All Access Star Trek Gets A ‘Picard’ Update And Looks Back At ‘Discovery’ Season 3

All Access Star Trek podcast episode 24 - TrekMovie

[Season 3 review starts at 15:48]

Tony and Laurie talk about Patrick Stewart and Sonequa Martin-Green at the Critics Choice Awards and cover the latest news on the upcoming seasons of both Star Trek: Picard and Star Trek: Discovery. They review Discovery season 3 as a whole—what they liked, what they didn’t, and what they hope to see next season—and wrap up the podcast with a Data deepfake and some very nerdy donuts.

Links to topics discussed in the pod

Patrick Stewart Wins Best Actor At Critics Choice Super Awards For ‘Star Trek: Picard’

Watch the Critics Choice Super Awards on the CW 

Patrick Stewart Talks ‘Star Trek: Picard’ Season 2 Prep, Teases Change That Will Have “Quite An Impact”

Book Review: ‘Star Trek: Picard – The Dark Veil’ Delivers An Action-Mystery With Riker And Troi

‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Producers And Stars On What’s Next For Captain Burnham And Season Four

Listen: Saru And Michael’s Final ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Season 3 Logs Hint At What’s To Come In Season 4

Other mentions:

Captain Janeway talks about the “different time” of Captain Sulu, Captain Kirk, and Dr. McCoy

An Ursula K. Le Guin Short Story Inspired The Big Mystery For ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Season 3

BioTrekkie and The Admiral with Mohamed Noor & Jayne Brook: Episode 1 – Analyzing Alien Life: Biology in Star Trek Discovery Season 3 Episode 1

Trekbits: 

Tony: Data Gets A Deepfake Upgrade In ‘Star Trek: Picard’

Laurie: Dave Rothstein’s Sci-Fi Minis (from Neil Shurley’s Star Trekking newsletter)

Buy your own talking Captain Picard action figure

Jean-Luc Picard at the Rodin Museum

Jean-Luc Picard action figure at the Rodin Museum in the ’90s

Let us know what you think of the episode in the comments, and post your suggestions for topics we should cover.


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Thanks again Laurie and Tony. Nice to hear your thoughts on the season overall. I enjoyed S3 and admire that they had the courage to take some risks and do something different with Star Trek. In particular, the move to the 32C, which from a production and design standpoint must have caused a lot of angst and much head scratching. However, in terms of trying to convey the look of a distant future and still keep it relatable to what has come before, I felt that they pulled it off and much credit to all those involved. Looking forward to S4.

I agree that there was some beautiful design work and visual effects! I particularly liked when they found the Federation and Starfleet for the first time. And who could forget the bird clock that opened the season? The tranceworms looked great as well!

Season 3 is highly enjoyable! I arrived late to the Discovery party. Actually I’d forgotten about it right after the first episode when they announced it’d only be on the streaming platform. If not for COVID and a delayed start the NWSL season it would probably still be a distant memory. While waiting for the soccer season to start, I binged seasons 1 and 2 then got super excited for season 3. Waiting around for season 3 and looking for answers about this new canon situation is how I found this site and your podcast. Both of which are informative and entertaining.

The number of people who come on here to comment on how much they dislike this show is fascinating to me. It seems pretty unreasonable to expect Discovery to be so much like previous shows. There are certainly themes which connect all of Star Trek but this iteration has far fewer episodes to work with and today’s TV production is very different than what they put out in the TOS or even Voyager periods. You have to adjust your expectations or be ready for continuous disappointment.

I’d enjoy a pod where you guys compare your 5-10 favorite episodes across all the shows. Or a deep dive into other material that’s inspired Star Trek episodes like the short story that inspired the season 3’s mystery.

Glad you’re enjoying the podcast! I am also baffled by the rush of people on our site and our social media accounts who just want to make sure everyone knows how much they hate Disco no matter what the topic of the post might be—very different from talking about the show’s flaws when that’s the topic at hand. Thanks for the suggestions, too! I don’t know how people can pick favorite episodes from a seven-season run, though. Too many to choose from! And so much depends on my mood at the time.

Hey,

I have enjoyed the podcasts ever since I started listening since Ep1 of Lower Decks.

I really enjoyed S3 and I agree with most of your analysis of the show, especially about Emperor Georgiou and Osyra.

I want to see the new worlds of the 32nd century. I want them to make contact with new species and I want to know, being a voyager fan, if the federation made contact with delta quadrant species and whether or not starfleet uses transwarp conduits to explore other parts of the galaxy. What other modes of transportation or communication has starfleet tried or used? They hinted in S3 the use of other experimental drives. And let’s see these new starfleet ships in action. Does the Enterprise X exist? I believe Tony made a joke about it in the podcasts.

Overall, enjoyed S3 and the podcasts. Keep up the good work!

Glad you’re enjoying the podcast! Great question about the Delta Quadrant; I was wondering that too. Did the Phage get cured? Are Talaxians around? Are there still Hirogens? What was the long-term effect on that area of Voyager’s travels? What’s up with Species 8472? I’m curious about these things but I also want Discovery to find its own aliens and stories and create new ones. It’s tough to balance, I’m sure.

Hey, thank you for a very entertaining and interesting discussion about Disco S03. What I would add to the hopes for S04 is for Culber to be central to some stories in the way McCoy would be. For a main character on Disco I just don’t think he gets enough to do. I did see S03 start to make him more integral to stories but it still felt a little like he was simply added to the landing party. I liked him a lot in the Giorgiou and finale arcs and hoping for more in that vein.

I agree with that! I’d like to see him do more doctoring and be as integral to the storylines as McCoy, Crusher, Bashir, The Doctor, Phlox, etc.