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More Photos From Academy Location Shoot May 30, 2008

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Back in March we reported location shooting for the new Star Trek feature was taking place at Cal State Northridge. Now some new photos from that shoot, including some aliens, have shown up online.

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From the new report at JoBlo:

These are some pics from the set of Star Trek Academy. The location is California State University of Northridge and the school library is being used as a… well, school. This shows some nice costumes and art design. During filming, all the extras run over to the right side of the field, to the blue screen and point, as if something big crashes.

This jibes with reports sent in to TrekMovie.com back in March — that some kind of dramatic event happens at the Academy.

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Comments

1. WOWTREKWARSNUT - May 30, 2008

err the red uniforms are such garbage,…but the black military dress is nice

2. Dennis Bailey - May 30, 2008

Cool beans – you can see the blue/purple alien from the front in one shot, standing behind the futuristic are.

There’s also a white stenciled label on an obelisk that says “GNDN”

3. Pat D - May 30, 2008

Awesome!!

4. demon barber of starfleet - May 30, 2008

I like the uniforms.

5. Chancellor Jake - May 30, 2008

Those alien extras look a bit too much like the bizarre Star Wars aliens.
I don’t like, or want freak-tastic aliens in a Star Trek movie.
YMMV

6. THX-1138 The Fandom Menace - May 30, 2008

What is the rust-brown antenna looking doo-hickey apparatus, I wonder? Futuristic vending machine? Otherworldly port-a-potty?

From the blue-screen, there would appear to be quite a CG set extension that would support the claim that some big FX driven event would happen. Or they are just trying to hide the traffic on the freeway.

And where is that dude that said no pictures from the set ever show up on this site? Gotta be here every day, man. It’s called payin’ your dues.

7. SChaos1701 - May 30, 2008

This looks freakin’ awesome!

8. Ampris - May 30, 2008

The red uniforms still make sense to me, so I’m not gonna worry about their aesthetics. (Not that it bugs me anyway. I think they look fine.)

But sweet! More pictures are always fun, even if they don’t show anything big (though that tower thing piqued my interest, though it’s probably just a Starfleet control tower or something…) It’s great just to get a sense of the set, to see what was going on while filming– and I agree with six about checking here every day: it does pay off when things finally start happening. :D

P.S.: I feel sort of bad about this, but… well, it was the Aptera that grabbed my attention first. I’m not a car person, I don’t drive at all, but that is one COOL car. It sucks that only Californians can get them; I was trying to talk my dad into getting one for commuting (“commuting” :P), and then I found out we can’t even own one once they start production. Huge bummer. =(

9. Vulcan Soul - May 30, 2008

Isn’t the car an Aptera One? Looks exactly like it.

And yeah, the uniforms are garbage. Way too big and loose… kinda 1980s, not exactly contemporary. Give me tight-fitting any day!

10. JB - May 30, 2008

In the 23rd century there WILL be short skirts and go-go boots. The human adventure truly is just beginning. 100 cocktails to JJ’s costume designer.

11. Littlenatey - May 30, 2008

This was all 2nd unit shooting. There’s no way you’ll be able to notice the fit of the uniforms in the wide angle crowd shots they were doing.

12. PookaKnight - May 30, 2008

9. Yep, that’s an Aptera. Maybe it’s a cadet’s 200 year old beater he or she’s driving around in college ;-)

13. OneBuckFilms - May 30, 2008

I like the Red uniforms a lot.

I also noticed the Go-Go Boots, and the skirts were short.

There is definately a 60s vibe to the whole thing, and the location looks like the kind of location they would use in the Original Series.

The black “Stormtrooper-Like” uniforms might take a little getting used to, but I think they are meant to signify an earlier generation, the instructors and whatnot.

Visually, like the 40s WWII era making way for the younger, more outgoing, 60s era.

This film looks like a little bit of a tribute to the 60s, and Star Trek’s reflection of it.

Very interesting way to go, and those designs could easily lead to the Original Series we know.

I like.

14. Lord Garth, Formerly of Izar - May 30, 2008

So cool love the Star Wars Imperial Nazi uniforms starfleet Wermacht and the miniskirts wi gogoboots look quite sweet

15. Thomas - May 30, 2008

6. No freeways in view of CSUN; I should know, I live two miles from there. Which makes it suck so much that I missed these Academy scenes while they were being filmed.

16. websbestcomics - May 30, 2008

If you look closely, you can see Kirk and Spock standing at the balcony in one of the shots.

17. Kirk, James T. - May 30, 2008

Its Star Trek in the Star Wars Universe – perhaps this is how time travel is used in the film. As long as Jar Jar Binks isn’t in this prequel. :P

18. Jeffery Wright - May 30, 2008

the further adventure of hotel bellhop academy, eh?

GNDN = goes nowhere, does nothing… a tribute to a tos in-joke

is it me or do the female uniforms seem a little less than ‘hot space babe’ compared tothe original series… there are some chunky cadets at large (pun… sorry)

since that car is now featured in a ‘green’ commercial on television, i wonder how ‘futuristic’ it will seem in the new movie? unless its presented as an antique hotrod, like a chevy belair…

19. j - May 30, 2008

UGH RED!!!

20. Pete359 - May 30, 2008

I wouldn’t worry about that stone tower thingy. It has GNDN on it… fans of the original series know that means it GOES NOWHERE DOES NOTHING. ;)

(PS, it was cool when that showed up in the DS9 Trials and Tribbleations too)

21. Thomas - May 30, 2008

The only thing I don’t like about the uniforms are the oddball peaked caps. I think they may have been slightly redesigned to avoid obvious comparisons to Imperial uniforms.
On another note, any theories as to what the big crash might be?

22. Jeffery Wright - May 30, 2008

satellite view of location:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=+Northridge,+California&ie=UTF8&ll=34.238521,-118.529182&spn=0.001406,0.002489&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=34.238488,-118.531738

too bad there isnt any streetview on campus…

23. Thorny - May 30, 2008

6. THX-1138… “And where is that dude that said no pictures from the set ever show up on this site? Gotta be here every day, man. It’s called payin’ your dues.”

Technically, those aren’t pictures from the set. They’re from location filming.

24. Pete359 - May 30, 2008

#21

(Previous report Spoiler RE: other ships)

Maybe it’s Spocks Timeship, he can’t be the best flyer I don’t think I’ve ever seen him drive. In fact when Vulcans are confronted with driving (Turok with Paris in Future’s End and T’Pol and Archer in Carpenter Street) they seem perplexed by it. Silly Vulcans.

25. Decker's Stubble - May 30, 2008

Loved the mini-skirts and boots. But the caps look weird, like a cross between a jockey’s helmet and those caps English schoolchildren wear.

26. ACHERKICK13 - May 30, 2008

It been a long time…..

Man! all the photos of JJ’s star trek look like Star Trek: Enterprise.
1. The photo of JJ sitting at a Helm typing laptop. the helm looks like Star Trek: Enterprise.
2. the uniforms are like Star Trek: Enterprise uniforms cross with Star Wars Imperial officer uniforms. The blue uniforms look like the same blue color as uniforms and not the TOS blue. Star Trek: Enterprise had caps too, but with nx-01 on them.
3. the enterprise is the trailer looks like the NX-01 crossed with 1701 and 1701-a.

The only thing is that some thing in JJ’s Star Trek look like older tech then the Tos or Star Trek: Enterprise. It is like stream-trek.
Star Trek: Enterprise is the prequel to TOS (by 100 years), but the JJ’s Star Trek has old tech then Star Trek: Enterprise.

The more I see of JJ’s Star Trek, the more I hate it, no wonder they are keeping it Super Secret.

I hated Star Trek: Enterprise, but now I’m first to like it after seeing and reading about JJ’s Star Trek. seasons 1 and 4 are good. seasons 2 and 3 suck because of bad stories. I also skip the Bad main song. The more I watch Star Trek: Enterprise, I see how a lot of TOS canon is hidden in the show. You have a watch Star Trek: Enterprise carefully and look deeper to find all the TOS links. One is the TOS beetle-boots with the zipper on the side that is apart of the Star Trek: Enterprise uniforms. the Star Trek: Enterprise uniforms has all type of thing which link it to the TOS.

JJ’s Star Trek uniforms do not look like star trek uniforms. The short skirts and go-go boots are the only thing I have see which is like the TOS. It seems more and more that The short skirts, go-go boots and nimoy will be the only things which will be canon to TOS.

27. Billie Goat - May 30, 2008

More photos from this shooting at:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36031

Different blue screen there, nice overhead view. From such a large distance, the uniforms don’t look so bad.

28. Theory - May 30, 2008

Kirk is on a shuttle joy ride and crashes into the Academy.

(I seriously hope not)

29. BaronByng - May 30, 2008

It’s really much less 1960s than it is 1950s — a “reverse evolution” of the TOS uniforms based on what we know of previous sci-fi costume design.

Think about it: TOS’s uniforms were the contemporary style of 1966-68 projected 300 years into the future. 1950s sci-fi outfits were very much more like the Academy outfits we’ve seen in these shots. Forbidden Planet, for one, had outfits very like this, and so did many movie serials and television shows.

Even though we know it’s a retcon, it’s canon to say that the “11 years ago” setting of The Cage means that its uniforms — with their flat “bellhop” caps and outer jackets, and even the bulky “hand lasers” — represent the design style of the mid-to-late 2250s, so to follow the analogy, they are 1950s style projected 300 years ahead.

This also gives us some indication into the actual timeframe of the central narrative – probably anywhere from mid-2240s to the early 2250s.

If we’re seeing Kirk at the Academy, I’m presuming he’s in his early 20s — if we take the date of 2233 at the Memory Alpha bio as canon, and he takes command of the Enterprise in 2265 at the age of 32. Presuming that the Academy is more like a traditional 4-year college and he would enter around the age of 17-18 (2250-2251) and graduate at the age of 21-22 (2254-2255)

Since the events of “The Cage” take place in 2254 (“thirteen years ago”, from the perspective of 2267), it seems likely that if Kirk knew Spock at the academy, it would have been briefly…Spock would have been an upperclassman or even an instructor, as by 2254 Spock was junior science officer on the Enterprise under Pike…so how old is Chris Pine’s Kirk supposed to be in this – 18?

30. Odkin - May 30, 2008

Those ugly tomato-red costumes could have been saved with black pants. They would have looked better, and more Trekish.

31. J W Wright - May 30, 2008

its only a matter of time before st:ent is appreciated, the same happened with tng, throngs cried ‘it aint trek without spock and kirk’

enterprise was good, and it was a crime to have pulled the plug on that last season, which was really getting good

go back and look at tng’s first few seasons, i wonder how it stayed on the air at all, but after season 3, they really hit their stride and produced excellent trek

32. zan - May 30, 2008

#26

IT’S A DISASTER

33. Oregon Trek Geek - May 30, 2008

26 – I like the main song of Enterprise as a pop/rock-ish song. It’s even on my ipod. But I don’t think it should have been used as the theme for a star trek series. —-Maybe—- for the end credits, but not for opening…. imo

I think Russell Watson is a great singer btw….

34. sean - May 30, 2008

#5

Really? I think that’s exactly what I’ve been looking forward to seeing in a Trek movie. We saw way too many humanoid aliens in Trek. It’s time for some Horta/Tholian/Medusan-type aliens.

35. zan - May 30, 2008

I like the uniforms, don’t understand what the hoopla is about the hats… or is mankind supposed to move on from the use of hats in gene roddenberry’s 23rd century human society? *rolls eyes*

36. Oregon Trek Geek - May 30, 2008

Also, as for the uniforms, I’m hoping that these are Academy uniforms only, and that something nicer/cooler will be seen on board ship. ’cause they are kinda fugly.

37. zan - May 30, 2008

#36, I think there was an interview with someone who was on set and said the uniforms are almost the same as the ones worn in the original show, so I assume the ones in the pics are cadet uniforms

38. Sid - May 30, 2008

#32: I lol’d. Well played.

#26: With you. Hell, I even like Season 3 now, once I got over the whole canon issue and realized it’s just a damn TV show. And the season premiere and finale of Season 2 are glorious.

It is kind of ironic that, since with ENT they were trying to be as TOS-like as possible in terms of story and cast, they got the same fate as TOS — cancelled early and only appreciated years later. I hated ENT when it was on the air, but got absolutely addicted through the DVDs last year.

39. Lurker - May 30, 2008

Let me guess. No, actually, I will hedge a bet.

This is where Spock and his “Time Ship” crash-land. The moment will be played for comedy, a la Nimoy/Spock’s most famous best-remembered-by-the-public appearance — in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.

I don’t think the ship we see is Spock’s “Time Ship” — does Vulcan intergalactic law require a license plate?? ;-)

40. I hate mini-skirts (and don't wear dresses either) - May 30, 2008

Oh, my gosh WHY did they have to go with the mini-skirts? Ughhh! Women’s uniforms with mini-skirts!

Gene Roddenberry only used mini-skirts in TOS for the sexual attraction factor. Sure, I want to look feminine when I’m at work, but I’d never be caught dead in one of those. So demeaning!

41. Balok - May 30, 2008

The skirts are not short enough, what ‘swith that?

42. Ampris - May 30, 2008

40: Mini-skirts were in fashion back in the Sixties. Lots of people wore them and thought nothing of it, maybe they’re just keeping with that Sixties look. *shrugs*

Also, person who posted about Kirk and Spock being on a balcony, (whose post I can’t find, somehow) were you being serious or did you just want me to end up hunched over the screen, straining to find the hidden characters à la “Where’s Waldo?” LOL.

(I never could see them. :P)

43. Viking - May 30, 2008

Everyone power down a little. These are pre-TOS cadet uniforms. They could be wearing WWI doughboy fatigues for all I’d care about that unwritten part of ‘canon’. And given that the esteemed Mr. Cawley – self-described canonical fundamentalist that he is – gave the TOS-era uniforms his seal of approval, I suspect that J.J. & Co. aren’t too exercised about these photos leaking. It’s like puzzling over how tall Abraham Lincoln’s first stovepipe hat was. Who gives a shit, ya know?

44. The Quickening - May 30, 2008

I’m also disappointed with the uniforms… so far. Tacky 60s go-go boots; Tacky 60s mini-skirts; Tacky, overly loud reds; borrowed STAR WARS-like uniforms. Only some of the hat designs show a spark of imagination. What can the makers be thinking about? Add to this a borrowed, overly used time travel premise and I’m beginning to get a bad feeling about this film. However, I guess it’s still to early to make any major judgments.

45. Hat Rick - May 30, 2008

Nice photographs.

So far, no photos of the cadets assembled on the steps of Starfleet Academy, except on my blog.

46. The Last Maquis - May 30, 2008

Lame dude, Lame.

47. M. - May 30, 2008

#5
So your telling me you want to see crappy looking aliens with slightly bumpy foreheead or noses?!

I don’t know about you, but I’d like to see a Trek with a budget and look that it truly deserves.

And for those of you who bitch about such ancillary things as red cadet uniforms that will probably only be seen in the film for about two seconds….

Move out of your Mom’s basements!

48. Terpor - May 30, 2008

i think these are the academy uniforms

49. 342 more to go - May 30, 2008

In the future, Nazi communists will rule the galaxy.
Who knew?

50. Xai - May 30, 2008

Everybody jumps to conclusions and has no patience. The get a few pics and a plot point and assume the worst.

51. Theory - May 30, 2008

#50: That’s because “fans” don’t deserve more Star Trek. The majority of them have absolutely no tolerance for anything that wavers slightly from their internal ideal version of the show.

52. RuFFeD_UP - May 30, 2008

Now they’ve ripped off the Imperial Uniforms I swear I saw Grand Moff Tarkin in there somewhere and that Admiral From ESB.

53. Commodore Lurker - May 30, 2008

I got lost in “Boobies of the Day”, was there something about Star Trek there aslo?

54. VOODOO - May 30, 2008

I can’t believe how much some people are reading into so little.

55. Daniel Broadway - May 30, 2008

#54

How long have you been coming to this site? :p

56. Devon - May 30, 2008

#54 – EXACTLY.

For instance, #26 went into some speech from which all I got from it was that he doesn’t like the new movie because these pics don’t appear to fit into some history that A.) Really doesn’t exist B.) Even the fake history hasn’t really been depicted. We also got that he’s pretty close minded because they are shunning an entire movie based on some costumes. Just pathetic.

57. A_Dub - May 30, 2008

I think anyone who didn’t like the new indiana jones movie probably won’t like the new star trek for the same fundamental reason: it wasn’t what they wanted. I can understand that. We all want the movie to be what makes us a fan of star trek. I think this movie is gonna make trek as mind-blowingly cool today as it was when it first came on tv.

I want to high-five j.j. abrams

58. Buzz Cagney - May 31, 2008

Why is the Enterprise’s Logo being used so prominently (or indeed why AT ALL) at the Academy? Wasn’t that only adopted by the Federation after the success of the Enterprise’s 5 year mission?
What other canon can we expect to have messed with? Looks like its open season to me.

59. websbestcomics - May 31, 2008

The black go-go boots are at least 1 inch shorter than they appear in the original series. It’s as though they are making changes just for the sake of change. I don’t intend to see this movie.

60. SChaos1701 - May 31, 2008

Chill out with the canon stuff. IT’S FICTION!!!!

61. Jackson - May 31, 2008

-59. websbestcomics is right about “It’s as though they are making changes just for the sake of change”.

I’m going to point some things out. In the Cage and Where no man has gone, women wore pants and no go-go boots. Women in T.C. and W.N.M.H.G. wore uniform like the men, only the neckline was different. This another thing Star Trek: Enterprise had right, but J.J.’s Star Trek has wrong and J.J.’s Star Trek takes place between the Cage and Where no man has gone. J.J. and his crew always talking about making Star Trek more real, so why have women run around mini-skirts in which their cut or burn legs on alien world. J.J. did not have to have the women in mini-skirts and it is not canon at the time in the trek time-line the film take place to do so. Also the women of TOS wore black heavy-duty dancer pantyhose with the skirt uniform, but J.J. and his crew has the women bare legged in which they can cut or burn thier legs on alien world. plus J.J. and his crew has the women’s boot shorter in which they can cut or burn thier legs on alien world. J.J. and his crew are saying their Star Trek more real.
Also TOS shows us how a pre-TOS cadet uniforms looked like in Shore Leave and these uniforms do not match at all. Plus J.J. has The enterprise logo as the Star-Fleet Logo. With the Budget this movie has, you would think they would have many different logo designs like TOS did.

It’s REAL is as though they are making changes just for the sake of change”.

62. Devon - May 31, 2008

#59 – HA!

#61 – “With the Budget this movie has, you would think they would have many different logo designs like TOS did.”

I think with the intention of this movie… just keep it all to one universal logo.

63. Vulcan Soul - May 31, 2008

Over in the AICN thread they are rather dissing that car being present in a movie set 300 years in the future ;-)

It is not an unheard of idea for a science fiction movie though – Tarkovsky used the by then futuristic driveways of contemporary Tokyo to stand in for some futuristic cityscape in Solaris – but then again, today it is hard to grasp the original intention of the director because it just seems so dated. We also shouldn’t forget this was probably done for budgetary reasons other than anything else before, so one wonders what keeps the current crew from producing a perfectly fictitious perfectly futuristic car prop with their 150m$ budget.

64. Relentless - May 31, 2008

Nice pics I guess. I still want a new trailer.

65. colonyearth - May 31, 2008

I hate this I hate that! God is there no pleasing any of you? I will NOT judge this film based on some few scraps of distant shots on a day when 2nd unit was shooting. Uniforms and costumes are designed for film not on set pics by amatuers so none of you really have any clue what these will look like in the movie. I personally love what I’m seeing so far and have enough faith to wait and see how it all comes together.

And has anyone thought that maybe just maybe the Aptera isn’t in the film but is simply on the set? We have no frames of reference on this shots at all…none.

So let’s take a breath and be patient. This pics tell me nothing except that the costume designer really tried to create something that would reflect the look of TOS (read 60’s) while not making it silly. I respect that.

CE

66. colonyearth - May 31, 2008

Oh and to support the Aptera just being on the set idea, if you look in every pic it’s never in front of the camera, it’s always parked off in the background (behind the camera some distance) or simply pulled off to one side. Being a filmmaker, myself, it doesn’t appear to every be situated where it would be if it were being used in a shoot based on where equipment and camera are located in the pics.

And that is not Kirk and Spock on the balcony…this was 2nd unit.

CE

67. Chris Pike - May 31, 2008

So far the feel/look reminds me of a cross breed Starship Troopers/Star Wars/ Enterprise with little feel from ST TOS…but hopefully these uniforms are only used for the Academy. I’m not getting much of a feeling of TOS from anything shown so far apart from Spock/Quinto mack-up and the impellers on the ship nacelles. Having said that, we have only glimpsed a tiny sliver so I haven’t given up all hope yet. Comments, too, referring to Steam Trek have a point too.

68. Chris Pike - May 31, 2008

Spock/Quinto mack-up – make that “make-up”!

69. colonyearth - May 31, 2008

Ok on the one close from behind shot in the new pics and the one from behind in the AICN pics you can clearly see what appears to be a legit license plate on the Aptera and again, it’s parked in the background with the police bike. This car just happened to be there, folks. Who knows who it belongs to, but I really do not expect it to be in the film. I can’t see San Fran in the 23rd century using what looks to be a very 20th/21st century license plate that says it expires in AUG!

CE

70. Paulaner - May 31, 2008

I like what I see in the photos. They have a “out of time” feel, perfect for a movie that is trying to bring a show from the 60s in 21st century, trying to keep some link to the past but not mimicing it. The uniforms look strange, sort of weird, not belonging to a specific fashion model. Way to go, in my opinion.

71. Hat Rick - May 31, 2008

65, as I mentioned in the original thread, the Aptera was in fact deliberately driven in such manner as to be visible, and in motion, in the background during one of the most important shots from Starfleet Academy. I pesronally witnessed several takes involving a principal character in which it was driven along the part of Prairie Street that runs through CSUN (the portion on campus has a different name), the normally pedestrian-only walk south of the Oviatt building (the main “Starfleet Academy” building). See marked portion on the campus map on my blog. It is also parked in a different, and much more prominent, position during at least one shot.

72. Adam Cohen - May 31, 2008

I know this is a TOTAL nitpick, but I haven’t seen anyone else point this out:

At the time Kirk is in Starfleet Academy, the fleet has not yet adopted the arrowhead design as its symbol. That was done between the end of the original series and the start of The Motion Picture. Before then, different ships had their own symbols.

Again, I’m not complaining at all, but it stuck out at me when I saw these pictures.

73. Hat Rick - May 31, 2008

Correction to 71: It appeared to have been parked along the marked route in several different, and much more prominent, positions from its normal parking position next to the campus Planetarium, during the day of filming.

74. AJ - May 31, 2008

58: There is precedent for non-Enterprise personnel to be wearing the apparent Big-E insignia: The bar scene in “Court-Martial”. No reason. Just precedent.

75. Devon - May 31, 2008

#66 – It may be in the film. TM.com mentioned it being in the film a few days ago.. on top of that people were actually at the location shoot actually said that the vehicle was doing choreographed moves doing filming (going back and forth with each reshoot.)

Plus, in one shot they have the car being plugged in/charging up. The rest it’s out there with them. I don’t think know why it would just be “out there” in the shooting location for no reason.

76. Holger - May 31, 2008

If it weren’t for the mini-skirts and that cool sixties-look car or aircar or shuttle, I’d say this is the Imperial TIE Fighter Pilot Academy!!
I hope that we will see more TOSish uniforms in a later timeframe when Spock and Kirk are officers of the line.

77. CaptainRickover - May 31, 2008

The uniforms look incredible stuipid to me. I don’t like the jackets with the broad shoulder parts. Looks a bit like the romulan uniforms from TNG.

The caps ar stuipid too. The cadetts looks like if they are training to to sell some icecream in the future.

I don’t like the design of the boots. They seems a bit oversized for the girls.

I hope the uniforms from the Enterprise crew don’t mirror that design, but after seeing this pics I fear the worst.

Well, there are two things I like about that new pictures: The new alien cadett and that futuristic car. But there is the same problem like Nemesis: Still wheels in the 23rd century?

78. LostOnNCC1701 - May 31, 2008

I still demand to know whether any Redshirts die. I want ANSWERS!

79. Eric Cheung - May 31, 2008

Why wouldn’t there be wheels in the future? They’ve been around for thousands of years. As Nicholas Meyer said about smoking and the producers of TNG said about classical music, it’s unlikely they’ll be completely gone by then.

Besides, there are probably many devices and vehicles for which wheels are more energy efficient then haven’t some floating thing that requires an anti-grav generator in addition to probably the same amount of–if different– equipment that a regular car would have.

There are hover cars on Earth in the 23rd and 24th centuries according to Star Trek, I have to assume they have some kind of auxiliary mode in which wheels pop out. Hell maybe little holes pop out so they can Flintstones their way to work.

But anyway, any opportunity to slip in an alternative fueled vehicle in a movie made at a time when everything in our economy has prices rising at a rate that outpaces inflation, all due to the oil crisis, is probably a good thing–especially since they have that groovy Kirk car in Iowa (which itself may be a 23rd century replica made from either replicator or 3D printer technology or something in-between).

80. Paulaner - May 31, 2008

#79

Totally agreed. Maybe there are situations where a turning wheel is more efficient or practical than an energy consuming anti-grav device. I love when science fiction is not overfilled with futuristic gadgets.
Books, musical instruments, there are a lot of human objects that work just as they are and have not changed in centuries.

81. Thorny - May 31, 2008

40… “Oh, my gosh WHY did they have to go with the mini-skirts? Ughhh! Women’s uniforms with mini-skirts!

Gene Roddenberry only used mini-skirts in TOS for the sexual attraction factor. ”

You answered your own question.

82. HunterRex - May 31, 2008

Even though they may have hover cars and vehicles in the 23rd century, they will probably still use wheels.

That’s like someone from 1800s seeing into the 21st century and saying, “That doesn’t make sense. Why would people in 2008 still have pedals on bicycles when engines have been around for over a century?”

Or… “Why does a house built in 2008 have an oven in the kitchen if the microwave oven has been around for decades?”

83. Lord Garth, Formerly of Izar - May 31, 2008

“General Veers !!! You may begin your landing!!!!!!” And they apparently ended up at Starfleet academy HA HA HA But you know what my bunch of prescous little misfits I love the Nazi Star Wars Uniforms I like the obvious homage to the first Trilogy (NOT the Poop prequels thank god!!) Lot of Star Wars fans may appreciate it too. And the mini skirts with more of a combat boot look is actually in style today. AND I like the red academy tracksuits on the dudes because they look exactly like Six Million Dollar Man Doll costumes which is the coolest action figure ever

And The Cohenman Adam is right on above with his Delta catch

84. Tim G. - May 31, 2008

The last time I saw all-red uniforms was on the 1977 Cleveland Indians. Boog Powell looked like a big bottle of ketchup standing on first base.

I wouldn’t sweat this too much, tho. It’s the ship uniforms they need to get a good handle on.

85. sean - May 31, 2008

#57

I can only speak for myself and the people that went with me, but I think people didn’t like the new Indiana Jones because it was absolutely awful and nothing like any of the other films in the series. I’m looking forward to a Star Trek retelling, but if it’s as stupid as Kingdom of the Crystal Skull I’ll definitely be disappointed. Thankfully, JJ seems to still have his passion for filmaking and storytelling – something George Lucas and Steven Spielberg appear to have lost some time ago – so my hopes are high.

86. Thomas - May 31, 2008

It’s time like this that made me realize that there’s really two kinds of canon: the “official” canon, that Trekkies subscribe to in varying degrees, and the second type which Theory (post # 51) refers to as the “internal ideal version”;i.e. each Trek fan’s “personal canon”. Each one of us has his or her own idea of what Trek should or should not be, and that’s never going to change. Each one of us has certain elements of Trek that we prefer over others, and everyone’s got an idea of what makes the best Trek. The problem is, we’ve become too quick to dismiss things that don’t conform to the way we think Trek should be. The truth is, Trek is what the creators make it, and we should be glad that someone important in Hollywood has taken such an active interest in a property that just about everyone has written off. If you don’t like the way this movie’s being made, or rather, you think this movie is not conforming to your idea of what Trek should be, that’s not J.J. Abrams’s problem.

87. Ensign Ro- (Short for Roland) - May 31, 2008

Ummmmm, oh never mind…some of my thoughts have been repeatedly posted here already…and I am not into bashing those opinions I disagree with. All are welcome to post their views here…the joy of Anthony’s site.

Suffice it to say, I am still very much looking forward to Mr. Abrams interpretation of Star Trek. I truly believe it will have a lot to offer both existing fans and newbies.

From the very few visual tidbits we’ve seen, I’ve managed to form a minds-eye view of the movie….as an adult who remembers seeing TOS in it’s original run, and as someone who tries to keep up with the times in all aspects, I think this will be an enjoyable film for all. So far, I am intrigued by what I’ve seen and heard. Come on May 2009!

88. Ensign Ro- (Short for Roland) - May 31, 2008

R.E. #86

I whole-heartedly agree.

89. SChaos1701 - May 31, 2008

#86: +1

90. MikeG - May 31, 2008

Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions, so I’m surprised no one has yet criticized the people’s faces, hair-do’s, sunglasses, the way they stand, the way they appear to be walking, the way some are sitting, the color of the building, the grass, the trees, the sky….. Pick, pick, pick, pick… I wonder if there is anything else to nit-pick about….
I think everything is fine. There’s my opinion.

91. Redjac - May 31, 2008

Well, I liked the new Indiana Jones film…

I refuse to nitpik behind the scenes Trek pictures. I’ll just have to see the finished film.

92. DrNebuloso - May 31, 2008

It just the Cadet uniform. its not the bad.

93. TL - May 31, 2008

I prefer the original uniforms, look at how great they look in those new photos by Mojo. I hate this re-interperted look!

94. HunterRex - May 31, 2008

#86 – Interesting statement about about different types of canon. But it appears to me that people subscribe to three “types of canon”: The official canon (which is the only canon), Trekkies canon (common assumptions from the fan community that beleive to be official), and personal canon (differing agruments between the fan community, like “the novels are in my canon”). There is only one canon and J.J. Abrams is adding to that fabric. We now know that the cadet uniforms during the pre-TOS timeframe are red in offical canon. And the red may look a slightly different shade on camera than in the photographs.

95. red-shirted monkey - May 31, 2008

#21 – Perhaps the big crash is that of an old Class J starship with a ruptured baffle plate emitting delta rays.

96. The Underpants Monster - May 31, 2008

Looks just like I imagined it would – very ’60’s scifi! Nice!

97. NoonienSpock - May 31, 2008

I’m not disappointed by the uniforms; I’m just not _impressed_.
They look wrinkly, though…. Edit in some starch.

98. CaptainRickover - May 31, 2008

#79 and #81:

Okay, you convinced me. Wheels in the 23rd century? Well, why not? And that car looks really futuristic. But… in the 23rd century wouldn’t it not be a ancient vehicle, ’cause of it’s prestent day existence?

#80

No, I want see as many futuristic gadget-things as possible in a 150 mil- $ Star Trek-movie (That’s why I allways liked the second Back To The Future movie).

99. Billie Goat - May 31, 2008

As someone already pointed out, the car there is most likely incidental, and not related to the shooting. Maybe some producer’s or the 2nd unit director’s. It even has a modern day California license plate. The photographs feature it because it’s a curiosity, that’s all. You see a modern-era utility truck of some sort in there too, yet you don’t expect that to be in the movie, right? Get over it.

100. Cellojammer - May 31, 2008

#38

“It is kind of ironic that, since with ENT they were trying to be as TOS-like as possible in terms of story and cast, they got the same fate as TOS — cancelled early and only appreciated years later. I hated ENT when it was on the air, but got absolutely addicted through the DVDs last year.”

Me too! I’m glad to see that my experience with ENT isn’t unique. During its first run my reaction wasn’t so enthusiastic, but after renting it on DVD, I realized what a good show it is. Very entertaining and well-made. Maybe not 100% canon fodder, but it still works as Trek if you let it. It’s not what I expected from a TOS prequel, but I can certainly go with it!

Regarding the photos of the location shoot: Not enough info to formulate an opinion either way. The jury is still way out, but I’m betting that this movie will RAWWWKKKK!!

101. I Am Morg Not Eymorg - May 31, 2008

44. The Quickening: “Tacky 60s go-go boots; Tacky 60s mini-skirts; Tacky, overly loud reds; b What can the makers be thinking about?”

…maybe the original series?

102. Hat Rick - May 31, 2008

99, my confidence that the vehicle does appear in the background is quite high, unless it is digitally erased or that an important scene ends up on the cutting room floor.

As I said back in March (No. 250 in the original thread):

“1. The vehicle was driven along the east-west driveway south of the Quad to time exactly with the walk down the exterior staircase in that scene I referred to as involving Pine and Quinto (although now I’ve been told that Quinto wasn’t actually there; it must have been a look-alike). This was done in such a way so that as the camera swung clockwise from focusing on the pair of them walking down the stairs to follow the action as Pine stopped abruptly and in such a way as to face Pine, the vehicle’s passage would have been visible behind him. This scene was repeatedly a number of times and the vehicle was driven east to west correspondingly. The vehicle sometimes stopped short and returned to its starting place right next to the planetarium building when the director called for a return to places for whatever reason.

2. The vehicle was driven along the same path in both directions during various general takes.

It’s entirely possible that the vehicle was actually parked in a number of different places for the purposes indicated by the AICN account despite the fact that I didn’t see it. ”

What I did not say above is that driver of the vehicle was dressed in a Starfleet Academy gray uniform. Further, there were adhesive appliques that appeared intended to disguise certain decals on the vehicle which seem to represent minor but evident efforts to dress the vehicle for filming, as previously noted. This would be inconsistent with the idea that the vehicle belonged to a member of the production team.

103. Captain Robert April - May 31, 2008

The miniskirt uniforms were Grace Lee Whitney’s idea, not Roddenberry’s.

She wanted to show off her legs.

104. Gd846c3 - May 31, 2008

I absolutely positively 100% know for a fact that these uniforms are only academy uniforms and are not the starship uniforms

105. Devon - May 31, 2008

#98. “But… in the 23rd century wouldn’t it not be a ancient vehicle, ’cause of it’s prestent day existence?”

That might be why it’s in there. It may be a history piece at the academy. It could also be digitally altered. Or it could appear just as it is. One never knows but you can’t take or assume things at face value especially when you don’t know the context.

106. Seamus - May 31, 2008

In Abrams I trust.

107. M-5 - May 31, 2008

Kirk, James T. – May 30, 2008
Its Star Trek in the Star Wars Universe – perhaps this is how time travel is used in the film. As long as Jar Jar Binks isn’t in this prequel. :P

Hey, wouldn’t it be fun, hilarious, and crowd-pleasing to see Jar Jar Binks go off like he always did in the Star Wars films and have Spock put him out with a Vulcan nerve pinch?

As far as the Starfleet Academy uniforms, it would’ve been interesting if instead of all red, the uniforms could’ve been a combination of colors, similar to the blue and gold used in the Star Trek logo. I never understood why the cadets always wear red.

108. Anthony Pascale - May 31, 2008

in case it isn’t clear, the pictures are Academy uniforms only. This film has a big budget with lots of wardrobe. It isn’t like past Trek films where everyone wears the same thing through most of the movie. The Uniforms on the Enterprise are different than these.

109. Norm - May 31, 2008

I’m a little worried. I like to see designs that we’ve never see before. You could always look at an TOS & tell it was totally futuristic. I hate when they try to relate everything to match something we currently use. Then in 5 years its outdated. Just look at the video monitors in ST : Enterprise now.

110. Redjac - May 31, 2008

#109.

If you make it weird and quit trying to extrapolate the technology from now until then, then it won’t get outdated.

That’s one thing I remember reading about the proposed technology on the bridge of the PHASE II (not the Cawley version; the one proposed for the Paramount Network back in 77-78) Enterprise — they were going to have a holographic weapons targeting system.

Now that would have been cool, because it all would have been kind of three dimensional.

If you look at the production art of the PHASE II bridge, you’ll see this dome mounted on the wall — that was it. It was even built into the set prior to production beginning on TMP.

I used to have an old issue of Fantastic Films magazine that shows it under construction on the set.

111. Norm - May 31, 2008

A Note on the car. Has anyone ever thought that maybe some people like to drive classic cars? Maybe they land then drive to a parking spot or need wheels when moving very short distances.

112. lostrod - May 31, 2008

Nothing new in this article, but it was nice to see some new hi-rez pics. However, I noticed the article itself took the same old ‘bash Shatner’ approach for a story that had nothing to do with Mr. Shatner.

113. mayday - May 31, 2008

#108
Anthony, what do you know??!!! :)

mayday

114. Dennis Bailey - May 31, 2008

No production decisions or money were spent on TOS because a recurring player wanted “to show off her legs.” That’s one of those good stories that the folks associated with the show tell fans because they’re entertaining.

115. Tango - May 31, 2008

“Doc–you mean to tell me that you built a time machine?!!–out of an Aptera?!!”

“Well if your going to build one you might as well do it in style.”

116. cagsean - May 31, 2008

The red uniform style remind me of the Grey ones they wore at the academy in Starship Troopers, especially the hats..

117. David C. Roberson, Maladjusted Productions - June 1, 2008

Okay, here’s my take on the uniforms and the Enterprise Insignia already belonging to Starfleet:

Based on everything we know or think we know about this film, it involves Romulans (or Rihannsu for Duaneists–you know who you are;) going back in time to various points in the time-line and attempting the assassination of James Kirk.

Now, as we all know, one cannot step into the past without making changes. The mere fact that something was there when it originally was not means that all sorts of things could change. So it is that there is a possibility that for some reason, Star Fleet’s insignia is the Enterprise insignia a bit early. Perhaps Captain Pike ends up battling the Romulans from the 24th century at some point, and his heroic deeds are rewarded with the Fleet making his ship’s insignia the official Fleet insignia?

Also, there’s the whole idea that one cannot travel back into one’s own timeline, but can enter the past of an alternate reality. Or the idea that by entering the past of your timeline, it automatically becomes an alternate timeline, thereby creating a pocket universe where things cannot justly continue on in their previous fashion. And I’m pretty sure I remember hearing something about seeing alternate realities in this film.

Of course, there’s the tried-and-true “erase the original events and change the future” that Back to the Future utilized so well so as to avoid the brain-imploding alternate timeline explanation. I hope this one isn’t used in the new film, honestly. I’m smart enough to understand alternate realities, and I’d rather not have my canon tampered with anymore than it already has been.

We’re STAR TREK FANS! WE SURVIVED B&B! We WILL SURVIVE THIS AS WELL!

118. Holger - June 1, 2008

Cars: We don’t know if it’s really a car. The wheels may get CGI’d away, or they may be landing gear of an air car.
Mini Skirts: OK, we all know what the picture of women in sixties TV was and we know why they used the miniskirts in TOS. But despite all that, I think that the usual arguments about the TOS miniskirts being sexist have become utterly outdated nowadays, because I know a lot of strong, smart, independent women with academic degrees and academic careers, or well paid business careers, who are wearing mini skirts – simply because they like it!

119. King Anthony - June 1, 2008

This is priceless.

I can’t wait until May 2009.

120. US Taxpayer Dude - June 1, 2008

Dudes, relax over the uniforms! At any given moment, there must be six or seven completely different “official” uniforms in each branch of the Service. Fatigues, BDUs, daily business dress, formal wear, high-formal wear, variants, winter/summer (i.e., dark or light), stateside/overseas/shipboard, functional.

And the old ones are always permitted at CO’s discretion. Note today we see BDUs in dessert digital camo along side woodland camo and even woodland green.

There is no such thing as “THE” uniform – only the uniform of the day.

121. US Taxpayer Dude - June 1, 2008

On miniskirts and leather boots:

I am shocked. Shocked! that physically perfect, supersmart, highly motivated, hormonally overdosed, extraoverachieving appointees to the world’s most rigourous and prestigeous service academy might be … interested … in … the opposite sex.

Or that the female members of the opposite sex might even want to attract the attention of a male member of the opposite sex with her finely toned, shapely legs yet unburdended by life’s woes and motherhood’s worries.

HORRIBLE! HORRIBLE!!!

Down with short skirts and go-go boots! Down with chest emphasizing men’s suits! Down with it all and up with sexlessness!!! Hurrah for the Junior Anti Sex League!

:-)

122. SChaos1701 - June 1, 2008

#117 It’s probably just a retcon.

123. Laserlover2254 - June 2, 2008

#26:

They have TNG style shoulder stripes and rank pins.

To quote a talented actor: “Shyeah right!”

124. Laserlover2254 - June 2, 2008

#94:

There is only one canon…

The Business Canon.

Not any of the ones you describe, since Paramount has “Canon” and “Official Continuity.”

125. Sebi - June 2, 2008

Man this is silly..

At first, everyone said: “I hope they have mini-skirts”.

Now that we know we will get them: “I hate those mini-skirts, this is soooooo 60s.”

Damn, we Trekkers really don’t know what we want.
What do I want? – Mini-skirts ROCK!

126. Jason - June 2, 2008

Folks here will never be happy, with black slacks those uniforms could be the ST2-6 uniforms from the distance those shots were taken at.
“Freaky aliens”? Look at some earlier TNG eps and you see strange critters – how many variations of human with forehead ridges do you want? If the look is updated who cares? The themes of the movie must hold true – folks who obsess over make believe “factual elements” really need to get a life.

127. Kirk's Toupee - June 2, 2008

Nice miniskirts but no black pantyhose, just 21st century bare legs :-(

128. ME - June 2, 2008

Anyone else a little disturbed Enterprise insignia is on all the academy flags? That wasnt adopted for starfleet until after his 5 year mission.

129. Jovan - June 2, 2008

Yeah, I’m worried about that too.

By the way, the link doesn’t work…

130. Novas imagens dos cenários de Jornada « Startrekbr’s Weblog - June 2, 2008

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131. Robert Simmons A.K.A. Vice Rear Admiral Nerd ( TOS Trek Purist / SFB Gamer ) - June 2, 2008

ehhh……

132. Denis - June 5, 2008

Just a note regarding the “futuristic” vehicle we saw in the previous group of pictures of this shoot: there was a cnn video on this vehicle today (5 june 08) regarding its excellent mileage. The designer’s original was gas-powered at 230 mpg. The one in the shoot picture, which is the one in the cnn vid, is electric.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2008/06/05/washburn.230.mpg.car.kfmb

The license plates are identical.

133. Larry Dykes - June 11, 2008

Link still does not work. Are they posted elsewhere?

134. Fotos do Set do novo Star Trek | NewsErrado - September 22, 2008

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135. Brad - December 19, 2008

Link doesnt’ work for me.

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