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The Following Are STILL Not New Movie Enterprise Images May 8, 2008

by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Star Trek (2009 film) , trackback

Earlier TrekMovie.com listed a release of the “full image of the Enterprise” as one of the big Star Trek movie events we can expect in the upcoming year, but today the #3 ranked story on Digg.com is “Could This Be the New Enterprise From Star Trek 11?.” Well for this one, Vreenak doesn’t even need to suit up as the answer is an obvious…no.


The Koerner Strikes Again
Over the last year TrekMovie.com has received countless ‘tips’ over some designs made by digital artist (and Trekkies celebrity) Gabriel Koerner. Through no fault of Gabe’s, his reimingined NCC-1701 has been mistaken for the real thing by fans and even some major websites (like Aint it Cool News). The new Digg article (which itself has been subsequently picked up by some other sites, resulting in a new wave of ‘tips’ to TrekMovie.com) is actually showing one of the Gabe’s old designs. It is one TrekMovie debunked in December after AICN got duped. If someone really wanted to get a ‘leak’ rumor going, they should have picked some of his newer images, which are still pretty cool…check them out (click to enlarge).

More Enterprise designs can be found at Gabe’s site.

Another imagined new Enterprise from Vektor
Gabe isn’t the only one who has imagined a new Enterprise for the new Star Trek. Before the teaser trailer premiered, our old friend Jason ‘Vektor’ Lee (designer of the 2007 ‘Foolerprise‘) has taken a crack at it by creating something more detailed and realistic, while retaining original design elements, even down to “The Cage” era pointy nacelles. (again click to enlarge).

More of Jason’s ‘Conjectural Trek XI Enterprise’ at sci-fi meshes

And another from Dennis Bailey
Dennis Bailey (TNG writer and Starship Exeter CGI artist) also took a crack at a reimagined 1701 by blending the TOS, Phase II and TMP era Enterprises, check it out (again click to enlarge).

Of course these are all just fun designs and none were meant as hoaxes, but that probably wont stop people from sending in tips about all the new Enterprises they find.

For now the only real picture from JJ Abrams Star Trek is of the Enterprise ‘under construction’ but at some point this thing has to fly.


click to enlarge

Comments

1. Harry Ballz - May 8, 2008

I want some news NOW!!!!!

2. john d. - May 8, 2008

mmm hmm

3. Larry - May 8, 2008

it’s a long wait

4. Chaya - May 8, 2008

Real or not they’re still amazing

5. Watchful - May 8, 2008

Definitely a long wait ahead… sigh…

6. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - May 8, 2008

Jason ‘Vektor’ Lee’s design, without the pointy nacelle cap extensions, is the winner for me. Koerner’s designs are too muscular, and Dennis Bailey’s is too drab for my taste.

7. Alex Prewitt - May 8, 2008

500 pics of GI JOE which isn’t even coming out until AUG 09 are out there, but we don’t get crap!! I’m getting really pissed

8. NCC-1701 - May 8, 2008

Just goes to show that the most creative Trek fans can be found on the Trek BBS. ;-)

9. Ensign Ricky - May 8, 2008

This one is still my favorite:
http://www.gabekoerner.com/ent/enterprise_orbit_1080.jpg

Thank goodness for Koerner and his talented counterparts. At least they give us something to chew on while Paramount remains silent.

10. Hat Rick - May 8, 2008

Why do I feel like the only person who is actually somewhat non-unhappy that there’s still a lot more to leak out? Once you’ve seen the Enterprise, it takes away a bit from the anticipation.

It’s like the night before Christmas. Anticipation is half the fun.

11. SPB - May 8, 2008

THEY ALL LOOK DAMN GOOD!!!

Can’t honestly say which one I like the most… they’re all great for different reasons. Koerner’s is the most modern-looking; Vektor’s shows that only minor tweaking to the original designs could still work; and Bailey’s is a nice, geeky nod to TOS, Phase II and TMP.

I’d put any one of these on my desk at work… proudly!

12. Ryan - May 8, 2008

I’ve heard that when someone is suffering from extreme starvation, you cant feed them very much too fast or they will die.

When something comes out after a long while, I hope that’s it’s not too much that it will kill me.

13. M33 - May 8, 2008

Thanks guys for making a statement regarding these conjectural designs! I thought that even if they weren’t it, they are a good tease.

14. hitch1969© - May 8, 2008

DRuss B-Flav is my fave.

Tis mac in the pants.

best!!

=h=

15. Kevin - May 8, 2008

I like Vektor’s. It just looks like a more detailed Enterprise to me, but still looks like the Enterprise.

16. Xai - May 8, 2008

I think we won’t see the good ship Enterprise completely for another 364 days.

17. T2 - May 8, 2008

Hoping all this patience pays off. Nice shots, some of them look better than the one authentic pic we have, but I can’t be completely certain as we are seeing only a piece of the E from one angle, but I agree, we’re gonna need something soon, something to wet our lips again since we’ve got an extra 5 months of waiting.

18. the king in shreds and tatters - May 8, 2008

16.

I have faith in the internet’s ability to find something.

19. Harry Ballz - May 8, 2008

It’s getting to the point where NOTHING will live up to this anticipation!

20. Denise de Arman - May 8, 2008

Thanks for the pics, Anthony. LOVE seeing what some of the incredibly talented fans are doing out there, especially with our beloved E. Must end this now so I can go back and gawk at them some more.

21. DEMODE - May 8, 2008

Jason ‘Vektor’ Lee’s design is by far the best. The others are interesting as federation ships, but they don’t look like the Enterprise to me. Vektor’s design captures the magic of the classic ship, with just the right amount of detail to modernize the ship.

22. demon barber of starfleet - May 8, 2008

I like the first ones. I suspect the movie version will strongly resemble those.

I can tell by the nacelles on the official image though that it’s going to be a bit too souped-up for my tastes. But I’m biased. I’m a borderline TOS purist.

23. MattTheTrekkie (trekkie1415) - May 8, 2008

J.J. Abrams or anyone from ILM? Hire Vector Lee for the new movie effects NOW!!

That is so awesome, At first glance it’s the Enterprise, but when you look closer, so many details pop out, its not even funny!

Daniel Broadway needs to post some pics, I’m itching to see what his E looks like after seeing his fake footage!

24. The winner is... - May 8, 2008

Jason Lee AKA Vektor is the winner.

Sorry, Gabe. Your design fits best with an alternate future timeline (“Yesterday’s Enterprise” style). It is an incredible homage to 1701, but it’s too much, imho. Nothing beats that orbital rendering, though. Brilliant stuff. (Mr. Lee, care to try something akin to that?)

Sorry, Dennis. Your design is flat, which is surprising as I’m a big admirer of your CG work and believe you’re capable of better design work.

Here’s to hoping the ILM team scores with a design mod that superceeds these creations. We’ll see…

25. MattTheTrekkie (trekkie1415) - May 8, 2008

Oh, and Dennis, why not post some pics of your USS Phoenix design? I was actually hoping the movie version looked like that months before the trailer came out. I thought it looked perfect for a prequel!

You’re other ship looks really cool too. It looks like a perfect Phase II ship!

And Gabe Koerner’s designs are awesome too. I’m not sure about the Enterprise, but Captain Tahir needs a ship with ‘muscle’ eh?

26. shat hands - May 8, 2008

The first few images….can anyone see a bit of borg in em?

I can almost see a “meatier enterprise” for JJs trek, and, although Im up for change ….! But now i can see things out of box!……… how about,… before kirk…..before we saw anything……the enterprise was different?!!! arghh!! see what waiting does?!$”^

27. the king in shreds and tatters - May 8, 2008

Vektor’s is pretty damn sweet.

28. Scott Xavier - May 8, 2008

You think JJ is sitting back and just laughing at us all? I hope so. Wheres life without mystery intrigue and magic. I like JJ’s tannens magic story from his boyhood. Makes waiting actually enjoyable, well maybe barable.

29. Hat Rick - May 8, 2008

Gabe’s is very, very good and sort of “Star Trek” meets “Aliens.” I agree that it would be excellent in an alternate timeline — maybe the one next door to “Yesterday’s Enterprise”. It has the same kind of vibe to it.

But, even more than Gabe’s, I like Vektor’s and Dennis’s, and it’s a toss-up between them. I’ve admired both designers for a long time. I won’t say which one I like better — it’s THAT close.

30. girl6 - May 8, 2008

This is what I saw in my childhood dreams, when I closed my eyes and made a wish:

http://www.gabekoerner.com/ent/enterprise_orbit_1080.jpg

31. Buckaroohawk - May 8, 2008

All these fan designs are great, but my favorite is Dennis Russell Bailey’s. I have two of his Enterprise designs in my CGI model library (the USS Phoenix early Constitution design and the TMP Enterprise) and they are, far and away, the finest and most beautifully detailed meshes I’ve seen, Trek or otherwise.

Far from being “flat,” there are subtle details in his designs that only show up when you get in close to the model. They have such a realistic aspect to them that it can be difficult to distinguish them from actual physical models sometimes. And they render pretty darn quick to boot, a big plus for those of us without the luxury of professional render farms.

As has been said earlier here, these fan designs are a lot of fun to see, but I’m going nuts waiting for a photo of the Enterprise from the new movie. Won’t someone working on that film please, PLEASE, for the sake of my fragile sanity, show us what she’ll look like? We trek fans need something to rant about other than oblique quotes and references from the cast.

Come on, J.J., give us the “Big E.” You know it’s the right thing to do.

32. hitch1969© - May 8, 2008

The Vektorprise© is highly impressive.

Nice Job!

=h=

33. Theblob - May 8, 2008

I bet the movie Enterprise wont look as good as some of these fan renderings….

34. hitch1969© - May 8, 2008

I dislike the Gabriel Koerner Vers. I’m sorry Gabe. I think that I went to your site once and saw some videos that you made and I think that I liked them back then. Perhaps the pics here dont truly represent what you are working on.

You know what fellas, who really cares when we’re talking about Sir JJ’s new movie? We all know that it’s gonna be somewhere in between the original, and probably the designs presented in this thread. It’s basically really really close to what we all know and love. Quinto ain’t Nimoy, and Pine ain’t Shatner. And as far as I am concerned, 2008 ain’t 1968.

I love that Roddenberry said that someday people would look back on TOS and compare it to the goings on of the present, and conclude that the new version being done by people he would never meet would be much better than what he did. That to me is effing presence of mind and vision of art.

BEST!!

=h=

35. Biodredd - May 8, 2008

On Dennis’s Enterprise how come the number on the nacelle looks like a NCC-19 (cuts off) instead of NCC-17?

36. hitch1969© - May 8, 2008

re: 30. girl6 – May 8, 2008

“This is what I saw in my childhood dreams, when I closed my eyes and made a wish:
http://www.gabekoerner.com/ent/enterprise_orbit_1080.jpg

agreed. THIS IMAGE is the Gabriel Koerner© Enterprise that got me totally enthused.

Gabe, I’m sorry for the disrespect and apologize to your work. That image is spectacular.

BEST!!

=h=

37. MattTheTrekkie (trekkie1415) - May 8, 2008

@hitch #34

Poetry. That is what art should be. I also love your ‘2008 ain’t 1969′ bit too! Brilliant.

Vector… your rendering still ROCKS!!!

38. Nelson - May 8, 2008

Sorry, but why does Gabe keep showing up?

He’s a competent CGI artist, but a terrible designer. He’s not trained and has no eye for design, proportion and originality from what I can see.

39. Bart - May 8, 2008

Gabe’s Enterprise looks like as if it has been assimilated by the Borg…

40. Green-Blooded-Bastard - May 9, 2008

9. Ensign Ricky

I agree, though I really like Jason Lee’s retro look as well.

41. hitch1969© - May 9, 2008

re: 39. Bart – May 8, 2008

whoa………….

seer of seers. effing a. Like a psychologist, you’ve just put a label on a feeling that we all have. Ever take some of those classes, dude? It’s merely a mapping of the human condition, which is understood and not be discussed.

=h=

42. AJ - May 9, 2008

I agree with Harry up at #1. Time for some real news.

It’s fun to see how some competent designers have re-imagined our favorite ship.

Does anyone know who has re-designed NCC-1701 for XI?

43. James Heaney - Wowbagger - May 9, 2008

They all remain highly sexy, despite not being the real deal.

44. fakesteve - May 9, 2008

considered that there is a year to go till the movie opens I dont mind that I dont know what JJs 1701 will look like. It would be like Damon explaining what smokey is two years before the Finale in 2010 ;))

45. Chris Pike - May 9, 2008

Vektorprise is way ahead of the others, and maybe even better than the official trailer version.

46. Enc - May 9, 2008

damn gabe aree you ever gonna finish that thing?

will people stop saying ‘long wait’ please. it hurts bad enough already. :)

#19
oh that was hard

47. fakesteve - May 9, 2008

I really like Jason ‘Vektor’ Lees ship. The Gabe is too futuristic for my taste…

48. Kirk, James T. - May 9, 2008

I think JJ Abrams is clever not to release something too early however perhaps a little teaser, maybe just a glimpse of this ship b4 indie, like i dunno a sequence in space starting with a shuttle, camera follows shuttle then pans across to reveal the Enterprise, all shots cut by flashes of white, then the Trek logo then summer 2009

49. Enc - May 9, 2008

sorry forgot my 0.02 quatloos.
i dont like JJ’s ent. i think it stinks. for this era i like vector better.

50. Daniel Broadway - May 9, 2008

#23 “Daniel Broadway needs to post some pics, I’m itching to see what his E looks like after seeing his fake footage!”

I’m in the process of making a second teaser, which will “continue” the events of the first real teaser.

It features a whole new Enterprise, than the one from my first teaser. I hope you enjoy when it’s released.

51. AJ - May 9, 2008

It will be absolutely imperative for JJ to show the ship prior to the film’s opening.

The Iron Man trailer is all about cool FX, and that film, on very traditional marketing and buzz, made freaking $200m in its first weekend.

If there is eyecandy to be had, the first real trailer had best show it off.

52. Digginjim - May 9, 2008

Either version looks super cool to me.

Hey, its news ST. I’m happy.

53. websbestcomics - May 9, 2008

I have a bad feeling about what they are coming up with for the movie. I’m okay with JJ updating the underlying technology and bringing it all ‘into sharper focus’ as they say, but don’t mess with the actual design of the original E. Yeah, let’s see the hull plating seams and make the ship look more believable and detailed for the big screen, but I hope to God that they don’t try to reinvent it.

54. diabolk - May 9, 2008

Gabe is getting almost as much publicity as if he WAS doing the movie! You know he’s loving it.

55. YUBinit - May 9, 2008

Bottom line… it was stated we would get something soon how many months ago? Why believe then any other claims made on this production?

I for one don’t like being lied too. Perhaps the oh so cleaver position on the false promise was for us to keep it in mind with all the guessing and fussing in the forums.

Just pisses me off.

56. Bryan with Pointy Nacelles and a large Dish - May 9, 2008

FIRST PLACE WINNER: Jason
SECOND PLACE WINNER: Bailey
THIRD PLACE WINNER: Gabe’s (his nacelles looks like two uncircumscribed male appendages)

57. Bryan with Pointy Nacelles and a large Dish - May 9, 2008

OOps….that uncircumcised….sorry

58. AJ - May 9, 2008

YUBinit:

I don’t think we are being lied to. The film has been pushed back 6 months, and the marketing budget should not be squandered too early.

Those who promised this to us have no control over the release date, so I think your anger is misplaced.

I was hoping at 365 days, we would get a carrot, but we didn’t. If the fabled July San Diego Con comes and goes without anything of interest, then we can be officially pissed off.

59. TonyD - May 9, 2008

Matt Jeffries sure did come up with an iconic design – it lends itself to so many different interpretations but still looks great. I kind of like the Dennis Bailey design best – somewhere between the classic Enterprise and the movie version.

Would it really hurt Paramount to release a pic or rendering of the new version already? I mean, it’s not like anybody can copy it and use it in another movie or anything. It will only increase awareness, foster more debate and thus more interest. Where’s the harm in that?

60. J C - May 9, 2008

I heard the new Enterprise is more organic in it’s design with a more expressive chunk cut out of the aft secondary hull directly below the shuttle hangar entrance.
It’s out there somewhere .The toy companies know what it looks like so they can build their toys based on it.

61. AJ - May 9, 2008

Bryan:

That thought crossed my mind as well.

If I recall, in Gene Roddenberry’s novelization of TMP, Kirk “gets” the Enterprise design as a female with her graceful nacelles as legs during his flyover.

Koerner turns Enterprise into a woman with two oversized willies.

I think all three of these updates are worthy contenders. However, I’d love to be a fly on the wall at ILM as they do the FX for this film.

62. Holger - May 9, 2008

I like Vektor’s design. If the real thing will be anything like that, I’m happy.

63. Tom - May 9, 2008

After seeing the teaser trailer a few times, the warp nacelles of that Enterprise looks a lot like Gabe Koerner’s design. But for me I have to agree with the others. Although it is a great design, It is too muscular and aggressive looking for Star Trek (maybe a Terminator meets Star Trek Universe).

Jason ‘Vektor’ Lee’s is really a loving tribute, though. It needs the super high bridge dome though :) (The Cage version was imagined to be a smaller ship than the series version, hence only a crew of 200 or so).

64. Cervantes - May 9, 2008

These are all great work, but I would still be happy to be getting big screen visuals of the ‘TOS’ Enterprise if the design looked like the following from either Scott Gammans or Daren Dochterman…

http://scottgammans.com/

http://betafive.com/wordpress/?cat=6

And I rather like the idea of any FULL reveal of the new movie ‘E’ and ‘lighting’ being kept a surprise till opening night, with only glimpses of certain portions of it in any future trailers…
Maybe we can get a peak at some PRODUCTION ART of it till then though…

However, this thing is more than likely to be leaked by someone to do with the toy or book side of it’s merchandising anyway! It normally is nowadays… :(

65. SPOCKBOY - May 9, 2008

VEKTOR’S Foolerprise is excellent!
I like GABE’S too but it’s a little too busy for me, especially the secondary hull.
Great work guys.

66. Cervantes - May 9, 2008

Oh, and pleeease let it have nice obvious RED and GREEN ‘navigational’ lighting atop!…

67. CmdrR - May 9, 2008

Most of them wisely make the windows smaller. Those windows don’t have to show up on 14″ TVs anymore, so they don’t have to translate into something that would be two decks tall.

I like almost all of the above models. But, I am SO ready for the real thing.

68. Lou - May 9, 2008

The anticipation buildup is making us all mad.
and I love it!!!!

69. Scott - May 9, 2008

Just scanning quickly through the responses, I have to agree that Jason’s wins the “contest.” It looks great, which is the most important thing, and it also looks like it could slightly pre-date the original Jeffries design.

Koerner’s is harsh. It’s not bad, but it doesn’t look like a “good guys” ship.

Dennis’s is a nice attempt to reconcile all the 1701’s designs, but doesn’t quite set my sails.

I also just love the lighting and rendering on Jason’s. It’s really majestic and beautiful-looking.

Scott B. out.

70. Clinton - May 9, 2008

While none of these are the “real deal,” I tip my hat to anyone who can create such great-looking images. Well done!

71. Dennis Bailey - May 9, 2008

Thanks for the kind words, everyone.

We’re not in a competition. :-)

72. Garibaldi77 - May 9, 2008

Check out a whole bunch of Gabe’s hi-res images along with some quick time animations of his creation.

Short quicktime video: http://www.gabekoerner.com/ent/trekreel002.mov

Lots of hi res images: http://www.gabekoerner.com/ent

73. Thomas Jensen - May 9, 2008

Vektor’s Enterprise is excellent. I’d like to see that in the movie.

74. Jason L - May 9, 2008

I second Dennis’ grattitude for all the kind words. Definitely not a competition, just a really fun project. For me, it was also a chance to make a statement about the kind of “updates” I wanted to see in this new film. Like everyone else, I’m eager to find out what the real deal looks like, but I don’t expect to see it any time soon given the pushed-back release date. I still wonder if they might throw something at us with Indy 4; just seems like too big an opportunity to pass up.

75. case pollard - May 9, 2008

i think Jason ‘Vektor’ Lee’s ship is totally beautiful. i love the vintage, original look. design from that era was amazing, so why try to ‘improve’ upon it like the others? the other ships are nice of course, but jason’s really holds the original design in tact while adding details that would complement the style.

76. JL - May 9, 2008

hey, my post didn’t take! what the – ?

77. Dr. Image - May 9, 2008

Dennis- wow. Perfect!

78. Kev-1 - May 9, 2008

I hope they release something at least on the ship soon. Those who don’t want to see it don’t have to look. And the ship will be all over the place before the movie opens anyway (even if it’s just a day before). For TMP they showed the basic ship redesign at the press conference to announce the film. And a presskit with photos went to theater owners one year before the movie opened. I’m curious to see it soon, but if I don’t, it’s OK .

79. Chris Pike - May 9, 2008

74 Yes your statements are absolutely bang on the money for me, an older trekker and massive fan of MJ’s visual genius. Your design is a massive nod to MJ’s original yet the updates actually enhance it, not an easy thing to achieve. I think we will get something more extreme in the film, and sadly probably not as “nice” as the Vektorprise for fans. So far the trailer seems to idicate a ship with all manner of later versions’ scaled up details – noteably TMP version which is supposedly later – added here and there without much thought it would seem.

80. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - May 9, 2008

After Dennis Bailey and Jason Lee’s comments upthread, I regret having framed my opinions in terms of an implied competition. All three of the entries are of exceptional 3D-modeling quality, and represent the work of true artists — the ones who do it for the love of it. Kudos to all three!

81. jeff thorn - May 9, 2008

I love vectors design

82. WOWTREKWARSNUT - May 9, 2008

Star trek sucks.NOT!

83. Paul - May 9, 2008

all of them look good, im just hoping to god that they dont stick a satelite dish on the front of the Enterprise, its one of the only things I hate about the orig design and would look soooo out of place nowadays!!

84. Kayla Iacovino - May 9, 2008

Those Koerner pics are uber sweet. Why isn’t he on the design team?

85. Enc - May 9, 2008

#80
i agree about that teaser ship. i remember tearing into that, with all its obvious problems. and that was after takeing into consideration that we know it does get upgrades from time to time.

86. Daniel Broadway - May 9, 2008

#83 I agree that’s the most dated look of the design. A big satellite dish just doesn’t look very modern. That being said, I think some genius designer could take the dish, and make it look futuristic.

87. THX-1138 The Fandom Menace - May 9, 2008

Posted this on the Abrams thread.

BTW on the Art Asylum board forum, there is another “alleged” example of the Enterprise from the new movie. It does nod heavily to what was seen in the trailer, but I have serious doubts that it is legit. Cue the Romulan.

88. Enc - May 9, 2008

#83
i disagree
but it does bring up the question again.
is this a prequel or is it a re-make?

and dont ask JJ’s team. theyll give you same line over and over that theyre going to honor canon, that ‘we’re honoring what came before’

89. Dennis Bailey - May 9, 2008

#87, THX-1137:

That’s actually by an artist who calls himself Jude Xavier, and it is indeed based upon the teaser trailer for ST XI.

The artist and others talk extensively about the design here:

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=51129

90. [The] TOS Purist aka The Purolator - May 9, 2008

The only design I liked was Jason Lee’s design – now THAT is what I’m talking about!! Nothing wrong with a more “detailed version” of something (think the Ktinga and the D7), but junk like Gabe’s “Enterprise” I’m sure just make Matt Jeffries spin in his grave (at warp speed, no doubt).

Jason Lee’s “Enterprise” is the best design I’ve seen other than the original – which I thought was perfect and couldn’t be “improved” upon. Mr. Lee has proven me wrong with his incredible rendering that even makes an uptight Purist like me happy!!

Hopefully Abram’s “Enterprise” will look like Jason’s version rather than Gabe’s monstrosity.

91. 1701 over Gotham City - May 9, 2008

#19
Harry nailed it…
The anticipation that we and other fans are building… there is NOTHING that can answer to it. Short of resurecting a cast 40 years younger and giving them a budget of a billion dollars.

Of the designs, I do like the Vektor design best… Gabe’s is too beefy and over-involved, it eliminates so much of the sleekness that made the big E a sexy ship. Bailey’s I like, but it’s a tad too much TMP for me, although I understand the idea of a closer progression.
I would LOVE to see a model of this idea!

92. JARED WYNN - May 9, 2008

the new enterprise will look like none of these! it will be cooler, more streamlined and as beautiful as we all want her to be. but the new one will blow all these out of the water. it will be nothing that we will expect.
but i have to agree that korner ain’t the greatest of designers, but it’s fan made so it can be whatever the hell it wants to be.

93. Rod of Rassilon - May 9, 2008

http://www.gabekoerner.com/ent/enterprise_orbit_1080.jpg

thats on my desktop, I don’t care if its cannon or not, its just STUNNING to look at :)

at least until we get “real” pics

94. snake - May 9, 2008

The Ent in the teaser trailer reminds me of the end of TMP where V’ger implodes/explodes whatever and we see the Ent coming out of it and the camara zooms in on The Ents saucer real close…same nasa space shuttle heat panels, the bridge, phaser bank, lettering of the ‘NCC 1701′ etc

The new Ent looks to be a blend of TOS (nacells..probably deflector dish etc) and the movie Ent (panels..phaser banks..lettering etc)

95. J C - May 9, 2008

That Gabekoerner thing looks like some Jekyll and Hyde version of the Enterprise.

96. Lord Garth, Formerly of Izar - May 9, 2008

Beetle Bailey!!! I think Jude pretty much nailed it. Though I think the overall length of the ship will be more like 2000′ due to the trailer showing 4 decks on the outer saucer rim. I think everything else looks close to what we will see in the film. Outstanding work from everyone!!!

97. Lord Garth, Formerly of Izar - May 9, 2008

here’s maybe the cleanest view of the JJ prise at screen rant which I think most clearly shows off the bigger scale of the ship. The outer saucer rim is twice as tall as the TOS or Movie E.

http://screenrant.com/images/enterprise-detail.html

98. THX-1138 The Fandom Menace - May 9, 2008

I’m with you Garth. If you look closely to the picture you put up and the render that Jude made, the similarities are striking. And I tell you what, I like it. I wouldn’t at all be put off by it. What do you think?

99. OM - May 9, 2008

…So, are any of these meshes available for download, or are their creators being [censored] and keeping them for themselves?

100. James T. bert - May 9, 2008

The Dennis Bailey Enterpise is the one I like. I can see that ship after TOS and before TMP.

I have seen art work of “The J.J. Abrams Enterprise” and none of these ships are like it.

The “Under Construction” trailer show most of the changes to the classic look.

101. Enc - May 9, 2008

#96
2000′ jhc !!!

4 deack? i looked at it as three when i first saw it. hey 3, 4 whats the differance. its suppost to be 2. JJprise just looks too thick in the rim.

#98
ill tell ya what i think.
oh waot ive already said as much. i dont like th JJprise or Judes.
not for early/pre tos movie.
i realy like jasons

102. Enc - May 10, 2008

#100
im sorry could you say that again

103. AJ - May 10, 2008

Garth:

Thanks for the link to the monster detailed image of the ship. I saw a lot more here than I have before.

No three circular windows at the bow end of the saucer? I guess, as mentioned, as the saucer’s rim has four visible decks, they would be totally out of proportion, as I think many of the windows as we know them on the old E would be on the new one.

104. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - May 10, 2008

I think the teaser trailer’s theme of “under construction”, combined with the limited, highly foreshortened view of the E from the front, gives JJ’s team the latitude they need so that any changes to the look of the ship before the film – or any ‘definitive’ version – is shown can be explained away. In other words, folks, don’t put too much stock in that one still from the teaser trailer.

Yes, certain things have been hammered down, but the issue of perspective can be tricky and they know that and rely on it later to weasel out of future complaints about the teaser trailer apparently not corresponding to the movie.

Consider that foreshortening in 2D graphics can look right with the gestalt taken into account, but give the impression of being wrong when the viewer focuses on just one element of the image. A complimentary effect is the flattening effect of telephoto lenses shooting subjects from extreme distance, wherein, again, everything looks right in context, but can give the impression of incongruent sizes when two objects – at different distances to the viewer but both in focus – are juxtaposed and one’s vision becomes fixed on the two objects alone.

So, basically, take the same shot of the Enterprise and “dolly” out with the “camera”, and everything looks right.

105. AJ - May 10, 2008

The trailer nacelles seem to suffer from the same “giant d*ldo” syndrome as the Koerner nacelles. They are too thick and too wide.

In TMP and beyond, the refit design benefitted greatly from sleeker, trimmer nacelles on widening, seemingly stronger, struts.

Maybe, a bit of perspective, as #104 mentions, will help.

I am not sure the teaser was meant to show an Enterprise which could be easily changed, apart of the installation of the nacelle caps (and points, it seems). That would be too cruel. In any case, the teaser will be long forgotten once the trailer, and the film itself, are revealed.

106. Enc - May 10, 2008

#104
dont forget distance/placement
one of the things about the trailer ver is that its not ment ot sat that the ship is all in one piece. but maybe many pieces. the nacelles could be seperate nearby and give the impresion of completion. being in the wrong place throws it off.

#105
no ones gonna forget it.

107. Cervantes - May 10, 2008

Daniel Broadway – meant to say in my earlier post that I also really liked some of your speculative Enterprise design work too.

108. AJ - May 10, 2008

Enc:

On second thought, no one here will forget it, that’s for sure ;-).

109. Andrew - May 10, 2008

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg178/judexavier/STXINCC-17013View.jpg

110. GilmourD - May 10, 2008

You guys want to see something BEAUTIFUL from Vektor? Check out the Grandeur-A on TrekBBS. Seriously… It’s what the Sovereign class Enterprise-E should’ve been.

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=1622954#post1622954

111. The Last Maquis - May 10, 2008

Koerner Just stop already. they designed something better get over it.

112. Andrew - May 10, 2008

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg178/judexavier/STXINCC-1701Side-Front02Posterfun.jpg?t=1210425887

113. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - May 10, 2008

#106 – you are right, it *could* be that the nacelles are not in their final position, which is one of the reason I cited the ability of the filmmakers to “weasel” about certain aspects of the look of the Enterprise once the film comes out – or before that, if they release a “definitive” look to the ship before the film debuts.

But the thing is, why put the nacelles so close to where they will be once they are on the pylons, if they could finish them somewhere else (like on the ground) and then position them on the pylons?

114. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - May 10, 2008

^clarification – I mean, why work on the nacelles so close to where they will be once they are on the pylons, but not on the pylons, instead of, say, working on them on the ground (they have to be elevated to be higher up than the dish).

115. Thomas Jensen - May 10, 2008

The Dennis Bailey Enterprise would have been great for the Star Trek movies. As much as the Enterprise from the first six movies was a beautiful ship, I alway missed the rotating engine design from the original show. I was never much on that flat engine design, even though it comes from Matt Jefferies in concept.

I like Mr. Bailey’s mixture of original design elements from the series and the films. I think his design would have been more realistic for a refit 21/2 years after the 5-year mission (as it was presented to the audience)then the ship we saw in ST:TMP. This, because it was always a question to me that the movie version looked like a whole new ship, but was offered as a refit, it didn’t really make much sense.

The ship above really would have fit into the concept of an upgrade done right after the series and would have satisified those who felt the ship need updating for the big screen ten years after the show’s third season.

116. Enc - May 10, 2008

#113 114
wow the actual shape of the dry dock for this 23 deck ‘V’ shape ship. the ship is in the dock its self and the engines are build up on ground level and then only slid over a few meters to final position. but then there are other ships whos shapes whould differ. but all this goes to the conversation of newportnews and gantry cranes and super lifts and block construction vs keel up…..

but yeah building the way as picted does look a bit crouded.

117. 4 8 15 16 23 42 - May 11, 2008

#116 – Okay, yeah, with a “V” shape to the dry dock itself, that makes sense to me now.

118. That One Guy - May 11, 2008

If these are just fake images, I can’t wait to see what the REAL one looks like.

119. Enc - May 12, 2008

#118
well the image above is from the actual teaser trailer witht hte word ‘under construction’
and thats the question. just how close does this enterprise depiction resemble the actual ship in the movie. to say nothing about the tos copmparison.

#117
i forgot to mention ground contruction and orbital construction/assembly…
but getting back to conversation of persective and lense use….
if you look at the pic you see a crane that appears to be 1000′ feet away behind the ship and the end pf the boom is shining a light on the bridge, right next to a man holding a flashlight. but if you look at actual trailer and see that shot in motion the crane looks no where near the bridge.

120. Bryan with Pointy Nacelles and a large Dish - June 2, 2008

You know I did not mind when the Enterprise was changed from the original series to TMP to First Contact to Insurrection etal. The reason seemed to be a normal evolutionary change to modernize. But to go back and re-invent her is scary. While all the variations included in this piece are noteworthy, the one from Vektor just tweaked her with the slightest embellishments and made it look like her just techied up a bit. It gets my wholehearted vote as the best.

121. James Random - June 16, 2008

Well, clearly gabes enterprise will not be the film enterprise, however, looking at the photo from the trailer we can see in the detail of the nacelles that SOME design changes/enhancements have been made…we see sweeping curves a title font for the name that didn’t appear until STIII on the excelsior and we see a sort of sweeping fin at the very tip of the end of each nacelle that blends into the overall design.
I expect we can see a cross between gabes images and the original being the final outcome for the film. Certainly the film is being set up to have a less ‘prissy’ look than previous films (going all battlestar galactica Esque on us).

thats my ten pence.

122. James Random - June 16, 2008

ADDENDUM: more likely a cross between the orginal and the enterprise-a

123. buckky - July 2, 2008

enterprise redesign = bad move
old crew played by new people = bad move

original TOS constitution class on big screen = what I wanted

even if the film is good on its own merit, i cant get past such misjudgement, so i wont even go see it, even though i have been a trekkie all my life. no, BECAUSE i have been.

of all things to mess with. trekkies are the most cannon / continuity sensitive of ALL audiences, dont thiese guys know this?

124. TC - October 14, 2008

I have to concur, that Jason’s design is the best. He respects canon and does not alter major features of the ship…actually improves and updates them for a more modern bigscreen feel.

I hope J.J. does not disappoint with his rendition…

Hopeful but very nervous.

125. CJ - December 22, 2008

I must be the only one who thinks that Trek Tech has gone the way of the rainbow smurfs with all the lighting effects and unexplained ‘clear pieces’ as well as the continual copying of the spaced nacelles.

If you want to redo Trek, you should take it as far ahead of where the old one left off as the last of the TV series (what, 2,500?) are from now. You should instate a period of dramatic change as something takes the Federation down without necessarily ‘occupying it as a hostile power’. And then you should reinvision a kind of hybrid (Battletech like) ‘Star League’ vision of humanity coming back from the brink on multiple planets with varying degrees of technology.

At which point, you no longer have to worry about dorky looking ‘two mail tubes, an ice cream scoop and a dinner plate’ design configurations. Nor about the idiocy of having a glowing _solid_ front end to what should be (at best) an invisible force field designed to act like the variable intake on a jet engine in drawing in more natural, interstellar, hydrogen. While glowing hot pink with blue internal strobes.

That obsession with _1960s_ level ‘Bussard Ramjet’ design tech in a semi-realistic universe where ships CANNOT GO FTL so long as they stay in our physics-ruled Mass:Energy quotient space is what is dumb here.

And if you are no longer hoovering up hydrogen because all your power is _internal_ then the nacelles can go. And if the nacelles go, or at least are internalized, with the body of the ship, then the ship itself must dramatically change. As indeed the Kardassian and Bajoran and all the other new-Alien craft seem to get by without that primitive stick and string approach to a very primitive looking, volumetrically inefficient, hullform.

Such is what happens when you get trapped in the past with a reboot of something that was cool for it’s time but is now completely dated. Technically as much as Socially.

Jeep

126. L E Greys - April 7, 2009

If I think of ‘the Starship Enterprise’, I always see her as the original 1960s TV series ship. That is ‘the Enterprise’ and all the rest are ‘some other Enterprise’. The design is simple elegance, there is nothing unnecessary, and her lines are all clean and simple. O.K., if you want a movie featuring that design, yes, show where all the weld joints (or futuristic equivalent) are and so on, and add the odd surface detail, but don’t mess with the lines.

This is all purely aesthetic, and if we ever do get round to building a starship, I very much doubt it will be a flying saucer with engines. Still, the Enterprise isn’t real. The old ship was a 9ft model in Desilu studios. It’s just a question of a design classic that stuck.

Having seen it, I don’t plan to go and see the film. It just looks too different, and it’s offputting. I didn’t much like the last film, Nemesis, either. Star Trek has probably had it’s day, and should go quietly back to spacedock and boldly go on through an eternity of re-runs. It’s a product of the 20th Century, and ought to remain there. The same can be said of many other film franchises, I think it’s about time they killed off James Bond as well, as long as they can make it suitably heroic. There are new stories to tell and new ideas to be explored.

Still, please don’t mess with a classic just for the sake of it. It’s pointless.

127. L E Greys - April 7, 2009

To add to my earlier comment, I think Dennis Bailey’s design would look quite good in the remastered version of the 60s series that I have heard about. Maybe not as the Enterprise, but I can remember one episode that has four other starships in it. It makes sense that at least one of them would be a halfway house between the telly and film versions of the ship. Perhaps she would be on ‘space trials’ or something. After all, the refit did not come out of thin air, and an in-between stage would make sense.

128. Joseph - June 6, 2009

I think Dennis Bailey’s design looks the best; even far better than the one JJ Abrams used for is movie. The one in the movie looks weird, and doesn’t look as though it represents the Enterprise.

Dennis Bailey’s design is one that I can look at, and actually call it “Enterprise”.

Great work Dennis. Try talking some sense into JJ Abrams anti-Trek team, and see if you can get to him. Somebody needs to because the man just doesn’t get it.

129. Star Trek: Style and Engineering « www.generation-joe.com - June 17, 2009

[…] The “so close yet so far” feeling comes from the fact that if the secondary hull was extended just a little bit, the visual imbalance would be fixed and so, at a glance, you could guess we were all looking at the same ship here. For example, below is a picture from Spockboy via ScreenRant. Also see some of the work some other fans have done. […]

130. Generation-Joe.com » Star Trek: Style and Engineering: - June 28, 2009

[…] The “so close yet so far” feeling comes from the fact that if the secondary hull was extended just a little bit, the visual imbalance would be fixed and so, at a glance, you could guess we were all looking at the same ship here.  For example, below is a picture from Spockboy via ScreenRant.  Also see some of the work some other fans have done. […]

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