Review: ‘The Orville: New Horizons’ Winds Down The Season Quietly In “Future Unknown”

“Future Unknown”

The Orville, Season 3 (New Horizons), Episode 310
Written and Directed by Seth MacFarlane

While the Orville picks up an asylum-seeker from a familiar planet, several crew-members’ relationships take significant steps forward. The Claire/Isaac relationship, Bortus and Klyden’s marriage, and even the Ed/Kelly dynamic get significant screen time, and there are important bits for Gordon and Lamarr. After a slam-bang action movie of an episode that seemed more like a traditional season finale, this episode is a quiet 81 minutes that is mainly conversation. It brings a sense of satisfaction to certain character threads that have occupied much of the three seasons of the show, but does at times feel like a collection of “B” stories in search of a central plot to carry them forward.

Lt. Talla Keyali (Jessica Szohr), Dr. Claire Finn (Penny Johnson Jerald), and Issac (Mark Jackson)

IF YOU DECIDE TO READ FURTHER, YOU WILL BE SILENT! NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT SPOILERS. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

Easy as 1, 2, 3…

Classic television writing from the last few decades, including the Berman/Braga era of Star Trek, has utilized an episode construction with a central plot A-story, accompanied by a character-focused B-story (and maybe a C too), usually tied in thematically with the main story. This tried-and-true method works well with the A-story driving the episode and giving  it a sense of direction. But “Future Unknown” faced a difficult challenge: how do you do a season finale following the Sturm und Drang and galactic stakes of “Domino”? Last week, I speculated that they might set up another season with a time travel episode, perhaps with a cliffhanger. Instead, Seth MacFarlane opted to focus on the season’s remaining character threads, playing it safe in case the series is not renewed. (Which, by the way, #RenewTheOrville, Hulu and Disney!)

The result is an episode that has a lot of great, satisfying moments, but doesn’t have a strong, forward-moving core that drives the story. With some shows, the characters are so interesting that you’d be happy to watch a full episode of them just sitting around, talking about stuff. To the extent that you feel that way about The Orville, you will like this episode. To the extent that plot and big ideas are what draw you to the show, you will be disappointed.

All about love girl, all about love…

If this episode does have an “A-story,” it’s the Isaac and Claire Finn relationship. The episode opens with Isaac going about his day aboard ship, to the sounds of the 1961 Oscar-nominated Henry Mancini song, “Bachelor in Paradise.” He walks the hallways, he fiddles with controls, he replicates a banana to give to Claire, all while the singer tells him to beware, that the lady wants something more from him. Along the way, we see Isaac propose to Claire, we see her deliberations, her acceptance, the bachelor and bachelorette parties, and the episode ends with Gordon singing a song at their wedding. So that’s the through-line for the show.

This relationship has been the most interesting in the show’s three seasons, and it’s good to have extensive time inside this process here. Isaac is spurred to propose after watching Bortus and Klyden renew their vows, Moclan-style, with a nearly-naked pursuit and tackle through a forest. He is derailed by some character-appropriate advice from John Lamarr, which leads to Isaac propositioning Kelly awkwardly, and to an amusing verbal beat-down from Claire to Lamarr, before getting back on track for the eventual nuptials.

Happily, there are fun moments along the way, like when a drunk (again!) Kelly, Claire, and Talla ask for a sober Ed’s opinion about the proposal (“You have been useful, sober man. You may go now” is the best line of the episode). Later, when Claire asks for Ed’s opinion on her wedding dress, he is less useful. Isaac inviting the entire Kaylon race as guests to the wedding, and all that follows is also pretty hysterical, and the debate about whether Bortus or Gordon should give the best man’s speech at the wedding is also quite amusing.

Sadly, we get to watch large portions of the bachelor and bachelorette parties, which I always find awkward, awful, and unfunny on television shows, but showrunners never seem to tire of. Perhaps I’m an outlier here, but I could go my whole life without ever seeing another bachelor party on screen, and be none the poorer for it.

Bottom line, this is an enjoyable, light story that would make an excellent B-plot in an episode, but doesn’t seem to have the strength to be the load-bearing structure in a science fiction story.

Lt. Cmdr. Bortus (Peter Macon)

Lies, oh, lies…

The B-story that actually serves as the B-story in this episode is a return to Sargus 4, the planet from season one’s “Majority Rule.” In that episode, we learned that the Sarguns entire government is based on up-voting or down-voting other people’s behavior on a planetary scale. There, John Lamarr was captured on video dry-humping a statue of an important historical figure and is put on trial, barely escaping with his life thanks to the help of a Sargun native named Lysella, a barista whose help the crew enlists, even bringing her aboard the ship.

In “Future Unknown,” Lysella contacts the Orville via a stolen commscanner, asking for asylum. While Kelly helps her to acclimate to life in the Planetary Union, we get to listen in on the history of the Union, on the rationale behind the Union’s version of Star Trek’s Prime Directive, and on some of the Union’s significant missteps in their contacts with developing worlds. These are all interesting bits, helping to explicitly establish what has been mostly implicit until now in the show.

When Lysella doesn’t agree with the Union’s principles, and attempts to return home with stolen plans for advanced Union tech that she hopes will help heal her planet’s social divisions, the discussions along the way form the intellectual core of the episode. This thread is the “big idea” thread of the show. It is interesting, and helps strengthen our understanding of the larger culture of the Planetary Union, but all of it was alluded to earlier in the show’s three seasons, robbing this storyline of any powerful revelations. This is the sci-fi story of the episode, but it is not strong enough to function as an A-story.

Commander Kelly Grayson (Adrianne Palicki) and Lysella (Giorgia Whigham)

I’m gonna teach you how to sing it out…

As with many episodes of The Orville, this one is underpinned by music. The opening is established with “Bachelor in Paradise,” Bortus sings some Elvis tunes in the middle (wait, so can he sing well, or can’t he?), and Gordon ends the episode with a beautiful guitar rendition of James Taylor’s 1977 “Secret O’ Life.”

Bottom line? For me, the sum of this episode did not exceed the total of its parts. While the quiet, conversational tone was a good change of pace from the “action movie every week” frenzy of season three overall, these various threads were not enough to form a cohesive story for me. It’s a worthwhile episode in a season where every episode has been at least okay and many have been exceptional.

Klyden (Chad L. Coleman), Topa (Imani Pullum), Lt. Cmdr. Bortus (Peter Macon), Cmdr. Kelly Grayson (Adrianne Palicki), Capt. Ed Mercer (Seth MacFarlane), Lt. Gordon Malloy (Scott Grimes), Issac (Mark Jackson), Ty Finn (Kai Wener), Dr. Claire Finn (Penny Johnson Jerald), Marcus Finn (BJ Tanner), Lt. Talla Keyali (Jessica Szohr), Lt. Cmdr. John LaMarr (J. Lee), and Lt. Alara Kitan (Halston Sage)

COOL BITS

  • Isaac presenting Claire with a banana is an ongoing gag that got its start in season two’s “A Happy Refrain.”
  • Bortus says that the Moclan renewal ceremony, the Kazh’gahl, will be performed “fully bare, thus unified with our natural surroundings, as we were at birth” but he and Klyden actually wear a metal-studded leather g-string that looks quite uncomfortable.
  • During the Kazh’gahl, Klyden throws a rock at Bortus in what may be a visual reference to Star Trek’s “Arena.”
  • Once again, Claire discusses details of her treatment of a patient with someone, proving that the Planetary Union does not have HIPAA laws.
  • The drinking scene between Talla, Kelly, and Claire is a good one, but it leaves the problem of Kelly’s alcohol addiction unresolved.
  • Gordon revisits the question of playing music on the bridge while on-shift, a topic that he first raised in an earlier episode that I have been unable to track down – anyone remember? Let me know in the comments.
  • I liked that Ty and Marcus were watching the ship leave orbit when Claire entered their quarters – I would watch it too, every time.
  • The sequences in the simulator are breathtaking, as always.
  • The reappearance of the egg salad sandwich was expected, but appreciated, and the discussion. surrounding it was fantastic – and establishes that this episode takes place exactly three months after “Twice in a Lifetime.”
  • Hallston Sage appears as Alara Kitan during the wedding in a cameo that was kept secret by delaying her credit until the close of the show; I was glad to see her.
  • The Kaylon guests at the wedding, with their synchronized movements, had a very Star Wars, Imperial Stormtroopers vibe.

Dr. Claire Finn (Penny Johnson Jerald) and Lt. Alara Kitan (Halston Sage)

NOTABLE QUOTABLES

  • “You won’t age. I will. Someday I’ll be gone, and you’ll still be here, unchanged. My death is an inevitable human reality. What will you do then?” “Perhaps I will select a new companion. And of course, I will continue to monitor the well-being of your offspring.” Claire, on the receiving end of Isaac’s sweet-talking ways.
  • “I’ve lost two friends this past year because they said or did things that the Feed didn’t like. Everyone’s scared and paranoid because nobody trusts each other. And the only time anyone feels like they belong to something larger than themselves is when they’re part of a mass downvote. They can’t come together unless they’re targeting somebody.” Lysella, explaining Twitter culture.
  • “You still don’t get the whole ‘small ship’ thing, do you, Mom?” Marcus Finn.
  • “Isaac? The answer is yes.” “Acknowledged. I will begin to make the appropriate preparations.” Claire and Isaac.
  • “Good morning, Commander. I wish to become intimate with you. If you are unoccupied, may we go on a date, followed by sexual conjugation?” “Pretty good, how are you?” Isaac and Kelly.
  • “Lamarr! You and I need to have a chat. My soon-to-be husband is very impressionable. I assumed someone as smart as you would have deduced that by observation, but apparently not. If you ever again give Isaac a single tidbit of personal advice, even if it’s about what cologne to use, I will come down here and I will eat your little punk ass for breakfast with a glass of grapefruit juice. You got me?” Claire laying down the law.
  • “You want me to be your best man? I’m flattered, but why me?” “All available data indicates that the best man must deliver a public address of a humorous nature. You are regarded by much of the crew as funny.” “I also possess this quality.” Gordon, Isaac, and Bortus.
  • “What is…a marriage?” “It is a ceremony during which one organism acknowledges their intent to service another for the duration of their mutual existence.” “You describe enslavement.” Kaylon Primary and Isaac.
  • “This is a goddamn weird-ass place we work in here, I tell you.” Lamarr.

Dr. Claire Finn (Penny Johnson Jerald), Issac (Mark Jackson), and Lt. Gordon Malloy (Scott Grimes)

And that’s a wrap on New Horizons

For what it’s worth, here is my ranking of season three episodes, with a star rating (out of five):

305, “A Tale of Two Topas” ★★★★★
306, “Twice in a Lifetime” ★★★★★
309, “Domino” ★★★★★
308, “Midnight Blue” ★★★★
307, “From Unknown Graves” ★★★★
304, “Gently Falling Rain” ★★★
301, “Electric Sheep” ★★★
303, “Mortality Paradox” ★★★
310, “Future Uncertain” ★★★
302, “Shadow Realms” ★★

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I have to say, I was howling during Bortus’ toast. By the third “All kidding aside”…

lol Yes, the kids and I greatly enjoyed that. My kids were as excited about the egg sandwich as Gordon.

Yawn. The show has lost its luster for me. But to each their own.

I thought last week was the finale when I saw the video of the janitor turning out the lights on the bridge set. Oh well, now that it is over I hope to get D+ soon to binge watch ObiWan and NH.

I love the show, but this season and the finale did a nice job wrapping up the series and I’m thankful for that. If we never see another season, I’m fine with that.

I agree that they brought this season to a satisfying end… even if that’s what it’ll be for the whole series… but I would NOT be fine with them ending this wonderful show for good, so early.

It’s SO friggin’ enjoyable, and set in such a rich universe. Just like the Trek I fell in love with from the late ’80s to mid-’00s. 😍

#RenewTheOrville #PrettyPlease #WithACherryOnTop

Still loving this show. Hoping for S4.

Same!

Not ready to give up on this love affair!

This episode got better as it went.

Bortus, Klyden and Isaac stole the season finale. I don’t know why they brought back Lysella. Her storyline was pointless. Having said that, I have to admit that I was disappointed with this episode. I kept expecting something to happen and it didn’t. It felt like I was waiting for a rocket to go off but it never did. I assumed that with most of the Caylon at the wedding, their homeworld would have been vulnerable to attack by the Moclans and the Krill. But that didn’t happen. Maybe they’ll do this next season if the show gets renewed.

I believe that Lysella’s storyline proved to be the show’s message to us (parting message, if this should be the end):

We’ll only be ready for a positive and bright future amongst the stars, if we work out our issues with each other, embrace our differences as strengths, unite as one planet, and lift each other up going forward. LLAP 🖖😊

There were some funny moments, but this was easily the weakest episode of the season. There didn’t seem to be any kind of a thematic connection between the A and B stories. The A story didn’t have any real conflict in it, and the B story didn’t really have a proper ending.

Just such a perfect end to the season. Yes it felt a bit disjointed at times but I believe McFarlane wanted to give everyone something to do. Every crew member and even guest star got their time to shine. Same goes for the VFX and Music guys.

it just shows that it was and always has been a show about those characters and as good as domino was, it just wouldn’t feel right as a season finale.

I pretty much agree with the star ratings at the end, though I would put this one up at a five also. Maybe not by itself but in the context it’s easily on par with the best of this season. Also electric sheep should at least get half a star more.

Well said. I also liked this episode a full ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️, as it gave me just what I had been missing a bit more of this season: The humor, fun, and silliness that season two was so good at! And I’d even give “Electric Sheep” a whole ‘nother 🌟.

Also, Dénes, as for your rating table, it’s “Future Unknown,” not “Future Uncertain,” even if that’s 🍅/🍅 (tomayto, tomaahto). 😋

I’m sure Mark Jackson enjoys being out of the costume, but to me there’s something dishonest about having Issac be in “human-face” for the wedding. I felt the same way about their dinner dates. If Claire is that in love and accepting of Issac, she would not mind seeing his actual appearance.
Imagine if the roles were reversed and Issac asked Claire to appear younger or slimmer or taller or another skin color.
Because he has no feelings about it, doesn’t mean she isn’t taking advantage of him.

I noticed that, but for the wedding at least it seems it was his choice. There’s no such thing as a Kaylon wedding, and Isaac really seemed to want to match all the human wedding customs he could. I suppose he could have worn a tuxedo over his real body…

Also, no kissing the bride without lips.

Isaac’s human face is formal wear. Unless you think he should insist Claire be naked during the wedding because that’s her “actual” appearance.

eh, the Moclans already did the “naked” thing in this episode.
maybe it would have been OK if he reverted to his normal Kaylon appearance for the reception.

Except they weren’t naked. I thought they would disrobe and we would get conveniently placed bushes and branches whenever they faced forward. I think the better alien option would have been for them to be in full body suits with nothing resembling human genitals at all. But I guess they had to spend the extra money on all those lengthy establishing shots that went on too long.

I had the same complaint as Aztec until now, but you’re making a pretty good (headcanon-y, in-universe-reasoning) point! 👏🤖

I personally think that this was the weakest episode of the season. Domino would have been a great episode to end the series on. It was powerful and emotional and full of action and great dialogue. The sacrifice Charly made was powerful.
With the final episode, it ignored Charley completely. The way she touched and affected everyone at her memorial would have carried over… or at least been mentioned. The episode had a couple of good lines but overall it was a wash as a supposed series finale. The entire season has been uneven for me with maybe 3 or 4 great episodes and the rest seemed like filler to me. And they all seemed to drag as well… the pacing was awful.
IF they decide to move forward with the season, they should seriously consider doing so without MacFarlane in the lead. I have such a hard time believing him in a serious role. He just isn’t a good actor. I know it’s HIS show… but maybe promote him to Admiral so that he can still do the occasional cameo and have Kelly become Captain. The rest of the crew works well. Scott Grimes is the best thing about the show. A little rejigging like that might make all the difference. But who knows.

Liked this better than Domino. Hoping for S4 and a move away from Krill, Kaylon and Bortus-centric episodes.

This was obviously McFarlane’s “if necessary” series finale, but I really liked it. Well, I liked 80 percent of it. Lysella was not necessary, but as mentioned, it was a way to try and keep some sort of moral/purpose to the episode. But I REALLY enjoyed the Issac and Claire storyline. And the wedding was a perfect ending (in my opinion) if this really is the end. I hope it’s not, but I understand why McFarlane did it. Even knowing he had a strong season in the can, Disney/Hulu has so many other irons in the fire that it may not matter. Here’s hoping the addition to Disney+ is enough to carry through to at least one more season!

Speaking of the season as a whole, I’m going to say something some people will think is blasphemy: The Orville: New Horizons had a stronger overall season than ST: Strange New Worlds. One of the things I thought about several times during SNW’s run is, “if you only have TEN EPISODES, wouldn’t you pull out all the stops and only go with the TEN BEST ideas???” SNW had at least two episodes that just didn’t hit right (“Elysian Kingdom” and “All Those Who Wander”). But, in contrast, I thought every Orville episode was at least good, if not amazing. Yes, some of that had to do with building on previous storylines. But to take a character that almost everyone hated in the beginning (Charley) to making her the season’s hero was quite an accomplishment on top of revisiting some of the past season’s best plot threads. I could go back and rewatch pretty much every Orville: New Horizons episode right now and enjoy it all over again. I don’t think I can say the same for SNW.

Only time will tell if this really was the end, but if so, I’d have to say that the Orville was one of the most entertaining non-Trek-but-more-Trek-than-Trek shows/movies ever made.

I have to disagree. For me, it was the opposite. Maybe 3 strong Orville episodes and all the rest seemed like filler to me. While, in my opinion, SNW had 90% stronger episodes with a couple being just “good”.

Well, and I wholeheartedly agree with your opinion, comparing episode strengths between The Orville and SNW (though, I’d wager that SNW’s second season will be a lot stronger than its OK rookie season). 🤞🙂

Oh, and #RenewTheOrville of course! 🤞🤞🤞

I found both SNW and TO:NH improved as they went along, but ORVILLE had the stronger showing overall, as I only found the first 3 shows to be utter duds, and the last one to be only okay, but liked to loved everything in-between.

SNW’s downer show with the kid ruler was superb and turned me around on the show, but everything that went before it seemed lame to me, and I liked two of the last four quite a lot (not the fantasy show and unfortunately not the BoT rehash, largely due to the Kirk miscasting.)

I’m glad (with misgivings about Kirk and the usual complaints about art direction and VFX and scoring and anachronistic dialog) that we are getting more SNW, but wish we’d get more ORVILLE. Also wish they’d put the latter out on physical media … I dislike the serious overuse of pretty but not credible vfx on ORVILLE, but would really like to own the good ones, regardless of the stuff weighing them down.

BTW, I’ve actually been rewatching old TNGs after ORVILLE, looking at what I assume are the inspirations, like DAUPHIN (for holodeck vistas and some of the Worf-inspired stuff with Bortus) and DATA’S DAY … they’re not any better than I remembered, and in fact they frankly pale. I was never a fan of TNG, but admitted when I liked something they did. But most of those things aren’t TOS- or DS9-level likes, and I’m realizing they never were. Even MEASURE OF A MAN is a little clunky at times, and as much as I like A MATTER OF HONOR, I have to admit it is just mainly for the one scene in the Klingon mess hall … everything else is ‘lesser.’

I would agree but Orville still stumbled plenty. They did have the advantage of not having another show they needed to mind the events of. Orville was free to do what they wanted without any kind of consequence. So I would say it’s a wash. Had SNW not ignored major Star Trek events and characterizations I think they would have had the better season.

Somehow these screengrabs have made the show appear even worse than… every thing else to date. And that’s a a miracle.

A very strong season which ended on a quiet note, something that rarely happens with a season (series?) finale.

Fingers crossed for a 4th season.

🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

I could go my whole life without ever seeing another bachelor party on screen, and be none the poorer for it.”

Same! Right there with you, Denes. I also wish the ceremony had had the phrase “husband and wife” instead of “man and wife,” already outdated by today’s standards.

Kinda hope this is done. It was so good when it started (in season one) – because it felt like decent TNG – not great TNG, but decent. In comparison, it was strong.

But after waiting so long for this season (did we get 8 seasons of Trek shows in between 2 and 3?)
this just didn’t do anything – going back to the same aliens, and then spending a lot time with effects, which didn’t look nearly as good as Discovery or SNW effects. The first show had so much effects scenes drag out it was like watching TMP effects in slow motion.

But I think the biggest issue was coming in as SNW ended. SNW finally hit the right notes, and does the show so much better. And it was different places each week with the continuing stories mostly just becoming the B-story, and not the A-story. Orville kept making the character parts the A-story and the new stuff the B-story, if there was even a B-story.

Hmm, who forced you to watch? 🧐

Perhaps the same people who forced you to make the comment you did?

Of all the space opera I have seen over the years, this show is masterful, in storytelling, scale, scope of set design, and costume, and amazingly detailed crew and species. Seth has done a remarkable job, and it is entertaining, campy when it needs to be, serious when it has to be, and just plain fun. if one cannot see that, plenty of alternatives, to each his own. The amount of effort this show requires for a weekly series is incredible, as it is, after all, episodic television.

Very well said! 🙂👍 Wishing more people would find the show; hoping Disney+ will do the trick!

All in all, while this season wasn’t perfect, it succeeded in making NuTrek look freaking amateur by comparison. It actually makes me mad the more I think about it. This isn’t Star Trek, but it feels like Star Trek. It’s what 21st century Star Trek should be. If we never get another season, I’m happy with what we got. It is infinitely better than what Paramount Plus serves up.

Sad (for Trek), but true. Though, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Without The Orville, we probably would not have gotten LD and SNW! 😉

I seriously doubt that. The Trek plan from the beginning was to do a number of slightly different short season shows. Orville’s existence never played a part in it.

Although I would say that Orville’s first season only showed that doing a Trek-like comedy (even if it was only a partial comedy then) could work. Still hoping one comes out.

I really liked the “lack of A-story” for this episode. By using the whole crew is various stories, I feel like it showed that different things are happening on the ship all the time and not just on a single “story of the week”. Everyone on the crew has lives and friends and responsibilities and this episode really settled into that.

Yes! And it gave us that much needed light humor and fun, feel-good atmosphere back one more time! It felt like a nice bow on top of this present of a season.

After almost giving up on the show after the first 3 eps, which we despised, am pleasantly surprised to report liking the Krill ep and loving the Bortus followup in 5. Don’t think I can recall a series that kept me watching despite such wild swings in quality, except maybe early TNG (which didn’t have much in the way of ‘highs’ at all for me, not that it got tons better in later years either … I only really strongly like s3 of TNG.) Be interested to see how last five eps play out.

I can see the unevenness, though for me it’s mostly the tone and level of humor that fluctuate heavily.

Are you watching AFTER reading these reviews, or going in spoiler-free? Have fun, and let us know how the rest fares for you!

I had lightly perused some of the ORVILLE stuff here, so for the most part I am going in only spoiled for maybe 10% of the stuff at most. I was very surprised at how it seemed like most of the eps seem to reference past shows, which makes this universe feel smaller than it should IMO. Have watched the first 8 now, so record is 5 and 3, since I’ve like everything after the first 3 (though still think most could be cut down a bit, especially the spectacle stuff, which feels very PHANTOM MENACE to me and inappropriate as all get out.)

Have always been a Bortus fan, very much the feel of early Worf (“I don’t understand their humor either” and “nice planet” were two of the few early saving graces of TNG s1 for me), but they’ve gone so far beyond that with relationships, which is pretty terrific.

Due to length and to watching s1 of ONLY MURDERS IN THE BUILDING, am only getting through one a day, so probably won’t weigh in on season till Monday, but am now kinda-sorta wishing the show would get picked up, though if they go out on a high note that’ll also be satisfactory (as much as I hate HBO for not carrying CARNIVALE through, the fact they gave us two seasons still makes me very happy and I rewatch that nearly every year … I don’t know that ORVILLE will merit anything approaching that, but there are at least certain eps I’ll watch again anytime I get a Hulu trial in future (or Dis trial, which I’ll probably need when MANDO airs a new season.)

I see the “small universe” effect too, but I truly LOVED this particularly soap-y aspect on DS9 (where, granted, it was baked into the mostly stationary show). But considering the character growth it provides, I’m OK with it on The Orville for the most part.

And I’m assuming it also has something to do with the limited future the creators are dealing with; meaning that if they were to get a multiple-more-seasons-promise from Disney, they’d probably feel more free to spread their wings and delve into some of the other established and glimpsed races with in-depth storylines (for example following Norm McDonald’s passing, I’d want a Yaphit story where they’re dealing with his splitting up into two entirely new characters, that takes the ship back to their homeworld as well! 🟢🦠), AND to ACTUALLY explore those “New Horizons” as promised!

Isaac-Claire is one of my favorite threads of the series that I was initially afraid was being lost when things went south with the Kaylons, so I was happy to see it given another big spotlight here.

Thank you for your reviews of this season of “The Orville”, Dénes. Your work is the reason I tiptoed back in here.

Although I disagree with your assessment of the season finale, I’ve eagerly looked forward to reading your post episode analyses this summer, and I sincerely hope you’ll be back for season 4. (There IS going to be a season 4, dagnabit!)

The season was terrific! While long, most episodes flowed rather nicely. Orville is so much better than Discovery.

I have not watched the entire season yet but starting. But I was really impressed by the review of season 3 by Jeremy Jahns. I’m sure most people here have heard of him on YouTube but he’s a HUGE classic Star Trek fan, specifically a TNG fan and finally watched this show and came away very impressed. Just thought I link it if you listen to his reviews:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY2bw_nkXUU

Funny how the old Discovery vs Orville silly debate has died out and surprise, people can just like both. I know, ultra shocking. But it sounds like Orville has become a love letter to Star Trek and even people who were initially skeptical of it has come around. Well done Seth!

Over all I loved the most recent season. But the romance issues between Dr. Finn and Issac was massively overused and was quite forced and cringeworthy. There were a couple of other themes that have popped up too many times too.

That romance never felt organic in any way. I agree. It felt amazingly forced. But then, no one in the cast is really all that good an actor. Not saying they are bad. Except for Seth who seems to have zero charisma as a lead dramatic actor. Just that they are merely serviceable at best and not particularly good.

So…seriously? Is everyone just fine with this episode promoting the chasing down of someone and sexually assaulting them?

Even the Gordon character calls it sexual assault in the episode, but everyone on the show, and it seems in real life, is just ok with it.

I do not think that any show or film should show sexual assault in a positive light. Chasing someone down and raping them is never ok.

What is wrong with the world when this is acceptable?

Just because it is “accepted” in Moclan society does not mean it should be lauded as something good.

This is a case of irresponsibility on the part of the writers and showrunner. Namely MacFarlane himself.

Seth MacFarlane has always promoted the “evolution” and “enlightenment” of humans to be better than what we are and then he goes and puts into this episode that it is ok to chase, catch and rape someone.

That is a step backwards if I have ever seen one.

It was indeed inconsistent with their treatment of the Moclans. They were kicked out of the Union for having customs the rest of the Union didn’t like. Yet they were all OK with THAT?

SMDH.

Bring back Halston

Wow. The final episode was the longest and it felt even longer than that.

Once again Grayson displays her incompetency and lack of wisdom. It was awfully obvious the chick was going to go back with future tech. Grayson is terrible officer on every level.

This episode was completely channeling Star Trek Discovery. All the sappiness and idiotic smiling. They were all acting like the Organians the Klingons hated. It was absolutely sickening.

The show got worse as the season dragged on. Seth never became a better actor. And the further into the season we got the more I started hearing Steve Smith whenever Gordon spoke.

Time will tell if they will get picked up again. It doesn’t seem to have been by this writing. Generally these pick ups occur before the end of the existing season. So I thing the longer they go without an announcement the more likely it is the show will not get picked up. And I think it obvious. If it were on Paramount+ I imagine it would. But on more established streaming services with better options available it’s hard to see it happening at this point. If it isn’t, it won’t be missed.

I did enjoy the season finale, but what would have worked better would be to combine “Domino” And “Future Unknown” into one two-part season finale.
They could have begun the two-parter with the successful test of the weapon and the ceasefire between the Union and Kaylon, then led into Bortus/Klyden wedding, then into Isaac/Claire pre-wedding stuff. Have an expansion of the Ted Danson plot to steal the Weapon (which interrupts the pre-wedding stuff) and finish the first part with the Orville finding the secret base and exposing the Krill/Macclan alliance.
Second part could then establish the alliance between Kaylon and Union stuff – leading into the battle and the sacrifice by Charlie. It would have given so much more weight to Charlie’s sacrifice if Isaac was also in danger before his actual wedding. We then have all the final battle action and end with a Wedding/Memorial service for Charlie – Issac and Claire. Personally I would get rid of the sub-plot with Lysella – but with her on board during the battle it may have elevated her “technology” sub-plot a bit.
Two good episodes could have been 1 great one – as the action/drama/comedy could have mixed together really well.

A missed opportunity there Seth.