Last night’s episode of Star Trek: Discovery answered a few questions, but raised a few as well. Today on Twitter and last night on After Trek some of those questions have been answered. We have highlights below.
They didn’t eat Mirror Saru
TrekMovie’s review of last night’s episode assumed that the Kelpien Burnham and the Emperor ate was just some random slave, but enough fans here and elsewhere came away thinking it was Mirror Saru for us to pose that question to the screenwriter for “Vaulting Ambition,” Jordon Nardino. He made it clear that Mirror Saru was not on the menu.
This was most definitely not Saru! They were from the Emperor’s personal, uh, collection. The only people who came to the Charon from Shenzhou are Lorca and Burnham. https://t.co/2mp4Jd8Z5A
— Jordon Nardino (@jnardino) January 22, 2018
There was also a video package on After Trek which revealed that in the Mirror Universe, Kelpien are “one of the finest and rarest delicacies.”
Lorca needed Burnham to get to Emperor
On After Trek, Nardino also confirmed that Mirror Michael Burnham is dead and said more would be revealed about her and her relationship with Lorca in the next episode. But he did provide some insight into their relationship:
Mirror Lorca and Mirror Michael had some kind of relationship, but he wasn’t that invested in her emotionally…It was more the opportunity. She was the key to the palace. Lorca could not got on board that ship without [her].
Emperor Georgiou used historic hyperbole with Roman connection
Responding to another question on Twitter, Nardino posted a series of tweets talking about the Terran Empire related to the Roman Empire:
Lots of discussion in the room about the origins of the Terran Empire. In terms of canon, as always, it’s what’s on screen and nothing more. Unanswered questions leave avenues for future seasons / iterations of Trek to explore.
I do not know if MU’s “point of departure” is a specific incident, or the entire history of the MU somehow darkly mirrors ours. Canon locks us into an origin no later than the 20th century. Georgiou’s “millenia” could be construed as hyperbole.
But I firmly do not believe the Terrans are merely a continuation of the Roman Empire. MU earth history should roughly (but darkly) mirror our history as much as possible. I think Rome never falling would diverge too much.
Leaders with imperial pretensions have adopted the styles and titles of the Romans since… well… the minute Rome “fell”! Napoleon took the title Augustus. So it’s natural the Terrans looked back to Rome too.
Emperor Georgiou is connected to Empress Sato
Later in the evening, Nardino did another Twitter thread, this time about the Emperor’s many titles and her connection to Empress Hoshi Sato (from Star Trek: Enterprise):
“All Hail her most Imperial Majesty, Mother of the Fatherland, Overlord of Vulcan, Dominus of Kronos, Regina Andor, All Hail Philippa Georgiou Augustus Iaponius Centarius.” But what’s it mean??!?
When we began digging into the Terrans last year, I had just read a newer history of Rome and was excited to use it as inspiration. (SPQR by Mary Beard, check it out.) Here’s some of the titles Roman Emperors used: [LINK]
So into her titles: – Father of the Fatherland is easy, we turned that into Mother of the Fatherland (even tho we de-gendered Emperor, it felt right) – Overlord of Vulcan: an early conquest of the Terrans, they see themselves as their protectors. It’s paternalistic / delusional.
– Dominus of Kronos: Terrans are very proud of conquering Qo’noS. Dominus is a harsher title the Emperor at the time took as a result (and Georgiou kept for herself). “We OWN them.” Qo’noS mispronounced out of cultural chauvinism.
– Regina Andor: Andoria is a jewel in the Terran crowd. Subjugated warrior race. Early Terran conquest, pre-Sato. The title was created to celebrate this achievement. Now as for Georgiou’s many names…
“Philippa Georgiou Augustus Iaponius Centarius” Philipa Georgiou: her given name and her family name, just like Prime. Augustus: the Terrans see themselves as inheritors of the Roman Empire so their Emperors take the title of its first Emperor.
Iaponius is Latin for Japanese. This (in my fever dream) is a title Hoshi Sato adopted when she named herself Empress, to honor her homeland. “So is Georgiou descended from Hoshi!?” Well…
Hoshi was Empress. 100 years later, Georgiou is Emperor. Georgiou took one of Hoshi’s titles as her own to connect them. So Hoshi’s legacy as Empress must be good and Georgiou must either be connected to her in a chain of succession or might want to create that connection…..
But they have different ethnic backgrounds. Hoshi is Japanese, Philipa is Chinese-Malaysian. So I don’t think it’s likely Philipa is a direct descendant like a great-grandchild. Cousins is possible. More likely tho…
…whoever inherited Hoshi’s throne was someone she adopted as a child & heir, the way most Roman emperors did. And that Emperor adopted his/her heir, and so on, until we get to Georgiou. And she is proud of the connection and flaunts it with the title Iaponius. But…
…it’s not canon until it’s on screen so that’s just one writer’s opinion. As for Centaurius, I figured it was the first system colonized by the Terrans since it’s closest to Sol so it was a title the Emperor at the time took in tribute. Hope someone found this informative!
Burnham keeps Georgiou’s badge on her
On After Trek, Nardino clarified that Michael Burnham didn’t bring Capt. Georgiou’s badge to the ISS Charon in case she needed it to prove she wasn’t from the MU, adding:
It was just a sentimental item. It was something that meant a lot to her from the destruction of the Sarcophagus ship when she retrieves it. It was just a nice item we were able to track with the relationship through the very end.
Toy fidget spinner inspired Emperor’s killer device
Nardino also talked about how they came up with the flying disc she used to keep her top Lords silent. You can watch that bit below.
Mirror Stamets won’t be helpful with mycelial problem and is just a lonely guy
When asked on After Trek if the Mirror Stamets would be able to help out now the USS Discovery’s supply of space fungus was dead, actor Anthony Rapp revealed they were on their own:
I don’t think I can count on Mirror Stamets to do anything. No, that is a real problem that is going to require some ingenuity.
Rapp was also asked if Mirror Stamets had someone to take care of him like Tilly, and he said he did not, noting:
I think Mirror Stamets is sad and lonely. There is no Hugh [Culber]. He is like what regular Stamets could have become had he not met Hugh. I think that Stamets can get totally caught up in his work and may have a friend, but that is Mirror Stamets’ life. He is totally locked away.
Rapp also noted that following the events of the last few episodes, his Stamets will “absolutely” be closer to Tilly, noting how it is all part of the “little steps that we take for all of our characters going forward to plant really wonderful seeds, that will hopefully bear fruit in season two and beyond.”
Stamets and Tyler are going to deal with death of Culber
Actor Anthony Rapp discussed an upcoming scene where Stamets is going to have kind of reconciliation with Tyler, who (as Voq) killed Hugh, saying:
I’m not sure if it is next week. There is a really cool moment between [Stamets and Tyler] and when I read it in the script I was really [puts his hand on his heart], I was really satisfied. On a serialized show, there are so many balls in the air…It is a complicated thing in so many ways and I feel they were able to encapsulate it this small scene. And all of that stuff, in a very compact little piece and I was really appreciative of it.
Frakes says Lorca didn’t fit Roddenberry’s vision (nor did DS9)
As a guest on After Trek, former TNG star and director Jonathan Frakes talked about the character of Captain Lorca, now revealed to be from the Mirror Universe, and how he never really fit in:
Frakes: It violates Roddenberry’s prime directive. He continually violates what is the premise of what the original show was and what we tried to hold on to [on The Next Generation], which sort of slipped away in Deep Space [Nine]. That is one of the things that fans are reacting to. The canon of the show is so strict in terms of…and Lorca is frankly not behaving, as a Starfleet captain that we know.
After Trek also had a package featuring some of the hints all season long at Lorca was from the Mirror Universe. Check it out below.
Frakes thinks TNG should have cast a man as Riker’s love interest in “The Outcast”
Talking about the inclusion of a same-sex couple (Stamets and Culber) on Discovery, Next Generation star Jonathan Frakes said it was “about time” for Star Trek, lamenting on how it took the franchise until the 21st century to do it. He then talked about a missed opportunity for TNG back in 1992:
Sadly, we did an episode called “The Outcast” where Riker is set to a planet of androgonous people. And clearly the person who fell in love with Riker, and vice versa, should have been played by a man, but the studio didn’t have the guts to cast a man.
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