First Images from ‘Where No Man Has Gone Before’ Remastered

That’s by far the best work I’ve seen from CBS Digital.

I like that barrier shot, as well as the vega station but is it changed? Is it done like the castle in menagerie where it wasn’t changed too much, looks like it did in the original?

Allright, looked over at trekcore…nice subtle improvements! :)

Well, the barrier in Star Trek V was at the CENTER of the galaxy. The one shown here, in WNMHGB is at the EDGE of the galaxy. Why would anyone be so silly as to compare the FX of the two anyway? One’s a movie from 17 years ago, the other is a CG remastered TV episode.

I can’t wait to see these shots in motion. So far, CBS-D has done fantastic work, I give them a lot of credit for being ambitious with this epic episode.

I think those look fantastic! This is one of my favorite episodes.

As for redoing the fx in ST:V…. ummmm… no, I think we should just forget that film ever happened.

#10 Agree, Star Trek V stinks no matter what they do to it.

But, I have to say that the galactic barrier in this photo looks fantastic. The original galactic barrier didn’t look like something that could happen naturally in space as where this new shot looks much more believable. I have a theory that the galactic barrier is a massive magnetic/gravitational field that draws you in towards it the closer you get, that is why you simply cannot “fly over it”. Does that work for everyone??? ;-)

I had a feeling they would only tweak the Lithium Cracking station in this episode, the original was just fine.

10, 12 – Okay, Trek V was flawed. But the movie still deserves better special efects than it got. And changing the finale back to Kirk fighting the rock monsters would be cool, as opposed to the god head zapping him with death beams from its eyes.

Weighing in with the negative. Man, I HATE being negative! ;-)

I’m thinking the galactic barrier should look more like the aurora borealis than a nebula. At least that’s what it reminded me of in the original version. Lines of corruscading energy versus fibrous candy floss.

Did they do a bottom-up CGI re-do of the station on Delta Vega, or did they just tweak the original painting? It looks like a tweak job. I love that original painting, but it might have been nice for it to get the digital matte treatment, with its better perspective and suchlike. The perspective on this image is wanky. I really enjoyed the job they did on Starbase 11 and Scalos.

Change this! Don’t change that! Boy, what is it with us hard-to-please fanboys?! I hate being a hard-to-please fanboy! Won’t somebody help me?

Carry on, CBS Digital; you’re doing a wonderful job despite my needling.

Scott B. out.

17 – Mea culpa. I guess I can only remember one totally nonexistent galactic barrier at a time.

Star Trek V’s effects still deserve updating, though.

I think it’s pretty hard to judge scale without a common frame of reference. How can you know how big the barrier is? It’s not fair to judge CBS by this image. The barrier dosen’t have an object in it to tell you how big it is.

Give CBS a break till we see this this weekend! I think it looks quite good. Whose to know also what a Galactic Barrier is suppose to look like. Spock says the sensors don’t sense energy or matter, negative density and no radiation. It could look like anything!

By the way, I have a theory to explain why the Barrier looks like a thin band. When you look at a Galaxy on edge, it looks like a thin long elliptical object. Perhaps the matter or photons of the barrier just looks like a thin band as it wraps around the edge.

I think the Delta Vega Cracking station looks terrific. It’s a cleaned up verison of the original. In keeping with the past effort of the Starbase seen in Mengerie, they are maintaining the basic design and style of the original and adding a lot more detailing and lighting.

Has anyone else noticed that USA Network plays Star Trek V with all of the continuity gaffs and the fart jokes removed? Even then, it’s a weak movie. And it’s not because the special effects weren’t special enough. It was because they insisted on a plot that left you with a “Who cares?” feeling. Find God on just one planet? Galactic Barrier or no, that’s just so dull. ST XI (yes, there is a point to my tirade) MUST focus on relationships and cool stuff, but NOT try to resolve eternal struggles of mankind. Trek is at its best when it’s about people, not BEMs, sfx, or Salt Vampires.

ps- If the Barrier were that bright, we’d see it from Earth. We can see quazars a buhzillion light years away. It’s fun fiction, but it hardly matters which direction they take the art. We’ll only believe it when Kirk and company react to it.

I have been impressed and excited by most of the CBS team’s work, but I am disappointed by these two shots from “Where No Man Has Gone Before.” The Delta-Vega painting looks like a painting. I always thought the original was embarassing because it looks like a painting, but told myself “They didn’t have the budget.” Now in 2007 it still looks like a painting, not like a realistic setting.
The Galactic barrier is pretty but looks like a cloud, and I agree it looks beautiful but not menacing. The original actually was more dramatic with its sparks of energy emanating from it (at least until one realizes you can go over or under the thing). And I agree with the post that in “The Corbomite Maneuver” and this episode that a big opportunity is lost without a sense of scale. The normally big Enterprise being dwarfed by the larger Fesarius or Galactic barrier would make a much bigger dramatic impact.
Don’t want to be critical -I am grateful for the remastered episodes and generally pleased with the work (including the new Enterprise model) but I want to point out my disappointments in the spirit of constructive criticism.

The original Starbase painting in “Menagerie” was pretty weak and needed replacing, and it WAS replaced. Delta Vega was a cool painting to begin with and only needed a little touchup.

Cool is one thing…fake is another. Let’s face it…all the matte paintings in TOS were great…AS PAINTINGS.

But when trying to make things (at least I assume that’s the goal with CBS D) more realistic — why not replace them all?

That’s all I am saying.

I’m happy to know that since this is a first season episode, the title theme music won’t be having the annoying opera singer above the fray. Also it should have a different musical orchestration from other first season episodes for the titles.

I just won a STV re-edit DVD on ebay which is supposed to cut out parts and redo the movie to make it better. We’ll see.

and they’d have to change the whole 100 decks on the Enterprise thing

Forgot to say, they should cgi Leonard Nimoy’s head on the Spock Baby (Like they did with Wayans in Little Man) and when Sarek says “so human…” Spock should clock him in the head! LMAO!!!!

Now THAT would be worth buying! LOL

Meant to clarify….BABY Spock would clock Sarek in the head…LMAO!!

Both images look good to me! I always liked the original Delta Vega station, and am glad they refrained from needless alterations and instead just went for enhancements. As for the Barrier, it makes no more scientific sense than ESP does, but that need not detract too much from enjoying the episode.

We all know the really big challenge is Doomsday Machine – here’s hoping they’ve had time to invest in those pixels.

I made an edit of Trek 5 once replacing some fx and trying to fix glitches like the deck numbers. What I actually did there was to edit it so they actually climb the ladder the whole way and come to the observation room/transmitter. It worked pretty well and removed the thruster boots which I didn’t really care for, especially in the opening scene where he flies straight down and then is floating horizontally. I also edited that out and changed McCoy’s line from “You should have been killed when you fell of that mountain” to “You should have fell off that mountain”.

I wanted to go back and redo it better but haven’t yet.

#41: Cool. But can MS Paint do it on shots where the camera moves?

43- You have a point, but in a way doesn’t that make Star Trek V a perfect candidate for a retouch? If it were a classic film there’d be a ton of fans saying don’t alter a thing.

Star Trek V’s effects were terrible even on the day it premiered. Changing them and doing a few other alterations might help make it watchable.

I am fine with the matte… it was never wrong. And although I don’t really see what CBS-D will or won’t “fix” by rule… I think they have hit their stride.
The barrier is far better and if you dislike it… what should it be then? Brick? A Q-like grid? Shiny and reflective? I always considered it as the Shock-wave from the movement of the galaxy through intergalactic space… sounds romantic anyway. And if it were all-encompassing… it WOULD be visible from earth and blot out our view of other galaxies. I guess I am not as easily offended as some.

I have a feeling we will see bolts of lightning or huge flahes of energy while the E goes through it. The picture tells only part of the story.

CBS-Digital is going to surprise us here. When it’s all said and done the barrier will have death written all over it.