Holy Cow. We’ve got an avant garde classical music joke. And who says Trekkers aren’t sophisticated or hip?

135. CAPT KRUNCH - May 9, 2012

1 year left!!!
We need a cool web site like the construction sight from 08-09.
Just some mind numbing thing to keep us busy for the long year ahead!
I khan’t wait!!!!!!!!!

136. Gary Makin - May 9, 2012

My BO prediction: $300m domestic, $200m international.

137. Daoud - May 9, 2012

@134: I hope that Giacchino has the “Courage” to also include some of Goldsmith’s themes as a tribute, particularly if certain you-know-whats appear. Also, musical cues from appropriate TOS episode.

@135: Argggggh, we need an ARG badly! :)

@This Thread Is The Thread About Nothing: Plenty of other threads to throw spoilers around on. A shame some people don’t read the warnings at the top… but many folks start from the bottom and work their way up rather than down from the top. You ever wonder why people do that? I do. Hey, Newman!

138. Basement Blogger - May 9, 2012

136

I bet Giacchino will put the Courage fanfare in. I thought the main theme to Star Trek 2009 was kind of dour. So, I hope he has some heroic space music. I have confidence in him. Love his score for Up, and Ratatouille. He did a great job for the maligned John Carter. Very lush and romantic.

139. Keachick - rose pinenut - May 9, 2012

So the filming wraps on the very date (8 May) that the first Star Trek film is released in cinemas for US and international audiences -7 May for those downunder because we’s *special…;)

MJ – JJ Abrams never wanted to make a 3D movie. The extra time needed for post-production is for the 3D conversion. That’s Paramount’s call. Abrams has no choice but abide by this.

12 months and 6 days to go…

* Speaking of special, when will we downunder get to see People Like Us, Bob and Alex? You can’t put out a great trailer and featurette with piquing people’s interest and desire to see the film. It is time, gentlemen…

140. Craiger - May 9, 2012

I wonder if Trek news about the sequel will now be scarce till premiere day or when the first teaser trailer premiers since JJ kept shooting under wraps I wonder if we really wont have any idea about the synopsis until the teaser trailer or regular trailer? From now until the first teaser will we only get Trek news on old Trek?

141. ToMaHaKeR - May 9, 2012

Here we go, nice and easy now…

142. Commander K - May 9, 2012

I’ve heard that they will be playing a trailer and possible clips at the London Star Trek convention first before anyone else

143. Anthony Pascale - May 9, 2012

and where did you hear that K?

144. Shannon Nutt - May 9, 2012

Paramount should try and get a teaser put in front of GI JOE 2, no matter how short.

145. MJ - May 9, 2012

@126 “There might be another reason, that science fiction in general & space based movies specifically are not popular over there. I watched Star Trek (2009) in Cairo, Egypt & there were just around 25 people in the theater that day !!”

Would you care to explain then how Avatar did over $2B overseas — 3 times the business it did in the states???

146. Keachick - rose pinenut - May 9, 2012

Edit: I meant to say “…and featurette WITHOUT piquing…”

#113 – Who is Keith? or do you mean Karl, as in Karl Urban? BTW, why no pics of my compatriot?

147. MJ - May 9, 2012

@143 Perhaps Lt. Commander J relayed it up the chain of command?

:-))

148. Maltz - May 9, 2012

#72- I like the Ghosttrekkers logo.

Anthony, don’t get rid of that!

149. LizardGirl - May 9, 2012

While I understand that this is a new movie, I do think that they should keep some of the music from 09 (Star Trek, Enterprising Young Men and the Ehru solos). Michael will definitely have to come up with a good theme for the villain and it can’t be associated with the Nero themes of course. But there needs to be a link between 09 and the sequel.

A part of me wants something a little…different, but another part wants the music to sound like Trek (aka: brass instruments, strings and drums). Considering the newness of this particular Trek franchise, they could do a little experimenting with the music–emphasis on little.

150. LizardGirl - May 9, 2012

@Yeah Karl…kind of screwed up my point about these people being known huh? -_-

151. LizardGirl - May 9, 2012

@146 Let’s try this again–
Yes, Karl that’s who I meant….

152. TrekMadeMeWonder - May 9, 2012

I hope JJ is a true Trek fan by now.

He always iimpressed me as being a Star Wars fan, first. It would seem hollow for JJ to direct two Treks and still not fully embrace the genre.

153. Ahmed - May 9, 2012

@145. MJ – May 9, 2012

“Would you care to explain then how Avatar did over $2B overseas — 3 times the business it did in the states???”

Avatar is the exception to the rule, but even with that, look at the international total gross by country & you will see that most of the money came from the usual market, Western Europe, Japan, Russia & China

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=avatar.htm

Japan $186,753,197
China $182,238,768
France $158,261,059
Germany $157,564,785
UK $150,025,197
Russia $117,103,251
Spain $109,992,746
Australia $105,779,507
South Korea $105,485,521

But in the rest of the world, it was a different story, as these countries show:

Ecuador $2,688,596
Egypt $2,286,029
Dominican Republic $1,308,038
Bahrain $896,623
East & West Africa $844,513
East Africa $357,659

Beside Avatar was hyped up as the first true 3D movie, I bet that lot of people went for that reason.

154. MJ - May 9, 2012

@153. Good info — thanks!

155. Jax Maxton - May 9, 2012

Trek should be a winter release. The first one felt like it would have worked in the winter, and I think it would benefit from less competition. I know summer is the “holy grail”, but I miss the big winter release schedule that we used to have, only to see summer turn into a log jam.

156. MJ - May 9, 2012

@155 100% agree!

157. THX-1138 - May 9, 2012

Ooh, ooh!

I can explain why Avatar did better overseas than it did in the states:

The world’s population is 6,840,507,003. Give or take.

The U.S. population is 311,591,917. Give or take.

So the answer is that there are more people in the rest of the world than there are in the United States.

158. AJ - May 9, 2012

One must take into account that 3D and IMAX theaters are still being built overseas as we speak, so the profit pool is moving more and more in the direction of non-US.

It’s critical for Star Trek’s survival to do a proper international launch. ST09 was a disaster in countries where the show was never a factor to begin with (my Russian friends thought it was a new ‘Star Wars’ promotion with Yelchin as the Russian character).

One could say that Cumberbatch adds at least a European element into the franchise, but Trek always did well in the UK (as well as Germany and Austria). “ST: The As Yet Unnamed Star Trek Sequel” is going to need some marketing muscle to make major numbers overseas.

159. Jack - May 9, 2012

Super 8 did a lot better internationally than Trek ’09. So did MI4 (much, mich better). It’s interesting. I wonder what it is.

160. Red Dead Ryan - May 9, 2012

#142.

“I’ve heard that they will be playing a trailer and possible clips at the London Star Trek first before anyone else.”

Wrong, as Commander L has disproven those rumors.

161. Jack - May 9, 2012

PS. Am I the only one here who liked the Trek ’09 score? It’s my favourite, just barely tied with TMP. I don’t think it’s just because I’m a contrarian dick. Loved Eidelman’s score for VI. I’ve always liked Horner’s but I really find his stuff started to really blend together after awhile.

What I liked most about the Trek 09 score is that it never turned into generic background stuff — I was humming the tune the first time I came out of the theater. It has that quality of Williams’s best stuff — you hear a few notes and you instantly know what you’re watching.

Oddly, films like Iron Man, the Avengers, John Carter and even Avatar – I don’t remover really noticing the music enough to hum it on the way out.

What was dour about the score?

162. Craiger - May 9, 2012

What would the sequel have to earn in order for it to be considered a bomb at the box office, which I hope it isn’t but like others have said if it is a bomb that’s it for Trek for a long, long time right? Unless they would try to reboot again on TV since the TV side is separate? However CBS could see if the Trek movie franchise fails why bother with a new series?

163. Craiger - May 9, 2012

Jack I liked the main theme especially when they were using it when Kirk and McCoy saw the Enterprise in spacedock. That scene was awesome!

164. Red Dead Ryan - May 9, 2012

I’ll tell you what, as long as neither William Shatner directs, or Brent Spiner writes, the sequel stands a good chance of being the best Trek film ever.

165. Jack - May 9, 2012

163. Me too.

I liked the way it started with the Paramount stars etc. and then just carried you through to the end.

164. Ha. I’m still hoping the actors had “no mambo, no lame jokes about boobs getting firmer, no talking tricorder, no cute scene where the purportedly emotionless character says ‘hell, damn, poop’ etc unexpectedly (yet, predictably) at a pivotal moment” clauses in their contracts, just to be safe.

Interestingly, as actors, both Spiner and Shatner got pretty hammy/smug when they were trying to be funny.

BTW, I thought the comedy worked pretty well in Trek ’09 — better than how comedy usually works in most Trek movies (which is, usually, not at all). Stuff that, when read in the script, could have inspired cringing (Kirk has giant hands! Spock gets the girl! I got your gun! Scotty.) worked well.

166. Red Dead Ryan - May 9, 2012

Well, I did not like the slap stick “expanding hands and numb tongue” scenes. That was out of place.

The best humor in Trek comes from good character moments. Such as those between Kirk, Spock and McCoy.

167. Craiger - May 9, 2012

RDR I remember the audience laughing at the scene where Kirk looks at Spock kissing Uhura and learning here name. Also at Scotty saying “I like this ship its exciting.

168. Ryan P - May 9, 2012

I really have to wonder why they want to wait until 2013 to release this film… I think it could do very very big business around Christmas time….

There’s also something to be said about having too much time to mess something up.. Sometimes the best work gets done with more time constraints in place…

I wonder if Paramount execs aren’t wondering, hmm, why wait this long???

169. Craiger - May 9, 2012

I still wonder if the momentum and buzz from the first film has worn off and any new fans that Trek got has forgotten about the last movie and wont go see the sequel.You don’t really hear any new fans that like the first movie inquiring about the old series and movie and wanting to buy or rent them. Or wanting to buy any other Trek merchandise. Also their was never any demand for a new Trek TV series from any new fans that it got saying this Star Trek is cool why isn’t their any new Trek TV Series out now?

170. Ahmed - May 9, 2012

@166. Red Dead Ryan – May 9, 2012

” Well, I did not like the slap stick “expanding hands and numb tongue” scenes. That was out of place.

The best humor in Trek comes from good character moments. Such as those between Kirk, Spock and McCoy.”

Agreed, I didn’t that scene at all. And let not talk about Scotty’s little sidekick whom I hope will not see again FOREVER.

171. P Technobabble - May 9, 2012

Movie music is of great interest to me and, as a sci-fi fan I tend to pay more attention to those kind of scores. Like most people, I have to agree that Goldsmith’s score for TMP was the best — and I’d be willing to bet the other Trek composers feel a little envious over that masterpiece. I think the TMP score was the best because it pumped whatever emotion or intensity that movie had. Much as I like TMP, it was a pretty flat movie and would have suffered greatly without that music.

172. Red Dead Ryan - May 9, 2012

TMP has the best score, but it only narrowly beats TWOK, TSFS, TFF, TUC, and FC. Trek ’09 had a good score, but doesn’t quite reach those heights achieved by the other scores.

The only two scores I didn’t like were “Nemesis” and “The Voyage Home”.

173. Jack - May 9, 2012

170. Hmmm. That’s all stuff (Keenser, the hands) that would normally bug the heck out of me. Not sure why I enjoyed it. I think Pine did a pretty great job with what he had to work with. The way it was played and Pine’s reaction (and the back and forth with Bones) was where the comedy was, not in the big hands themselves (whereas, TNG might put the focus on the hands as the joke — hey, look, he has big hands!).

I liked Keenser — Trek rarely feels alien enough so it was nice to see, well, alien aliens. I don’t want Keenser, the motion picture, but I thought it was fun. Again, the interplay between the guy and Scotty. Hell, maybe the guy’s a freakin’ genius – so there could still be some fun there.

I’m hoping these guys continue to do what feels right (to hammily quote their own script) and not worry about pleasing us, which is impossible.

174. Commodore Adams - May 9, 2012

I am just reeeeealy hoping for a teaser with one of the summer movies.

175. Keachick - rose pinenut - May 9, 2012

How were the giant hands and numb tongue out of place? Kirk had been given a vaccination and as Dr McCoy explained – he had never seen such a violent reaction as Kirk’s since med. school. That is not unprecedented for Kirk as I believe that Kirk’s unusual reactions to some medications etc has been mentioned in a previous Star Trek.

Have none of you had an allergic reaction to something? Yes, some reactions can be as shown in the movie. Although the scene was no doubt written for some comic value (good old slapstick), showing such a scene was definitely not out of place. Numb and/or swollen tongues can definitely be a symptom as can swollen extremities. If Dr McCoy had not been there to deal with the numb tongue, Kirk could have DIED.

I got a bee sting once. My foot blew up to the size of Kirk’s hands – for REAL!
And my son went into anaphyllactic shock after being given a tetanus vaccination…who knew that could happen (not us), but it did. Luckily he was at a Medical Centre where they could administer adrenalin…

176. MJ - May 9, 2012

I guess I am in the minority in loving the MG score for the movie. I thought it was right up there with Horner (my favorite: Trek II), and with TMP (Goldsmith).

177. Azrael - May 9, 2012

If they released Trek this winter it would be competing with The Hobbit, and based off the preformance of the LOTR movies, I doubt that is a match up Paramount wants to try.

178. danielcraigsmywookiebitchnow - May 9, 2012

176 Not only that but the last time trek went up against a movie featuring hobbits, it resulted in the first Trek movie to not make its production budget back.

179. danielcraigsmywookiebitchnow - May 9, 2012

172 what was wrong with Nemesis’s score, its a great classic Jerry Goldsmith film score. or do you just not like it cause of your disliking of nemesis in general.

180. Anthony Pascale - May 9, 2012

Until the movie has some kind of official artwork, the GhostTrek2 logo stays. It’s just a bit of fun, so endure it for a few more months

181. Ahmed - May 9, 2012

@180. Anthony Pascale – May 9, 2012

“Until the movie has some kind of official artwork, the GhostTrek2 logo stays. It’s just a bit of fun, so endure it for a few more months”

I actually like that GhostTrek2 logo.

@177. Azrael – May 9, 2012

“If they released Trek this winter it would be competing with The Hobbit, and based off the preformance of the LOTR movies, I doubt that is a match up Paramount wants to try.”

Yep, I was thinking before that winter release will be better, then I remembered that The Hobbit is coming out this year!

If only there was a Trek series now, it would have made the wait a lot better.

182. JRT! - May 9, 2012

I seriously doubt that the Star Trek London convention will get any clips or a trailer before anyone else. Most likely there’ll be something at Comic Con in July,like the article says.

I’m still hoping the rumours a while back are just that,rumours. Yeah,still not happy,lol!

J-R!

183. The Red Shirt Diaries - May 10, 2012

I still don’t understand why they feel that summer is the best time for the release. They could easily have this ready for realease after Thanksgiving. Why would they think opening with all the summer competition would make the film earn more?
James Cameron intentionally releases all his films at Christmas so he doesn’t have the summer competition to deal with.
This strategy has given him the 2 highest grossing films of all time in Avatar and Titanic, both released at Christmas.
Also, the highest grossing Star Trek film, adjusted for inflation, is still Star Trek The Motion Picture released over Christmas holiday.
So why the “must release in summer” philosophy JJ, Mr. Orci et al?
You have plenty of post production time for a Christmas release with less competition and a higher gross. Why would the studio not want that?
Bump it up and make it so.

184. Phil - May 10, 2012

I’m guessing the release date was set by the studio, not the production staff.

185. Red Dead Ryan - May 10, 2012

Remember, release dates are subject to change. The sequel could be moved ahead or back a few weeks. Or it could stay in the same release date slot.

186. Anthony Pascale - May 10, 2012

As i have stated many times, the date was a studio decision.
SUPER 8 did cause the delay in Star Trek, but really it only pushed the schedule back about 4-5 months. Once JJ was done with SUPER 8 and came back from vacation last summer the team went right into work on Trek, giving the studio the option for Holiday 2012.

So you will have to ask Brad Grey and Rob Moore. But remember that Star Trek is just part of their portfolio, so they look at the dozen or so films they had in development at the time and move them around to the dates they feel they will get the most bang for the buck, relative to their other projects. Apparently Trek was the best project they had for an early summer 2013 release. That is the same calculus they made last time after the WGA strike ended.

As a Trek fan we of course wish they chose Holiday 2012, but what can we do? Hopefully their calculus is right and Trek will do better in the summer of 2013.

187. MJ - May 10, 2012

@182 Dude, I thought Anthony banned you from the site?

188. MJ - May 10, 2012

Never mind, that was JTD…argh…I need to get some more coffee.

189. Daoud - May 10, 2012

New from McDonald’s it’s the Star Trek Sequel Wrap.
.
Seriously, though, I wonder what kind of tie-ins there will be with the film. I was rather underwhelmed with the products available for ’09.
.
@Music…. I also loved Giacchino’s score for 2009. It was dark and moody, just like this version of Kirk. Now that Kirk has been “straightened out”, I’d want to see 2013 have more “classic” TOS-like music. If MG can evoke some of the TOS themes, that would be great. Save the movie era type music for the threequel.

190. JRT! - May 10, 2012

LOL! Yeah,was kinda wondering why I’d be banned,lol! Don’t post often but when I do I always try to be nice,lol! Get your coffee! ROFL!

Have fun y’all! J-R!

191. John - May 11, 2012

Wow post production is a whole year now on these big spectacle films!!!

192. Christopher Roberts - May 11, 2012

I don’t know about London Star Trek Con myself – getting exclusive trailer footage.

Strikes me as a VERY good idea. Ready made audience in attendance. Excited after meeting all the other Captains (hopefully). Paramount pushing for good word of mouth outside America. Turnout for Star Trek (2009) in Europe was lower than they expected… unless I’m mistaken.

193. The Red Shirt Diaries - May 13, 2012

Still makes no sense Brad Gray or other decision makers. Make a a boat load of money over Christmas or hold to summer with major competition. Explain the logic please.

194. Azrael - May 14, 2012

@193. The competition is bigger over christmas time. Remember the Hobbit is coming out this christmas, if they put Trek up next to Hobbit it will fail, nobody wants that. Remember the first LOTR made enough money to pay for making all three films in the series, and anticipation for the Hobbit is very high, it makes much more sense to release in the summer.

195. JZ - May 15, 2012

Wow I get a boner in thinking about a Khan character in the movie. Ricardo Maltaban did an awesome job in STII. Probably the best movie in the franchise.

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